1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that 2 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: she has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing 3 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: and Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's given 4 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: me advice to many occasions in ocasion didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: not broke. You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs entrep 6 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: there as an industry decision makers. It's what he likes 7 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: to do, it's what he likes to share. Now it's 8 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Yes, 9 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: this is Rashan McDonald and you are listening to Money 10 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversation. It's my podcast. It's not a talk show. 11 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: It's my radio show. It's about entrepreneurship and it's about entertainment. 12 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: Listen up. I provide the consumer and business owner access 13 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and what they call industry decision makers. They, 14 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: in turn, my guests deliver information to the listeners, to 15 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: the viewers about career planning, motivation, financial literacy, and how 16 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: to lead a balance life. I finally got on the show, y'all. 17 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: It's been a hunt. It's been a ten month hunt, 18 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: but I finally got my next guest on the show. 19 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: She is an American comedian. That's what I went to Wikipedia. 20 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: That's what they said, American comedian. That's like, you know, wi, 21 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you know you got a Wikipedia intro when you say 22 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: American comedian, actress, this jockey, recording artist, producer, writing, writer, 23 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: and radio personality. Her career is on fire. If I've 24 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: been trying to get us since January, her career is 25 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: on fire. You may recognize as the character Tiffany from 26 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the popular HBO series Insecure or HBO stand up special 27 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I'll Be Knowing, or is the host of NBC stand 28 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: up comedy show Competition, Bringing the Funny. She is. She 29 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: has on the show today to talk about her new book, 30 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Small Doses. Got it in my hands right now, Potent 31 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Truth everyday use. The book engages in powers and enlightened 32 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: readers on how to find their truths whilst while still 33 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: finding the funny. Please, welcome to Money Making Conversations, Amanda 34 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Seals Hi, thanks for having me. Well, first of all, 35 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: what you're not gonna do to me? Amanda? It was 36 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: that little, that little low key personnel. I've read this book, 37 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I've seen you on stage, I gotta bring the fire 38 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: on my ship. Oh, it's the up it's the up story. 39 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: It's been the up story. Now let's talk about this 40 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: entire TV. Oh good, that means, it means you're you're 41 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: earning your money. And now we're gonna promote now this book. 42 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you first of all, out of 43 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: the blue. Let me just talk about how you came 44 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: into my life. Okay, And um, I always kind of 45 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: knew about you. People have told me. I keep my 46 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: hand my tentacles out there about who's funny. But I'm 47 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: always searching for the funny female. This has a story 48 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: to talk. And so I'm sitting at the house just 49 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: going through, scanning through and just scanning. I always go 50 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: to five O one on Direct five or one is 51 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: HBO For some reason, I always go to five o one. 52 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: So on this night, five O one boom, I see 53 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: a young lady on stage. She has just a little 54 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: interesting clothes. She has on like a little striped lines 55 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: going up and down, and you know, and she's only 56 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: has her hair pulled back, and and she has a 57 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: crowd and and she's laughing and funny. And he was like, 58 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: can we stick around and just listen to what she 59 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: has to say. Dynamic. Uh, always she does. She she 60 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: does jokes, would never even think of doing. That's always 61 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a testament that you're that you're doing something uniquely funny 62 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: and you're gifted. She she was doing humor that first 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of all was female human, So I would never do 64 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: some of the joke for a female driven but again 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: the direction of thought, I would never do. And so 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: I started trying to get her on my show money 67 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. So then Jessic Collins came up to my show. 68 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: He was promoting American Soul. Okay. During the middle of 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: his interview, I brought up your name Okay. And then 70 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: because at the end of the show, Jessic Collin's names 71 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: pops up Okay, So I knew here to connect with her. 72 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: So I suggested, I gotta get on my show Okay 73 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: with Sean, Okay with Sean nothing, nothing, nothing. So I'm 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: still on the search to get a man to seals 75 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: on myself. They all then all of a sudden, the 76 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: NBC competition show come out. I got people that know man, 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: NBC UNI. You know I'm a foller. I got people 78 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: in NBC UNI I called over there. I need to 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: get a man to seal over Sean, we've got your cover. Nothing. Nah, 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: finally a book come out. I should look, y'all. Amanda 81 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: Seals has a book coming out calls small doses, potent 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: truths for everyday. Use y'all. I'm fired people now. I'm 83 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: fired people now if I don't get a man on 84 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: my show. Just what if I knew I had to 85 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: threatening like that way back in January? We would need 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: to be having this conversation right now an welcome to 87 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: money making shall welcome to money making conversation. And I'm 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: your host, Roshan mcgohn. And how are you doing today, 89 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Miss over work, miss on fire, miss funny, how are 90 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm great? Thank you, Rosan. I'm glad 91 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: we finally made the copping. I didn't realize there was 92 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: such a journey. Glad. I mean, your persistence is I 93 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: just I really am flattered by it, So thank you. 94 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: What the thing about it is that it's it's when 95 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you see something special and you see something unique and 96 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: you see something groundbreaking. That's all those terms are associated 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: with you. Let's talk about their whole perspective on stand 98 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: up How did you get into being a stand up comic? Um? 99 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: In two thousand thirteen, I found myself at a cross roads, 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and I talked about this in the book UM, where 101 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: I really had like I've been the MTV me Jay, 102 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I've been uh pretty well known book and word poets. 103 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I had been hosting different shows and doing the radio, 104 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: and so I had a lot under my belt in 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: terms of the different trajectories, and it kind of gotten 106 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: confusing for people where folks just didn't know how to 107 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: classify me, and you know, we just living that we 108 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: live in a world when people want to be able 109 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: to like pip you in a particular space, and so 110 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: it was like I felt that people were essentially considering 111 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: if somebody who does a lot, which kind of ends 112 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: up translating to like you do nothing, And that was 113 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: really problematic for me. And it just felt like I 114 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the best economically with my time or my 115 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: money in the in continuing to go in that direction. 116 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: And so I started to consider like, Okay, well what 117 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: is the career that I want, you know, like if 118 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: if if if people can't find the label for me, 119 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: who do I feel like it's similar to me in 120 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: terms of their practice and in terms of their products 121 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and what is the label that they have. And so 122 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: when I started looking at folks Um, the people that 123 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: really rang true for me were people like Chris Rock, 124 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler, Allen de Generous, simply because not because we 125 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: share the same voice, but because they had managed to 126 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: create multimedia mobile guns based on their unique points of view. 127 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily based on them being producers or them 128 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: being writers or then being directors. No, it was specifically 129 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: based on first their point of view and then branching 130 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: out to do all of those things from that perspective. 131 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: And when I looked at all the things that they 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: were doing, writing, hosting, acting, the one thing they all 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: could do that I couldn't do with stand up comedy. 134 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: And so I realized in that in that exploration, in 135 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: that examination, that if I wanted to go into this 136 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: space that they were, if I wanted to achieve in 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: the way that they were, which is you know exactly 138 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted, I needed to I needed to add 139 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to stand up comedy to my repertoire, and it needed 140 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: to not be just like a plug and play. It 141 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: needed to be authentic, and I needed to be genuinely 142 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: good at it, and it was something I always knew 143 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: was within me, but I just kind of never had 144 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: really fully pursued it. And then once I put that 145 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: out into the universe, just like you, kind of just 146 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: manifested where. About six months later, um, I would ask 147 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: to be on the stand up show because the host 148 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: had thought I was already a stand up comedian. She 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: was a fan of mine from doing talking headstuff on 150 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: pH one. So I I, I just took the leap. 151 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: It was like you know, being caused at alt or 152 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: kind of situation, and I took the leap and I 153 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: did the show and it went well, thank goodness, and 154 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: so I stuck with it and and so I just 155 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: but I came up through the ranks and I didn't 156 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: skip sets. I may have spent them up, but I 157 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: didn't skip sets. You know. I took my I did 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: my my dudes terms open mics and I did open mics, 159 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: and I did my my kind of you know, struggling 160 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: on these showcases and having at bag and barter and 161 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: asked people to get on their cyminals and running around 162 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: New York all times the night in the cold, you know, 163 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: just trying to get five minutes here having to hang 164 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: out and hanging out, hanging out hoping that eventually they'll 165 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: get on stage. You know, maybe somebody will drop out, 166 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: or maybe somebody would keep, you know, cancel, or or 167 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: maybe somebody just um will be feeling benevolent that night 168 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: and say, hey, it's just wrong. And so I just 169 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: really liked dug in and and this thing that it 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: always been just found its tone. Well, you know, the 171 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: interesting thing about it is that I wanted you to 172 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: say that about your your your journey because of the 173 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: fact that let's let's always try to be honest in 174 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: the conversation what I'm talking to my guests, because you're 175 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: an attractive lady. And I've seen comedians or people who 176 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: want to be comedians they they see as a hook. Okay, 177 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I'm a struggling actor or actress 178 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: who can't get in the gig. So I'm gonna I'm 179 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: gonna try my handed stand up comedy and and and 180 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: it's so shortsighted. And that's why I wanted to, you know, 181 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: and I was very honest in my attempts to get 182 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: you on the show because I just saw so much 183 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: I saw a special brand of your style that I 184 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: knew it was. It was well crafted because you're a storyteller. 185 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: And so if you have not seen her stand up comment, 186 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: she's a storyteller. You know when she starts breaking down stories, 187 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: you know she she pulls you into it. Even in 188 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: her book, you know when she talked about different scenarios 189 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: that we're gonna get into the next break because I 190 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: read your book and I want to bring out certain 191 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: chapters in certain moments that I think I felt related 192 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: to me, you know, because of the fact that the 193 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: book that is empowering to everybody who wants to be 194 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: motivated to success. That's what my takeaway from the book 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: that she has written called small doses potent truths for 196 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: everyday use. And I've had to make a comparison of 197 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: her to anybody in the comedic field, it would be 198 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: a Whoopi Goldberg. But Whoopi Goldberg was not a stand 199 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: up comic. That's that's a big difference. But she was. 200 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: But she could tell the story and she would call 201 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: or craft a story that wasn't always what you expect 202 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: to be funny, but it turned out to be funny. 203 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: That's her skill level. But she's a stand up comic, 204 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and that gives her a step of both, which means 205 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: that she can turn it on. She can stand on 206 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: the corner and make you laugh for as long as 207 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: she feels like it, and she can make money in it. 208 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: That's why I did stand up. We'll be right back 209 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: with more my girl. She's on my show, A Man 210 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: to Seal, small doses, potent truths. You can buy that 211 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: for everyday use. You can buy that in the stores today. 212 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: We'll be right back to hear some of that, some 213 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: little juicy parts that I pulled out of the book. Hi, 214 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: this is ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making 215 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: conversations on the show. Um, she's been because she's on fire. 216 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate to have her own money making conversations. She's 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: on the phone. Amanda Sales. Amanda. UM. We we talked 218 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: about your journey. We talked about I believe you said 219 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: twenties thirt team when you made a decision to, uh say, 220 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: you know some stand up comic. I want to do it. 221 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I've been people have told me I'm funny. That's how 222 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: usually you get in the stand up comic people you 223 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: find you need to you sure, you don't tell jokes 224 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: for a living people. That's how you kind of get 225 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: into being a stand up come. You just don't suddenly 226 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: wake up and just start telling jokes. People have kind 227 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: of you. You know how to hold an audience, usually 228 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: your friends. Usually you're able to make your friends just 229 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: laugh because you know the little, the little trigger points 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: of your friends. You know certain certain character flaws they have, 231 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: so you know how to push that button to make 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: them laugh. The hard part about being a stand up 233 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: comic is that you're in the room full of strangers 234 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know what day they had, you know 235 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: where they came from. You don't know if they're hungry, 236 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you know if they're running late. You don't know if 237 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to even be there watching you on stage. 238 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: And so to be a successful stand up comic, you 239 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: have to weave a story or relate sable story and 240 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: be confident at it because that does mean every joke 241 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: that you say is going to go over big. And 242 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,359 Speaker 1: I always tell people, when you're looking at the room, 243 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: you start from the back and built to the front, 244 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: because in front of the artist you got, it's the 245 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: back of the room that you gotta win. Up first, 246 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and when and if you win the back and and 247 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: that's even bigger when you start getting into arenas two thousand, 248 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: three thousand, ten thousand, I've I've been front of twenty 249 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: thou people. You have to go way upstairs and make 250 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: sure to acknowledge those people upstairs. Because you ignore those people, 251 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: they can turn your old home, your whole show left 252 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: or right, and you can never gain control of it. 253 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: When I look at when I looked at your special 254 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: on HBO, I saw I started storytellers. Tell us about 255 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: that whole concept of how you are so confident to 256 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: tell stories when you're on stage. M hm um. It's 257 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: interesting that you say that because I used to run 258 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: from that in my comedy. Originally, I used to feel 259 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: like it was like I was almost like just telling stories. 260 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: And I think in hindsight that was because it was 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: so easy for me to tell stories that I thought 262 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: maybe like this ain't the thing, And it took other 263 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: comics to tell me like like what are you talking about? No, 264 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: because I think sometimes too, it's like, you know, you 265 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: look at other like companies just have some of these styles, 266 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: right you fo folks that are very like punchline comics 267 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: was they very set up punch hit, you know, and 268 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: then even within like the traditional black comedy rooms, like 269 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you're sexy to have a joke every well second absolutely 270 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: fifty seconds second out yes, And so for me it 271 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: was like, well than you know, my style is kind 272 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: of it's a little bit more, uh, like I gotta 273 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: chicking on a journey, and I need to get the 274 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: audience a run with me on that journey. And it 275 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: felt like I just wasn't. It felt like I needed 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: to do more in order to do that than I 277 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: was already doing. And so I just took my fellow 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: in comics to like recognize in me and like tell me, like, no, 279 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: it's not that, it's just that you need to find 280 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: those punts in your story. Like it's not that you 281 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: need to not tell the stories. It's just those prints 282 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: are in your stories, and you do it with already 283 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: even thinking, so imagine when you're actually thinking about it. 284 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: And so now like in terms of telling story, like, um, 285 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm the person that you can come to like, Okay, 286 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: where's the funny in this story? You know? And like 287 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: I have friends and will bring me their scripts who 288 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: are not necessarily you know, they're funny, but they're not 289 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: necessarily comedian, you know, and I'll be able to look 290 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: at their scripts and be like, no, I see right here, 291 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: there's a joke. Yes see right here, there's a joke 292 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: right here. And I know that from me developing my 293 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: confidence in being able to tell stories that are not 294 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: only a longer joke that's going to land, but that 295 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: have jokes within throughout the throughout the past that I 296 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed talking you because you you know a lot of 297 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: people understand this about stand ups is that we're just 298 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: keen observers and we just see stuff and then we 299 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: was to you bend it. The whole key to a 300 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: really good joke is how far can you bend the 301 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: reality of that joke? And when you've been the reality 302 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: of that joke, that's gonna be responsed of what you're 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna get back. Now. The reason that reason she's she's 304 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: different from me. She's a she's a story teller. I 305 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: was kind of like a kind of close to her, 306 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: but I was afraid of silence. I had to get 307 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: to that seconds fast. That's why she's That's why she 308 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: could act. She she's an actress. And when you have 309 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: the mentality of the actors. You understand there's a scene 310 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: and so so she's an actress at a stand up comedian, 311 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: so she has both gifts master So I couldn't act, 312 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: So all I to do with jelly jokes because I 313 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: wasn't if I could be, if I could act, I 314 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: probably hung hungting longer for this the telling other stories. 315 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: And so it was a couple of quotes that it 316 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: was one quote when I was reading your book, the 317 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: book we're discussing this, and I'm interviewing a man that 318 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: sales her book a small doses potent truths for everyday use. 319 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: That really got to me. It was, I'm gonna read 320 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: a quote to you. I no longer a dressed based 321 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: on how I want folks to see me, but how 322 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to see myself as art. Elevate the vibrance 323 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: in the room, and that and that and that. That 324 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: whole reference to you came from the person who's styling you, 325 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: because you didn't understand where they were coming with these clothes, 326 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: and they go on your clothes and they walk out 327 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: with this look that you would have never figured out. 328 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: And I felt that that's how I I dressed for 329 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: rijand mcgonald. I don't. I don't know how you if 330 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: you compliment me, cool, but this is how I felt 331 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: like walking out of the house today. Work with that. Okay, 332 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Now I know where mirrors are, so I know how 333 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: to look in the mirror whore I leave, so I 334 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: know it's not crazy. But this is how I look. 335 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: And so when I read that quote, it hits so 336 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: harme with me because of the fact that so many 337 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: people are trying to be or look like something that 338 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: they really aren't or what people expect them to be. 339 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: But now you Amanda or who you are, and you're 340 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: proud of it and you're confident in that step. Correct. Yeah, 341 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think so much of that, And just 342 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: like maturity, you know, and growth, and just like time, 343 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: this just taking time to explore my heart, to explore myself, 344 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: to explore how the two intertwine. UM, And I think 345 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: a lot of us don't necessarily start to do that 346 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: because we're really so ambition driven and it can feel 347 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: like if I'm not consistently driving towards the goal, UM, 348 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: that I'm like being lazy or I'm not on point, 349 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: or I'm not focused. And then sometimes but you kind 350 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: of realize at a certain point, like me looking inwards 351 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: is also me driving towards the goal, right, And I 352 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: think a lot of us like continue to look outwards 353 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: and so like when it comes to style and when 354 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the kings to like me to developed in my style 355 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: and howing to really like learn how to just stand 356 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: there and life. I'm not I'm not trying to get 357 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: people to think a certain thing about me anymore. That 358 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: actually does scare people, by the way, when people feel 359 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: like you're not trying to gain their favors, it does. 360 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: It really does bother people. Like I know, it really 361 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: bothers people that I am so unwavering about certain things 362 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: that I really don't care about their opinions, you know, 363 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: And so it makes folks feel like they don't matter. 364 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: You'd have to say that they don't matter. It's just 365 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: to say that their insight and their input has to 366 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: be earned. You had to be hard to date, well, 367 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: you were hard to date your guys. You guys struggle 368 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: with that with that personality that you know that trying 369 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to figure you out with a smart, independent woman who 370 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: knows herselves, and they've been looking to be lead and guided. 371 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't I love. I love her. I love her. 372 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's it what you're referring to, I'm 373 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: hard to every I'm hard to anybody who doesn't understand 374 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: how to be secure in themselves at the same time 375 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: as being selfless to someone else. And that's that that's you, 376 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: and that's that's the point. That's what I see on stage, 377 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: that's what I see. Come and tell you something. Six 378 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: years for roughly six years, that path and this journey 379 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: that you've achieved as a stand up in six years, 380 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Thank you, and I and I 381 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: am I am so like appreciated that just I mean, 382 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: it's in in stand up time, it's a meteor crackt 383 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: absolutely like because standard time is much longer. Like, for 384 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, like, I am very aware and 385 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I do not take it for granted there at all, 386 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: that I've been so blessed in stand up so quickly. 387 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is because by the 388 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: time I got to stand up, I had already developed 389 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: my voice. I was already comfortable with the stage and 390 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: with the mic. So a lot of times like that's 391 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: a big part of your development as a standard you know, 392 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: just being able to be comfortable on stage, being able 393 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: to know how to feel a crowd. And because of 394 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: my years hosting and d Jays already had that stage 395 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: presence built in. Yeah, and that's really key when you 396 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: walk on the stage and you were able to examine 397 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: the crowd. And that's really key when you work on 398 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: the stage not bothered by the lights that can that 399 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: can uh block and you united nothing to intimidates you. 400 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: That stage president is the key to how fast you 401 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: would rise as a stand up if you're not a 402 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: gimmick act. Now, if you're a gimmick and you got 403 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: some little character you're trying to pull off, No, she's 404 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: going on stage being herself when she walks on stage. 405 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: I love. I like to believe the person I saw 406 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: telling little jokes is the person I'm gonna say hello 407 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: when I walk on stage, and that that ability to 408 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: be able to do that as fast as she's done 409 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: it is phenomenal. It's really impressive. It's a very funny book, Amanda. 410 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I I hope I can get you 411 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: back on the show. I'm running out of time. I 412 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: wanted to break down very I got so many pages 413 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: folded in this book, you know, like like I know you, 414 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: you got a lot of answers. Now, that's why I can't. 415 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: That's why I can't. That's why I can't go in 416 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: just like white people stop doing this, Black people stop 417 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: doing this. Friends need to keep the dry. You know. 418 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: It's uh the story about the guy who took you 419 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: to the hotel room and you know, and and and 420 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: you woke up and you knew y'all had had sex, 421 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: and he didn't talk to you for a couple of 422 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: weeks and then you text him. Didn't he had the attitude. 423 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: It's so many great stories in this book that I 424 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about it. First of all, 425 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate that you really read this. Thank 426 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: you well. I read the book because guess what your talent. 427 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: And it's a book. It's funny, it's it's a it's 428 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: a book like I've never read. I've been fortunate in 429 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: my life to have taken books to number one. I've 430 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: been fortunate my life to read books on the regular 431 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: basis on my show Money Making Conversation for the last 432 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: two years. This is a must read. It's a it's 433 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: a colorful book, it has has graphics, and it's a 434 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: book like it's pages of pink, pages are brown. It's 435 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: a book that you cannot go to a restaurant and 436 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: read it. You have to read it in your house 437 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: and enjoyed. And It's daylight is funny. But more importantly, 438 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: you keep winning a man that thank you for taking 439 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: the time to do my show. Know that Rashan McDonald 440 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: is a fan of yours. If you ever want to 441 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: promote anything, come back on the show, send me a 442 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: social media post and I will support you that. So 443 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: I just really appreciate you and thank you again for 444 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: working so hard. They're bringing me to the show and 445 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: really stick a way because I mean that that that 446 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: is noteworthy in itself, So thank you again. Better and 447 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: keeping that that that that sole sister that tells the truth. Okay,