00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a. 00:00:17 Speaker 1: Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests, your own presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff, So how. 00:00:35 Speaker 3: Did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're in the backyard. There's already some children screaming, there's a bird screaming. I hope you're doing okay. I've kind of come to the realization today that I'm not good enough of a person for the nice lip bomb. I bought a nice lip bomb and it's gone, So now we're just going back to chapstick. I will never spend another ten dollars on Lipbom again. That doesn't mean you're not good enough for a nice lipbomb. Treat yourself to a nice little lipbom if needed, but I won't be. Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. It's Bridy Elliott, Bridy. Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me, Bridger. 00:01:35 Speaker 2: It's been a very long time. 00:01:36 Speaker 3: It really has. 00:01:37 Speaker 2: I feel like I see you about every six years. 00:01:40 Speaker 3: I think so. I think the last time I saw you I was on a date. 00:01:44 Speaker 2: On a sidewalk in last Fields. Yes, wow, a very good memory. Yes, how did the date go? 00:01:50 Speaker 3: The date was fascinating, but it was only one date. 00:01:54 Speaker 2: How was it fascinating? 00:01:56 Speaker 3: It was I was going out with someone who was very much having like a career moment, but I wasn't aware or had any knowledge of it. So it was them sort of like getting me up to speed on it. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, and they felt like that's that was the most important topic to talk about on a date. 00:02:16 Speaker 3: Yes, because it was like clearly it was a huge thing for them at that time. So they seemed almost like in a shocked state by what was what they were going on? 00:02:27 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, they were thrown by it, yeah, but. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: Also like luxuriating. When I say luxury ate, my voice cracks. I can't handle that way. 00:02:38 Speaker 2: Did you find the conversation interesting or were you like, please stop talking about your career? Were on a date? 00:02:43 Speaker 3: I found it interesting for sure. It was there was like, no, I wasn't like ick or anything. It was kind of the thing of going going out with someone who like, oh, okay, that was the brad Pit of his life. In that moment, he was Brad Pitt. He was like the main character and I was just this person being like cool. 00:03:07 Speaker 2: Just having this information unloaded on you. Yeah, or did you go to dinner? Did you go to a bar? 00:03:12 Speaker 3: We went to dinner, and then we went to a bar. And then I think I said good job because I finally watched their work. Oh fly, like engaged with their work. And then yeah, I didn't hear anything after. 00:03:27 Speaker 2: That, not even a like thank you. I think maybe, oh no. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: I don't remember, but it honestly like I feel like that it was a moment of dating that was like for both parties because I think it was a riyah o sh you know, and that always comes with like a little bit of a filter, i'd say, in terms of like the willingness to take it seriously and so just like somewhat disassociated dating. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: That does seem to be almost every Rayah experience for people. Yeah, I don't know anyone that has entered a long term relationship from Riot. It's always like, well, I met him on Ryan, he does this thing right, and I just want to interact with this person essentially and see how it goes. Yes, and then both people they part ways. Yeah, one compliments the other's work, the other doesn't say thank you so much, but I'm not interested in seeing you anymore. They just vanish totally. Has his career cretered? 00:04:24 Speaker 3: I don't know at this point. I think it's harder to know if someone is on top of the world or if they've been swallowed swallowed up by things now like he very well could be, you know, doing very well, or I just haven't heard any bad news. 00:04:43 Speaker 2: Quite possibly be dead. It's true. You know, you go on to first date with someone no more contact, they could die. 00:04:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that would explain the lack of text, you know. 00:04:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. The more people you date, the more likely someone you date it is going to die. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: It's true. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: I mean they're all going to die, but right die soon. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I. 00:05:05 Speaker 2: Think that's a good reason to date as many people as possible, to be like, well, I went on a date with this guy and now he's dead. 00:05:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, that's. 00:05:12 Speaker 2: A story to tell on another date. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: Completely. I feel like it also allows for more compassion when you're in front of someone that you may never see again. 00:05:21 Speaker 2: They don't know where it's going to happen. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: When they get in their car. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: This could be goodbye forever. Wow. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Do you enjoy a first date? You're in a relationship now. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: I am in a relationship now, and I do enjoy a first date. I think the pandemic sort of broke me in terms of wanting anything besides a first date. Oh. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: Interesting. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: I went on so many dead dates that it just became kind of this psychedelic experience. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that's now just your relationship is first dates. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 00:05:58 Speaker 2: Okay, So during the pandemic, did you do zoom dates? 00:06:02 Speaker 3: Oh? One one time with a man who like clearly didn't enjoy my decorations. 00:06:10 Speaker 2: Oh no, he was there to just kind of criticize your home. 00:06:14 Speaker 3: Well he was. It was a little bit compare contrast between his new apartment versus my new apartment, and he was giving me tips about, you know, certain things I could do. Yeah, and then that fell off. It was it ended in a way of like, okay, cool. There was like an activeness to the zoom where it was just like, oh, he's he wants to improve my house. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: Right, he's kind of interacted with my reality. Yes, it's strange, strange exactly. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: He doesn't really like my couch and maybe that means he wants to insert himself in some way. But instead he sent me a link to some Candelabra thing I could put in my fireplace, okay, because I'm not I wasn't allowed to use my fireplace at my last home because fires. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: Right, And that was it. Did you buy the Candelabra? 00:07:04 Speaker 3: I didn't. I hearted it and I was like, oh my god, so such a good idea. But I didn't buy the Candlelabra. I did buy something that was of the same. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: Some sort of candle holding device. 00:07:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, but not the not the one that he needed me to buy. 00:07:20 Speaker 2: He's a Candelabra salesman. 00:07:23 Speaker 3: And then he like a year went by and he liked me again as though we had never met. And I was like, oh. 00:07:31 Speaker 2: We spoke, And what was his reaction to that? Did you get the candlelabra? Checking in about the candelabra? Wow, that's really odd. What was his game there? He thought that you just had a horrible memory, or. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: I think he had a horrible memory and just did not remember. And yeah, and there was also just to all of these people. There's like a neutrality because it's like, oh, you know, I don't know you at all. I don't know what like aspect of you is like engaging with me right now if he was heartbroken or like upset about something or angry, I. 00:08:07 Speaker 2: Hope he was heartbroken after one zoom date criticizing your house, well, no, I. 00:08:14 Speaker 3: Mean like coming in with a. 00:08:15 Speaker 2: Heartbreaking in with a heartbreak. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: Bad thing, and then just needing me to have this candelabra that was just some vestige from a different relationship that held meaning. 00:08:27 Speaker 2: Maybe his last partner kept the candelabra, and he's thinking, maybe if Bridy buys one get into a relationship, I've got a new candelabra. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that might have been it. 00:08:36 Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea for a home decortia where it's just the home designer gets like one peak through a zoom. They're just interacting with the person at home and they're just seeing a small thing directing them. I feel like that would be very engaging. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: To what totally totally well. Also, furniture and relationships speak, they become very important if you become domestic. They become like totems of you know, your progress in terms of your intimacy or like I don't know, or or just like used against each other. There's things from you know, my past relationship that's in our house currently, same with him, and you know they have like a little haunted ness. 00:09:18 Speaker 2: Oh so they still kind of have a negative energy surrounding them or energy. 00:09:23 Speaker 3: Or just like you know, you stare at them long enough and they become they kind of like anthem, they. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: More start telling you why the relationship didn't work. 00:09:34 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 00:09:36 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that makes sense to me. I mean, do you have your eye on your like I'm going to get rid of that soon. 00:09:42 Speaker 1: No. 00:09:42 Speaker 3: I like I like keeping things, Oh I think because in some way I think that like, oh, when I'm an old woman, I'm going to be telling a story to my grand children and giving them a tour and they're gonna care that Eric got this at a thrift store. 00:10:03 Speaker 2: And so really, what kind of items are we talking about? Large? Small? 00:10:08 Speaker 3: I'm I'm talking like books, paintings, sometimes, like items of clothing, Okay, not like anything too intimate t shirts, right, just stuff that like even less so in the relationship, like definitely was a marker of a period of time. 00:10:30 Speaker 2: Right, it has actual value and memory attached. 00:10:34 Speaker 3: Not so much value, okay, Like these are cheap items. Personal value, yes, personal value, but yeah, and then you have to tell the story and you're like, well, actually that was given to me by this person, but maybe that's not the important part of the story. 00:10:48 Speaker 2: Completely sure. And at least they're manageable sizes. You know, I was picturing large pieces of furniture, plastic tubs. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: Yes, well, there's like they're in our house. Now there's a table from my partner's past relationship. 00:11:03 Speaker 2: Oh okay, and that. 00:11:04 Speaker 3: Table is funny. It's like it's a reference table where we kind of reference the table. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: Oh you kind of well gesture to it, remember her? Do you ever eat at it? 00:11:18 Speaker 3: No, it's it's not that kind of table. It's it's sort of a console like table for more for books or for you know, if you had a TV. But it's more this like symbolic little like you know, ghost of Christmas past right there in front of us. We got to hold onto the present. 00:11:43 Speaker 2: You moved in recently, yes, was were there any discussions about what to keep and what to get rid of? Did you bring a bunch of stuff that your partners like, please don't bring that in. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:11:53 Speaker 3: No, I brought in a lot because he had no furniture. It was very It was a very typical, like undressed house, and we painted and we got a lot of new furniture because I came from this little spot and we needed bigger things. So that was fun. I really like a part of my comfort and way of functioning is designing my environment. So I get it. I get a real kick out of that stuff. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: What's your generalist I. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: Would say it's like Grandma a little bit like coziness and antique with mid century modern stuff. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Sure. 00:12:40 Speaker 3: Yes, I like a little bit of I was raised in a house that was full of antiques. My parents are like strict, like only antiques from this time period, like very gothic architecture. Yeah, and so being raised amongst that's kind of like gothy stuff. And my boyfriend is he's really into horror and goth stuff. So there was a little bit of Okay. 00:13:03 Speaker 2: We're drawing darkness towards you. Yes, But then at. 00:13:07 Speaker 3: The same time, I like poppy plants and you know, little Grandma trinkets. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: I'd say that seems like a decent combination. Of things. I feel like those can go hand in hand. 00:13:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, old woman, kind of old weathered crone type stuff. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: Because a lot of grandma's live in scary houses. Whether they like it or not, They've created scary environments for people to be in. 00:13:27 Speaker 3: It's true. 00:13:28 Speaker 2: So I feel like that's a perfect that's a peanut butter and chocolate type thing. Well, I like to hear that. It feels like you're turning his life around. You're saving a life essentially. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: It's true. I'm making him feel like old you know, I'm making him feel like we have grandkids to give little trinkets too, and that we're gonna have to hold on to each other. 00:13:51 Speaker 2: Right, You're very focused on giving your grandchildren trinkets. That's kind of priority number one. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: It's true. 00:13:59 Speaker 2: More people should priority tis grandchildren's trinkets. I think that's important. What was I going to always going to ask you about these rebox because they look brand new and they're bright red, they're beautiful. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I yeah, I've kept them in pretty good condition. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: Oh so how old are these? They look like you got them out of the box to wear them to the podcast. 00:14:17 Speaker 3: I really actually appreciate that because I do tend to smudge dirt onto stuff very fast. These are in, say, good five months. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah wow. 00:14:29 Speaker 3: And I got them on a whim. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: Just at the outlet mall. No, I was online online, typical typical story these days, being online and buying shoes. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: Exactly. I was online. I think I was like getting some sort of I tend to mostly get skincare online because I don't know how to walk into an alta or. 00:14:53 Speaker 2: A forehead and not get overwheund. 00:14:55 Speaker 3: No, It's it's really rough and it's really expensive. But these Reboks just kind of presented themselves. I feel like algorithmically, they just had them at the bottom of a website where I was like buying some sort of like serum and just red really speaks to me in terms of a sneaker. 00:15:17 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, they were on a website where you buy facial serums. 00:15:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, like some sort of little ad at the bottom of it. Yes, exactly. Wow, they got you, They really did. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: Did you go? Was it direct from Reebok or was it from another. 00:15:33 Speaker 3: I think it was rebok Okay, Yeah. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: Rebok feels like they're on the upswing again. I think Rebock waves. 00:15:40 Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think I wore them as a child so much that I thought they were dorky afterwards. Why did I do that? 00:15:50 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:15:51 Speaker 3: But then and now I feel like all these very hot, cool young people are wearing high toppy Rebox and dancing and and it's. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: Like they haven't changed the shape or the style of this particular Reboxing, not one hundred years. It's a classic, yeah, classic shoe. 00:16:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have they have new ones too. They're still inventing. 00:16:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do invent But you don't want those, No, No one wants those rebox Yeah. No, No, that feels like that's just somebody's hobby at the company to make new one new looking ones. 00:16:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's true. 00:16:25 Speaker 2: When I think of a Rebox, I can't even imagine a new like a futuristic looking shoe. 00:16:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:16:32 Speaker 2: I picture a different font. I mean no, I mean they have an excellent font. Yeah, classic font. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Really. 00:16:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a lot of Rebox. I had a velcrow pair of Rebox that I got at the Rebox outlet store in Park City, Utah. I think they must have only made one one pair. I love them so much, and about every eighteen months, I think I'm going to find them online and I start doing deep searches for Navy Blue Rebox Velcrow. They don't exist. Oh man, So maybe not that I'm saying that the rebox will reach out. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: To me completely. 00:17:02 Speaker 2: Do you have any like clothing items that you are mad you've got rid of. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, or like clothes that got rid of me because I can't fit into them anymore or. 00:17:13 Speaker 2: They fell apart opeful. 00:17:15 Speaker 3: I feel like kind of usually i'm a I get really into something. I'm usually a vintage shopper or a thrift store person. There's housing works in New York City is so good, like kind of dependent on location, but the Upper West Side housing works and the Brooklyn like Brooklyn Heights housing Works, they just a lot of wealthy people donate all that stuff or they have designer stuff. And I had this one very cool serami dress that I wore a lot as a twenty five year old, and it just felt like it was it was probably four dollars. I also tend to really like cheap you're in good company, So I feel like when something is under ten dollars and it fits me like a glove, I am I feel like, Wow, this was meant from the universe to buy it. Yeah, some sort of higher power, I'm not sure, just really decided. 00:18:19 Speaker 2: Of God putting a beautiful little vintin skirt in front of you, her dress, she would love this, got us You're in this. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: But but that Yeah, that fell apart just just one day, like snapped open like a friggin body, you know, corpse. Yeah, so I had to throw it away. I mean it was starting to feel like rags. I think prior leading up to it falling apart, I was like, it's a little bit lost its edge, which is what happens when you buy like clothing from that. Someone is saying, I need to throw this out. 00:18:56 Speaker 2: It was already it's already someone's garbage. Now you've worn it for years. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I regret throwing it out because there's part of me where I'm always like, I wish I could know if I just pulled it out, ironed it or something. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Stitch it back together. I've bet somebody could put it back together for you. You've got to go to the tailor. 00:19:15 Speaker 3: It's true. It's true. 00:19:17 Speaker 2: I have a Subaru T shirt that I got for test driving a Subaru in two thousand and eight. Oh, I had no interest. I wasn't going to buy the Subaru. I wanted the T shirt, but now it's got a hole about right here, and I feel like I'll keep wearing it. But it is the sort of thing where I can't really lift my arms while in the shirt. There are I can't go to certain events in the shirt. But maybe it's just part of the general look. I think it is because I again have looked for these online and because they were probably they were only given away for test driving. They're not available right for purchase. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 00:19:49 Speaker 2: Wow, So I'm hanging on to this thing. Yeah, I'm begging it not to fall apart. Maybe I should take it to a tailor. But the idea of taking a threadbare Subaru T shirt to a tailor, like can you repair this? They're going to laugh me out of the store. 00:20:02 Speaker 3: I think they've probably seen a lot freakier things than that, You know what I mean? This sandals? 00:20:10 Speaker 2: We shall see. Well, you know, there's something else we need to talk about. There's something that we have to that I need to confront you about. Okay, I was really excited to have you here today. I thought I haven't seen Bridy since that fateful night we'll have a nice time catching up. Maybe i'll hear about the date. So I was a little surprised when you stormed into my backyard holding a gift. The podcast is called. I said, no gifts. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry. I just couldn't resist. And so I was like, I haven't seen Bridgerrand so long, and I really I need to get him something. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: Hell, well, that's very sweet. That was That's a very innocent thing to do. Yeah, I mean, nonetheless, it was a bad move. But I'm happy you're here and we're recording the podcast. Should I open it you're on the show? 00:21:00 Speaker 3: Yes, please do? That would be amazing. 00:21:06 Speaker 2: Okay, it's kind of I would say that it's like a square shape, almost the shape of like a vinyl record album or something, but it's wrapped in a. 00:21:15 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:21:17 Speaker 2: If that's right. I'm gonna I'm gonna win a prize wrapped in this beautiful wrapping paper that says stay cool. It's a little ice cream and in an a ice cream cone, which is very confusing. We're going to open it up here. 00:21:31 Speaker 3: It might be kind of double wrapped. 00:21:32 Speaker 2: Oh I love a double wrap more sadess Oh, it is double wrap because it's got a brown Yeah. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: Brown has has kind of a giveaway if you if you read the brown bag, Yeah. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: Okay, it says gimme gimme records on it. This isn't Highland Park. 00:21:52 Speaker 3: It might be it might be very close by. 00:21:54 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I don't think i've ever seen. 00:21:56 Speaker 3: Oh really, that's a great spot. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: Okay, Miuel'll stop in. Well that's an advertisement for get me, get me records. Yes, I'm going to storm their store. Okay, let me pull this out. Oh wow, this wait. Oh there are multiple records in here. This is crazy and they're like good records. 00:22:16 Speaker 3: Well there there's there's stamp staples. There's staples of everyone's collection. Everyone needs these. 00:22:23 Speaker 2: There's first the best of the Dave Clark five. Then there's I'm not actually familiar with this Carly coming around again? Really is this Carly Simon? Yes, that's it's wild to me that Carly Simon doesn't have her full name on a. 00:22:37 Speaker 3: I know, it's like, what, well, what's your full name? Roughness? 00:22:41 Speaker 2: I guess at one point she was the only Carly totally. I guess. Now we have a Carly Ray JEPS and that's the only car Carle Carly Simon's interesting name. Now that I'm saying that out loudly beautiful coming around again with Carly, it's really then the Godspell record. This is okay, so tell me these do feel like Staples, but I'd be curious to hear what you have to say about them. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, The Dave Clark five is a band that I became familiar with as sort of a young adult in Amba. I found their CD and then I was sort of explained to by someone at the store at the time that they were like basically a year ahead of the Beatles, and they are very beatles y, and they were they knocked I Want to Hold Your Hand off number one with their hit glad all Over Oh Wow in Britain, but they didn't come to the US fast enough and the Beatles totally eclipse them. And then people are like, oh, Dave Clark five, they're ripping off the Beatles. But they were before the Beatles, and yeah, they disbanded I think in the seventies and have this sort of shadow over them, but they have really good music. 00:24:01 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm trying to I know a Dave Clark five song. Let me see if it's on here or there's one, I think, because that's so interesting. I'm so familiar with the band name, but I can't and this type of music even. 00:24:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very sixties jaunty, kind of garagi. 00:24:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wonder what song I know by them, The Dave Clark five, that's a I mean, comparing that to the name the Beatles, I feel like, not. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: Quite as not a great start with the title compared to the Beatles, for sure. Yeah, it's I find it fascinating that the Beatles were what the Beatles are, and yet there are so many people with just as good music more just so on par and like right there with them, but they did not get the same spotlight completely. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: I mean, you've those early Begi's records, Yes, sound very beatlesy, totally. Obviously the Beg's did well for themselves later on, yes, but those first ones are like, oh, these are as good as Beatles songs. Yeah, but nobody really talks about those early non disco beaches. Yeah. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: But it's just like when the magic was for the Beatles, and like when the magic hits for other bands like the Beg's or like even the Monkeys too, I think about I mean the Monkeys had a good run and all that, but they had to differentiate them So everyone had to differentiate themselves so much to not be just under the boot of the Beatles. 00:25:31 Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, I mean. And the other thing people don't talk about what the Beatles name is. It's a very lame name. It's a pun, it's a dorky name for a band. True, and it's probably, you know, been a plague on spelling for decades. Yeah, I think most people probably think it's with an A. 00:25:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, completely. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: We probably should just officially change Beatles spelling to be E A T L E. 00:25:57 Speaker 3: It's true. I didn't think about that because I'm dyslexic and have terrible spellings, so I just spell. But I was brought up so beetles heavy, which is just such a Yeah, it's milk and milk and butter as they say, but my mom, yeah they do. My mom would call it would She would pick a cake for Paul McCartney on his birthday every year. I was like a kid. And when she was older, she moved to New York and she worked at like theater refreshment at Broadway shows and worked at the Beatlemania Show, and she like dated all these fake beetles. So there was like this like entrenchment with beetle culture in my family. They were always on in the car. So finding the Dave Clark five to me was like holy, it was like a Beatles conspiracy theater. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Verse. Oh my god, this could have all been part of the Elliott family instead. Exactly what would that universe have look to? Like? 00:27:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave Clark? 00:27:04 Speaker 2: Who is Dave Clark? 00:27:05 Speaker 3: Mom? Tell me? 00:27:07 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite Beatles song? 00:27:10 Speaker 3: Oh? Norwegian Wood just came to mind. 00:27:13 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite? 00:27:16 Speaker 2: Maybe two of us? Oh, that one always makes you sad too. The name of the song the two of us know it is? It is? Yeah? No, I was like, I said, that's that one always makes me a little sad if you think about it in the in terms of John and Paul being friends and then not being friends. That sort of thing always with bands when a band breaks up, I'm like, who cares if they're going to make new music? Are they still friends? That's important? 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true that song makes me think of I Am Sam with Sean Penn and Dakota far Oh. 00:27:47 Speaker 2: Boy, I don't know that I've seen this. Amy Man covers the song with her Yeah. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's beautiful album. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: It's all Beatles covers. Yeah, I feel like there's a Granddaddy cover of a song on there. Randa Jetty covers the song. But I never saw the movie. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: The movie is Heartbreak. I just remember as a ten year old watching it, sobbing and watching it over and over. Yeah, it's like Sean Penn and Dakota Fanning, Dakota Fanning's father daughter relationship. They're trying to take her away from him. He's mentally handicapped person who's trying to. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Keep her and oh wow. 00:28:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's very heartbreaking. 00:28:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems like a showering. 00:28:33 Speaker 3: Probably a weird movie now. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, right, I. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Don't know how well it's aged. 00:28:40 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, kind of a Forrest Gump type thing. Yeah, what are the ethics of yeah, type of filmmaking. 00:28:48 Speaker 3: The other sister, I know the earlier it's with Juliet Lewis and Giovanni Ribisi. 00:28:54 Speaker 2: Oh, I've never heard of this. 00:28:55 Speaker 3: It's the same thing. It's sort of like almost like a Benny and June romance movie between them. But to watch it back is a little right. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: Right, when did that come out. 00:29:08 Speaker 3: It was like probably around Oh gosh, I wish I could get the exact year. It's my it's like, you know the year podcast now it might be two thousand, it might be two thousand and two. No, it's like two thousand ish I think. 00:29:23 Speaker 2: Or blow, Yeah it must be. 00:29:25 Speaker 3: It was ninety nine, very close, ninety nine. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: Oh wrong, millennium. Yeah, it's a shame. 00:29:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, that actually sucks. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: Everything sucks for you. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: There was like a moment around two thousand where I was just constantly glued to Star's channel as a child, and the other sister was in that rotation. 00:29:44 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds like a real like cable movie. Yes, saying that, they were like, well, it's fine, put it on. We got the right Sarah Paulson's in it. Sarah Paulson excellent act. Sarah Paulson is She is a workhorse. Oh yeah, she is in all kinds of things, totally, never stop. It's working, totally, always good. Regardless of the quality of the project. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: She's good. But she's always on the move. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: She's constantly on the move. Busy, busy, busy. 00:30:08 Speaker 3: When she's on screen, it's a blur because she's already in makeup for a different part, and you're like, wait a minute, are you entering? Are you exiting? 00:30:15 Speaker 2: Is that a kiss? 00:30:16 Speaker 3: She's gone. 00:30:17 Speaker 2: You just hear like a loud shriek and see a blur across your screen. 00:30:21 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:30:21 Speaker 2: Another Sarah Paulson performance. She nailed it. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: She is fascinating layers. I saw her in New York walking her dog about two months ago, and she made eye contact with me as though to say I know that. Not like she was like I know and with like a tude, but it was like like I know, you know, yeah, please don't say anything to me. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: That's an interesting way to live your life. I mean, I guess maybe when you're in this many things, you kind of have to just constantly be looking out for yourself totally. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: I mean, I got it. I did, and I was not like on the approach at all. Had my instinct. I found I had a backpack full of like headshots from thirty years ago and markers in my hands. Now I have the same instinct. Like I was giving her the same look of like, don't come over to me just because I know who you are. Is how I feel like kind of what I be mad a lot of the time, so I get it. I feel spiritually connected to her a little bit. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: I hope that's the problem with Sarah Paulison, and she's constantly approaching other people to let them know she's Sarah Paulson. I mean, there's a chance she's networking. That's how she's getting these charms. 00:31:36 Speaker 3: You gotta schmooz a little bit. 00:31:38 Speaker 2: I got to introduce yourself to people while you're walking the dog. So do you have a favorite Dave Clark's song. 00:31:44 Speaker 3: Well, it's weird because I'm bad at like the titles of songs, so it's like, I know the jingle right, But I think anything you Want is sort of their big hit, and that's the one that's sort of the most ear where me, and because is really good Anything you Want I think it's called that. It's like anything you Want it that's alid with me, and I think that's the one that okay, you know beat I want to hold your hand and from the little I just sang, I think you can understand how big of it hit him. 00:32:20 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so should we move on to the Carly album? 00:32:23 Speaker 3: Sure? 00:32:23 Speaker 2: I do love this Dave Clark five album art. It's just kind of a family photo. 00:32:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally different faces, all looking a little grim. 00:32:33 Speaker 2: They just found some children on the street and took a photo with them. Interesting choice. 00:32:37 Speaker 3: Now, photographer was like, say Beatles, and they're. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: Like, no, Beatles is a good cheese replacement. Yeah, Beatles. Well, and actually then Beatles end up kind of making a kissing. 00:32:50 Speaker 3: Face Beetles triangular smile. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. This Carly album, she looks incredible. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, her hair is so fluffy and it has always bushy. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, that used to be like a positive, like the what's that Beach Boys song? Bushy bushy blonde hair. Can you imagine someone saying your hair, you're supposed to be happy about that? 00:33:15 Speaker 3: Just wiry curl dry curls. 00:33:20 Speaker 2: Pubic like it looks like animals could. But this is bushy. 00:33:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bushy. I would say even. 00:33:28 Speaker 2: Maybe feathery a little sure. 00:33:30 Speaker 3: And this was played often when we weren't listening to Beatles. Carly was also a huge childhood favorite of my mother's and Coming Around Again is sort of this album. It might totally now I'm making sit up, but it's very much a breakup album, and so I think it probably was probably after James Taylor and her decided to part ways. But it was also the sexiest album that I had ever heard. And she said as the word sex and a song, and that was like my first time hearing a woman like sing like she says, all I want is you and a sexy hurricane that we share. My voice keeps cracking whenever I say whenever I say passionate words, my voice is like hurricane. Way, We're not gonna say hurricane. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: I thought that was a beautiful performance and the melody came. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: I started so confidently, and then it broke at hurricane, I can't take. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: It all well, auto tun it into a blify. You sound like a complete robot. It'll be a daft punk song by the time we're done with it. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: But Sexy Hurricane was like my first like introduction to even like sex in a general sense. All I want is you are a and a sexy hurricane that we share. Oh So it was very abstract and confusing to. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: Me because I'm sure at the time you had some idea of what a hurricane wants, like boarding up the windows, yeah, floods yeah. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: I was like, well, how fast are they moving? Are they? 00:35:10 Speaker 2: Sarah paulsoning kind of getting blasted against walls. 00:35:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt it felt like something outside of themselves. It wasn't between two people. It was like and a sexy hurricane that we share, So something in front of them, you know what I mean. 00:35:26 Speaker 2: Wind? 00:35:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, wind and like high heels and a scarf kind of flowing in the wind or something. But yeah, this album is a very also strong karaoke album too. 00:35:41 Speaker 2: Let Me See What Let's See. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: Coming Around Again is like about love gone wrong. She's married and they have a baby and she's trying to it's sort of a song where she's trying to persuade the husband to like lighten up. She's like, I know, nothing it's the same, but if you're willing to play the game, it'll be coming around again. But the opening is like baby sneezes, Daddy breezes in, so good on papers, so romantic, so bewildering. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: So it's like it starts off very very domestic. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very domestic, and it's just her being kind of a disappointed housewife. And then the chorus is her pleading like I know, nothing stays the same, but if you're willing to play. 00:36:32 Speaker 2: The game, so she wants him to change. Yeah, she wants him to stop being such a bore exactly. 00:36:38 Speaker 3: But it's weird because similar to the sexy Hurricane, she's like, if you're willing to play the game, it will be coming around again. So again it's like outside of herself, something good will show up. 00:36:50 Speaker 2: Very abstract, yes, and this, and we assume it's about James. 00:36:55 Speaker 3: I assume. 00:36:56 Speaker 2: So do they have kids? 00:36:57 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:36:58 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: Yes, I only know that because there's some kind of hauntingly hot video of them when they were like really tan and blue eyes, barefoot, Yeah, and just like and then they have all these like kids around them on the couch and uh. 00:37:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how many kids they've got and did they go on. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: To do any sixty at this point. 00:37:25 Speaker 1: On? 00:37:25 Speaker 2: At least you have any idea how many children? 00:37:27 Speaker 3: I think just one. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: In the photo. 00:37:31 Speaker 3: Oh I wonder. Yeah. I guess it was maybe a previous marriage or nor not marriage. I don't know why. I'm assuming. 00:37:38 Speaker 2: No, you can only have children within the confines of marriage. This is a very traditional podcast. If you've had a child outside of marriage, stop listen. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Wait, I totally overlooked their daughter. They have a daughter named Sally. Sorry I did two kids. Well maybe there's also a story. I'm very much my mom is influencing all this stuff. But she saw My mom saw husbands and wives in the theater, and she came out of the theater. My mom was the biggest Carly Simon fan, and she saw this woman who was standing in the rain in a big overcoat and she looked very kind of ragged lady and almost like with dirt on her face. And she was like, that's Carly Simon. And she was Carly Simon was there listening to people talk about husbands and wives whoa And she was a really good friend of Mia Pharaoh. I got there because I got there because of all the kids, and I was like thinking to myself, well maybe there were AMA's kids. She has a lot of kids. But yeah, she say. My mom surmised, this is just like another fun far leap of who knows if this is reality. But my mom was like, I think she was just spying on what people were saying about the movie because Mia was going through the divorce at the time and she was so you know, like scared of what people would say it. 00:39:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was kind of doing some audience testing covered in dirt, yes, why did you have dirt? Other things? 00:39:15 Speaker 3: I think just a camouflage. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: That's a very funny camouflage in New York, Like she's just come out of a bush. Wow, Carly is a good friend to have then if you. 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Want to seems like that. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want the intel from audience screening, Yeah, completely, she's got a clipboard. Oh wow, that's really fascinating. Now it looks like the last song on this Is it literally an Itsy Bitsy Spiders cover? 00:39:45 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's really she. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: Don't call that a cover? What is that just a Yeah. 00:39:49 Speaker 3: I'd say it's a cover, right, but a. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: Cover of who who wrote Itsy Bitsy Spider. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: Spider? Yeah? Yeah, it's a really cool, like drummy eighties drum. It's see bits Sea Spider. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: Oh, intradition kind of like a spoken word sort of thing. 00:40:12 Speaker 3: No, it's more Oh gosh, it's hard to describe because it's it's just very eighties is how I would describe it. Even though yeah, it's like you know, when Bob Dylan got into the eighties, Bob Dylan. It feels like that. It's like suddenly we're taking a very like folk thing and making it. 00:40:33 Speaker 2: Feel kind of modern and strange. 00:40:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: And there's also a song on here called two Hot Girls on a Hot Summer Night, which is a great, incredible. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Song to Yes, totally, that's like another like thing of like, wow, horny women, it's too hot, hot summer night, looking for love and for love and for love. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really breaking through, especially to a child, bridy, I mean, what a formative thing. 00:40:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's beyond verbal, Like I can't verbally articulate a lot of what I'm going through as we're talking about it. But it was definitely, you know, some a bit of an awakening for me as a kid, and you know I want that for you as well. 00:41:16 Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for that moment as an adult. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: Man. 00:41:19 Speaker 2: I'm just like when this is going to happen for me. I'm trying to think of what my like initial sexy song was, and I cannot remember. I my neighbor Vicky Smith would drive us the car pool to school and she was always listening to like Janet Checks, and so it was probably in that realm. I bet that that car something was happening. Yeah, but I can't remember a specific moment. I just really associate Janet with the Grand Riviera driving us around. Is that the name of the car? Yeah, I think that's a Riviera. I think it's the name a Buick Riviera. Giant gray boat of a car blasting Janet Jacks and that's awesome. So I bet that's what it was. Yeah. 00:41:57 Speaker 3: Buicks are also kind of sexy because they're just big us a boat or on a mattress. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all kind of mattress shapes. Totally vehicles. 00:42:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't feel the road at all. 00:42:08 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, gliding through the air. And Buick couch. I love those cars with a giant like backseat that's just essentially a couch. 00:42:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 00:42:17 Speaker 2: My friend had a Crown Victoria like that. Loved sitting in the back seat. Oh that's nice, plush Wow. Okay, So I've got this Carly Simon album. Did we ever find out who You're so vain is about? 00:42:30 Speaker 3: I feel like they said it recently, but it went over my head. 00:42:35 Speaker 2: It just wasn't that interesting or something. 00:42:37 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, well, Mick Jagger sings with her on the album. He's in the background being like done gie done. 00:42:45 Speaker 2: Oh wow. I didn't know that. 00:42:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then so I think recently maybe they came out and said, Mick Jagger on a lease, Warren Batty, Warren Baby Baby. 00:42:55 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that's not that fun. 00:42:57 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like there's a rotation where she's like, no, it's not him, and it's always the same people. It's like, well, is it Jack Nicholson, is it Warren Baby or is it Mick Jagger? And she's like, I don't know, but I feel like she keeps revealing and then not remembering that extreme behavior. 00:43:16 Speaker 2: Imagine being that coy about something for that long and still having friends. That feels but I think we should just finally say it was Warren. It was regardless of what Carly says in the future. 00:43:29 Speaker 3: I would like to hear Warren's thoughts, but I feel like he has completely forgotten about anything between him and Carly. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: Or he can probably barely remember her name, So yeah, he's not a good source. 00:43:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like having the different points of view would be interesting, but just her keeping datekeeping the secret and revealing it and then taking it back, and because it was supposed to be on I feel like there was on Criby Your Enthusiasm there was an episode where about it. Oh really, yeah, it was as like a part of it where it's like, whoever wins the auction, we'll hear who this song is about. And yeah, now it's twenty twenty four, it's just like post pandemic. I don't need to care about this. 00:44:14 Speaker 2: We finally, we just had to go through a devastating pandemic for people to be like, Carly, enough, enough is enough, we don't care anymore. She waited just slightly too long. Yeah, she should have, Like twenty eighteen would have been the year. It would have been huge news. Now it's been washed away. She missed her opportunity completely. She could have had a complete career of ivil completely, she'd be back on the charts. Carly, you failed, and now we have God's Spell. I don't think I'm familiar with any songs from God's Spell. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: Really, day by day. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: I'm I'm so bad with musical theater. 00:44:52 Speaker 3: Do you like musicals in general at all? 00:44:55 Speaker 2: I do, but I'm very new to them. I had not seen a musical until I started dating my boyfriend in twenty fifteen. I don't think I had ever maybe like a high school musical, you know, like not the television show. Let's be very clear, musical within a high school. Yeah, but he took me to a Book of Mormon and he's been on Broadway a bunch of times. So now I've kind of been educated about musical theater, but I'm still am an infant. 00:45:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you enjoy it. 00:45:25 Speaker 2: I always enjoy it. I mean, I'm trying to think of once I didn't like Spring Awakening. Yeah, I thought it was awful. Yeah, you seeing the show I have? Yeah, what was your feeling on this? 00:45:36 Speaker 3: I did not attach to it the way everyone around me did and went. I went to a high school that was close to New York City on the train line in Westchester, New York, and so a lot of and I was in the theater kid group. 00:45:53 Speaker 2: Huh. 00:45:54 Speaker 3: And so it was like, are you gonna come on the train? 00:45:57 Speaker 2: He's bring Awakening again again. 00:45:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like fan fangirls, fanboys all like my whole class was super into it. And I just never, I think, whenever something has that weight, I just it's like I only can see why I shouldn't share those feelings. It's like with everything, though it's movies or it's like the most popular thing, it's like, okay, let's see how I will ruin this for myself. 00:46:27 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm very much in the same boat. Yeah, well, I don't know if it's like maybe there's something about mass appeal that for me, it's kind of a curse in a lot of ways where I'm like, oh, everyone's enjoying this thing and I would love to be able to, but I think it's garbage. Yes, I think it's cheeseball right, and. 00:46:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, or you I find that I just like everyone is under this influence and I should not be under this influence. 00:46:53 Speaker 2: Right, So you're making a really deliberate choice you want to be free. 00:46:56 Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's not that I think it's more late like not like lazy, but yeah, truly like a conflict within myself where it's like getting on board with something that has been hyped up in any way and now it's just even worse. With the Internet. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: Oh, the Internet ruins everything. Everything is the best thing that's ever happened, and then you go see it in a theater and you're like, oh, that was a bad film. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: Okay, that was fine to bad. Yeah, Like there's our expectations and perception of going into anything. It's just best to be completely blind and not know what you're getting into. I think every single time with anything, but yeah, yeah, Spring Awakening was definitely like this will change your life, and then I saw it nothing registered. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Oh for that music. Oh that music's terrible. 00:47:48 Speaker 3: I don't truly remember. 00:47:50 Speaker 2: I mean it's just the cheesiest music. 00:47:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:47:53 Speaker 2: This is something I don't like about musical theater is like within the last twenty to thirty years, where it's like a rock score, but it sounds so phony. It sounds like, you know, like free use music, where it's like a free use version of rock music, right, if that makes. 00:48:12 Speaker 3: Anything, yes, Yeah, And the dancing is sort of this very robotic kind of background dance type, like there's nothing very I always think about Dick van Dyke, like, who's still really going hard still. 00:48:28 Speaker 2: As far as we know, Oh my gosh, he is at one hundred. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: He's amazing. Yeah, I think he's a hundred. Wow. But he, like for two seconds at the Tonys maybe ten years ago, did his sort of chimney dance with the now present day chimney sweepers who are all these like sexy like muscle grinding up yeah, or like humping the air. And then Dick van Dyke just for two seconds is smiling and like moving his legs and like the kind of like skeleton type way that he does, like hopping around, and it's just so much more blissful and human. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: Oh I love that kind of earnest. 00:49:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, like pop and lock In, but it's happening on Broadway with classic things. It's yeah, it's very weird. 00:49:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just need I think musical theater is inherently kind of corny or lame in a good way. Yeah, And I think it should be that it should be so earnest, and it should be over the top and fun, yeah, extremely emotive, and so when you try to like turn it into a rock show or whatever, it just feels like, oh, you're embarrassed of what you're doing. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, totally. I think Godspell and Hair and just like the era of like Twila Tharp the choreographer in the seventies, completely different measure of what a musical could be. It's like so much more transcendent. I feel like the most joyous actual art is musicals, but it's just been so we don't know how to do them right correctually. I saw Dix the musical. 00:50:09 Speaker 2: I love Oh my God, are you kidding me. I mean the first movie I've laughed at in a theater in a decade. 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it was amazing. It was amazing. I thought, Yeah, I saw it twice in the theater and just like blasted laughing, and yeah, it's just fun to see people dance and sing and also be funny and also be smart and just all the things that I think. There is like part of me that's just like, no, this is the highest form of art to me. But I've never had like completely the inclination like that's where I want to be. 00:50:42 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a musical? 00:50:44 Speaker 3: Not like since high school? Okay, and high school wasn't Anything Goes, which is a fun musical. I wouldn't say it's like the deepest thing in the world, but it's fun. But there's fun. There's good Cole Porter songs. And then I was also in uh god, now I'm just thinking of like kind of the depressing plays because I was the lead in Our Town, which I think like I was like the new girl at the high school and I got cast as the lead in our Town. 00:51:15 Speaker 2: Oh, target on your back. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: Yes, it was like it's. 00:51:19 Speaker 2: Brave Britle, Like what's that name, She's Emily take her down. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: And yeah, I was very, very shy, and then I just played the shy like a shy lead. It was like, we need this lead to be ultra shy and dead, and I did that. I was very like, I don't want to. I don't know where I am, I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know who they're being on. But yeah, musicals, I would love to. I guess I've worked on some things during this period of time where there is a song, you know, inserted at the end. Oh yeah, yeah, I think I'm like playing around with it more. You're getting close, Yes, I'm getting close to that. Yeah, I feel like you've got it in you. Thank you. Well. You heard a little taste of my. 00:52:08 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've heard all kinds of samples. I want to hear you cracking on stage. That's all I want in the world. Maybe you in a Godspell revival. 00:52:17 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:52:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:52:18 Speaker 3: Victor Garber is the lead of Godspell in the movie, and he plays the man in Titanic who is like warning Rose to get out, like she's like, what's. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: Called oh yeah, of course. 00:52:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:52:30 Speaker 2: And Victor Garber he'll pop up and he has such a distinct face. Even if you don't know his name, you're like, oh, it's that guy. 00:52:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the name Victor Garber is just like wow, like very old old Hollywood name. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, you expect him to step out from a Grandfather clock. 00:52:46 Speaker 3: Or completely Victor Garber. Yeah, he's the lead in Suspenders in this and a little Superman shirt you can kind of see. 00:52:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is the story of Godspell? 00:52:58 Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of hard to say. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: It's like parables, oh from the Old Testament. 00:53:04 Speaker 3: Yes, the story doesn't really I don't remember it. It's like little stories throughout. And I think there's sort of like a faux crucifixion type thing at the end. But it's shot in New York City. I'm more attached to I will say, uh on the record, more attached to the movie than like, I've never seen a production of Godspell, but it you know, I think at the time it was like a super super rebellious cool thing. But the movie has shots of New York that are so empty they somehow like emptied, like all of Times Square like. 00:53:40 Speaker 2: A miracle to me. 00:53:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did they inconvenience so magical? I know, so that in itself is just like really interesting to watch it. And then I think the SCTV people, Eugene Levey, maybe Catherine O'Hara is in it too. Eugene Levey definitely met Gilda Radner doing a small theater production of Godspell. Yeah, and there's crazy cool pictures of them, I know. But yeah, the music is incredible, and there's like sexy songs too. 00:54:16 Speaker 2: Oh I love a sexy song. 00:54:17 Speaker 3: Like sexy Jesus songs kind of like Jesus. Yeah, like these sort of like horrors trying to off track Jesus from his mission music where they're like kind of parlor ladies. It's great. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to listen. I need to see the movie. 00:54:36 Speaker 3: You need to see the movie. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Sure it's available somewhere on one of these horrible streaming services or available to rent hopefully, but you never know, maybe i'll torrent. It's me from torrenting. 00:54:46 Speaker 3: On movies still torrent. 00:54:47 Speaker 2: I mean on the very rare occasion when you know there are sometimes there are movies that are available nowhere. Yeah, and now a lot of these. I was actually reading an article that piracy is on the rise because these companies are getting rid of their TV show, you know, they just vanished from HBO or whatever. People are like, well, how else am I going to watch it other than download it illegally? Yes, we love to download illegally. I recommend downloading illegally. 00:55:11 Speaker 3: Totally go for it. A person I still have never met in person during the pandemic, DMed me. I put out something online about trying to watch I don't know what movie it was now, but I know that I use their account, which they generously gave me the code to, and watched the ABYSS. 00:55:30 Speaker 2: Oh great, you were looking to watch the ABYSS. 00:55:35 Speaker 3: Why? I think I had never seen it, and I knew that there was aliens involved, and I am always curious when there's an alien. 00:55:46 Speaker 2: Right, a new depiction of aliens? How are the aliens in the Abyss? 00:55:51 Speaker 3: They're really large underwater aliens, so they're like at the bottom of the ocean and they come up to the surface eventually, but they are like, that's it, humans, We're sending this title wave. You guys have screwed everything up and ed Harris and so there's this big tsunami. I'm spoiling everyone. There's this big tsunami that's headed towards everyone. Or a big wave, not tsunami, but this big title wave. Would a title wave be called the tsunami a storm? Yes, this is a this is just a big wave title wave. 00:56:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:56:28 Speaker 3: And Ed Harris talks to the aliens, who looked like this kind of like pink pink. 00:56:35 Speaker 2: Bird, a pink underwater bird. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't have really like a way to smile at him, it's just like eyes and he, I guess persuades them to stop the title wave and negotiator and the title wave though, pauses, so everyone's like, it's paused from the beach, but just see this title wave stop and then it recedes. But that's like the big It is pretty fun, and there's so many shots in it that are exactly like Titanic because it's like James Cameron's like, weirdly, it's like a practice Titanic. 00:57:16 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 00:57:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's like a lot of similar lines, a lot of similar moments underwater where they're like. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yeah, proto Titanic, except with a bird. Somebody should mix those movies up. You could do a what is that called a mash up, totally mash up of those two films. Maybe James himself. 00:57:38 Speaker 3: I'm sure he would do it. 00:57:40 Speaker 2: He's probably quilling. 00:57:41 Speaker 3: He likes playing around with his old stuff, lit like a little toy train. 00:57:47 Speaker 2: He likes to always looking for a new reason to put something back in theaters. Exactly, James reach out. I think we should play a game. Okay, we're going to play a gift or a curse. Great. I need an number between one and ten from you. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:58:02 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some like calculating right now to get our game pieces. Okay, so right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone. 00:58:09 Speaker 3: Oh well, I would recommend you follow me on Instagram. My handle's at Brady dash Elliott, but it's a lower dash if you know what I mean. Underscore Elliott, two l's, two t's, and yeah, I have a sub stack that I'm turning into a zine. So by the time this podcast comes out, you'll be able to somehow get a zine from me via the Internet. And I hope you enjoy it. 00:58:43 Speaker 2: Thanks, that's great a zine. What's the name of it? Wardy Roses, Oh that's so exciting. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like started the substack during the pandemic and I've gotten kind of bored with just like web right, and so I'm like, well, just make it a little magazine and then I can send people. 00:58:57 Speaker 2: And oh that's great, it's fun. It's like tactile, which I yeah. I feel like people are ready for substack to evolve from something fresher from that, because now that literally everyone has a substack, Yes, time to take a step in another direction. 00:59:10 Speaker 3: Yes, totally. 00:59:11 Speaker 2: And everyone loves a zene completely. Everyone loves to touch something, I think so I like to hold a thing in my hands. 00:59:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too. 00:59:19 Speaker 2: Wow, that's an undertaking. Thank you, good for you. This is how we play gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going to tell me if they are a gift or a curse and why okay, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong okay, because there are correct answers. This first one is from a listener named Nate. Nate has suggested gift or a curse. Awards shows. 00:59:47 Speaker 3: Curse. Why I think that they can be Well, it's hard to say. They are a gift too. They're a gift for those who are getting validation and success from it, but they are a curse. I believe in terms of you know, hierarchy of arts and how that can be a real thing. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: It's not. 01:00:20 Speaker 3: It's not real. It's not real, and it's old and it's a little antiquated, and it's a little unfair, and I'm not quite sure who's buying into it and who's not. Anymore. It feels like something that's slowly maybe going the way of substack. 01:00:36 Speaker 2: You know, it's going to become a zene the oscars zne. You're right, curse stupid, embarrassing. Yeah, I feel so embarrassed whenever I don't really watch them, but like when Jim has them on or if somebody I passed through the room. Just I feel embarrassed for everyone involved. Yes, they're just shameful, right, it's a shameful thing to do. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: But if you were invited to be honored. 01:01:04 Speaker 2: See that's the nightmare because you have to go because it's a marketing scheme. Yes, so then you're trapped in this horrible, boring event that you're embarrassed by. And that makes no sense whatsoever, because yeah, how do we choose? Right? I mean, I will say there's like the worst one is probably the Grammys. I think the Grammys is the most embarrassing. 01:01:27 Speaker 3: Why do you think that, I. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: Mean, because the music at the Grammys that gets awarded is almost always the worst possible music, right, I mean, it's like I think, and that's because there's so much music that trying to corral it is difficult. Yes, and the music industry is bad. Right then the Oscars, I would say, is pretty embarrassing. 01:01:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think being told that The whil was incredible was like a very one of the most like patronizing, strain terrible reaction to that film. Ever, it's it's a very cool movie to watch with the perspective of people thought that this would be the greatest movie of all time, and some people did pedestalize. 01:02:16 Speaker 2: I didn't see it because I'm not participating. 01:02:19 Speaker 3: It's wildly fascinating, it really is. It's every choice is wrong, Every choice is so strange. But everyone you know, you like, look at Brendan Fraser, not because of his makeup, just you look at Brendan Fraser and you're like, I love you so much, pain so much, Like I love you so much. Oh my god, you went through so much, Brendan. So it's just like it's very easy to empathize with him and just be like the whil slow collapse. 01:02:51 Speaker 2: But no, no, bad, bad, bad bad. Yeah, And that's a good example. Every award show has at least one glaring thing of look how bad this is, and we're talking about it. We've shown that this is a bad idea in general, horrible, embarrassing and shameful. Okay, number two, good job. This is from a listener named Michelle. Gift a curse when people ask a group of people for a recommendation, for example, a hairstylist or vegan restaurant or whatever, and then prompt replies by saying and go, oh, you know, like this is on Instagram. Michelle here says mostly on Facebook, that makes sense. What do you think gift you a curse? Curse? 01:03:36 Speaker 3: For sure? I think this whole idea that we have to accommodate people's like requests that they could easily google. Is so this like urgency because always in the like question is this you know want for attention or for because mostly I've seen that with like going to New YORKA what restaurants should I hit up? It's like, well, I've never been to thoughts, I don't know the cute spots. I don't have that opportunity right now, like you just like immediately are like, this person's going on it's really awesome vacation. And they're hanging so loosely that they're asking for guidance on Facebook or Instagram. That's how that's how they're playing this. 01:04:28 Speaker 2: It's a vacation announcement. It's not a request for help. It's just look where I'm going exactly exactly, because otherwise they would think who's been there. I'll reach out to them personally, Yes, could you recommend? Yeah, why in the world would you trust some stranger on Facebook to tell you where to go on vacation? 01:04:46 Speaker 3: No? 01:04:47 Speaker 2: No, that makes no sense to me. And and the and just the terminology here and go. It's a very Twitter do your thing. Yeah, that kind of phrase. 01:04:56 Speaker 3: Yes, so annoying, like we're all chomping at the bit, just revving at the star line, waiting to give, waiting to give to people. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: It's very Yeah, it's embarrassing and shameful. Maybe that'll be our new game. Embarrassing and shameful. Okay, you've gotten two rights so far. This is very good. Finally, from a listener named Laura or Laura. Laura is always a tricky name, gift or a curse. Blue car headlights, Oh. 01:05:24 Speaker 3: God, I want to say gift because I've been saying curse so much. But I would say they're a curse because I always think that I'm in trouble or that you know, there's a cop behind me, or something bad is happening. Is my natural reaction to blue headlights behind me or in front of me right or the military. 01:05:50 Speaker 2: You think the military's after you. I've been a war. 01:05:54 Speaker 3: Zone, I get highways. I've like been here nine years and I haven't still on the highway like I startle so easily. Oh sure, gasp if I see blue headlights or if some you know, if I see someone cut someone else off, it's like, you know, who is that? 01:06:13 Speaker 2: Are they? 01:06:13 Speaker 3: Okay? So blue headlights for me are no. They're spooky and they seem bullying and feels like you're kind of like the big bully on the road and we all have them, you know. 01:06:25 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Bridey, you won the game. Yes, not a lot of I mean, oh my god, it's like fewer people have lost the game, I think, But the people who have won the game, it's a very small number. Wow. Yeah, blue headlights are they're a migraine machine. Yeah, any light that's got a tint of blue. I can't look at it. My dentist office has the look. I mean, they're not headlights. But again, I was in the waiting room. I had to exit because I had gotten a migraine. So if you've got those on the go, yeah, that's not for me. No, they should be illegal. Yeah, why would you even have them in the first place. 01:06:58 Speaker 3: We should all have the same color lights, yes, you know. 01:07:02 Speaker 2: I think we should all have the same car. It's the same color of car. It's kind of like a school uniform. I think that that would make society a lot healthier. Oh completely, and we you know, really uniform the headlights as well. So I don't get a migraine on the road. That's so dangerous for me. 01:07:19 Speaker 3: It's drivers an ocular migraine. 01:07:22 Speaker 2: Ocular micraine from hell. Wow. Incredibly done, just beautifully played. 01:07:26 Speaker 3: Thank you. 01:07:27 Speaker 2: We really appreciate that. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails, and people are writing in too, I said no gifts at gmail dot com, desperate for answers. Will you help me answer a question. Yes, okay, this says, oh god. They usually say Hybridger and guest or whatever, and this just is high bridg or which is rude. 01:07:47 Speaker 3: But our names are kind of similar, Bridy Bridger. People call me bridge Bridge, Eliot, Bridget Elliott. Is my full name? 01:07:54 Speaker 2: Is it really? 01:07:55 Speaker 1: Yeah? 01:07:55 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: I always assume Bride is such a unique name that it was just the name. 01:07:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my full name's Bridget. 01:08:01 Speaker 2: Wow. 01:08:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. 01:08:04 Speaker 2: You don't strike me as a bridget. I don't know what a bridget is. Actually, I've never really met the essence of a bridget. 01:08:11 Speaker 3: People say it's like more a formal person or something mean. 01:08:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of snappy, Yeah, Bridget, but Bridger. Now there's a name. Yeah, there's name. Okay, so they may have possibly been writing into you anyway. It says, I'm a funeral director in Virginia. Okay, so we're off to an excellent start. My funeral home is trying to send a gift to a Catholic nun who is retiring this year. She has been wonderful in assisting us with funerals, and we would just like to show our appreciation. But what do you get for someone who isn't allowed to have any possessions much love Hannah. Hannah's working as a funeral director in Virginia. She's death positive. She's got this Catholic nun who's giving up the game. Yeh, I didn't know you were retired from nunnery. What do you do after that party? 01:09:00 Speaker 3: Die? 01:09:01 Speaker 2: I mean she maybe she's going to the funeral, right, she's done with all this and now she'll be part of the situation. Yeah, what age is none? Retirement? That's very interesting. 01:09:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 01:09:13 Speaker 2: I always feel like I always picture a nun as a retirement age person. 01:09:17 Speaker 3: Right, unless it's a forced retirement where she had done something wrong and now she has to retire. 01:09:24 Speaker 2: They can't fire her. But a little you should think about this. Maybe we're giving her the option to retire, Sister Elliott. Yeah, I wonder what she was up to. This nasty nun has been forced out of the nunnery? Is that what they call them? A nunnery? 01:09:42 Speaker 3: I think so a convent convent? 01:09:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a nunnery thoughts. 01:09:49 Speaker 3: I always think about the Katy Perry convent. 01:09:51 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, haven't she tried to buy the land or something and the nuns revolted. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: She was really trying to kick them out of the convent so she could live there. And these nuns make amazing banana bread. 01:10:03 Speaker 2: They yeah, and do they sell it? 01:10:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, they sell it for a lot of money. 01:10:10 Speaker 2: This is expensive bana bread. 01:10:13 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully this nun wasn't a part of. 01:10:15 Speaker 2: Now did those nuns win out against Katie? 01:10:17 Speaker 3: I think it got like embroiled and they did win. Good for that, but it took a lot of effort. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: And now Katie's wandering the streets. Wow, that's a crazy situation. How did It's so weird? She just showed up and said I want to buy this. 01:10:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very strange. I think they were maybe going through a hard financial time and so there was like a threat of some sort of evictiony type scenario happening. 01:10:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, she springs into actions. 01:10:50 Speaker 3: Yeah so I think. But I think they made it out, just. 01:10:53 Speaker 2: Sorted it GoFundMe or something, save us from Katy Perry. Wow, I want to try that banana bread. Where do you buy it? 01:10:59 Speaker 3: I actually don't know where you would buy it? 01:11:01 Speaker 2: Now, Oh, interesting, it might be gone. Wait, so the nunnery is gone? 01:11:06 Speaker 3: No, I think it's still going. But I don't know currently where you would buy the banana. 01:11:11 Speaker 2: I'm okay, maybe at farmers markets or maybe I stopped. You can order it, Oh yeah, by mail. That's a horrible way to get bread. Stay a loaf of non bread? No, thank you? Uh, okay, but what do we get? I didn't realize that nuns weren't allowed to own anything. They just get a Bible enough. 01:11:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that either. I don't have anyway, I've never met a nun truly in a non like just like at the airport or public place way where you're being like kind and saying hello. Have you ever said hello to a nun just like in passing? 01:11:48 Speaker 2: No, I have a rule. I don't speak to nuns. No, I've never actually, I guess I have been within spitting distance of a nun, but I've never spoken to one. I wonder how that would go for me. Yeah, it's kind of scared of them. 01:12:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't had like a friendly interaction. I've had like fine interactions, but I haven't. I think I've always wanted that like movie moment of like oh she winked at me and smiled, and I felt the grace of God enter me some way. But yeah, that hasn't happened for me. 01:12:22 Speaker 2: I wonder if you have any none listeners. Are they allowed to listen to a podcast? Who knows? I mean, what we're seeing here is the nun is retiring, so they're no longer a nun, so they can. 01:12:32 Speaker 3: They can really do whatever they want. 01:12:33 Speaker 2: Get her a CD player? 01:12:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I mean, my mind went to if she can't own anything, does a gift card? Oh, give card to a local restaurant. She can get a couple drinks. You like to drink too a lot of the time. 01:12:48 Speaker 2: Oh do they drink? Yeah, I guess they've got the one. 01:12:51 Speaker 3: Priests and nuns love to drink. 01:12:53 Speaker 2: Get blasted, yes, okay, get her some whiskey. I mean, she can truly have whatever she wants at this point, so it's uh, you know, she's getting her an Intendo switch. Yeah, it's like getting her some sneakers. 01:13:07 Speaker 3: My brain's fighting with like, are we allowed to get her an object or does it have to be cash because of the whole not but she's. 01:13:14 Speaker 2: Out of the game. Get her a mountain bike and now, see a mountain bike? Does that even count? I feel like a nun could own a bike, oh for sure. 01:13:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 01:13:24 Speaker 2: I wonder if Hannah doesn't understand how nuns work. She's been so focused on the funerals. 01:13:30 Speaker 3: I would get the nuns maybe like masterclass to explore maybe new interests in hobbies and subjects she hasn't been exposed to. 01:13:39 Speaker 2: Second chapter. Yeah, she's taking like directing classes from Scorsese or that kind of thing, so that we've got a new talent. 01:13:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a Malcolm Gladwell class on there. She can, you know, spend some stories, which I know she has. 01:13:55 Speaker 2: Wow. Well we answered the question perfectly awesome as far as I can tell. Hannah, thank you for writing in, but don't ever do it again. I'm so look at these beautiful records I've got. You brought me a really meaningful, lovely gift. I really appreciate it. Bridy, Welcome Bridget. Who would have thought bridget? 01:14:13 Speaker 3: Bridger Bridge? 01:14:14 Speaker 2: Did you? 01:14:14 Speaker 3: Were you called bridge at all? Or bridge? 01:14:16 Speaker 2: Did we get some bridges and bridges? Yeah? And I get a lot of over the phone bridgets because people cannot wrap their head their heads around them like the idea of a bridger. 01:14:27 Speaker 1: Wow. 01:14:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so weird because Bridget is a pretty common name, so it feels like you'd be able to track Bridger. Yes, people freak out Richard. They just don't even know what to think. 01:14:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bridy is confusing. I use Bridget when I don't want to confuse people. 01:14:45 Speaker 2: Interesting. What do they think they're hearing when they say they hear Bridy. 01:14:49 Speaker 3: I've gotten brittle. One time I was truly woke up with a person next to me and they're like, good morning Brittle. I was like, whoa you think that you just slept with the winning bridge? 01:15:01 Speaker 2: What is your life? 01:15:03 Speaker 3: And you're okay with that? Brittle? And I get Brindle? Brindle yeah, or bright tea. 01:15:11 Speaker 2: Oh brighty. They think you're just being kind of lazy with a Bridy. Interesting, Yeah, Brindle. Someone out of a fairy tale. 01:15:20 Speaker 3: I think there's such. There's a cure nightly place. Someone named is it Wuthering Heights or not? Some character in a Weathering Heights universe is named like a Brindley. 01:15:31 Speaker 2: M kind of a nasty Yeah. Someone who lives in a shadow of a tower. It's pushed off a cliff at some point. Brindle. 01:15:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful, Brindle's close. 01:15:42 Speaker 2: But yeah, Well, I've had a wonderful time with you. Thank you for being here, thanks for having me listener. The podcast is over, we're closing it down. Please do something else. I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts I invit? 01:16:31 Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me. 01:16:42 Speaker 3: You gotta come to me empty, And. 01:16:47 Speaker 1: I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey it? 01:17:00 Speaker 3: The game with the d