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Speaker 1: The qualified Captain is about to get a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more content post. You just rinse that barking basement spinner

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Speaker 1: how much better the fishing was yesterday. Think about Swazie

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Speaker 1: was not whooping ass in roadhouse on the asphalt outside

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Speaker 1: the Hooters. Johnny Cash was not kicking in a fighting

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Speaker 1: pavement outside of Houla hands instantaneous pressure changes equivalent to

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Speaker 1: back to sea level and a meda second. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: degenerate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that's

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Speaker 1: ready for summer, but not the uptick of Ask Clowns,

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Speaker 1: Google's jet Skiers, White Claw Shugars and Tito's Sluggers that

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Speaker 1: will be showing up at the ramp. I'm Joe, Sir

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Speaker 1: Melie A. Miles Nulty and uh it's it's a memorially

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Speaker 1: or or as I prefer to call it, three straight

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Speaker 1: probably has for you too. Yeah yeah, all right, sort

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask, are you is the whole purpose here?

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to set up like a nostalgic let's

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Speaker 1: where I've gone. Uh, I guess I'm apologizing. I'm not

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Speaker 1: beginning of just work. Right because most of my adult life,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by thirteen Fishing. Yes, we highly encourage,

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Speaker 1: get a whole lot more content. Oh wow? Was that

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Speaker 1: a social media A social media reference from Miles Nulty

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Speaker 1: It's the modern version of America's Funniest Home Videos. Oh yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: and absorb the wisdom of Lance V. Here comes trolling

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Speaker 1: with Lance to the land, to the boats, to the lake,

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Speaker 1: haters hoping I was done on the stumpster fire of

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Speaker 1: stroking me checks among other things they've been stroking lately

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Speaker 1: hashtag I stroke you choke anyway. This week we have

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Speaker 1: dear Lance. I've been having a really hard time getting

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Speaker 1: anyone to pay attention to my parlor, Tumbler and Vibra accounts.

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Speaker 1: how though, And you're in luck because TikTok has a

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Speaker 1: Seattle Hotel where you can fish out the window. You

424
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Speaker 1: know I'm talking about. It's the famous thing led Zeppelin,

425
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: did it? Like I do that? Yeah, A little soak,

426
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: a little brew. Yeah, you should do that. You should.

427
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I think this is a this is an important question

428
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: needs to be answered. There's only one way to do it,

429
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: and that's with you know, on the ground, true investigative research.

430
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: You should go there and you should do that, and

431
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: you should film it and then put it on TikTok.

432
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: And while you're doing video there you go won't we

433
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: won't do very well. And while you're doing that, I'll

434
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: be I'll be over here or actually, you know, I'll

435
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: still be sitting in my basement listening to vinyl and

436
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: drinking and and and trying to dig up some valuable,

437
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: useful content for the current events competition we sometimes like

438
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: to call fish news. Fish news escalated quickly before we

439
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: hit fish news quick little housekeeping. Uh while back I

440
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: reported on the the big lake surgeon. I'm having a

441
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: bunch of crushings on this story that I apparently screwed

442
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: up because I've already corrected the story once. But the

443
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: two pound lake sturgeon that got caught Detroit River, I

444
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: already have admitted that I was wrong about how it

445
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: was caught. A lot of people also seem to get

446
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: angry with or take issue with the way that we

447
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: framed the Detroit River as having once been a toxic wasteline,

448
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: which it was. To be fair to us, it was

449
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: once that, but just to clear it all up so

450
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: that we're not, you know, shipping on your favorite river,

451
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: it is a shiny example of what happens when we

452
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: clean up our waterways. Because the Troit River is actual

453
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: in great shape now, it's great fishing. So I apologize

454
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: to all of you out there who got offended if

455
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: you thought we were talking smack about your favorite river.

456
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: We know it's good now, but legitimately it used to

457
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: be disgusting. It's just not any yeah. Yeah, And I

458
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: feel that personally because I'll just say that one time

459
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: I took like a joking shot at at Detroit Proper

460
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: and learned quickly like people, there's Detroit Pride, and I

461
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: heard about it and I felt bad about it, and

462
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about doing that back in the day. So yeah, exactly,

463
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: So Detroit, it's all good. Uh, we apologize. What we'd

464
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: like to do is take you out for a cup

465
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: of coffee to make up for this. And if we

466
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: were going to do that, we would take you to

467
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: King Koi Coffee Garden in Vietnam. You get the plane tickets,

468
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: we get the coffee. It's just a quick shout out

469
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Speaker 1: for everyone that is written into alert ust to King

470
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: Chy Coffee in Vietnam. This is worth. It's it's tremendous.

471
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: This is worth looking up the pots it is. It's

472
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: mostly made of water. There's koi swimming and all of it,

473
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: and it's just like ki Wonderland, Like there's like little

474
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: peninsulas that go out to a couch for your coffee

475
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: and you just sit there and you're just surrounded by koi,

476
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: like you're sitting below the waterline to like you're down

477
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: in it with the Koi having your coffee. This I

478
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: can see, I can see King Koi Coffee Las Vegas happening.

479
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like something that like Vegas would be

480
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: all about. Um? But yeah, we've we've dabbled in Koi

481
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: stories and things, so we do. We do appreciate the

482
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: not to King Koi Coffee in Vietnam if we ever

483
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: get there. We promised to record an entire episode live

484
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: from the floor at King Koi Coffee. But look it up.

485
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope one day that's in our budget

486
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: that we can fly to Vietnam and looking up from

487
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: King cooking up. So thanks for all that. Keep those coming.

488
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: We really enjoy those, everybody, And U reminder, this is

489
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: a competition. Joe and I do not know what's the

490
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: where is the other one that's found somewhere in the

491
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: recesses of the Internet. And at the end of it,

492
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: Phil the engineer, the engine and Phil the on the

493
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: one and only, the one and only the decider will

494
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: be picking a winner as the which one of us

495
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: gets to emerge feeling the glory and the light of

496
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: Phil shining upon us. And which one of us is

497
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: just going to cry glory, the glory of love as

498
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: just like Peter Ster. Alright, you're up first man. What

499
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: do you got Yeah, Okay, So you just talked last

500
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: week about the mass speck pen, right, which quickly identifies

501
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: the fish species when you simply touched this pen uh

502
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: to the Filet's right. And this, of course is to

503
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: thwart fraud in the seafood industry. So I have a

504
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: story about another tool aimed at thwarting corruption and illegal fishing.

505
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: This one is much less technological than the mass speck pen,

506
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: but cool nonetheless. So I have always been intrigued with

507
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: three D printing, right since it became a thing, always

508
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: fascinated by by how it's applied to fishing. Is a

509
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: good specifically Okay, right, I'm happy, you're happy, But I've

510
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: always been interested in how it's applied to to fishing,

511
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and so far, I gotta tell you I'm not overly impressed, right, Like,

512
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there isn't some cool fish related three

513
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: D printed ship out there, but for the most part,

514
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: like I've noticed with lures, you see stuff made with

515
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, consumer grade three D printers and it's like, yeah, okay,

516
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: And like I I've I have trust issues with the plastic, right,

517
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I like, I don't. I don't fee it

518
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: doesn't feel strong. I don't think the consumer level stuff

519
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: is very strong. And I even have like a couple

520
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: of three D printed fly reels, And while I appreciate

521
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: the design and work that went into that, from cad

522
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: drawing to finished product, I'm like as as functional, but

523
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: it's still kind of a novelty, Like I'm not opting

524
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: into the three D printed reel over a normal real Well,

525
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: and we did a whole sale been on the three

526
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: D printed lures that look terrible because when we just

527
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: made fun of them. No, actually we flagged one, but

528
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: we didn't do it because then we found out it

529
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: was a young child making them, and we were like,

530
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: oh we better not. Oh we didn't. I thought we

531
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: were sorry, Kate, if you're listening now, we were gonna

532
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: they were gonna crucify you, and then we just kind

533
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: of did anyway. But yeah, it was all fun and games.

534
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, bro, he's a leavin, so

535
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: let's not look like terrible people anyway. Anyway. So look,

536
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: so here's a great example of how three D printing

537
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: is being used in a fishy way that is not

538
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: a novelty. And this comes from New Zealand's Times Live.

539
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: And we all know that one of the biggest threats

540
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: to sharks globally is shark finning. And no, we are

541
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: not replacing the shark fins with three D printed fins

542
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 1: like that Annaka dolphin that lost its tail. Okay, So

543
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: global assessments estimate that between twenty six million and seventy

544
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: three million sharks are traded each year, but they estimate

545
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: that the actual figure is likely to be far higher. Now,

546
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: these sharks are cotton nets finned and their bodies are dumped,

547
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: and this happens a lot over in Asia, a lot

548
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: of different countries. Dried shark fins fetch huge money. Right,

549
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be an aphrodisiac and I have all

550
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: kinds of other health benefits. They make soup out of them.

551
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: He actually recently talked about that great piece our buddy

552
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: river Horse wrote that covered or touched on shark fitting

553
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: here in the States. Right, So this this happens legally

554
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: here too. Now, in most countries, shark fitting is very illegal,

555
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: those some do allow it, but there's rules, like they

556
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: insist that you know, theoretically the whole shark is supposed

557
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: to be brought back and finned on land, which allows

558
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: the proper authorities to properly i d the fish. Bringing

559
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: the whole shark back also means a boat off shore

560
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: theoretically can't kill as many sharks because when you have

561
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: the whole shark taking up you know, hold space, it

562
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: just they just take up more room. Um. You're also

563
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: only supposed to target approved sharks, uh those that aren't

564
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: protected or in endangered. But regardless, shark fins are are

565
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: still in just such high demand that the practices rampant

566
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: illegally all over the world. And in order to even

567
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: try to nail people doing this illegally, first you have

568
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: to be able to identify the fish by finn only

569
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: similar to how we're trying to identify fake phil as

570
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: with the with the masspect um. If you can't prove

571
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: that the finn is from a shark, you're not supposed

572
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: to harvest. It makes it difficult to follow through on

573
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: repercussions and making a case. So the nonprofit organization Traffic,

574
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: which keeps an eye on stuff like shark Finning wanted

575
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: to do something to help, and they worked with the

576
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: South African Department of Forestreet, Fisheries and Environment. They also

577
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: worked with US shark expert Deborrah Abercrombie and they also

578
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: got input from from several committed South African based service

579
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: providers to create a set of ultra realistic three D

580
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: printed shark fins that can be used by frontline enforcement

581
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: agents as an i D guide. And they did this

582
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: by first collecting real dried shark fins that have been

583
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: comp scated during busts all over the world, and these

584
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: included fins of eleven of the most commonly traded species.

585
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Great hammerhead is one of them, Oceanic white tip silky sharks,

586
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and they they laser scan all these fins and part

587
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: of the story they use nylon as the primary material

588
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: and the printing process they use gives the fins us

589
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: like a slightly rough sand paper texture, similar to real

590
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: dried shark fins found in the trade, and the story says,

591
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: once these fins are are painted up right, you'd be

592
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: hard pressed to tell the difference between a real dried

593
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: shark fin and the fake fin. So currently there are

594
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: three D scan files and associated painting instructions available for

595
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: twenty two fins for free on the Traffic website as

596
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: part of the organization's ongoing effort to combat the illegal trade.

597
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: So any enforcement agency that deals with shark finning the

598
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: world over anywhere can download all those files for and

599
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: all the paint instructions and basically create a set of

600
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: these fins that they can take with them and use

601
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: in the field for quick I D. So we're just

602
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: using some three D printing here, but I mean talk

603
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: about using that in a in a way that has

604
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: or can have significant impact. Right away, I thought that

605
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: was really cool. I think that's cooler than three D

606
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: printed fly reel. Sorry, no, you're You're absolutely right on

607
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: so many levels. I saw this story. I'm really glad

608
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you took it because because I didn't otherwise, we we

609
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: almost crossed over. We came very close. Two weeks in

610
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: a row, we've almost crossed almost almost but but not.

611
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm appreciating that. And look, we I think everybody

612
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: is aware that the massive depredation of sharks in the

613
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: world is a problem for our aquatic existence and it's

614
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: messing up our fisheries. Uh So anything we can do

615
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: to get ahead of this. I'm all for it, and

616
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some challenges with us first

617
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: getting them everywhere and then get them in use. But dude,

618
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: like I said, anything anything that that helps in regulatory

619
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: agencies cracked down on a illegal shark sales, I'm in sport.

620
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I have more questions. Like I I put

621
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: faith in the research that like these are the right

622
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: tools for the job, but I also wonder, like, man,

623
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: can you make one fin or a fin or two

624
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: represents you know, that's representing all these different species and

625
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: do they really look that different? I'm just curious. I'm

626
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: just asking does it does having that there, does it

627
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: allow you to say for sure, oh no, that's definitely

628
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: a great fan or yeah, exactly so. Um. But they

629
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: seem really confident that that this is going to be

630
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: just instrumental in in in helping solve this problem, because

631
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: as I understand it, it's only getting worse, Like they're

632
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: more and more sharks every single year, and it's it's,

633
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: as I as I understand it, one of the toughest

634
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: sort of infractions in illegal seafood trade. To crack down

635
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: on three D printing. I hope that goes well, I

636
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: really do. I hope that anything, like I said, anything

637
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: we can do and I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with

638
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: technology and fish. But I'm going in the complete opposite direction.

639
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Whereas you looked at a new technology that may have

640
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: massive benefit to sharks and fisheries and humans, I'm looking

641
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: at something that's completely useless and uh, we'll all be

642
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: dumber for having heard about it. Oh, I love it.

643
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: This sounds like a me story. Yeah it is. This

644
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: is I channeled you for this. Uh, it's gonna be

645
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: short because there's not that much to say. But it's

646
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: so it's just so ridiculous. I had to do it. So. Supposedly,

647
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: a company in Japan will soon be releasing something called

648
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: the cat Sugyo Bag, which is a handbag designed to

649
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: carry live fish. The company announced, you did it, You

650
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: went for it. Great. The company announced the product a

651
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, but they were really prepared for the

652
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: level of interest that it was going to generate. Within days,

653
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: the fish bag got written up on sites all across

654
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: the internet. Uh, some of which were like high fashion

655
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: blogs who incorrectly reported that the purpose of this item

656
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: was to allow ornamental fish owners to take their finn

657
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: pets out for a walk. That is not what it's

658
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: for at all. Continue on. Could not be more wrong.

659
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: As you know, the story kind of blew up, you know,

660
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: with with websites like luxury Launches dot com proclaiming that

661
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: the new innovation caters to the wishes of fish parents

662
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: with a quirky container like bag for live fish designed

663
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: as a more stylish, efficient, and environmentally friendly alternative to

664
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: the traditional water filled plastic bag. Who are these people?

665
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Nothing about this is helping fish? Really, I I got

666
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: so I've got a new low for myself. If this

667
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: ever happens, I know that I have bottomed out. If

668
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I ever become a writer for Luxury Launches dot com,

669
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: I have officially failed at life, that's for sure. I

670
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: don't know that. And of course, just so you know.

671
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Of course, soon after that happened, other websites who like

672
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: to make fun of ridiculous crap for sale picked up

673
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: on the story, like said and Useless dot com, which

674
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: calls itself the most depressive humor side on the Internet.

675
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: The product, which it looks like it should be a

676
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: prop from the life aquatic, Like I feel like someone

677
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: stole it off the set of the Life of Quads. Yes,

678
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a handheld clear cylinder. It's

679
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: got it's got a little carry handle on the top,

680
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: clear cylinder with caps on each end and feet on

681
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: the bottom, and this pressure gauge that looks like it

682
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: came from an old timey Scooba suit sticking up off

683
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: the top, old iron along or something. Yeah. M A

684
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: Corporation who made this put up a few photos in

685
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: an Instagram post a couple of weeks ago, clearly not

686
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: knowing what they were getting into, which makes sense because

687
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: m A Corps is actually in the business of making

688
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: surgical equipment and this was their first foray into the

689
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: world of stupid viral product development. The post was inundated

690
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: with comments from people wondering where they could buy one

691
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: to walk their pit fish and how much they would cost,

692
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: as well as the expected Hecklers controls. The actual product

693
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: is still in development, no models actually exist right now,

694
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: but within days m A Corps took down the post

695
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: even though because because it just got out of control.

696
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: But you can still find the photos all over the

697
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: internet and they show a host of different photoshopped fish

698
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: riding around in the Cartsugio bag. If you look closely,

699
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: first of all, you can tell the fish photoshop, and

700
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: you'll also notice that the little pressure gauge on top

701
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: read zero in every single photo, so it's it's clearly

702
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: not actually working. The m A Corporation first tried to

703
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: respond to all this insanity, explained the bag is not

704
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: intended for pet owners. The idea to allow fish consumers

705
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: to transport live food fish that they purchased or caught

706
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: before consuming them, therefore ensuring maximum freshness. And I could

707
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: in the damn tun Katsue person, it's gonna die. I'm

708
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: not there to be walked like a chihuahua. I'm gonna die.

709
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what's more. I don't, dude, I don't

710
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: know what's more mind boggling about this whole thing. The

711
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: fact that someone developed this high tech carrying case for

712
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: food fish, or the fact that thousands of people saw

713
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: it and it would finally allow them to realize their

714
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: dreams of walking their goldfish through Central Park on a summer.

715
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: That is the most like mind bending part of the

716
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: whole thing. To me. It's like, not only exactly It's

717
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: like all these people came out of the woodwork and

718
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: been like, finally, finally, I have wanted to take Mr

719
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Scribbles on a walk for years and now find it

720
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: like the those smoking dog owners with their dogs and

721
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: their air breathing pets walking around all happy. I hate them,

722
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: although I say, I will say the opportunity for for

723
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: viral video comedy. He imagine just like tone of the

724
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: movies with that and have a lobster in there, some

725
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: weird ship, do you know what I mean? I take

726
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: that to take that to the Madison, stick a trout

727
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: in there and just like hang out at the take

728
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: out for a while, because what are you doing? I'm like,

729
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I like this one. Yeah, he helps me catch his friends.

730
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: He tells me. He's like he's he's the Judas fish.

731
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Uh And I want to The last day I'm gonna

732
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: say about this is like, I'm not a fan of

733
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: this product, even if used as intended, because here's my often.

734
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Do you need that maybe in Japan? No, no, no, no,

735
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: here's here's my thing. Hear me out. I'm I claim

736
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: and I'm basing this off of not a whole lot

737
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: of evidence, but I think that the stress of putting

738
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: a fish in this tiny tank and carrying it around

739
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: is gonna totally screw up the meat, Like that fish

740
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: can be so stressed out. I don't think it's gonna

741
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: do well. I think you're better off killing the fish quickly,

742
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: bleed him out and just keeping it really cold. I

743
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: think you will have a better product. Maybe I probably.

744
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean the impression I get though, is this is

745
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: like you go to the store, put the fish in,

746
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: and you are immediately heading to where it's going to

747
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: be consumed, Like it's not supposed to live in there

748
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: for a long time. Frankly, I'm just curious. Have you

749
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: ever bought a live fish at a fish market? Like

750
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: every once in a while there will be live dog

751
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: in some of the markets around here, which I've never

752
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: been sure if that's legal, but I see it nevertheless,

753
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: and I have never bought a live fish from a

754
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: fish market. Nope, never done it. Never done that. Okay,

755
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Well that was so that was your what you'll call

756
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: your dumb story of the week. Let me just get

757
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: dumber because this is a classic yeah sort of you'll see,

758
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: this is a classic surmilling news story that's not only

759
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: like not really news I'm only doing this because it

760
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: gives me license to make fun of bad journalism and

761
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: have a debate of sorts with you. I want your

762
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: opinion on the subject matter of this piece which I found, yes,

763
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: I know which, which I found on the website of

764
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: b RC thirteen, which appears to be a local news

765
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: source mainly for the Pocono Mountains region of Pennsylvania. The

766
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: headline is, Okay, let's pay close attention now taking the

767
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: bait at the Flybrary in Monroe County. So I'm aware

768
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: of the library, Okay, So save your thoughts on flybrary

769
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: until I get through this, because that's what I want

770
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: to discuss. But first, here's what this this riveting story,

771
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: which is it's really just a transcript of like a

772
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: forty second newscast sets. You've heard of a little library

773
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: where you can leave a book and take a book,

774
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: But have you heard of a flybrary. It's a phishing

775
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: lover's version of a little library. This flybrary is located

776
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: at the Shroud Township Forever Green Nature Preserve. The idea

777
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: is to leave a lure or take a lure. When

778
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: the broadhead chapter of Trold Unlimited first installed, the Flybrary.

779
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: They left two lures on to start, and people are

780
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: taking the bait now there Now there are nearly fifteen

781
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: added by people who have visited. No live bait can

782
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: be used at the park, so the extra lures cannot

783
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: only help out fellow fishermen and women, but also the

784
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: safety of the fish. And then there's this quote from

785
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Todd Burns, a local Trod Unlimited member, and he's he's

786
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: very clearly trying to steer the reporter like back to

787
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: the fly aspect of this whole thing. Like hence like

788
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: hence the name Flybrary, and hence the verbiage which they

789
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: show on the flyberry that says have a fly, leave

790
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: a fly, need a fly, take a fly, And Todd says,

791
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: they want you to use artificial lures only here specifically,

792
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: we like to use flies. It's just one hook and

793
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: most of us pinched the barbs down and that way

794
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: when you catch a fish and it slides out easily

795
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: and there's less of a chance of injuring the fish.

796
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: But I just feel like like the producer of this

797
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: segment either had no understanding of fly fishing, wants this

798
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: to appeal more to the local bait dunkers and spinner

799
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: heavers or is is just dim So again not exactly

800
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: what i'd call like, holy shit, riveting news. But this

801
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: opens up a discussion. So now I'm going to pause

802
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: before I go on because I want your take on

803
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: these f library deals. So they're just so everybody understands.

804
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: They're all over the country, and it's just a sort

805
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: of it's this this national program where they'll send local

806
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: folks who feel like putting them up the infrastructure to

807
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: basically build your own little f library at at at

808
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: access points wherever. And you know, the idea is to

809
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: build community. You have a you leave a fly, you

810
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: take fly whatever. I love the idea of it. I

811
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: love anything that builds the angling community and solidarity. I

812
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: think it's fun. I think it's it's I enjoy it.

813
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: The first time I saw one was at the Mosquito

814
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: Lagoon in Florida, and I put one of my clouser's

815
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: up there just because I had extra, because I tied

816
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Do I think that it's actually

817
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: going to generate any meaningful outcome? Like, do I think

818
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: that this is gonna get a huge number of people

819
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: into fly fishing or allow people who hadn't before been

820
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: able to figure out what fly to use to finally

821
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: be successful. No, my guess is what's gonna happen. Is

822
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: it gonna be people use it the way I did, Like, Oh,

823
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of these because they haven't been working,

824
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: so I'll put one here because I think that's cool,

825
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be like these these national depositories

826
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: for mostly useless flies. So I like the I like

827
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: the community, like solidarity. Let's have fun with this aspect.

828
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: Let's not take this whole thing too seriously. Let's remember

829
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: rolling it together. But I don't think it's gonna be

830
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: the place where I find like the secret hot patterns.

831
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: So we we could, we could not be more in agreement.

832
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I I truly love the idea of this. And again

833
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking personally here. I hate to say this,

834
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: but I've bumped into a couple of these flybrary type

835
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: things locally, and like you say, what's on them, if anything,

836
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: is just like pure trash, like the most garbage kmart,

837
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: like poorly tied yarn balls, or like the hooks are

838
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: all rusty. And I've looked at them and my reaction

839
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: is man, nobody that actually knows what they're doing on

840
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: this river has contributed a fly to this f library.

841
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: Like it's always it's like, why why why is there

842
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: a saltwater popper in the library at this wild Brookie stream?

843
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Because I think you're right, like people see like, oh,

844
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: I might be able to use that, but I'm not

845
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: going to give up something that I actually might need.

846
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: So here's this chip is ship that I haven't thrown

847
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: ever and has no value, and I will stick that

848
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: and now we will call it good. So I think

849
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: in theory it's a great idea, um. And it does

850
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: play theoretically into the communal aspect of fly fishing. Um.

851
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: I've just not personally seen it work like it's supposed to. Now,

852
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So the mosquito legoon thing, that's interesting. I've

853
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: actually never heard of one in an assaulty setting, though

854
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Um. But someone someone is gonna right

855
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: in and be like the f library on the north

856
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: fork of the Willowemack is better than the local fly shop,

857
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: And okay, that's that's I'm not saying that doesn't exist.

858
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. And I'll just this, I

859
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: have to I have to tell this very quick story.

860
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: Years ago, a buddy of mine in Minnesota, you might

861
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 1: be aware of this. I was trying to get something

862
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: going called Scavenger fly Does that ring a bell? I

863
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: don't know about that, okay, And I thought it was

864
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: really cool, right. It had the flybrary aspect, but it

865
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: was you sign up and you'd get a watertight fly

866
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: box and it even had a little notebook and like

867
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: a little mini golf pencil in there so that you

868
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: could like leave a note about what worked. And the

869
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: difference was you were supposed to hide it and then

870
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: like leave clues, like give your buddy a clue and

871
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, or your fishing club guys or whatever, and

872
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: it would sort of like grow and create this little

873
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: club of sorts. It sort of riffed on on chio

874
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: cashing as well, and the plan was to have these

875
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: these scavenger fly boxes hit it all over the country.

876
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: And I wrote about it. I thought it was neat.

877
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if it's gonna work, but

878
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: I think this is different and it's cool and it's

879
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box. Um So I wrote a blog

880
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: about it. I filled my box planeted on a river

881
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: in Jersey gave the clues and over the next couple

882
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: of days got a response. Right, a couple of dudes

883
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: found it, took a picture of them with the box

884
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: added flies, left the note, and I was like, cool,

885
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: this is cool. Did not take a full week for

886
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: someone to just steal the box? Just Jack, just gone.

887
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: And I wanted to believe that wouldn't happen. I was like,

888
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: people will get behind this. This is not but I

889
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: knew it would. I even wrote on the box with sharpie,

890
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: don't be a dick and steal this box. But I

891
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: have no faith in humanity. It was Jack and lets

892
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: than five days of being planted. I'm not even sure

893
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: if these guys are still doing the scavenger fly thing.

894
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: And this was three or four years ago. But that's

895
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: that's my take. Love love the idea. I just don't know,

896
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean, anytime you're dependent on a

897
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: large section of humanity doing the right thing, you're gonna

898
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: usually don't go into problems. Yeah, and you said that

899
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: the scavenger fly thing that started in in Minnesota, in

900
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: the Midwest, Minnesota, Yeah, Minnesota. Yeah, Well, my last story

901
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: also revolves around that part of the country. That part

902
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: of the world, though it has nothing to do with

903
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: products or technology or anything like that. Uh, It's something

904
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: we talked about a lot, right, we talk we talk

905
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: a lot about invasive species on the show, legitimately, right,

906
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: because fishing is a way of participating in the food web,

907
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: and when new new creatures are introduced, that food web

908
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: changes and the fishing changes. So anglers, all of us

909
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: are invested in these topics. Right. We had we had

910
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: Ikennelly on here a while back telling us how much

911
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: he loves zebra muscles and milfoil, both of which is

912
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: it a lot of handwringing from from just like these

913
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: are lively topics, right, and I'll leave I'll leave that

914
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: particular one, the milfoil and the muscles, for another day.

915
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: But in this one, I'm gonna focus on a different

916
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: freshwater invader, the spiny water flee. And I'm just curious.

917
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen an up close picture of a

918
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: spiny water flee? I cannot say, I have no, dude,

919
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: I I think they swam out of hr Geiger's nightmares.

920
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: Really yeah, so picture you don't swim up, they swim

921
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: up your pea hole, not that I know of. I

922
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: didn't find anything about that. The picture picture a miniature

923
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: version of one of those those face suckers from the

924
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: Aliens movie franchise He Lives Underwater. That's what it looks like. Yeah, yeah,

925
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: And and for those of you listening unless you're driving,

926
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: google a picture of one right now so you can

927
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: see what I'm what I'm saying like. It really does

928
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: look like one of those face stucker's kind of spider

929
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: lake with eight legs and to antenna up the front

930
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: of the body. But instead of the tail that goes

931
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: down your throat and lays eggs, they've got these really

932
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: long barbed tails. That's sev of their body length there.

933
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Really honestly nightmarish, that's the best waygon describe them. So.

934
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: Spiny water fleas are native to northern Europe and Asia,

935
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: but like ale wives and a bunch of other things,

936
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: they snuck over into North America and the ballasts of

937
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: cargo ships. They're first discovered in Lake Ontario two, but

938
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: have since spread throughout the Great Lakes and made their

939
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: way into lots of other inland waters across the Midwest

940
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: and Canada. They're very very good at moving from place

941
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: to place because of that terrifying long barbed tail because

942
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: they can. They can attach themselves to just about anything,

943
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: ankle lines, fishing lines, boats, boots, whatever. They just stick

944
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: to stuff. And so they can move from water like

945
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: one water body to another, because especially anglers and boaters,

946
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: we move around. We like to change it up. So

947
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: North America has lots of native water fleas, not spiny

948
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: water fleas, but but native versions, and those those native

949
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: water fleas are important parts of our freshwater ecosystems. They

950
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: eat algae, which helps improve water quality and keeps problematic

951
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: blooms in check. They're also a primary food source for

952
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: small fish. But spiny water fleas, on the other hand,

953
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: eat native water fleas, and over here they have no predators.

954
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: When small fish try to eat spiny water fleas, those

955
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: long barbed tails either choke the fish or if they

956
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: managed to get them down, puncture their internal organs. That's

957
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: what I was gonna ask, but I figured without even asking,

958
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I was like, nothing can eat these. Nut's got to

959
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: be part of the problem. And so so they're bad.

960
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: Bottom lines that they're bad. And they showed up. They

961
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: showed up around this same time as zebra muscles. But

962
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: they haven't proliferated as rapidly, so they just haven't gotten

963
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: nearly as much attention. Like they showed up and people

964
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: were worried about it, but then it kind of weren't

965
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: everywhere in the way that we thought they would be.

966
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: So they've they've fallen off as one of the major concerns,

967
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: But a recent report published in the journal Bioscience may

968
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: indicate that they're more prevalent than than we realize, according

969
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: to a researcher with I'm gonna say like possibly the

970
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: greatest scientist name of all time, Jacob vander Zanden, who

971
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: co authored the report and directs the University of Wisconsin

972
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: madisone center for lemnology. Non native species can occur in small,

973
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: self sustaining populations, smoldering like embers in a new habitat.

974
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: Many will continue on with that modest life history, never

975
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: having the negative ecological impacts that attract the invasive label.

976
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: But sometimes an environmental trigger gets switched and the embers

977
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: of these sleeper populations are fanned into a five alarm fire,

978
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: and that might be exactly what's happening with water fleas.

979
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Vanders Enden's paper documents and explains the implications of a

980
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: discovery made by students at the University of Wisconsin Madison

981
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Undergraduates that u W conducted the

982
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: same field trip in nearby Lake Mendota that they do

983
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: every year, sampling the lake and using as a field lap,

984
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: but that year the nets were covered in thousands and

985
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: thousands spiny water fleas, which had never happened before, and

986
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: over two hundred sampling trips spanning three decades, they had

987
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: never found a single water flee right, So the obvious

988
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: conclusion would be that the water fleas had just recently

989
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: invaded the lake and take over. But they have lots

990
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: of data on this lake right because it's there, it's

991
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: their field lap. And so when scientists dug through sediment

992
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: coreps and and looked at other samples that they had stored,

993
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: they found evidence that the fleas had been around for

994
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: at least ten years, and all it took was one

995
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: abnormally cold summer for billions of them to survive and

996
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: lay eggs, and their population has remained steady ever since,

997
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: even though temperatures went back to normal. We have no way,

998
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: we haven't figured out a way yet of getting rid

999
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: of spiny water flows without killing everything in a lake.

1000
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: And right now half the whole deal, Yeah, exactly, right now. Uh,

1001
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: it's anglers and voters like we're the one we're at

1002
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: the front lines of this. We we we need to

1003
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: be cleaning and drying all of our equipment completely before

1004
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: we go from one place to another. Thing is the

1005
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: thing about these things, they can't survive drying. So one

1006
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: thing we know it kills them. If they dry, they die,

1007
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. The study, it's going to

1008
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: be on the bumper sticker. Try to die. That's better

1009
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: than clean, drain dry for sure, the flea awareness bumper sticker.

1010
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: The study, Like, I think the study reminds us that

1011
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: we we really got to be even more diligent because

1012
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: what it shows is that you can even be in

1013
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: a body of water that isn't supposed to have water

1014
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: fleas because we may not have seen them yet, but

1015
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: they might be in a sleeper population right and and so,

1016
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 1: or they might be just starting to explode. And even

1017
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: though we're somewhere where those creepy little bastards aren't known

1018
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: to be well, you still might be picking them up.

1019
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: So just it's just my little p s a like

1020
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: giving you some evidence for why this is such a

1021
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: big deal of the clean drain dry It's because even

1022
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: if you're somewhere where you don't think one of these

1023
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: invasive populations might be, it's possible that they're they're they're

1024
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: just sleepers, so keep an eye out. Maybe the story

1025
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: doesn't address it, but like if you if you look

1026
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: at a small closed system like a lake where these

1027
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: things have just popped up, right, is that a death sentence? Like,

1028
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the bottom of the food chain,

1029
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: is that a is that a death sentence for a

1030
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: body of water over time? It's not take away this sentence,

1031
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: right because they've been in the Great Lakes for a

1032
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: long time and it hasn't the Great Lakes haven't created.

1033
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: But it's not good. It's it's certainly, I mean, the

1034
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: Great Lakes are just so huge. I'm thinking, like, you know,

1035
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: if you have these things in a smaller body of water,

1036
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, I just seems unkillable, you know,

1037
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating. And dude, it sounds like I always

1038
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: joked if blue fish and blue gills ever grew big

1039
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: enough where they could actually like bite you and hurt

1040
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: you like a shark. We'll be dead right. And I

1041
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: feel like these fleas are the same thing, Like, thank god,

1042
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: these are a micro organism and like not something that

1043
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: can drag me off to my own death exactly. But

1044
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: that now, it's good. It's good advice. And I'm guilty

1045
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: of it. I'm guilty of it, you know, throwing wet

1046
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: waiters and wet boots. Yeah, I think I think we,

1047
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: most of us, are guilty of that. And you're better.

1048
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: You're a better person if you take the time to

1049
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: do that. Um So, definitely something to be cognizanto. Phil

1050
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: has a lot to be cognizanto. He can he can

1051
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: visit the flybrary, he can handle the death fleas. He

1052
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: can make three D printed shark fins um or buy

1053
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: himself a fish purse to carry his pet fish around.

1054
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see who Phil declares the winner

1055
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: this week. And listen, we're gonna change things up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. After we hear from Phil. We're going to

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Speaker 1: actually do some sage lely wisdom with river Horse to

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Speaker 1: close out the show. Okay, because we've been having a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun joking around about Memorial Day crowds and everything.

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Speaker 1: As always, you know, river Horse provides a sense of

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Speaker 1: calm too, So not only we're gonna hear a great

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00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: story here, we're gonna get that maybe that moment of zen,

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Speaker 1: that moment of chill, perhaps we all need before going

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Speaker 1: into a crazy weekend. Joe, when you first started your stories,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly smelling blood in the water, But after

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Speaker 1: a while you set the hook in my attention and

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Speaker 1: then proceeded to reel me in fishing. You're the winner

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Speaker 1: this week, and I don't think we should be too

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Speaker 1: hasty in just getting rid of all of these fish

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Speaker 1: handbags quite yet. We should hold on them for I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like a hundred years or something, until we

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: decided to fall out. Teddy Williams and probably Walt Disney,

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00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: let's be honest, elon musk down the road and we

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: could take all of their heads for walks in Central Park.

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Speaker 1: It'll be like a real life episode of Futurama. Hey,

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Speaker 1: now this is realhoorse with some sagely wisdom. One of

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful things in life is to share it

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Speaker 1: with someone, be there just a fellow human, a friend,

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Speaker 1: or a cherished, loved one. The best way I know

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Speaker 1: to share is by feeding someone supper and taking them fishing.

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Speaker 1: We all know there will be some bumps in the

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Speaker 1: road along the way in life. Those bitter sweet low

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: tides and the ever damn sweet times have read and

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: high in the saddle, it's all good, and this is

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: how we make sense of life and what matters to us.

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Speaker 1: Here's a story about taking a soldier along for some

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Speaker 1: water time called holding Steady. He is terrified of water.

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Speaker 1: They tell me a soldier who has been through some

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: things and would like to go fishing. I tell the

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Speaker 1: Foundation that they can count on me. A few weeks later,

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: I drive lonely farm roads a couple hours north, long

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Speaker 1: before sunrise, to a small Texas town to pick him up.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how things will go. The Foundation told me

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Speaker 1: he was hit by a missile in a rock and

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01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: has a torn up foot from jumping off a two

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Speaker 1: story building. Why did they do that, I asked, because

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: it was on fire, they replied. When I see him

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: in the doorway, things aren't looking good. His eyes are

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: red and he quickly places sunglasses over them. This is

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01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: a tough day, he says. He uses a hand carved

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: wooden cane and wears a long beard. He is trembling

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Speaker 1: and looks cold. I hand him a jacket, which brings

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01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: a hint of a smile. Do you want to stop

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Speaker 1: somewhere for some breakfast, I asked, I'm not hungry much

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: these days, he says. It is a bust for fishing.

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: The day before there were tornadoes and gale force winds,

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: and the fish are down deep. Today it's bluebird skies, though,

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: so we sit in the sweet sun on the tailgate

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Speaker 1: and share some beers. This is the anniversary of my

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Speaker 1: friend's death, he says. He jumped on a grenade to

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: save everyone. Sometimes I feel guilty. We look out at

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Speaker 1: the lake for a long time, but your friend wants

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01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: you to feel that the rest of your time here,

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: or live it meaningfully, asked him. He holds up a

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: hand to grab mine and gives me a punch on

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01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: the shoulder simplify whispers. I wonder aloud, is there any

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01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: chance you would want to go in the canoe for

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01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: a while? He nods, almost imperceptibly. I put an arm

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Speaker 1: around his shoulders and hold them as he sits down

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Speaker 1: in the front of the wicker seat and trades out

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Speaker 1: his cane from a huggany paddle. The fly rod leans

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Speaker 1: against the truck, kicking off the bank. I shot excitedly,

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Speaker 1: if the fishing were good, ad bomb out of cast

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Speaker 1: right by that sunken tree. What do you mean bomb,

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Speaker 1: he asked um. Simply the cast far. He laughs and

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: shakes his head. The foundation told me he was standing

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01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: next to a humby when a missile landed, and the

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: instantaneous pressure change is equivalent to your body dropping six

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Speaker 1: thousand feet under the ocean and back to sea level

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Speaker 1: in a millisecond. We canoe for hours. Back in town,

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend meets us at a brick of and pizza joint.

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01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: He wraps her up in his arms, gently pulls her

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Speaker 1: into the nook between his shoulder and neck, and breathes

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Speaker 1: her in. He lines up shots of whiskey on the bar.

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Speaker 1: I'm not normally into that sort of thing, but today

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Speaker 1: I am. He'd be game for fishing again some day,

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01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: he says, and actually trying to catch something. What do

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: you mean? I say, you don't want to just paddle

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Speaker 1: around and live vicariously by hearing stories of all the

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: huge bass I've caught. He almost falls up the bar

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: stool laughing, tells me I'm about as funny as throwing

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: an egg into a ceiling fan. Later in the parking lot,

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: light shimmers around him from the waning sunset. He is different.

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01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: His eyes are clear, a look of contented kindness in them.

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: He gives me a backcracker of a bear hug, and

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Speaker 1: I asked him, was it a good day for you,

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Speaker 1: my brother? When we got on the water, He says,

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Speaker 1: everything changed. I hope you enjoyed that and can think

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Speaker 1: of someone in your life that you can take on

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01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: out there too. Here's to those who serve and to

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: those who support them. Here's to getting back on the

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: path of life again, no matter how tough the times

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01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: have been along the way. Oh, I get by with

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: a little help from my friends. Yes, indeed, life is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you out there. Well. That is all that

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01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: we for you this week. No matter how you are

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: choosing to spend moral day weekend, remember that you're more

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01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: likely to get in a bar fight if the bar

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: has a gravel parking lot. Yes, Joe would rather be

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: sleeping alone in a filthy, damp boat cabin than spending

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Speaker 1: time with his family. So yes, and finally, all of

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: our our bullshit aside. Heeds some of that river Horse

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: wisdom this weekend, put your rod and your gin and

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: juice down long enough to reflect on the weight and

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01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: significance of this holiday. It's about a whole lot more

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: than getting a past to make a fool yourself in public. Yes,

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Speaker 1: biggest yes of the whole clothes here. Huge thanks again

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Speaker 1: to river Horse for closing out this week show so eloquently,

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Speaker 1: and thanks from everyone here at Bent and the Mediator

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Speaker 1: to all who serve and all those who have made

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Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom so we can do

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Speaker 1: things like go fishing and make fun of people who

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Speaker 1: suck at fishing. Well said, Well said. If you get

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01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: any pictures of those people this weekend, post them with

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Speaker 1: the Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtag so we can

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Speaker 1: revel in the misery of strangers with you doing so,

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Speaker 1: I might just earn you a sticker pack from us,

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Speaker 1: but posting videos to TikTok will not earn you a

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Speaker 1: sticker pack because we're not on TikTok. M