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Speaker 1: And so it attracts talent. And you know, we're we're

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Speaker 1: trying to get millennials to to stick around and and

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Speaker 1: um and actually serve in our organizations. But I think

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Speaker 1: want to help you for a season, you know, and

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Speaker 1: if that's six months or two years or whatever, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna embrace this, and I'm gonna help you get to

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Speaker 1: where you want to be in life. And then they

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Speaker 1: in turn actually leave a trail of high performance in

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Speaker 1: my organization. And we know it's really interesting you say that,

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Speaker 1: because I've always had that philosophy. I will always tell people,

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Speaker 1: don't expect to get rich with me. I want to

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Speaker 1: prepare you for your next career. You take the tools,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of times they didn't get it. They

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Speaker 1: didn't see the value of what I was putting in place.

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Speaker 1: And now I get phone calls thank you. I understand.

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Speaker 1: Now I see what you're trying to accomplish in my life.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that you work for Chick fil A.

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Speaker 1: But you look at that, that's not the goal in

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Speaker 1: our relationship. Our relationship to take the values that I'm

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Speaker 1: teaching you here and use them someplacels. If you happen

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Speaker 1: to become a franchise, which has happened on your leadership,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome, that's a that's the double blessing. But if

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Speaker 1: you don't take these tools, what are some of the

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Speaker 1: usa some of the tools that you say they they

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Speaker 1: that you give them the walk away with, what are

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Speaker 1: some of the tools? So one is really helping them

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Speaker 1: adopt a similar leadership philosophy, that helping them see that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to lead out of fear um, but

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Speaker 1: you actually have to hold people accountable. You can't just

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Speaker 1: be a passive leader either. And so helping them find,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the actual middle ground of leadership to

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Speaker 1: where they can actually love people. But sometimes you may

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Speaker 1: just have to put your arm around him saying I

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Speaker 1: love you, I care about you, but you can't work

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Speaker 1: here anymore easily. About the door, we love absolutely because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do just job for the check,

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Speaker 1: and that's the worst employee to have. It's just coming

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Speaker 1: to work to pay for the rent. You have to

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Speaker 1: have employees of people who believe in your brands, people

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Speaker 1: who champion your calls. And that's where I took away

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Speaker 1: from your book. You're about creating people when they walk

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Speaker 1: to work, when they come to work, they're thinking about

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna do to make their day, their employer better,

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Speaker 1: to make the environment better. And that's the philosophy I

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Speaker 1: took away from your book. You encouraging genuine enthusiasm for

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Speaker 1: I want the people to understand that when I read

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Speaker 1: the book, you know, I want to definitely bring out

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Speaker 1: the young man that wrote the book with you. He's

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Speaker 1: a millennial. Mr stop, Mr Stop. So why did you

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Speaker 1: choose him? So? Jared was a publisher, um, and so

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Speaker 1: we were in the process of negotiating the book contract

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Speaker 1: so that's really kind of how it started. But then

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Speaker 1: we realized along the way, like he's a millennial and

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Speaker 1: through the content and you know, I'm I'm actually hiring

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Speaker 1: But we're just on the on the beginning of that.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's just a great mix for him

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Speaker 1: to actually add value into the book. So you took

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Speaker 1: some away from him, and he took some away from you.

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Speaker 1: And the middle ground and the number one goal was

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Speaker 1: A group out there that says that's misunderstood. I have

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Speaker 1: You know, when I was growing up, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: people thought I was misunderstood. I was too aggressive. But

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Speaker 1: each generation has their own. But you have to admit

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Speaker 1: that you can only be successful if you change. And

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Speaker 1: that's what this book is about. Leadership has to see

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Speaker 1: there's necessary change for different people that you're working with,

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Speaker 1: and though where you shape the opportunity individually, not as

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Speaker 1: a group, correct sir, absolutely, So breaking it down. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, this's this idea of embracing turnover, acknowledging that

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Speaker 1: some people will will stay with me longer, and but

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Speaker 1: just acknowledging that and accepting that um taking risks. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're actually sticking your neck out there and saying, I

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Speaker 1: but I think that because of the fact that you've

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Speaker 1: He is a host of a show that she said

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Speaker 1: I inspired her to do a weekly tax tip twosday,

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Speaker 1: Asked Foods. That's f o S Please work with the

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Speaker 1: money making conferences Asians Laura Foods, Good morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How's the family? How's mom doing? I

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Speaker 1: you for keeping her in your prayers. She's doing very well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, Now that the young one who's going

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Speaker 1: going to college. Are there any tax opportunities that one

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Speaker 1: could take advantage of when you have a child going

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Speaker 1: to college? Yes, so there are tax advantages even when

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Speaker 1: your babies are younger. There are a lot of saving

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Speaker 1: college savings plans that you can write off on your

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Speaker 1: taxes every year for when you are saving for them

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Speaker 1: to actually go to college. So that's the first thing

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Speaker 1: that can saying. There are three different educational credits that

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Speaker 1: you can claim on your taxes once your children are

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Speaker 1: in college, and they normally send you a ten which

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Speaker 1: will tell you the numbers that you can claim on

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Speaker 1: your taxes. So education, yes, does give you right off

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Speaker 1: on your taxes. Now, that's important for people to understand that.

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Speaker 1: My daughter, she's in college now, and I get that

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Speaker 1: Always always remember that, always look for an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: write something off. Now, now, now you know people are

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Speaker 1: are being organized. Receipts Okay, you have you have these

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Speaker 1: if you use your credit card for your business, is

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Speaker 1: it still important to keep the receipts? Yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: well I think I really started it, okay, because you

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Speaker 1: kept going after me that we have to tell people

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Speaker 1: and educate people. And I have been enjoying this show.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately taxes is you know, people are so afraid

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Speaker 1: So I really started it because I have the knowledge

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Speaker 1: then then that helps my business grow because then people

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Speaker 1: me ask to help me with my taxes. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: making conversations, Erica Ash, thank you so much. Well, I

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Speaker 1: And it's just so much as you have to deal in.

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Speaker 1: But no, it's no problem when you say that because

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Speaker 1: was very conservative, and um, you know, I'm a double

852
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: p k to to pre prepare what I said, watch

853
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: what I did. And you know, I was always told,

854
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: like the world was watching you, you better be careful.

855
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: And you know, m Chuck is just he was a

856
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: different energy. She was so fresh and free and like

857
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: she would say things and then she think about it,

858
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, I like this, and

859
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: so I would I would embody that fully when I

860
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: played her, and sometimes when I didn't, you know, she

861
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: freed she freed me up a little bit. It's just

862
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of be a bit more, you know, Mouthie. And

863
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: and you know, well, you know when you went to

864
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: when you went to that graveyard, you know, when your

865
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: graveyard say, you know that was the That was a

866
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: moment for me, you know, oh, thank you, thank you.

867
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: That was that was a moment for me too. It

868
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: was out there, it was cold. I was like, wait,

869
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: you really want me to actually like pull my pants

870
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: down and go to the bathroom my ear. Let me

871
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: tell you something. We're gonna do it together as a group.

872
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: So when y'all say take another, take another, take, y'all

873
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: realized I love you did that. I love you did that.

874
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: I love you. That's a ch everybody pulling their pants

875
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: down today. That's m Chuck moved. That's that's I love that.

876
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the fact that you know, we want,

877
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, we will talk about your experience and working

878
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: with Kevin Hart, you know, basically an improvisational show, and

879
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we want to go back a

880
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: little bit because Matt TV was your I want to

881
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: see your entry into television and your first big break.

882
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Could I say that Matt TV? Yeah? Yeah, okay, Now

883
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: so you Matt TV. You know scripted, he was a writer.

884
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: Uh did you go to Now you have this amazing

885
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: opportunity with Kevin Hart on a basically show where improv

886
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: plays a lot. Were there any fears or you just say, hey,

887
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm going forward. What were your thoughts? Because I mean comedy,

888
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: comedy is my default as a person like Erica, Like

889
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, I love making jokes and being funny and

890
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm very quick with it. I am. I'm

891
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: always you know, clapping back and popping off when they

892
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: get with somebody like Kevin. That's just like, let's go

893
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: play in the sandbox, you know, so we we. It

894
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: was a fully scripted show. It was not meant to

895
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: be improv but you know, you get all those funny

896
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: guys together, That's what I'm saying. You know, Erica, it's

897
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: not going to not happen. There you go, there you go.

898
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: And then you had to be ready going that line

899
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: what you were supposed to say. You couldn't just look

900
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: at it like that. You a script. No, you have

901
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: to roll with it. And that's why I enjoyed competitive. Yeah,

902
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: and I'm competitive. I'm not gonna let y'all. I'm not

903
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna let y'alla flap flap, flap flap. And I don't back,

904
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was like cool, Yeah,

905
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: Iron Sharper's Iron And that was the best best comedy

906
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: chopcast ever. Now let's talk about the new show in Contempt.

907
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: That's gonna take us into the next break. But I

908
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: just want to set a stage for how great you

909
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: are as a comedian, the greats that you work with,

910
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: your dariness and it comes is. I don't have to

911
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: ask this question. Is in Contempt? Is that a drama?

912
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: T or drama? You know, we have we have yet

913
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: to officially categorize it, but I've heard I've heard draw

914
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I've heard drama the most. And that's just

915
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: because people, Um, you know, I can't do anything and

916
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: not bring some time to it. So if it's if

917
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: it's if it's something super serious, there has to be

918
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: moments of levity because you know, I'm I just don't

919
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: believe that life is that. I don't believe that life

920
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: is all serious and you know, heavy and sad, and

921
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: you know, we got to work, We got you know

922
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, We have to really we have to

923
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: find those moments of levity in order to keep our sanity.

924
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: And I'm happy to be the one to bring it.

925
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about it, because I know they're

926
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: not writing there's a drama that's That's why they asked

927
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: you that, because I know you know when you when

928
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: when when it was pitched, you know it was pitched

929
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: as a drama. But you just so naturally and your

930
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: co stars are just aligning themselves right with your with

931
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: your actions, which is really really dude, which really really entertaining.

932
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: So before we leave for this break, quickly tell every

933
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: about exactly what INCA tip is. Well in attempt is

934
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: a one hour law procedure. It's the first of its

935
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: kind on b ET. So I'm glad that they're you know,

936
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: they're taking such huge risks, um, but it's from the

937
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: perspective of the public defender, whereas most that you will see,

938
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: like Law and Order, from the perspective of the district attorney.

939
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: So my character, Gwen Sullivan is you know, very headstrong,

940
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: very very determined and passionate public defender who is willing

941
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: to do anything to get her clients fair shake. Let's

942
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: break down some of your character so that are rarely

943
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: rather emotionally charged. Sing you have with your father in

944
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: the restaurant, played by the amazing Richard Lawson. You have

945
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: a relationship really made me and Beyonce sisters absolutely which

946
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: is awesome. You know, just uh Coachella was she headlined,

947
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: first black woman ever to headline Coachella. So she's amazing.

948
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: You know. The great things about you is that in

949
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: this in this show, like I said, the one hour

950
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: drama is on BT in contempt, it's a drama, but

951
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: your natural look seems to be the pool comedy moments.

952
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: Tell tell us about the characters on the show and

953
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: what excites you about the series. Well, the thing that

954
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm most excited about is it's something that you haven't

955
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: seen before. And you know, we've got a great, great task.

956
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Richard Lawson that you just mentioned plays my father.

957
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Um we have Christine Keith making Hutchins moving to Treyo

958
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: a Ronnie Road Jr. Um And everyone is really really

959
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: committed to making sure this story gets told authentically. Um Our.

960
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: So Runner was a public defender in New York for

961
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: a number of years and so she lends that to

962
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: the script. When I read the script, it was a

963
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: total page turner. So that's the first thing that attracted me.

964
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that our characters are real

965
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: and they're relatable. You know, they do this awesome job,

966
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: but they have the same issues that everybody else has

967
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: and in their jobs and in their lives, you know,

968
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: like when has a shopping addiction. She's also addicted to

969
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: flame bolts, and she's a gee. She's got two lovers

970
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: like you know, you know what I mean, like notice

971
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: and something I would love to adopt from Gwen because

972
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: my game is like blatlining um. And then you've got

973
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, she likes the box and they have their

974
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: inner office situation. Your office is in the closet. Your

975
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: office is in the closet. That's where you're operating out of.

976
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Well actually technically my office is not in the closet,

977
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: but which you'll you'll probably see UM episodes, but that's

978
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: kind of my that's my war room. Okay, cool, good Now.

979
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: One character I do like it. I don't know her

980
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: name was the young lady who was at this large

981
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: firm and now she's coming over here. I really liked

982
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: her character. Really is she is, She's she's going to

983
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: be a serious regular that that character. Yes, love her

984
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: character because because it's a it's a very honest character

985
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: where she has chosen to come into a field that

986
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same h tools that can help you win,

987
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: and so you write basically like basically, uh, put in

988
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: the position just to get to the next case or

989
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: to get these people in the position to be able

990
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: to sustain some type of life and uh and and

991
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: win with And I feel that that's the that's the

992
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing that came out of the public defenders, that

993
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: these people are walking into situations where they cannot win,

994
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: right or it's like walking into a battle royale with

995
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: like one hand tied behind your back. It's like go.

996
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's not it's not a great situation.

997
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: And it makes you realize how underappreciated public defenders are.

998
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: I think next to teachers, they're one of the most

999
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: underappreciated in the country. You know, career choices and um,

1000
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's important that we support them because

1001
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: they don't get their under resource. They're understaffed, they're underfunded,

1002
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: and even information wise, they're not even required by law

1003
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: to get the information. At the same time as the

1004
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: district attorneys. You know, the police work with the district attorneys,

1005
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: and so I viously it behooves them to give the

1006
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: district attorney as much of a leg up as possible

1007
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: so they can justify it when a crooked cop makes

1008
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: a bad arrest or someone makes a bad idea, and

1009
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, because which was in the pilot episode was

1010
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: a bad idea about that young man who when you

1011
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: walk to him, you said, plead out, plead out, and

1012
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: he refused to plead out. And yeah, you know, the

1013
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: thing about it that I like about the show is that,

1014
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, it has lawyers as the lawyers for you

1015
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: as a woman, and has lawyers for you emotionally dealing

1016
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: with cases that you're passionate about. In a case, in

1017
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: that situation, you're about to walk away and just say

1018
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: plead out, and you look at this young man, Okay, look,

1019
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: let's go forward. Let's go forward. And yeah, and a

1020
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of times that's what happens because they're they're they're

1021
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: so backlogged in the court system, you know. Um. These

1022
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: new laws to try to expedite things even more just

1023
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: restracate me to no end, because I'm like, the court

1024
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: systems already backloged. That's the reason why the jail cells

1025
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: are so full. People can't afford these elf you know, um,

1026
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: And so they you know, they have to await their

1027
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: trials there for you know, days, weeks, years, even police brother,

1028
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then they end up

1029
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: serving time, doing time for the crimes they haven't even

1030
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: been convicted of you when you do a show like this,

1031
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: you do a show like this in contempt, you know,

1032
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: because I felt that the character you play, M Chuck,

1033
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: what's an emotionally charged character? And I feel that the

1034
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: character you played on this show is an emotionally charged character.

1035
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: And what is your biggest walk away when you when

1036
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: you when you accept the role or are you are

1037
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: your audition for a role? What are you trying to

1038
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: accomplish on the screen or film? Right? Well, first of all,

1039
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: I want my characters to have some sort of growth,

1040
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: some sort of um um evolution, right, And if I

1041
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: can see them going there, it doesn't have to be

1042
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: fully you know, in the first season or the first

1043
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, a few episodes, but I need to know

1044
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: that they're on the path to something like us being

1045
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: better somehow, because I like to use every character in

1046
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: some way to motivate someone. Right. I love to speak

1047
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: to people. I love to speak to young girls. I

1048
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: love to speak to young men um and and and

1049
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: talk about you know, their life and their choices. And

1050
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: so when I have a character that I can kind

1051
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: of use to support that and back that up. That's

1052
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, I find that that's a win. That's a

1053
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: win for everybody. They're entertained, but they're learning something. You know,

1054
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: It's something that I can be proud of. When I

1055
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: have kids one day, I can you know, I'll have

1056
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: a body of work that I'll be able to share

1057
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: with them and not be like, but don't look at

1058
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: this because mommy was in a bad space. What you did?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Let's talk about the situation that.

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Speaker 1: What I want to talk about is this next upcoming movie,

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Speaker 1: this coming out this summer, that's right in your comedy lane.

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Speaker 1: That's writ in your comedy lane. You know, I can't

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Speaker 1: throw it all away now, I got to I got

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Speaker 1: to keep some of it. I got to keep that comedy,

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Speaker 1: that comedy leg going. Now. I got my boy a

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Speaker 1: little real in it. That's one of the stars from

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Speaker 1: get Out. If you don't know who Wheels, he played

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Speaker 1: the security the t S a agent and get Out,

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Speaker 1: very funny young man. Who's really who's rising? Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about your character before we get out

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Speaker 1: of here. And also, everybody in contempt it's on b ET.

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Speaker 1: She's starting it and I'm talking to Erica ashe So

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Speaker 1: Uncle Drew is a story of uh little rel who

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Speaker 1: wants to uh be at the Rutger You know. He

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Speaker 1: Rutger Park because he just knows he can win. Um,

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of time. He hears about

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Speaker 1: So you know, we road trip and travel around to

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Speaker 1: try to get the whole team together. Yeah, Erica, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I hope it was amazing. It was amazing interview for me.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. I'm a fan. You can see are BT

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Speaker 1: in contempt the Star Erica Ash, We'll be back with war.

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