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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: And so just like that, three days work in the books.

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Speaker 2: Ready for the finale of on field workouts here from

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis and the twenty twenty five in a NFL scouting combine.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of Move the Sticks. Red Lewis,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, Lance, he's coming, helloing Lance. Yeah, he'll be

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Speaker 2: here at some point. But man, this was a fun

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Speaker 2: Day three.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: Day three is always fun anytime we can get the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: the running backs, the receivers out there throw some routes

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Speaker 2: a little bit, which I feel like is one of

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Speaker 2: the things where you can actually visualize what a guy

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Speaker 2: does well, maybe more so than in some of the

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Speaker 2: other drills with the other position groups, because it is

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Speaker 2: practical we are going to see them run those obviously

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Speaker 2: without shoulder pads, without all that stuff. But Bucky, overall

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Speaker 2: impression from the three groups that we did see yesterday,

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Speaker 2: what do you what would you how would you describe it?

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Speaker 4: I would say rad at continue to be impressed with

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Speaker 4: the overall athleticism and explosiveness of all of the skill positions.

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Speaker 4: Running back, wide, receivers, just great. Athletes great suddenness. I

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Speaker 4: think we're in a great place in terms of the

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Speaker 4: guys coming into the league. There's a lot of conversation

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Speaker 4: about wide receivers and there not being the impact guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's necessarily true.

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Speaker 4: I think these guys that we saw run around, particularly

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Speaker 4: will see them surprise us with how well they play.

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Speaker 4: But obviously you talk about Golden and you talk about

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Speaker 4: the running backs or whatever like that was pretty good,

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Speaker 4: and then we'll get to the quarterbacks and the other perform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's start with the running backs here because

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Speaker 2: they were on the field first. But I would say

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Speaker 2: Quinchin Judkins to me, maybe helped themselves more than anybody

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Speaker 2: showcasing his athleticism, because look, I think we've all seen

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Speaker 2: him run the football right at Ohio State, at Ole Miss,

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Speaker 2: you know, over thousand yards at Old Miss every year.

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Speaker 2: And then he starts sharing the load with Traveon Henderson,

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Speaker 2: who I think most people really felt like was probably

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Speaker 2: of the home run ability, kind of Jamiir Gibbs light

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Speaker 2: type of player, right, But then Quinchohn comes in and

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Speaker 2: I mean runs, puts an incredible time up. Let me

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Speaker 5: But he had it.

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Speaker 3: I mean four four to eight was his official.

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Speaker 2: He hit thirty eight and a half on the vert

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Speaker 2: I mean for the guy that brings a little bit

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Speaker 5: Really good numbers.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing with running backs is always funny,

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Speaker 4: like we always think about the game really been played

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Speaker 4: rare that you have the explosive runs unless you're say

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Speaker 5: Anywhere on the field.

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Speaker 4: But when you see guys that are able to run

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Speaker 4: third level and beyond Jackkins is interesting because you're right,

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Speaker 4: and look and wonder what could Junkins be if he

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Speaker 2: Sure right, there is there more in there, right, because

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Speaker 3: Which were really really good.

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Speaker 2: They're basehal Tootin' scoot that brother Scooting's.

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Speaker 4: Lance's guy Lance had been on him the entire time

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Speaker 4: I want to take someone later, but because the depth

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And we always do it. On path to the.

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Speaker 5: If we get to our pick and one of those

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Speaker 2: You know, went obviously four three nine and you know

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, like it's funny because I'm looking at

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Speaker 5: There's so many different things.

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Speaker 5: You certainly like to see that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's switch gears here when we come back, let's

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Speaker 2: who really stole the show towards the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: with you on move the Stexs, Red Lewis, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Switching our focus now to the quarterbacks and the receivers

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Speaker 4: And they run counter because like there's something where like

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Speaker 4: I would say that in these things where it's your

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Speaker 4: get Jalen Hurst. Plus, I love the leadership, the intangibile's,

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Speaker 2: At I would agree with you on that. I felt

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Speaker 2: incredible talent, incredible potential, and it feels like another guy.

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Speaker 2: And I know we make that comparison with Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 4: They're not just saying Lamar Jackson is light years ahead

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Speaker 4: And look, he's super athletic. I know he's played quarterback

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Speaker 3: I get it. He's older, he's got four degrees.

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Speaker 2: He's played in five different offenses, six if you count

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Speaker 2: ACCURACY i thought he nailed it in the throwing portion

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Speaker 5: Academically so you love that he's a goal setter and

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Speaker 4: Finish and then it's the arm, talent the natural, talent

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Speaker 5: Louisville it is what it.

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Speaker 2: That he feels like the injuries were freak things and

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Speaker 5: No it's not like you make for a fascinating.

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Speaker 5: Things the conversation will go wherever it goes in meeting.

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Speaker 4: There he can tease you with the fact that maybe

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Speaker 2: Discussion, look, ultimately there's good tape out there On Jackson,

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Speaker 5: Row but they're all clod to to me.

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Speaker 2: When you, throw when you get them back to back

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Speaker 1: Maybe this guy because WHEN i watch you just in

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Speaker 1: Up But dart is like hog and all the. Women

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Speaker 2: Years, yeah, No dolphins need like you know, that get

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Speaker 1: Year he's With Butch davison And Pete rodriguez and that

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Speaker 1: Him but they, Said, larry you might have if we

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Speaker 1: Yeah this is a. Tackle and he's, like, yeah seventh,

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Speaker 1: believe in this, guy and he said he had to

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00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: come in and he just was not ready to play

441
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 1: in THE, Nfl and he, SAID i learned a lesson

442
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: is you better fight for the guys that you think

443
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: can get you out of a game as a backup

444
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: or can do a good. Job so To bucky's, point, like,

445
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: YEAH i think there's a lot of backups here and

446
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 1: pretty good. Backups, ACTUALLY i think it'll be some pretty

447
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 1: good backups. Here but in terms of guys that tantle

448
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,719
Speaker 1: it that give me the hope of this guy may

449
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 1: come in and be a three game. STARTER i guess

450
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 1: it's always you talk about three game. Starter what can you?

451
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 1: Do can you win two out of three as a

452
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: three game?

453
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 5: Starter are you good?

454
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 1: Enough schuck may be one of the only guys out

455
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: of the after the first two THAT i.

456
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 5: Think could do.

457
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 4: That and think about, this because before we talked about,

458
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 4: chev we also talked About Jaylen.

459
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 5: Milroe and the guy THAT i would use Is Malik.

460
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 4: Willis, yeah so like the one thing About malik willis

461
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 4: like it wasn't all, perfect but we could see some.

462
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 5: Tools, yeah that. Intrigued you didn't work In, tennessee but

463
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 5: he goes.

464
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 4: To Green, Bay bet three or, whatever and so that

465
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 4: would give me hope not only a, check but it

466
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 4: would give me hope On.

467
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 5: Mirroe right, situation right, environment maybe they can develop, it

468
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 5: but it takes having the. Tools you have to be

469
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: able to see the tools to be able to do.

470
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 5: It don't waste your time with someone who doesn't have.

471
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 2: TOOLS i Thought Riley leonard had a nice day. Yesterday

472
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: for the most, part he.

473
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: Did he's a good LITTLE i was talking to a

474
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: personnel guy who really Liked. TRILEY i, said what is

475
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: it do you like About? Riley AND i, said you,

476
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't think he really has the arm to

477
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: play in THE. Nfl he's kind of a little bit slender.

478
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: Framed AND i, said do you think he can move

479
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 1: to another? Person do you think he could be an?

480
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: Athlete he, goes, no he's a. Quarterback he. Said he

481
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: has a mentality like he just he, said there's certain

482
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: guys you can just feel like these guys can.

483
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 5: Be a pro he, SAID i don't. Know, yes, yeah,

484
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 5: yeah and he just and this GUY i.

485
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: WAS i was surprised at some of the things he

486
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: was saying BECAUSE i don't always see that on, tape

487
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: but he did mention AND i do agree with.

488
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 5: This if you go back to The duke, tape it's

489
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 5: a little better than WHAT i.

490
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 4: Saw another fact That Duke, man there was a conversation

491
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 4: that they thought he was going to be the next.

492
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 4: One if you go back before the, stuff the injuries

493
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 4: and any transfers out, like there was a conversation that

494
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 4: he was really going to be a guy in the

495
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 4: expectation he was gonna be a guy in whatever draft

496
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: class he came. Out it didn't play out like, that

497
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 4: BUT i would say, THIS i was more impressed with

498
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 4: him as he got the games got bigger For Notre.

499
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 4: Dame on the, STRETCH i would, say even though he

500
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: couldn't sustain it that first drive Versus Ohio, state when

501
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 4: he's slamming it up in, there now it almost killed,

502
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: him but he certainly displayed a level of toughness and

503
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 4: grit and those things that you. Like and look in

504
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: a league where we talk About Tommy DeVito playing and

505
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: some of the other backup quarterbacks that were we've seen

506
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: play meaningful.

507
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 5: Snaps, yeah WELL i Couldn't riley let it.

508
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: GO i, mean look at O'Connell has started a lot

509
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 4: for The Las vegas.

510
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: RATE a lot of it is managing those situations, Too

511
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: like you, KNOW i get caught up and most people

512
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: get caught, up and we got to look at the

513
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: physical stuff and we look at the.

514
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: Throws and this and.

515
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: That but that's the one position where really you do

516
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: have to factor in. Toughness you have to fact and mental,

517
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: toughness not physical, toughness mental, toughness, leadership like there are

518
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: the intangibles really do matter at. Quarterback. NOW i don't

519
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: see a starter personally With Riley. LEONARD i JUST i just.

520
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: Don't but you could ask, yourself do you see a

521
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: three game, starter because that's the difference between being a

522
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: good backup who has a chance to elevate himself maybe

523
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: to an eventual.

524
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 5: Starter in the league with more you, know with more.

525
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: Time and two of the hot names in the, summer

526
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: two guys that had little buzz Where Brady cook at

527
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: A missouri And brady was actually and he had some

528
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: throws like it comes out easy For Brady. Cook he

529
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: just had really poor tape this year relative to the year.

530
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: Before but when the ball comes out Of Brady cook's,

531
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: hands it's. Easy the throws were very.

532
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: Easy kind of like, that Like quen you weres in

533
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: that first, group like he could tell he was the

534
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: more natural.

535
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: Thrower it felt like he's always been, that he's always.

536
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: Been comes, easier easier.

537
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: Gas you, know he's just a very laid back. Personality

538
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: like you, don't, yeah you. Don't And i'll talk with

539
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: the team who interviewed, him said great. Kid you know

540
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: he's got some. Talent they just, said you, know he

541
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: just doesn't have juice in the. Room you, know you

542
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: just don't really feel. Him he's a he's a guy

543
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: who will be a go along to get along, guy

544
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: but they they question whether or not he's got he's

545
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: got it in him to step up.

546
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 5: Again someone's. Face.

547
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah Aaron cerell told me From, texas told me, that you,

548
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: know he'd been Around, texas you, know and Seeing quinn

549
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: the whole, time and was Like quinn really got better

550
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: as a leader really throughout his time. THERE i kind

551
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: of saw that that was an area where he wanted

552
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: to you, know kind of improve and take charge and

553
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: kind of saw that happen as it kind of kept.

554
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: Going all, right let's go around the. Horn just to

555
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: finish up, Here, Lance i'll start with you give me

556
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: a receiver outside of the forty that you kind of.

557
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: Liked watch move around out.

558
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 5: Here you, KNOW.

559
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I i actually Like Jayden. Higgins, OKAY i thought he did, it,

560
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah Iowa. STATE i thought he did a nice. Job you,

561
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: know it's funny because the conversation, is do you like

562
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: tech McMillan or do you like discount tech. McMillan, yeah

563
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: because a discount tech tech McMillan's going to Be Jadan

564
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 1: higgin in the second, round or do you Like tetna?

565
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: First and if you think those those two are close,

566
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: together and all of a, sudden like like a couple

567
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: of CONVERSATIONS i, had then all of a, sudden you're

568
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: really maybe, targeting, Uh you're you're Targeting Jayden higgins.

569
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: Maybe and you say we're gonna go, ahead different different.

570
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: Direction in the first, value and we'll go get a wide.

571
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: Receiver.

572
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: See i'm also a big fan Of. BADGER i think

573
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: It's Elijah badger from my From. Florida he, went he

574
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: came over From Arizona, state went To. Florida he ran

575
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: a four to four to one yesterday in the forty

576
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: which was which was really, fast a good, time a good.

577
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: Time and Then dominic Love it From.

578
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: Georgia oh you do LIKE dj AND i have gotten

579
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: into This WHEN dj season was a sixty, one which

580
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: is more of a good backup to lower end. STARTER

581
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: i see him as a sixty, three which is an

582
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: above average starter in the. SLOT i Think dominic Love

583
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: it is really, Smooth he's got good, speed AND i

584
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: just think that you didn't get to see as much

585
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: on him and tape Because Carson beck really struggled this.

586
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Year BUT i Think Love it has a chance to

587
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: be a really, fun under the radar starting.

588
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: SLOT i Like Matthew golden and the REASON i Like

589
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 4: Matthew golden because there's something about talks offty with carry big.

590
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: Stick sure, so.

591
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: But his teammates he really put a target on his

592
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 4: back saying he was all for to one and all.

593
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 5: That Matthew golden just went out there and put it.

594
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 5: Down and then what it led you to do is

595
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 5: to go back and look at the.

596
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: Tape but both of those guys on the field and

597
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: then you begin to look At Matthew golden in a

598
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: little different. Light you begin to look at him as.

599
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: Well maybe he really was more the lead receiver and

600
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: not the. COMPLIMENT i know there was a lot of

601
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: conversation About Isaiah, bomb but Maybe Matthew golden is.

602
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 5: The, one and now you're seeing.

603
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: Buzz Is Matthew golden gonna be the new wide, receiver

604
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: one of the. Class you think about the combination of route, running, speed,

605
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: hands critical moment. Plays he's.

606
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Interesting he certainly had a well four two nine thought

607
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: four THREE o at the, time four two, nine and he,

608
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: said bring me my. Bag, yeah they put these shoes in,

609
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: here and put my hoodie in. Here we're.

610
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: Done.

611
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 5: Routes, yeah were not running a second Forty we are.

612
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: Done and you know, WHAT i want to see him

613
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: running outes and all that, stuff but, realistically and don't

614
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: make any.

615
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: Difference he's good running outs On, yeah the tape's. Good

616
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: it really didn't.

617
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Matter SO i was up in the in the suitet

618
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: level where we have THE nfl network, stuff And Steve

619
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: sarkis and the head coach Of texas was in there

620
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: along With Brandon, harris one of their their personnel, guys

621
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: and they were blown away when When Matthew golden ran

622
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: his fourth three to, zero it was like they couldn't believe.

623
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: IT i think they thought he was going to maybe

624
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: be a high four to four, Guy like they didn't

625
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: think he had that.

626
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: Kind of Speed bond would be.

627
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: Switched, yeah they thought they Thought bond was going to

628
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: be the fast. One.

629
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: NOW i had heard rumors that he was training in

630
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: the in the fourth, Threes Matthew, golden and then he

631
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: had a chance to break for, fourth which four four

632
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: two four fourth three to me is a great.

633
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 5: Speed it's.

634
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Fine we get so caught up and so many guys four, three,

635
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: yes but they could not believe it like they, were

636
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: Especially Brandon harris was legitimately.

637
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: Stunned like, stunned they couldn't believe. It but that gets to.

638
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: Them maybe they couldn't evaluate their own. Personnelity maybe there's

639
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: some regret like man.

640
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: And maybe he plays at ninety percent, speed like just

641
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: maybe he has a little extra something in, there which

642
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: is scary considering how good he. Played but there's a

643
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: talk about it and a be about, it AND i

644
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Think bond has tremendous. Talent but unfortunately there's not a

645
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: lot of production during his career to like he didn't

646
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: have That Matthew golden year At alabama Or.

647
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Texas so two final guys That i'll throw in there

648
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: that showed up in the routes to, Me Jack, BASH

649
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: i think did what we thought he was going to

650
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: do based on what we saw at The Senior, bowl

651
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: and he kind of just feels like THE f one fifty.

652
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: That can like rev up well IT'S v.

653
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: Eight it's like got the whole, thing like and just

654
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: like the way he he like eats up grass down the.

655
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: Field you just like he really attacks off the ball

656
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: and then can he actually sink and he can.

657
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Get his stems like there's a lot of, FORCE i

658
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: know what you. Mean it's like a lot of force

659
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: stemming out of his.

660
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: Brakes and Then Isaac taslough From, ARKANSAS i, mean you

661
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: want to talk about some some really kind of freaky

662
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: numbers for a guy that big four four four four

663
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: three was the OFFICIAL uh one five to one on

664
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: the ten thirty nine and a half of the vert

665
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: and ten nine in the BROAD i think there's something

666
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: there even beyond you know what he what he can

667
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: contribute as a.

668
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Receiver, well his agent tried a big time me and

669
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: the uh, Oh i'll come back from The Senior bowl

670
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: last last, year two years.

671
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: Ago he didn't. KNOW i, MEAN i was sitting right

672
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: next to.

673
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Him i'm, LIKE i hear him talking about, players AND i,

674
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: Thought i'll just when he gets off the, Front i'll

675
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: just strike up a little, conversation find out whoever the top.

676
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: BALL i love talking, Ball, Right he just, like, No

677
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 5: i'm trying.

678
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: TO i don't need. You just do your.

679
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: Own you don't even. THINK i don't think he knew

680
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: THAT i do WHAT i.

681
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Do but he was just like and so THEN i

682
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: found out he Had Tesla and but, SEE i don't

683
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: let that stuff CLOUD i. CAN i can love an.

684
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: Agent there's lots of Agents i'm good friends with and

685
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: they hate WHAT i have to. Say But i'm. Sorry

686
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: i'm gonna say. It i'm sorry BECAUSE i put my

687
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: name on this SO i will Never and this guy

688
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: who was kind of a jerk to, me your dude's

689
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: bawling out like your.

690
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: Dude not only, him but.

691
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Another, guy another safety who had a great workout as.

692
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Well you, know it is what it, is and these,

693
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: guys this is what this is for for me to.

694
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: SAY i thought he was. Okay he's a, big good looking.

695
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: SLOT i thought he. WAS i thought he was. OKAY

696
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: i get him an okay. Grade but when you see

697
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: this stuff out here and you see how big and

698
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: well put together he, is that's the mismatch position the

699
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: big slot. Now and if you can work and you

700
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: got that kind of, EXPLOSIVENESS i gotta respect, it AND i,

701
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: GOTTA i.

702
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: Gotta you're coming up after the, combine.

703
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: NO i mean, yeah everyone talks about the big slide

704
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: receiver is the cheat. Code it's the one thing that

705
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: everyone is. Doing when you have a big guy that

706
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: can plan a, slide that can, move create mismatches in,

707
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: space but it's big enough to dig people out in

708
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: the run.

709
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: Game you like all of, that no.

710
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: Question all, right, guys that's it for our recaps From

711
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: indianapolis on our little three set series here On move

712
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: The sticks back with you next. WEEK dj will be

713
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: back with his thoughts after spending four days up in

714
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: the booth With Rich. Eisen i'll have all that for

715
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: you coming up next. Week but thanks as always for

716
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: being with us right here on the The sticks