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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode three hundred. Who knew this was a

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Speaker 1: milestone episode? We made it, Dan, Chris Lane is coming up.

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Speaker 1: A good long interview with Chris. Huh yeah, an hour

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Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. Chris Lane on never thinking he'd

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Speaker 1: get married to have kids and now he's both. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also he talks about Garth brookshaw m card trick and

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Speaker 1: going from playing baseball at a high level to landing

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Speaker 1: a record deal which you never thought he was going

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Speaker 1: to actually get or even try to get. Pretty crazy

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Speaker 1: story I learned some about about Chris. So that's coming

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Speaker 1: up in a little bit. But as always, let's check

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Speaker 1: out the top five songs that I'm like, Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: really cool. Number five, Brett Young has a new album.

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Speaker 1: It's called Weekends Look a Little Different these Days. Here

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Speaker 1: is a new song called not Yet Good. At number four,

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Speaker 1: I really like this. This is the Lantis Moore set.

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Speaker 1: She released a cover of on the Road Again with

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Speaker 1: Willie Nelson On the Road Here look a the chipsues

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Speaker 1: we Go. I really feel on that one. That's a

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Speaker 1: good one. Good Yeah. At number three, Tyler Farr has

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Speaker 1: a new song. It is called cover Girl Hate Cool,

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't have to Cool? Make up path, don't heal it?

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Speaker 1: So damn tired of see lee. Number two is Ashley Cook.

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Speaker 1: She has a new song called under Yell. That song

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Speaker 1: good up the fives tole me there underneath it She's

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Speaker 1: someone to swell under the run everything under this song,

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Speaker 1: so I don't understand anywhack. It's a good one from

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Speaker 1: Ashley Cook. Check her out. And number one my favorite artist,

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Speaker 1: John Mayer has a new song called Last Train Home

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Speaker 1: Before we play it here. He announced on Tuesday we

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Speaker 1: were releasing his eight studio album titled Sawbrock on July,

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Speaker 1: and marks his first studio album since Search for Everything.

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Speaker 1: But here is a clip of Last Train Home. You

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Speaker 1: gotta wrong if you want to use you gotta very

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Speaker 1: eighties sound? Yeah? Do you like that sound? I mean

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Speaker 1: it takes me back to like his second record Well

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Speaker 1: Inside one Um. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Overall, are you feeling his new sounds?

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Speaker 1: Is a big fan? I don't know, And you spend

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Speaker 1: more time with I don't know. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say yes because I don't want to say Here's why,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to say yes just because it's

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Speaker 1: John Mayer. But I don't want to say no because

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Speaker 1: I haven't exist John Mayer. I didn't. I just need

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Speaker 1: to invest a little more. It's like when Ben Folds

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Speaker 1: put something out and it's a little quirky. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, do I love it or do I

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Speaker 1: hate it? I really need to spend time with it.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel it's still in the same vein of

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Speaker 1: his last album though? No, no, no, he's He always

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Speaker 1: puts a little little dinkerdlinks and changing it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I mean even from Paradise Valley too. I

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Speaker 1: mean he did basically a country record at one point,

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Speaker 1: nobody called it country because this is years ago. But

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Speaker 1: so we'll see. So he's still not an automatic No

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Speaker 1: matter what he puts out, you're gonna automatically love for you.

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Speaker 1: If there's anyone, it's him. But I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say yes because I don't want to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: But yes, yes, but I don't want to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: So but yes, I will well, but I'm sure um

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Speaker 1: albums out today. Walker Hayes has country stuff, let's see,

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Speaker 1: Billy Gibbons has hardware, Liz Fair has sober ish, Rise

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Speaker 1: Against has nowhere generation. I think that's it. B J

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Speaker 1: Thomas died at seventy eight years old. He is most

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Speaker 1: known for rain drops keep Falling on My Head Monday

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Speaker 1: and just like guys up to speaking of Ben Faldsman

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Speaker 1: folded a great cover of this song. Bj BJ Thomas

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Speaker 1: passed away. Dylan Scott's Nobody hits number one, so congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Loves a good song. Keith Urban has announced some new

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Speaker 1: Vegas dates. He will pick up as Las Vegas Residents

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Speaker 1: Colosseum Las Vegas Residency at the Colosseum at Caesar's Palace

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Speaker 1: in September. They're all September twenty five. Tickets on sale

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Speaker 1: June seventh, So today the fourth son Fit's Monday. Monday? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Monday the seventh. You may be listening this on Monday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. And finally, a Florida concert promoter

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Speaker 1: is using tickets to encourage COVID nineteen vaccinations. A concert

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Speaker 1: promoter in Tampa is offering a massive discount to vaccinated people.

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Speaker 1: You got ticket to see Teenage Bottle Rocket for eight

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Speaker 1: there you go. Keith been hitting me up about my

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Speaker 1: TV show. Really what you're saving up today? He's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I watched both episodes are great, and then he hits

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Speaker 1: me up like eight hours later, how many does you shoot? Like?

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Speaker 1: He's genuinely interested. It's a good guy. He We're very

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Speaker 1: sporadic in our friendship, meaning we'll talk a lot for

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, um, But there you go. I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna like this Chris Lane interview. I liked doing it.

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Speaker 1: Here is the rest of the podcast here with Chris Lane.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I guess we've when's the

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Speaker 1: last time we did anything together? Was it my old condo? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like in downtown yeah, I remember that day. That's a

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Speaker 1: long time ago. What was it like a bathroom something,

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Speaker 1: grown up. I've matured so much since that. I was

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Speaker 1: I was watching either your Instagram or um Lauren's Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And we have two dogs and are right now like

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Speaker 1: we have roofers that are working on in the house

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Speaker 1: and so they're boom boom boom, and the dogs are

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Speaker 1: freaking out all the time. So we have Stanley, who's

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Speaker 1: in time. So we're back. We're kind of back, but

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Speaker 1: we're having to move dogs back and forth. And I

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Speaker 1: was watching your Instagram. There's some place that drives up

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Speaker 1: Lauren and I used to live at twelve twelve there

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Speaker 1: in and he would pick him up, take him down

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Speaker 1: We usually do it once or twice a week, but

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Speaker 1: almost honked the horn or did something and they were like,

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Speaker 1: of that van. Yeah, yeah, I watched that three times.

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Speaker 1: doing some sort of flee and take some sort of

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Speaker 1: Day that's uh coming up in just a few days.

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Speaker 1: We work with Perina a lot. Okay, yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: certain things. I've I've learned what works from me and

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Speaker 1: you know, at some point I want to be able

426
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: to to settle down with somebody, started family, all that

427
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I know he was doing the

428
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: best that he I mean, that was more than he

429
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: could should have been able to offer us because it

430
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was making a ton of money. Um.

431
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: So we just jumped into that working. And then at

432
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: the same time I had started learning how to play

433
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: the guitar and figuring out how to play and sing

434
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: at the same time. And then fast forward, to make

435
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: a long story short, fast forward all these years later,

436
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm in shocked that all of this has happened for me. Um.

437
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I worked really hard at it, but

438
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: it was not something that I thought of in the beginning,

439
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're from a small town, you

440
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: don't think or at least I never thought of, oh,

441
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: one day, I want to have a record deal and

442
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: and a song on the radio is not I didn't

443
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: even think of that because I didn't think that was possible.

444
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know who to go to or I'd

445
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: really never been to Nashville. Uh, none of that stuff.

446
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: So when I recorded this song, uh the summer job

447
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: I had, I wanted to pay tribute to um, which

448
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: was landscaping for my dad's business. So I kind of

449
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: brought that back with the whole uh summer job money.

450
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's a real feeling something that you

451
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: know when you have a girlfriend in high school or

452
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: when you're seventeen or whatever it may be. UM, A

453
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: lot of those lines in the song, like you spend

454
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: all your money on gas for the tank and and

455
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: beer for a high school party or or at the

456
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: concession stand, which was the line that kind of stood

457
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: out to me that I loved the most. UM. So yeah,

458
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: I kind of brought it back with the landscaping. You

459
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: talk about learning how to play guitar. It was after

460
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: college that you picked up a guitar. So why would

461
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: why would you, like, like, what what would inspire you

462
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: to grab a guitar you've never played to start at

463
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: years old? That's a great question. Um, I actually started.

464
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: So I finished college in four and a half years.

465
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: I had to go back for a half semester um

466
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: after uh, after baseball just because of your hours in

467
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: in the amount of time that you can you know,

468
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: you're always gone when it comes to traveling for base

469
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I just needed the extra

470
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: semester to graduate. So during all my downtime, I had

471
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: asked my parents, uh the prior Christmas before for a guitar,

472
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: and they bought me this nine and one dollar Fender guitar.

473
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: And leading up to that, I would just any extra

474
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: time I had, I would sit there on the edge

475
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: edge of my bed in Charlotte, North Carolina, where I

476
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: went to school at UM, and I was learning how

477
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: to play. And then that last semester I started getting

478
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: a lot better and learning some of my favorite songs.

479
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I was inspired. I've been to a lot

480
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: of Keither in concerts, Kenny Chesney. Um did it come

481
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: to you easy? Though? Because it didn't know? Okay? When

482
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: I because around, I mean that was probably twenty one,

483
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I gotta learn guitar, like to

484
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: do comedy shows. Hey Canny it was. I bought a

485
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: quart you to Walmart. It was horrible, So I was,

486
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I it's hard, but you have such hand

487
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: eye coordination as you were so close to being a

488
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: professional athlete. I wonder was it easier for you because

489
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you do control your body a little better. Honestly, I

490
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like for other people, but I

491
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean, the excuse I found myself

492
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: making a lot was my hands are too small. I

493
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: can't but they won't been the right way to to

494
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: do these cores. And now that I really know how

495
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: to play, like, how could I not do this before?

496
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: But it really is just muscle memory. For anybody out

497
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: there wanting to learn how to play the guitar like

498
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: you can, you just have to actually sit down and

499
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: practice it. I mean, as you know. I mean could

500
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: you sing though, because all this you're doing a lot

501
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: of this at one time? Yeah? So I always loved

502
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: singing along to my favorite songs. But did I think

503
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: to myself, I can sing no? Um? But uh, when

504
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: we would go on trips or baseball and we'd be

505
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: on the bus and stuff like that. Uh. I remember

506
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: in college when we'd be on trips, uh singing to

507
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: a few different songs like acapella. My brother and I

508
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: would do this on the bus, and all the guys

509
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: always asked us to do this, so I thought to myself,

510
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm better than I think that I am. Um. So, yeah,

511
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: year years into playing the guitar, I would I figured

512
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: out how to play and sing at the same time.

513
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean I would play every Eric Church song, Al Deane,

514
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: Luke Bryan, I mean Chesney Keith urban song that I loved.

515
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: And I know I drove my roommates crazy in college

516
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: because I was always playing the guitar and always singing.

517
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: But I eventually got to where I'd go out into

518
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: the garage and uh, I would practice all day long

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: when I'd get out of class, like it was just

520
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: something I became very passionate about. And then they had

521
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: this open mic night at this place called Boardwalk Billy's,

522
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: which I have no clue that still there in Charlotte

523
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: where I went to school. Um, and they did open

524
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: mic night. Did you take him on with you? You go?

525
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: It would beat me just on my acoustic. I knew

526
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: how to play a handful of any friends, I'm saying,

527
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: did you have any friends in the crowd to kind

528
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: of hype Yeah? So, uh so I was. I was.

529
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: I will say this. I think her name is Megan.

530
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: Uh she was in a sorority and she loved country

531
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: music and she had a great voice as well. Um,

532
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: and they would give me about a handful of songs.

533
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: So I would play three, whether it be an Eric

534
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: Church song or Aldean or Luke Bryant, whatever it may be, UM,

535
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: songs that I knew the crowd would sing along to.

536
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: I'd get her up there to sing a couple of

537
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: songs as well. And by doing that, all of her

538
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: sorority sisters would come out to this bar and hang out.

539
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: And uh, it was always packed every Wednesday night. And Uh,

540
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I would get up there and do my thing, and

541
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: when I would finish, people would always be like, oh, dude,

542
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: you're great. I was the only guy up there who

543
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: would ever play country music. And I think people really

544
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: loved that a lot. Um, and I kind of got

545
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: lucky in that sense. But what was the first time

546
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: you did that? Though? Because we jumped a little bit here,

547
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: I'll make sure like you're playing in the garage, practicing

548
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: on the bed, But what what was the first time

549
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: We're like, man, I gotta go do this in front

550
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: of somebody. I don't know what clicked, but there was

551
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: a guy on my baseball team, Um, I had heard

552
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: the guy say, oh, he went up there and played,

553
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: uh this open mic night. And I thought to myself, well,

554
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: if he can do it, I can do it. And

555
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I was nervous as all get out, but I actually

556
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: went up there one night and and uh and did

557
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: it and loved. I think I started to crave that

558
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: affirmation that I was getting from people that always be

559
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: like when I finished, they'd always be like, man, you're

560
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: so good, Like I love I love what you do,

561
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm so glad you played country music because nobody

562
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: up here does. Um. And I love that attention that

563
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: it gave me early on, and it caused me to

564
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: go back every Wednesday night, just just in that last semester.

565
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: So we're talking September, October, November, and I graduated in December.

566
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: And uh, when I moved back to Kernelsville, we didn't

567
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: have anything like that. There was no open mic nights anywhere,

568
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, small town. UM. So my brother twin brother

569
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know, but I have a

570
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: identify up to him, was like, as oh, man, you

571
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: got amy. Everybody does that. Uh yes. So he when

572
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: we moved back home after college, we were living there

573
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: at my parents house and uh, upstairs, we went and

574
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: bought this drum kid because he was like, oh, I

575
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: learned how to play the drums and I'll play with

576
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: you while you play guitar. And what age was this

577
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: for him? I mean, what are you twenty one or

578
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: twenty two and you graduate something something somewhere in that

579
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: drums at twenty two as well? Yeah, yeah, not long

580
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: after I started the guitar and we would just sit

581
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: upstairs at my parents house and uh play all the

582
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: songs that we loved, and he would figure it out,

583
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: just like I was kind of figuring that out along

584
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: the way. And for whatever reason, I said, you know what,

585
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: I want to start a cover band. We'll play all

586
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: of our favorite songs. Um, but you can play drums.

587
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll find a guitar player somewhere. UM. Never happened for

588
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: a while, so it would just be me and him.

589
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: But the first show that I ever had at this

590
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: place called J. J. He Looney's in high Point, North Carolina,

591
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: I went to book my own show. I just wanted

592
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: to get a show playing in front of people for

593
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: an hour, you know what I mean? I knew ten

594
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: songs maybe and I go in I asked the guy, Uh, hey,

595
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I want to play a show in here. I feel

596
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: like I can pack this place out. I was saying

597
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: whatever I felt like I needed to say, um, and

598
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, all right, I'll give you an opportunity.

599
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: I've seen some of my friends play in this place.

600
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: And he just said, the only thing is like, you

601
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: have to play a four hour set and you have

602
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: to have a full band. We don't do acoustic shows.

603
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I lied and said, yeah, yeah, no problem.

604
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: So what I did leading into that night, it was

605
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: I hired two buddies, two friends of mine that did

606
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: not know how to play an instrument, to come on

607
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: stage and act like they were playing for the show

608
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: because I didn't want it to get canceled. Uh. Long

609
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: story short, Uh, it was really bad. Was terrible. My

610
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: brother was terrible. Uh. We played the same ten songs

611
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: like three or four times over. Um. But because so

612
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: many people showed up, I kept getting opportunity after opportunity

613
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: to step in and play shows. And just like anything,

614
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: the more you do something, the better get at it.

615
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: And um yeah. That ultimately gave me a start, and

616
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: then years in I started trying to write my own

617
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: music for the first time, because I realized, Hey, if

618
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I ever wanted to do anything with this, that's what

619
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I need to do. Um, the songs weren't great, and

620
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: somehow people showed up to the shows and they would

621
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: sing it. And then a lot of the bigger clubs

622
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: that all the national acts from Nashville drive down and play.

623
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: I could sell out on my own. So I built

624
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: up this following there in the southeast of you know, Florida, Georgia,

625
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: and in North Carolina. And fast forward years later, that's

626
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: what ended up getting me a record deal here in Nashville.

627
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: When did you decide, all right, I'm gonna not now

628
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: to go try Nashville where the giants are. I mean,

629
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: I never thought that. I just I thought in the

630
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: moment when people would fly out and watch me play.

631
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I remember I would go home after the shows and

632
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: talk to my parents about it because I would be like,

633
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. I've never

634
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: even thought about getting a record deal or any of

635
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: that stuff. And now people are really starting to fly

636
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: out to watch me play all these shows. And I

637
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: think what happened was, uh, a lot of the booking

638
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: agents were talking in town saying like, who is this

639
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: guy in North Carolina who's selling out all these shows

640
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: on his own and booking them on his own and

641
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: he's not signed to a record label. Um, And I

642
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: think that's what ultimately got me a record do. And

643
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: your brother was like, if you go, I want to go. Yeah. Yeah.

644
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: So my brother had a child at the time, he

645
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: just had a child, Um, callaway and I was moving

646
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: to Nashville, and he's like, well, I started this thing

647
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: with you, like I wanna keep playing drums for you.

648
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: And I think we thought, like a lot of artists think,

649
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: like if you're not in town, um, you don't really

650
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: know what to expect. I thought to myself, I mean,

651
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm about to move to Nashville. I could potentially have

652
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: a record deal, Like you're instantly famous, you're instantly rich,

653
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: like all this kind of stuff, and uh, for for

654
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: family's sake, for his sake, you know, I think he

655
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be along for the ride of that. And

656
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: we learned the hard way that it takes a lot

657
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: of time, a lot of time out on the road

658
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: playing nobody, exhaustion, traveling through the night every night, driving

659
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: yourself around, um everywhere. But it makes it all worth

660
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: it in the end, uh, you know, when you get

661
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: to this point, and hopefully I continue to grow from here.

662
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: But I was giving opportunities to go out on tour

663
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: with uh Florida Georgia Line and and Rascal Flats and

664
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: all these people that I grew up going to their

665
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: concerts brat Paisley UM. And it was honestly an unbelievable

666
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: experience and one that I'm still kind of, you know,

667
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: getting used to now roll through a few number ones

668
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: here here is fixed from the first number one, right yeah,

669
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: and so that hits in now it was until he

670
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: had another number one, which is I don't know about you,

671
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: right one. If my chronological order is wrong, stop me,

672
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: but I think I think I have it here. So

673
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: in between eighteen though, like you have a hit? Are

674
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: you just banging your head against the wall, like I got,

675
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: what's what? What's been three years? Yeah? Yeah? So so

676
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: basically what happened was this, Um, A lot of people

677
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: don't even I haven't really said this a whole lot,

678
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: but uh, when I first moved to town, UM, I

679
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: started working with Joey Moy, who is an incredible producer.

680
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: You know, he produces Morgan Wallen j Cowen Uh did

681
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: all the old nickelback stuff as well. UM. I got

682
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: into the studio with him early on. And and because

683
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I had never been in the studio before, especially with

684
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: the producer like that, UM, I didn't really know what

685
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: to expect, and I don't I was not prepared for that. UM.

686
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: So I had a lot of learning that I had

687
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: to do. I had to start taking vocal lesson. I

688
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: never had a vocal lesson in my entire life. I

689
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: started taking vocal lessons UM. And my sound was much

690
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: different when I first moved to town than Fix and

691
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: for Her, which from my first two singles. UM. But

692
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: what happened was I was going down a different trail

693
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: like music that I really loved a lot um that

694
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: had more rocking guitar, all that kind of stuff, and

695
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I felt like that was my bread and butter. But UH,

696
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: when I got Fixed came along Uh. This was a

697
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: song that I was friends with Jesse Fraser Sarah Buxton

698
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: who was signed a Big Loud at the time as well. UM.

699
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: They had this song that they pitched me, which was

700
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Fixed at the time, and it was so different than

701
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: anything that I had ever done. I thought to myself,

702
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm a young artist. I'm not gonna it's hard to

703
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: stand out when you first get here because there's so

704
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: many incredibly talented artists. Um, maybe this song will help

705
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: me stand out in a different way because it had

706
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: the whole falset. It's not the first time anybody's done

707
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: that in country music. But at the end of the day,

708
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: it had it all over it, you know what I mean. Um,

709
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: And it was the first song in the studio that

710
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: my producer had ever turned around and said, what was that? Like?

711
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: Why don't you do that every time you get into

712
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: the vocal booth. For whatever reason, I took really well

713
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: to that song and sang it well, and I think

714
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: I caught him off guard. So I finished recording that song,

715
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: we put it out. They decide in the moment um

716
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: that they wanted to start a record label, which is

717
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: now Big Loud. You know it's me Morgan Wallin, Hardy J. Cowen, Um,

718
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: And I was gonna be the first artist on the

719
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: record label. And they asked me, they said, hey, do

720
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you want to go sign to a major record label

721
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: or do you want to be the first artist on

722
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: our record label? And I thought about this. I'm like,

723
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: there's ten artists on these major record labels. Uh, maybe

724
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: this gets me a lot of attention and focus right

725
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: out of the gate, which ended up being that way. Um,

726
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I record the song, we decided to put it out

727
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: as a single. I go on a twenty one week

728
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: radio tour. I found out the hard way from singing

729
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: fixing for her and a lot of these songs early

730
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: in the morning was really hard for me to do. Yeah. Yeah,

731
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: it's just super high and uh I got on radio

732
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: tour and had to wake up at three am just

733
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: to start warming my vocal up uh every day, which

734
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: was a really I mean, that was one of the

735
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: toughest times in my life. Um it's rewarding now, but

736
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's really hard. But uh yeah,

737
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: right out the gate, Uh, brand new record label, first

738
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: artist on the record label, I get my first number one.

739
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: We all kind of know how that goes and how

740
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: it works. Um. Second single, which a lot of artists

741
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: during this time frame I feel like fell into was

742
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: you have that first number one, Um, you you can

743
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: go out and do all these radio shows, all that

744
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, which really helps a lot. Um the

745
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: second a lot of people fell into this that second single. Um,

746
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: it's a little bit harder to work, you know what

747
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean. You're kind of earning the trust of everybody.

748
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: You can come with hits all that kind of stuff. Uh.

749
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: I think it makes it to number six, number five

750
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: something along those lines, which was for her, but still

751
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: that same style with the falsetta when so for her

752
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: comes out top ten, Yeah, it's a it's a grind.

753
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: We get it there, we get a top ten song

754
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: out of it. Um, you still play that live? Yeah? Yeah.

755
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: After for her was Broken Windshield View. No. Broken Windshield

756
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: View was the first song that I ever recorded here

757
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: in Nashville. When I first got it was that every single.

758
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: It was never a single, but because I was out

759
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: on tour Florida Georgia line at the time and Nelly

760
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: on their like Ballpark tour. Um, I needed a song

761
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: other than my back in the day, I called myself

762
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: Chris Lane band, and all I could play were those

763
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: songs or songs that I had written here in Nashville

764
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: but never recorded. So yeah, Broken windsheld View was that

765
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: first song that I put out just to have a

766
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: song for people to to go home and hopefully download

767
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: and remember me by since I was being given that

768
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity being on tour with uh Florida Georgia line.

769
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: But there, oh we got it all. Don't worry, there

770
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: we go everything. That's a throwback, right there? Do you

771
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: have for her? They hit top ten and the song

772
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: you did with Tory Kelly was also a top ten song,

773
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: right yeah? So that was my third single, UM, takee

774
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: back Home Girl. Uh, I'm surprised that did. Honestly, I

775
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: thought that was a really good song that didn't get

776
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: as high as I felt it should happen. Yeah, thank you.

777
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: Why do you think it didn't? Um? Well, from what

778
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: we were being told at the time, if I'm allowed

779
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: to say this, UM, I think because Tory Kelly was

780
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: considered a pop artist at the time. UM, I think

781
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people weren't necessarily down to play it.

782
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: UM So I think there were I think there were,

783
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, ten to fifteen stations that weren't necessarily about it,

784
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: and that made it tough to get it to number one.

785
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: We still got a top ten out of it. I

786
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: think it was number five or something around that. Um.

787
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: But it has been one of I mean, it's double

788
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: platinum song. One of my biggest songs in my career

789
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: and song it's one of those that don't hit number one,

790
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: But that doesn't hit number one, but people still know

791
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: they screaming at the shows at the end of the day.

792
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: That's that's uh truly what matters the most to me.

793
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Um And And it helped me take that next little

794
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: stepping stone in my stepping stone into my career. Well,

795
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: here we go, another number one eighteen I Don't Know

796
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: About You? What's your name sound? And you followed it

797
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: up with another one, big big plans, two in a row.

798
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. So you have to feel now like, okay,

799
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm not one number one and just a struggle like

800
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: you got like you got your feet planned it now right?

801
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: You have to feel that way, Yeah, I mean a

802
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: little bit. Um I feel that way. I think I

803
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: Don't Know About You was such a big song for

804
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: my career and the biggest song uh so far from

805
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: my career that it really helped me take that next

806
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: step in a way that I noticed at the shows

807
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: I was. I went from selling X amount of tickets

808
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: to now selling out every room that I play in.

809
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Um And, I'm super thankful for that song because I

810
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: actually almost didn't even record it, um, and that would

811
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: have been a huge thing and missed for me. But yeah,

812
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: it helped me take that next big step in my career.

813
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: And then Big Big Plans, which was a follow up,

814
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: was a grind but it took a while, but uh,

815
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: it eventually got there and and has been an incredible

816
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: song for my career as well. That's the last time

817
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: I saw you. Another thing about it was you and

818
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: Lauren came in the studio. Yeah, it sure was. Basically

819
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: wasn't that pretty close to when I put that song out?

820
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: I think it was because I remember, I think it

821
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: was right when you put it out. Yeah, and it

822
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: happened in the most organic, never even tried to make

823
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: it happen kind of way, which I think is the best. Um.

824
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: I truly only had that song for her for that moment.

825
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I put like a little video to it, um, and

826
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: I was hoping that people would would like it, But

827
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: I didn't think in a sense of here's my next

828
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: single to country radio kind of thought. You know, it

829
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: was just a just a good moment for us and

830
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: and now seeing people take it and use it for

831
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: their own little moment or for me, the best part about.

832
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: It was watching guys come on to age and propose,

833
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: propose every single night. Uh was a highlight of my

834
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: tour and highlight of my night every single night because

835
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: as you, what was your proposal like in the sense

836
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: of were you incredibly nervous when you went to do it?

837
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: Like like I was, I blacked out. I don't even

838
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: remember what I said. I didn't. I wasn't nervous when

839
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: I did. I was nervous that I couldn't pull it

840
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: off because I had really been working. We have a

841
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: barn we had you did it were away shooting my

842
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: TV show and we had to move people in before

843
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: we landed, and then after we landed, I had to

844
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: keep her busy as a whole of the crew moved

845
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: into So for me, it was I put in all

846
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: this work and I wanted to surprise her. So I

847
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: was nervous that I wasn't going to pull it off.

848
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: But once she got down and she was shocked, I

849
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is money. How would your meet?

850
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Her friend does pr for ABC, And so it was

851
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: oddly an organic way in a really inorganic time. You know,

852
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I dated people I met on apps or whatever, but

853
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: her her friend that does PRC DPR for me at

854
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and an American idol, and so

855
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: she was like, hey, I'm gonna be down because I

856
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: went to when Lauren Elena was on Dancing with the Stars.

857
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: I was going to go support Lawrence. I was in

858
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: town and she was like, Hey, I'm gonna be there

859
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: so i'll see you. Come say hi. So I just

860
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: one said hi, and Caitlyn was with her and she

861
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is my friend Caitlin. We didn't

862
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: we said hello. That was it. We didn't talk for

863
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: like four months after that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so

864
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: it was not It wasn't We didn't even go were

865
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 1: you but in that time frame, were you thinking about

866
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: her all the time where you're like, man, I really

867
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: want to I was just like yes, but we didn't talk.

868
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: We said hello quickly, but did you exchange numbers? Now?

869
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: But honest to god, this is the truth, and I've

870
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: never said this the truth. I thought she was way

871
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: too hot for me and I didn't want to get rejected,

872
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: and so I didn't pursue it at all because I

873
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, she's she lives in laws,

874
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: but a little I know she's from Oklahoma and just

875
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: moved to l A to go to grad school. Like

876
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: she wasn't an l A girl. But I'm like, all right,

877
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: it's an l A girl super hot, you know what.

878
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel like being rejected. So I

879
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: just didn't do. I just didn't. But you're Bobby Bones.

880
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Nobody cares, you know, no one cares. And so I

881
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: finally got the nerve up to uh message her. I

882
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: was like, because I was going back into town a

883
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: few months later. I was going to be a guest

884
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: on some game show called to Tell the Truth, to

885
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: Tell the Truth, and I was like, hey, I'm gonna

886
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: be in town. Hey, no big deal if you can't.

887
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like when you asked someone to do a song,

888
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, I know this may be terrible. You

889
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: say no if you want. And I was like, I'm

890
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be in town for one night to do this show.

891
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: Do you want to uh have a dinner? And she

892
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: was like yeah, sure. And then I was so late

893
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: getting out of the recording. I was like two hours late,

894
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: and I just knew, Oh my gosh, I know, and

895
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry. She I guess okay,

896
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm over to friend's house anyway, if it doesn't work, whatever,

897
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: We're all good. And so we met and then we

898
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: had went to like some chain salad restaurant and I

899
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is different. You just I didn't

900
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: know I was gonna get married immediately, But I was

901
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: like same. I was like, oh this this clicks completely

902
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: different than anything else I've ever had. Was that like

903
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: you and Lauren? Yeah, same, same exact thing. I mean,

904
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how you were before, but I had

905
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: the months that I wasn't getting married. Um, I didn't.

906
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: I think I thought my whole life and and there's

907
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to this, but I didn't necessarily

908
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: want kids and not like that whole thing. Um, I think,

909
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it was way different. Like obviously when we

910
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: first met, it was at an I Heart Radio thing

911
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas, like a festival. Yeah yeah, And Lauren

912
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: was just coming off the show The Bachelor, and she

913
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: was kind of whatever you want to call engaged to.

914
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: Uh did she win? She yeah, she won the show. Um,

915
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: you can tell how much I have no idea. Yeah,

916
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what she the Bachelor? I'm sure, I'm I

917
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: guarantee I probably watched that season. I don't remember because

918
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: it's been so long ago, but um, yeah, I think

919
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: her and her uh the guy she was engaged to

920
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: at the time. We're presenting at this festival. So I

921
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: played earlier during the day on the festival stage, and uh,

922
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: I was with Tom Pullman at night and we walked

923
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: over and said hello. Uh, there's a photo from that

924
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: night as well, where I'm standing beside Lauren and uh.

925
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: I think Tom's in the middle and then Ben's on

926
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: the outside, and it was kind of a foreshadowing photo.

927
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: None of us obviously knew in that moment, but it

928
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: truly looks like Lauren together in Minnesota. Um. But yeah,

929
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: four years go by, four years, four years go by,

930
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: it was that long. Yes, it was that long. Um.

931
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: And she became single and you guys like, how did

932
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you get back in touch with her? I was in

933
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: l A one night, Um, I think recording my second record,

934
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: and I had a few days off. I just played

935
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: a show out towards out towards that way, and we

936
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: had a few days. We were standing over at Sportsman's

937
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Lodge where they allow busses to park there in in

938
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: l A. And uh, she swears to this day that

939
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: she has no idea that I was even in town.

940
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: I think she's lying, but she swears that she had

941
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: no idea I was there. But she faced timmey out

942
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I hadn't talked to her in a long time,

943
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: and uh, she was like, what are you doing. I

944
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm in l A. She was like, no,

945
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: you're not. I was like yeah, She's like, you want

946
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: to meet up? I'm telling you the fast version of

947
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: the story. And Uh, at the time, I thought to myself,

948
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I do, but where are you at?

949
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: And she was all the way out Marina del Rey,

950
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: long ways away. I didn't want to get a uber

951
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: out there. She ended up coming up towards me. We

952
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of met in the middle. Uh, hung out for

953
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: a long time that night, had a great time, and uh.

954
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Months and months later, I was going on a trip

955
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas with a few buddies of mine at

956
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: this place that we love going to, and I randomly

957
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: decided to ask her if she wanted to go. She

958
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: said she'd go if she could bring a friend. We

959
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: really hit it off on that trip. Continuously called her

960
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: when I got home, and then I feel like it

961
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: wasn't that long. Long afterwards, we're hanging out a lot

962
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: more and you were here though still Yeah, yeah, lying

963
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: back and forth, you flying back and forth. Yeah. So

964
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: because I was always out on the road, she tried

965
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: would hear a little bit more than I went to

966
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: l a um. Yeah, And then I said, you know what,

967
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe I should settle down with her. I love her

968
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: a lot, We have so much fun together. And it

969
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: was just like you said, way different than anything else

970
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: I had ever experienced. And when it happened, it happened

971
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: incredibly fast. I mean I feel like a year later

972
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: we were dagon engaged and now we're about to have

973
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: a baby. It's it's nuts and all the things that

974
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: I said that I never wanted, like I can't wait

975
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: for now. And I think it does take that that

976
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: special someone, if you will, to to kind of change

977
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: your thoughts and and and what you truly want I

978
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: do to lie to me. It wasn't that I never

979
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: wanted it. I just I, honest to God, didn't not

980
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: believe it was real. I thought everybody. I thought people

981
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: would were just settling and they would have to make

982
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: up a story to say, oh I just felt it

983
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: or movies and books, and I was I got to

984
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: the point where I was, you know, thirty seven years old,

985
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, I've not felt anything like this

986
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: same and so I really and I said it to

987
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: her and I proposed. I was like, I never believe

988
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: that love was real, Like I just didn't. I thought

989
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: it was something that people just made up to give there.

990
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: But then for the first time, I was like, bru oh,

991
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's weird how

992
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: that happens like that. I mean, I'd watch my twin

993
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: brother go through a tough relationship and I thought to myself,

994
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: good lord, I don't want anything like that. Um, but yeah,

995
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: this is this is it was just way different. I mean,

996
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: like you said, And now she's about to have a baby.

997
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: I heard her pictures on Instagram, like somehow she's able

998
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: to And I don't know about I've never I don't

999
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: have a kid yet, right, we probably have a kid

1000
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: in the next year and a half, two years or something,

1001
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. But she has maintained physically the normal. Lord.

1002
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Then her stomach is like seven ft long. It's awesome,

1003
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: but it's crazy. It's why because I've never seen a

1004
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: neck and pregnant lady. Right. So the only thing I

1005
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: ever see are when people are like, look at my belly,

1006
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: and so I'll see Lauren do that and I'm like, wow,

1007
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: she looks great. She looks the same with a yes.

1008
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right thing is to say,

1009
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: but it's Laura Lauren lawn, big belly, Laura Lauren Lauren.

1010
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: I've said that. It doesn't even make sense to me. Um,

1011
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, she's she's carried on. How I mean, we're

1012
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: we're it could happen any minute. Oh, she's it's it's

1013
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: a go time. Yeah, I think her her dude date

1014
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: is is literally right now. So we're we're approaching either

1015
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna have him on the day or maybe a little

1016
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: bit late. And I know she is ready for him

1017
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: to come out. Now. Are you getting uncomfortable for more

1018
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: nervous or excited? I think I'm more excited for sure. Um,

1019
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: I was super super nervous in the beginning. And I'll

1020
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: say this. One of the main I feel embarrassed even

1021
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: say this, but one of the main reasons that I

1022
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: never wanted to have kids is because I'm a germophobe

1023
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: and I feel like every body that I know that

1024
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: has kids as parents, they're always sick because their kids

1025
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: always sick. And I'm like, definitely afraid of being sick.

1026
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that I hate more

1027
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: than anything. Um So I built it up in my

1028
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: mind all these years, like I don't think I can

1029
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: have kids because they're always sick and I don't want to,

1030
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, take on that. And I hear like, once

1031
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: you have them, all that kind of stuff, you don't

1032
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: even think about it. You just, you know, kind of

1033
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: like with dogs, like whatever they go through, you you

1034
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: help them out, you know what I mean. You don't

1035
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: even think. You just jump in there and do it.

1036
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: It's weird. I wonder if, and you're way closer to

1037
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: this than I have, because you could have a baby

1038
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow tonight. But I wonder if because people tell me

1039
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: the same thing. Man, once you have a kid, it's

1040
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: all different, everything is different. But I used to hear

1041
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: that about love too, and I didn't believe it until

1042
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: it happened. And so I can't personally feel yet how

1043
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be to have a kid, and you

1044
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: really can't either. But for the first time, I do

1045
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: believe they're probably right. Yeah, They're right the right and

1046
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: with uh. I've been trying this whole time. Um, I

1047
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: mean kind of on purpose, but not kind of. Not

1048
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: on purpose. I just wanted to be a nice little

1049
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: letter to him when he can understand music. But I

1050
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: wrote him this song recently that I'm thinking about recording

1051
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: UH call. It ain't even met you yet, and it's

1052
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: about the real feelings that as a father I was

1053
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: going through, uh in the moment, and it truly is

1054
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: the most exciting, uh time in my life. And I

1055
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: know I'm about to come into from what all my

1056
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: buddies tell me the most exhausting time of my life.

1057
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: But uh, I've never been more ready for anything in

1058
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: my entire life. You guys are really funny on Instagram?

1059
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: Did she ever was this you? Guys? Did you ever

1060
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: have a dream about you and then you're in trouble

1061
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: when you wake up? Does that ever happen with you, guys?

1062
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Because that happens with Caitlin all the time. She's not

1063
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: a bad dream. And I'll hear something in the dream

1064
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: and then she'll wake up and I have to like

1065
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: get back to even and I didn't do anything wrong.

1066
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. It's like her when she's pregnant, does she

1067
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: have any of that, like crazy dreams or anything like

1068
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: that happening? Yeah, I mean no, but she along the way,

1069
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: like just throughout our relationship, I feel like she's definitely

1070
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: had those dreams where she's like, I'm sad and I'm like,

1071
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: what's wrong. She's like, I had a dream last night

1072
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: that you cheated on me, and I'm like, well, I

1073
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: would never do anything like that. Let me play a

1074
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: couple of things here from two thousand twelve. Here is

1075
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: All I Ever Needed from Chris Lane Man, oh my words.

1076
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: From two thousand twelve, Here is Let's ride. Here we go. Well,

1077
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: you're sad. What do you feel when you hear those bag?

1078
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly so nostalgic, but I'm like halfway embarrassed

1079
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: at the same because it was the first songs that

1080
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I ever sat down to write. No one ever told

1081
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: me how to write a song, uh with All I

1082
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: Ever needed? It was one of those things that Uh.

1083
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: I was such a big Keith Urban fan at the time.

1084
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Okay, that was the first song

1085
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: I ever wrote in my entire life. I sat down

1086
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: with my acoustic, just start playing these chords and and

1087
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, what would Keith Urban do or

1088
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: what would he say? And and I didn't get it right,

1089
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: not not even close. But that was my take on

1090
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: it at the time. And then, uh, the Less Ride

1091
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: was like one of those songs that, uh, I don't

1092
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: I just my whole life, I've loved that, uh Al

1093
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: Deane style, the Eric Church style, like the rocking guitars

1094
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing, um. And that was my take on that.

1095
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: I just sat down and I would play on my

1096
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: electric guitar in my room there and I just started

1097
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: writing that song. And and again, none of these songs

1098
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: are are amazing or great, but at the end of

1099
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: the day, the mind blowing part to me is that

1100
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: I sat down and wrote those, had a buddy record them.

1101
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: They sound terrible, all that kind of stuff, um, but

1102
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: people would show up to the shows and sing them

1103
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: in and it ultimately got me to where I'm at now.

1104
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: So I am, while I am mildly embarrassed embarrassed of

1105
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: those uh, I'm also thankful for him because they got

1106
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: me at this point. I have a bunch of questions

1107
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: that I always make a list of questions before someone

1108
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: comes in, because if the interviews are really not going well,

1109
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, let me just go to the questions.

1110
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: I haven't asked a single one of these, which is

1111
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: a good sign honestly. Um, So we'll do quick answers

1112
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: here because, um, well just because let's see here, what

1113
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: was a better day in your life? Your wedding or

1114
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: winning a championship with recupables? Dang, just just just for

1115
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: my wife's sating my wedding day. Are you still can

1116
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: you still play? I mean you still play ball? Like?

1117
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a lead out there? Uh? Out there? Yeah?

1118
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean I mean I can still You know, I

1119
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: played centerfield in college. Um, I can still track the

1120
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: ball down pretty good. Um. And I'm not hitting with

1121
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of power because I'm a small guy,

1122
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: but um but yeah, I can still hit hit it

1123
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: pretty decent. You you taken a couple, so you're like, hey,

1124
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: do you want to fill in? And I know in

1125
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: l A, weren't you. I would if we're out shooting

1126
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: a show. But I was thinking to myself, because I'll

1127
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: commit no matter what, I'll compete. I don't care what

1128
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: it is saying. If it's tiddley winks or softball, but

1129
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't played ball in in two or

1130
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: three years at all. And I was like, you know what.

1131
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I would have said yes, but I would have come

1132
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: back hurt and embarrassed. But dang it, I was gonna

1133
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: say yet. I pulled my hamstring numerous amounts of time

1134
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: out there just from I'm like, good lord, I'm getting

1135
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: old out here, but I remember from Uh, it's spent

1136
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: years and years and years ago, but uh, we played

1137
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: in a in a celebrity softball tournament together, and I

1138
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: remember you being awesome. No, awesome, it's not the word

1139
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: like barely holding on to any sort of good. I

1140
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: used to be. No, no, no, I used to be.

1141
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm kind of like Toby Keith.

1142
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as I once was, but one time,

1143
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: if you get me out there, I could be as

1144
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: good as I used to be. Yeah, Um, you're all

1145
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: d a c L injury, so'll give you trouble one

1146
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: of rains. Um, not necessarily, No, it's just I mean,

1147
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced a whole lot of pain with that good. Yeah.

1148
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: Like I broke I broke a pinky. It still hurts.

1149
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: If it gets cloudy, I'm like, oh my god, I'm dying. Yeah. Now,

1150
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: I will say this, like from running around out there

1151
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: on the field and stuff like that, I do get

1152
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: incredibly sore for like four or five days afterwards. Um,

1153
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: but I think this age. I saw you on Instagram

1154
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: A posted a screenshot between you and your wife about

1155
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: a clogged toilet, and I think you had her name as.

1156
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: I think her name is Lolo who I don't know.

1157
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I started calling her that when we first started hanging out,

1158
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: and that's what I saved dr my phone as and

1159
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: I never changed it. Uh. Throughout all this time, you

1160
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: get engaged and Lauren has a ton of social media

1161
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: following because of The Bachelor, Do you get a lot

1162
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: of social media following like residual from her? You know what?

1163
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't know the actual answer to that, but I

1164
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: do think it helped. I mean, the Bachelor Nation is

1165
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: a real, real thing. Um. And even though it's spend

1166
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: all the years ago since Lauren was on the show, um,

1167
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: she's still been able to Uh. Uh. I don't want

1168
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: to say stay in the public eye, but in a way,

1169
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call it other than

1170
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: that and and um, I think they've invested in her

1171
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: life and and because uh we're married now, um, I

1172
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: think that maybe makes them invest a little bit into

1173
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: my life as well, just just from her. So yeah,

1174
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: I think I definitely got a little bit of us

1175
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: When we first started dating. I noticed that my uh

1176
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: followers grew really quickly, um, compared to what they were,

1177
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure I did get some spill over

1178
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: from that. Any of those bachelor h people where they

1179
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: ever mean to you know, I've never had anybody be uh.

1180
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean that there's people who are who are rude

1181
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: and say weird things all the time, but um, I'm

1182
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: usually great about ignoring that it doesn't bother me and

1183
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: not that kind of stuff. But no one was ever rude,

1184
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: And I think the main reason is that they could

1185
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: see that it was real, that we had fun together,

1186
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: that it wasn't fake, none of that kind of stuff.

1187
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, people

1188
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: do love um real up they want to see people happy.

1189
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think from that end of things,

1190
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: it was it was real from the beginning, and hopefully

1191
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: people saw that. Or I'm an end with this because

1192
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: I know you opened for Garth that he asked you

1193
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: to go out and you did a show before him,

1194
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: so I get it's kind of a two part or

1195
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: one before you play. Does he do you say Heidi

1196
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: Garth before the show at all? Does he come by

1197
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: and say what's up? Yes? And I think, you know,

1198
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: everybody has great stories of Garth Brooks um And and

1199
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: now I know on a personal level why because he

1200
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to he went out of his way. Uh.

1201
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm allowed to say this, but uh, I

1202
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: get into my dress room earlier that day and there

1203
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: is a whole table full of merch signed by him.

1204
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, as a huge fan, that is, you know,

1205
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: obviously incredible. I'm super excited, super pumped. Did not think

1206
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: that he would stop buy and say hello, but him

1207
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: and Tricia both stopped by to say hello, stuck around

1208
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: for a while. We just sat there and chatted and uh,

1209
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: it was one of the coolest moments in my career.

1210
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: And I'll say this he uh he said, I heard

1211
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: you're a card guy, give me your best trick, and

1212
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, well, I don't know who

1213
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: you heard that from, but I'm not a car guy.

1214
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do anything. He was like, well,

1215
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: good because I am. And he put out a decade

1216
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: cards and did this uh and did this card trick

1217
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: that I feel like I had seen people do before,

1218
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: but he was really good at it. He totally like

1219
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: jip me. He got me and uh when he left

1220
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: the room, I was just, you know, smiling ear to ear,

1221
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: thinking this was the coolest thing that's ever happened to me.

1222
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, and uh uh one of my guitar

1223
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: players that played on the show with me, he was like,

1224
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: I know that trick, let me show you how to

1225
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: do it, and something that I was so mind blown

1226
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: over once I learned. Once I uh figured out how

1227
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: he did it, cracked me up that he pulled that

1228
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: off and actually got me on it. That's funny that

1229
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: Garth Brook comes into the room accused you of being

1230
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: a card guy, only because he knows you're not. He goes, well,

1231
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: I am, and then does a card trick and it

1232
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: walks out. It was awesome. He's the best, though, also

1233
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: are both the best. I also saw one of my

1234
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: other favorite artists, Keith Urban and and maybe he had

1235
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: heard me talk about him uh in interviews before, but

1236
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: I made eye contact right when I first got I

1237
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: just I think I just put out fixed uh. But

1238
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: I made eye contact with him at you know how

1239
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: artists go and do all the radio rounds, all that

1240
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, um for an award show. And he's

1241
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: across the room and make eye contact. And he walked

1242
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: out of his way to walk over there and say

1243
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: hello to me. And I was incredibly nervous. Um. I

1244
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: remember telling him the story about out uh me going

1245
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: to his concert and I was in this in the

1246
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: row at the time. He would he would do this

1247
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: gag where he would play you look good at my shirt,

1248
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: and he would always make himself or make his way

1249
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: into the crowd. And he walked upon an owl and

1250
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I just so happened to be. This is before I

1251
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: started playing music. I just so happened to be in

1252
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: the road that he came to. And he gave the guitar,

1253
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: his guitar away to one of the girls in my

1254
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: row a few seats down for man. I'm telling him

1255
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: the story. I'm like, man, you're my hero, Like, uh,

1256
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're my biggest inspiration, all this kind of stuff.

1257
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: And he gave me a hug and he was like, buddy,

1258
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: patting me on the back. He's like, buddy, you need

1259
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: to get out more. I listen, We've done an hour.

1260
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: It's been a great hour. Followed Chris. I am Chris Lane.

1261
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: Um hecking far along. Follow Lauren to at Lauren Lane.

1262
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: But this is not about her, however. Tell Arsta Hello,

1263
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: it's funny you guys. You guys are hilarious. We gotta

1264
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: hang out, man, all that hanging you got about a year,

1265
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 1: that's that. That's but tell her hello, congratulations. It's great

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