WEBVTT - Legacy Panel - 1985 Super Bowl 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:25.560 Yeah, right right, musical chairs, who's playing the music? Welcome 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:30.640 one and all is our last legacy of the of 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.200 the day. Well we all must agree, it's been quite 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.920 a riot so far up until right now. Wow, and 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.360 now some of the best storytellers of all time on 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.720 stage right here and now Otis can't wait. Tom, This 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.879 is your guy, These are your guys. You take the lead, 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:56.080 my friend, greatest team in NFL history. I thought, I 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.760 thought you said me take over and you started talking 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.240 again in the mic. You know, I think when we 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.720 got to go to the elder statesman here of this group, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.039 we got Emery moorehead. I always say Emory mooreheads, a 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.240 wide receiver that ate himself into a tight end in 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.120 a longer career. It's great to see you all. This 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.240 place that's packed and we love it. We love you guys, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.960 unreal right big, Oh, what's your record? What's your feeling 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.520 of the weekend? The support of the Bears, fans, your bearer, career, 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.360 every little bit of everything. It is always a pleasure 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.119 to see the bad fans come out. I mean coming 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:38.200 down off the Kennedy and seeing all the fans, but 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.440 most of all to sit here and see these guys. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.600 I love the point of my life when I get 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.000 to be around him. I mean, I have so many 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.360 so much love for him and so many great stories, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.840 and it's just honor a pleasure to be here. You know, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.160 we just sat up here and Dan Hampton was talking 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.120 about how much you enjoyed being a teammate at William Perry, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.960 a guy that can am in and lit up our 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.240 locker room every day. Fridgie got an opportunity to come 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.720 back to Chicago. About some of the fun you had 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.040 with the Bears, both as a defensive tackle and a 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.600 running back of your time, that had to be a 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.360 lot of fun for you to be able to join 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:24.720 the Bears at such an important time. I was just saying, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.239 just some of the enjoyment you've had here in Chicago, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.919 some of the fun from being a defensive tackle all 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.760 the way to one of the first big man running backs. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.400 Because last year Matt Naggie had a play where he 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.800 gave a Keen Hicks the ball for a touchdown and 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.680 he called at the freezer and salute to the bridge 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.560 William Perry. You know, it was great, It was great 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.519 and everything, and uh, you know, I couldn't say any 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.520 you know, saying him everything was everything was you know, wonderful, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.680 and I enjoyed it and was fun, you knowing it 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:05.480 doing him for the people and enjoying myself. Willie the 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.360 instigator of the Super Bowl shuffle. Yes, kind of a 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.680 gutsy move to do it on the plane after we 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.040 lost our first game that season. Did you ever think 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.240 about taking a step back and maybe giving that lost 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.200 a little bit of time to warm up or were 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.840 you full speed ready to go? No. I was pretty confident. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.560 You know, I think the loss for us, so to 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.560 put us in perspective, I think we knew we were good, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:32.760 but we knew if we didn't play together as a 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.680 team that we wouldn't win. So that day was pretty 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.200 trying because everything was set up to do the video, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.920 and I had the dubious tasks and trying to commits 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.040 these guys after we had lost in lamorad to come 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.280 the next day and shoot the video. So I talked 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.960 to Mike Singletary and Mike said, Okay, we've already committed. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.880 Let's do it as a team. Let's let's let this 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.160 be a team building for us. So we decided to 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.920 get together as a team at that video and make 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.120 sure that we committed to each other that we're going 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.200 to go out and play our best. And that's what happened. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:10.560 In the course of rest is history. Richard, when you 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.440 look back at it all, not surprised where you are, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.960 but are you impressed with everything you've been able to 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.640 accomplish and achieve Since you weren't the highest draft choice, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.240 you're able to do what Buddy Ryan wanted to do. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.279 You wanted to get out of you. You know, you 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.520 had to play the run, you had to rush the passer, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.120 and then you sit here today as a Hall of Famer. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.320 I think we're all the fans are equally as impressed 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:40.200 as we are. Well, you know, on the road to 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.920 the pro standards coming out of Tennessee State, most people, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.920 you know, guys that get drafted, they're worried about when 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.840 they getting drafted what they're doing. You know. The point 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.000 of it is that when you get into the league 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.000 and you get drafted, you're getting more money than what 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.719 you had when you walked in the door. So there's 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.359 no reason to be upset about where you be in placed. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.839 You're getting the opportunity, you're getting a platform to show 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.960 what you're worth and show what you could do. And 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.040 you know, after coming to Chicago Bears and you know, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.560 meeting and seeing some of the guys, they didn't know anything. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.719 They didn't know much about me. I didn't know much 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.640 about them, but we seemed to find ourselves and and 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.039 I didn't understand why I wasn't playing. But you know, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.640 Buddy had a problem and I had a problem with 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.320 not taking the trap on. Well, so when we move 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.160 a lot, which is I really appreciate it. So when 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.000 Fridge is over the center, I got to, you know, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.760 spill to play with my right shoulder, so but when 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.680 he's over the guard, I can squeeze it. So I 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.800 had a minute trying to get that together and found 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.479 out I got that together. Then you know, I was 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.640 in the starting lineup, so you know, but I could understand. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.600 I did not understand, but I did later and eventually. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.200 You know, as a kid, you know, you dream to 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.160 do some things in every dream that I imagine as 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.800 a kid to play football in the National Football League. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.039 Everything that has happened except the Hall of Fame, which 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.600 I didn't know anything about the Hall of Fame during 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.760 that time, but I seen myself do what what was 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.440 done in my career. You know, if you can dream it, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.480 that means God is blessing you. You have to once 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.360 you pray about it, you have to be about it. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.400 And with the players that I had in my around me, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.240 you know, it was all about the opportunity. You know, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.880 I don't miss the game. I missed the guys that 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:43.479 I played with, like all of us, Jay, you kind 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.560 of had a unique journey here. You're an undrafted free 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.200 agent out of Iowa. You became a seven time Pro Bowler, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.360 but you were raised in the National Football League. Your uncle, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.239 Wally played sixteen years in the NFL. Your dad played football. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.680 Your younger brother Joel, played ten or eleven years with 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:05.280 the New Orleans Saints. Was it Bill McGrain that kind 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.160 of got you attached to the Bears and gave you 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:13.120 your opportunity? Yes, it was really um. It was you know, 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.480 the Bears organization, and Jim Finks was with Chicago at 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.200 the time, the general manager. He used to be with 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.400 the Minnesota Vikings, and as you said, my uncle played 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:26.480 with the Vikings, and when Finks knew Wally Hilgenberg, my 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.840 uncle played up there, and as you said, I met 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.480 Buddy Ryan as when I was a sophomore in high school, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.800 as he was a Wally's position coach and going up 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.160 to the Minnesota practices and camps. So I knew buddy then, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.160 and I actually I went to Super Bowl nine and 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.760 I remember my uncle Wally was a roommate of Alan Page, 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:50.920 and I went up to the room to talk to 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.400 Wally and he wasn't there, but I sat in the 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.560 room and Allan talked to me for like twenty minutes 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.160 at my sophomore in high school about you know, the 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.120 sports I was into, and he was just really he 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.840 took a twenty minutes of his time to really spend 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.240 time with me. And then my rookie year, you know, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.880 being undrafted coming into Chicago and trying to make a 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.880 name for myself there, I am practicing against Alan Page 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.760 every day for that first season and he really worked 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.600 with me that that that year. So, um, you know, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.480 I didn't come into the NFL the way I thought 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.720 I thought I was going to arrive, But um, I 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.160 was so lucky. You know, I get Jim Finks and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.400 Bill McGrain, you know, Hall of Fame Jim Finks. I 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:38.600 come to the Chicago Bears, there I'm coached by Mike Dick, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.120 who's a Hall of Fame. Offer Toive Wine coached Hall 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:45.600 of Fame Dick stanfill I practiced against you know, Dan Hampton, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.280 Hall of Fame, Mike Singletary, Hall of Fame, Steve Vic 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.560 Michael should be in the Hall of Fame. It's just 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.920 it goes on and on and then and then especially 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.440 and then when Fridge came to the Chicago Bears, he 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.880 really changed the the what it meant to go out 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.080 there and practice that day because his arrival. Because I 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.600 knew when they drafted Fridge and I saw his highlights 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.080 in college, and what I was gonna have to go 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.600 through that training camp. I mean, I got myself ready 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.600 in eighty five to play not the the opponents, because 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.840 I knew he was Fridge was coming to Chicago, and boy, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.240 I was happy that the Fridge was the Chicago Bears 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.400 and I didn't have to play him on any other team. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.439 But you know, we all hear from the defensive players 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.040 how difficult it was for them to earn the respect 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.520 of Buddy Ryan. So you meet Buddy Ryan as a kid, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.360 how did he treat you when he came to Chicago. Oh? 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.280 It was like the like yesterday. I remember the very 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.720 first day of practice out in the field that we 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.040 had cows and we broke down to cows, and being 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.080 the rookie free agent I had, I couldn't even go 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.320 with the defense the first period of practice. I couldn't 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.920 go with the offense. I had to go with the 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.200 defense and sit there and snap the ball for you 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.440 guys coming off the ball and and I go running 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.880 up to the defense. He drill and they're buddy standing there. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.200 He looks at me and he goes, where's the ball? 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.280 Rook And I go, I go, what are you talking about? 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.440 He goes, Hey, every good center has a football in 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.320 his hand. He goes, you never know when the game's 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.160 gonna break out. And right there that day, from that day, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.720 for my whole career, I'd never stepped on the football 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.760 field out of football in my hand. I always had 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:22.720 a football in my hand. Jay, you're also I've talked 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:27.679 about how quick William was off the ball. H That's 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.760 something that you know, Tom and I both really studied 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.160 a lot of game tape. I first learned that from 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.640 Noah Jackson. By rookie year in the NFL, we used 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.079 to have the film projector, and the rookies had to 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.280 carry the projector on the flights and travel and to 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.280 carry it and bring it to the meetings and set 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.640 it up. And and Noah always liked watching tape before 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.920 he went to bed at night. So I'd go up 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.480 there to get the projector and I sit down and 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.560 watch tape with him. And Noah really taught me what 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.360 he was looking at. He would get up there and 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.720 start diagram. You know, you gotta be like a boxer. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.240 You gotta snap, and you gotta be able to hit 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.600 the guy and not give him all your body weights. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.520 So he abbyvis. I learned a lot from Noah, you know, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.680 with that that projector there, and I mean I just 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.680 think a guy like that, that that should be be 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.720 recognized an awful, awful lot. Jim Finks did a wonderful 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.360 job the eighty three draft. I can't imagine there's anyone 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.320 better in NFL history. I mean, look what it gave you, guys. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.000 Okay Otis was already here, Emory you were here, Walter 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.000 was here, McMahon was here, hamp was here. But then 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.880 you bring in that eighty three class with Jimbo and 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.640 Willie and Tom and Richard as a later round pick. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:42.319 It's a great class sports sports. They keep coming. How 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:48.160 much how much respect for Jim Finks, Well, I would 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.760 say it's a lot of a lot of respect for 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:56.040 him because I would say he probably orchestrated along with 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.040 the scouting staff, you know, and put into pieces to 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.960 the puzzles together. I mean, to understand what you need 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.880 and to go out there and get what you need. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.360 He was, no doubt about an important part of that. Yeah, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.240 my experience with Jim Finks was a little different. I 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.080 came to the Bears. Denver had cut me. The Bears 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.520 picked me up, and I went through the preseason and 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.520 then the very last cut, Noah Jackson was holding out 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.160 and they signed Noah and they cutting me at the 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.240 game of the last before the game and anyway, I 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.520 finished that year. Then the next year they had hired 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.599 they fired Near Armstrong and they hired Mike Dickam, and 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.320 they brought Mike in and they moved me to tie 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.839 end and so I had a great year. At the 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.080 first I was playing at two hundred and fifteen pounds 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.679 that tied end. So it was easily getting away from 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.680 all the linebackers in the safeties and with play action. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.800 To Walter, it was just unbelievably easy. But anyway, after 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.240 the season, in fact that Virginia might remember this, they 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.800 said they were going to signed me to a new contract, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.840 and Ed said, we're gonna sign you to a new 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.800 contract and me for having a great year. So I 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.040 come in, I signed the contract and Jim Finxes also 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.400 there and he goes Emory. He says, come back here, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.800 I'm want to talk to you. And he says Emory. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.400 He says he lived in with Necca and he had 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.920 a maid by name mister mister Robinson that went to 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.640 the same church I did in Evanston, and he said, Emory. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.000 He said, miss Robinson been telling me for five years 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.559 to sign you. And he says, now we finally go 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.800 sign you to a nice contract. So I got through 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.920 the Bears through missus Robinson, testing him every year, signed him, 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.640 resigned him, resigning me. And that's how I ended up 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.480 getting the nice contract out of the Bear. All Rhodes 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.839 lead to the NFL, Emory, right, All rhodes lead to 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:55.640 the NFL. William, When it was all going on your 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.800 rookie year, you just loved playing. Did you realize what 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:06.280 was going on becoming a national and international sensation because 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.920 of your popularity. Did you recognize it or are you 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:20.200 just all about ball? Oh? Well, when you know, when 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.000 I came in, and when I came in, Bells drafted 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.480 me and uh, I'm gonna playing I'm playing defensive defensive tackle. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.800 And he never think I was gonna be a fullback, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.280 you know, lanning up in the backfield. And he he 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.120 surprised me calls, uh called when San Francisco did it 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.640 against against them. Then he he got me and stuck 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.480 me in the backfield so he can rub it in 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.920 his rubbed in his face and everything. So you know, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.680 it was it was great and I you know, I 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.120 loved it and it was fun. Yeah, I'll tell you 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:57.720 another story about fredge. Uh that year we were after 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.280 the Super Bowl, uh, Fisher, Steve Fuller and I go 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.680 on a ski trip with a bunch of fans over 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.160 to Switzerland. And so we go over there and of 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.400 course we're the big guys and everybody's like, who are 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.280 these guys? Who are these guys? And I say, no, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.520 I played football, and I said Chicago Bears. They still 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.760 didn't know, and I said, Walter Payton and I didn't know, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:25.680 and I said, the Fridge there, we know the bear. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.960 You know, it's kind of reason, you know, when you 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.600 this event. So there's there's people here from all fifty 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.760 states and seven different countries. And when you have a 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.560 personality like Fridge and Walter Payton, these guys, that's why 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:44.440 the popularity outreaches just the chicagol and the Illinois area, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.560 and it is a worldwide phenomenon. I actually when I 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.880 first saw Fridge, it was I was watching TV and 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.840 he had this short shirt on when didn't have much 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.600 of a gut, you know, but I watched how he was, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.520 you know, working the field from sideline the sideline, and 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.280 I said, this guy could move. And finally then he's 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.960 end up in Chicago and you know he's running the 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.480 ball for a while. But once he got in starting lineup, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.280 you know, it was tough to block him. One on one. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.520 I said, what a great guy is right beside me. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.280 I'm beside him. I said, So what we're gonna do. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.600 We're gonna dictate on this side. We're gonna tell people 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.520 what they can do and what they can't do. Right, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.120 So William I tell Williams and William I'm not gonna 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.000 stick my nose in your business, and you don't stick 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.760 your nose in my business. But what I need you 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.560 to do, and when the ball come my way, run 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.880 to the numbers. If the ball go passing, I'm gonna 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.600 stop running. I got it right. And if the ball 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.440 goes inside, I'm not gonna rush in there because I 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.520 got him in there, I got Steve in there, I 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.240 got singing to all these different people. So you know, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.160 I was taught a lot about playing football in a 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.280 way of take two things away and play the other. See, 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.840 now you're dictating about what's gonna take place. So we 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.480 knew nobody's gonna run the ball on our side. We 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.440 knew he was gonna make the ball goes other way. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.760 And it was all about when they try to trick 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.240 you and reverse him back. But when you can play 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.200 with people like that, that that you know, working hand 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:23.119 in hand and really controlling the whole game, where I 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.960 can have fun because I know what you can do 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.880 and I know what you can't do. Now you may 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.280 try it, but you know, I figured, if you give 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.240 me the ball enough, we're gonna get a turn over. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.040 We're gonna do some things. But I appreciate this man 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.480 so much playing beside him, and that's why, you know, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.960 a guy like Otis Wilson also should be in the 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.560 Hall of Fame. Also Wilber Marshall. We played. I played 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:50.200 with a lot of guys and Jimbo Coverer, you know, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.320 and Jay Higinbury. We had so many great ball players 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.760 and it was just so much fun. We didn't realize 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.359 how much fun that we was having, but you know, 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.680 that's you missed the guys that you played with. And 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.720 then to really to add on to that, it was 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.800 a great thing. And knowing Buddy Ryan's system, you know, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.200 Buddy had an attack system, and like Richard was saying, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.760 we knew it. We took care of a certain area 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.480 to see, I'm on the all the way on the 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.400 other side with Dan Hampton, We're sending them your way 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.080 exactly right, and I would try to send them his way, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.240 and I knew, I said, nothing's gonna come out from 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.439 from the numbers to the sideline. I got that covered. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.240 I'm pushing everything back in and then Hampton's over there, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:45.080 you know, Fridge in the middle and him and seeing 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.840 where you're gonna go, there's nowhere to go. You know. 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.800 So it was just so much we would I would 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.120 always say, and we would always say, I'm not gonna 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.600 let Hampton down. Handon said, I'm not gonna let Ridge down. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.960 We knew what Richard's gonna do. See that. We called 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.600 Richard the colonel, and the colonel men like Kentucky fried 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.680 Chicken at one time they only sold chicken. We knew 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.520 what he was gonna donna get up, so we said 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.399 we don't let him handle that. We're gonna get up. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.000 Deal without a doubt exactly stay. You know what what 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.040 what What we really appreciate about Buddy, and to me 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.600 is as a player, like you know, people talk about 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.320 Peyton Manning making calls on the line of scrimmage, how 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.920 smart and great he is. Well, hell, those other guys 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.560 gotta be smart too, right, because if they don't know 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.480 what's going on, you ain't nothing going on. So in defense, 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.399 we did the same thing. You know, I look at Buddy, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.520 he pat his hand. I know that's automatic front control, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.960 you know. So we didn't never get a call until 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.000 third down, but the first and second down we played 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.359 what we see. If you get an eye formation, we 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.640 did something you're getting red whatever formation So the point 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.400 of it is what I appreciate. He gave us the game. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.080 And if some coaches don't want to give the game. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.680 Some coaches like they get off on what they do. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.359 But if you don't have players, you're just getting off yourself. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.879 You're not getting anywhere. So the point of you have 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.520 to make the players be responsible for their action. If 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.360 you make them be responsible, they're gonna play harder, they're 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.800 gonna do more, you know. But if you're just making 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.480 a call, make a call, I just say, hey, coaching, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.359 I got two on them and just sending one. Just 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.360 try to get us one on one, not sending someone free. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.399 Because now we're getting everybody going. And so it's a 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.800 math game football. Is you got five linens, that's gonna 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.640 have to block four, or you're gonna have six, gonna 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.720 have to block four as soon or later, it's gonna 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.920 work out in your way, you know, Amory will and 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.639 this is funny, though I can say it's funny, Oh 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.040 this is funny. This is indicative of our team. So 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.919 so how many of you guys may not know our 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.679 offense was ranked number two in the league that year, right, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.640 but we had such an amazing defense with ranked number 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.800 one in the country, and I mean the best defense, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.280 but the offense we would just sit back and do 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.200 our thing and we give him the ball. But we 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.520 were right number two in the entire league. But people 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.080 don't know that because we had such a great defense. Well, 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.800 if they were fortunate, they always got to play fresh 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:19.080 because we held out of the ball. Play twenty minutes. Mcmah. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.960 You know, Richard, you only had to play twenty minutes 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.200 a game because we controlled the ball. Though you take 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.920 the special teams out of it. The play sixteen minutes again, 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.960 I mean, the offense led the NFL A first downs, 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.520 The offense led the NFL and scoring that year. I 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.800 mean there's a ton of things rushing the ball control 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.680 when you didn't do anything, we come off and say 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.240 we controlled the ball, We led the NFL and first downs. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.960 I mean. See. The only problem is is that you know, 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.800 when you get tired as an offensive player, you can't 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.040 sit there on the sideline and cheer for the other 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.639 team's offense because you know you want to rest on 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.760 the That's why you defense can verbally be on the 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.800 offense because you guys are getting tired and you're getting 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.720 mad at us because we're going three and out. We 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.120 can't get mad at you guys were going three. Well, 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.639 it was going three and out. We would tell him, 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.800 you know the funny thing that he didn't mention. They 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.399 always got the ball in the thirty five yard line. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.480 The team never came past the fifty yards and we 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.639