1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. On a very brisk, forty three degree 6 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: morning here in Frisco, Texas. It is time for another 7 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys. Vicky will say, what's the temperature outside? 8 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: It's forty three inside? It feels like forty three to 9 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: you make except that's not raining in here. It's not 10 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and it's not raining outside now too. The sky is 11 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: beginning to clear, and we're finally getting through our bye 12 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: week blues, and it's almost time to start Giants Week. 13 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: But it is another day off of the players today, 14 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: because of course, the Cowboys play Monday night football this week, 15 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and so the actual workweek starts on a Thursday. But 16 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: there's so much to get to here on Talking Cowboys. 17 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Sorry I couldn't be here yesterday. I had some issues 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: with attire on the way in. And five hundred fifty 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: dollars and two tires later, I'm here and we're good 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: all okay, Yes, the cough button is off. This team 21 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: had all these days off and they need another one. Yeah, 22 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: what's up with that? When was the last time you 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: had five of the last six days off? That's every 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: day for Mickey, Mickey, Mickey's figure that out, right, Mickey, 25 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: do you need a CBA the collective bargaining agreement where 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: you can get five out of six days off? I do, okay, okay, 27 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: then I'm with you on that. Make you whatever you 28 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: need help on that, I'm with you, all right, very good? 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into what did not transpire on Tuesday, 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: because when you left the air three hours before trade 31 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: deadline time yesterday, things were starting to cook. There were 32 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: reports out there that things are happening. This could be 33 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the busiest trade deadline day in recent memory. Helped Jerry 34 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: sat on the radio. Anything is possible, anything that helps 35 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: fuel the fire. And then NFL network needs some viewers too, 36 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and so let's fuel them. Send some tweets out, let's go, 37 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: let's get on this. And what happened? Nothing, not a lot, 38 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: nothing here and I keep to lead went earlier in 39 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: the day. But that was Yeah, that's fun when you 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: can you know, we've seen this though, teams have kind 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: of and I was just going to ask this question, 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: We feel like that teams have a better management of 43 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the cap. It used to be a time when you 44 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: always were up against the cap and you couldn't make 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: trades and stuff like that. Do you think teams have 46 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: more cap space now which has allowed them the flexibility 47 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to think about making more trades Because we went like say, 48 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: eight ten years ago, where we weren't making any trade, 49 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean from the start of the season until the 50 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: trade deadline, and I think there's been like a hundred trades. Yeah, 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like player trades. Teams have 52 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: more space and more flexibility to do that. Plus teams 53 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: are also just given up on guys, you know. I 54 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: mean they're just saying, okay, fine, if you you know 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: you want this guy, sure. I mean, we thought he 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: was a building block piece two three years ago, but 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: he obviously he's not. So it started to look like 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: speaking of Baseball Game seven at night, there there are 59 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: more firesale type activity you're seeing from teams now. The 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Jets didn't trade everybody, but there was talk that, look, 61 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: they're out of it, they're rebuilding. They might be looking 62 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: to move some guys, and yeah, Brian's I was asking 63 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Mickey yesterday, why why is there more movement? Why? Why 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: do you think, so, Ryan, that could be it rookie 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: salary tracks aren't as massive as they used to be. 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they're just more movable. I don't know you had 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: you had another thought, Mick, right, Yeah. I think that's 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: the way teams have been structuring contracts. The signing bonuses 69 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: haven't been as high, and they've been putting roster bonuses 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: in there instead that are payable year by year by year. 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: And if those aren't guaranteed like the signing bonuses, then 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: trading a player's contract is more feasible because when you 73 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: trade a guy, the pro ration that's left over on 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: the signing bonus immediately escalates into your salary cap. So 75 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: the signing bonuses now have been lower and the roster 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: bonuses have been higher, and so now trading a guy 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: isn't as punitive against the salary cap as it had 78 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: been previously. And this has been the structure of contracts 79 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: these last two years. That's where they've gone to. So 80 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: I think that has a lot to do with it, 81 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: because if you trade a player with three years left 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: on his contract and say each of those years the 83 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: peroration is five million dollars. Immediately you get fifteen million 84 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: dollars sent in to your salary cap. But now with 85 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the way they do it with roster bonus, it's a 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: different story. So I think it makes it easier to 87 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: pull off trades and couple that with a healthy league 88 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: where you know, the salary cap is every year it's 89 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: going up by at least ten million dollars every year. 90 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Kind of feel like though that teams, like, you know, 91 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: trades or draft picks have always been like currency. Though, 92 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, do you still do you feel like though 93 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: that teams are kind of looking at that and saying, 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, if we can get a known 95 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: commodity right now that these picks, you know, these picks aren't. 96 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand using it as to get the picks, 97 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: but do you think teams are more willing to part 98 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: with you know, just talking about this organization, the fact 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: that they were willing to part with potentially another first 100 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: round pick in order to get a player. So do 101 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you feel like though that, hey, we understand what this 102 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: player is, we would rather have this player much like 103 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: what they did with the Maari Cooper last year. That's 104 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: where I was going. I think the age of the 105 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: player has a lot to do whether this team is 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: going to give up a first round pick. Yeah, I 107 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: think it's case by case, right, because they looked at 108 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Amari and they said, well, he's been in the league 109 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: a few years, but he's and hasn't reached his prime yet. 110 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: And okay, if we went and drafted a receiver who's 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty two, okay, that's not much younger, 112 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: and we know exactly what this young guy is like 113 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, and since compensatory picks are tradeable too, 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: that helps as far as more things that you can 115 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: throw at him in a trade. Sure, that helps U 116 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: facilitate a trade, all right, which takes us to you 117 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: know what I was gonna say, what Rob said about 118 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: the rookie salaries with the lower base salaries, and we 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: can take an instant from yesterday, am I it's okay 120 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: for me to say his name? Yeah? I think so. 121 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, yeah, going and Getty Boddy in trouble. 122 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I think we're past that. Jamal Adams base salaries for 123 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: this year with seven hundred and thirty five thousand, So 124 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: that's what you inherit base salary for next year was 125 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: going to be seven hundred six, six hundred and forty 126 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: five this year, seven hundred and thirty five next year, 127 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: and then you would have the ability to put the 128 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: fifth year option on them also, so you would have 129 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: two and a half seasons of control for very little money. 130 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: So with the rookie salaries, the way they're structuring those contracts, 131 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: you're just trading for basically a minimum wage salary. So 132 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: that makes it more feasible to make the trade. Now 133 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: what you give up is another story. But you know, 134 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Brian's right, you know, with the draft picks, if you 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: get a known commodity and you're sitting there going, well, 136 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: how am I doing in the draft? Yeah? You know, 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: un least you've got a may on what this guy 138 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: has done previously. See okay, just to talk about the 139 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: trade deadline and not so much about the Cowboys. Well, look, 140 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: with the stubbornness of the Redskins did for them, I 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: mean they could have got they could have held Cleveland 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: up for a first round pick for Trent Williams, and 143 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Trent Williams has passed. What Mickey was talking about. I mean, 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: he is a veteran player who has a pretty significant contract. 145 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: But you know, the Redskins said, no, we're gonna be 146 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: stubborn here and all that. And to me, that's where 147 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't quite understand organizations if you're willing to you know, 148 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: if a player is just adamant, and this day and age, 149 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: a player can come out and say I'm adam and 150 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: I'm not playing for you. Look what happened with the 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: guy go into the Rams, right, I mean, you know Ramsey, 152 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Ramsey back injury, birth of a child. Well, you know, 153 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: he was just everything. It was every week there was 154 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: something different, you know. And for them to get two 155 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: first round picks for somebody that didn't want to want 156 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: to be there, to me, that's that's smart. Now can 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: they do something with it. We've seen Cleveland in the 158 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: past take a bunch of picks and stuff like that 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: and not do anything to really help their team. You 160 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: have to be able to draft well. But I you know, 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: to me, I don't I don't understand how teams just 162 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: sit there and say we're just gonna hold on to 163 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: this player unless they just do not want to set 164 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: presidents of you know, of we're just not going to 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: have every player that's gonna bitch and moan get walk 166 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: his way out or trade his way out her or 167 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: talk his way out of it. Yeah, because the line 168 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: starts outside the door. Yeah, once you do one, and 169 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, I'd like to do it too. 170 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: And you see it more in the NBA because there's 171 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: a bigger gap between the halves and the have nots, 172 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Like teams are willing to just start over because we're 173 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: not anywhere close to a title contention. This guy doesn't 174 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: want to be here. We'll get some draft picks and 175 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: we'll continue to rebuild. In the NFL, I mean, you've 176 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: got more of an opportunity a year to year if 177 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: you want to hang onto a guy San Francisco, to 178 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: just hand there and we might be a better team 179 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: next year at more favorable schedule whatever. Which well, and 180 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: the Redskins knew Trent Williams was over a barrel because 181 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: he needed to show up if he wasn't gonna get 182 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, but he's not gonna play. Yeah, he 183 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: may not play, but yeah, I mean so where the 184 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Redskins there? We see, But that's the whole thing. The 185 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Redskins are not getting the players as let's see, it's 186 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: an hour, I mean, and at one o'clock we'll see 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: if you practices, he's not you know, think so now 188 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: why not? I thought that there's a report that he 189 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: was going to report right now. But I'm interested, I'm 190 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm following up. He's just showed up to because not 191 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: to lose that year, and he's not. In fact, I 192 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: think I saw a report earlier that he's not playing 193 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: in a practice or not playing to play well. But 194 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: then they'll just put him on reason and it's gonna 195 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: it's just the start of the story. Really. Yeah, see, Okay, 196 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: if he refuses then too. That's another there's my argument 197 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: about my argument, there's my once again belief of what 198 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Bruce Allen is doing in that team. You know, I mean, 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: if they're gonna have a new coach, you know, why 200 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: not go into this with you know, who knows what 201 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland's record's going to be? Ill I would tell you know, 202 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: if I have a player that's not you know, has 203 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: no intention of playing with me at all, then I mean, 204 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm the same way. But I want to just kind 205 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: of tie it into what Dallas. I mean, Dallas was 206 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, Dallas was committed to moving another first round pick. Yeah, 207 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm okay with that if that's if that's 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: what it takes to try and make your team a 209 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: little bit better, you know, to go out and get 210 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: a big time player by all means, do what you 211 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: have to do. Because it paid off last year, Sure 212 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: it did, and they're right firmly in the mix here 213 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, not next year. So yeah, and there's 214 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: a player like Nicky's talking about control for three years 215 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, two years good money and then 216 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and then a fifth year option and then the possibility 217 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: of extending him beyond that, what if you suffer a 218 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: catastrophic injury that you need that first round pick the 219 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: next year. Well, when they made the Cooper trade last year, 220 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I think Stephen and Jerry said that, you know, I 221 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: don't really see us doing this, making this a habit, 222 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: because they to Brian's point, they do value those picks 223 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: and they've been very been I have it though, Well 224 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: they've been very successful making those picks too, So I 225 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: understand that line of thinking. But you know, you're if 226 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: you try to go I'm gonna asked this the catastrophic injury. 227 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: What do we ask go ask Dave Campbell when he 228 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: loses Troy Aikman and they don't have the first round pick, 229 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: there's no question to get Yeah, nicky, but we were 230 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: terrible at our Joe, No, I know, but that doesn't matter. 231 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: We didn't do a good job then, but it doesn't matter. 232 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: You didn't have a first round pick. We didn't have 233 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: money have a first round pick when we were terrible. 234 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: We were terrible at our jobs. So I never know 235 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna come up though in the next nine weeks, 236 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: and the issue there was given up the two first 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: round picks. Yeah, because your first round pick could have 238 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: bone out of knee too, it had you lost another 239 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: player the guy brought his knee. We traded for right 240 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, he blew, but the first round pick 241 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: could have also, ye, and I gave up second first 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: round pick. I mean same with Roy Williams. It was 243 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the eighteenth pick and then the seventh overall pick. That's 244 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that's bad football right there. That's bad football. What you 245 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: love about the Cooper trade though last year, I know 246 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: it's panned out. It's hindsight, but at the time, what 247 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: was the glaring need. We probably would have been their 248 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: number one pick, most likely a wide receiver wide receiver, 249 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: and it helped you evaluate your young quarterback. Now you 250 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: can love you just think a habit of doing that, 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: because some point it's gonna bite you. I mean is 252 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: it would would a strong safety turn your season around 253 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: the way the wide receiver did. Mickey, I would go 254 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: on record, and I'll do it right now because I 255 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: was on with Nat and them yesterday. I would have 256 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: compared this too. And this is just me, Mickey, this 257 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: is just me. I would have compared that this going 258 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: out and getting a defensive player like this caliber of 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: a player to what you did offensively with Amari Cooper 260 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: because I'm banking on. I'm banking on to help my 261 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: defense from years to come. I feel good about my 262 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: inside linebackers Smith and vander esh and so now I'm 263 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: gonna try and put somebody behind them. I think all 264 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: really good defenses are really good up the middle. I 265 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: just think that good defensive teams Mickey always talks about 266 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: playing the run, which is exactly right. If you have 267 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: that ability to kind of control things in the middle, 268 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: it makes your defense even that much better. And I 269 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: would have taken a chance. I would have taken that 270 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: chance with moving A one to say, Okay, I'm going 271 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: to go get a guy that's going to help me 272 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in the middle, but also solidify what's going on with 273 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: as part of vander esh and Smith, and then I'll 274 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: try and fix, you know, I'll try and fix what's 275 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: going on at defensive tackle. So maybe without a first 276 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: round pick, I can't fix what Mickey wants me to 277 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: do at defensive tackle. But I understand his point. I 278 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: do understand this point. I was comparing it though to 279 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: this would be the defensive move of Amari Cooper. That's 280 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: how I was That's how I do and I understand 281 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, I'm just saying that getting that 282 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: player wouldn't turn four and three into eight and one 283 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: on the second half. It would not have that impact. 284 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Is it just turned three and five into seven and one? 285 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Is it the Is it the position, Mickey, or is 286 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: it the player? That's all I think. The position would 287 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: not have that big of an impact, even if you 288 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: had the best player in the league at that position. 289 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I just my point, yeah, and that's a fair point. 290 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: The thing I saw was when the Jets played the 291 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys who affected the game on the final play. Yeah, 292 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: that that's all. That's That's what I'm based in my 293 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: but and it's it, you know, where you got to 294 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: get a two point conversion and who they sent They 295 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: sent him on a blitz and then what happened the 296 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: next two weeks? They did not win, right, Yeah, I 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of that has to do with the 298 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: fact that their roster is not very good to begin with, 299 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: and the shame on the Cowboys for losing that game, 300 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: And you've pointed that out several times and rightfully. So 301 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, on that particular player, and that's 302 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: why I tied him into vander esh and Smith and 303 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: those guys, just to try and solidify you know, maybe 304 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe you maybe he makes that game changing play that 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: we saw him making the Jets game. Mickey's right, the 306 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Jets aren't good. They lose games, They have lost games. 307 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you could pin that all on on 308 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I think you could could could pin it 309 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: on a front office that was even considering about moving him. Well, 310 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: and the way I would look at it too, is 311 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the fact that you had two more years of control 312 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: for him. I mean yeah, I think he'd make an 313 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: impact this year. I don't know that it would have 314 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: been the same impact like what Mickey's saying this year. 315 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: That's fair to have it him going forward as a 316 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: cornerstone of that defense and maybe first career who knows. Yeah, 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: you know he's from here, all right. So so I 318 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: would have given up a first round pick. I would 319 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: have done the menk of Fitzpatrick deal, which was Dolphins 320 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: gave the Steelers Fitzpatrick and I think it was a 321 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: fifth and a six, six, and in return, the Steelers 322 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: gave up a first, a fourth, and a seventh, okay, 323 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: which is basically that that third day there's third day picks. 324 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: They're basically a wash, a fourth and a seventh or 325 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: a fifth and a sixth. Who cares, Yeah, you just 326 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: always just off your practice squad to Detroit, right, Yeah, exactly, ye, Mike. 327 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: And and on one of the big differences. Fitzpatrick was 328 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: a draft pick last year, eleventh pick of the draft 329 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: last year. Adams was the sixth pick the year before. 330 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you got even more control with Fitzpatrick. Now, 331 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Mickey's not wrong, because you do need somebody in that room. 332 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: It's going to say, okay, is is he going to 333 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: be that difference maker to counteract some guy like me 334 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: coming in there and saying, hey, we got to do 335 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: this steal, don't we don't we have to do the steal. 336 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Let me quickly add the Jets were not going to 337 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: take that deal either, obviously, No. And I don't think 338 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: they really wanted to trade, right. It didn't sound like 339 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: they were. Now, if I was trading that for Darren Woodson, 340 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: then I'd do it. See, And I think that's a 341 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: great I think that is a great example. I think 342 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is Darren Woodson. He can't cover in the slot. 343 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't even think. No. I think, not not so 344 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: much how he plays, but his impact. He impacts the game. 345 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Different fact that Darren Woodson makes to me, to me 346 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: that where he can coverage, Darren Woodson was a slot player, 347 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: no question about that. Darren Woodson at Arizona State was 348 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: a two hundred and twelve pound linebacker that played his 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: ass off. I mean, what a great player he was, 350 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: and what a great player in the NFL he was, 351 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. I think where you you 352 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: get similarities is the physicality which they played the tackling 353 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: ability which they played, the leadership that which the way 354 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: they play. You know, I think there's similarities there. I 355 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: think you're talking about a rare player. You know, there's 356 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: the rare players that played in this league. Gets safety 357 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: ed Reid. You would have never if we all sat 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: down and watched ed Reid's college tape together at Miami, 359 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: you would have said, what, he's a Hall of Fame player. 360 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see this. I mean, I can't 361 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: tell you how many times I had to point I 362 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: was responsible for pointing out where the players were with 363 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: a red with a laser, and Jerry would go where 364 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: is he? And I would three feet off the right 365 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: of the screen. I would point the dot there because 366 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: he was never in the screen. So yeah, you know, 367 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: I think there's evaluations of these guys. There's things, there's 368 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: things that Darren Woodson could do that nobody else could do. Right, 369 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: So I think that's a comparison in itself. That's kind 370 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: of a man You're comparing a guy that I think 371 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: is rare to a guy who I think has some 372 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: rare ability, you know, And Mickey's right, I mean, you know, 373 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: if you're if you're training if you're giving up a 374 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: first round pick for Darren Woodson. Absolutely, absolutely. It's just 375 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: interesting because they just haven't invested a ton in that 376 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: position for years. I mean, they had every guy on 377 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: the board at safety that you could have drafted in 378 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: this draft, with the exception of Abraham the kid from 379 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: Mississippi State who went to the Oakland Raiders in the 380 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: end of the first round, and so they had every 381 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to draft, uh, you know, all those guys, and 382 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: they they didn't. They drafted Tristan Hill, you know, it 383 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: was their guy. So uh, either there is a there's 384 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: a a thought about safeties. But again, if it's if 385 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: they were willing to trade for a first for this 386 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: type of a player, maybe I'm wrong making that Annaly. 387 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that observation. Yeah, I don't it's probably too 388 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: generalized to say, oh, they don't value that position. That's 389 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: not I mean, it's got to be a case by 390 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: case thing. I just said, they haven't spent high draft 391 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: picks there and they haven't spent a lot of money 392 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: there in general. The last few years. They found Xavier 393 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Woods in the sixth round and turned out to be 394 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: a nice you have to kick named Tony Dixon in 395 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: the second round from Alabama. Two. Yeah. Yeah, he was 396 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: right here at the start of yea kind you're sitting here, 397 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think he works for Freed to Lay, Okay, PepsiCo, 398 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Freed to Lay. I talked to him, saw him. Uh yeah. 399 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: You know. There's there's time where you just think, okay, 400 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: spend a pick on this, spend a pick on this, 401 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: and those guys don't work out. And maybe again, I 402 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: think this was if they were going after this guy, 403 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: it was going to be about they felt like that 404 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: he was a young enough guy the contract control, and 405 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: then also too that he is he is a good 406 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: enough player that he could have made a difference in 407 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: the secondary. All right, we need to take a break 408 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and we're going to take your phone calls here on 409 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: talking cowboys. When we come back in just a moment. 410 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: Your new apartment's big, such a great deal, that's okay, 411 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: just okay. What's not right above the subway? 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That is November ninth, Tostitos 449 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Championship plazas the Cowboys return home to play the Minnesota Vika. 450 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: A dramatic pause Like Mickey, I had the dramatic pause 451 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: because it said after the event, I was planning to 452 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: go to the next portion of the Senates and then 453 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: it said after the event festivities. I think it was 454 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: a pregnant pause, yes, dramatic. I asked Mick if he 455 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: was in that top two ranking for Madden. He said, no, 456 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: not this year, maybe next year. Have you played Madden? No? 457 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Have you? Have you played Madden? Occasional? Going on here occasionally. 458 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: I just love the idea of you know, can you 459 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: imagine if Madden would have come along when I was 460 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: in college, I would have never got a job. I 461 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: would have been playing Madden NonStop. Yeah, but you probably 462 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: would have earned a scholarship. That's right. That's just now 463 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be an NCA sport. Yea. And maybe 464 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: and maybe they can pay those guys too. They're getting 465 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: ready to that's right, to blow the entire sea. That's right. 466 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: If Earl Thomas had was in the same boat that 467 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is right now in his contract, at that 468 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: point in his career, two years left, at his age whatever. Okay, 469 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: would you what would you have given up for Earl Thomas? 470 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Talking about safety's impacts? Safety? Okay, So Earl Thomas is 471 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: in his seconds, his third years, third year, so he would, 472 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: and he would have two years left control left. Yeah. Man, see, 473 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get called an lsu homer here because 474 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I think that Adams is a better was a better 475 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: player in college. I really do. So I'm gonna get 476 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: called lsu homer there. Now they're different players. There are 477 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: different players, and one of them. I mean they are. 478 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: But and I bring that up because Chris Richard is 479 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: we got a field trip going. Yes, we do. Distractable 480 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: player over here, A not very distracts right there for you. 481 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: But look at the TV screen there can the people 482 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: that are listening and watching, there is a field trip 483 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: coming through behind the curtains over there. I would you're 484 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: a distractable player, Mickey. You know what I think. I 485 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: think he's still with Earl Thomas. I think you absolutely 486 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: have to consider giving a one. Absolutely Earl Thomas is 487 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: a free safety, I'd do it. Yeah, Okay, there you go. 488 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: Not a strong So that was that's the difference. It's 489 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: the free safety over the strong safety. Yes, okay, are 490 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: you good? The value of the position, I mean so 491 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: wait okay, now now now I get some clarification here. 492 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go. So a free safety, you if 493 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: if if Adams was a free safety, you would have 494 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: given that. I would have considered it a lot stronger 495 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: than a strong safety who I cannot put in the 496 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: slot and help out in Nickel's situations covering somebody because 497 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: he's not a cover guy. Is this like our argument 498 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: about guards. I was getting ready to point that out 499 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: until I remembered they used a first up Zach Martina. 500 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: I just wondered, No, I mean, and I understand what 501 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: you're saying, Mickey, but I mean I and that's a 502 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: rare move rights. And that's the guard that's in the 503 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: first round. That's my point when we talk about, okay, 504 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: a safety or a guard or whatever, it's the player 505 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: who's the player that's that's what kind of impact is 506 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: that player have. That's kind of where I've I've that's 507 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: where I've always felt like because the argument we had 508 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: about paying Zeke and people were saying, you don't pay 509 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: a running back, and I felt everybody on this panel 510 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: made a really passionate plea for why you do, Because 511 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: it's about the player. Yeah, it's not about the SS 512 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: behind his name or the FB or the you know WR, 513 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: It's not about that. It's about to me. It's about 514 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: can the player is as one of the eleven? Can 515 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: he be a difference mate? But let's let's remember if 516 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: it had come down to a choice between Ryan Shazier 517 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: and Zach Martin, they would have taken Shazier. That was 518 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: that draft. That is very true. They didn't take Manzel's 519 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: that was very grateful. Yeah, but that so the linebacker 520 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: or a guard. They would have taken the linebacker. Yeah, 521 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: well because why because of the position or because they 522 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: was rated higher? He was rated higher, one that's hit higher. Yeah, 523 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: and I was spot I was going to shift the 524 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: conversation to, Okay, well do we know draft show talk 525 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: to I know it's early man ahead, Do we know 526 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: what this team's still be there? Do we know what 527 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: this team's composition would be at this point? Is it? 528 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: Is it glaring? And they they've got a lot of 529 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: prospective free agents coming up next year? I don't think 530 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: we know that, And it really doesn't matter because it 531 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: comes down to ultimately, who's the best player that's available 532 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: to them wherever they pick next April? Is there a 533 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: strange team? They're two best players are probably positions you 534 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: would not draft a high A guard and a running back. 535 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: I'd agree pound for pound, those are your two best players. 536 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: Well think about this, so your wide receivers in there, 537 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: of course, but I mean receiver. Let me get you know, 538 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: what if what if you lose two cornerbacks? Would you 539 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: take a safety over a cornerback? Byron Jones is going 540 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: to be a free agent. Anthony Brown's going to be 541 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: a free That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of decisions. 542 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: My point is from a from a need standpoint, because 543 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about what's their biggest need. It could be cornerback, right, 544 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: it depending on what you just lost the guy. Yeah, 545 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: how well do we all feel about Jordan Lewis playing Lewis? Yeah, 546 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: I can change your mind after this year. Yeah, Jordan 547 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Lewis can maybe change your mind in nine games? Okay maybe? 548 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Then who's your third you don't have one? Well, this 549 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: is this is where yeah, and you don't have a 550 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: you know in Byron Jones, Jordan Lewis going to step 551 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: into his shoes. I don't know. Okay, what position would 552 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: you draft first? Then? Is that what you're trying to say? 553 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about a glaring need for Yeah, 554 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: next year going out there, I just throw out cornerback. 555 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: So what if you need a cornerback and you used 556 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: your first on a safety? My starting cornerback, Yeah, my 557 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: starting cornerback, My left starting cornerback is a is a two. 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: My my nickel corner was a sixth? Is that brown 559 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: six had to perdue? Yeah? Right right? And then his 560 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: backup it was a third out of Michigan, right correct? 561 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, kind of working that way. But here's are 562 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: the starters a first? Yeah? My but my starter who 563 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: was moved from safety to corner that's corner to safety 564 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: to corner. Yeah. Yeah. Do you trust them maybe to 565 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: address that position if need be beyond the first round? 566 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: You think they can do? I mean I don't. I 567 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: haven't looked in Okay, I don't class. Is Tristan Hill 568 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: scaring me? Now? Is Tristan Hill scaring me? So? What? Yeah? 569 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean you got Bennett for two years? Yeah if 570 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: you want, if you want him seven million next year? Yeah, 571 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: because Malak Collins is a free agent, I mean I 572 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: want to I want to get I want to give 573 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: Will McClay and those guys a lot of credit for drafting, 574 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: because this roster is pretty good. The announce of tackle 575 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: or a safety. Three techniques. Well, they told you last 576 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: year they carried damn about nothing about that safety because 577 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: at fifty eight they had every one of them on 578 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: the board and they took a defensive tackle easier to 579 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: get a defensive tackle at fifty eight. That can going 580 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: to be a starter for you or I don't think 581 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: they liked any of those safeties. Yeah, which is you know, 582 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's you know that they thought. By the way, 583 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: they got that kid Jones from Green Bay on the 584 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: practice squad, Josh Jones, Josh Jones's he started games in 585 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I finally recognized who he is. Did you 586 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: push it out away at the salad bar or some 587 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: try to get that clam chowder here? And I don't 588 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: know that I've seen him in the locker and sitting 589 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: at his locker. Yeah, but they they haven't, they haven't 590 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: thought about even you know, he's and they and they 591 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: can't get they can't get the kid from A and 592 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: M on the field. And I don't think they're going 593 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: to get the kid on the field of May and Am. 594 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I think that they would go U. 595 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: They would go with the Thompson before they'd go with 596 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: the A and M. Kid. We had the same answer 597 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: there in the millback today. It's based on experience and 598 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: check out the milback. Yeah, yeah, Thompson showed them something 599 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: when Xavier was out. Yeah, Wilson, Wilson's I don't think. 600 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see Wilson and until we get 601 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: to Oxnard in twenty twenty, you know, unless there's an injury. Hey, 602 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: where are the Cowboys going this weekend? New Jersey, New Jersey. 603 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: It's close to New York. Let's go to James in 604 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: New York. Okay, I'm talking Cowboys. Where he's going Bill 605 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: in New York. That stated might as well be in Texas. 606 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: It's such a pain to get to her. Oh no, 607 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: but you know it's a lot easier. It's just it's 608 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: just such a different You guys have been there terrible, 609 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, thank thank God recently. Yeah, James, go ahead. Yeah, 610 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: I had two things. When one kind you guys kind 611 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: of touched on is bab Jamal Addison over here. We 612 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: got to talk about it. You know, I agree. I 613 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: mean he's not a cover safety, he's not palame at 614 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Read or Earl Thomas, So I mean it will help 615 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: out in the run game. But to me, the issue 616 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: is more of like the back end, which leads me, 617 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, my second questions kind of a schematic question. 618 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, broad us gonna help out with this. I'll try. 619 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, during the you know, the Jet game when 620 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: they got beat on the Robbie Anderson touchdown and a 621 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: similar play was run by Nelson Agilore even though it 622 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: wasn't caught. U My question is, have they changed or 623 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: looked or you know, done something in practice to not 624 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: put Jeff Heath in that position, because it seems to me, 625 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why they do this. He's he makes 626 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: his plays in the box. We don't agree with that. 627 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: You know, he put around the line of scrimmage, you know, um, 628 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: and seems like Woods, who actually had a pick in 629 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: that game, should be the you know, you know, I 630 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't call him a ball hopping safety, but he played 631 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: them pass a little bit better had they worked on that, 632 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: because in this game, you know, you're going against Golden 633 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Tape and Slayton and you know Vernon, you know, a 634 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: tight end. You know, Giants got a pretty good passing game, 635 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: and you know Daniel Jones, although the rookie can throw 636 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: the ball. You know. That really worries me because teams 637 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: are going to exploit that until they figure out a 638 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: way to stop that. And I can't figure out why 639 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: they would do that. The heat, Yeah, you gotta answer 640 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: that with Mickey. Well, I know what they did on 641 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: that play, and they were both they they they flip 642 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: flop spots. Yeah, you know they were. Woods was back, 643 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: Heath was close. And then when the when they saw 644 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: where the running back went, Woods went and got him 645 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: and Heath backed up. And I still would like to 646 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: know what happened because Jordan Lewis was on the slot 647 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: receiver and then he'd let him go. Yeah, and he 648 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: kind of has Heath said, whoa, I got a guy 649 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: running wide open down, Yeah, and all you gotta do 650 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: is take two steps. And you saw what happened. Yeah. 651 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: And the other thing that happened on that play when 652 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: they were in that type of formation, a Woozier should 653 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: have backed off instead of being close in man coverage. Right, 654 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: So there was a couple of things that went wrong 655 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: on there. But unfortunately for Jeff Heath, he's the one 656 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: chasing the ball after Woozier gets beat and it looks 657 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: like well, it's his fault. Yeah, you know, let's him, 658 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: that's the easy he's the whipping boy. Yeah, I am, 659 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: and I would rather see Woods back there. Yeah. I 660 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: think that I think that we all would. I think 661 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: that they sometimes because of what they do scheme while 662 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: they try and create matchups where Okay, we're gonna match 663 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: you with this guy with this guy, with this guy 664 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: with this guy, and you know, Jeff Heath probably didn't 665 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: fit into with the way that the Jets, you know, 666 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: they had their tied end covered, you know, with somebody else. 667 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: So okay, let's drop Heath. Let's give them a different 668 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: look there, and again it bit him in the rear. Uh. 669 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: Mickey's explanation was absolutely right. I do agree with James's call, 670 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: right is that James, I do agree with him about 671 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Golden Tate, and I do agree with him about you know, 672 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: those receivers. This Darius Slayton, I think that I think 673 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: you also have to really consider this Daniel Jones move. 674 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I think has been really really good for the Giants. 675 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: I know it hasn't translated into wins, but you're in 676 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: a very similar situation to where you were with the 677 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: Jets game. Young quarterback not afraid to throw the football, 678 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: can throw it down the field has capable receivers, not 679 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: big time receivers, But I would worry about the jet 680 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: the Giants offensively, especially with that running back. Defensively, they 681 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: haven't done anything different. That's still going to be a 682 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: problem for them. But yeah, this game kid very well. 683 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: Hinge on how well Daniel Jones, and then how well 684 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: they're able to cover golden tap and then also Daris 685 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Slayton on those passes down the field. Let's get into 686 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: more of that in a moment. 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Two. 746 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: These reads are so different now that you know the backstory. Yes, 747 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a different it's a different 748 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: element now that you know the backstory. And that's why 749 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: the Reds are so unge. I'm gonna get I'm gonna 750 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: get hired to write their scripture. He didn't have to, boy, 751 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: he didn't have talking points on that one. And he 752 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: paused for two seconds there, like the hell he's going 753 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: to say? But I was getting ready to laugh before 754 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: I did. Now that you know that, Mickey just off 755 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: the top of his head. It's such a great thing. 756 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, let's go to Mike and Iowa here 757 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Hello Mike, Yeah, Hi, how's it going? Hi, Mike? Good? 758 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: Hey Micky. I'll make it quick. But I wanted you 759 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: to know that, Uh, it's been a while since I 760 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: went through my first opening game. First game, I made 761 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: it through the Dallas Me and my daughter made it 762 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: to the Dallas game. Sure, and that was my bucket 763 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: list and I and I was up for four days 764 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: and I had a really good time. I just wanted 765 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: you to know that finally made us there and stuff. Mickey, 766 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: way to go. But but here's my here's my questions, uh, 767 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: my two questions. My first question you were bringing up 768 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: about Jordan Lewis, do you think Jordan Lewis can cover Edelman, 769 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: the wide receiver on the Patriots? And my second question 770 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: is why isn't a Givon Austen in the slot like 771 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: Beasley was? Because I believe that Devon Austen could be open. 772 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: It was a quickness and speed and everything else. I'll 773 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: hang up and lift and see what you guys say. 774 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: But I have a good day, Thank you, all right, 775 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: Mike Jordan Lewis versus Julian Edelman. Mick looks puzzled by 776 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: these questions. I was puzzled. Yes, um, yeah, that'll that'll 777 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: be a nice matro punk. The thing about with Edelman 778 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: is you have to deal with that initial burst, that 779 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: quickness right off the line, because where he's going to 780 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: beat you as the first two or three steps, and 781 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: then once he beat you on the first two or 782 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: three steps, he's going to carry you through trash and 783 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So to cover a guy like that, 784 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: you how I think you have to get right on 785 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: top of him. You have to be physical with him. 786 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis can do. Jordan Lewis is very competitive too. 787 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: I would I give me the most competitive owner I've 788 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: got and put him on Edelman because Edelman is going 789 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: to frustrate you the way he plays. He might have 790 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: ten targets, he might make seven catches. But the thing 791 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: about him is you have to be physical with him. 792 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: You have to be able to kind of knock him around, 793 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: stay with him, don't get frustrated when he's running those 794 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: routes on him because he is one of the best 795 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: to ever play this game from that position and Tavon Austin. Oh, 796 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: he meant. Tavon Austin got Randall Cobb man in the 797 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: slot most of the time. I'll say it. Randall Cobb 798 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: played his ass off against the New York Giants the 799 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: last time in Week one. You go back and watch 800 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: the game, remember the play. He caught the ball in 801 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: the flat and stiff armed their cornerback. Who was at 802 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: it was Hamilton, Antonio. Hamilton stiff armed that guy like 803 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: four or five yards short from the sticks and was 804 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: able to get the first down. The game was kind 805 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: of like kind of kind of struggling along for the 806 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys are down seven nothing, and then he caught a 807 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: ball in the middle of the field that was behind him. 808 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: They got a first down, kind of got the offense going, 809 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, on the second possession of the game. So 810 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: I feel like though that to me, Austin, he's not 811 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: the same. He's not the reliability, that's the rafty guy inside. 812 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: He's more a top end speed. On the album, Cole 813 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: Beasley has spent his lifetime is NFL lifetime perfecting the 814 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: craft of yeah, running those right little option routes, a 815 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: little quick routes. Yeah, and now if Tavan has been 816 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: his entire career working on that. He could do that too, 817 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: but he hasn't credit Beasley for being it for mastering that. Yeah, absolutely, 818 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, and Tavan does other stuff. So yeah, to 819 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: answer this question, can do no problem playing Jordan Lewis on. 820 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: But like I said, there's what three games before they 821 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: even happened. We'll see it in a few weeks. Yeah, 822 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: Giants Minnesota Detroit and that one. So yeah, four weeks 823 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: you'll see that. You'll see that matchup. All right. That 824 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: does it for talking boys For this, Wins did a 825 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: long ready said we will talk at you again tomorrow 826 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: after a pregnant pause, sold a lot of product. This 827 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 828 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.