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Speaker 1: to start this episode by saying a very heartfelt thank

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Speaker 1: you to one miss Amy Robock and with that, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this very special edition of Amy and tj

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Speaker 1: Are Morning Run edition is kind of a marathon edition.

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Speaker 1: Here now, but Robock and I, if you can give

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Speaker 1: the description of what's right outside our window and just

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Speaker 1: set the scene for a second here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are in our Chicago hotel room. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it's right across from Ridley Field.

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Speaker 1: It's gorgeous looking at the Cubs flags flying in the wind.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and there was some rain and some wind. It's cold,

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Speaker 2: the morning after that we were expecting to have after

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Speaker 2: and exuberance and gratitude, and we have some of those

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Speaker 1: Uh, frustration, I guess is a good word, but I

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Speaker 1: mean this robes and you don't know this. At some

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Speaker 1: point I was just looking at you while you were

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Speaker 1: asleep last night. But you you performed in a way

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Speaker 1: yesterday that was I can't think of anybody besides my

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Speaker 1: when I was desperate, So this wasn't We just picked

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Speaker 1: but I needed help, and you I just helped. But

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Speaker 1: you sacrificed something that was Jesus, that was very important

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Speaker 1: to you in order to stay with me. So I

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yesterday I was begging you to keep running,

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Speaker 1: loved you before we started. I didn't know how possible

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Speaker 1: it was to love and adore and appreciate you more.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say it to you plenty yesterday, but i'll

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Speaker 1: say it here again. Just thank you for what you

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Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that. But I told you at the

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Speaker 2: and you did. You begged me multiple times please keep running,

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Speaker 2: slow down for me. When you were so far behind

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Speaker 2: his things have started to take a turn. For his words,

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Speaker 2: his achilles, we I think we've been talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows you were struggling with an injury. And it

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Speaker 2: And what I told you, and I know this rang

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Speaker 2: I actually almost started crying, and you talked me down.

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Speaker 2: You said, Robes, we are going to be fine. We

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Speaker 1: That's where I turned to you while we were running

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Speaker 2: In the nick of time.

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Speaker 1: And at that point they get scared because they think

434
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Speaker 1: something else is going on with me, that I do

435
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: need to get to a hospital. And so that's when

436
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: they put.

437
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: On the sirens, the sirens.

438
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: So here I am me, proud me in a damn

439
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: ambulance with the damn lights on, sirens going through the

440
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: streets of Chicago while the marathon is still going on.

441
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking about I know you, and I know

442
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: how proud you are, and I know that that was

443
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: not at all what you thought was going to be happening,

444
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: or could you You could not even have imagined. This

445
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: was like a worst case not worst case scenario, but

446
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: among them it was tough.

447
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: But to end up in an ambulance and out of

448
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: wood and have I thought they were getting into the

449
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: transport I and what did the young lady tell us?

450
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: She said, you're pushing and you're upset, and you're this

451
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: and that. Let me tell you why we're doing our job.

452
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: But just a short time ago, another guy was pushing

453
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: himself and he had a heart attack on the on

454
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Speaker 1: the course.

455
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: And it didn't sound like it went well. She said,

456
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: he was pushing himself, he was low on salt low

457
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: on electrolytes. He went down, but then he went into

458
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: cardiac arrest, and she said, that is what happens.

459
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Speaker 1: You know this.

460
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 2: Marathons are are serious. They are dangerous even if you

461
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: if you aren't exactly where you need to be health wise,

462
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: if you haven't done the training, if you haven't had

463
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 2: the right if you haven't had the right fluids, if

464
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: you haven't had the right fuel, all of those things matter,

465
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: and this is why they have medical personnel lining the

466
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: streets every time you see a marathon. I don't think

467
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: any of us ever expect us to be the patients.

468
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: And I think it's going through your head. I mean,

469
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: how many times have we seen this happen to other people?

470
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: And now here you are a part of those numbers,

471
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: And it's not where anyone wants to be. And sometimes

472
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: you can't anticipate it. Sometimes you can't do anything about it.

473
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: And thank god, those amazing people are there to help

474
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: folks push themselves in a healthy, amazing way. But it

475
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: can be scary in moments, and yes, I think pretty

476
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: much every marathon I've been in there have been moments

477
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: like that where people have died, people have come close.

478
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: To die half wa in Brooklyn. I ran and God

479
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: dropped it right before the or before the finish line.

480
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: I remember my daughter was at that thing, right. I

481
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: think it drove it home to her a little more.

482
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: This is I think it's running has been. Yes, it's

483
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: mentally difficult, but physically it's been fairly easy. For me.

484
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: It hasn't been I haven't had major issues and I've

485
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: been able to do it. And this time around, you

486
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: all were in the ambulance. I didn't get it necessarily,

487
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: but I don't know how important and serious it was.

488
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: That the vitals she was trying to get and couldn't get,

489
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: and then I was shaking. And then she said, my

490
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: body is reacting to the pain and trying to adjust.

491
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: That's healthy. So it was good for me to be vomiting.

492
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: She says, your body is reacting the right way. I

493
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't get all that, but she was quite concerned.

494
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: She was, oh, your blood pressure was very high when

495
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: you first got in, and yeah, they couldn't get They

496
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: couldn't get a lot of your vitals because you were

497
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: shaking so violently and you were so cold, they couldn't

498
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: actually get it to read. And then when they finally

499
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: got you settled. Then we went to the medical tent

500
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 2: and they wanted to take you on a stretcher, and

501
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: that certainly would have been easier, but I knew there

502
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: was no way you were going in that stretcher. So

503
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: those two young ladies and me we all got you

504
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: to the medical tent and they checked.

505
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: You to carry.

506
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: We didn't carry you assisted.

507
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: My arm was around you from the time we stopped

508
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: until we got back to the hotel, probably as a crutch.

509
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: I was your crutch, but.

510
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: I I and this is the crazy thing, and anybody

511
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: who runs will is a marathon or certainly will get it.

512
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: Before we even got back to the hotel, my thought

513
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: was all about, man, I gotta get healthy for the

514
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: New York City Marathon in three weeks. That's happening. I'm

515
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: running that marathon in three weeks. I can't wait. In fact,

516
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: we go back to New York today. I can't wait

517
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: to go possibly for a run tomorrow. My knee is

518
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: my problem. It's it's swollen, it is not well, and

519
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: it hurts. But this is I feel like an injury

520
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: I've dealt with, but and I know how to fix this.

521
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: Achilles will continue to heal but I cannot wait to

522
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: get back out there because I'm so frustrated with what

523
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: happened here in Chicago, which was a great trip. We

524
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: were here, got here early, planned it all. We put

525
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: together this nice program. I had Miss USA on and

526
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: a live taping of our podcast that you all were

527
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: here at some point. Everything was working, had family friends here,

528
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: everything we were resting the way we should have. Everything

529
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: was good until that morning.

530
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had our lovely pasta dinner the night before.

531
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: We had done everything correctly, I know, and I had

532
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: said that I was going to cheer you on in

533
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: New York, which I still will, but I am now debating,

534
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying anything if I'm going to or not.

535
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: But because I'm trained, because I put in those five months,

536
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: just go ahead and make the call. No, I don't.

537
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to make the call yet because it's

538
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: still you know, I ran twenty one miles, and that's

539
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: like our training Our last big training run is usually

540
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: twenty miles, So we did twenty one miles. So I

541
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: am not thinking that I may possibly. I had always

542
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: kind of put it out there that I might run

543
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: New York, and now I'm thinking.

544
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, commit.

545
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: I'm not going to commit yet because I don't know

546
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: that I want to.

547
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm running.

548
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: I know you're running, and I'll definitely cheer you on.

549
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: Then I don't need a cheerleader. Obviously, I need a nurse.

550
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: So you have. Obviously you have.

551
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: I need to be there just in case.

552
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, mean, how could you let me run this thing

553
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: by myself?

554
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I will make the call in the next day or

555
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: two based on what my health. No, No, based on

556
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: my mental health, because it's a lot, you know, I

557
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: think part of me I had said that I was

558
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: thinking that the Chicago Marathon might be my last marathon

559
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: because it just does take such a toll on your body.

560
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: I love me a half marathon, and I will continue

561
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: to run half marathons. But a marathon is not just

562
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: twice as hard as a half marathon. I would say

563
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: it's like ten times as hard as a half marathon,

564
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: because that last half is not comparable to the first

565
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: half in any way, shape or form. So I just

566
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: you know, we have a lot of travel, we have

567
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: a lot of really fun and exciting things to do

568
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks, and I thought I'd

569
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: be done with the training, like I love a four miler.

570
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: I love a three miler. I didn't think i'd be,

571
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: you know, tapering down from a twenty miler getting ready

572
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: for another marathon. So I just have to get in

573
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: that headspace. And I'm not there yet, but I think

574
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: in a couple of days, I'll know what my decision

575
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: is and I'll stick with it either way.

576
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Speaker 1: I am. I am so all in and could not wait.

577
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to get shoes on. I cannot wait

578
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: to run again. I cannot wait to get back out there.

579
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: But to the next three weeks, it's nothing but health

580
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: and rest and recovery and some doctor's visits.

581
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: Probably, and a lot of travel, yes, and then fun travel.

582
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Look, we sign up for that, we do that. This

583
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: was one of the things that gave me perspective yesterday.

584
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: You know, people will have those funny signs out, but

585
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: there was one. I'm sure you've seen it before. If

586
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: you saw yesterday, they said, why are you complaining? You

587
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: paid money to do this, and we do you pay

588
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: to enter a marathon and you're out here putting yourself

589
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: through this voluntarily, So who are you going to complain to?

590
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: And the other thing was my sister bringing perspective home

591
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: is that your God has been trying to tell you

592
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: for a while now not to run this marathon. Every

593
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: step of the way, even yesterday, there were signs that

594
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: something ain't right. This is just not going your way today.

595
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: And in myle that thirteen point one guy finally said, Ah, right, DJ,

596
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: you ain't listen, So let me throw this all can

597
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: dude in your face and let me force you to

598
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: stop since you won't make the decision and listen to

599
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: the signs that I was giving you in the first place.

600
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: That was the advice and the council for my sister.

601
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: And how do you think that works with you now

602
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: wanting to run in New York?

603
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: This is what I think. I think I should never

604
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: run a race outside of New York again, because I

605
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: have two marathons and five half marathons under my belt,

606
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: all of them run in New York City, every single

607
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: one of them. This is my first attempt at a

608
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: race outside of New York. I just need to go

609
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: home and everything. I'll be fine. I just need to

610
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: go home.

611
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.

612
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: This is the conclusion I have. But thank you to

613
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Yes the volunteer there. We can't remember her name. The

614
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: police officer who was great. It's funny. He was trying

615
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: to this is how I don't know if I don't this.

616
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I had this moment. I almost made the joke, but

617
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. He was trying to help us. He gave

618
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: me a bottle of water, and then he kept saying, hey, man,

619
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: you just want to sit in my.

620
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: Car here his car was kept asking you if you

621
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: wanted to sit in the car. Didn't want to be

622
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 2: in the back of a police car.

623
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to swear to god, I had that joke.

624
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: He was a white officer, nicest dude.

625
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: But and there, you know what, there was also really

626
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: a sweet I don't know that you even knew this

627
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: was going on, but there was a family right in

628
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: front of us who were cheering on. I'm sure a

629
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: friend or a family member who was running in the marathon.

630
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: But this this man, he was you know, middle aged guy,

631
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: saw what was going on. He goes, can I get

632
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: you some water? I said, actually, that'd be great because

633
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: I saw the situation you were in and I could

634
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: tell you were depleted. I also was pretty thirsty myself,

635
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: and he said, let me go find some for you.

636
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: He was running into different stores trying to get water.

637
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: And that's when the police officer had a cold bottle

638
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: of water in the back of his vehicle, so he

639
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: gave it to us. But the man like was literally

640
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: running around trying to help us. I mean, people are

641
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: so kind. I think people get the kind of physical

642
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: stress we're all under it, and it's just it's so

643
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: heartwarming to see people rise up and rush around trying

644
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: to help you, trying to do something, and you know they.

645
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Do then along the way that, yeah, there are some

646
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: official stands and whatnot, but a lot of people just

647
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: come out there on their own and just bring a

648
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: box of tissue, or they'll cut some bananas in half

649
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: or the tangerines that we had, or on their own,

650
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: because you have no idea how much that means to

651
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: somebody on miles sixteen to just be handed a twizzler

652
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: or to be handed a pretzel, or to be handled

653
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: a banana.

654
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so grateful for that quarter banana, and

655
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: I was so grateful for that tangerine because that like,

656
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: right then, you're just you're so depleted, and it's that's

657
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: exactly what you want and exactly what you need. So

658
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: we appreciate those folks so much. Wait, can I also

659
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: can we end with something that's a little funny.

660
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: I will in a second after I'll let the after

661
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: I say thank you to the young lady that gave

662
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: me the damn croissant.

663
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh all right, I remember that again.

664
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: If that young lady here's my voice, I would appreciate

665
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: you reaching out. You don't know how bad I was

666
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: suffering in the moment, Like my stomach was almost cramping.

667
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: I did not eat a single bit of anything, and

668
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: I was a woman either had to stand on our own.

669
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Young lady brunette and had a big old bagel croissant

670
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: in her hand and I reached for just to tear

671
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: it off, and it wouldn't tear. And again I'm stealing

672
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: stride and she's kind of moving with me, and she said,

673
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: just take it, take it, And I took a whole

674
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: croissant and I'm running in the marathon. Yeah.

675
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: At that point again, like I'm kind of embarrassed by this.

676
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: This was my sixth marathon. How do I not fuel

677
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: before a marathon? Well, I just put all of my

678
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: eggs in one basket and assumed I was going to

679
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: because we were in a hotel room, Like if we

680
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: were at our house we were leaving to your point

681
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: from New York City, I would have had my peanut

682
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: butter toast. I would have had my electrolytes. I would

683
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: have done all of that even before going to the

684
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: tent in Staten Island. I would have been prepped. But

685
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: because I'm in a hotel room and then nothing was

686
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: open at that point, I thought, I'll just get everything

687
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: I need. We'll get everything we need from that tent.

688
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: But we've never had this problem before that we couldn't

689
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: get to the tent.

690
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: I've never had this happen before a week. So you

691
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: were looking at me. I don't know at what point

692
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: you said, ropes, I'm actually starving, like my stomach is growling,

693
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: and I said, so is mine. And so when you

694
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: got that croissant, you're right, that was a moment and

695
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: you were so happy that you had that croissant.

696
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to mention the surgery you've been doing

697
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: on I forgot about that. Oh, yes, was a disaster.

698
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: You want to tell everybody what was going on.

699
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the name of it is.

700
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Well, you have a planter's wart. Okay, it's I know

701
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: this because when I was a gymnast and you're in

702
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: like hot, sweaty environments, this is what happens. Bacteria somehow

703
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: gets into your foot and you get a planter's wort

704
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: and they're extremely painful. My guess was because you were

705
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: putting your your foot like multiple times a day into

706
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: hot water constantly, you could have introduced bacteria into your

707
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: foot from your hands or whatever, and you ended up

708
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: with a very painful planters wart. So while we're in Chicago,

709
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: I go and get the compound w freezer freezing a

710
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: like a planter's wart removal where you actually have like

711
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: this cartridge where it's like a frozen like blast of air.

712
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: And so we've been trying to treat that as well

713
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: while we're in the hotel room.

714
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: And if you've never had one of these, it literally

715
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: does in the place it is on my foot. It

716
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: feels like you are suppose you put a marble in

717
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: your sock on one spot, leave it there, and every

718
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: step you take you have something pressing, just a sharp pain,

719
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: and it's on my footwork you.

720
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Were falling apart. It was you were falling apart. So wait,

721
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: so here's the here's the you know where here? You

722
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: know where I'm going. On top of the day, this

723
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: was I mean, you can't make this up. So I

724
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: am you are like leaning on me, your arms around me.

725
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not dragging you, but I am helping

726
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: you walk.

727
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: And this is after the tent medical tent. We're finally

728
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: walking and I'm finally going to get back to the hotel,

729
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: which is the only place I want to be.

730
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: That's true, but it took quite a bit of effort.

731
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: If you've ever seen what it's like in the aftermath

732
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: of any race, but especially a marathon, you have to

733
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: go blocks and blocks and blocks where everything's been shut

734
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: down to get to a place where you could even

735
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: get an uber or get on a train. We were

736
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: going to take the train, but after everything that happened,

737
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care how much this uber costs.

738
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: We're getting an uber back to the hotel. So as

739
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: we're getting to the spot where the uber is going

740
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: to pick us up, all of a sudden, TJ looks

741
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: at me and he says, Ropes, you got to help me.

742
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: I was like, what he said? A bird just shit

743
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: on my head And I was like what, And sure, enough.

744
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: You were wrapped around in this hospital blanket. I look

745
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: and you just have bird crap on your forehead going down.

746
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. So in a final

747
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: ha ha ha ha, a bird shit on your head

748
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: right as we were getting into the uber to go

749
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: back to the hotel. It was just yes, the cherry

750
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: on top of a tough day.

751
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm running New York. I might so I will be

752
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: there at the starting line of New York. It's going

753
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: to happen. So next three weeks, just need to get healthy.

754
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: But I can't say it enough to everybody who helped

755
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: us out yesterday. And I can't say it enough to you.

756
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: I was losing. I didn't know what to say, I

757
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: didn't know how to feel in here yesterday you were

758
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: sleep and I was just staring at you like you

759
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: you and I say it about my mom. I can't

760
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: remember anyone who who so who so selfishly took care

761
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: of me in a moment that I needed. As much

762
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: help as I needed. I could have made it, could

763
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: have figured it out, could have got who knows, but

764
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: you and it it cleared, and it included a great

765
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: deal of sacrifice, because I know what it takes to

766
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: get prepared for a parathon, and that you didn't finish

767
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: it and we're willing to not to for the sake

768
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: of my whatever was going on with me, that was

769
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: just that was that was like, I can't thinking you

770
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: is not right, It's just it. I don't know. This

771
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: isn't a tryout for you necessarily, but if it were,

772
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: you were already really in there robes. But man, you

773
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: you showed out yesterday in terms of being a partner,

774
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: and a partner is willing to sacrifice in a way

775
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: that that I know meant so much to you. So

776
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: really thank you.

777
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, You're welcome, and I love you, and that is

778
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: what love is. And if you didn't know, or you

779
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: didn't fully trust how much I love you, if anything,

780
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: if yesterday proved that to you, then it was worth it.

781
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: And for me, it wasn't even a choice. It wasn't

782
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: even an option. I didn't even consider the other option.

783
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine running and finishing it and getting

784
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: my metal and feeling good about it, knowing that you

785
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: were in pain somewhere.

786
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Needing help with you with a metal at least one,

787
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: you know what?

788
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: I get that because I reversed it in my mind

789
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: and said I would have wanted you to finish, And

790
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: I get that, and I understood that you desperately wanted

791
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: me to finish because that would make you feel less guilty.

792
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: It feels awful enough not finishing it yourself, but to

793
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: think that somehow you you cause someone else not to finish.

794
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: I understand how that makes you feel worse in the moment.

795
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: But in the end, you needed help, and I love you,

796
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to be anywhere else but by

797
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: your side and making sure you were okay. And I

798
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to live with myself. I would

799
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: have felt like the worst person in the world. So

800
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't an option because you needed me.

801
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: And that's that's what partnership is, That's what love is.

802
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: You show up no matter what, and you stick with

803
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: that person no matter what. And I know and you

804
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: know that you would have done the exact same thing

805
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: for me.

806
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to find a joke to make there,

807
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: but I would have probably maybe, Well, yes, that's when

808
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: I needed you and you were there for me, and

809
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: I'll need you again November second for the New York

810
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: City Marathons.

811
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: Well maybe I'll need you, so I hope I don't

812
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: ever have to ask you to return the favor.

813
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Well, folks, thank you all again to the folks here

814
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: in Chicago who took such good care of us from

815
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: the moment we got here until it all ended yesterday.

816
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: So thank you all to the volunteers. Thank you for

817
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: the city of Chicago. We hope to see you all

818
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: sooner than later. And thank you all to some of you.

819
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: All have been reaching out on social media and with

820
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: your well wishes and asking questions. I do appreciate it.

821
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: So we'll get into this more. But the training starts anew.

822
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess we could say thank you

823
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: for joining us on our afternoon run. We'll be back

824
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: with you tomorrow for our normally or regularly scheduled morning run.

825
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: So until then, we'll see you tomorrow