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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number fifty. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break, live from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star Gut Nick in here
Speaker 1: and Amber in here. Dave will be joining us momentarily.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's having a conversation with coach McCarthy, so
Speaker 1: like he's going to the principles. Yeah, we'll see what
Speaker 1: comes of that. We'll see if he actually sticks around
Speaker 1: after that. But we'll get some downlow from him. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I haven't had a chance to be present
Speaker 1: in one of those walk offs. How different is he
Speaker 1: from Garrett? And like some of the things that he
Speaker 1: would say off the type of stuff those guys are good.
Speaker 1: I mean Garrett was good in the walk off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just Garrett showed y'all a lot more in the
Speaker 1: walk off than he showed the media or the general
Speaker 1: public during the session. McCarthy does that too. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were there for the first He did a little dinner
Speaker 1: lunch something with the media when they first when he
Speaker 1: first got here, right, Yeah, and I know you came
Speaker 1: to me and you were like it kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just dude. Yeah, you know, but but you know
Speaker 1: it's all calculated. He has to be when you're in
Speaker 1: these press conferences and you get asked them like he
Speaker 1: did today twenty seven different ways. Is that playing any answered?
Speaker 1: He's pretty patient, though I've seen some coaches that get
Speaker 1: impatient with that kind of stuff. It seems like he
Speaker 1: kind of he'll throw a little dagger every once in
Speaker 1: a while before the most part, he just kind of
Speaker 1: keeps answering the question, even if he has to do
Speaker 1: it multiple times. Right, yep, let's talk real quick, Nick,
Speaker 1: can you give me a fifty it's episode number fifty,
Speaker 1: milestone you got one? Mmm, let's just let's just go
Speaker 1: with Sean Sean Sean Lee, Sean Lee. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there's some others. D D Lewis I think we're fifty
Speaker 1: and we didn't get shan Lee on our show, but
Speaker 1: he was on the show. That would have been nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that. I was like, you freaking kid him.
Speaker 1: That's like, literally the only player that has ever made
Speaker 1: me nervous. Really, yeah, he made you nervous? Yes, why,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I have so much respect
Speaker 1: for him, like to another level. That is just like
Speaker 1: it was always intimidating to talk to him. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. He was the only one though, Fredy An
Speaker 1: Spellman was the only one. He made Nick nervous, make
Speaker 1: him a little nervous, So yeah, yeah, he was. He
Speaker 1: was kind of scary guy made players nervous, right, Well,
Speaker 1: there's some stories about the Lonzo spot. I know what
Speaker 1: number did he wear? Ninety. We'll save that until episode
Speaker 1: ninety because I'm there. I'll be a lot too good ones.
Speaker 1: You can tell. Yeah, about about the time that the
Speaker 1: equipment guys came in and he was in pregame warm
Speaker 1: ups and he had his jersey on backwards and they're
Speaker 1: trying to I mean, it just sets Spellman right across
Speaker 1: the chest and they're like, what's going on? They were like,
Speaker 1: who's going to tell Yeah, they ain't gonna be me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna roll out there with going on his chest. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. But Sean Lee, you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: is that it's it's kind of sad. He could have
Speaker 1: been one of the greatest players that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: ever had and he still was. It's just that, you know,
Speaker 1: the injuries and he knows that. He's the first one
Speaker 1: to say it. But I mean it sucks because he
Speaker 1: had really did have some bad luck. He could have
Speaker 1: been one of the greatest defensive players that they've had here.
Speaker 1: And you skipped over forty nine yesterday. Yeah, it's because
Speaker 1: there's hardly anyone that's ever worn it ever. I mean
Speaker 1: like when I was here, Yeah, they had a tight
Speaker 1: end named J. J. J. Huggins. He was the first
Speaker 1: player to ever wear it. Was he. So forty nine
Speaker 1: is not a number of the right number. I mentioned
Speaker 1: Lusaka's name the other day, what number, because for some
Speaker 1: reason I thought I wanted to say he wore forty nine.
Speaker 1: I think we did him. We did him like thirty nine,
Speaker 1: thirty nine he was in the thirties. Thirty nine, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: forty ninety nine, all right, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: storylines we're gonna do. We like to do this on Fridays.
Speaker 1: We try to take a big picture storyline approach to
Speaker 1: what are the things that that we're talking about heading
Speaker 1: into the games, the things that on Monday will be
Speaker 1: talking about as either helping the Cowboys win or being
Speaker 1: the reason why the Cowboys lose. UM. So, I wanted
Speaker 1: to go through some of these storylines. And I think
Speaker 1: there's no storyline obviously this week that's bigger than Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and whether he will be able to play. Um.
Speaker 1: So let's start first with that. Um. How did Dak respond? First, Nick,
Speaker 1: what have you heard as far as how he's responded
Speaker 1: to increased work that he got yesterday when he showed
Speaker 1: up this morning, Well, I mean he he said he
Speaker 1: was going to continue to push it. And that's that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that we've seen here this week, is
Speaker 1: that he's going to continue to do that. Um And
Speaker 1: and I think that you know what he said yesterday
Speaker 1: is that I felt better every day, um And, which
Speaker 1: is that's a huge deal because I mean, when you
Speaker 1: push it, you push it like that, you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have some setbacks. So it sounds like it's continued
Speaker 1: to ramp up in the in the right way. But
Speaker 1: I think they were starting to kind of hear, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's whispers or whatever, that there's a
Speaker 1: there's a chance he's not going to play this game. Well,
Speaker 1: they were saying that today he showed up yore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean he's so good. No, it doesn't sound good.
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be I mean, but but he
Speaker 1: he said, he said yesterday that he was doing you know,
Speaker 1: everything was good. He was moving, you know, in the
Speaker 1: right direction. But I mean, you're gonna be sore. But
Speaker 1: it's just depends on how much they're going to bring
Speaker 1: it back and how much they're going to say, like,
Speaker 1: all right, today you're not You're you're not gonna do
Speaker 1: as much. Friday's a little different day because they don't
Speaker 1: practice as much. Right, So, I mean, obviously soreness, the
Speaker 1: question is is he sore or is it like the
Speaker 1: payser pain from that injury, which I think are two
Speaker 1: completely sure things. If you've kind of been a little
Speaker 1: inactive and just been rehabbing, and then you go out
Speaker 1: for a workout and you try to push it, of
Speaker 1: course your body's going to be a little bit sore
Speaker 1: trying to get back acclimated. But that's the part that
Speaker 1: I don't know that they necessarily clarified in their press
Speaker 1: conference this morning. It being Friday, the game is two
Speaker 1: days away, and it being Friday, and just by using
Speaker 1: them and again, sore, you said, you know, you can
Speaker 1: be sore, And there's a bunch of different levels to it.
Speaker 1: But the fact that that word has even been mentioned
Speaker 1: at all gives me a lot of concern and to
Speaker 1: me personally at this point. And I hate to say
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to see a backup in there.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Cooper Russia or anybody else
Speaker 1: in there. But at the same time, I feel like
Speaker 1: i'd rather rest him because there are still lots of
Speaker 1: other games to play. So I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how you guys are feeling about it at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said it before. I would have rested him,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's just it's it's an It's
Speaker 1: an injury that that I think can make it can
Speaker 1: be worse if you if you don't get it knocked out.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Michael Gallup's injury is different than you know, Dak, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it, but Michael Gallup missed what six six weeks,
Speaker 1: so you know we're talking about him Dak missing one
Speaker 1: because he probably wasn't going to play you know, if
Speaker 1: they didn't have the bye week, he probably wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: play that one. But still, well, if we're talking about
Speaker 1: it now, then definitely he wouldn't have played that one, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna play it. Now, now we're sitting at
Speaker 1: two weeks and I think it's fifty fifty, which that
Speaker 1: also is what I think worries me a little bit
Speaker 1: about all this is you listen to Dak and everybody
Speaker 1: else that was talking immediately following the New England game,
Speaker 1: and it was like, ah, he's fine, Oh he's fine,
Speaker 1: don't worry about this, he's fine, And go through the
Speaker 1: bye week, and then we get to this week and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, maybe maybe we want to
Speaker 1: check and make sure that this isn't gonna be something
Speaker 1: that's longer term. So I start to think, if he
Speaker 1: misses this game, I don't think it's necessary. I won't
Speaker 1: assume it's just one game. I will look at it
Speaker 1: and say, okay, well maybe this is if you have
Speaker 1: to kind of wait and see how this goes. Waiting
Speaker 1: and seeing how it goes could extend beyond just one game.
Speaker 1: It could be two games, it could be three games. Whatever.
Speaker 1: And that's why when everyone says, well, you know you
Speaker 1: got a longer season to worry about, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: do we know that this is only gonna be one game?
Speaker 1: If we know it's only gonna be one game, great,
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be a longer period of time anyway, Like,
Speaker 1: that's when you start affecting the rest of your season, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta lead right now in the NFC East, But
Speaker 1: it doesn't take much to to let that dwindle. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you haven't faced the probably the best team in the
Speaker 1: in the division in Washington, So I mean he still
Speaker 1: got to play them twice. All it takes is losing
Speaker 1: to them twice, and then that that changes the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So now, But but the thing about it is, I
Speaker 1: think he could probably miss this game and it would
Speaker 1: probably just be one game. He could play this game,
Speaker 1: though somewhat sore. You could miss, you could miss a
Speaker 1: lot more afterwards. What gives you hope? What gives you
Speaker 1: when you say you feel like it would only be
Speaker 1: one game, what gives you reason to believe it would
Speaker 1: just be one game? I think because we're sitting here
Speaker 1: on Friday, and it's he's gonna be questionable probably to play.
Speaker 1: So I think you give me another eight days, eight,
Speaker 1: you know, ten, ten days from here, I feel like
Speaker 1: you could probably play, you know what I mean? If
Speaker 1: it's close here, I was thinking nothing but rest and
Speaker 1: he should be fine barring a huge setback. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll have a a setback there. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna let that happen. Well, today, I was sitting in
Speaker 1: bed earlier this morning and I just took a breath
Speaker 1: and I pulled my neck and it's been hurting pretty
Speaker 1: My point is what makes me wonder, though, because reoccurring
Speaker 1: are like injuries like that, Like we've said before, you
Speaker 1: can be fine and whatever, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: just a little pool just makes it worse again, and
Speaker 1: then you're hurting now. So my point is it makes
Speaker 1: me wonder, how long, like it's a period of time,
Speaker 1: how much is enough for you toube absolutely be on
Speaker 1: the clear, not worrying about it. But again, this is
Speaker 1: the nature of football. This is what they go through,
Speaker 1: this is what they do, and you can't just bubble
Speaker 1: wrap anyone, so you gotta play at some point. But
Speaker 1: it does give me pause and into thinking, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is one of those things that it's not just the
Speaker 1: bone healing type of stuff. It's just anything can happen.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to ask you guys
Speaker 1: a little bit more about Cooper Rush and whether you
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have a good shot of winning or
Speaker 1: even a shot of winning with Cooper Rush at quarterback.
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Speaker 1: slash dc RB Welcome Back. Second segment of the Break
Speaker 1: laft Nest WBC Morrig Studios at the Start one, now
Speaker 1: joined by David Hellman after he had his h one
Speaker 1: on one probably going on twenty with Yeah, Mike McCarty,
Speaker 1: but what it might have to say? You give me
Speaker 1: anything good? Just well, I mean, obviously I heard what
Speaker 1: y'all were talking about when I came in, and funds
Speaker 1: probably not the right word so I'll say this is
Speaker 1: just a really unique circumstance where what do we talk
Speaker 1: about all the time, where we're like, what does he
Speaker 1: do on Wednesday? What does he do on Thursday? And
Speaker 1: by Friday morning, you usually have a pretty good feel
Speaker 1: one way or the other. I don't think they do. Um.
Speaker 1: I think this is going to go right up to
Speaker 1: tomorrow and Nick behind the curtain. We should probably maybe
Speaker 1: get some things ready one way or the other, because
Speaker 1: I bet we'll be on some runways somewhere. We're gonna
Speaker 1: write two stories and just have you ready. It might
Speaker 1: not be a bad idea, I really, I think this
Speaker 1: is a rare circumstance where they don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with Dak but and they won't know until
Speaker 1: I do. I think they're gonna make a decision tomorrow
Speaker 1: one way or the other. So you think by the
Speaker 1: time we're gonna play, they're gonna have aen I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're gonna put out a press release,
Speaker 1: but inside the organization, I think they're gonna know if
Speaker 1: he plays by tomorrow when they leave to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I think so. So you're saying you don't think they'll
Speaker 1: take him. No, No, I just think he can be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like like, I don't think we'll
Speaker 1: know anything tomorrow, Tomorrow, Saturday. I think it will be
Speaker 1: oh no, no no. And I think the thing is, I
Speaker 1: probably agree with you. They may not let us know,
Speaker 1: but I think they would, Davids saying he thinks they
Speaker 1: will know that I make a decision, think they will know.
Speaker 1: But you might be right, But I don't know decisions
Speaker 1: like that, you know, MVP caliber quarterback playing or not playing.
Speaker 1: I mean that that seems like something that'll get out.
Speaker 1: That seems like something that will leak somewhere to someone,
Speaker 1: whether it's us, whether it's Todd Archer with ESPN, whether
Speaker 1: it's the Dallas Morning, whether it'll be pre game on
Speaker 1: Sunday game. He's out there stretching his hit. I would
Speaker 1: be shocked if we make it even to like when
Speaker 1: we're getting dressed to go to the games, a night game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I maybe maybe you're right, Maybe it won't
Speaker 1: come out tomorrow, But my favorite, my favorite game is
Speaker 1: watch Schefter and Rappaport do their Sunday night news dumps
Speaker 1: or Saturday night news dumps. If you're still awake at
Speaker 1: like one am on Saturday night, just go take a
Speaker 1: look at their Twitter pages because they've been saving up
Speaker 1: nuggets all week and they just start bombarding the internet
Speaker 1: with their news and yeah that late Saturday night early
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I just there's no way we get to
Speaker 1: game anywhere near a game time without this being out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My only thing that would be if they're gonna actually
Speaker 1: put them on the field and just and he's like
Speaker 1: truly a game time decision, Like he truly is a
Speaker 1: get on the cords, see how how are you feeling today? Like,
Speaker 1: because because yes, you know today tomorrow, none of that
Speaker 1: really matters until how are you feeling? Then? So I
Speaker 1: wonder if if it really will be a true game
Speaker 1: time decision. But let me ask you, is it really
Speaker 1: with this injury? Is it one of those things where
Speaker 1: you're more concerned about the after effects than you are
Speaker 1: about how you feel in the moment. Right, That's where
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, Like, that's where to me, it probably isn't
Speaker 1: a game time decision because you know, he could feel
Speaker 1: great that night. It's more about, hey, do we think
Speaker 1: it's healed? Enough to where he can't well, But what
Speaker 1: have we been doing all week? Then? I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out I'm sorry, but Gala didn't do
Speaker 1: that in week two, week three. I get it. But
Speaker 1: the way they've talked about this is they're trying to
Speaker 1: make sure that this is not something that he can
Speaker 1: reinjure in a significant way to make him miss future weeks.
Speaker 1: And so my thought is it's not necessarily about how
Speaker 1: he feels in the moment as much as other things
Speaker 1: that they look at to diagnose. And again, the medical
Speaker 1: trainers would know what those if that's true, than they
Speaker 1: already do know. Ye, well, they'll know about tomorrow, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you got I mean they might. I don't
Speaker 1: get the sense that they do. And you gotta like,
Speaker 1: I'm still adapting to this, like Mike McCarthy runs his
Speaker 1: week differently than Jason Garrett did. I think in the
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett regime they would know because Thursdays the all
Speaker 1: encompassing day, and Fridays this is like it's certainly not
Speaker 1: a day off. I'm not trying to frame it that way,
Speaker 1: but it's a region day, like this is the day
Speaker 1: where you get off the field, and you get right,
Speaker 1: they technically practice tomorrow. It's more of they kind of
Speaker 1: ramp back up. Yeah, it's more of a walkthrough, but
Speaker 1: like they get on the field and do football stuff
Speaker 1: on Saturday before they leave, which Jason Garrett, Now, I
Speaker 1: mean they did walk throughs, but it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: So Saturday is much more important for this regime than
Speaker 1: it was for the last one, and so I think
Speaker 1: they will leave it till tomorrow one way or the other.
Speaker 1: So that all being said, let's assume for a second
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott cannot play. What's your level of confidence
Speaker 1: that Cooper Rush in what will be his first start
Speaker 1: in the NFL, He's only had three pass attempts and
Speaker 1: only one pass completion for two yards. What's your belief
Speaker 1: that he can actually lead this team to a win
Speaker 1: in Minnesota on Sunday night? Well, were we picking games yet?
Speaker 1: It's about the time. No, no no, no, no no, no no.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying because because when we pick the games,
Speaker 1: I don't want to We're not gonna qualify. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna say here's what I think is gonna happen as
Speaker 1: far as win loss, which will have to encompass in
Speaker 1: something in your mind who you think is going to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. So I'm just asking about what your
Speaker 1: faith is in Cooper Rush in this situation. Yeah, That's
Speaker 1: why it's kind of hard for me to go there,
Speaker 1: because my answer was not going to be different regardless
Speaker 1: of who the quarterback kid is. Um. But wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just say it right now. Well you told you
Speaker 1: told me, I already know what. It's a hell. I mean,
Speaker 1: I picked a loss that they're gonna I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose Sunday night, and that doesn't matter if Dak
Speaker 1: plays or Cooper Rush plays. I was gonna pick a
Speaker 1: loss here. So it might be what is happening? Why
Speaker 1: are we What is going on with you and me
Speaker 1: this year? I don't know. I just feel like I
Speaker 1: just feel like, well you told me that too. Well,
Speaker 1: I've had I have, I've had a feeling all week.
Speaker 1: I will say, if you could tell me right now
Speaker 1: that there's a one hundred percent chance that Dak will
Speaker 1: play and look like Dak, I would pick a win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's way too big of an if right now.
Speaker 1: And then you factor in the part where he might
Speaker 1: they're gonna have even if he plays, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to change the game plan, like they will call it
Speaker 1: differently than if he was fully healthy. So without Coop,
Speaker 1: So with Cooper Rush, you guys are saying, there's right,
Speaker 1: you don't have any That's why I want to be
Speaker 1: fair to him, because I was. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: see them coming away with a win anyway, so I
Speaker 1: certainly don't think so why is that though? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a team that you I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that Minnesota presents some unique challenges, but they're three and three,
Speaker 1: they're not unbeatable, and you got a Dallas team that
Speaker 1: is playing extremely well. So what makes you why Why
Speaker 1: were you so like sold in fact that this is
Speaker 1: going to be a nail for them? I just because
Speaker 1: they've been playing with fire and usually when you do,
Speaker 1: you get burned. I mean, like they've had three road
Speaker 1: games this year, They've all come down to the last
Speaker 1: field goal of the game. They've won two of them.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just feel like this is probably
Speaker 1: a situation where coming off of buy though I see
Speaker 1: them not winning this game, is it a tough place
Speaker 1: to play? It's more of a gut field for you.
Speaker 1: Just like you just kind of feel that's kind of
Speaker 1: what Davis saying. I mean, like you know the Cardinals that,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna lose. I mean, you have a loss
Speaker 1: at some point, what you know waiting for you. I
Speaker 1: make most of my decisions just like using the law
Speaker 1: of averages. This is an insanely hard even league. The
Speaker 1: vat like twenty six. The thirty two teams are within
Speaker 1: a touchdown of each other on any given day. It's
Speaker 1: one of the hardest environments to play in the league.
Speaker 1: I think they're better than their record indicates they are.
Speaker 1: They pushed Cincinnati and Arizona to the brink and lost
Speaker 1: those games. That's two of their three, and the other
Speaker 1: guys get paid too. It's really it's as simple as that,
Speaker 1: and it's not. It's rare, even unless you're the Belichick
Speaker 1: Brady Patriots. It's rare, rare to win more than like
Speaker 1: five games in a row like that gets broken. I'm
Speaker 1: just on an amazing streak that this is just the
Speaker 1: law of averages. Is they're gonna lose here? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick is perfectly right. Everybody's like, how good luck, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: How are you gonna win this with none of your
Speaker 1: receivers going on the road against the only under five teams.
Speaker 1: Oh they won, Yeah, they won because it's the NFL
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. Soon as you're convinced of something,
Speaker 1: it will flip on you. Yeah, no doubt. It's it's
Speaker 1: screw the law of average. There we go, screw the law.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Would have picked the Cowboys to win, definitely
Speaker 1: not picking them With this Dak situation, I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Even if he plays, I'm still kind of feel I
Speaker 1: don't think he would be able to be himself. But
Speaker 1: you know what, they have a quarterback, backup quarterback. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's just it's not working for me. So we haven't
Speaker 1: actually answered your question. I don't want to dog Cooper rush,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys run game is powerful enough, their line
Speaker 1: is good enough, and Minnesota's run defense is not a
Speaker 1: great run defense. I can see a path to victory.
Speaker 1: I can see it. Cooper makes You got to make
Speaker 1: three to five great throws. Your receivers can help you
Speaker 1: with that. The line's got to control the game. You
Speaker 1: gotta pound the rock. It would have to be like
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty or more rushing yards type of
Speaker 1: night I see it, and then then whatever you get
Speaker 1: from the defense, some takeaways would be nice. It would
Speaker 1: just it would be hard for me to even hope
Speaker 1: for that, let alone expect it. He's thrown three passes
Speaker 1: in his career in the regular season. They were all
Speaker 1: in garbage time of blowouts. And Minnesota is a good
Speaker 1: team at Daniel Hunter, Everson Griffin looks like himself again,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson. I mean, go down the list of their defense,
Speaker 1: and then obviously the Minnesota's offense is much more at
Speaker 1: full capacity with all their guys available to them. I
Speaker 1: just I can see it. But I have your contacting Yeah,
Speaker 1: why because like you're saying, I see things. I keep saying,
Speaker 1: you're seeing stuff out all if I didn't have my
Speaker 1: contact and I wouldn't be able to see anything. So
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Speaker 1: the Star. The other big, I guess storyline around this
Speaker 1: game is the offensive line. You got Lyle Collins returning,
Speaker 1: but you don't know whether he's playing. You don't know
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be playing. Here's my question for you guys,
Speaker 1: if you had to going into this game, um, and
Speaker 1: and you can factor in if you think Dak's gonna
Speaker 1: play or not, what do you think is the optimal
Speaker 1: offensive line line up for this week? I think, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't feel bad about picking the loss here.
Speaker 1: You don't know who the health quarterback is going to be.
Speaker 1: You don't know who the left guard is gonna be.
Speaker 1: You don't know who the right well, you do they do?
Speaker 1: I think they know the offensive line. You can't convince
Speaker 1: me they don't know what they're gonna do with the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Well, they're not picking my gut feeling. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking it, so I don't point. So that's why this is.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll change this week. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's exact same as it's been. I think it'll
Speaker 1: be the same five we've seen since Lyle got some
Speaker 1: right decision. Yeah right now, I think I think I
Speaker 1: think Connor is getting dogged, not unfairly. He was. He
Speaker 1: had a rough night against New England, but that was
Speaker 1: really the lone outlier. But I do. I mean, Lyle's
Speaker 1: playing guard to spur him. They're like, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: the that's the weakness on the line right now. And
Speaker 1: I think Lyle's taking reps over there to foster competition.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be the same. But if he doesn't
Speaker 1: pick it up, I think Lyle will be the left
Speaker 1: guard next week or maybe even at some point in
Speaker 1: this game. If Connor struggles, I think he'll play his
Speaker 1: best game. Connor O Connor. I haven't feeling he will,
Speaker 1: just you know, that's how the stuff. That's that's why
Speaker 1: you do this stuff. Like ideally, I mean Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: wants to play, but the coaching staff wants to light
Speaker 1: a fire under him and have him pissed off and
Speaker 1: play great. Yeah, that's what I think. And I think
Speaker 1: Terren Steel is the starter in the right tackle. I
Speaker 1: think that they just don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even a question. So let me
Speaker 1: throw this option at you guys, looking at the fact
Speaker 1: that if Dak doesn't play. We talked about the running game.
Speaker 1: We talked about the fact that Minnesota doesn't have a
Speaker 1: great run defense. Do you think that there is an
Speaker 1: advantage to a guy like Lyle Collins at left guard
Speaker 1: because he's more powerful, You probably can get a little
Speaker 1: more out of your running games, certainly in short yardage.
Speaker 1: You would think with him and Tiring there together, you
Speaker 1: could really really get some push, which is something they
Speaker 1: haven't been able to get. Do you think this is
Speaker 1: actually a week where it makes more sense, maybe more
Speaker 1: so than other weeks for them to maybe make that change,
Speaker 1: especially maybe I like where you're going, especially if Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush has to play, because you're to some degree you're
Speaker 1: going to be telegraphing your game plan. You just to
Speaker 1: take the ball out of the quarterback's hand and then
Speaker 1: his bullyball. So you got to be able to line
Speaker 1: up and just say we're gonna run the ball, and
Speaker 1: you can't stop us if Cooper Rush plays. I see
Speaker 1: the validity of that. I don't know. I like I said,
Speaker 1: I lean toward thinking Connor is going to start this
Speaker 1: game regardless. But but we'll see da Dak said he
Speaker 1: had his best practice as a pro yesterday. Oh lil wow.
Speaker 1: I mean at what position? I had a good question.
Speaker 1: Probably both. Honestly, they're all and they're also tight like
Speaker 1: their homies. So, um, I don't I don't know, I
Speaker 1: would assume. So yeah, what I mean he did. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he would out to say this is what
Speaker 1: Dax has been saying, Like it's just that's his boy.
Speaker 1: Like Actually, Dak said he was asked about the testimony
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I'm basically I said what
Speaker 1: I said. Maybe I'd prefer for that not to have
Speaker 1: been made public, but I'm trying to help my buddy out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I the thing is is, you know, Zack Martin
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play like he made it clear he
Speaker 1: didn't want to play right tackle. He's a right guard.
Speaker 1: He didn't really want to play right tackle, So it
Speaker 1: obviously is a big difference in the position. I do
Speaker 1: think the bullyball, yeah, I think Lyle Collins can be
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. But he hasn't done it in
Speaker 1: five or six years. I just don't think that he
Speaker 1: will be ready to go in and just unsee Connor
Speaker 1: Williams right now. He hasn't done it forever. He hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced and now a sudden he's gonna come in and
Speaker 1: now he's gonna practice guard. I mean, And that's I
Speaker 1: think that's something that maybe over time will I agree.
Speaker 1: And that's I mean again, it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: Dak's calf, Like if they were if they were two
Speaker 1: and what's the X five and one, if they were
Speaker 1: three and three and then kind of feel it or
Speaker 1: even two and four and you can kind of feel
Speaker 1: it slipping away. Dak's playing, no questions asked. If the
Speaker 1: offensive line was a freaking mess and nobody can stay healthy,
Speaker 1: Lyle is playing, no questions asked. But they're remarkably healthy.
Speaker 1: They have an insane amount of healthy depth on their
Speaker 1: offensive line right now, So no rush what I mean,
Speaker 1: if Connor continues to struggle, you maybe plug him in
Speaker 1: over there. But having the best swing tackle in football
Speaker 1: ain't a bad thing right now. And not to bring
Speaker 1: a dark cloud in here, but you can't ever rule
Speaker 1: out the possibility of Tyron getting banged up a little
Speaker 1: bit or something bothering him in the middle of the
Speaker 1: game and he has to go out for a little bit.
Speaker 1: So at that point, I mean, that is you plug
Speaker 1: him in. That is such a good point. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Patriots game feels like a lifetime ago, but Tyrone
Speaker 1: missed some time. He had to go back to the
Speaker 1: locker room, and we've said a million times since the
Speaker 1: year started, like that's always going to be in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind with Tyrone, probably for the rest
Speaker 1: of his career. So let's assume for second stept that
Speaker 1: happened to Tyren in game. Do you think they and
Speaker 1: this is assuming he's even active, do you think they
Speaker 1: would slide in Zeki in there? Because you're talking about
Speaker 1: the other two guys who really haven't had any time
Speaker 1: working at left tackle this year. I don't think unless
Speaker 1: they've done it in practice where we couldn't see it.
Speaker 1: You think they would just slide in Zeki in there
Speaker 1: in that kind of situation. I'm not talking about a
Speaker 1: prolonged injury over weeks. I'm saying just in game game
Speaker 1: this week, do you think Tyan Seki is the best option?
Speaker 1: At that point? Somebody's gonna have to be inactive, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: And to think, well, especially your quarterbacks. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna they're probably gonna have three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: unless they are just so confident in Dak being out
Speaker 1: that if they go with Cooper Rush, you think they'd
Speaker 1: still have Dak active? Is that what you're saying? No,
Speaker 1: probably not right. So you still gotta have this too, right,
Speaker 1: I've seen that happen before. It's not good. No, you
Speaker 1: gotta you got everybody because everybody's kind of like, man,
Speaker 1: like we're down. If you just know, yeah you can
Speaker 1: if you decide he's not gonna play, you gotta make
Speaker 1: him an active because yeah, the Minnesota takes a ten
Speaker 1: nothing lead and all of a sudden for everybody on
Speaker 1: the sidelines thinking like can we get four in? Yeah? Dressed? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I I hear what you're saying. If if they
Speaker 1: can find a way to get him active. I bet
Speaker 1: they would do that, But me personally, as a not
Speaker 1: football coach, I'd rather just throw Elsie out there. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I know you haven't done it, but you're really good.
Speaker 1: I'd rather you play left tackle. Yeah, all right. We're
Speaker 1: apreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 1: I think we've picked our game at this point. I
Speaker 1: think you're picking a win. I am picking one. I
Speaker 1: know you are. I am picking it now less, yes,
Speaker 1: because I actually the way I look at it is
Speaker 1: the question I ask you guys earlier. I think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are good enough running the ball that this
Speaker 1: could be a game where some of the what they
Speaker 1: did last night, what the Packers day last night, you
Speaker 1: can slow this game down. You can run the ball,
Speaker 1: and you can run the ball effectively, regardless of who's
Speaker 1: that quarterback. And I think that can be the way
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys who win this game. And I still
Speaker 1: am like, this is a three and three team versus
Speaker 1: a five and one team. I think Dallas has a
Speaker 1: better team. I've spent too much time with Nick over
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, first of all, no, well, first
Speaker 1: of all, we're starting to agree a lot more often
Speaker 1: than we ever have. And second of all, I don't
Speaker 1: like it, but I just I also, I just I
Speaker 1: can imagine Nick saying this because I know he has
Speaker 1: like the more we talk about this, and like, so
Speaker 1: three of us are picking them to lose, Dak's gonna
Speaker 1: play and he's gonna play his ass off and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like the Calf game. You know he's gonna
Speaker 1: But I also know Nick. I also know Nick is
Speaker 1: very much the kind of person that if things are
Speaker 1: going well for too long, he starts getting like blah blah,
Speaker 1: whoa something's gonna happen like and so I see when
Speaker 1: he said that, I was like, this is like, this
Speaker 1: is vintage Nick, like five weeks of winning. Now everything
Speaker 1: about this is telling Nick and this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a loss is like red lights flashing. I've only seen
Speaker 1: one winning streak longer than you know. They won ten
Speaker 1: and sixteen. I think they won six and fourteen. I
Speaker 1: probably was picking losses there about right. Yeah, five to
Speaker 1: certain points like something in Pittsburgh, Five or six in
Speaker 1: a row is at the most that you could realistically
Speaker 1: hope for in the NFL. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 1: possible to win a lot more than that, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. See what the cowboys have done,
Speaker 1: and think they've given him PTSD like and everybody listening
Speaker 1: is nodding along like yeah, like you start looking around
Speaker 1: corners for Boogeyman. Right, But if he plays or not,
Speaker 1: I've said it all week. I don't think he'll be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think he'll be kind of hobbling
Speaker 1: a little bit. And uh no, I just I think
Speaker 1: this is probably going to be a loss. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we will see. We'll be there Sunday night. If it's not,
Speaker 1: it's because he plays and balls, which I'm okay being
Speaker 1: wrong if that's what we get to watch. But what
Speaker 1: I do like about this is we've gotten a chance
Speaker 1: to see them in different scenarios and see them play
Speaker 1: well in different types of scenarios. Okay, so let's see
Speaker 1: what they can do in a scenario like this where
Speaker 1: you don't have your quarterback if he doesn't play, and
Speaker 1: can you find a way to win in that kind
Speaker 1: of situation? Can you find a way to make the
Speaker 1: offense move in that kind of situation where you know
Speaker 1: that it's going to require them to be really good
Speaker 1: in the run game. So it'll be a good opportunity
Speaker 1: for us to just see this team and see them
Speaker 1: in different scenarios, and we'll see what happens Sunday night.
Speaker 1: So then for Nick Even, Dave Helman, Amber Garcia, I
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