WEBVTT - Ep. 42: Googans, Influencers, and Sages

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<v Speaker 1>The qualified Captain is about to get a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more content post. You just rinse that barking basement spinner

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<v Speaker 1>bait that you stole from your grandpa, and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how much better the fishing was yesterday. Think about Swazie

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<v Speaker 1>was not whooping ass in roadhouse on the asphalt outside

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<v Speaker 1>the Hooters. Johnny Cash was not kicking in a fighting

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<v Speaker 1>in the mud and blood and the beer on the

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<v Speaker 1>pavement outside of Houla hands instantaneous pressure changes equivalent to

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<v Speaker 1>your body dropping six thousand feet under the ocean and

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<v Speaker 1>back to sea level and a meda second. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>degenerate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that's

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<v Speaker 1>ready for summer, but not the uptick of Ask Clowns,

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<v Speaker 1>Google's jet Skiers, White Claw Shugars and Tito's Sluggers that

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<v Speaker 1>will be showing up at the ramp. I'm Joe, Sir

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<v Speaker 1>Melie A. Miles Nulty and uh it's it's a memorially

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<v Speaker 1>weekend mm hm, the unofficial the unofficial start of summer,

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<v Speaker 1>or or as I prefer to call it, three straight

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<v Speaker 1>months of amateur hour. That's that that's an apt description.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say though, that I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>mixed feelings about the holiday. Memorial Day weekend has changed

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<v Speaker 1>for me over time and with age. I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>probably has for you too. Yeah yeah, all right, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of before before we go do far down this road.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I like start telling you my thoughts and associations,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask, are you is the whole purpose here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to set up like a nostalgic let's

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<v Speaker 1>wap stories about how great moral the weekend fishing used

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<v Speaker 1>to be back when we were single kind of deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is that where you're going today? Well? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that yes, that's yeah, back as you go first, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, I was going to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the before times as I call them, the pre kid

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<v Speaker 1>days and Memorial Day weekend. Back then that was my

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<v Speaker 1>striper nest weekend. Like I slept in the cutty cabin

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<v Speaker 1>a mild boat all weekend, which smelled like ass. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was. It was a terrible and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a toxic environment, but I mean, you don't care in

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<v Speaker 1>your twenty five and and and just had like a

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<v Speaker 1>revolving door of friends that would roll in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the marina all weekend and we go just pound

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<v Speaker 1>the cows, and nowadays I just want to sit at

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<v Speaker 1>my in law's beach house, not deal with any of

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<v Speaker 1>the on the water madness, and just like drink gin

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<v Speaker 1>and tonics, perhaps a mohito. That's that's where I've That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I've gone. Uh, I guess I'm apologizing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really apologizing. I'm just gonna say I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>follow you. I can't go down this rose tinted memory

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<v Speaker 1>lane with you because I don't. I don't have it right.

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<v Speaker 1>We we have in the past, like we've had segments before,

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<v Speaker 1>we swapped stories about single glory days, but but for

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<v Speaker 1>this one, I don't. I can't. I got none. I

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<v Speaker 1>associate this holiday with the end of fun and the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of just work. Right because most of my adult life,

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend marked the official sort of NonStop guiding. It

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<v Speaker 1>meant that it meant that that was right, and and

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<v Speaker 1>that it meant the rivers We're gonna get crowded. The

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<v Speaker 1>fishing was just gonna steadily get worse, like from here

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<v Speaker 1>on out for the next few months, the fishing was

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get poorer, and I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>working basically every day until September, so I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the warm and fuzzies on this holiday. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not I enjoyed my Memorial Days was was

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<v Speaker 1>usually dictated by the quantity of tips that I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to hustle, which is cynical and and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shitty considering what this holiday is supposed to celebrate. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just being honest, that's the truth. Mhm, Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one way to completely ruin intro. I'm just completely Yet

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<v Speaker 1>you knew exactly where I was trying to take this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you I mean, I'm just gonna throw out there,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, my person, you could have played along.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what killed you? To play a lot? I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been lying. That would have been do you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to lie to the people? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them lies? I'm not gonna lie. No. But you

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<v Speaker 1>could have taken it like a more positive and you

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<v Speaker 1>could have been like, yeah, four, I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>water every day with my clients, driving all over the state,

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<v Speaker 1>chasing hatches, sleeping in trust. Those things are all technically true.

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<v Speaker 1>I did those right, so you could have followed. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have followed the spirit of my intro, which would

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<v Speaker 1>have set me up to talk about how different last

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<v Speaker 1>year's holiday was, which I'm gonna do anyway despite your

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<v Speaker 1>unwillingness to follow, because like that's that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to pivot. So I was gonna get into was

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<v Speaker 1>how last Memorial Day. Frankly, it was creepy, right because

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<v Speaker 1>we were in the thick of the pandemic and the

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<v Speaker 1>beach vibes were it was very strange, like like the

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors barely said hello. Everyone was really on guard. It

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt like you were breaking the rules by going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Jersey Shore that weekend. Um, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a far cry from the usual party atmosphere you get

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, which I think I expect that atmosphere to

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<v Speaker 1>be back this year just because of where we are

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<v Speaker 1>and how many people are vaccinated and so on. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, as creepy as it was last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it also meant there weren't that many people around right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at night, because nothing was really open um, which man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had some really choice like high traffic striper spots

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<v Speaker 1>to myself and I pounded some fish around some of

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<v Speaker 1>the bridges down there. So, um, you know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have my gear with me this weekend. I won't. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go to the Beach Memorial the weekend without fishing gear. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just say it depends what happens. I might.

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<v Speaker 1>I might run a few late night ops covert ops.

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<v Speaker 1>If the tides the line, You're gonna do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna do it. And I bet last year

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<v Speaker 1>you got some weird looks if anybody saw you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you were seeing as extra creepy, like sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>around at night when everybody else was hiding out. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>saw me. I mean literally, it was late enough, it

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<v Speaker 1>was foggy and strange, and there there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>another car even drove over the bridge in the hours

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<v Speaker 1>I was out and I looked over that bridge. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna go and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna walk up on the bridge and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look down and if I see what I want, I

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<v Speaker 1>will stay. And I remember peeking over that bridge and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a line of stripers in the shadow

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<v Speaker 1>line from one end of the bridge to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh, I remember. I have a vague memory

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<v Speaker 1>of you like sending me photos and catching a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stripers around this right around this time last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that you're being like, get you. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you said. You didn't say anything stupidly getting

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<v Speaker 1>on him. That's not what you would do. But you

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<v Speaker 1>just you sent me photos. You sent me photos showing

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<v Speaker 1>me evidence, and I was jealous. Uh, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to further mess up. I realized I've been stepping

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<v Speaker 1>on your whole plan. I don't want to mess it

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<v Speaker 1>up any anymore. So I'm guessing this is where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to ask you if you were pounding those

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<v Speaker 1>stripers with thirteen rods. Thank you you are, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was true story last mort of Day weekend was was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the first time I used their Omen Green Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Prototype X spinning reels. Those stripers, the aforementioned stripers I pounded,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we're I'm not kidding. They were a trial run

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<v Speaker 1>of the thirteen gear I just got in my hands on.

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<v Speaker 1>And since then, those very same sticks, right same exact gear,

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<v Speaker 1>have whipped a bunch more stripers Mahi and b side

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<v Speaker 1>bo Fens and so on. So those outfits, the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same ones, they are still kicking ass and taking names.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta say, I believe that I believe that because they

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<v Speaker 1>make really great stuff and we've established I'm I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not actually all that excited about Moral Day, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am genuinely excited to say that bent is officially

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by thirteen Fishing. Yes, we highly encourage,

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<v Speaker 1>highly encourage you to check out the fine selection of rods, reels,

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<v Speaker 1>and baits available at thirteen Fishing dot com. Use this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an opportunity, right, use it. Get out on the

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<v Speaker 1>water and figure out what gear you're missing or or

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<v Speaker 1>what gear needs to be replaced. But I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe don't be the guy rotting around with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of gear or maybe even a boat and trailer that

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea how to use. There will be

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of that happening this weekend already. Oh yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about that. I've always looked at it like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an unwritten rule that inept voters and anglers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they cannot partake in these activities until

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day weekend. I mean more support for why I

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<v Speaker 1>dislike it. I'm just saying I know, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend before Memorial Days. It's one week right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it might be just as beautiful a May weekend as

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day will be. But in my experience there are

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<v Speaker 1>are are fifty to seventy less mooks. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>be Memorial Day to bring them out. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is the season when the Qualified Captain is about to

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole lot more content. Oh wow? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>a social media A social media reference from Miles Nulty

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen? Good for people? I will admit I am

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<v Speaker 1>all in on the qualified Captain page. Oh yeah, not

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention, not to mention a couple of shout outs,

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<v Speaker 1>not to be outdone, Jerry of the day and Kuk slams.

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<v Speaker 1>I may not know anything about social media habits or algorithms,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do know that watching other people make fools

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves is highly entertaining for everyone, because we all

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<v Speaker 1>love feeling superior. It's basically, you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the modern version of America's Funniest Home Videos. Oh yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and that shows still on and now all they do

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<v Speaker 1>is grab stuff off social media. Like nobody sends the

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<v Speaker 1>vhsame because they don't exist anyway. But you know you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Fails drive views, um, and that's just as true for

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<v Speaker 1>phishing content as dad's like getting hit in the nuts

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<v Speaker 1>by their kids. You know, um, And what you you

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't know is that TikTok is the platform for

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<v Speaker 1>posting viral fishing fails. I am aware that this exists.

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard it brought up in meetings. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure everyone will be shocked and horrified to learn

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never been on tick. You've got you, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the TikTok. Dolci a. I'm not on there either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on TikTok either, But do you know who

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<v Speaker 1>is on TikTok? Sadly? I do? Hell yeah, you do. Buckling,

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<v Speaker 1>freshen up your axe bodies, pray, grab a monster tropical thunder,

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<v Speaker 1>and absorb the wisdom of Lance V. Here comes trolling

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<v Speaker 1>with Lance to the land, to the boats, to the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>to the sea, being up then on nets, but your

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<v Speaker 1>boy lands V. What's up, skid marks? It's me. The

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<v Speaker 1>Internet's most winning is fishing guru slash celebrities slash personal trainer.

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<v Speaker 1>Lance V back again to help your pathetic social media

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<v Speaker 1>efforts take above slightly mediocre. Oh and for all the

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<v Speaker 1>haters hoping I was done on the stumpster fire of

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. Sorry not sorry. Miles and Joe are still

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<v Speaker 1>stroking me checks among other things they've been stroking lately

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag I stroke you choke anyway. This week we have

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<v Speaker 1>a question from thirteen year old Helmet W who writes

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<v Speaker 1>dear Lance. I've been having a really hard time getting

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<v Speaker 1>anyone to pay attention to my parlor, Tumbler and Vibra accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time I tried to talk any advice

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<v Speaker 1>for getting your fishing videos noticed on this platform. Great question,

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<v Speaker 1>how though, And you're in luck because TikTok has a

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<v Speaker 1>cheat code. You ready, little buddy, Here's the secret campones

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, Hello No, matter what the you post on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>that ship will turn to instant gold if you said

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<v Speaker 1>it to oh no by capone hashtag take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the bank. Visionary anglers have been using compons oh no

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<v Speaker 1>to accentuate their fails and rack up views for months now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just recently, at Big Water Fishing used in the video

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<v Speaker 1>of himself and properly fighting a walleye through the ice

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<v Speaker 1>while sitting next to his shovel, and at Muscle Milk

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy used it to highlight what happens when you use

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<v Speaker 1>budget lip grippers on a big both in side note,

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<v Speaker 1>Muscle Milk Daddy might be the only listener to this

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<v Speaker 1>stupid show who has any real potential. But when most

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<v Speaker 1>people use a song, I just have to say, because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't use all the muscle milk at packs to

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<v Speaker 1>enhance their weak content. The truth is Hamilton's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever fail at fishing, but you and everyone else listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this lame podcast does, so. I suggest you harns

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<v Speaker 1>the power of oh No, squeeze every last drop of

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<v Speaker 1>its potency, and slather it all over the many videos

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<v Speaker 1>of you failing. Here's what I mean. You shoot a

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<v Speaker 1>video about your favorite passlord because that's what real g

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<v Speaker 1>influencers do, except on like us, you don't row pugs.

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<v Speaker 1>You just rinse that barkain basement spinner bait that you

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<v Speaker 1>stole from your grandpa and talk about how much better

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<v Speaker 1>the fishing was yesterday. So you shoot a video about

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<v Speaker 1>your new kayak, except everyone knows it's from Costco and

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<v Speaker 1>you won't make a thirty feet for the bank at

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<v Speaker 1>the County Park pond before you flip it. You try

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<v Speaker 1>to boost your steeds with a commenter giveaway, except all

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to sweeten the pot is a half use

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<v Speaker 1>pack of pink Lizards and the beer Cusy you got

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<v Speaker 1>free with your last purchase of Fresh Scuy. So you see, Helen,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok is the only platform that less losers like you

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the top because their algorithm is based solely

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<v Speaker 1>around the use of compounds. Oh no, of course Internet

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard's like me and the Coogan Squad. No, that algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually change. And since we know people on the

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<v Speaker 1>inside of TikTok, trust me when I say you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share from oh No to this in six to

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<v Speaker 1>eight months topic. That just confirmed every negative assumption I

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<v Speaker 1>have about TikTok. So we're good. I had no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any plans inside of it. Let's not pretendingly

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was just about to get on until

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that I wasn't. But uh, but if the

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<v Speaker 1>trick to the whole thing is just, you know, set

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<v Speaker 1>shitty videos to shitty music, I'm definitely out me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's funny, man. I consider mysel the door open.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't in this day and age, you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>close it out completely. I'm probably gonna eat some of

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<v Speaker 1>the words I'm about to say. But I consider myself

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<v Speaker 1>fairly up on social media platforms, right. But much like Snapchat,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok is another one where you bring it up and

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<v Speaker 1>I just go full old man mode. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand this, And I'm a Facebook like Aunt Florence,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's like my mom printing web pages to show

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<v Speaker 1>me things because sending a link doesn't compute, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like I saw this thing on bed, Bath and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why did you waste thinking paper? Mom, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sending me a link. Anyway. That's how I feel about TikTok, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's different or better than posting a short video

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram? Look, don't answer people like I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not looking to be schooled. Don't school me. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I will get on TikTok, like just when it's going

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<v Speaker 1>out of style. It'll be like, like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I did with Instagram. People like, ah, sermerely got on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>We're already way past that. We're doing this now. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I will not eat these words. I'm not gonna try.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot I cannot envision a future where I'm like TikTok. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really into this. Uh and and I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that the past few minutes it didn't make me want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on TikTok, but it did make me want

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<v Speaker 1>to just go down into my basement and and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Vinyl and read a hardcover book and drink something

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<v Speaker 1>very strong. Right, So so let's get away from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do let's do it. That's my bar and and

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<v Speaker 1>some for all you remember, this is the recurring segment

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<v Speaker 1>where you, the listeners, you hit us up and nominate

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite fishing bars. And we're doing God's work here,

0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>people are I don't think people realize the significance of

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<v Speaker 1>this segment. We are compiling the world's greatest database of

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<v Speaker 1>places to drink after you get off the water. All right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's all you people drinking right now. Pay attention. Oay.

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<v Speaker 1>And this particular one might come in handy if you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be in Connecticut and you're trying to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the inevitable circus that's happening on the water. Best God

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<v Speaker 1>damn bar tender from Tim buck to to Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>The Portland argument for that matter. Okay, so today on

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<v Speaker 1>that's my bar. We are not we are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to Wisconsin. Can you believe it? Their first time? For everything?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't really believe it. And before we continue,

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<v Speaker 1>although we're not going to Scannie today, Land Lakes continues

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<v Speaker 1>to reign supreme as the undisputed worldwide champ of fishing bars,

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<v Speaker 1>at least according to this show. It absolutely that said.

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<v Speaker 1>All that said, today we're featuring a state that I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually never set foot in much less I've no, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been there. I'm guessing I'm guessing you have, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you're familiar with this area, but I've never been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Connecticut. Yeah, no, I have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've spent some time in Connecticut, the a little

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<v Speaker 1>fishing up there, though somehow I missed, uh, this particular bar.

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<v Speaker 1>So today's submission comes to us from Steve Farley, and

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<v Speaker 1>ironically what resonated with me most were some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like peripheral comments that aren't even about this bar, just

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<v Speaker 1>good bars in general. Just understands. Yes, completely, Well, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what we mean. So let's get into it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve writes, Alright, fellas I've been holding off on my

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<v Speaker 1>bar recommendation because I recently relocated the northeast Pennsylvania from Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing this gem up brings back some old memories. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. The Black Duck Cafe was first recommended

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<v Speaker 1>to me by some new friends I met when I

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<v Speaker 1>moved from Buffalo, New York to Norwalk, Connecticut. I told

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<v Speaker 1>my friends I had only one condition for a bar,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be a dive I also happened to

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<v Speaker 1>love fishing, which they found out over time. Alas the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Duck Cafe pulling into the pulling into the gravel

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot set the scene for something I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>would enjoy, because, let's face it, no one has ever

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<v Speaker 1>gone to a dive bar that doesn't have a gravel

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot or a pothole city, as US East Coasters

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<v Speaker 1>refer to it. So there's the first comment. I had

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about it, right, But Steve is very correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Every good ship hole dive bar has a gravel parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like think about Swayzy was not whooping ass in

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<v Speaker 1>roadhouse on the ass fought outside the Hooters. Johnny Cash

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<v Speaker 1>was not kicking in a fighting in the mud and

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<v Speaker 1>blood and the beer on the pavement outside of Hula Hands.

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<v Speaker 1>So Steve nailed that part. Yeah, I'd call that accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that your point is valid and and

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<v Speaker 1>the Suaves and Cash references are not lost. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for those, But and I have I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have many favorite dive bars with gravel lots, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also have a few with hard pan lots. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think in general I agree, but not entirely. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that Steve brought into this without meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to that I gotta point out is is noticed how

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about bringing up this gem brought back old memories.

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<v Speaker 1>And another part of this segment and why we love

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<v Speaker 1>it is because we have these deep connections to our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite bars, even if we haven't been there a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to just think about them and reminisce about

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about them. It's fun to have that bar

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and Steve hit on that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if he was aware of it. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna continue on with what with with with Steve's

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<v Speaker 1>email here, Steve says the Black Duck is located on

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<v Speaker 1>the Saga Tuck River, or should I say in because

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<v Speaker 1>the bar is literally an old barge tavern from eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty that is sinking into the river, and Steve sent photos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it does quite literally appear to be sinking

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<v Speaker 1>and could potentially collapse into the river. Yet yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>got If you see the photos, you'll be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that doesn't look stable and oddly in of I

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<v Speaker 1>think I am I I think this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>bar we've featured that's actually a boat out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's weird that it took us this long to

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<v Speaker 1>get to one. But anyway, back to Steve, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>so if that wasn't enough to get you excited, the

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<v Speaker 1>bar also features old fishing caps, painted buoy's and lures

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<v Speaker 1>so fake it hurts, and a miniature boat above the

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<v Speaker 1>main bar, suspended by chains, as if walking into a

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<v Speaker 1>place that is at a degree angle toward the water

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<v Speaker 1>and might also sink at any minute wasn't enough. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a boat questionably dangling above your head. Great fun. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So based on Steve's photos, the whole place it just

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<v Speaker 1>looks unstable like it's it's a it's a charious I

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<v Speaker 1>would describe it as carrious. It's good word. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good word. It's a I would also say it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a it's just a giant lawsuit waiting to happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up the Black Duck and their menu and

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<v Speaker 1>fun fact, while you're waiting for it to cave in

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly send you to a watery, muddy, gray blow,

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<v Speaker 1>you can enjoy the Davy Jones burger, which is topped

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<v Speaker 1>with as that this is from the menu, hot buttery

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<v Speaker 1>lobster meat. And that's that's how I want to go out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this for years. I want to die eating

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<v Speaker 1>a burger with lobster on it. So so that's that's good. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the last thing Steve wrote, which I love. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He says, oddly enough, the one thing I appreciate most

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<v Speaker 1>about the Duck is the hinds ketchup in the glass bottles,

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<v Speaker 1>because that ship just taste better. Joe, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>having undoubtedly been in some real New Jersey diners. He

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<v Speaker 1>could not be more correct. It is. It's rare. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very rare these days to find a place that uses

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<v Speaker 1>old school glass catchup bottles, or better yet, better yet right,

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<v Speaker 1>find a place that not only uses them, but refills

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<v Speaker 1>them because everything is just so freaking squeezeable and disposable

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<v Speaker 1>these days. Like if you gave if you gave my

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<v Speaker 1>kids a glass catchup bottle, they like they wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to get the catchup out the proper the proper

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<v Speaker 1>shake and tap technique is lost on their generation. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these kids wouldn't even know that sometimes you got to

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<v Speaker 1>start it with a butter knife. Thank you for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hold on, hold on, the butter knife is only

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<v Speaker 1>for kids. I would say, that's a rooky move. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta you know that, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tap the Hinds logo with the heel of your hand

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<v Speaker 1>and hold the bottle at just the right angle. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way you gotta do it. And and that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nearly useless hot tip, unless unless you're head

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<v Speaker 1>to the Black Duck for a beer burger and a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know where else you're gonna use those,

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't seen glass catchup bottles and ages. Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate the submission so very much, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>Joe or I will get to the Duck before it's

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<v Speaker 1>completely reclaimed by the river. If you. Yeah, I'm talking

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to you out there. If you've got a fishy bar

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<v Speaker 1>that you think should be featured on this show, let

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>us know. Send an email singing its praises and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and be compelling. Send it to Bent at the meat

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 1>eater dot com. I wonder if anyone has ever fished

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<v Speaker 1>off off the black Duck barge while drinking. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question. I mean, like, that's like, what's it um Seattle,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Seattle Hotel where you can fish out the window. You

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm talking about. It's the famous thing led Zeppelin,

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<v Speaker 1>did it? Like I do that? Yeah, A little soak,

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a little brew. Yeah, you should do that. You should.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a this is an important question

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be answered. There's only one way to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's with you know, on the ground, true investigative research.

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<v Speaker 1>You should go there and you should do that, and

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you should film it and then put it on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're doing video there you go won't we

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<v Speaker 1>won't do very well. And while you're doing that, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be I'll be over here or actually, you know, I'll

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>still be sitting in my basement listening to vinyl and

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<v Speaker 1>drinking and and and trying to dig up some valuable,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>useful content for the current events competition we sometimes like

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>to call fish news. Fish news escalated quickly before we

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>hit fish news quick little housekeeping. Uh while back I

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<v Speaker 1>reported on the the big lake surgeon. I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of crushings on this story that I apparently screwed

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<v Speaker 1>up because I've already corrected the story once. But the

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<v Speaker 1>two pound lake sturgeon that got caught Detroit River, I

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>already have admitted that I was wrong about how it

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was caught. A lot of people also seem to get

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>angry with or take issue with the way that we

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>framed the Detroit River as having once been a toxic wasteline,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 1>which it was. To be fair to us, it was

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>once that, but just to clear it all up so

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're not, you know, shipping on your favorite river,

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 1>it is a shiny example of what happens when we

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>clean up our waterways. Because the Troit River is actual

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in great shape now, it's great fishing. So I apologize

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to all of you out there who got offended if

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you thought we were talking smack about your favorite river.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We know it's good now, but legitimately it used to

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>be disgusting. It's just not any yeah. Yeah, And I

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>feel that personally because I'll just say that one time

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 1>I took like a joking shot at at Detroit Proper

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and learned quickly like people, there's Detroit Pride, and I

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>heard about it and I felt bad about it, and

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about doing that back in the day. So yeah, exactly,

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>So Detroit, it's all good. Uh, we apologize. What we'd

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like to do is take you out for a cup

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.679
<v Speaker 1>of coffee to make up for this. And if we

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>were going to do that, we would take you to

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>King Koi Coffee Garden in Vietnam. You get the plane tickets,

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>we get the coffee. It's just a quick shout out

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>for everyone that is written into alert ust to King

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Chy Coffee in Vietnam. This is worth. It's it's tremendous.

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>This is worth looking up the pots it is. It's

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>mostly made of water. There's koi swimming and all of it,

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like ki Wonderland, Like there's like little

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>peninsulas that go out to a couch for your coffee

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and you just sit there and you're just surrounded by koi,

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>like you're sitting below the waterline to like you're down

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>in it with the Koi having your coffee. This I

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>can see, I can see King Koi Coffee Las Vegas happening.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it seem like something that like Vegas would be

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>all about. Um? But yeah, we've we've dabbled in Koi

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>stories and things, so we do. We do appreciate the

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>not to King Koi Coffee in Vietnam if we ever

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>get there. We promised to record an entire episode live

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 1>from the floor at King Koi Coffee. But look it up.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope one day that's in our budget

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that we can fly to Vietnam and looking up from

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>King cooking up. So thanks for all that. Keep those coming.

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>We really enjoy those, everybody, And U reminder, this is

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>a competition. Joe and I do not know what's the

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 1>where is the other one that's found somewhere in the

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>recesses of the Internet. And at the end of it,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Phil the engineer, the engine and Phil the on the

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>one and only, the one and only the decider will

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>be picking a winner as the which one of us

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>gets to emerge feeling the glory and the light of

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Phil shining upon us. And which one of us is

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>just going to cry glory, the glory of love as

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 1>just like Peter Ster. Alright, you're up first man. What

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>do you got Yeah, Okay, So you just talked last

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>week about the mass speck pen, right, which quickly identifies

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the fish species when you simply touched this pen uh

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Filet's right. And this, of course is to

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>thwart fraud in the seafood industry. So I have a

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>story about another tool aimed at thwarting corruption and illegal fishing.

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>This one is much less technological than the mass speck pen,

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 1>but cool nonetheless. So I have always been intrigued with

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>three D printing, right since it became a thing, always

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>fascinated by by how it's applied to fishing. Is a

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>good specifically Okay, right, I'm happy, you're happy, But I've

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>always been interested in how it's applied to to fishing,

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and so far, I gotta tell you I'm not overly impressed, right, Like,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there isn't some cool fish related three

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>D printed ship out there, but for the most part,

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.959
<v Speaker 1>like I've noticed with lures, you see stuff made with

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, consumer grade three D printers and it's like, yeah, okay,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>And like I I've I have trust issues with the plastic, right,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I like, I don't. I don't fee it

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel strong. I don't think the consumer level stuff

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>is very strong. And I even have like a couple

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of three D printed fly reels, And while I appreciate

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the design and work that went into that, from cad

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>drawing to finished product, I'm like as as functional, but

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it's still kind of a novelty, Like I'm not opting

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>into the three D printed reel over a normal real Well,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and we did a whole sale been on the three

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>D printed lures that look terrible because when we just

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>made fun of them. No, actually we flagged one, but

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>we didn't do it because then we found out it

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>was a young child making them, and we were like,

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>oh we better not. Oh we didn't. I thought we

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>were sorry, Kate, if you're listening now, we were gonna

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>they were gonna crucify you, and then we just kind

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of did anyway. But yeah, it was all fun and games.

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, yo, bro, he's a leavin, so

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>let's not look like terrible people anyway. Anyway. So look,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>so here's a great example of how three D printing

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>is being used in a fishy way that is not

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a novelty. And this comes from New Zealand's Times Live.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>And we all know that one of the biggest threats

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to sharks globally is shark finning. And no, we are

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>not replacing the shark fins with three D printed fins

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.239
<v Speaker 1>like that Annaka dolphin that lost its tail. Okay, So

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>global assessments estimate that between twenty six million and seventy

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>three million sharks are traded each year, but they estimate

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that the actual figure is likely to be far higher. Now,

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>these sharks are cotton nets finned and their bodies are dumped,

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and this happens a lot over in Asia, a lot

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of different countries. Dried shark fins fetch huge money. Right,

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be an aphrodisiac and I have all

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>kinds of other health benefits. They make soup out of them.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>He actually recently talked about that great piece our buddy

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>river Horse wrote that covered or touched on shark fitting

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>here in the States. Right, So this this happens legally

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>here too. Now, in most countries, shark fitting is very illegal,

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>those some do allow it, but there's rules, like they

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>insist that you know, theoretically the whole shark is supposed

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to be brought back and finned on land, which allows

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the proper authorities to properly i d the fish. Bringing

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole shark back also means a boat off shore

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>theoretically can't kill as many sharks because when you have

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole shark taking up you know, hold space, it

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just they just take up more room. Um. You're also

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>only supposed to target approved sharks, uh those that aren't

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>protected or in endangered. But regardless, shark fins are are

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>still in just such high demand that the practices rampant

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>illegally all over the world. And in order to even

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>try to nail people doing this illegally, first you have

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to be able to identify the fish by finn only

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>similar to how we're trying to identify fake phil as

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>with the with the masspect um. If you can't prove

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that the finn is from a shark, you're not supposed

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to harvest. It makes it difficult to follow through on

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>repercussions and making a case. So the nonprofit organization Traffic,

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>which keeps an eye on stuff like shark Finning wanted

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to do something to help, and they worked with the

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>South African Department of Forestreet, Fisheries and Environment. They also

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>worked with US shark expert Deborrah Abercrombie and they also

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>got input from from several committed South African based service

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>providers to create a set of ultra realistic three D

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>printed shark fins that can be used by frontline enforcement

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>agents as an i D guide. And they did this

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 1>by first collecting real dried shark fins that have been

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>comp scated during busts all over the world, and these

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>included fins of eleven of the most commonly traded species.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Great hammerhead is one of them, Oceanic white tip silky sharks,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and they they laser scan all these fins and part

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of the story they use nylon as the primary material

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and the printing process they use gives the fins us

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>like a slightly rough sand paper texture, similar to real

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>dried shark fins found in the trade, and the story says,

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>once these fins are are painted up right, you'd be

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>hard pressed to tell the difference between a real dried

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>shark fin and the fake fin. So currently there are

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>three D scan files and associated painting instructions available for

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty two fins for free on the Traffic website as

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>part of the organization's ongoing effort to combat the illegal trade.

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So any enforcement agency that deals with shark finning the

0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>world over anywhere can download all those files for and

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>all the paint instructions and basically create a set of

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>these fins that they can take with them and use

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in the field for quick I D. So we're just

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>using some three D printing here, but I mean talk

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>about using that in a in a way that has

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>or can have significant impact. Right away, I thought that

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>was really cool. I think that's cooler than three D

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>printed fly reel. Sorry, no, you're You're absolutely right on

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so many levels. I saw this story. I'm really glad

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you took it because because I didn't otherwise, we we

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>almost crossed over. We came very close. Two weeks in

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a row, we've almost crossed almost almost but but not.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm appreciating that. And look, we I think everybody

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>is aware that the massive depredation of sharks in the

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>world is a problem for our aquatic existence and it's

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>messing up our fisheries. Uh So anything we can do

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to get ahead of this. I'm all for it, and

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be some challenges with us first

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>getting them everywhere and then get them in use. But dude,

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>like I said, anything anything that that helps in regulatory

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>agencies cracked down on a illegal shark sales, I'm in sport.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have more questions. Like I I put

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>faith in the research that like these are the right

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>tools for the job, but I also wonder, like, man,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>can you make one fin or a fin or two

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>represents you know, that's representing all these different species and

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>do they really look that different? I'm just curious. I'm

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>just asking does it does having that there, does it

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>allow you to say for sure, oh no, that's definitely

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a great fan or yeah, exactly so. Um. But they

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>seem really confident that that this is going to be

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just instrumental in in in helping solve this problem, because

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, it's only getting worse, Like they're

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>more and more sharks every single year, and it's it's,

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>as I as I understand it, one of the toughest

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of infractions in illegal seafood trade. To crack down

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>on three D printing. I hope that goes well, I

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>really do. I hope that anything, like I said, anything

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>we can do and I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>technology and fish. But I'm going in the complete opposite direction.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Whereas you looked at a new technology that may have

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>massive benefit to sharks and fisheries and humans, I'm looking

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>at something that's completely useless and uh, we'll all be

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>dumber for having heard about it. Oh, I love it.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>This sounds like a me story. Yeah it is. This

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>is I channeled you for this. Uh, it's gonna be

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>short because there's not that much to say. But it's

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>so it's just so ridiculous. I had to do it. So. Supposedly,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 1>a company in Japan will soon be releasing something called

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the cat Sugyo Bag, which is a handbag designed to

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>carry live fish. The company announced, you did it, You

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>went for it. Great. The company announced the product a

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, but they were really prepared for the

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>level of interest that it was going to generate. Within days,

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the fish bag got written up on sites all across

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the internet. Uh, some of which were like high fashion

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>blogs who incorrectly reported that the purpose of this item

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was to allow ornamental fish owners to take their finn

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>pets out for a walk. That is not what it's

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>for at all. Continue on. Could not be more wrong.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>As you know, the story kind of blew up, you know,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>with with websites like luxury Launches dot com proclaiming that

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the new innovation caters to the wishes of fish parents

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>with a quirky container like bag for live fish designed

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>as a more stylish, efficient, and environmentally friendly alternative to

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the traditional water filled plastic bag. Who are these people?

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing about this is helping fish? Really, I I got

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>so I've got a new low for myself. If this

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>ever happens, I know that I have bottomed out. If

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I ever become a writer for Luxury Launches dot com,

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I have officially failed at life, that's for sure. I

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know that. And of course, just so you know.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course, soon after that happened, other websites who like

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to make fun of ridiculous crap for sale picked up

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>on the story, like said and Useless dot com, which

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>calls itself the most depressive humor side on the Internet.

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>The product, which it looks like it should be a

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>prop from the life aquatic, Like I feel like someone

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>stole it off the set of the Life of Quads. Yes,

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a handheld clear cylinder. It's

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>got it's got a little carry handle on the top,

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>clear cylinder with caps on each end and feet on

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and this pressure gauge that looks like it

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>came from an old timey Scooba suit sticking up off

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the top, old iron along or something. Yeah. M A

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Corporation who made this put up a few photos in

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram post a couple of weeks ago, clearly not

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>knowing what they were getting into, which makes sense because

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>m A Corps is actually in the business of making

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>surgical equipment and this was their first foray into the

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>world of stupid viral product development. The post was inundated

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 1>with comments from people wondering where they could buy one

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to walk their pit fish and how much they would cost,

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>as well as the expected Hecklers controls. The actual product

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>is still in development, no models actually exist right now,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>but within days m A Corps took down the post

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>even though because because it just got out of control.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>But you can still find the photos all over the

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>internet and they show a host of different photoshopped fish

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>riding around in the Cartsugio bag. If you look closely,

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>first of all, you can tell the fish photoshop, and

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you'll also notice that the little pressure gauge on top

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 1>read zero in every single photo, so it's it's clearly

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not actually working. The m A Corporation first tried to

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>respond to all this insanity, explained the bag is not

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>intended for pet owners. The idea to allow fish consumers

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to transport live food fish that they purchased or caught

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>before consuming them, therefore ensuring maximum freshness. And I could

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:18.479
<v Speaker 1>in the damn tun Katsue person, it's gonna die. I'm

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>not there to be walked like a chihuahua. I'm gonna die.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's more. I don't, dude, I don't

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>know what's more mind boggling about this whole thing. The

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>fact that someone developed this high tech carrying case for

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>food fish, or the fact that thousands of people saw

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it and it would finally allow them to realize their

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>dreams of walking their goldfish through Central Park on a summer.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>That is the most like mind bending part of the

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. To me. It's like, not only exactly It's

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>like all these people came out of the woodwork and

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>been like, finally, finally, I have wanted to take Mr

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Scribbles on a walk for years and now find it

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like the those smoking dog owners with their dogs and

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>their air breathing pets walking around all happy. I hate them,

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>although I say, I will say the opportunity for for

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>viral video comedy. He imagine just like tone of the

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>movies with that and have a lobster in there, some

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>weird ship, do you know what I mean? I take

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that to take that to the Madison, stick a trout

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 1>in there and just like hang out at the take

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>out for a while, because what are you doing? I'm like,

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I like this one. Yeah, he helps me catch his friends.

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>He tells me. He's like he's he's the Judas fish.

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh And I want to The last day I'm gonna

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>say about this is like, I'm not a fan of

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this product, even if used as intended, because here's my often.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you need that maybe in Japan? No, no, no, no,

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>here's here's my thing. Hear me out. I'm I claim

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm basing this off of not a whole lot

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of evidence, but I think that the stress of putting

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>a fish in this tiny tank and carrying it around

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>is gonna totally screw up the meat, Like that fish

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 1>can be so stressed out. I don't think it's gonna

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>do well. I think you're better off killing the fish quickly,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>bleed him out and just keeping it really cold. I

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 1>think you will have a better product. Maybe I probably.

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean the impression I get though, is this is

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>like you go to the store, put the fish in,

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and you are immediately heading to where it's going to

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>be consumed, Like it's not supposed to live in there

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Frankly, I'm just curious. Have you

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>ever bought a live fish at a fish market? Like

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while there will be live dog

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>in some of the markets around here, which I've never

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 1>been sure if that's legal, but I see it nevertheless,

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have never bought a live fish from a

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>fish market. Nope, never done it. Never done that. Okay,

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Well that was so that was your what you'll call

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>your dumb story of the week. Let me just get

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>dumber because this is a classic yeah sort of you'll see,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>this is a classic surmilling news story that's not only

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like not really news I'm only doing this because it

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>gives me license to make fun of bad journalism and

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>have a debate of sorts with you. I want your

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>opinion on the subject matter of this piece which I found, yes,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I know which, which I found on the website of

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>b RC thirteen, which appears to be a local news

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>source mainly for the Pocono Mountains region of Pennsylvania. The

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>headline is, Okay, let's pay close attention now taking the

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 1>bait at the Flybrary in Monroe County. So I'm aware

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>of the library, Okay, So save your thoughts on flybrary

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>until I get through this, because that's what I want

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to discuss. But first, here's what this this riveting story,

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>which is it's really just a transcript of like a

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>forty second newscast sets. You've heard of a little library

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>where you can leave a book and take a book,

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>But have you heard of a flybrary. It's a phishing

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>lover's version of a little library. This flybrary is located

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>at the Shroud Township Forever Green Nature Preserve. The idea

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 1>is to leave a lure or take a lure. When

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.959
<v Speaker 1>the broadhead chapter of Trold Unlimited first installed, the Flybrary.

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>They left two lures on to start, and people are

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>taking the bait now there Now there are nearly fifteen

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>added by people who have visited. No live bait can

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>be used at the park, so the extra lures cannot

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>only help out fellow fishermen and women, but also the

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>safety of the fish. And then there's this quote from

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Todd Burns, a local Trod Unlimited member, and he's he's

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>very clearly trying to steer the reporter like back to

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the fly aspect of this whole thing. Like hence like

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>hence the name Flybrary, and hence the verbiage which they

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.439
<v Speaker 1>show on the flyberry that says have a fly, leave

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a fly, need a fly, take a fly, And Todd says,

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>they want you to use artificial lures only here specifically,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>we like to use flies. It's just one hook and

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>most of us pinched the barbs down and that way

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>when you catch a fish and it slides out easily

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and there's less of a chance of injuring the fish.

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>But I just feel like like the producer of this

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>segment either had no understanding of fly fishing, wants this

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to appeal more to the local bait dunkers and spinner

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>heavers or is is just dim So again not exactly

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>what i'd call like, holy shit, riveting news. But this

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>opens up a discussion. So now I'm going to pause

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>before I go on because I want your take on

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>these f library deals. So they're just so everybody understands.

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.439
<v Speaker 1>They're all over the country, and it's just a sort

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of it's this this national program where they'll send local

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>folks who feel like putting them up the infrastructure to

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 1>basically build your own little f library at at at

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>access points wherever. And you know, the idea is to

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>build community. You have a you leave a fly, you

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>take fly whatever. I love the idea of it. I

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>love anything that builds the angling community and solidarity. I

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's fun. I think it's it's I enjoy it.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>The first time I saw one was at the Mosquito

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Lagoon in Florida, and I put one of my clouser's

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>up there just because I had extra, because I tied

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Do I think that it's actually

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>going to generate any meaningful outcome? Like, do I think

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>that this is gonna get a huge number of people

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>into fly fishing or allow people who hadn't before been

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 1>able to figure out what fly to use to finally

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>be successful. No, my guess is what's gonna happen. Is

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it gonna be people use it the way I did, Like, Oh,

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a bunch of these because they haven't been working,

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>so I'll put one here because I think that's cool,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's gonna be like these these national depositories

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>for mostly useless flies. So I like the I like

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the community, like solidarity. Let's have fun with this aspect.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's not take this whole thing too seriously. Let's remember

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>rolling it together. But I don't think it's gonna be

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the place where I find like the secret hot patterns.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So we we could, we could not be more in agreement.

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I I truly love the idea of this. And again

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just speaking personally here. I hate to say this,

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but I've bumped into a couple of these flybrary type

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>things locally, and like you say, what's on them, if anything,

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>is just like pure trash, like the most garbage kmart,

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 1>like poorly tied yarn balls, or like the hooks are

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>all rusty. And I've looked at them and my reaction

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>is man, nobody that actually knows what they're doing on

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this river has contributed a fly to this f library.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's always it's like, why why why is there

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a saltwater popper in the library at this wild Brookie stream?

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Because I think you're right, like people see like, oh,

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I might be able to use that, but I'm not

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>going to give up something that I actually might need.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>So here's this chip is ship that I haven't thrown

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>ever and has no value, and I will stick that

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and now we will call it good. So I think

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 1>in theory it's a great idea, um. And it does

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>play theoretically into the communal aspect of fly fishing. Um.

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I've just not personally seen it work like it's supposed to. Now,

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. So the mosquito legoon thing, that's interesting. I've

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>actually never heard of one in an assaulty setting, though

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised. Um. But someone someone is gonna right

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 1>in and be like the f library on the north

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>fork of the Willowemack is better than the local fly shop,

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And okay, that's that's I'm not saying that doesn't exist.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it. And I'll just this, I

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have to I have to tell this very quick story.

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Years ago, a buddy of mine in Minnesota, you might

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.479
<v Speaker 1>be aware of this. I was trying to get something

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>going called Scavenger fly Does that ring a bell? I

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know about that, okay, And I thought it was

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 1>really cool, right. It had the flybrary aspect, but it

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.919
<v Speaker 1>was you sign up and you'd get a watertight fly

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>box and it even had a little notebook and like

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a little mini golf pencil in there so that you

0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>could like leave a note about what worked. And the

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 1>difference was you were supposed to hide it and then

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like leave clues, like give your buddy a clue and

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, or your fishing club guys or whatever, and

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it would sort of like grow and create this little

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>club of sorts. It sort of riffed on on chio

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>cashing as well, and the plan was to have these

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>these scavenger fly boxes hit it all over the country.

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote about it. I thought it was neat.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know if it's gonna work, but

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I think this is different and it's cool and it's

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>thinking outside the box. Um So I wrote a blog

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>about it. I filled my box planeted on a river

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in Jersey gave the clues and over the next couple

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>of days got a response. Right, a couple of dudes

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>found it, took a picture of them with the box

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>added flies, left the note, and I was like, cool,

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>this is cool. Did not take a full week for

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>someone to just steal the box? Just Jack, just gone.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to believe that wouldn't happen. I was like,

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>people will get behind this. This is not but I

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.760
<v Speaker 1>knew it would. I even wrote on the box with sharpie,

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>don't be a dick and steal this box. But I

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have no faith in humanity. It was Jack and lets

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>than five days of being planted. I'm not even sure

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>if these guys are still doing the scavenger fly thing.

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And this was three or four years ago. But that's

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that's my take. Love love the idea. I just don't know,

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, I mean, anytime you're dependent on a

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 1>large section of humanity doing the right thing, you're gonna

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>usually don't go into problems. Yeah, and you said that

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the scavenger fly thing that started in in Minnesota, in

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the Midwest, Minnesota, Yeah, Minnesota. Yeah, Well, my last story

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>also revolves around that part of the country. That part

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of the world, though it has nothing to do with

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>products or technology or anything like that. Uh, It's something

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>we talked about a lot, right, we talk we talk

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot about invasive species on the show, legitimately, right,

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 1>because fishing is a way of participating in the food web,

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and when new new creatures are introduced, that food web

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>changes and the fishing changes. So anglers, all of us

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>are invested in these topics. Right. We had we had

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Ikennelly on here a while back telling us how much

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he loves zebra muscles and milfoil, both of which is

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it a lot of handwringing from from just like these

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>are lively topics, right, and I'll leave I'll leave that

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>particular one, the milfoil and the muscles, for another day.

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>But in this one, I'm gonna focus on a different

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>freshwater invader, the spiny water flee. And I'm just curious.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen an up close picture of a

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>spiny water flee? I cannot say, I have no, dude,

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I I think they swam out of hr Geiger's nightmares.

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, so picture you don't swim up, they swim

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>up your pea hole, not that I know of. I

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't find anything about that. The picture picture a miniature

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>version of one of those those face suckers from the

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Aliens movie franchise He Lives Underwater. That's what it looks like. Yeah, yeah,

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And and for those of you listening unless you're driving,

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>google a picture of one right now so you can

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm what I'm saying like. It really does

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>look like one of those face stucker's kind of spider

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>lake with eight legs and to antenna up the front

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of the body. But instead of the tail that goes

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>down your throat and lays eggs, they've got these really

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>long barbed tails. That's sev of their body length there.

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Really honestly nightmarish, that's the best waygon describe them. So.

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Spiny water fleas are native to northern Europe and Asia,

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 1>but like ale wives and a bunch of other things,

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>they snuck over into North America and the ballasts of

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>cargo ships. They're first discovered in Lake Ontario two, but

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 1>have since spread throughout the Great Lakes and made their

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>way into lots of other inland waters across the Midwest

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and Canada. They're very very good at moving from place

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to place because of that terrifying long barbed tail because

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they can. They can attach themselves to just about anything,

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>ankle lines, fishing lines, boats, boots, whatever. They just stick

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to stuff. And so they can move from water like

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 1>one water body to another, because especially anglers and boaters,

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we move around. We like to change it up. So

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>North America has lots of native water fleas, not spiny

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>water fleas, but but native versions, and those those native

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>water fleas are important parts of our freshwater ecosystems. They

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>eat algae, which helps improve water quality and keeps problematic

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>blooms in check. They're also a primary food source for

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>small fish. But spiny water fleas, on the other hand,

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>eat native water fleas, and over here they have no predators.

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>When small fish try to eat spiny water fleas, those

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>long barbed tails either choke the fish or if they

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 1>managed to get them down, puncture their internal organs. That's

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna ask, but I figured without even asking,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, nothing can eat these. Nut's got to

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>be part of the problem. And so so they're bad.

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Bottom lines that they're bad. And they showed up. They

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 1>showed up around this same time as zebra muscles. But

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.280
<v Speaker 1>they haven't proliferated as rapidly, so they just haven't gotten

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>nearly as much attention. Like they showed up and people

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>were worried about it, but then it kind of weren't

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 1>everywhere in the way that we thought they would be.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So they've they've fallen off as one of the major concerns,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But a recent report published in the journal Bioscience may

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>indicate that they're more prevalent than than we realize, according

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to a researcher with I'm gonna say like possibly the

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>greatest scientist name of all time, Jacob vander Zanden, who

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>co authored the report and directs the University of Wisconsin

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:40.280
<v Speaker 1>madisone center for lemnology. Non native species can occur in small,

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>self sustaining populations, smoldering like embers in a new habitat.

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Many will continue on with that modest life history, never

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>having the negative ecological impacts that attract the invasive label.

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes an environmental trigger gets switched and the embers

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of these sleeper populations are fanned into a five alarm fire,

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and that might be exactly what's happening with water fleas.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Vanders Enden's paper documents and explains the implications of a

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>discovery made by students at the University of Wisconsin Madison

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nineteen. Undergraduates that u W conducted the

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>same field trip in nearby Lake Mendota that they do

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>every year, sampling the lake and using as a field lap,

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 1>but that year the nets were covered in thousands and

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>thousands spiny water fleas, which had never happened before, and

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 1>over two hundred sampling trips spanning three decades, they had

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 1>never found a single water flee right, So the obvious

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 1>conclusion would be that the water fleas had just recently

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 1>invaded the lake and take over. But they have lots

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>of data on this lake right because it's there, it's

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>their field lap. And so when scientists dug through sediment

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>coreps and and looked at other samples that they had stored,

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>they found evidence that the fleas had been around for

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 1>at least ten years, and all it took was one

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>abnormally cold summer for billions of them to survive and

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 1>lay eggs, and their population has remained steady ever since,

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>even though temperatures went back to normal. We have no way,

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we haven't figured out a way yet of getting rid

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of spiny water flows without killing everything in a lake.

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And right now half the whole deal, Yeah, exactly, right now. Uh,

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's anglers and voters like we're the one we're at

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the front lines of this. We we we need to

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>be cleaning and drying all of our equipment completely before

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>we go from one place to another. Thing is the

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>thing about these things, they can't survive drying. So one

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>thing we know it kills them. If they dry, they die,

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So keep that in mind. The study, it's going to

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 1>be on the bumper sticker. Try to die. That's better

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>than clean, drain dry for sure, the flea awareness bumper sticker.

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 1>The study, Like, I think the study reminds us that

0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>we we really got to be even more diligent because

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>what it shows is that you can even be in

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a body of water that isn't supposed to have water

0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>fleas because we may not have seen them yet, but

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:09.399
<v Speaker 1>they might be in a sleeper population right and and so,

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.959
<v Speaker 1>or they might be just starting to explode. And even

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:17.439
<v Speaker 1>though we're somewhere where those creepy little bastards aren't known

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to be well, you still might be picking them up.

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>So just it's just my little p s a like

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 1>giving you some evidence for why this is such a

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.399
<v Speaker 1>big deal of the clean drain dry It's because even

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're somewhere where you don't think one of these

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>invasive populations might be, it's possible that they're they're they're

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>just sleepers, so keep an eye out. Maybe the story

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't address it, but like if you if you look

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>at a small closed system like a lake where these

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 1>things have just popped up, right, is that a death sentence? Like,

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that's the bottom of the food chain,

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is that a is that a death sentence for a

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 1>body of water over time? It's not take away this sentence,

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>right because they've been in the Great Lakes for a

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>long time and it hasn't the Great Lakes haven't created.

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's not good. It's it's certainly, I mean, the

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Great Lakes are just so huge. I'm thinking, like, you know,

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>if you have these things in a smaller body of water,

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, I just seems unkillable, you know,

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 1>It's it's fascinating. And dude, it sounds like I always

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 1>joked if blue fish and blue gills ever grew big

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>enough where they could actually like bite you and hurt

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you like a shark. We'll be dead right. And I

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like these fleas are the same thing, Like, thank god,

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>these are a micro organism and like not something that

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>can drag me off to my own death exactly. But

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that now, it's good. It's good advice. And I'm guilty

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. I'm guilty of it, you know, throwing wet

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>waiters and wet boots. Yeah, I think I think we,

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:44.640
<v Speaker 1>most of us, are guilty of that. And you're better.

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You're a better person if you take the time to

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 1>do that. Um So, definitely something to be cognizanto. Phil

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>has a lot to be cognizanto. He can he can

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>visit the flybrary, he can handle the death fleas. He

0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>can make three D printed shark fins um or buy

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>himself a fish purse to carry his pet fish around.

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see, we'll see who Phil declares the winner

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this week. And listen, we're gonna change things up a

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit. After we hear from Phil. We're going to

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 1>actually do some sage lely wisdom with river Horse to

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>close out the show. Okay, because we've been having a

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun joking around about Memorial Day crowds and everything.

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>As always, you know, river Horse provides a sense of

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 1>calm too, So not only we're gonna hear a great

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>story here, we're gonna get that maybe that moment of zen,

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that moment of chill, perhaps we all need before going

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>into a crazy weekend. Joe, when you first started your stories,

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't exactly smelling blood in the water, But after

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a while you set the hook in my attention and

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>then proceeded to reel me in fishing. You're the winner

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 1>this week, and I don't think we should be too

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>hasty in just getting rid of all of these fish

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 1>handbags quite yet. We should hold on them for I

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like a hundred years or something, until we

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>decided to fall out. Teddy Williams and probably Walt Disney,

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, elon musk down the road and we

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 1>could take all of their heads for walks in Central Park.

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 1>It'll be like a real life episode of Futurama. Hey,

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 1>now this is realhoorse with some sagely wisdom. One of

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful things in life is to share it

0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>with someone, be there just a fellow human, a friend,

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>or a cherished, loved one. The best way I know

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to share is by feeding someone supper and taking them fishing.

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 1>We all know there will be some bumps in the

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>road along the way in life. Those bitter sweet low

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>tides and the ever damn sweet times have read and

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>high in the saddle, it's all good, and this is

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>how we make sense of life and what matters to us.

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's a story about taking a soldier along for some

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>water time called holding Steady. He is terrified of water.

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>They tell me a soldier who has been through some

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.720
<v Speaker 1>things and would like to go fishing. I tell the

1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Foundation that they can count on me. A few weeks later,

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I drive lonely farm roads a couple hours north, long

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 1>before sunrise, to a small Texas town to pick him up.

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how things will go. The Foundation told me

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 1>he was hit by a missile in a rock and

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:42.160
<v Speaker 1>has a torn up foot from jumping off a two

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 1>story building. Why did they do that, I asked, because

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 1>it was on fire, they replied. When I see him

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in the doorway, things aren't looking good. His eyes are

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>red and he quickly places sunglasses over them. This is

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a tough day, he says. He uses a hand carved

1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>wooden cane and wears a long beard. He is trembling

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and looks cold. I hand him a jacket, which brings

1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a hint of a smile. Do you want to stop

1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:19.560
<v Speaker 1>somewhere for some breakfast, I asked, I'm not hungry much

1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 1>these days, he says. It is a bust for fishing.

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:28.560
<v Speaker 1>The day before there were tornadoes and gale force winds,

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and the fish are down deep. Today it's bluebird skies, though,

1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 1>so we sit in the sweet sun on the tailgate

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and share some beers. This is the anniversary of my

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.640
<v Speaker 1>friend's death, he says. He jumped on a grenade to

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>save everyone. Sometimes I feel guilty. We look out at

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the lake for a long time, but your friend wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to feel that the rest of your time here,

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<v Speaker 1>or live it meaningfully, asked him. He holds up a

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<v Speaker 1>hand to grab mine and gives me a punch on

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder simplify whispers. I wonder aloud, is there any

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<v Speaker 1>chance you would want to go in the canoe for

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<v Speaker 1>a while? He nods, almost imperceptibly. I put an arm

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<v Speaker 1>around his shoulders and hold them as he sits down

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<v Speaker 1>in the front of the wicker seat and trades out

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<v Speaker 1>his cane from a huggany paddle. The fly rod leans

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<v Speaker 1>against the truck, kicking off the bank. I shot excitedly,

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<v Speaker 1>if the fishing were good, ad bomb out of cast

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<v Speaker 1>right by that sunken tree. What do you mean bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>he asked um. Simply the cast far. He laughs and

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<v Speaker 1>shakes his head. The foundation told me he was standing

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<v Speaker 1>next to a humby when a missile landed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>instantaneous pressure change is equivalent to your body dropping six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet under the ocean and back to sea level

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<v Speaker 1>in a millisecond. We canoe for hours. Back in town,

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend meets us at a brick of and pizza joint.

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<v Speaker 1>He wraps her up in his arms, gently pulls her

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<v Speaker 1>into the nook between his shoulder and neck, and breathes

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<v Speaker 1>her in. He lines up shots of whiskey on the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not normally into that sort of thing, but today

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<v Speaker 1>I am. He'd be game for fishing again some day,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, and actually trying to catch something. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? I say, you don't want to just paddle

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<v Speaker 1>around and live vicariously by hearing stories of all the

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<v Speaker 1>huge bass I've caught. He almost falls up the bar

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<v Speaker 1>stool laughing, tells me I'm about as funny as throwing

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<v Speaker 1>an egg into a ceiling fan. Later in the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>light shimmers around him from the waning sunset. He is different.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes are clear, a look of contented kindness in them.

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<v Speaker 1>He gives me a backcracker of a bear hug, and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him, was it a good day for you,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother? When we got on the water, He says,

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<v Speaker 1>everything changed. I hope you enjoyed that and can think

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<v Speaker 1>of someone in your life that you can take on

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<v Speaker 1>out there too. Here's to those who serve and to

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<v Speaker 1>those who support them. Here's to getting back on the

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<v Speaker 1>path of life again, no matter how tough the times

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<v Speaker 1>have been along the way. Oh, I get by with

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<v Speaker 1>a little help from my friends. Yes, indeed, life is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you out there. Well. That is all that

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<v Speaker 1>we for you this week. No matter how you are

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<v Speaker 1>choosing to spend moral day weekend, remember that you're more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to get in a bar fight if the bar

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<v Speaker 1>has a gravel parking lot. Yes, Joe would rather be

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping alone in a filthy, damp boat cabin than spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with his family. So yes, and finally, all of

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<v Speaker 1>our our bullshit aside. Heeds some of that river Horse

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom this weekend, put your rod and your gin and

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<v Speaker 1>juice down long enough to reflect on the weight and

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<v Speaker 1>significance of this holiday. It's about a whole lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than getting a past to make a fool yourself in public. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>biggest yes of the whole clothes here. Huge thanks again

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<v Speaker 1>to river Horse for closing out this week show so eloquently,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks from everyone here at Bent and the Mediator

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<v Speaker 1>to all who serve and all those who have made

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom so we can do

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<v Speaker 1>things like go fishing and make fun of people who

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<v Speaker 1>suck at fishing. Well said, Well said. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>any pictures of those people this weekend, post them with

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<v Speaker 1>the Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtag so we can

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<v Speaker 1>revel in the misery of strangers with you doing so,

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<v Speaker 1>I might just earn you a sticker pack from us,

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<v Speaker 1>but posting videos to TikTok will not earn you a

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<v Speaker 1>sticker pack because we're not on TikTok. M