1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast, but this one is 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: good good, all right. Here we go there growing in Joe. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: We're saying it's a cash toto. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: go to winning. O. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 3: God, that's incredible, big banks banks. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: I like to make money. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: All right. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: This is the ultimate kaba you want to pus. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: And we are under way. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to another Sunday night episode of the 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: Action Network podcast. Merry Christmas, y'all. It is December twenty sixth, 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: twenty seventh. When you are listening. I'm your host, Brandon 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: Anderson here with Raheem Palmer, wrapping up a Christmas weekend 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: of NFL Action Week sixteen. We are near the end, 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: and thank god. This is a mess right now with 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: all these COVID teams and guys missing games for injuries 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: and everything else. Weird weekend of games, but you know, 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: it's football, It's the holidays. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: It can't complain. Rahim, how is it? Christmas? 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: It was good. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm happy Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanza. We got it 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: all inclusive. I got some gifts that I really like. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: I made a little money bet NBA made a little 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: money bet NFL. We'll talk about that here on the podcast, 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: so let's just get into it. 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. I enjoyed the games. I gotta say though. 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: I'm home in North Dakota with my family, so my 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: setup usually is a Red Zone on the main screen 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: and then I got a couple other games on the side, 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: whichever the good one is. So we got DirecTV here, 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 4: so I'm on the DirecTV Red Zone Whereheim. I know 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: you're not really a Red Zone watcher usually, but Red 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: Zone on DirecTV is horrendous. The dude on there, Andrew Siciliano, 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: It's like he's reporting the weather from city to city. 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: It's like, Oh, we're going to this game over here 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: and all that that's a touchdown out back to this. 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: Like I miss Scott Hansen. I needed him back in 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: my life for Christmas. 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Watch the Red Zone. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, I think Red Zone 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: is falling off. And the reason why I say that 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: is because I feel like Red Zone they pick one 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: or two games and they show all at all, So 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: there will be other games that will like they literally 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: won't show a score for like three different scores. So 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: it's just like I think that's that's the one thing 49 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: I don't like about red Zone. And if you have 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: Direct TV or you have Sunday Ticket, pretty much you 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: can put the screen up and you can watch every 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: game and then have red Zone on one time. You 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: gotta have all of those screens. 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: That's true. I only got the one screen at my parents' house. 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: So part part of the gig for holiday weekend here. 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: But Christmas can't complain. By the way, we are recording 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: a bit early Sunday night, so we will not talk 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: about Sunday Night football that is happening as we are recording. 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: We will get to Monday night football. We'll get to 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: our week seventeen hot read. Of course odds there from BEMGM, 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: the official odds provider of the Action Network podcast. And 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna start out with those two Christmas games. I 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: thought they were the best two of the weekend. The 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: back on Saturday. What Christmas first game Cleveland in green Bay. Yeah, again, 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: the Green Bay felt like they dominated most the way 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: they should have had it. They left their foot off 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: the gas pedal late. It really feels like Cleveland could 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: have had this game. But Baker Mayfield through his fourth 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: interception of the game in the final drive. Green Bay 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: holds on to win twenty four to twenty two. Cleveland 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: did get the cover, but another close win for the Packers. 72 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: They stay underbeaten at home. What did you make of 73 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: Packers Browns? 74 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: I think we might have taken two different things from 75 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: this game, because when I watched this game, I felt 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: like the Browns actually dominate. I had yeah, like, I mean, look, 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: opening drive, they score touchdown and then missed the extra point. 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: To me, that was a microcosm of the game. 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Look, they ran the ball down their throats like it 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: was like nineteen to fifty. The Browns hit eight point 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: eight yards per rush, six point two yards per played, 82 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: four hundred and eight yards, two hundred and nineteen rushing yards. 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb got whatever he wanted. It basically came down 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: to turnos and Baker Mayfield, which is something that I've 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: been saying for the past four or five weeks. He's 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: almost unbeedable because he's given the ball away, he's missing throws, 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: and then obviously you have the Lambeau effect. The Packers 88 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: have the greatest home foot advantage in the NFL, and 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: a lot of that has to do with these questionable 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: calls that just aren't being caught against the package. 91 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's talk about that for a second, because 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: I saw your tweet about that. 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: What did the number come out to? 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: Is it something like four and a half points for 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: Green Bead that they're getting home field advantage? 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Yep? 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Well what's the time for him on that? How far 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: back I. 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: Did the last ten seasons except for teams that had 100 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: a new stadium. 101 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, don't want to do it like all time because 102 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: it's just. 103 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, so four and a half that's huge because a 104 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: typical home field advantage we're at two and a half 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: these days, right, that's about the typical. 106 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: No, I mean I think we're far less than it. 107 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: We're looking at pretty much like home foo advantage is 108 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: almost nothing. 109 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: At this point. But collectively, if you took all the 110 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: stadiums I have it almost nothing, almost a half a point. 111 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: So especially then if Green Bay is four and a 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: half compared to a half point, that's better than a 113 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: field goal that the Packers are getting every time they 114 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: play at home. So we've got as better as we 115 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: have got the factor that in on our copy. 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: I mean, look, the Packers win. 117 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: By two, they win by home field advantage, and you know, 118 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: there were a bunch of calls that went their way 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: like they always do that. The refs just are not 120 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: really willing to call some of those close the past interferences, 121 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: some of those on green Bay unless. 122 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: They're playing Brady and it's the NFC Championship game, like 123 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: that's really what it comes down to and really has 124 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: to be factor. Then if you're making a bet against 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: green Bay at home in the playoffs, they're not playing 126 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: Brady and the Golden Boy is going against Aaron Rodgers, 127 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: then you're in a tough position bait in this team. 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're right that the Browns. I actually have 129 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: given the Browns more credit, I guess more. What I 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 4: meant when I said the Packers are in control is 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: twenty four to twelve. You know, right after the half 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: at twenty four to twelve, with Baker Mayfield on the 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: road in green Bay, that's just game over to me. 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: Like at that point, I'm assuming no matter what I've seen, 135 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: I know they've been running the ball well, but Baker 136 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: on the road in green Bay down twelve, I don't 137 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: see it happening. Not it almost did, but that's kind 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: of what I meant by being in control. 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: But yeah, the eight point eight yards of carry Chubb 140 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: at seventeen rushes one hundred and twenty six yards. I 141 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: saw this. 142 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: So each each series in a football game, a series 143 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: is anytime you start on a new first down. So 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: the Browns had thirty three series in this game. Sixteen 145 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: times they started a series. 146 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: With a rush. 147 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: Their success rate on series where they started with the 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: run on first down one one hundred percent. Every single 149 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: drive they started or every single series they started with 150 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: the run one hundred percent success rate, meaning success is 151 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: you're picking up the first down, you're moving the ball 152 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: for to be in a position passing obviously, nowhere near that. 153 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: One hundred percent is pretty good. You can't do better 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: than that. And then we get the ball down near 155 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: the end, the Browns are like almost near midfield. They're 156 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: dashing the Packers run defense, which I haven't stopped them 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: all game. Just don't let Baker throw anything but Baker 158 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: throwing hand the ball off three four more times. Get 159 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: in the field goal range. You're down too. I know 160 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: their kicker is missing kicks two, but yeah, this is 161 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: the rare, rare game where you have to run stop 162 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: passing the ball. It's not working. Baker at five sacks, 163 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: four interceptions, he should have more. And it just the 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: Browns defense and run game did everything right in this game. 165 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: And Baker was the MVP for the Packers here. 166 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without a doubt. Look, I was on the 167 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Browns plus seven and a half and we were lucky 168 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: to get there. But look, Kevin Stefanski, I leve them. 169 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: He won an IVY League championship at pin back in 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight right before I got there, So 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 2: I'm always going to champion this guy. But I wanted 172 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: to snatch it pen degree for the game plan that 173 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 2: he put together here. You mentioned all the rushing success 174 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: rate stats on first down, but they had a sixty 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: success rate running the ball in general, forty eight percent 176 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: of their run plays gained them a first down, and 177 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: then on early downs they had a sixty four success rate. 178 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: So it just was very frustrating to see the Browns 179 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: just not take the air out of the football. Obviously, 180 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: you got Aaron Rodgers on the other side of the field. 181 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is absolutely unstoppable, except for the two drops 182 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: that he had at the end, which was just absolutely 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: shocking because. 184 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: Camp believe he dropped that one and just put the 185 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: game away. 186 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: And that gave the Browns life. But you got a 187 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: dominant run game. Baker struggling and he's he hasn't. This 188 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: is not a new thing. Take the air out out 189 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: of the ball and run the ball, and I think 190 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: this is a totally different game. The Browns probably should 191 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: have won that game. But I think there's a lot 192 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: to be concerned with when it comes to the Packers 193 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: going forward. I know Kenny Clark us back for this game, 194 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: and you can't stop the run in the playoffs, you 195 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: could really set yourself up to be a bad position. 196 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that was what I left thinking about this 197 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: game is, Man, if the Packers can't get off the 198 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: field against these Browns or against the Ravens last week, 199 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: like we're in trouble. Because these are borderline playoff teams 200 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: at best, and there are a lot tougher opponents to 201 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: come in the playoffs. It looks like, you know, the 202 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: win here is the most important takeaway because Green Bay 203 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 4: is an excellent position now to get the one seed. 204 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: Then you get the bye week, which we always say 205 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: is huge, and you get a couple of home games 206 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: but man so at twenty four to twelve. After they 207 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: took that lead, they did not score again the rest 208 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: of the game. They had two more first downs the 209 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 4: entire game. One was on the penalty when they jumped 210 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: off side to clinch the game. Fourteen plays thirty six 211 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: yards basically the entire second half after that opening drive. 212 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: So Roger, they did that last week too. Rodgers could 213 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: not get the offense getting some first downs. They're not 214 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: running the ball there, They're they're they're missing opportunities and 215 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: their defense is. 216 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: Not getting off the field. 217 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a big missed opportunity for Cleveland. 218 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: Credit to Green Bay for getting these wins. But yeah, 219 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: you and I are both in the same spot. We're 220 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 4: not feeling great about the Packers going forward. 221 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: You let a real opponent. 222 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: That's not the Browns or Baker or Tyler hunt Lee, 223 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: you let them stay in these games, they're gonna beat you, 224 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: and all it takes is once in the playoffs. 225 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. And I mean I got 226 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: criticized o the day for saying it. 227 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: I believe the forty niners can beat the Packers, but 228 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: they're a team that can run the book like this 229 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: is They've struggled with that outside zone read for much 230 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: of the last three seasons, and I think that's something 231 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: that could come back and invite them. Obviously, they do 232 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: have the home foot of vantage, so they are the favorite, 233 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: but you really do have to be concerned for his team, 234 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: especially with Aaron Rodgers. 235 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: He has his toe injury. 236 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 4: So yep, all right, Well, another big team in the 237 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: NFC to be concerned with played Saturday night, Christmas Day, 238 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals on a three game losing 239 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: streak now losing at home to the Indianapolis Colts. 240 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: So we gave this one out. 241 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: I gave you Colts plus four a week ago on 242 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: the look ahead. And then suddenly the Colts are picking 243 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: up offensive line injuries. Twent Nelson is out, Brian Kelly 244 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: is out, the right guard is out halfway through the 245 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: first half, the left tackle is out, Jack Doyle, they're 246 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: blocking tight end goes out. 247 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: We got nothing left? 248 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: Like the Colts are literally down the six offensive linemen 249 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 4: and one tight end for the entire second half of 250 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: the game on the road in Arizona against the team 251 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: that thinks that they're a one seed possibly and this 252 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: to me is just an inexplicable loss for the Cardinals. 253 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: Colts win twenty two to sixteen. Coaching disaster. 254 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: I'll get back to that in a little bit, but 255 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: Colts are really on a roll here. Plus three is 256 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: where this one close. They get the win plus one 257 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: to forty to the money line on the win outright, Yeah, 258 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: big win for Indianapolis. Do you take more for this 259 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: game for the Colts or do you take more against 260 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: the eric Cardinals. 261 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Here, Look, they just made a critical mistake. They based 262 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: just didn't play clean football. When you look at the 263 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: match up Arizona, they missed a couple of field goals. 264 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: Do you had this this safety? It's like if you 265 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: take away that, like, this is pretty much a tie game. 266 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: So this is this is just a tough situation because 267 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: you have the coach, they're missing Darius Leonard, they're. 268 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Just banged up when all of it's line. 269 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: But it's just this Arizona Cardinals offense really just didn't 270 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: get a lot going. 271 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: So it's a rough spot. 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: So we've talked a lot about Cliff Kingsbury on this podcast. 273 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: We dumped on them a lot in preseason. We get 274 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: saying his praise as the Cardinals went to ten and two. 275 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm back to dumping on them. This was a disaster 276 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: game for Kingsbury. So we know Arizona missed two field goals, 277 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: they miss an excer point, and so they don't really 278 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: trust the kicking game. But Matt Prater, good kicker. You 279 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: know you have a bad game, you hit the upright, 280 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: whatever life goes on. So we know this by now. 281 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: The Cardinals are down nine. Their drive with the ball 282 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: six six minutes, five minutes, leapt it gets to about 283 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: the two minute warning. 284 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: You kick the field goal there. 285 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: You need a field. 286 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: Goal and a touchdown. You gotta kick the field goal. 287 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: Willle o'clock is stop, get your kicker on, get them 288 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: set up, no rushing around. You're at like the thirty whatever, 289 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: kick the field goal. You're gonna need the onside. You 290 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: gotta need a second score. Instead, they keep driving. They 291 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 4: keep driving, all right, So now you're committed. You have 292 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: to get the touchdown. Now they get down inside. 293 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: The ten, it's third and goal and we're under a 294 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: minute now down nine, and they bring the kicker on 295 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: on third and goal. What we're afraid of not running 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: a three second play for another chance of a touchdown here, Like, 297 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: what are we kicking on third and goal for? They 298 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: make the field goal hooray and then don't recover the 299 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: onside kick and that's it is disastrous coaching. 300 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: You. 301 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: The thing that was frustrating for me about that is 302 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: that actually felt like they probably should have kicked the 303 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: field goal earlier. 304 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, minute warning. Yeah. 305 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 4: Either either you do it as soon as you get 306 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: in range and then leave yourself time for the touchdown, 307 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: or if you don't, you got to get the touchdown 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: now you can be kicking on third down right near 309 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: the end. Earlier in the game, Kingsbury used a challenge 310 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: pretty early on a play where if he was right, 311 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: it would have got the Colts to have third and 312 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: seventeen instead of third and ten. It's just not a 313 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: good challenge. Like when you're challenging a play, you have 314 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: to hope that you're going to get it right, but 315 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: you also have to consider what's the upside? What are 316 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: we getting out of this. The Colts later challenged a 317 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: play or try to challenge where they thought there was 318 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: a fumble that they could return for a touchdown. 319 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: That's upside. 320 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: You get a touchdown out of it if you're right 321 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: upside is not third and seventeen versus third and ten. 322 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: They challenged it, they lost it as a pretty obvious 323 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: challenge that wasn't going to win. And then two other 324 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: times there were spots where you'd need to challenge, but 325 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: then they couldn't because they'd already blown the challenge early. 326 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: And so that was a big error for Kingsbury to 327 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: look this team. I tried to trust them right coming 328 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: into this three game losing streak. I was already to say, Okay, 329 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: maybe I just was wrong. Maybe the Cardinals are actually good. 330 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: The defense is playing well. Kyler Murray MVP candidate. I 331 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: put a unit on him just in case he made 332 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: a run. Not happening. Kyler is not an MVP candidate. 333 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: The defense is looking awful right now. They can't get 334 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: off the field. They've been really bad since Jji A. 335 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: Lott left and Arizona's reeling. They did clinch a playoff 336 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: spot thanks to the Rams beating the Vikings today, so 337 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: they're in. But I'm not feeling great about them. And 338 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: this was just this is a game you can't lose 339 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: when you have the Colts with no offensive line on 340 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: the road, and really they mostly took care of Jonathan 341 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: Taylor after the very first carry of the game, and 342 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: Darius Leonard out is big against Kyler Murray. 343 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: You have to win this game in your Arizona Oh. 344 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt. 345 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I know they did take care of Jonathan 346 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: Taylor afterwards, but I think the run defense is still 347 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: a concern for this team. And you're gonna have to 348 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: go up against Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon, You're gonna 349 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: have to go up against Ezekiel Ellie and Tony Pollot. 350 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to go out up against the San 351 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers in that run defense. The only 352 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: run offense you're gonna have to go up against the 353 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The only team that really can't run 354 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: the ball that's in like in the playoff picture is 355 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: probably the Rams. So look, this offense is falling off 356 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: a cliff. Obviously, DeAndre Hopkins is out. We know about 357 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: all the stats with Cliff Kingsbury. After week eight and 358 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: later he's eight and eighteen. So this guy gets figured 359 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: out and he can't make adjustments. And that's going all 360 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: the way back to Texas Tech. If you look at 361 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: his numbers, he went two and four after Week eight 362 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: every single year, and. 363 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: One year he went one in five. 364 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: So this game was like one of the more frustrated 365 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: games for me because obviously, look this number. 366 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: A lot of the Sharks were. 367 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: All over Arizona laying a one and a half, this 368 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: number closed three, three and a half. 369 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: You got, It's just more this. 370 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: Is one of the weirdest years in the NFL, and 371 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: that this is one of the first years in which 372 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: the well, the opening line has been more efficient than 373 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: the closing line. And this is one of those games 374 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: to where for whatever reason, it's just not going the 375 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: way that we typically see in NFL markets. 376 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, frustrating for me too. I mentioned I had the 377 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: Colts plus four and the look Ahead. I bought out 378 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: on Saturday because the Colts had no offensive line. Like, 379 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: the whole point is that I thought they were gonna 380 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: run all over Arizona. They didn't really, so it was 381 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: the right decision to buy out, but ended up buying 382 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: out of the winning position. I still had a little 383 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: money line action, so I came out all right, but 384 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: frustrating to keep getting closing line value and not coming through. 385 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: By the way Carson Wentz, we've dumped a lot on 386 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: Carson this season. My guy threw an elite touchdown pass 387 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: on that game winning drive at the end, rolling left 388 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: across his body, four defenders, and he's throwing into a 389 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: pocket to some dude named Desmond Padden who I've never 390 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 4: heard of before. Wentz was throwing to Desmond Patten, Ashton Doolan, 391 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: Kylan Granson. These are real Colts players that cop passes. 392 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: In this game. 393 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: Once Once was the MVP quarterback in this game. He 394 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: made those big plays late to keep them going. 395 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. 396 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: So a few years ago, the Cardinals had drafted Josh 397 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: Rosen in the first round and got to the end 398 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: of the season and they knew Rosen was not their guy. 399 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: Caler Murray was available, and they made the ballsy move 400 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: and clearly the right move to take a quarterback first 401 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: round two years in a row and switch out. As 402 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: recently as two weeks ago, Cliff Kingsbury was Coach of 403 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: the Year favorite. I think the Arizona Cardinals should fire 404 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury and bring in a real coach that can 405 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: give this team where they need to go in the offseason. 406 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: What do you think? 407 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I think I totally agree with that. 408 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell has been saying this for years, and I 409 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: think the proof was in the putting, So I do think. 410 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we came into this year thinking. 411 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: That the Arizona Cardinals would probably finished last in the division, 412 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of that was due to Cliff Kingsbury. 413 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: And obviously they shot it. But I think they need 414 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: to do what they have to do. But if they 415 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: get into the player, it's probably not gonna happen. 416 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: Not feeling great about them. 417 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 4: Let's go to Sunday, the big rematch between New England 418 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: and Buffalo. We didn't really get this game, the real 419 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: one the first time. We were in a tornado the 420 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: first time basically, and didn't really get to see what 421 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: these teams had. New England opened around two and a 422 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: half three point favorites, this close close to a pickup. 423 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: New England was about minus one Bill's even on the 424 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: money line, and I thought Buffalo relatively dominated this game. 425 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: They showed they were a much better team four hunder 426 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 4: and twenty eight yards of offense to only two hundred 427 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: and eighty. 428 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: Eight for the Patriots. 429 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 4: Basically, to me, what happened is both defenses showed up 430 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: and it came down to the quarterback play and presumed 431 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: rookie of the year Mac Jones was not ready for 432 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: the job. Josh Allen was ready. Josh Allen had I 433 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 4: thought his game of the season Bill's win thirty three 434 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: to twenty one. Buffalo now controls its destiny in the 435 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 4: AFC East. They only have the Falcons and the Jets left, 436 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: so went out and their division champs. Big win for Buffalo. 437 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely hughes win for Buffalo, and I actually 438 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: regret because I think we spoke about it on the 439 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: podcast right after the Monday night football game where we 440 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: felt like Buffalo was the better team, and for some reason, 441 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: I came back to the fact that the Patriots had 442 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: such a dominant effort on the ground, and I thought 443 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: that would matter. And really what it came down to, 444 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: like you said, was Josh Allen put the plays together. 445 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: I hadn't really been trusting Josh Allen this year, but 446 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: he did what he had to do. 447 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: I looked, he quited thirty. 448 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: Or forty seven passes, three hundred and fourteen yards and 449 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. 450 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: The big time players show up in big time moments, 451 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: and that's what he did. 452 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, that also twelve rushes for sixty four yards. We 453 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: talked about that on our preview. I thought Allen would 454 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: have run more of this game, and those are some 455 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: designed runs and some scrambles. 456 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: On the clinching touchdown. 457 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: Lay it was a pass, but it was a rollout 458 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: bootleg where he kind of flipped the ball because they 459 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: collapsed on him as a runner and left this guy 460 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: wide open for an easy touchdown snag. I think Allen's 461 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: decision making and his legs, his ability as a runner 462 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: was the difference in this game, and it really came 463 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: through as a threat. New England just didn't have a 464 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: way to stop Allen this game. When he was up 465 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: near the top of the MVP board, all s he's along. 466 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: He's not anymore. He's not gonna win it, not this year, 467 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: this game. This is the MVP Josh Allen that might 468 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: win it some year in the future. He plays like this, 469 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 4: there's a monster performance by him. Mac Jones fourteen of 470 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: thirty two, one hundred and forty five yards two interceptions. 471 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 4: Looked like a rookie playing a top defense in a 472 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: huge game. You know, that's not really a critique. They're 473 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: a rookie. This is what's supposed to happen. So, yeah, 474 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 4: Damien Harris was big. 475 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: You were right. 476 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: New England ran the ball well, had one hundred and 477 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 4: three yards and three touchdowns, kind of kept the minute. 478 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: But this was a game where Buffalo. The score line 479 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: never really had Buffalo totally in control. But it felt 480 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: like Buffalo was comfortable most of the way. 481 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without a doubt, Like I mean up until 482 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: the end where it's just like Buffalo and Josh Allen, 483 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: they needed the first fourth down conversion to to pretty 484 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: much put this out of range. 485 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: It just it didn't feel like Buffalo was going to 486 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: lose this game. Now. 487 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: I felt like the Patriots made a valley effort in 488 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: the end, but like Buffalo was in control. 489 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: So you know what I loved about this game too, 490 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: I loved we talked of this a lot, aggressive coaching, 491 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: and finally Bill Belichick was aggressive coaching this one too. 492 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: Do you know that there were ten fourth down attempts 493 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: in this game? These coaches were going for it. They 494 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: knew every point matters, every possession matters, and the Bills 495 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: were three or four and fourth down. The Patriots are 496 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: five of six on fourth down, so we're eight out 497 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: of ten combined on fourth down, just moving the chains. 498 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: In this game, there were nine drives of nine or 499 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: more plays and these are by DVA, the top two 500 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: defenses the entire football, and the defenses can't go out 501 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: the field because they're just using four downs and just 502 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: just keeping the ball moving. The entire second half was 503 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: all nine plus play drive and tell the Neil down 504 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: at the end. So that to me does not say 505 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: the defenses weren't good enough. No, the defenses were good here. 506 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: That's just that's good coaching, and that's knowing this is 507 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: our super Bowl. The regular season, this is it, this 508 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: is the division, this is everything. We got to get 509 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: this win. We're taking every advantage we can. That's why 510 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: we got the fourth down opportunities. So we got more 511 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 4: Allen running, and I appreciate it. You know, teen Sean 512 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: McDermott and Bill Belichick, I just you know, the older 513 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: I get. I just want to see some good football. 514 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 4: I want to see the coaches do things right and 515 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 4: play play the right way. I thought we got two 516 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: good teams playing a good playoff game, and I thought 517 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: the better team won today. 518 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: Josh Allen was the hero. 519 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: Does stats show at all? 520 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: Obviously, Buffalo one yard is four hundred and twenty eight 521 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: to two hundred and eighty eight yards per play, five 522 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: point seven to four point eight third downs fifty ten percent. 523 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: Buffalo's clearly the better team. And this is the quarterbacks League, 524 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: So mag Jones is going to have to learn and 525 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: grow and he's gonna have to have to learn how 526 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: to put the team on the back in these type 527 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: the games. 528 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough spot for New England too, 529 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: because losing this game probably means they don't win the division, 530 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: which now means you've got your rookie quarterback who's been 531 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: very good as a rookie but still has this game 532 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: in him. Now he's got to go on the road 533 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: in the playoffs because you're not a division winner, and 534 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: you got to go on the road to you know, 535 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: not necessarily the hardest opponent, depending on how this goes, 536 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: could be Kansas City, might be like Tennessee or Cincinnati, 537 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: someone like that. 538 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: But you don't want to go on the road in 539 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: the playoffs. 540 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: That's New England's bread and butter for two decades has 541 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: been get the one of the two seed, get the 542 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: buye a week and just sit a week out and 543 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: get the home game. Suddenly in the AFC title game 544 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: they didn't get. They didn't get that now, so that 545 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: New Land's not even necessarily in the playoffs. They played 546 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 4: Jacksonville next week, but the AFC is pretty congested. Final 547 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: week of the season. New England at Miami that could 548 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: end up basically a playoff game. And again that one's 549 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: on the road too, So New England. 550 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: We all know New England has struggled on the road 551 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: in Miami. 552 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they sure have. So we'll see about that. They're 553 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: they're not a lock to get at this point. Also 554 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: not a lock to get at this point is the 555 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Chargers. 556 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: That is our stink of the week. Smelly, smelly, smelly. 557 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: It's the smell. It's quite pungent. Dude, plug your nose, 558 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: it's stinks. 559 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: This is your stink of the week. 560 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Chargers head to Houston for the freebie. Look, 561 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: this is not just the Texans, this is the Texans 562 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: practice squad. 563 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: They got nobody left on this team. They're COVID ravaged 564 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: of this team. They're missing eight defensive starters, four or 565 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: five offensive linemen. Brandon Cooks, who's basically the only good 566 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: player on offense, they're all out. The Chargers go from 567 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: eight and a half point favorites to thirteen point favorites 568 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 3: by kickoff. So again, you're feeling great if you got 569 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: your early Chargers ticket. You're sitting on easy money here. 570 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: And the Texans came out and really dominated the game 571 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: for the most part. Texans forty one twenty nine big 572 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: when plus four fifty money line where this one closed, 573 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: plus thirteen on the cover. Texans almost hit the over 574 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: on their own as the underdog. And this is just 575 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: an absolute disastrous performance for the Chargers here. 576 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was absolutely horrible. 577 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you saw Davis Mills went out there and 578 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: had the game of his career. 579 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: It was almost shocking. 580 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: And you know, even when the Chargers were trying to 581 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: make it a game, it felt like they weren't gonna 582 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: be able to stop Davis Mills. I mean, twenty one 583 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: of twenty seven fifty four yards, nine point four yards 584 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: per completion, two touchdowns, just an absolute dominant performance from 585 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: Davis Mills. 586 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: So you got to give him the credit. 587 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: And then obviously, you know his Chargers defense has struggled 588 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: to consistently stop teams, but it's a little disappointing when 589 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: you come off the Thursday night game in which you've blown, 590 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: you already blew a. 591 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: Game to the Chiefs, and you still can't get it done. 592 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly the Thursday night game, their last game. 593 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: They should have had that one. They should have been 594 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 4: at the Chiefs, and now you're con for a top 595 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: seed in the AFC and a home game. 596 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: Instead you blow that one. You come out and just 597 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: lay an. 598 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 4: Egg and if you can't get off the field against 599 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: Davis Mills. 600 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: Rex Burkhead. Rex Burkhead has. 601 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: A career game one hundred and forty nine yards rushing 602 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Davis Mills is nine point four yards per attempt. 603 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: Houston the entire season had not scored twenty four points 604 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: any game against anyone but Jacksonville. They scored twenty four 605 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter against the Chargers to put them away. 606 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: Picksakes by Herbert. Not good enough, It's not good enough. 607 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: The Chargers have got to win games like this. It 608 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: still feels too much like the same old Chargers. They 609 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: fall to eight and seven now, so they are tied 610 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: with the Ravens and the Raiders for the final playoff 611 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: spot in the AFC possibly Miami if the Dolphins win 612 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: on Monday Night. This is a damaging loss. The Chargers 613 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: took out to play the Broncos in at Vegas, and 614 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: that game at Vegas in the final week, that's another 615 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: one where that. 616 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: Could be at the facto playoff game. 617 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: We've got some very tight AFC races coming up, and 618 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 4: the Chargers were in a great spot and they're not anymore. 619 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: This was a freeview that they gave a lot. 620 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. I actually have my own 621 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: stake of the week this week. 622 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: For those of you who didn't watch the Las Vegas 623 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: Raiders take on the Denver Broncos. The Raiders got it 624 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: done in the end, but when you're watching the game, 625 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: the Raiders were half a point underdog, you might have 626 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: been able to get them plus one as I did. 627 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: The Raiders are up seven to three. The Broncos punt 628 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: the ball. The Raiders are at their own thirty three. 629 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: It looks like they're about to drive, and actually they're 630 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: at their own own forty and second and three. Josh 631 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: Jacobs catches the screen pass he has daylight in front 632 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: of him. 633 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Instead, he fumbles it. Broncos pick it up. 634 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: There's two minutes left on the clock, down seven to three, 635 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: and the Broncos they get held to a field goal. 636 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: So they get held to a field goal. There's twenty 637 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: seconds left. 638 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: If you have the Raiders, you're sitting pretty knowing that 639 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: you're up a point, and you're getting a half a point, 640 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: you're getting a point. 641 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: It's twenty seconds left. Ninety nine percent of the. 642 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: Time, a team that just turned the ball over, they're 643 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: more than likely just going to run the clock out, 644 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: take a knee, and go to the halftime with the league. 645 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: The Raiders don't do that. What the Raiders do They 646 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: try to throw a screen pass. Bradley Chubb jumps up, 647 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: tips it, intercepts it, takes it down. 648 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: To the one. 649 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: Broncos running in with Javonte Williams. Broncos win the first half. 650 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: They're of thirteen to seven and a game in which 651 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: the Raiders absolutely dominated as a whole. The only reason 652 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: why the Broncos were in the game is because of 653 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: three Raiders turnovers. This is the game that Drew Lock. 654 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: He just couldn't get it done. Fifteen of twenty two, 655 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three yards. Raiders out gained them 656 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: three forty two to one. Fifty eight yards would play 657 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: five point one to four point zero. It's just a 658 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: total domination. But as you know, turnovers will the other 659 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: team in the game. Where the Raiders were able to 660 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: clean up the turn over the second half eventually got 661 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: it done. 662 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: But if you were in that first half, it's probably 663 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: the bad beat. 664 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: That's a brutal first half beat. Raiders end up winning 665 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: seventeen to thirteen. Broncos under twelve and three now on 666 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: the season, just doesn't matter how low they set that line. 667 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: They just keep on going under. Denver ran sixteen times 668 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: for eighteen yards. Just nothing going in this game. The 669 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: Raiders have been terrible for like half of the season 670 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: now and they just crushed the Broncos here maybe maybe 671 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: the most weird, unpredictable team in a season filled with them. 672 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: Denver I think was one of ten on third down. 673 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: Drew Lock, just get him out of here, Like, how 674 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: did this guy compete with Teddy Bridgewater first spot in 675 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: the preseason Drew Lock is horrendous, And yet the Broncos 676 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: are still in the playoff mix and they got to 677 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 4: probably rely unlock these next couple of weeks. 678 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: If Petty's not ready to go. 679 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's totally tragic, But I'm gonna 680 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: be honest with you. I think their season is it's 681 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: headed towards the end. I think they're gonna be one 682 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: of those teams that next year they're gonna be looking 683 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: to see if they can get Aaron Rodgers, because I 684 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: do believe Aaron Rodgers is talking about becoming. 685 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: A free agent at the end of this season. I 686 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: know that's what they agreed upon. 687 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: They're gonna be one of those teams that think looking 688 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: at getting Russell Wilson because we all know he probably 689 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: wants out of Seattle. And then obviously Deshaun Watson is 690 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: still out there. So they're gonna be a team that's 691 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: looking for a quarterback, and I think they're a quarterback away. 692 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: They got a solid defense, they got a lot of weapons, 693 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: but this just isn't their year when you lose Bridgewater, 694 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: who's just consistent a lot. He played a clean game today, 695 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: but as a whole, he's just not a guy that 696 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: you could depend on. 697 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: He's a backup in this league. 698 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not the guy. Vic Beanjill not the guy either. 699 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: They're gonna have a new quarterback and a new coach 700 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: next year, so we'll see where Denver goes. They're still 701 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: in the mix. They're still playing some playoff games down 702 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: the stretch here, so they'll have a shot. AFC is 703 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: going to just be a wild arrive these last. 704 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: Couple of weeks. 705 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: We still got about ten teams kind of fighting for 706 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: the same few positions. 707 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: There. 708 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: Let's hit the rest of his action and wrap up 709 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: Week sixteen. The Bengals demolished the Ravens for a second 710 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: time this season, basically a repeat of the first game 711 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: forty one seventeen last time forty one twenty one. Today, 712 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: Cincinnati nearly hit raheems over. He gave Ale that one 713 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: out to you, nearly hit it on their own with 714 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 4: their forty one points. Josh Johnson end up starting for 715 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: Baltimore with Lamar Jackson and Tyler Hunley out last second, 716 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: but really Baltimore's defense took the day off with those 717 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: quarterbacks too. Joe Burrow four touchdowns, five hundred twenty five yards. 718 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: That is the fourth most passing yards in NFL history. 719 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow finished the season with nine hundred forty one 720 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: yards against Baltimore. That's more by any player against a 721 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 4: single opponent in NFL history. The only seven guys in 722 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: history had even had eight hundred yards against one opponent. 723 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: Burrow had nine hundred and forty one on the season. 724 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: So if you're Baltimore, you better hope you don't sneak 725 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 4: into the playoffs and get a third game with Cincinnati. 726 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: It's not looking good for you. The Vikings hung close 727 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 4: with the Rams well game on the scoreboard, but never 728 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: really felt in it, and a punt return touchdown was 729 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: the backbreaker. LA wins thirty to twenty three. First time 730 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 4: all season Minnesota did not lead by at least six, 731 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: actually didn't lead at all this game, but they did 732 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: get it back to a one score game. Gotta keep tradition. 733 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: Fourteen to fifteen on the season now, Rams cover and 734 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 4: the game did go over late, and the Rams win 735 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: did clinch the playoffs for both the Rams and the Cardinals. 736 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 4: The Lions stupidly kicked a field goal down seven with 737 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: two and a half minutes left because why not, and 738 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: Atlanta beats another bad team twenty to sixteen. Atlanta ran 739 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: forty five plays in under twenty two minutes of possession 740 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: and beat the Lions anyway. There's seven to two now 741 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: against teams outside the playoffs. All seven wins by a 742 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: one score. And if you got this one early when 743 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: we gave it out on the hot read, you actually 744 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: got a Falcons cover, even though the line moved late 745 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: once Jared Goff went out and Lions covered the closing line. 746 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: The Bears usually knocked the Seahawks out of the playoffs 747 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: in a Seattle snowstorm. 748 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: Nick Foles came back to. 749 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: Lead an eighty yard touchdown drive in the final minutes 750 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: and the Bears went for two. Got Matt Nagy a 751 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 4: Christmas present in what could be his going away gift 752 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: as well. Chicago wins twenty five to twenty four, and 753 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: that late touchdown hit the over and the Bears get 754 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 4: plus to forty on the money line. Cam Newton lost 755 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: his thirteenth consecutive start for the Panthers, but the Fans 756 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: decide to boot Sam Darnold instat Carolina loses thirty two 757 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 4: to six. Tampa Bay clinches a division for the first 758 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: time since two thousand and seven and hit the under 759 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: thinks to their defense. The Chiefs also clinched their division. 760 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: Six straight divisions for the Chiefs thirty six to ten 761 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: over the Steelers. That just went over thanks to a 762 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: little bit of late scoring by Pittsburgh after pretty lifeless 763 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 4: first three quarters of the game. Down five with twelve 764 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: seconds left, the Jacksonville Jaguars rushed to the line and 765 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 4: spike the ball on third and goal at the one, 766 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: just giving a play away because the why not. 767 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: We're the Jaguars, we do what we do. 768 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: Then they snapped it with multiple men in motion, no 769 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: idea what they're doing, and threw away the final two 770 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: plays the game, losing twenty six to twenty one to 771 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: the Jets. Maybe it wasn't all urban Meyer's fault after all. 772 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 4: In Jacksonville and Jake fromm and Mike Glennon threw forty 773 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 4: four times for one hundred and eight yards for the Giants, 774 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 4: a whopping two point seven yards per attempt. New York 775 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: had one hundred and ninety yards offense. Eagles crushed the 776 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: GM in But good news Giants fans. New York announced 777 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: they're bringing back Joe Judge and Daniel Jones next season. 778 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 4: Merry Christmas to you. 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But not 816 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 4: just any Saints. No Jamis Winston, he's hurt. No Trevor Sammon, 817 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 4: No Taysom Hill. They're both in COVID protocol Notre Dame 818 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 4: z Own. Ian Book will make his NFL debut. He 819 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 4: has never thrown a pass in a game before in 820 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 4: the regular season. He'll start at home for New Orleans. 821 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 4: They are now two and a half point underdogs to 822 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 4: the Dolphins, with a total at thirty seven point five points. 823 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: Will you be watching the one for him? 824 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: Look, I'll be watching it just because the run that 825 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: Miami is on, you kind of gotta respect it. Look, 826 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: the Saints are one of the most inconsistent teams in 827 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: the NFL. They have wins over the Buccaneers twice, the Packers, 828 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: the Patriots. They've lost us to the Falcons, Panthers, Giants. 829 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: They're just an up and down team and you just 830 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: never know when this team is actually going to show up. 831 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm betting it it won't be this week. Obviously, Taysom 832 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: Hill is out. You got Ian Book in the lineup, 833 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: and the Doveins gonna have all their weapons back. They 834 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: got Jailing Wado to return with Devonte Parker and Mike Jasaki. 835 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: This is another spot where I feel like they're gonna 836 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: be successful offensively. I think they win this game. Brian 837 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: Flores has put together a solid defensive package. I like 838 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: them in this spot plus three that was previously in 839 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: the market and the way closing line value has been 840 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: going for us this season, it hasn't been great, but 841 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 2: I think I'll pick them. I like them to win 842 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: this game. We actually they're minus three now. It's tough 843 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: to lay it at this spot. 844 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 4: That's right where I'm at before the quarterback news. That's 845 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: why the line shifted so much. You know, we got 846 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 4: a quarterback making his debut here. 847 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, though, is ian Book really worse than 848 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: Trevor Samian or Taysom Mill. 849 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 4: We got a tight end playing quarterback for this team normally, 850 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: so I think ian Book will be all right. I 851 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 4: don't care. I like the Dolphins a lot here. 852 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 3: I love them. 853 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: This was my favorite bet of the week before the 854 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 4: line moved. Mini plus three was my top player of 855 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 4: the week. I was devastated to not get it because 856 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 4: I'm done betting early. 857 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: No more betting early. 858 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 4: COVID has messing everything up, so I missed the spot 859 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: this time to get the value. I'm with you, though, 860 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 4: I still like Miami here. He's a few numbers last 861 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 4: six weeks on EPI expeck points added. Saints offense thirty 862 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: first in the NFL over the last six weeks, and 863 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 4: I was with the quarterback that's played. By the way, 864 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 4: they're barely ahead of the Giants for dead last in 865 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: the NFL during those same six weeks. Guess who's the 866 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: number one defense by EPA yep, Miami Dolphins, number one defense, 867 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 4: number one pass defense by far. Dolphins run defense a 868 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: little vulnerable during that time, bottom ten, and that's what 869 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: the Saints like to do. 870 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: They like to run. 871 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 4: But they've also been bottom ten rushing attack with the 872 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 4: ball during that time. So it's not just the quarterback 873 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: missing here. The other big misses are the two tackles 874 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 4: for the Saints. Tron Armstead is questionable at left tackle, 875 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 4: Ryan Ramsay is out in COVID protocol at right tackle. 876 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 4: The strength of this team is its defense and its 877 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 4: offensive line, and us in the book ends there. So 878 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 4: here's what we got now. A quarterback who's never played. 879 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 4: It's Monday night, Christmas weekend on prime time, and you 880 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 4: got no blocking on either side against oh right, Brian 881 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 4: Flores's defense who blitzes every chance they breathe and for 882 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 4: Ian Book, this is a rough spot for my guy. 883 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 4: He's going to be under pressure all game long in 884 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: this one. You don't have any receivers in New Orleans. 885 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: You don't really have much of anything on offensive then, 886 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, I just don't know how no one's going 887 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 4: to score here. 888 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. 889 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean in this situation, it's just look, I mean, 890 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: like I said before, the new one of the Saints, 891 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 2: you're just an up and down team. 892 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: You never really know when they're going to show up. 893 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 2: They only scored nine points last week against the Tampa 894 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers, and it just so happens that the Buccaneers 895 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: are a team who's numbered that they had, they've been 896 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 2: able to put pressure on Tom Brady. 897 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: But I really like Miami and this spot. 898 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: I just don't know how you can go about laying 899 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: the three in this spot. It's just look, if a 900 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: game opens three and you're laying three, you're not gonna 901 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: win too much long term. So I do think it's 902 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: tough to do that. But if you got to play anything, 903 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: that's what you that's what you gotta play. 904 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 4: Well, let me let me try to sell you on 905 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 4: a total here you know that you're normally more of 906 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: a totals guy than me. But here's a trend I 907 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 4: noticed in our action lab. So the total is at 908 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 4: thirty seven and a half. I love the under with 909 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 4: Taysom Hill. Kaysom Hill unders are six in the one 910 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 4: in a lifetime when he starts because they're running the ball, 911 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 4: they're two in the Clock's not happening now, no Taysom Hill. 912 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 3: So I was like, great, the unders. 913 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: Out, except the in our action labs two thousand and 914 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 4: three primetime games where the total is between thirty seven 915 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 4: and forty, that's a very low number. So they're set 916 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 4: in the total low knowing we're not getting much scoring 917 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: even when it's that low. Primetime games, the under is 918 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 4: sixty thirty nine and three since two thousand and three, 919 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 4: so sixty one percent of time hitting the under. I 920 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 4: like the under here because it's not just that the 921 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 4: Saints might struggle scoring. I'm not that much afraid of 922 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 4: the Dolphins offense. The Saints defense has. 923 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 3: Been very good. 924 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: They just shut out Tom Brady a week ago. We 925 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 4: saw that the Saints have been number four DVA defense 926 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: on the season, number one against the run, number six 927 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 4: against the pass. So I like the under, and if 928 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 4: you're hoping for the Saints to win, I think that's 929 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 4: the formula something like we saw last week, just no 930 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 4: scoring and you hope that you eke out like a 931 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 4: twelve to nine win or something weird like that. But 932 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 4: I like the under here. What do you think about 933 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 4: the under? 934 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: I struggle with it just because the number is so low. 935 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: Look, we're looking at an under of thirty seven and 936 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: today NFL the way they're calling rough in the past 937 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: of pendies or pass it appearance. I can't go under 938 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 2: on a total that's that low. I wish you the best, 939 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: that's all I'm gonna say. 940 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 3: All right, well, I will take it. 941 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 4: By the way, if you do like the Saints here, 942 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 4: I think your angle is not just a Saints cover 943 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 4: or money line. If you like New Orleans here to win, 944 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 4: I think you play them to make the playoffs. 945 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 3: New Orleans still plays. I think they got. 946 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 4: Carolina and Atlanta after this one pretty soft schedule. Atlanta 947 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 4: is in the mix here, but not really. They're a 948 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: dead last in dbway. If the Saints get this win, 949 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 4: these teams are both seven and seven. You want to 950 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 4: be someone to seven in the NFC, not the AFC. 951 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 4: Miami's still got a tough road ahead. Miami's got to 952 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 4: play this game then at Tennessee and then New England, 953 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 4: so they're in trouble. If the Saints get this win 954 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: without a quarterback, we're you're home against the Panthers, you 955 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 4: go to Atlanta. The Saints might be a playoff team 956 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 4: and they get the win here. So I'm not on 957 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 4: it because I like the Dolphins. But if you do, 958 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 4: like New Orleans, I like playing them to make the playoffs. 959 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 4: I'll take the under. I'll take the Dolphins. I still 960 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 4: like the spot here for them. 961 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad. I'm not mad at that at all. 962 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 4: All right, let's hit our Week seventeen Hot Raid before 963 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 4: we get out of here. 964 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: Hot Rock, ice Rights, ice cream. 965 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 4: And of course it's a word of caution, be careful 966 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 4: with your hot reads. Don't be putting too many units 967 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: out here on these lines. Early we're seeing these last 968 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, all the COVID news guys coming and going. 969 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: I know I will be playing pretty cautiously. I'll probably 970 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: do half units on these, but there's still. 971 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 3: Some value early. 972 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: So we've got a couple of picks here, what's your 973 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: first hot rad for next week. 974 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Las Vegas Raiders. It's ugly. 975 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: They're getting plus none. Look, this coach team really hasn't 976 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: impressed me too much. I just think this is way 977 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: too many points. I think this should be around seven 978 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: and a half. So what non, I'm rolling with it. 979 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a high line. 980 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 4: The Colts have been very good, but you know, it's 981 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 4: hard to get much hard to get much more value 982 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 4: than the Colts are right now. Like we know that 983 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 4: their teams get over and play down these lines. And yeah, 984 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 4: it's a playoff possible game here. The Colts are not 985 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 4: necessarily in yet, they could still win the division. They 986 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: can miss entirely. And the Raiders are in the mix. 987 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 4: You know, the Raiders have been very unpredictable, so I 988 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 4: don't hate that one. I'm going back to the well 989 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 4: with like my seven hundredth time this season, I'm taking 990 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers in an underdog spot. It's Monday Night 991 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: next week, Browns at Steelers. Steelers I think should be 992 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 4: favored here. They were favored coming into the day and 993 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 4: then they were absolutely terrible against the Chiefs. That didn't 994 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 4: surprise me. The Steelers are not going to beat the 995 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 4: Chiefs in Kansas City. Kansasay is a way better team. 996 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: It's a bad spot, but Pittsburgh they just lay an egg. 997 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes it wasn't their day. Now it's a home underdog spot. 998 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 4: They went from minus one this morning to plus three 999 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 4: now at home. Mike Tomlin against the spread as an 1000 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 4: underdog after week five thirty five thirteen and a one 1001 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 4: against the spread. We keep saying that because it keeps hitting. 1002 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 4: And if you add in a home game home underdog 1003 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 4: week five or forward twelve, two and a one against 1004 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 4: the spread for Mike Tomlin, this is a great spot. 1005 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: Cleveland's not good. 1006 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 4: Like Cleveland ran the ball, they should be able to 1007 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 4: run a lot on Pittsburgh. It's scary, but Pittsburgh finds 1008 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 4: a way in these home underdog spots. Kevin Stefanski is 1009 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 4: one in nine against the spread in the division. I 1010 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 4: have to take the trends. I have to take the 1011 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,479 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh underdog spot here. 1012 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not mad at that at all. Like, 1013 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough. 1014 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, because they've been just getting outscored so 1015 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: much in the first half of these games. I don't 1016 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: really like either one of these teams, but you got 1017 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: an underdog. I can't be mad at that. My second pick, 1018 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: this is as square as it gets, but I'm taking 1019 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers minus thirteen against the New York Jets. 1020 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: This New York Jets team can't stop a nose blee. 1021 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: It probably should have lost to the Jaguars today dead 1022 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: last EPA for play on defense. This is not a 1023 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 2: team that you want to back, really under any circumstances. 1024 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: So we're taking the Buccaneers before this goes to fourteen 1025 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: and a half. 1026 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 3: I see that one. 1027 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 4: I would love to For my second pick, I'd love 1028 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 4: to take the Eagles here at Washington. However, again we're 1029 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 4: recording this during the Washington game, so we don't really 1030 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 4: know where that Lion's gonna set up, bill AFFI just 1031 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 4: played Washington on that weird short midweek game, dominated like 1032 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 4: more than double them yardage. I know Washington was missing 1033 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: a lot of guys, but I think it was a 1034 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 4: lot there. If you get that one at the field 1035 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 4: goal or less on the road. But since we don't 1036 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 4: know that one yet, I'll ugly it up with you 1037 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 4: and I'm going to take the Detroit Lions plus nine 1038 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 4: in Seattle. What are we do in giving Seattle nine 1039 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,479 Speaker 4: points at home? Come on, the Seahawks season is over. 1040 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 4: They're five and ten. Look at the last seven games 1041 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 4: of the season so far, last seven games, Seattle is 1042 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 4: two and five. They just lost at home to Matt 1043 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 4: Nagy and Nick Foles. They lost at home to that 1044 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 4: The Lions during those same seven games have either one 1045 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 4: or tied or lost by one store and all but 1046 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: one of them. The Lions are hanging around. They're not 1047 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 4: getting blown out. They're showing up and biting kneecaps, and 1048 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks kneecaps are ready for biting this. 1049 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 4: So I'll take the Lions plus nine. I can't believe 1050 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 4: we're getting so many points for Seattle here and this 1051 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 4: team is done. 1052 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this team is done. 1053 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm surprised they actually had to shut Russell Wilson down 1054 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 2: at this point. Truly shocking because they don't really have 1055 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: anything to play for. 1056 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. 1057 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 4: One might be Russell Wilson's last home game ever in Seattle, 1058 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 4: depending on how this offseason goes. So that does make 1059 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 4: me a little hesitant, But then again, weird things happen 1060 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 4: Seattle home games, so we'll see what. 1061 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 3: We get there. 1062 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 4: That is going to wrap it up today at the 1063 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 4: Action Network Podcast, Don't Forget if you haven't done so yet, 1064 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 4: to please rate and review the podcast. Not just an Apple, 1065 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 4: Spotify too. Spotify is now along that we can use 1066 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 4: your five stars there. Tucking rape On are back Wednesday 1067 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 4: with their NFL six pack betting guide. Raheem and I 1068 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 4: will run through the slate and look ahead ahead of 1069 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 4: New Year's weekend. Two weeks left of NFL football. We're 1070 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 4: getting close to playoffs here for Heim Palmer. I'm Brandon 1071 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 4: Anderson and this has been the Action Network Podcast. 1072 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 3: We're on to week seventeen.