1 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: H'm Marv. Hi Kelly, how are you doing this month? 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: As we record on the day before this really big 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: full moon? 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Is it the day before the podcast. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Will come out? Yeah, the podcast will come out on 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: the day of the tourist full moon. And I have 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: been feeling it, yeah, is it? 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you know, the way the new moon 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: starts is you know, when we started this, it was 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: easy to record at the beginning of the month because 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: the new moon was near the beginning of the month. 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: And now the new moon is closer to the end 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: of the month and has crossed that line. So it's 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: more of understanding on a monthly basis. And what I 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: try to do is tell you what you're working on 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: from the new moon that happened, Like leiber new moon 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: was on the twenty first, Okay, so we didn't get 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: to the new moon yet, so we've had two weeks 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: of the new moon. But you have to understand, the 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: new moon is the energy of the month, and so yes, 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: the full moon comes out, but what the full moon 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: is showing you is what the energy you've been working 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: on is now elucidated. It's now become clear, and it's 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: out into the public. Okay, so that's the way the 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: cycle works. And one of the reasons that I wrote 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: left the eclipse in there is because I still wanted 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: to go back and remind people, because I don't think 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: we make enough understanding of that. When you say we 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: had an eclipse, Well, it's a six month energy. And 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: so when I saw what I had written, and the 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: main words were recognizing the worldly conditions and maintaining your 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: one's inner purpose footing that's going to be exactly what 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about today, and maintain the 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: focus in the midst of chaos. Well, that's a six 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: month process, and so I think that's important to be 36 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: constantly reminded of that, or not constantly, but every now 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: and then be reminded of that that you know, we 38 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: are under the eclipse and the strong one of the 39 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: strongest points in a chart is the eclipse point. So 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: when I looked at the new moon in Libra, look 41 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: at my first statement, there is reached an entirely new 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: level of consciousness. How many months have I been banging 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: on that, Well, I'm going to bang on it even harder, 44 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell you why we have got 45 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: to see through the collective delusions and demand for a 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: radical restructuring of society. So, you know, I've come to 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: an understanding. You know, I think too much emphasis has 48 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: been placed on one man, and I think that he 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: is the perfect man for the job that needs to 50 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: be done for this social structure in society. And that's 51 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: how I can eliminate getting caught up in all the 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: news media and the coverage and all of that stuff 53 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: and the things that he does and says, because he's 54 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: not even important. It's a much, much bigger And I'm 55 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: going to get into telling you why. So we need 56 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: to understand that the relationships that we are in are 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: an exact mirror of who we are, and we don't 58 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: place enough importance on that. And in a Librinu moon, 59 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: that's pretty dagnone important because there is no greater relationship 60 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: than lead. It is what Libra is. It is relationships. Now, 61 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: the energy pattern that we had this month was a 62 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: square from Pluto Jupiter to that new moon. Well, Pluto 63 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: is transformation. It's transformation, and it transmutes our ego that 64 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: is connected to old past patterns, fears, guilt, and self 65 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: sabotage of the past. Jupiter is the expansion process and 66 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: it's the outer growth and the manifestation of abundance. But 67 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: before we get to that manifestation and abundance, we have 68 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: to come clear with our fears, guilts, doubts, shames and judgments. 69 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: And that's the relationship that's so so very important. And 70 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: of course as we look at the new moon, look 71 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: what I say, it's the evolution of consciousness. Now I've 72 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: already mentioned that twice and the energy pattern and this 73 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: is the big deal for the whole month, and it's 74 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: going to be the big deal for the next five months. 75 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: Is Saturn conjuncts Neptune at the last degrees of Pisces. 76 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: So let's explain that second. Saturn is your structure of 77 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: reality on the macro cosm and the microcosm, how you 78 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: have structured your life, how you build your life, and 79 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: your reality is Saturn. That is the foundation and the 80 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: physical reality of form. Well, Neptune is the spiritual reality 81 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: of universal consciousness where everything is possible. Neptune is imagination, 82 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: it's delusion, it's a fog. It is the antithesis of 83 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: structure reality. They are conjunct and they will be conjunct 84 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: all the way until March. Now, what does this mean 85 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: in the larger context? I tell you we have got 86 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: to get to the place to where we trust nothing. 87 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: You might as well just get in your mind beliefs 88 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: that you have held, beliefs that is being projected out 89 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: into the world are all lies. There is nothing to believe. 90 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: You do not know nor do you see all the 91 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: workings that's going on behind the scenes. 92 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Well do you think that people are starting to kind 93 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: of recognize that? 94 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: Right? 95 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Like, that's a big thing you see on social media nowadays. 96 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: Is nobody trusts anything that anyone is saying, the government, 97 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: the news, There's all these conspiracy theories, And for me, 98 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: it started to really open my brain up to that. 99 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: So it sounds like right on time as per usual. 100 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: But I think we are seeing there's there's a lot 101 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: going on secretly, or all these people are being exposed 102 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: for bad behavior that we haven't known about in the 103 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: past when they became very successful or things like that, 104 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and it just seems to be happening over and over 105 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: and over. It's like an uncovering is the word that 106 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: keeps coming into my brain. 107 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Well, and but you can't even consider the uncovering as 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: being factual. Okay, so that's kind of what I'm saying. 109 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: There are no facts. Get rid of the concept of 110 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: facts in your mind that forge a belief. There's nothing 111 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: to believe. 112 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Then what are we wake up every day? You're making 113 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: that like you. 114 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: Wake up every day. Yeah, here we go again, back 115 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: into consciousness of one moment at a time and listening 116 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: to intuition and feelings. If you are not defining your 117 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: life my feelings and intuition, well then you're not living 118 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: in the moment, and we are all raising consciousness. I 119 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: tell you, what I've noticed on the TikTok is that 120 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: more awakened people are putting out information that is very, 121 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: very good, and it's more of them. I mean, I'm 122 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: literally stunned. I used to have to be part of 123 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: a conference of metaphysics and all of that stuff to 124 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: get that kind of abundance of people that we're working 125 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: on a higher level of consciousness. And now that is shifting. 126 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: And so when you take that that shifting is a 127 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: that's a wake up call in and of itself, well 128 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: the other level of consciousness. 129 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Yes and no, because the end I mean, I agree 130 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: with you, yes, but I think to your point actually 131 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: about not believing anything. The interesting thing for me has 132 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: been over the past couple of years. You know, I 133 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: would say that I feel like I've been on a 134 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: spiritual journey for a while, and I have noticed over 135 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: the past couple of years the rise of somewhat I mean, 136 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: maybe you could call it the guru, the expert, that 137 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: all these things talking more about these spiritual concepts. But 138 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: I think it's been interesting the last maybe this has 139 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: been six months to a year. I have even found 140 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: myself feeling very fed up with certain voices or narratives 141 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: or people speaking out because there's this whole other thing 142 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: happening where they're becoming the person that's worshiped, and I'm like, 143 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: that's so contradictory of anything spiritual or of the things 144 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: that they're trying to teach. And so it's this really 145 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: weird like back and forth of what can you trust, 146 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: what can you learn from avenues like that? And then 147 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: what do we need to step back from and really 148 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: use discernment on about giving our energy over into like 149 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: idolizing another human if that makes Does that make sense? 150 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Like do you see where I'm bumping up against a 151 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: little bit, Like I'm almost fed up? No, but I 152 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: do feel like that's kind of what gets well, and I'll. 153 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Take it a step further. Listening to other people's opinions 154 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: and conversations. 155 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because that's the other thing I'm getting fed 156 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: up with. It's like there really is no one size 157 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: fits all in this world. Like every single human is 158 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: here on their own specific journey. So how are we 159 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: going to try to tell someone how to go live 160 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: their life? You can't map it out for anyone else. 161 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: You can help, you know, help people find their path, 162 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: but it's their path still. 163 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: As long as they're asking you for help, and. 164 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: If they're asking you right exactly. 165 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: Longly, if they're asking yeah. 166 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Because a lot of times offering it up and that's really. 167 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Yea, the moment you offer up a conversation is when 168 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: you start getting yourself in trouble. 169 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: Well, it's just you have to be asked. Yeah. 170 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: And that's going to take us right in segue right 171 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: into the next things that I want to talk about. Okay, 172 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got not only do you have to 173 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: separate the wheat from the shaft as far as seeing 174 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: things and seeing reality as you see it and staying 175 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: in the moment, because it's building individuality, which builds consciousness. 176 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: Your consciousness. You know. I always go back to Kristiana 177 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: Murdy who said transformations starts with one. You have to understand, 178 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: and as we've gotten into quantum theory, you have to 179 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: understand you, Kelly, your individual influence and vibration. It changes 180 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: the whole structure of the world. Just think of that, 181 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: and every person is like that. But we need individual Kelly. 182 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: We don't need Kelly that's been misled, misconstrued, conditioned and 183 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: programmed by anybody else because we've lost Kelly. That's what 184 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: I call soul fragmentation in my book. I don't want 185 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: you to lose Kelly. I want Kelly. And so this 186 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: is very important because we got to puta Pluto Jupiter 187 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: t squaring Venus at the full boon, which means lessons 188 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: around relationships, fairness, values, and self worth and discovering personal 189 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: limitations and then go beyond. So in other words, we're 190 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: reading who we are through our relationships to other people, 191 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: and then we move beyond them by changing our conditioning 192 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: and programming and belief in ourself. And so we lessen 193 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: that whole fragmentation process. When you have a uranus opposing 194 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: Mercury and Mars. Now we've got constructive action rather than 195 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: rebellion or verbal confrontation. So we certainly are going to 196 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: be facing that over the next couple of weeks. So 197 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: you're going to be challenged. How wonderful is that going 198 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: to be? When you got a mercury retrograde that's coming 199 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: up in a few days and a juven retrograde that's 200 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: coming up in a few days. 201 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: I think I knew about the Jupiter retrogram. 202 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: Right, and that a bigger deal than mercury. Trust me. 203 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: Jupiter is higher consciousness, and it's freedom, and it's it's 204 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: your intuition. It's how we tap into that higher consciousness. 205 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Here we go with consciousness again, and so when we're 206 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: looking at this mercury retrograde, it's the excitement and fun 207 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: of one's life versus allowing disasters to suppress your passions. 208 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: You start getting into the macro causem and thinking of 209 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: all the chaos and all the crap that's going on, Well, 210 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: that can certainly suppress your passions, suppress your enjoyment of life. 211 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: I have a question, so are you saying that there's 212 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: a theme to this specific mercury retrograde that's about finding 213 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: excitement and fun in one's life and allowing disaster and 214 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to stop allowing disasters to suppress our passions. 215 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: Well, think about it, it's in Sagittarius. What is the 216 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: most fun loving? 217 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: For sure? 218 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: The party hanging off the highwear highwear, screaming with a 219 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: drink in her hand in one hand. Yeah, then Sagittarius, 220 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: no for sure. Okay, So the reflection and. 221 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: So let's break this down for the listeners though before 222 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: you move on, because mercury retrograde comes for us to 223 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: pause and review typically like it gets such a bad 224 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: wrap and pop astrology, and so we try to talk 225 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: about that here on this podcast, which is that it's 226 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: really a time for review and it often involves like 227 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: our communication technology things like that because it's mercury, right, 228 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: is that right? 229 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 230 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So then this specific one is asking us to 231 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: rever you where in our life are we not allowing 232 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: ourselves to find excitement in allowing disasters to suppress our passions? 233 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: And the ending comes when mercury goes direct. Okay, that's 234 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: what we need to learn, and what do we need 235 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: to learn follow the impulses of the moment, when following 236 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: the conditioning and the pattering of what it's looked like fun, 237 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: So you're repeating it. I guess that's the best way 238 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: for me to say it. 239 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: That's a great way to say it. So it's like, 240 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: is it really lighting you up? Or have you just 241 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: been doing it so long that it's habit and like 242 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: you can't convince yourself that's fun, but like is it 243 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: really fun for you? Are you really enjoying it? And what? 244 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: And then the follow up to that is tuning out 245 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: the expectations of others. In other words, a great metaphor 246 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: for this smirky retrograde is cocktail party exchanges. Small What 247 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: does that say to you? 248 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: Small talk? That's all? 249 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: And I can't I'm not getting into no heavy stuff 250 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: with anybody. 251 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't care to either. It's gotten so much harder 252 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: for me as I've gotten older. I just don't care 253 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: to do it. 254 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: As you've gotten wiser, swing that's not older, that's God. 255 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: You've gotten wiser and you're following a more intuitive spiritual track, 256 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: which gives makes you a little more lonelier because you 257 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: have less people to speak to. Yeah, so you have to, 258 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, have small talk. But at this point and 259 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: when as soon as I get the Jupiter retrograde in 260 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: a moment, you understand why. Okay, So you've got to 261 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: let me understand the divine order behind all things. That's 262 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: the final message to mark retrograde, understanding there's always a 263 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: divine order to things. So why judge it, why criticize it, 264 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: why form a belief out of it? 265 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 266 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: It just is what it is. 267 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: It is. I was going to say the same thing, yeah. 268 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, and so cocktail party communications. And then when we 269 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: go into the Jupiter retrograde, the answer is diplomatic conversations. Well, 270 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: have you ever heard a reality come out of a 271 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: diplomat's mouth? 272 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: No, I'm very much these notes, if I'm being honest. 273 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: So when you're looking at Jupiter retrograde, when I go 274 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: to Jupiter retrograde, for people, the first sentence is learning 275 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part of 276 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: or believed in, and deal only with reality with the 277 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: natural intuitive focus. I don't know how to say it 278 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: any better than that. 279 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Well I didn't understand that, So could you say it again? 280 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Say it one more time? Read it one more time. 281 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: I hont to see if I can get it or 282 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: ask the right question. 283 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: Learning to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part 284 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: of or believed in, and deal only with the reality 285 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: from natural, intuitive focus and voice. 286 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: So it's what you were saying at the beginning of 287 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. 288 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: It's constant. It's a repeated theme this whole month. 289 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: Got it. 290 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: It's about higher consciousness. And you know, I've been hollering 291 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: about this, or I've been talking about this. 292 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: We could call it. 293 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm just passionate about trying to get 294 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: a message. Ross that's a better way to say it, Okay, 295 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, And so that's the point. 296 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: It's balancing social stability with individual freedom. I just got 297 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: off with a zoom with my last client. It's about individuality. 298 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: It's about individuality. You are on your own, your beliefs, 299 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: your reality, everything is about you. That's what's important to understand. 300 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: And so when I looked at the chart of the 301 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: Jupiter retrograde, it's got to Uranus squares the moon. So 302 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: you're fluctuating moods, and everybody's fluctuating moods, especially politicians and 303 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: everybody else that operate off of a whim or say 304 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: things out of a whim, or just say things off 305 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: the cuff. These things cause confusion. So stay out of 306 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: the moodiness. I mean, that's like, you know, partnerships getting 307 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: in bad moods and you're going, what's wrong with you? Yeah, Oh, 308 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm just in a bad mood. And tell me that 309 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: don't interfere with your energy and the influence of your vibration. 310 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: Certainly it does, right. 311 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: So what are you saying to do? Because I feel 312 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: like there was something at the beginning of the podcast 313 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: where you said to really lean into like the feelings 314 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: and to act out of that place, and to act 315 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: out of the place. I can't trying to find where 316 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: it was, but living moment to moment. So now what 317 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you're saying is confusing me because I feel like it's contrau. 318 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to confuse you, because what I'm telling 319 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: you to do is stay out of the emotions. When 320 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: somebody act operates from a mood that causes an emotion 321 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: that's not a feelings somebody else's moods and fluctuating circumstances 322 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: and things they say that very much can influence your mood. 323 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: So we're back to the same argument about feelings. 324 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: And well, it's not an argument, it's just it's just 325 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: the way it is. 326 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying that the reason I'm getting confused 327 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: is the same. We've already had this discussion, so we 328 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: don't need to have it again. But it's yeah, so 329 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get that at all. Like I 330 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: to me when you say feelings and emotions, and we've 331 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: already had this conversation, but they are they're like this, 332 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: and so I'm getting confused on what are we feelings? 333 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Feelings are not like this. Feelings are moment to moment. 334 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: You feel physical senses. That's it. 335 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what I'm saying when I do this 336 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: up and down, it's moment to moment, so they change. 337 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: So life is changing. Yeah, but see, you don't have 338 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: to be in an emotion every moment mm hmm. Emotion 339 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: is caused by an outside circumstance that you would either 340 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: connect to or you don't. 341 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: I guess I'm confused. But how are we supposed to like, 342 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: I think, to pay attention to ourselves. Intuitively, moment to 343 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: moment is a confusing message in contrast to but don't 344 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: act out of what you're feeling moments moment. Does that 345 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: make sense where I'm confused? 346 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you confused me. 347 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: Cheers to that. We're all confusion. 348 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: You wanted to do that, you did it? 349 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: No, that's what's happening in my brain. It doesn't. I 350 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: feel like those are contradicting messages, like do we act 351 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: out of what we feel moments a moment? Do we 352 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: trust that? Or do we sit back? 353 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: Because if you act out, that's an emotion. You act 354 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: out because you're in love with someone, don't you. 355 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I get it. 356 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: What do you mean you don't get it? 357 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: Okay? 358 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: Of course you love someone, It's an emotion. It fills 359 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: you up. 360 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: The dude do anger, that's an easier one. So if 361 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: someone cuts me off in when I'm driving, it makes 362 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: me mad. So if I right the way I'm interpreting this, 363 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: the last thing you said is don't you know go 364 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: road rage and go hit their car with my car 365 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: or something like don't act out of that place, but 366 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: in the place earlier I was. I'm confusing the two 367 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: messages because what you said earlier was to go moment 368 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: to moment with how we feel. Intuitively, like right, so 369 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: let me let. 370 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Me take that analogy. Somebody cuts you off, you get 371 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: you get a moment of rage, you want to run 372 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: them over with a tank, and then you go, you 373 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: know what, I've done the same thing. It's all right, 374 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: I give him a break and then you got it. 375 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: The emotion settles back down. Okay, you get back into 376 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: the center. You know what I do actually always come 377 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: back into the center. 378 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: The thing I do in road rage, just for anyone 379 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: who might struggle with that, or when you get pissed 380 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: at people, if I always go okay, like if I 381 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: got stopped or someone cut me off and I had 382 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: to slow down, what is the universe telling me? Like 383 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: why do I need to slow down? There's something like 384 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: am I in touch with myself? Or am I just 385 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: driving down the road not paying attention to anything like 386 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: that sounds kind of woo woo, But there's always a 387 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: lesson in every single thing that happens. Like if we're 388 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: stuck in traffic, be in traffic. That's like that. 389 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: I could not say that better, Kelly, Really, that's exactly 390 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: that is perfect. 391 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, that's perfect. 392 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: You see that doesn't require an emotion, It doesn't require 393 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: an action emotion, there's an action. Feelings do not require 394 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: actions that might even be the best way to think 395 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: about it. So you get back down into your feelings. 396 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: You start using a higher level of consciousness to say, 397 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, I just this is happening for a reason. 398 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: Let me start focusing on what's going on right now. 399 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not focusing on the road like I should. See. 400 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Now you're using there's a value in that feeling in 401 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: the moment, and you're creating a higher level of consciousness 402 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: of how you want to experience it, versus getting all 403 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: up into the rage and getting angry, which now takes 404 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: you out of any ability at all to be able 405 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: to process the information as what is this trying to 406 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: teach me and show me huge difference? 407 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess it's almost like when we're just 408 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: acting out of the emotions, like the feeling. Maybe it's 409 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: like you can acknowledge that you feel angry, like that 410 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: pissed me off. I wish they wouldn't have done that. Whatever. 411 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Then like you can say, like what you said, well, 412 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: maybe they're having well I don't know, we all make mistakes. Whatever, 413 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Why is this happening right now? There's always a reason. 414 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it's exactly right. Okay, And so that's 415 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: what this Jupiter is all about, digesting facts and rebelling 416 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: against power structures with humor. I think humor is one 417 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: of the what is Jupiter retrograde trying to teach us 418 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: humor just make everything it's just funny. 419 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I've been laughing a lot at the state of 420 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: our everything else to do. At this point, I'm just like, 421 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: here we are. The Internet is funny sometimes. 422 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Yes it is. And so we get into the scorpio 423 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: at on November the twentieth at twenty nine degrees. This 424 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: is the courage to stand up for what you believe in, 425 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: even when it's risky and unpopular. But what I'm saying, 426 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: and what I've said all up until this point, is 427 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: you don't have to share it. When I talked earlier 428 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: to a client, I said, you know what just popped 429 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: in my mind is don't cast pearls before swine. Know 430 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: who you're talking to, right, Know who you're talking to 431 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: and what you can share and can't share, and don't 432 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: share your creativity, and don't share things that go into 433 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: a rabbit hole that you have to describe why you 434 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: think what you think. There's no point in that. I 435 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: read an article today about the most intelligent people just 436 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: shut up and do not defend or describe what they're 437 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 2: thinking and responding to a conversation that doesn't line up 438 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: with them. 439 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you just described all my past relationships 440 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: and the reason that my relationship now is so much 441 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: more peaceful for me. But you have to like, for instance, 442 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: for the listeners, what Marv just said, it's the perfect 443 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: way for me to describe that I like heard every 444 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend argument that I was always having trying to 445 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Like I've said this on the podcast before. I thought, 446 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: if I just say this in another way, if I 447 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: just say it better, if I just say it at 448 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: a different time of day, if I just say it 449 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: when they're sitting down, not standing up, when the sky 450 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: is blue and not, you know, like all of the 451 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: different things. It didn't matter. It was the audience. They 452 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: were never gonna hear it ever, So it didn't matter 453 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: how I said it, what I was saying when I 454 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: said it, the tone of voice. They weren't gonna get 455 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: it because we weren't aligned. And that was the biggest 456 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: gift to me. Now, is I don't waste my energy 457 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: defending like you said, or explaining anything to anyone who 458 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: is determined to misunderstand me Like that is just we're 459 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: not that's too much energy. Just why would we even 460 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: do it? 461 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: All it is is trying to solicit validation for the 462 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: way we are. How can I validate me by communicating 463 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: to somebody else and getting them to agree with me? Shit, 464 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: that's a religion. 465 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: I was always like trying to get them to see 466 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the pain they were causing me, and it's like I 467 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: don't care because it's all about them, you know. 468 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't care, So it even caused more. 469 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Pain exactly until I could finally just accept it. 470 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: And so this Scorpio new moon is about following walk 471 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: your own path, learn to handle challenges without bitterness. Perfect 472 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: I think you described it earlier. This happened for a reason, 473 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Let me learn from it. God, can you imagine how 474 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: if you of your life like that with every relationship 475 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: you meet, how easy and simple it would be. 476 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: It's almost like taking your power back in some weird way, 477 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: Like it's very empowering to live that way, because there's 478 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: just if. 479 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: We are met and that's not a weird way. Kelly, Well, 480 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's a wonderful way. 481 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a wonderful way. But it's just when so 482 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: many external factors are coming at us at all times, 483 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: if they're all capable of rocking us, Like even when 484 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: you're sitting in traffic, if someone's other, someone else is 485 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: driving erratically or whatever is going to ruin your day, 486 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: you're giving them the power of your day. But if 487 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: you can sit and go okay, woof, guess they're in 488 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: a hurry or some shit like, it just turns it 489 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: around and they don't have the they don't have the 490 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: power to like take you down in the same way. Yeah, 491 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: or any external factor for that matter. 492 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And so this new moon, the energy patterns 493 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: Iurana supposes, the new moon and the mercury retrograde and 494 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: what is it? A wake up call both psychological and spiritual. 495 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: So we're needing to get into that level of consciousness 496 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: where we operate on a moment to moment basis instead 497 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: of old conditioning and patterning, and start trusting ourselves in 498 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: the moment. And so you know, we'll get sudden insights, revelations, 499 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: or disruptions that break open what's been suppressed, so you 500 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: know there's another metaphor available there somewheres. So our suppressions 501 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: are what makes us get emotional because we've been we've 502 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: been suppressing something. Whatever gets suppressed must come out in 503 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: another person, and when it comes out in another person, 504 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: it's always worse. 505 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: M I mean to go on again on this road 506 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: rage example. It's like if someone cuts you off and 507 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: it makes you so mad and you're just like fuming, 508 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: where did that start? Like where did you first feel 509 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: disrespected in your life? Like those are the kind of 510 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: things I start thinking about now too when something triggers 511 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: me and it's just like, I'm such a short fuse 512 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: about it. It's probably because it's showing me something. Like 513 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: you were saying in the beginning of the podcast, every 514 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: relationship is such a mirror for us. But like, maybe 515 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: you felt disrespected through I don't know, your twenties or something, 516 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: or your childhood or whatever it was, and you have 517 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: not been living out in a way that has changed 518 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: that narrative within you. Then you're going to keep bumping 519 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: up against people cutting you off and people disrespecting you 520 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: and all that stuff until you get that right within yourself. 521 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do. They're just the catalyst, like 522 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: they're just the thing here to show you that. 523 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: And that's perfect. And I mean, you know, this is 524 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: the second into last statement and they're buried feelings erupt 525 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: for healing. So you become emotional based upon an old 526 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: feeling that you have now suppressed internally and now it's 527 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: being brought up so you can heal it. So when 528 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: you get that road rage and you experience that emotion, 529 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to heal that by going through 530 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: the process that you laid out that makes sense to me. 531 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: Liberation from fear or control, releasing old trauma patterns, especially 532 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: around intimacy, money, and trust. That's the final new moon truth. 533 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: So that this is for basically all of November, right, 534 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: or this is for November okay, yeah. 535 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that's the new moon in Scorpio, right, 536 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 2: So that's that's part of November and some of December. 537 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was kind of wondering that, okay. 538 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: Because this is the Scorpio new mood. It's not even 539 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 2: going to be until November twentieth. Well, you won't even 540 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: be out of the new moon until four or five 541 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: days into December, and so you're going to be dealing 542 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: with this next month, and so we've really got to 543 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: face all of our patterns of trust and guilt and 544 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: doubt and shame and judgment. There are no fears. Release 545 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: the fears, release all of these intimacy issues that you're 546 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: bumping up against another person and realizing they are your teachers, 547 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: they're helping you, and you just go through the process 548 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: of that of what you defined, which was perfect, of 549 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: that driver that cuts you off? What is this showing me? 550 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: How is this teaching me? Did I have skin in 551 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: the game? Did I not have skin in the game? 552 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: Did I do this on purpose? Did I not do 553 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: this on This is the way I want to react. 554 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 2: Is there a better way to react? 555 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 556 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: And so go ahead, that's the process. 557 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, this feels like an 558 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: interesting I mean, it's not ever surprising, but it's a 559 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: good wrap up of the year in a way to 560 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: start inventoring some of our behaviors and the things that 561 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: are impacting us and really be reflective on that, you know. 562 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not technically the end of the year astrologically, 563 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: I know, but like I think, because of the way 564 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: we operate, sometimes we do start to get a little 565 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: more reflective at this time of year, and you really 566 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: can start looking at what you want to bring into 567 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: the new year and what you want to release and 568 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: let go and leave in the past. 569 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, we're only a month away from the winter solstice, 570 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: which is exactly defining what the winter solstice is about. 571 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there you go. 572 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: And think about what I said about till March, undue 573 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: beliefs on your old belief your patterns that do not 574 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 2: work and don't form any new ones because you don't 575 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: know all what's going. 576 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: On behind the Yeah, we're not there and. 577 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: That's the juput a retrograde message until March. 578 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: Well, all right, act everyone, Marv. If people want to 579 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: know what's going on specifically for them, I always say, 580 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: it's a really good thing to have their own birth 581 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: chart read and do a session with you. So where 582 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: would they find you if they want to do that? 583 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: At astro marvs dot com. 584 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: Marv dot com, Yeah right, Marvin, Oh you have both, Yeah, 585 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: I think Marvin Marvin at astromarv dot com. I'll put 586 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: that in the description of the podcast for you guys. 587 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: In case we were astro mark dot com. 588 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's your website, astromarv dot com all of that. 589 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: If they really want the full picture of me, they 590 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: can go to soul Fusionhealing dot com. 591 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: Okay, sol Fusion. 592 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: That's a wonderful website, and. 593 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: Your book is soul Fusion as well. So again, a 594 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of information for you, guys, So I'll put it 595 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: in the description of this podcast to make sure we 596 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: didn't just confuse the hell out of you with all 597 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: of that. But go check that out. Go do a 598 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: session with Marv. That would actually be such a good 599 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: Christmas gift to give people. So if you have a 600 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: friend that's interested or anything like that. I always love 601 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: gifting people sessions with Marv. It's like an interesting gift 602 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: and nobody thinks of it, so an astrology session is 603 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: always a good way to go. So anyway, thank you 604 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: mar for being here with us, and we'll report back 605 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: in December and see how November one. 606 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for having me 607 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening.