1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Now, I know I'm gonna lose some golf points for 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: saying this, but I'm not particularly good at carving. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Jack O Lanterns. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: Good mornings, Sweet Weld, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, October twenty sixth I'm j. E. Skeets, 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: and alongside me, as always, we got Tax Mellis. Hey, everybody, Hey, 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Tassy back from camping from the week. We got the 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: Bearded one, Trey Kirby hel Hey, We've got the international 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: man of mystery taking it to the max Leyellis friend, last, 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: but not least, making the magic happen. 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: JD. 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Hello, there he is here. We are all five of 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: us back together, at least virtually. Trey, how was camping? 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: Were their bass in those lakes that you were at? 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 5: The camping was great, the nature was great, vacation was great, 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: the family was great. 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Fishing was tough, Skeets. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: You know all the local rednecks report that there's bass 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: in that lake, but it is tough to catch him. 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 5: The guy in the stump blaster truck with the Alabama 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: flags told me, my daddy's been out here for three days. 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: He ain't cut no, and it was the same for me. 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: I had a big top water explosion on the whopper plopper. 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: But that's it. That's one of the worries when you're 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: fishing top water skeets. You're gonna miss more fish than 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: you hit. Just short striked me. But hey, it's all 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: about the nature out there. It's about the journey. It's 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: not all about the lips. Sometimes that's what you say 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 5: when you're a fisherman. You don't catch anything, it's all 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: about it's all something else's fault. You know, the weather 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 5: was wrong, or maybe the location was wrong. I was 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: a little too overcast, maybe my colors were off. I'm 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: not used to the clear water. Whatever it was, there 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: were bass in there. I didn't get them, are you. 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Telling them not? No? 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 5: No, lips were ripped, zero lips, zero lips, zero ellips. 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 5: But you know, a giant lake, what are you gonna do. 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: We saw some bald eagles. It was awesome. We saw 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of carp jumping. Couldn't get them. But 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: we were doing our best out there, and we honestly 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: just had an incredible time. But yeah, I've been scouting 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 5: other lakes in the region you know, we were about 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 5: four hours away in Tennessee Center Hill Lake. 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: No luck. But we're driving back. 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: I see Chickamauga Lake where the guys from Tactical bassin 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 5: just relocated. We're talking Matt Allen and Tim little Are. 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 5: They're ripping lips themselves. I gotta get out with those guys. 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: They know what they're doing. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: This guy is so into fishing, it's unbelievable. Okay, I'm 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: sad to hear you didn't anything any lips, but that's okay. 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: It looked from your photos or the videos I saw. Yeah, 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: the camping itself or the nature looked pretty incredible. So 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a great week off. Yes, this 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: week's no dunk schedule. Just before we get into it here, 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: this Wednesday, we're bringing back Squad. We got a good 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: one Halloween right around the corner. Could you believe it? Yeah, 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: me neither. But we're doing a special Squad Halloween episode. 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: We're talking candy, we're talking songs, movies and more in 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: our very fun draft episode. So that's coming up on Wednesday. 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: Then later in the week, Lee, I think you're popping 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: packs with somebody special. Am Internet legend. 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: And Internet legend. 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: Yes, the biggest San Antonio Spurs fan of the world. 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Chais Serana Thursday, three pm Eastern, So look forward to 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: that one. It should be exciting stuff. 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll flip that into a podcast. I'm sure 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: maybe on Friday we'll get that up. He was fantastic 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: on the Who Wants Some Trivia with Me? So I 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: can only imagine he's gonna be great popping packs. 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right, And. 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: Look, I don't want to lock in this other one, 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: but we might have another special guest we're working on 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: for another podcast later in the week. If we can 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: land it, it will be great. Oh that's your hints? 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: What's your hints? 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: What are you cooking up there for it? 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 6: Oh? 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: Put it at three fifty so we'll see, we'll see. 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: It's not locked in yet, but we got squad for sure. 80 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: We got to pop in packs. Maybe this other special one. 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: But today let's get right into the updown Report. Yeah, 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: the updown Report. We got a lot to talk about 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: here suddenly and once again and this one, who jd 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: they want to just walk away from this little news here. 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear your take later on. But on Friday, 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Shams and other reporters. They said that the league's Board 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: of Governors is pursuing a December twenty second start for 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: next season, yes pre Christmas, like ten weeks from now. 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: Among other changes being discussed right now are a seventy 90 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: two game regular season, not waiting for fans to be 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: permitted into the arenas, as well as tournaments and play 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: in scenarios. It's it's sort of all being discussed. The 93 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: players Association will have to agree on that. They're not 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of time. This is going to 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: have to come together pretty quickly here. But task get 96 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: us started up or down on an idea of a 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: seventy two game season starting December twenty second, twenty twenty. 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: What do you think I'm going up on it. 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 6: I think it's what's best for the league, and I 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: think we want what's best for the league because originally 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 6: the idea to push it later into January, February or 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 6: March was getting fans into the stands, and it's becoming 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 6: very clear in the US a couple of months isn't 104 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 6: going to change that. I don't think the NBA ethically 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 6: can decide that, and they're just they're just deciding to 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: be proactive here. They just can't wait and wait and 107 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 6: wait to see if that turns round. It's not going 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: to turn around in the US anytime soon, so earlier 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 6: means a lot of good things. They own Christmas Day, 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 6: which would be, you know, the second third day of 111 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 6: the schedule, whatever it is. They capitalized by going a 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: day before too, because you know everybody's tuning in for 113 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 6: Opening Night. Let's not do just Christmas Day is Opening Night. 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 6: Let's go before. Get both those double up. So that's smart, 115 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 6: and you match the old NBA calendar. They're going to 116 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 6: basically rush the end of the regular season to be 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 6: in April, so all those same days that we used 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 6: to know December, January, February, March, April, all the games 119 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: played in there, and then the end of the finals in June. 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 6: Probably no All Star game because again, that's not an 121 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: ethically good idea to bring guys. Fly them in, fly 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 6: him out. You avoid playing in the summer months in 123 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 6: July and August. We see it doesn't work for the 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 6: NBA ratings. Go proof and you get closer to a 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 6: regular twenty one twenty two than the following season. If 126 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 6: you can end in June, like the plan is and 127 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 6: they're cutting ten games. I think we should all be 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: pumped about that. I know everybody in the media is 129 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 6: a little wamp womp. We don't get our off season, 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: but there's bigger things to worry about, and you cut 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 6: ten games, which we've all been asking for. So I 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 6: think it works out. They've learned from other sports and 133 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: how to control the virus in a format that's a 134 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 6: non bubble format. I'm going thumbs up. I know people 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 6: are worried I don't get my couple months off, but 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 6: that's the way she rolls. I think it is best 137 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: for the league to try and match up the old skid. 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought that at first. I'll be honest, I 139 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this sucks. Like we've done three hundred 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: and fifty shows. We're gonna like roll right into another 141 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: season here. At first I would I did think that, 142 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: and I did the womp womp, But then I was like, 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: hold on, I'm going anywhere anyway, and I think I'd 144 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: rather have my summers off, so let's get back on 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: track as much as possible get this season going. I'm 146 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: with you task. They've definitely are turning to you know, 147 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: the experts to science and saying, no, you're not going 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: to be having fans in your arenas. You know, maybe 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: in March probably, So why don't you just get started earlier? Yeah, 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: and then we get back to more of a normal schedule, 151 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: hopefully whatever normal means in this world. And then yeah, 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: we got the summers off again. So I've come around 153 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: on this a little bit. But what do you think, Lee? 154 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: You a thumbs up or thumbs down on this proposal? 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: Here? 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: Definitely thumbs up. 157 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the better we get basketball back, the sooner 158 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: we get it back, the better for everyone. I mean, 159 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: I know that it's not the traditional break that teams have, 160 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: but I mean, how long did these professional athletes really 161 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: need to take off anyway? I mean this is ended 162 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: for two teams only a couple of weeks ago, so 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: they got two months to get ready. I know, you know, 164 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: you need to prepare and need to integrate everyone. There's 165 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: going to be free agency and draft and all that, 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: but really, you're playing basketball. So I think everyone should 167 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: be able to get themselves ready to go by mid 168 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: to late December there. And I think I'm excited for 169 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: it because otherwise we're facing the prospect of waiting another 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: three months after that to get basketball started, and no 171 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: one wants to wait that long really, so and really, 172 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: ultimately what it comes down to is what you guys 173 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: are kind of saying there. 174 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: The owners and. 175 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: The league clearly wanted to get fans back in the stadium. 176 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: That's not happening. So then it's like, well, let's start 177 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: getting paid whatever we can get paid, get those games 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: on TV as quickly as possible. 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: And I think December makes sense. 180 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, yeah, Christmas Day is always 181 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: a big day on the NBA calendar. Get a couple 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: of games going first, have a big Christmas Day, and 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: then get into the season. 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: So you know, I. 185 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Still think the NBA I would trim at a few 186 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: games more. I would take a few games off and 187 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: make it a little bit so then you don't have 188 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: to squeeze quite so many games in. I think there's 189 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: a room for experiment there, but seven is probably going 190 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: to be what they're going to agree on based on 191 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: the reporting. I mean, these things tend to be fairly accurate, 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: so they might be a little bit of trimming around 193 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: the edges there. But I would have tightened it up 194 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more and had a few less games, 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: so that then you aren't you know. Again, the less traveling, 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: the fewer interactions, I think reduce the risk even more. 197 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: But we'll see what the final equation is here from 198 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the NBA, but overall a thumbs up, very excited looking 199 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: forward to it. 200 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Again, the players Association do have to agree to this, 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: so maybe this is just sort of some sort of 202 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: negotiating right now, but I think it's going to happen because, 203 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, Shams wrote, the League office told the Board 204 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: of Governors that the projected value for teams and players 205 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: with a December twenty second start versus a later start, 206 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, in the twenty twenty one year, is a 207 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: five hundred million dollar difference. Money talks usually trey, So 208 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: I actually think this might happen now here. What's your 209 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: take up or down? 210 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the equation for you skeets. 211 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: If you start the season earlier in December, you get 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 5: plus five hundred million dollars. So that seems like it's 213 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: going to be a thumbs up from the league. Sham's 214 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: also mentioned in his reporting it's been important for teams 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 5: and players to get back on a normal schedule, which 216 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: allows the players to also receive their summers. Everybody wants 217 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: to have something less to do in the summers. Everybody 218 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: wants to Some people want to go out and rip lipts, 219 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: some people want to get better at basketball. The fact 220 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: of the matter is, it doesn't seem like we're gonna 221 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 5: be able to be in stands even as early as March, 222 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 5: so you might as well get that money. And we 223 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: have to give the league the benefit of the doubt. 224 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: With regards to safety. The bubble worked. We learned a lot, 225 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: excuse me, from the bubble from a safety standpoint, also 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: from a game standpoint, also from a presentation standpoint. So 227 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 5: now they if they're able to settle on a date 228 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 5: in late December, you still got a couple of months 229 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: to figure out how you're gonna make the games look good. 230 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: Because they looked good down in Orlando. But things are 231 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: gonna be different when you're playing in a real stadium 232 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 5: that's been there for fifty years and now it's completely empty. 233 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: But if you got two months. 234 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 5: You can figure out ways to retrofit things with giant 235 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: video boards or whatever the teams are going to be 236 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: side to do to make it look like basketball again. 237 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: So it just makes sense from a dollars and cents 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: standpoint and from a safety standpoint, since it doesn't feel 239 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: like three months is gonna make that big of a 240 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: difference in the grand scheme of things. So yeah, we're 241 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: gonna be seeing basketball again soon. And it's pretty crazy. 242 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: I was driving to Tennessee listening to some classic No 243 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: Dunks podcasts, and I heard Skeet say, why are we 244 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: even calling this the twenty twenty one season. Yeah, we're 245 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 5: not gonna be starting in twenty twenty. Just call it 246 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one season. It's easy for everybody. Next thing, 247 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: you know, we're starting in December. 248 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know it's gonna be like eight 249 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: or nine days. I for how many days or in December. 250 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to have it the twenty twenty twenty 251 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: one season. It will stay true to that. We talked 252 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: about safety though a test. I think you slipped it 253 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: in there. The league maybe has looked at some of 254 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: these other you know sports, NFL, MLB, and have learned 255 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: a thing about Hey, you don't have Well, they're not 256 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: doing the bubble. Maybe they shouldn't be, but they can 257 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: learn some things because it's not going all that, well, 258 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. In some of these other leagues, 259 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: and NFL specifically have had you know, outbreaks, games postponed 260 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: and maybe missed and stuff like that. And that is 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: a sport that they're only playing once a week, so 262 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: it's easier to make those sort of up if you 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: have to, and stuff like are you I mean, I 264 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: guess we're giving the benefit of the doubts of the 265 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: league because they did such a good job of the bubble. 266 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: But this is a different beast, right, this idea of 267 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: like we're playing in all these arenas and yeah, movement 268 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: change the schedule to make it more like you go 269 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: to New York and you play the Knicks and then 270 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: you play the Nets and then okay, you don't have 271 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: to come back. But still you're putting a lot of 272 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: faith in all of these players and all the staffs 273 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: to not screw up, to not go out to the club, 274 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: to not go somewhere they shouldn't. I mean, they're just 275 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: not stealed in a bubble. It's not gonna be foolproof, right, 276 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: I think that's got to be a bit of a 277 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: concern here. 278 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you put it up against what they just 279 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 6: did in the bubble, sure, but they also have yeah, 280 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: those other leaks to go off of it, and it 281 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 6: sure seems like they're not going to play the other 282 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 6: conference at all. So your Eastern Conference teams, it sure 283 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 6: looks like aren't going to play the Western Conference teams 284 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 6: because it makes it easier to reschedule. If you do 285 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: have a little bit of a boo boo and something 286 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 6: happens where you have to cancel a game, it's easier 287 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 6: to go get a quick game in if you're the 288 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 6: Brooklyn Nets, probably in Philadelphia or some more close, rather 289 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 6: than have to fly over La later on in the schedule. 290 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 6: If you can just shove it in on a March day, 291 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: it makes it better, it looks or makes it easier, 292 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 6: I should say, it looks like that's going to happen. 293 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 6: They're learning, and yeah, it's not as easy as as 294 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: a bubble. Maybe there'll be a bubble for the finals 295 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 6: perhaps something like that, or maybe we'll even have fans 296 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 6: later on in the season. I think that's not something 297 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 6: they are, you know, canceling right now. But there's a 298 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 6: reason that it's also seventy two games because that satisfies 299 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 6: all the TV providers. Because that gets to a number 300 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 6: where that's the same thing going into the bubble. Why 301 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: they got all those seating games, it's because they needed 302 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: teams to get to the seventy two game mark approximately 303 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 6: to make all that money. So it's a lot, there's 304 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 6: a lot of factors, and yeah, there could definitely be 305 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: a positive test here there. But it sure looks like 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 6: the Lakers aren't going to be playing the New York 307 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 6: Knicks this season, and the reason is because it makes 308 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: it easier to shove it in there if somebody does 309 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 6: have contracts the virus and that game has to be canceled, Blake, 310 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 6: there has been in baseball in the NFL. That's just 311 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: the way it is right now. 312 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fascinating. Though you don't think like the Eastern 313 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: Conference teams will be playing the Western Conference teams. 314 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: At all, according to John versus your own conference, right, yeah, 315 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: it looks like you're playing if you're if you're in 316 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 6: your own division, you're playing each team eight times. That 317 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 6: sure looks like and then the rest of the conference 318 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: four times, So a lot of that and it reduces 319 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 6: the travel, right So, uh, in New York and New 320 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 6: York the next will play the sixers. If they're on 321 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 6: the road, you have a little two game series. Come over, 322 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 6: have a little two game series. It's gonna be a 323 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 6: lot of that. 324 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: But you look at things like the Grizzlies, who are 325 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: are basically an Eastern Conference location, but they'll be playing 326 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, so they'll be traveling, you know. 327 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: And then they look at like homea city as well, 328 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: like they close, like there's so many teams in that 329 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: sort of central line that just happened to be in 330 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: the Western Conference. So you know, the traveling one, like 331 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: teams teams are still going to have to travel long 332 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: distances to play in their own conference, certainly from the 333 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Western Conference anyway, so they're going to be on the 334 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: road for long periods of time. So but it's a 335 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: bit weird. I mean, I know this is probably not 336 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: the time talking about, but I've said, like, just scrap 337 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: conferences and divisions. Just play each other, Like I sort 338 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: of said it on two of the other they play 339 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: everyone once home and once away, fifty eight games. I 340 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: think that's the best way to balance the schedule. And 341 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: then you get the top sixteen teams based on exactly 342 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: how many you've all played the same schedule. Now, I 343 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: know that doesn't fit the seventy two game requirement for 344 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: TV rights, but I think that's the best way to 345 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: balance the schedule out and get a fair indication of 346 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: who deserves to be in the playoffs. But I know 347 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen because that's cutting back an 348 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: enormous amount of games, which is revenue, and that's not 349 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: what the owners all the players want, so it won't happen. 350 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: But in theory, I think that would be the best 351 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: way to approach it. 352 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is going to be wild. I mean we are. 353 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the draft is obviously still scheduled for November eighteenth. 354 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: We don't still know free agency, is we You know, 355 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: Hollinger is guessing it's basically a week after, you know, 356 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: because some people thought it'd be early December. That feels 357 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: like it's got to be pushed up a little bit. 358 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: Then are there training camps or they? I mean, like 359 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: when are those kids one league? Yeah? Right, fall ball 360 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: is done, but like it's gonna just happen so quickly here, 361 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: and you wonder what type of effect that could have 362 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: on teams and their ability or maybe not to build 363 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: rosters right to switch things up by trades or stuff 364 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: like that. Like, I just wonder if that has any 365 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: sort of trickle down effect on Like, well, well there's 366 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: a little sort of too much going on here. Well 367 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: let's just stam pat. This is gonna be a weird 368 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: season as it is again, so let's just not do 369 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: anything drastic. Maybe not, maybe it'll be the opposite, Maybe 370 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: it'll be just like craziness happening. But one thing I 371 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: said there in the intro play in scenario still in 372 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: play right, we saw that of course in the bubble. 373 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: You know, if you're a certain distance behind the eight seed, 374 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: well then you trigger this sort of the Mega Bowl 375 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: as we called it, and if you were the ninth seed, 376 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: you had to beat them and stuff like that. As 377 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: we saw Trey. You liked that idea of them continuing 378 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: to keep that or would you change it at all? 379 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: What's your take on that whole thing? 380 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. 381 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: The play in tournament was super fun and watching the 382 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 5: Blazers claw their way back, watching the Grizzlies collapse a 383 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 5: little bit, it was fun and I guess probably not 384 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: if you're a Grizzlies fan, but it was exciting for 385 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 5: the other twenty nine fan bases to be watching, So yeah, 386 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: it makes sense to run it back sort of with 387 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: a play in tournament. I don't know if you want 388 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 5: to keep it. I think it was four games out 389 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: of the eighth seed was the cutoff for this, but 390 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: that was just kind of a circumstantial thing with where 391 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: the teams were prior to the shutdown and everything. 392 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: So maybe a change it to. 393 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: You got to be within one game of the eighth 394 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: seed to get into the Mega Bowl tournament. There's got 395 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: to be a little bit of tinkering with the exact 396 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 5: specifications of it. But it was very exciting, and you know, 397 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 5: for a game that ultimately meant nothing. You know, the 398 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: Blazers ended up getting smoked by the Lakers in the 399 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: playoffs that game, though it was awesome that it was 400 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: totally worth it and that kind of thing. We'll drive 401 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: ratings and that's another way another branded thing that you 402 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: could sell and get a little bit of that revenue 403 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: back as well. There learned a lot of a lot 404 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: of things from the bubble, and I think that the 405 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: play in tournament certainly was one that worked. 406 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, bring it back. 407 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, task you agree, would you expand 408 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: it maybe even would you include the seventh seed, you know, 409 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: like if you're particular games close enough to them that 410 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: it is more of a tournament or do you like 411 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: the way it was? What do you think like people 412 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: say like seven, seven to ten, you know, the seeds 413 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: seven to ten could be playing in some sort of 414 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: tournament if they're close enough. 415 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 6: Again, that's the that's the traditional format that people wanted, right, 416 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 6: This is yeah, my correct, seven. 417 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: I think so. I remember that was one of the 418 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: first ones I felt. 419 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 6: Like, yeah, yeah, I mean last year, as Trey alluded to, 420 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 6: or last year when was a few months ago when 421 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 6: they when they when they brought in the Suns who 422 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 6: went eight. No, it worked all it worked out well, 423 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 6: and they brought in the Wizards. Yeah that was just 424 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: this year. This is the way things are, and we're 425 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: trying to be fair. So going on it was a 426 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 6: successful right of course, of course Trey talked about, Yeah, 427 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 6: so why would you do it again? 428 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 429 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, just I'm just mean, like, as far as 430 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 6: the nitty gritty, are you going to bring in the 431 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 6: Wizards wo or five and a half years or the 432 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: eleven seed or twelve seat they brought in twelve teams 433 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 6: in the Western Conferences at thirteen run thirteen. 434 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: I think we're thirteen and nine from the East. 435 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so they're not going to break thirteen teams. 436 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 6: That would be nuts. 437 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: Wow was it thirteen? The kids were the Kings weren't 438 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: The Kings were there? You're right, and the Warriors signs 439 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: were the worst. Yeah, you know, you're right, You're right, 440 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: You're right, s Lee. What do you think I assume 441 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: your thumbs up on this idea? 442 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think it worked so well and 443 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: the NBA experimented. They took the opportunity to do it 444 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: down there, and it was successful. Now, not every single 445 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: playing game is going to be as exciting probably as 446 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: it was that time. But I think these are the 447 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: sorts of things you've got to try now and see 448 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: if they do connect with fans, because I think it 449 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: does also keep that race alive at the bottom. And now, 450 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: ultimately the Blazers, you know they yeah, they won one 451 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: game off the Lakers and they lost, but we were 452 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: still excited to see them make that chase and it 453 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: came down literally to the last game. Remember, Phoenix were 454 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: hoping that the would lose to the Nets because then 455 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: the Suns would have gotten in. So it really like 456 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: there was so much excitement in those last few games 457 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: that led into it, and that's really what the NBA needs. 458 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest problems the NBA has is 459 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: teams that are basically tanking when half the season is 460 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: still going on. You need to keep as many teams 461 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: hopeful of making the playoffs as possible, and I think 462 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: the playing tournament does that, so yes, I would probably 463 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: expand it a little bit too myself. 464 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: I wouldn't it be less exciting even in this bubble 465 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: scenario if the Suns were guaranteed to make it, if 466 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 5: they were one of the seven through ten, it wouldn't 467 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: have been as exciting seeing them go undefeated. They would 468 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: have been in there already, they wouldn't have even had 469 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: to try that last game. That's why, to me, we 470 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: don't need twenty playoff teams. That's way too many. Eighteen 471 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: is too many, sixteen is too many, but at least 472 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: eighteen is less than twenty. Personally, I would keep it 473 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: to the eight and nine. You don't need to go 474 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: super deep. You're gonna be asking teams from the Eastern 475 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: Conference who have thirty and thirty one wins to come 476 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: in and try and win a couple of games in 477 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 5: a play in tournament, maybe it would be exciting, but 478 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: I don't know, that just seems a little bit too 479 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: much of a good thing. 480 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a good point. I just 481 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: my point is you want to try to keep as 482 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: many teams competing for wins at the end of the season, 483 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: which is a problem, you know, because and I know 484 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: that the draft isn't the same as it was and 485 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: in terms of your lottery odds of getting the number 486 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: one pick, but there is a problem I think still 487 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: that exists within the NBA, where you know, a lot 488 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: of teams just basically mail it in, you know, early 489 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: into the season. Why when they're looking ahead to the lottery, 490 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: and I don't I think you want to try to 491 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: avoid that as best you can. There's probably no perfect system. 492 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: But the flattening of the lottery odds was a good start. 493 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: It's a good start, yeah, yeah, and so and I 494 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: think they will keep tinkering with it as well. I 495 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: think I think Adam Silver has shown that he wants 496 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: to try to improve it. And again he always references 497 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: the soccer leagues in Europe and one of the things 498 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: they'd have is the relegation battle, which keeps all those 499 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: teams battling for life right up until the last day 500 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: of the season. Now it's not quite the same in 501 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: the NBA, but that's what he's trying to achieve, I think, 502 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: and I think keep trying to work on it. 503 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: And I remember Trey saying this at the time of 504 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: the bubble, let's not forget. Maybe a big reason why 505 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: it was so why it was so exciting, or all 506 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: the games felt exciting, is because we told the eight 507 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: crappy teams to stay the home, know what I mean. 508 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: That's let's not forget, like those teams will still be around, 509 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: and there's weird regional bubbles. Whatever the heck we're doing here, 510 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: so you know it's it's gonna be a little bit different. 511 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: I was asked this question before we move on here, Tasks. 512 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: I want to throw it at you on the Dishes 513 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: and Dimes podcasts last night. I hadn't thought about it. 514 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: What it is you said it We're not probably gonna 515 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: have an all star game like that seems weird to do. 516 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: To bring everybody from all over the country into one spot. 517 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: Seems like a possible spreading event, super spreading event. So 518 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: do we still name all stars if there's no All 519 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: Star game? Will they still do the whole like, here's 520 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: who makes the All Star game, this, here's the voting 521 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: and all that. What do you think? 522 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 6: One, Yes, it matters, those those all star little little 523 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 6: mark sung the basketball reference page, just to have that 524 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 6: little icon up there. Yeah, it matters, and it matters 525 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 6: more than the actual game itself. Right, Oh yeah, right, 526 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 6: so I think so. I think you go through the. 527 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: It's the acolyte, it's the recognition, and it's also sometimes 528 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: closes in contracts. So I absolutely think they will name 529 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: it and I just yeah, there's no point in playing 530 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: the game. 531 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: So it's also content, which ye yeah, it's obviously gonna 532 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: want you want to hear us debating and every other 533 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: show debating about who's an old star? Who is in? 534 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah I was my answer last night too. 535 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 6: Test was like, yeah, they can still create the jerseys too. 536 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: Sure, tell them as well do the whole draft do it? 537 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, and then play the game like through the 538 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: E League or something like that. 539 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: There are options they could do. 540 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe you could virtual reality into it, 541 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: who knows, what it is, they'll at least name them. 542 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 5: You got to get the patches. 543 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we're all on board with that. And 544 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: then I guess there is some talk too, right, Maybe 545 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: it was Windhorse saying there's a potential that they just 546 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: give them two weeks off in the middle of this 547 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: weird season, like just to for the players to rest. Okay, 548 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's potentially a good thing. Like 549 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: that's the other part here. We don't know how jammed 550 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: in like this seventy two game suits will really be. 551 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Like you would assume the league is going to try 552 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: and avoid what was happening obviously back in you know, 553 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: twenty eleven when it was back to back to backs 554 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, only doesn't want anything to do 555 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: with that anymore. But how much will players load manage 556 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: at which they do already, Will that even be more 557 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: or will they be able to make this schedule not 558 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: that bad because like you guys are saying, there's not 559 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: as much travel, there's not as much competing events in 560 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 3: some of these arenas. You know, there's you know, in theory, 561 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: there's not a there's not a Rihanna concert going on 562 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: in the you know, the same arena, so it just 563 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: might be easier who knows. Who knows, But looks like 564 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: we're getting basketball back pre Christmas, which is wild. 565 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: I know. 566 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: I almost feel bad for team, like a team like 567 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: the Lakers, who you assume will be playing on Christmas. 568 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 5: They just spent however long in the bubble away from 569 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: their families. Now they finally get back home, they have 570 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: to start playing basketball right away and they're Christmas. 571 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: That sucks. 572 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would suck. And you wonder if that's what 573 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: the Players Association will push back on, like this is. 574 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: We want to open presents with our families. 575 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, we just went to Orlando for 576 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: three months, for crying out loud, four months whatever it 577 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: was like, at least give us until the new year 578 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: to start it back up. But you know, then they say, well, okay. 579 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: By Christmas presents. 580 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 581 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 7: I know. 582 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 6: I know it's tough for the Lakers. I know it's 583 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 6: tough Christmas Day, but it's worse for the Toronto Raptors, 584 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 6: who won't be playing in Toronto most likely it'll be 585 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 6: playing all four months in the US most likely because 586 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 6: they won't be playing backing for it. Yeah, obviously, just 587 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 6: like the Toronto Blue Jays did. What is it that's 588 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 6: what's going to happen. 589 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 3: It's not one hundred percent yet. I guess there's changing 590 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: some testing protocols at airports and stuff like that. I mean, 591 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: is it I'm with you. I mean, it's definitely in play. 592 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: They could be playing in Buffalo or Kansas City or 593 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: wherever they pick. Maybe they put them in New York 594 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: and it's easier there or something like that. But I 595 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: guess there's still a possibility that the Canadian government, in 596 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: working with them, can allow it somehow where it's still 597 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: safe for these teams flying on their private planes anyway 598 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: and just go to the go to the arena and 599 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: play and then leave. I mean, I guess it's possible. 600 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: But you're right, Desk, it could be playing in some 601 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: weird city in America. It sounds like it's not gonna 602 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: be Louisville because they're saying we're not going there, but 603 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: it could be somewhere else, like you said, Buffalo or something. 604 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see. 605 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 6: It'll be great. 606 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: Who does this benefit if they start early or late December? 607 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: I guess does it benefit teams like that were just 608 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: playing like the Lakers are Heat or does that suck 609 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: because they were just playing, so in theory they're tired. 610 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: Like some of these teams haven't played in forever since. 611 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: Like it'll nearly nine months in between actual NBA games. 612 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: I guess it would favor the teams that have most 613 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: recently played because they've had gameplay and you know, you 614 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: can practice all you want, but nothing replicates what it's 615 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: like to be out on the court. So I think, yeah, 616 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: I think the teams that, you know, not necessarily just 617 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Heat that went to the finals, 618 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: all those other teams. It just got reps in and 619 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: and you know, I got familiar with the applies a 620 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, I would say I would benefit then. 621 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: And before we move on from this, JD, what do 622 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 3: you think pre Christmas start big thing? Thumbs up? 623 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, well at first, I was like, well, this definitely 624 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 8: tracks for twenty twenty, you know, I mean just it's 625 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 8: a it's a game of stamina, you know, like, and 626 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 8: I think that's as you say, that's who's going to 627 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 8: it's going to benefit and uh, you know, we all 628 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 8: have our ways of coping with with grueling schedule, and 629 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 8: I've I'm still I'm I've got this. 630 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: Oh, for those listening, JD just took a nice swing 631 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: of some I believe it was Johnny Walker Black there. 632 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 8: If Johnny Walker Black went down a little too easy in. 633 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: The morning, Bro, we'll survive, JD. We'll survive. 634 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 8: It's fine. I'm never You're never gonna hear me complain 635 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 8: about working, not in this uh not in this environment. No, 636 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 8: I'm happy to work. 637 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: This isn't really working right, Let's be honest, for us, 638 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: feel feel bad for the people that actually got to work. 639 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's keep moving unless there's anything else to 640 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: add to this. Guys, Now, let's go to the next one. 641 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: If the Celtics look too deal Gordon Hayward this offseason, 642 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: they have at least one potential trade partner. According to 643 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: s and ys Ian Begley, Hayward's hometown Indiana Pacers are 644 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: potentially interested in him. Now, we're, of course, waiting to 645 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: see if Gordo picks up his thirty two point four 646 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: million dollar player option he has with Boston. He's expected 647 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: to opt in. He's a thirty year old forward with 648 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: injury concerns. You're probably not going to pass up the 649 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: thirty four million dollar payday. But hey, maybe you want 650 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: to sign a long term deal. Who knows, but up 651 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: or down on the Pacers trying to trade for Gordon Hayward. 652 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: Trade get us started from. 653 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: The Jazz to the Celtics to the Pacers. Sounds about white. 654 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: I'm up on this joking. It feels like the Pacers 655 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 5: are a little bit in flux. This whatever we're calling 656 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: this offseason. You want to say summer, it ain't the summer, 657 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 5: but they're certainly in flux. You know, they hired one 658 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: Nate out. One Nate in Skeets pronounced this name for me, 659 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: York grin. 660 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good that I'm saying it. 661 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, I heard you say it on one and 662 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 5: a half speed, so I wasn't sure if I totally 663 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: nailed it. But they got a new Nate in town. 664 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: Victor Oladipo allegedly wants out. He might be looking for 665 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: a trade. They might actually trade him, so certainly there 666 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 5: is some alure bringing home a hometown guy in Gordon Hayward, 667 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: who played basketball there during his high school career, during 668 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: his college career, and you know, now he could obviously 669 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: continue his pro career there as well. And I think 670 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: he actually fits a little bit as a piece if 671 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: you assume that Victor Oladipo is no longer a pacer. 672 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: Along with Malcolm Brogden, de Monte Sabonis, those are all 673 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: guys who can kind of play with the ball, play 674 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 5: without the ball, make good decisions, make plays and score 675 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: on their own. He would have a bigger role, I think, 676 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: on the Pacers than he would on the Celtics, but 677 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 5: still lesser than he did on Utah, which is probably 678 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: exactly where Gordon Hayward needs to be right now. He's 679 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 5: not necessarily a number one or number two guy, but 680 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: he can definitely help as a secondary tertiary creator in 681 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 5: that sort of realm. But yeah, I mean it seems 682 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 5: a little bit like a marketing ploy. It definitely feels 683 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: like anytime Gordon Hayward is going to be available, the 684 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: Pacers are going to be rumored to be in the 685 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: mix for him. But I think it could work out 686 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: if they're ready to move on from Miles Turner. You know, 687 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: the Celtics could be interested in a big guy like 688 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: Miles Turner. They've got to do a lot more contract matching. 689 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 5: Maybe you need to get a third team involved. 690 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: TJ. 691 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: Warren could go somewhere else because you probably don't need 692 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 5: him if Gordon Hayward's around. But it sounds funny because 693 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: it's Gordon Hayward and Indiana and the Pacers. 694 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: But it makes a little bit of sense, I. 695 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: Think, okay, a little bit of sense, Tess, what do 696 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: you think totally? 697 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 6: It looks like two teams that have been rumored forever 698 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: to be wanting a couple of certain things could have 699 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 6: a match right here, especially with Victor Oladipo rumored to 700 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 6: be out of there. So if you trade machine it up, 701 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: Victor Oladipo and Miles Turner could be traded for Gordon 702 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 6: Hayward and Daniel Tice. Makes sense. Andy couldn't move on 703 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 6: from Oladipo anyway, if you could get Gordon Hayward for 704 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 6: him a guy. Yep, they have been rumored for a 705 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: long time to be wanting, so that kind of makes sense. 706 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 6: Miles Turner as a Boston Celtic as their center definitely 707 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 6: makes sense. So I know it's a bit of a reach, 708 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 6: but it's one of those things that we've been talking 709 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 6: about forever, Boston wanting a big Gordon Hayward going to Indiana. 710 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: It almost seems too fitting, but it could. It could 711 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: happen here. 712 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: What do you think, Lee, Yeah, good and Heyward's a 713 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: very good player, but the injury concerns do sort of 714 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: limit what you think he can his best can be. 715 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: I think for me, in the in the bubble there, 716 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: he got injured, you know, and when he came back 717 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: he was okay, but he wasn't really super. So you 718 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: just wonder exactly what the best role is for him. 719 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: I think he is a nice complimentary piece on the 720 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: paces right now, if you if you consider everything, assuming 721 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: that all the depot is out, I think he's a 722 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: good fit for that team. But I also don't think 723 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: he really elevates them sort of to a greater level 724 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: than they really were at. So I'm really struggling to 725 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: figure out exactly just how good he is and what 726 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: his value is because you know. 727 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: He at his best. 728 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Thirty four million dollars, No, but then would he did 729 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: have a good year, and you know, coming off the bench, 730 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: he's a team guy. He can come off the bench 731 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: and he provides a steady hand. He can you know 732 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the games. I like to have 733 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: him on the court, But would you if you're the Paces, 734 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: if he says, okay, you know, I'll opt out of 735 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: this contract if you give me four years for one 736 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: hundred million. Would would the Pacers do that? You know, 737 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: at thirty years old, twenty five million year? I mean 738 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of I think, you know, I think that's 739 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: the kind of contract he could expect. 740 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, if they have somebody who wants to be there, 741 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 6: sign up. Yeah, Yeah, it's the Piecers. 742 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting, So we'll see. Yeah, is there something to 743 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: be done between the Celtics and Pacers here with either 744 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: Turner or Ladiepo like you're saying, I think maybe, yeah, 745 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: a lot of like crazy variations on this. Does maybe 746 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: have to involve a third team for it to make 747 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: sense a little bit more and make the numbers all work. 748 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: But you tell us, let us know. What do you 749 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: think about the Pacers trying to trade for Gordon Hayward. 750 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: I wonder does his barber come with them everywhere? 751 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: Do we know that? 752 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: Like you got to include him? Is he on the board? 753 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: Demon barber of Fleet Street? 754 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if that guy made his way to Boston, 755 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: but I'm sure he could get some haircuts around there, 756 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 5: you know. 757 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: Everybody is happy to do the high and tight sides. 758 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, right right right, that's that's a good point. 759 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: So we'll see with that, and it could be a 760 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: very crazy offseason, like I said here, with the quick turnaround, 761 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: so we'll see. I would expect him though, to opt 762 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: in that thirty four million dollars. I'm still gonna go 763 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: on record with that one. But crazier things have happened. Okay, 764 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: we got lots more still well get to but before 765 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: we do, quick word from some of our news sponsors. 766 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: Awesome stuff. Let's get back to the updown report. This 767 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: one's great. Longtime Sonic star Sean camp. He is set 768 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 3: to open up his own dispensary in Seattle this month, 769 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: a move that will make history in the city. Camp's shop, 770 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: named Sean Camp's Cannabis, will be Seattle's first black owned dispensary. 771 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: Shop will be located in downtown near the iconic Space Needle. 772 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: So up or Down Lee will go to you first 773 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: here upper down on Sean camp opening a marijuana dispensary. 774 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm n't, but everyone out there on Twitter's 775 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: asking why isn't it named Sean Hemp? 776 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 4: Really? 777 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the biggest question here. But oh jokes aside, 778 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: this is very good news for Shan Camp a superstar 779 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: player during his days, he fell on some hard times afterwards, 780 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: and now he's getting back on his feet and providing 781 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: a business and a service that is very helpful and 782 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: very useful. And he's not just sort of going in 783 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: this like without doing his research first. He's partnering up 784 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: with a couple of guys who are experienced in the industry, 785 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: and he's trying to make this as successful as possible. 786 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: And he's also right now under the social distancing protocols, 787 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: he's making it so that you can go curbside and 788 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: pick up what you need. And I just think this 789 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: is a great induatate, especially again you mentioned their first 790 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: black owned dispensary, which is a very very good thing, 791 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: and it's you know, somewhat of a pioneer in the industry. 792 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: So we wish him all the best. He's a legend 793 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: still in the Seattle area and hopefully this works out 794 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: for him. And again, this is a serious issue that 795 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: really it's good to see somebody who's a known person 796 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: within their city taking a lead on something like this, 797 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: and obviously we hope it all works out for him. 798 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, said Trey, I assume your thumbs up, man. 799 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thumbs up. 800 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: And a couple of people in the stream team are 801 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 5: already hitting on what I was going to head on 802 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: John Schuman, I know he was wearing a big pun 803 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 5: shirt when he was on the show. He's dropping a 804 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: big pun, no surprise. John Schuman says there better be 805 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: a weed variety called the lister Blister one hundred percent, agreeing. 806 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 5: Lewis Henderson hits us with the Strange Man. That's really 807 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 5: good too. There's a lot of great built in names 808 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 5: for weed strains that Sean Kemp can bring to the table. 809 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 5: Those two obviously Supersonic sounds good, and honestly, I was. 810 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: Going in there perusing the wares. 811 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 5: I'm definitely going for a baggie that says fat Sean 812 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: on it. 813 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: Pick that up and just chilling on the couch. 814 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: Sign me up him in a Calves uniform on the 815 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: bag or whatever. Yeah like that task. Thumbs up and 816 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: thumbs down on camp Here and his marijuana dispensary in Seattle. 817 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 6: Thumbs up. Gary Payton will be at the ribbon cutting. 818 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 6: I think it's this week and I guess it's the 819 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 6: first black owed brick and mortar dispensary in Seattle. Because 820 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 6: Gary Payton launched his own canvas company in twenty nine 821 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 6: called Canna Sports, and I think that's just an online one, 822 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 6: and Gary Payton Sean Kemp still boys, and so I'm 823 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 6: sure Sean Kemp took his time and learned a bit 824 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 6: from Gary Payton's mistakes, if he had any. I don't know. 825 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 6: I haven't really looked intoto Gary Payton's situation there, but 826 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 6: I'm sure they're buds and he's gonna have a successful 827 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 6: business along with his a couple of his business partners 828 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 6: that that were outlined in the article there. So good 829 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 6: luck to the rain Man, to the strain Man, go 830 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 6: do it. 831 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: That was another nice big pun right there. I'm sure 832 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: they're buds. Also a smart move by Camp two. I 833 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: don't know if you guys saw the photo in the 834 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: article Unmistakable this place, there's like a thirty by eighty 835 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: foot mural that looks wicked of the rain Man, like 836 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: in all the in sonic screen and stuff like that. 837 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: It's done, I guess by a local muralist, Jeff Jacobson. 838 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: It looks incredible you're gonna go there just to take 839 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: photos of that as it is, and then hey, you're 840 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 3: right there, might as well pop in and get some, 841 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 3: you know, some delicious treats for you a little bit later. 842 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: So great call. Thumbs up. I don't know how you 843 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 3: beat thumbs down on this one, except you're right. I 844 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: mean it's sort of smart just going Sean Kemp's cannabis 845 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: because you know, you like the name recognition, right, But 846 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: Sean hamp is so good the strain man. All this 847 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: stuff is fantastic. It's like, and we love our puns, 848 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: so that that would go next level if if he 849 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 3: had gone that route. But congrats to him. 850 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 6: There's time Till there's time, you know who, get a 851 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 6: team of them in, call him the super Chronics like 852 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 6: Fred Matt Katz brought that one. I've got to give 853 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 6: him the credit. He is a pun master. 854 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it all right. 855 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: I got a nice quarter rounds of Nate mcchillin. 856 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: Oh we can make this its own podcast. 857 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: Maybe we will, cause Sean camp On is just pitching 858 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 5: strained names. 859 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that idea, all right, next one here. 860 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: It's been nearly two months since the Nets hired Steve 861 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: Nash as their new head coach two months. Hold on, 862 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: that can't be right. Has it really been two months 863 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: since Nash Cubs? That seems wrong. But anyway, I probably 864 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 3: wrote that wrong. But he made his first hire for 865 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 3: his staff, big name at least Over the weekend, Sean's 866 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: reported that Amari Stodameyer, who was teammates of course with 867 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 3: Nash and Nets general manager Sean Marks when they were 868 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: with the Sons, he's joining the Nets team. He's going 869 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: to be in a player development role. So sort of 870 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: like an assistant coach here, task gets started up or 871 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: down on Amari back in our lives, joining Nash and 872 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 3: joining the Nets coaching staff. 873 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 6: Oh give me it up as as he said, and 874 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 6: Sean's reported a player development coach. He just finished playing 875 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 6: in his career overseas in Israel, where he was the 876 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 6: finals MVP there Israel, and there's some signs he'll be 877 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 6: good at working one on one with guys. Danny of Dia, 878 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 6: who's a top five prospect for the draft and played 879 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 6: with Maccabi this season and played with the Mario, said 880 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 6: he loves working with guys, trying to make them better, 881 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 6: trying to get them involved, So it sure makes sense. 882 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 6: Jared Allen being a better pick and roll partner for 883 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving could be Amari's huge task, as he did 884 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 6: with Steve Nash way back in the day. And this 885 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 6: is a lot of people are saying, Mario Stoanamar no experience, 886 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 6: Steve Nash no experience. Well it's one piece Nash. I 887 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 6: think has to hire somebody with some coaching experience, some 888 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 6: tactical experience beside him. 889 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: There, Jouan Vaughn is still there, right. 890 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 6: Jack Van, Yeah, that's definitely true. There's rumors about him, 891 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 6: you know, calling Dirk Noovisky, calling Rajah Bell to join 892 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 6: him on the step, But yeah, Jaques Von will be there, 893 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 6: So I think he still needs a little bit more 894 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 6: experience around him. But Mari stnwriter is going to love 895 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 6: those philosophical, philosophical conversations with Kyrie Irving too. You know 896 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 6: those guys, those guys are going to grow down for sure. 897 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 6: So kudos to tell Mara. His career was a bit 898 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 6: of a rollercoaster, going from Phoenix to New York where 899 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 6: he started hot in twenty ten, and then because of 900 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 6: the injuries to his knees, he just wasn't the same player, 901 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 6: and he kind of fizzled out at the end of 902 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 6: his career in his mid thirties in North America, but 903 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: he picked things up overseas and he had a really, really, 904 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 6: really great career. And I think he knows the pressures 905 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 6: of playing in New York. If that helps at all 906 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 6: with Kevin Durant and kyr Urriig, maybe it will with 907 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 6: some of the younger players. I don't know. In fact 908 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 6: is he's got some life experience player development coach I 909 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 6: think fits the bill. 910 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think, Lee? It seems like the 911 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: new sort of creating a vibe over there. Like like 912 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 3: Tas said, it tried to get Dirk. 913 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: You know you go. 914 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 3: Now you've got a MA. It's like, don't worry about 915 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 3: your coaching experience. We just want some cool guys hang 916 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 3: up bybe It works with guys like Kevin Durtt and Carie. 917 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: Maybe that's the way to go. 918 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's familiar with people that Steve Nash knows, so 919 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: I guess it's easy for him to communicate and get 920 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: the message across of as what he wants Amara to 921 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: work on with the players. So and good for Mara 922 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: to sort of stay in the game, give back a 923 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: little bit there. Yeah, apparently Dirk was us and he 924 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: said he only really wants to coach if he's going 925 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: to coach in Dallas. 926 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: So wow, Wow, this guy is loyal man. 927 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So Nash struck out there. But no, I'm 928 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: excited to see how this comes together because there's a 929 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. But there's a lot of talent on 930 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: the roster as well, So this could be a situation 931 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: where the Nets do quickly, you know, vault up the 932 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference standings. It's possible with all that talent there. 933 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know, it's also a little bit you know, 934 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: combustible too, you would think with some of those personalities 935 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: on the roster. So I think Steve Nash is trying 936 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: to surround himself with people who he knows, he's familiar with. 937 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to get to know them in terms 938 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: of his coaching stuff, and that should make things a 939 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: little more comfortable for him. So you gotta try these 940 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: things and hopefully it pays off. 941 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thumbs up on this just for the fact 942 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: alone that a name like Amari comes back into our 943 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: lives and then suddenly I'm watching Amari Stodamayer highlights, and 944 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, guy was amazing. You know, a 945 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: six time All Star, but he played for a long time, 946 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: and his highlights with Nash our next level. I mean, 947 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 3: the Sons were one of the most enjoyable teams that 948 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 3: I've ever watched play NBA basketball. I think that's true 949 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. But try anything to add 950 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 3: I assume it thumbs up on this. 951 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thumbs up. I feel the same way I 952 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 5: did when Steve Nash was hired. I didn't really know 953 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 5: that he wanted to get into coaching, but I'm gonna 954 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 5: be happy to see him on the sideline. It's gonna 955 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 5: be weird seeing Mury Stoudemayer wearing a suit every single night. 956 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 5: That's gonna definitely be a change. I always remember him 957 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 5: as a guy in a cutoff jean jacket with the 958 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 5: arms out showing off the guns. Maybe he cuts the 959 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 5: sleeves off his suit as well. 960 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Whatever it is. 961 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 5: There's a lot of old Sons who are also available 962 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 5: right now. Mike d'An Toni's out there, Alvin Gentries out there, 963 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 5: get the gang back together. See what Sean Marian's up 964 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 5: to let him teach some defense, because you're not getting 965 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 5: that from Nash and Amari. 966 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: But I'll be fun to see him around. 967 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: You got a an Amari Statamar Finals MVP report from 968 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 3: your in laws him playing in Israel. 969 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 6: There they he was good. 970 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: He was good. I still got. 971 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 6: It and uh yeah. To add on to Trey's fashion profile, 972 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 6: he likes to wear hats, also wear big brimmed hats, 973 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 6: so he'll be walking into the arena with some chapeaus. 974 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 6: I can see him flinging him out to all the 975 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 6: boys in the in the locker room for sure. 976 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, maybe it's a slick move to 977 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 3: try and recruit Carmelo to come play for the Nets. 978 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: Bringing a hat guy we don't know likes his hats. 979 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: I could talk hats, and you said the Amari and Kyrie, 980 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure like they might bond over, you know, just 981 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 3: being interesting guys and having, you know, some unique thoughts 982 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 3: on life. I'd love to see those two guys in 983 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 3: a bathtub of red wine, like chilling. Like remember Kevin 984 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 3: Hart had his little show online where you getting a 985 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: cold tub and do an interview. Mario should do that 986 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: with the red wine baths. First guest, Kyrie. But you 987 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: got to be in the same one. You gotta be 988 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 3: in the same tub. 989 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: You gotta showing Kemp's dispensary just beforehand. It's im sure, yeah, 990 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: make it a real body. 991 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? All right? 992 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 6: There was there was a great caption of the Mari 993 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 6: sitting in that red wine saying to Kyrie, Kyrie, come 994 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 6: into my office. I remember, Yeah, makes sense. Wouldn't it 995 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 6: be the weirdest thing Steve Nash being hired I don't 996 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 6: know where. It was very strange, But if Mike D'Antoni 997 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 6: is an assistant for Steve Nash, wouldn't that be the 998 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 6: absolute strangest thing. 999 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 3: That'd be weird. That'd be weird, but also sort of 1000 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 3: I could see it happening. Yeah, I mean yeah, he had. 1001 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 5: An assistant job with the Sixers right before he was 1002 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 5: with Houston, so he's willing to take a second seat. 1003 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: It sounds like I think he just tasked me. It 1004 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 3: could be weird one of players players have you never coached? 1005 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, who knows? All right? Next one here the 1006 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: Nuggets Downtown Sports Venue getting the name change Guys for 1007 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: the first time since it opened in nineteen ninety nine, 1008 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 3: the Pepsi Center is being renamed. It will be called 1009 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: drum Roll Please Ball Arena. Shout out to Turkalou Ball Arena. 1010 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people mentioned that we've gone 1011 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 3: from the can as they called the Pepsi Center to 1012 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 3: the Jar now being Ballerina Mason Jar. I guess upper 1013 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: down on the nugget Pepsi Center being renamed. 1014 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: Ballerina ly well, I'm up on it because it's not 1015 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: the greatest name in the world, even though it's a 1016 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: pun of course in the basketball world. 1017 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: But what it actually represents. 1018 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: Is this company is a leader apparently in renewable and recycling. 1019 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 4: Aluminum and things like that. 1020 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 2: I know, I'm trying. 1021 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 4: I was trying to read up and I was trying 1022 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: to get the worst right. 1023 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: But it's all sustainability, so it's trying to make the 1024 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: experience a little bit more environmentally friendly for everybody. 1025 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm thumbs up on all that, thumb thumbs 1026 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 3: up on no idea. 1027 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: No, I know, because it's not just it's not just 1028 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: this arena, it's it's basically the Arsenal Football Club in London, 1029 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: because the cron Keys are on that as well, and 1030 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: there's another team as well. 1031 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 4: I can't remember who. 1032 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 6: That is, Los Angeles Rams the ramsy By Stadium. Yeah, 1033 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 6: I copied this here. Let me read it for you. 1034 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 6: You can say aluminum for me though, because I don't 1035 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 6: know how to prevent. The partnership includes sustainable and environmentally 1036 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 6: friendly elements that will be established at Ball Arena Sofi 1037 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 6: Stadium for the Rams Emmert Stadium in London for Arsenal. 1038 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 6: They vowed to transition to aluminum beverage packaging, cans, bottles 1039 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 6: and cups for one hundred percent of the venues concessions, 1040 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 6: with the goal implementing a closed loop system by twenty 1041 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 6: twenty two. That's amazing. Those cups, bottles and cans don't 1042 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 6: leave the stadium going to the back refreshed and they're 1043 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 6: back on the line. Amazing, h amazing. And the recycle industry, 1044 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, le whatever, whatever that 1045 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 6: initiative is, that is funmtal stuff. 1046 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: I'll just say, I mean the spelling of aluminium. You know, 1047 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,479 Speaker 1: it's an I M at the end, at. 1048 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 3: The end, I've got to run here. 1049 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm looking at it's aluminum. 1050 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 6: A I n U M. 1051 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 2: I think they're different things. 1052 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, maybe you guys are talking about 1053 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 3: two different things. 1054 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 4: I guess we don't. 1055 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 6: Really got an extra. 1056 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 3: They're the same thing. 1057 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 2: They're the same thing. Extra. 1058 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 5: I am an aluminium, but in American and Canadian English 1059 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 5: you're talking aluminum. 1060 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: For everyone else, that's aluminium. Fancy pants over here. 1061 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 5: It sounds no longer a man of the people going 1062 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 5: with pronunciation. 1063 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: Ball arena tray thumbs up or thumbs down. Forget this initiative. 1064 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 3: What about the name? 1065 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 5: Man, Well, it sucks for the Colorado Avalanche to have 1066 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 5: to play in the ball arena. 1067 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: That's brutal for that. 1068 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 5: These guys are using pucks and they're supposed to go 1069 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 5: out there and play their best. Come on. Oh yeah, 1070 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 5: it's a hilarious name, along the same lines as hoop Stadium, 1071 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 5: the game gardener, maybe even the sports center. I'm up, 1072 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 5: why not ball arena. 1073 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: It's hilarious. 1074 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw at honey am tweet. The Nuggets should 1075 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: trade for Lonzo sign Leangelo, trade up to draft Lamello, 1076 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 3: and then run a. 1077 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: Ball ball ball bowl ball. 1078 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 3: Line up in I mean, you need a fifth guy. 1079 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 3: They gotta do it, guys, but yeah, that's they gotta 1080 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: do it. That's an excellent idea. I love the name 1081 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 3: Pepsi Center, but I wonder what happens to the Pepsi product? 1082 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: Is it gone? 1083 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 3: You think it's there? 1084 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 4: Apparently? 1085 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I know that part. Good to know. 1086 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 3: In the new aluminum aluminium can. 1087 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: Change. 1088 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: That's what they change it to, the Aluminium Center, Aluminum aluminum. 1089 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: All right. 1090 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 5: So I've heard of aluminium cans. Obviously aluminium bottles. They're 1091 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 5: everywhere now. Aluminium cups sounds a bit crazy, Yeah, too far. 1092 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 3: I saw a photo of them. They look cool. I mean, 1093 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: I wonder cold that would be underhand? Carry on that 1094 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 3: back from the concession stand to your seat. You might 1095 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: have to wear gloves when you go to watch a 1096 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 3: Nuggets game. 1097 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: You better be buying a Nuggets koozy. They're gonna have 1098 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 2: them in the gift shop for sure. 1099 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 3: That's a really smart idea. Yeah, so you're right. Sucks 1100 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 3: for the Avalanche. It should be called the ball and 1101 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 3: Pack Arena, and that's what they should call it. Oh well, 1102 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 3: ball Aerina. See you later, Pepsi Center. Let's take one 1103 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 3: more quick break before we get to a few more updowns. 1104 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 3: What do you got, Trey? Excellent? 1105 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 2: All right? 1106 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 3: We have two more here. Over the last week, the 1107 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: Athletic introduce Seth Partners player tiers. I hope you guys 1108 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 3: saw this breaking down the top one and twenty five 1109 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 3: players in the NBA right now. So the four greatest 1110 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 3: players in the NBA right now, the one A guys 1111 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 3: according to Seth's metrics are Lebron, Jannis Harden, and Kalai 1112 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 3: Kurry and Durant right there in the one B category. 1113 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 3: They're one B dudes. But what really set the internet 1114 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: on fire Anthony Davis in the one A or B 1115 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 3: or C group. He's a Tier two guy, Anthony Davis. Gasp, 1116 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: guys up or down on the Athletics. Seth part now 1117 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 3: slotting Anthony Davis in tier two. 1118 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 6: What do you think, tass Yeah, after what happened in 1119 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 6: the NBA finals and Anthony Davis being a champion, I 1120 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 6: think just the recency of that led to the uproar 1121 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 6: of Seth's work, and so after one B it drops 1122 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 6: directly to two A where Anthony Davis is hanging with 1123 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 6: Luca and Nikola Jokic ahead of two B guys and 1124 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 6: two C guys. But let's step back from the finals. 1125 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 6: I think Seth it's fair work. It's fair work. Basically, 1126 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 6: I think his biggest argument with him not throwing him 1127 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 6: in with Giannis, Lebron, Kawhi, Hard and Durant and Curry 1128 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 6: is that he had seven years in New Orleans. He 1129 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 6: only took his team to the playoffs twice. And although 1130 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 6: this work is kind of about the future and if 1131 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 6: you look at next year, what tier are these guys in, 1132 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 6: it's kind of a detriment to Anthony Davis because he 1133 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 6: plays with Lebron James and so it's kind of impossible 1134 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 6: to know whether or not he could drag his team 1135 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 6: deep into the playoffs like those other six guys who 1136 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 6: are at the top. He hasn't been able to do that. 1137 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 6: He hasn't been really an offense unto himself like those 1138 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 6: other guys. And obviously the criticisms will go right at Gianni's, Oh, 1139 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 6: come on, he didn't do anything in the playoffs. Well, 1140 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 6: it's he is more of an offense than Anthony Davis's. 1141 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 6: It's just the way it's been. And Jannis Yep gets 1142 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 6: to the second round and gets bounced, people will criticize Harden. 1143 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 6: He has made a conference final on his own. He 1144 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 6: has gotten deeper. I think it is fair. He is 1145 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 6: flitting hairs, Seth is, and he says that in the piece, 1146 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 6: but it's a tough one to chop him down. I 1147 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 6: think the Luka doncic One is even a bigger uproar 1148 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 6: him not being in the Tier one category. But you 1149 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 6: got to draw the line, and it's coming off him 1150 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 6: winning the finals. If it's obviously, if this was coming 1151 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 6: off his first seven years of his career, then no 1152 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 6: one would have a problem him being in Tier two. 1153 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 6: But Lebron kind of, you know, boosts him into that stratosphere. 1154 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 6: But at the same time, if you throw any of 1155 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 6: those other Tier one guys on a team with Lebron James, 1156 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 6: if Jannis Kawhi, Harden, Durant or Curry or on a 1157 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 6: team with Lebron James, they're running the finals too, So 1158 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 6: it's kind of you can't work it both ways. I 1159 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 6: think Seth is being fair in this instance. 1160 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think, Leland? You go, what do 1161 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: you think about this? Even the tiers in general? Is 1162 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: it better than doing hey, top ten, top fifteen? I 1163 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: sort of like it. I think it's sort of cool 1164 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 3: trying to slap these guys, But what do you think 1165 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 3: of eighty specifically? 1166 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, Well, there's no real way to agree 1167 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: across the board on these things because it all comes 1168 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: down to opinions and biases that we have towards our 1169 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: favorite players. But I'm going to judge it on what 1170 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: we know right now, and there's no way I would 1171 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: have James Hadden and the head of Anthony Das. And 1172 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that because of my history 1173 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: with James Harden, but Anthony Davis. I can't believe anyone 1174 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: would pick James Harden over him as far as if 1175 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: you were picking a team right now, because Davis is 1176 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: a two way player and he was sensational for the 1177 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: Lakers in the playoffs, and whether I was playing with 1178 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: Lebron or not. I mean, he's shown us for a 1179 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: while he has the talent, but now he had a 1180 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: platform where he really it really came out. So my 1181 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: opinion would be Davis. Just because you could have two 1182 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: players from the same team in the Tier one, I 1183 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: would still do it. I think Anthony Davis has proven 1184 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: that this season. And look, there was pressure on him 1185 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: coming into this season because in the sense that okay, 1186 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: now you're on a good team with good players, you 1187 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: have to deliver, and I think he did that. I 1188 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: think he did that very, very comfortably and very dominating 1189 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 1: for the most part in the playoffs. I mean, Lebron 1190 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: was fantastic in the finals, but Anthony Davis was not 1191 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: far away from just how good he was. And so 1192 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: for me, he's a Tier one player. 1193 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 5: Okay, Trey Seth says and his radar that this is 1194 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 5: Tier one SEE or Tier two A, and they might 1195 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 5: as easily be known as Tier one point five. But 1196 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 5: to me, Anthony Davis is the definition of Tier one 1197 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 5: point five, like Seth is saying, like Tass is mentioning, 1198 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 5: He's not a guy who's going to necessarily carry your 1199 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 5: team offensively. From a standpoint of give him the ball, 1200 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 5: he's going to be able to go get a great 1201 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 5: shot and get that shot. 1202 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 2: But he's a. 1203 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 5: Perfect number two guy who accumulate accumulates points an efficiency 1204 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 5: like a number one player, right Like, just from getting rebounds, 1205 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 5: offensive rebounds, lobs, just little plays where he's scrapping along. 1206 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 5: He's able to get you to twenty five points per 1207 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 5: game in the NBA Final shooting fifty seven percent. He's 1208 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 5: obviously a number one guy on defense, a de defensive 1209 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 5: Player of the Year caliber wrecker on that side, he's 1210 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 5: for me, the biggest mismatch in the league. I have 1211 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 5: him clearly ahead of Jokic from having just watched the 1212 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 5: playoffs and the entirety of their careers. I think the 1213 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 5: two way value that Davis gives you is a little 1214 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 5: bit more important than what you're getting from Yokich as 1215 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 5: a number one guy on offense and a little bit 1216 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 5: of defense. But he had his own team for a 1217 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 5: long time and the success wasn't massive. Once he got 1218 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 5: alongside Lebron James, you saw exactly what he could be 1219 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 5: and the perfect role for him. He's maybe a little 1220 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 5: bit miscast as the ultimate number one give him the ball, 1221 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 5: go get a bucket guy, but he was even better 1222 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 5: with that during the NBA Finals. You know, he had 1223 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 5: so many of those eighteen to twenty foot jumpers, which 1224 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 5: if those are going to be dropping come the next season, 1225 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,439 Speaker 5: then yeah, you're gonna easily move Anthony Davis up into 1226 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 5: Tier one. But he's kind of in the perfect middle 1227 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 5: spot where he's the best number two guy in the 1228 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 5: league just because he doesn't have to be the best 1229 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 5: number one guy. Because he's got the best number one guy. 1230 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, Steff's got him in the right spot. You 1231 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 5: can bump him up to tier one for me, or 1232 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 5: you could keep him right here at the top of 1233 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 5: Tier two. 1234 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 2: That's why he's one point five. 1235 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, highly recommend if you haven't done so, to 1236 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: do a deep dive on the Athletics seth Partner's player 1237 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 3: rankings here the tiers. He did so much work on this. 1238 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really cool to see him 1239 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 3: hopefully continue to do this next season and see where 1240 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 3: guys like either bump up or fall out or stay 1241 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 3: in what particular tiers. It's pretty amazing stuff. This is obviously, 1242 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, because he's like a numbers guy. It's metrics 1243 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 3: base like you're gonna learn a ton, So go check 1244 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 3: this out if you haven't already. It's on the Athletic 1245 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 3: and let's hear from you guys whether or not you 1246 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 3: agree is ad a Tier two or should he be 1247 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 3: up in the Tier one? Let us know on Twitter 1248 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 3: at no dungk sink. Let us know on the stream 1249 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 3: team here Final one JD. I'm gonna go to you first, 1250 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 3: but I got to read this whole thing because it's amazing. 1251 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 3: The supposed plot of Lebron james long awaited Space Jam two, 1252 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 3: A New Legacy has hit Twitter sounds even more bonkers 1253 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 3: than the ninety six original. Though a synopsis for the 1254 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 3: film was shared by a Hollywood writer and director Ben Meckler, 1255 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 3: it reads, I'm gonna read this whole thing because again 1256 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 3: it's incredible. During a trip to the Warner Brothers studio, 1257 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 3: NBA superstar Lebron James and his son accidentally get trapped 1258 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 3: within a world that contains all of the Warner Brothers 1259 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,959 Speaker 3: stories and characters under the control of a malfunctioning all 1260 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 3: powerful force named AIG played by Don Chietdel. With the 1261 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 3: help of Bugs Bunny, Lebron must navigate through a never 1262 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 3: before imagine world filled with iconic movie scenes and characters 1263 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 3: as they reassemble the Looney Tunes to rescue his lost son. 1264 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 3: Now to get back home, Lebron and the Tunes have 1265 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: to unravel AIG's mysterious plan and win an epic basketball 1266 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 3: game against digital gamified super versions of the NBA and 1267 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 3: WNBA's biggest stars as the entire world watches. So this 1268 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 3: is crazy, this leaked plot. If this is true for 1269 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 3: Space Jam two could involve the entire Warner Brothers basically 1270 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 3: movie catalog. Jd up or down on again this leaked 1271 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 3: plot for Space Jam two. 1272 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 8: Well, I'm very torn because I hate Space Jam as 1273 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 8: we discussed already on a previous episode of the show. 1274 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 8: But I love an Easter Egg hunt, you know, like 1275 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 8: I love seeing references and stuff like that in movies. 1276 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 8: So I think ultimately I'm up, okay, But I mean, 1277 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 8: here's what we know for sure. Well, just based on 1278 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 8: there was some leaked footage from the Rap Party, so 1279 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 8: we saw we're going to the Mask. We're gonna see 1280 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 8: Jim Carrey as the Mask. We've seen Voldemort, so we 1281 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 8: got some Harry Potter in there. Wow, we have Jared 1282 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 8: Leto as the Joker, that's the Suicide Squad Joker, who 1283 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 8: it was revealed this week is coming back for this 1284 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 8: Justice League remake or redo the Snyder cut of Just 1285 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,439 Speaker 8: Who Cares? Okay, And I looked on IMDb and we've 1286 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 8: got in the cast. We've got two war Boys, so 1287 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 8: we're going to Mad Max. I'm excited about that. Wow, 1288 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 8: We've got Casa Blanca fes men, so we're gonna go 1289 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 8: to Castle Blanc. Or we're gonna see them go to 1290 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 8: Castle Blanca, I guess. And there's there's there's somebody in 1291 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 8: the cast named Trinity. Well that's the Matrix, so it's 1292 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 8: not carry Moss, but you know, maybe it's the back 1293 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 8: of her head or something. So I mean, oh, when 1294 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 8: we saw the Pennywise from it, so it's like, okay, cool, 1295 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 8: I guess. 1296 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not much of a kid's movie exactly. 1297 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 8: It's exactly right, you know, And it's not exactly an 1298 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 8: original idea because we've seen it in Ready Player one 1299 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 8: and Spielberg. You know, they do this whole shining thing 1300 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 8: and it's fine, I guess. I mean, who you know 1301 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 8: who really did it well? Was the Avengers Endgame when 1302 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 8: they went back to their own movies, and that was 1303 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 8: kind of cool. 1304 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1305 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 8: The Lego movie also was. They did a pretty good 1306 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 8: job bringing in all the Warner Brothers characters. I mean, 1307 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 8: but yeah, I'm up on it. I guess what would 1308 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 8: be really cool? This is what I want to see, 1309 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 8: And then I'm this will be the best movie of 1310 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 8: the decade if they do this. If they bring in 1311 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,959 Speaker 8: alcoholic Ben Affleck from the Warner Brothers movie The Way 1312 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 8: Back to coach the team. Now, that's next level. 1313 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 3: That would be amazing. Okay, okay if we see the 1314 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 3: drunk Ben affleck yeah, coaching this team. All right, So Jada, 1315 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 3: you're up on it because like you're at least intrigued 1316 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 3: by this. 1317 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I mean I'm not going to go 1318 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 8: see Space Jam and New Legacy. I mean I'm not 1319 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 8: going to the theater to see that. You know, when 1320 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 8: it comes on HBO Max, which I'm sure it will, 1321 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 8: I'll watch it, I guess, just so I can go, oh, yeah, 1322 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 8: we should review. 1323 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're definitely going to review it. There will be 1324 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 3: a film session on Space Jam two. 1325 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 8: So it's just like, oh is that guy there? 1326 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 3: He is? Oh that's that woman. 1327 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 8: I remember her, but his you know, Sebastian and Oscar 1328 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 8: sitting watching like, oh, I can't believe they went to 1329 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 8: Casa Blanca. 1330 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. 1331 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 6: Doctor Chibago. 1332 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 8: Did you see that? Guys? 1333 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1334 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 6: All right, well they just watched Borat? Did they like Borat? 1335 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 4: My kids? 1336 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1337 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 8: Oh they loved it, loved it. 1338 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 2: See Warner Brothers. 1339 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 8: No, that's Amazon. 1340 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 4: I'm prime, Amazon Prime. 1341 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 3: Right right right right? Okay, So Lee, what do you 1342 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 3: think about. 1343 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: This from from the time this was rumored to the 1344 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: time we're actually going to see it, it feels like this 1345 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: has been the longest build up to a movie of 1346 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: all time. So I'm just hoping that it gets here 1347 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: soon and we can watch it and then trash it. Okay, 1348 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: so because everyone's going to trash it and just say, 1349 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: why do they even do this? You know, Space Jam Stark, 1350 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: this one's even worse. Let's just see it. 1351 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Man's everybody thinks. I know, I didn't mind it. 1352 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: I didn't mind it myself, but that's the general sort 1353 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: of opinion is that people didn't like Space Jam, so, 1354 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: you know. 1355 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 4: But also Kyle Kuzma is in this. 1356 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Anthony Davis, isn't it. Yeah, I know Lillard's 1357 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 3: in it as well. 1358 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: I think maybe James harden It, you know, big big 1359 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: names in there. 1360 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 4: And KOs gets a run too. 1361 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 2: He's not even freakishly toll like Sean Bradley. 1362 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean if Bouba he had to be 1363 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: in it, and he's not, So I think they missed 1364 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity. 1365 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 5: There is John Wicker Warner Brothers property. They could go 1366 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 5: back to him fighting. 1367 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, think about Bobart he is such a great 1368 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: personality and he'd be such a great character. 1369 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 4: In that movie. So you know, I'm disappointed, but. 1370 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 8: It's kind of a bummer that it sounds like they're 1371 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 8: having actual players play the game, which is I don't 1372 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 8: like I want to see dirty Harry on the court, 1373 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 8: you know, like right right. Bruce Lee answered the dragon. 1374 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, you know he's not really dead. 1375 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 3: It's in a book. 1376 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 4: It's in a book. 1377 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, thumbs up, thumbs down. 1378 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: I can't believe this isn't fake. 1379 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 5: I thought for sure it was fake based on this guy, 1380 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 5: what's his name, Ben? He seems to be a bit 1381 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 5: of a Twitter jokesterue and he is a comedy writer. 1382 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 5: This is a pretty funny sonop that was written by someone. 1383 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 5: But JD's right, there is somehow leaked footage of all 1384 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 5: these super weird scenes. I didn't know that that was 1385 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 5: out there. I threw in a quick Space Jam too, 1386 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 5: leaked footage into YouTube while you guys were talking. This 1387 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 5: thing looks weird, man, And is there a chance that's 1388 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 5: gonna be rated? R if they're going back to the majors? 1389 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 5: Are we getting an adult space jam movie? What the 1390 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 5: people have finally been clamoring for this movie is not 1391 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 5: made for kids. That would be awesome if Lebron said, Yeah, 1392 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 5: everybody that saw this when you were eleven years old, 1393 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,959 Speaker 5: you're gonna love it at thirty five years old. 1394 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Let's see it. Let's see the R rated version. 1395 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 3: Wow, task finish this off. 1396 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 6: You a upper down on this man only if Leandro 1397 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 6: Barbosa is the Roadrunner or something of that nature. I 1398 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 6: don't know. This is very confusing. It's confusing, so let's 1399 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 6: just let's let's bring it up. It's it's hard. It's 1400 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 6: really hard, as Jad was saying, to throw in all 1401 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 6: these characters as it. I don't know. I don't know 1402 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 6: how they're gonna do it, but I'll be watching, but 1403 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 6: I'll be watch. 1404 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 3: I guess if you're to believe this synopsis, you're right. 1405 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 3: They're just gonna be like popping into all these different worlds, right, 1406 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 3: Like that's what I get, because, yeah, it doesn't sound 1407 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 3: like Voldemort. It's gonna be playing center versus Lebron and 1408 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Maloney's which is like that sort of sounds like it 1409 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 3: could be fun. 1410 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, but why doesn't Boldemort just cast a spell in 1411 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 6: the locker room on the other team or something, you know, 1412 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 6: like there's some integration. H I don't know. 1413 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 3: We'll see, guys, let's hear from you. Thumbs upper, thumbs 1414 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 3: down on this leaked plot for space Jam too. Let 1415 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 3: us know. Let's call it there. Friendly reminder. Keep sending 1416 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 3: your questions for the next beach step in podcast. 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So 1425 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: join us on Wednesday, we go on live with that. 1426 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,479 Speaker 2: JD. 1427 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 8: What's the sure might as well? 1428 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 6: I guess, yeah, all. 1429 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 3: Right, I didn't know if that was gonna be a 1430 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 3: heavy workload for you. But it's a lot of production 1431 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 3: on that one. 1432 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 8: Well maybe we could scrap some of the production. 1433 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point. So okay, it looks sounds 1434 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 3: like we're going live, so join us at ten am 1435 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Eastern on YouTube. Make sure you subscribe to No Dunks 1436 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 3: on YouTube. Hit that little notification bell so you know 1437 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 3: when we're going live Wednesday, ten am. Squad Halloween a Dish. 1438 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 3: I can't wait to argue about Halloween candy with you guys. 1439 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: It's a Halloween movie. Man, Oh, that's gonna be that's 1440 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna be debate or lot. 1441 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 4: You're going a few of them? 1442 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 3: All right, that's a hell of a cheese. What do 1443 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 3: you think. 1444 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 2: Let's just get it out of the way, right, what 1445 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 2: are you thinking? Okay, missus Doe. 1446 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Fire, she's in costume. It's not a Halloween. 1447 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Movie, all right, But okay, there's a dress up scene 1448 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I'm not sure if it's Halloween or just 1449 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: a dress up body. 1450 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 3: Clipper Bros, Clipper bro. 1451 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 6: Have you heard it here? 1452 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 2: First, have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome. 1453 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us. And remember, Philadelphia is not a 1454 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 6: Halloween movie. And Bruce Lee, it's definitely dead, but he's 1455 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 6: not really dead. Did you know that? It's in a book? 1456 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 3: In a book. Embrace the day people. 1457 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 2: You could stay. 1458 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 7: Boo every day. My dad, you happy every minute. It's 1459 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 7: been so long that your fun a ways he's happened already. 1460 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 7: It's gonna be groovy.