Speaker 1: Look out, it's only films to be Bad at Web. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a Mike stand and I love film. As
Speaker 1: Andre Bretton once said, love is when you meet someone
Speaker 1: who tells you something new about yourself, like the fact
Speaker 1: that you've been lying about having seen Citizen Cane for
Speaker 1: years just to avoid people explaining the film to you.
Speaker 1: Mamma Mia, look at you, Andre Bretton, and thank you
Speaker 1: for confessing. Maybe you should come on The Resurrection. Every
Speaker 1: week I invite a special guest over. I tell them
Speaker 1: they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life
Speaker 1: through the films that meant the most of them. Previous
Speaker 1: guests include Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even
Speaker 1: Zed Bambles. But this week it's the brilliant comedian and
Speaker 1: podcaster and all round superstar. It's Fern Brady. Head over
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Speaker 1: where you get next to twenty minutes with Fern, where
Speaker 1: we talk about beginnings and endings. She tells me a
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Speaker 1: Brady is a fucking brilliant comedian and podcaster. You might
Speaker 1: also know her from Taskmaster. I've known her for years.
Speaker 1: I love hanging out with her. She's so funny, so interesting,
Speaker 1: and this episode is just more of that. We recorded
Speaker 1: this on Zoom and I really think you're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: So that is it for now. I hope you're all well,
Speaker 1: and I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a podcaster, a sketch, a radio star, a TV star,
Speaker 1: a human star, a woman, a taskmaster, a hero, a legend,
Speaker 1: and one of the all time great stand ups in
Speaker 1: the UK. Please workcome to this show. It's the brilliant,
Speaker 1: the amazing, the wonderful. It's only fair Brady. Hello, I'm
Speaker 1: not an actor a little I can't believe you describe
Speaker 1: me as an actor. You've done that you've done an
Speaker 1: acting No, I haven't. I don't want to do acting.
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to get my agents, always trying to
Speaker 1: make me do it. And then I've done some acting
Speaker 1: and Taskmaster and that's him back on the trying to
Speaker 1: get me into it again, and he's always like, oh,
Speaker 1: acting is really well, pet as if I don't know.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the reason I've been avoiding that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you hate money and a lot of money,
Speaker 1: so if I was good at acting, I would obviously
Speaker 1: do it. It feels psychotic to me. It is absolutely psychotic.
Speaker 1: And once you embraced that, Actually, you said something to
Speaker 1: me about acting that I'll think about a lot. When
Speaker 1: we were doing a gig, we were doing a gig
Speaker 1: and chat and Ken yeah, yeah, and then and it
Speaker 1: was ship you said, this is acting. We're going to
Speaker 1: go and pretend that we like this gig, and that's acting.
Speaker 1: So I always think of that now whenever I'm about
Speaker 1: to do acting. That's so funny because thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I don't think we did a very good performance and
Speaker 1: pretending we were enjoying that gig. And then the one
Speaker 1: of the only things I've acted in was with your mate, John, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it directed to me as an alien boy exactly.
Speaker 1: I've seen you as an alien boy and it was
Speaker 1: a seamless performance. It's absolutely magnificent. So yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: why I opened with your introduction as acting, because that's
Speaker 1: really how I see you. No, I'm a communient. What
Speaker 1: I want is to avoid acting, and then when I'm
Speaker 1: about sexty to get a really gritty part and a
Speaker 1: sort of can luch felt Oh you'll be dead then,
Speaker 1: but something like that. Oh yeah, that's that's the trajectory
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, okay, I'll sort of Kathy Bark type
Speaker 1: turn where everyone's like, oh, I didn't know she could
Speaker 1: do this really bleak roll. You want to do a
Speaker 1: Dave Jones, right, you want to be exactly? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: or like Collevia Coleman and Tyrannosaur something like that. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to do. It was depressing. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's something to pain for. You're in Taskmaster right now?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? I was finished? What happened at the end?
Speaker 1: Can we spoil it? Then? Did you win it? I
Speaker 1: didn't want it, but I want little hearts and minds
Speaker 1: of yours? Yeah, I said, I was. I did a
Speaker 1: little bit. Did you love? It? Is like the best
Speaker 1: job I've ever done? What was your favorite bit? What
Speaker 1: was your favorite task? Singing? I had to do a
Speaker 1: sing in task. Oh man, I'm excited to see season.
Speaker 1: I sang quite a lot in the house anyway, and
Speaker 1: I write songs, So it was like the role I've
Speaker 1: been preparing for my whole life. This is so great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Who won it? Well, some people are
Speaker 1: really precious about spoilers, so silly, right, But it's it's
Speaker 1: out now, it's done. Yeah, yeah, okay, I think we
Speaker 1: can say it. Then maybe we'll bliep it. Buddy, Why
Speaker 1: don't you beliep? That's because it'll be fun. So what
Speaker 1: now you're off on tour. Well, I've got a book
Speaker 1: coming out in February. What's the book. It's just about
Speaker 1: my terrible life before it stands up. You got some
Speaker 1: great stories. I wanted to do a book about autism
Speaker 1: and feminism and that and how I need to get
Speaker 1: better at describing it. It's a dead good book. Little
Speaker 1: I know. It's cold, strong female character, but it's not
Speaker 1: like a ship comedian book. Yes, do you know where
Speaker 1: our comedians do books that are really silly. You need
Speaker 1: to say that this is not a ship comedian book. No,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's because I think people think I've
Speaker 1: written a silly book. But it's like a serious book.
Speaker 1: I learned Andrews read it. She was crying. Put that
Speaker 1: on it. So it's like your memoirs before stand up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in one. There's almost no stand up in it.
Speaker 1: That's great because I was remember I told you years
Speaker 1: ago I was writing. I had a stupid script and
Speaker 1: development for like five years about when I was a
Speaker 1: strett by, and then the BBC kept returning it to
Speaker 1: me and saying can you take out anything decent in it?
Speaker 1: So then I just angrily put it all into a
Speaker 1: book proposal, and then I started writing more stuff around that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the book happened really quickly. Well this is
Speaker 1: fucking great fun. And then you know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen is the babyc is gonna come crawling back to
Speaker 1: you and how can we option this book contenting to
Speaker 1: a TV show? That was well, that was basically my
Speaker 1: plan from the start. I remember our message Adam Kane.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I would be quicker writing
Speaker 1: a book and selling the book as a script than
Speaker 1: continuing on this path, And yeah, that is happening. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: not a bit like I'm having meetings about selling it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was good fun because you just have more control.
Speaker 1: How long did it tective write And was it easy
Speaker 1: and cathartic or was it difficult? It wasn't really cathartic.
Speaker 1: It was like not the pressing. Well it was at
Speaker 1: some point, but I really enjoyed it. It took me
Speaker 1: about between eighteen months to two years. Most of it
Speaker 1: got done in a year. In the writing of it,
Speaker 1: did you find out anything about yourself or that, as in,
Speaker 1: did you kind of learn something from writing it? You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: now you had a perspective on it that you didn't
Speaker 1: have before from having written it now. Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: but how did I tell this is a standalone bang? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I realized this. I had this old man that was
Speaker 1: my friend, but I think he was grooming me. So
Speaker 1: I guess I realized that because basically because you know,
Speaker 1: I've finally got my autism certificate in lockdown. But obviously,
Speaker 1: like on' you are what they used to call aspergers,
Speaker 1: and you had that before then I got the proper
Speaker 1: fingered it in lockdown. And then part of that is
Speaker 1: you just anyone that's nice to you as you're you
Speaker 1: just make them your friends. So when I was sixteen,
Speaker 1: my parents kicked me out of the house all the time,
Speaker 1: and I used to go to the corner shop to
Speaker 1: practice my Arabic with the old guy that run it.
Speaker 1: For context, I was going to you need to study Arabic,
Speaker 1: and then he would take me a pizza hut and
Speaker 1: stuff and top up my phone. And I used to think,
Speaker 1: why are people looking at as weirdly? And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's because they're racist, not because I'm friends with like
Speaker 1: a sixty five year old Pakistani man. Right, So that
Speaker 1: was one bit. Had that relationship end? When did you
Speaker 1: stop hanging out? He took me home, He made me
Speaker 1: go back to my parents, So maybe he wasn't. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was just I was telling my dad about it
Speaker 1: because I was sort of giving my parents a briefing
Speaker 1: of what was going to be in the book, and
Speaker 1: my dad said, I think he was just a very
Speaker 1: kind man, and I was like, no, I don't think,
Speaker 1: old man just top up your phone and buy you
Speaker 1: things for no reason. He might have just felt sorry
Speaker 1: for you maybe, but he used to say anytime his
Speaker 1: wife was coming into the shop, he would be like,
Speaker 1: you have to tell her that you're just my assistant
Speaker 1: and we're getting a divorce, so don't worry. And I thought,
Speaker 1: why why I the story completely then, Yeah, and other
Speaker 1: stories I've told from the book I've sort of learned
Speaker 1: not to see on comedy podcast because people just look
Speaker 1: fucking horrified. Liked, do you know off menu? Yeah? Men,
Speaker 1: huge fan, Yeah I did that, And they were like,
Speaker 1: what can you tell us from the book, And I said, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I used to work in a strip club in Edinburgh
Speaker 1: were the only regulars was a guy with a brain
Speaker 1: engine and a guy that had down syndrome that would
Speaker 1: just shout at us all the time. And Ed honestly
Speaker 1: looked aghas and then and then there was just a
Speaker 1: terrible silence where I was like, oh, I'll just not James.
Speaker 1: And they had a very very good boy Sunday. They're
Speaker 1: very good. Yeah I'm a good girl, but I'm just
Speaker 1: seeing what happened. No, but they're like they're the equivalent
Speaker 1: of like Virgin Sunday. I think, yeah, yeah, you're basically
Speaker 1: talking to two virgins you've never about sex. Streaming the
Speaker 1: word strip plan probably gives them times. I know, I
Speaker 1: think they thought I was trying to I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, what I should I have adapted
Speaker 1: that story, but that was that was what was fun
Speaker 1: about the book. But I didn't have to sort of
Speaker 1: with comedy, you're always trying to get the consent of
Speaker 1: the audience. That's what Chris Morris says. That's so interesting. Well,
Speaker 1: it then affects what kind of stand up you do weds.
Speaker 1: With a book or a film, you can just put
Speaker 1: the most fucked stuff And yeah, I totally see your
Speaker 1: can Lates plan. Now. I think it's all going to
Speaker 1: work out. I think I think you're going to play
Speaker 1: really really depressing parts in your sixties. Well I did
Speaker 1: some acting and Taskmaster and everyone was like, that was
Speaker 1: so poignant, and I was like, I was, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was doing an impressional sade American. That's really funny.
Speaker 1: Fun I forgot, Oh man, I love your cabinets in
Speaker 1: the background. Oh thanks so much. But that wasn't what
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you. Okay, what I forgot to
Speaker 1: tell you was, Yeah, I got some cabinets in the background.
Speaker 1: But also you're dead. You've died? Oh no, yeah, no?
Speaker 1: Did I die off? Good question? You tell me what
Speaker 1: how did you die? I think I'm going to get
Speaker 1: killed in the street because I'll shout at some mad
Speaker 1: person that's shouting at me. I'll shout back at them
Speaker 1: and they'll stab me, stab you one time, ye, multiple times.
Speaker 1: It's definitely going to be Uncatford with other and the
Speaker 1: Worsham Council car park is where I'm going to die.
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe it's the wife of the man
Speaker 1: who was grooming you when he was sixteen. No, that
Speaker 1: was in Scotland. Okay, I think we're still together. Oh
Speaker 1: that's nice. I'm glad she thought you were his assistant. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I actually hope. I hope for defamation reasons
Speaker 1: that he's dead. My question is if you were his assistant,
Speaker 1: what were your duties. We used to just read horoscopes
Speaker 1: to each other, so like he'd say to the way
Speaker 1: this message, that's just to read my horoscope today. He
Speaker 1: said that I was working in the corner shop, right, okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: there's a mad in your words, a mad person in
Speaker 1: the street in Catford. He shouts at you, he or
Speaker 1: she more than there's more than one mad person in Catfords. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you beat a Catfords. He shouts at you. You shout back,
Speaker 1: I shout back. He stabs you immediately. How many times?
Speaker 1: I don't know there could be a chase. I've been
Speaker 1: chased in Catford so many times that I don't even
Speaker 1: my facial expression doesn't even change now when I run away. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you ran a bit and then he stabs you
Speaker 1: twenty times, Yeah, in the in the back, in the front,
Speaker 1: all over, all over, some in the head. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so tragic. Some of the head. You can't put this,
Speaker 1: and this is terrible. The other way I think, I
Speaker 1: legitimately think I'll die, is my thing's going to pop.
Speaker 1: Something emmy is gonna pop, right just from beers still emotions, um,
Speaker 1: and I think the I think, and my brain's gonna
Speaker 1: pop or my heart is going to pop. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you only get stabbed multiple times by a mad person
Speaker 1: in the streets of Catfit or you feel so emotionally
Speaker 1: moved by something your not because I feel moved because
Speaker 1: I get so angry and where I'm up that something's
Speaker 1: going to burst. Okay, how about this mad person in
Speaker 1: the streets shots at you. You're so furious you shout back.
Speaker 1: They run at you with a knife before they get
Speaker 1: to you with a knife. She's so angry you shout
Speaker 1: at them that your brain explains before they even stabbed.
Speaker 1: It's like that, and then just blood trickles over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then then they're well confused, like I didn't even
Speaker 1: I didn't touch them, and then yeah, okay, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: That's my worst death would be for something to fall
Speaker 1: on my head from the sky. I'm always worried about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that, because happened someone in Edinburgh when I
Speaker 1: left it. What happened? That's waitress. Oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should say, but I was about twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: This waitress was waitressing and she went outside tea ble
Speaker 1: outside and then I beg but a concrete just fail
Speaker 1: on her head and what happened? She died? Yeah that's what?
Speaker 1: Are we just? Yeah? Yeah, that's I mean, that's that.
Speaker 1: Would I guess fill you with dread of things fully
Speaker 1: out of the sky. I always worry about Is it
Speaker 1: true you hear this when you're little? If you drop
Speaker 1: a pe off the top of the Eiffel Tower and
Speaker 1: it lands with someone's head, it will kill them. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Ever thought? Yeah, it seems untrue, but I
Speaker 1: would say, I think there's anyone where I find it
Speaker 1: out and that SEP would get brought away. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it has to be a frozen pa. What or I
Speaker 1: would have to be not a Wendy day frozen pea
Speaker 1: on a calm day you could kill someone it was Wendy.
Speaker 1: The p would just fall along like the fail at
Speaker 1: the start of fortist Gump. So the Eiffle towers like
Speaker 1: curved and it curved up was if you dropped it
Speaker 1: at the topic proces landed in a bit of the
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower rather than straight with someone dead, you'd crab
Speaker 1: to throw it out a bit. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: who's conducted this experiment, and it seems like a fact,
Speaker 1: But maybe it's true. When I'm in Paris, which has
Speaker 1: only happened once, I wandered around worried about being killed
Speaker 1: by a pe Eiffel Tower. You've only been in Paris once? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. Oh I went last year. Well soon
Speaker 1: that was only the second time. Everyone was smoking, even
Speaker 1: children were smoking. So Stuken. But the President's got nicer
Speaker 1: since last time. They were really nice. That's nice. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're fans of Taskmaster. No I was before that had been.
Speaker 1: Do you worry about death? And no? I think about
Speaker 1: my own death every single day though, And I watched
Speaker 1: the TV show Sex Feet Under over and over again
Speaker 1: because it's a good meditation on death. And I love
Speaker 1: films about death, like for someone who's a comedian, everything
Speaker 1: I watch is extremely dark, Yeah, and bleak. I respect that.
Speaker 1: What about what do you think it happens when you die? Anything?
Speaker 1: What's your consciousness? Yeah? I think well, I think all
Speaker 1: the near death things people report where they feel like
Speaker 1: they're going to heaven could just be our brain comfort
Speaker 1: in them as all their organs shut down. But I
Speaker 1: do also think we become ghosts what and stick around
Speaker 1: haunting people. I don't know if we stick around haunt
Speaker 1: and well, some people do, well, yeah they do, because
Speaker 1: I've seen ghosts. Can you tell me one guy's story
Speaker 1: from your life? Please? Well, but it's really true and
Speaker 1: you're not going to believe me, and you're going to okay. Well,
Speaker 1: people always think that ghosts haunt stately homes and stuff,
Speaker 1: but not council houses and basket where I'm from, and
Speaker 1: my boyfriend at school he was saying, Oh, my house
Speaker 1: is really haunted and it's like a real problem. And
Speaker 1: then his mom was like, she said, the house is
Speaker 1: so fucking haunted. I can't even get through any of
Speaker 1: the spooky lines. They all hang up on me. And
Speaker 1: she was phoning psychic hotlines and they were just refusing
Speaker 1: to speak to her, and any psychic that did speak
Speaker 1: to her was like, you have to move out this
Speaker 1: house that's so haunted. So we had a seance one night, me,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, and two of our mates from school, and
Speaker 1: we were just drinking and stuff and it ends up
Speaker 1: being quite a laugh. But we'd also brought a cam
Speaker 1: corder because this is like two thousand and two or something.
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't have camera phones. We put the cam corridor
Speaker 1: on the couch. Now, we just forgot about it and
Speaker 1: we were all sitting around drinking, eating a ton of
Speaker 1: Quality Street right then. We watched the thing back the
Speaker 1: next day and it was all dark when we were
Speaker 1: sitting around, and you can just see the wrappers of
Speaker 1: the Quality Street get pushed down on the table and
Speaker 1: pushed across the table. Then my friends was chatting away.
Speaker 1: She had her back to the camera and you see
Speaker 1: her just brushing her shoulder absent mindedly, and then from
Speaker 1: the angle of the camera you just see her top
Speaker 1: being pulled right. Oh my god. There was other stuff
Speaker 1: where we would wake up in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night and like books would be stamping around the downstairs
Speaker 1: of the house and no one was downstairs. And then
Speaker 1: the bit no one believes me about is there was
Speaker 1: a shot of a door in this video and an
Speaker 1: old man's face, like this ghostly thing of an old
Speaker 1: man's face came out the door. But then my friend
Speaker 1: lent the video to someone that we knew at UNI
Speaker 1: and she never gave it back, so now we never
Speaker 1: have proof of this happening. Fucking that's a great story. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so do you think guys hang around? You don't think
Speaker 1: they go to heaven or do you think some go
Speaker 1: to heaven some stick around. No, I don't think goes
Speaker 1: go to heaven. I don't think it was heaven or hell.
Speaker 1: You think everyone just sticks around as a spirit? Yeah? Interesting,
Speaker 1: So if you could, like the veil on your eyes,
Speaker 1: you'd see guys everywhere. You see a billion six billion ghosts. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're all there at anyone team. I
Speaker 1: thank they exist. Different ghosts success to different people. So
Speaker 1: that my grandparents would be watching me and stuff, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see your grandparents because they're not. No. The
Speaker 1: problem is I'm a Catholic, and Catholics believe that your
Speaker 1: grandparents are watching you have sex. Yeah, well that was
Speaker 1: why I was brought up to believe. Yeah, no, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. They're into that. Well I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: work out the logic, not that it needs them. But
Speaker 1: so your grandparents are watching you, but I wouldn't. Your
Speaker 1: grandparents aren't watching me, So I don't see your grandparents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I only see my grands So everyone's family sort
Speaker 1: of sticks around and in their hats. In your house,
Speaker 1: you've got guys and they're all your family, and in
Speaker 1: my house, I got guys and they're all my family.
Speaker 1: Everyone stays separate. Yes, okay. Also, it's only the ghosts
Speaker 1: that cared about you. So, like, like my Grandda was
Speaker 1: a drunk and just that's like mad guy, and I
Speaker 1: didn't have any like very much connection to him. He's
Speaker 1: not haunting me, he's haunting other people. So only the grandparents.
Speaker 1: God not like I don't know. I don't even know
Speaker 1: who he was bothered about. But my grandparents on my
Speaker 1: mom's side are around so and you can tell because
Speaker 1: they appear in the form of robins and stuffy. Yeah
Speaker 1: do you know about that? Tell me you don't know.
Speaker 1: So when you see a robin and it's one of
Speaker 1: your dead relatives, is it? Yeah, that's why robins are
Speaker 1: so cheeky. Why they any sort of Christmas bed, Well,
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not for me. They only live for
Speaker 1: eighteen months. I just found out, because they're just a ghost.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why you only see them at Christmas because
Speaker 1: the rest of the time they're doing their bucket list
Speaker 1: or something. We've got a quicklihood before we got fascinating.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend's family got They got an espresso machine for
Speaker 1: his mom at Christmas and a robin flu in just
Speaker 1: as they were talking about it was grand and these
Speaker 1: are all Granny's here, and then the robin shout all
Speaker 1: down the espresso machine and then they like knew it
Speaker 1: was hard because that was the kind of she was
Speaker 1: quite grumpy herself. Well, I got some news for your fad.
Speaker 1: It's sort of true. And it's sort of not. The
Speaker 1: thing is, yeah, you can stick around and home people
Speaker 1: if you want, But if you don't want, there's a heaven,
Speaker 1: and you go to heaven. You're very welcome that everyone's
Speaker 1: a huge fan. They love you stand out, they love
Speaker 1: you your book. They've read an advanced copy. They absolutely
Speaker 1: love it. And it's filled with your favorite thing. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite thing? Bread? Bread? Bread, Yeah, think of you.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm trying to give up breads, you just think
Speaker 1: of Brett. I referenced you. I went on this fast
Speaker 1: and retreat, right, did you? Yeahue Blue was taking the
Speaker 1: pest out on before it, and I went disproportionately mental
Speaker 1: at her over it. Well after, for a few days afterwards,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to eat bread, which is really mad
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like an alcoholic when it comes
Speaker 1: to bread. I love it. But whenever I'm thinking don't
Speaker 1: you want to be more successful and break America and stuff?
Speaker 1: I think of that time when we were at Welles
Speaker 1: Fest of all are you are you like? This is
Speaker 1: weird that you have all these treasured memories on me.
Speaker 1: When you and me and Luke McQueen and Lua got
Speaker 1: breakfast and then you were like, I don't want any
Speaker 1: toast with my breakfast, and now we're in the ted
Speaker 1: Lasso thing. Yeah, I think that's why. I think it
Speaker 1: was not eating bread that led to well, that's part
Speaker 1: of it. I think it's completely. I think that's all
Speaker 1: it is. Anyone you are, it's such an amazing sacrifice,
Speaker 1: sacrifice the time. But you know, I really like said lesson,
Speaker 1: so I guess it's one of the Well, Naomi Campbell says, like,
Speaker 1: I remember she had a quote about, oh you know
Speaker 1: you can you can do without heaven. She basically was
Speaker 1: seeing she hasn't the knees in life, and if that
Speaker 1: means not having bread at restaurants, she can deal with it.
Speaker 1: And I think about that and the time you didn't
Speaker 1: have toasted with your breakfast as sensible. Well, listen, once
Speaker 1: you listen, I agree. Once I'm in heaven, I'm fucking
Speaker 1: it's all bread. You're gonna look like Grossel Cruel after
Speaker 1: because I think sometimes I go, why can't I just
Speaker 1: be like Grossel Cruel because he signed contracts to see
Speaker 1: he would eat healthilly when he was doing Gladiator. Now
Speaker 1: you see him in Australia and he's just like eating
Speaker 1: pies at football matches and he's gained about twenty stone
Speaker 1: and you're like, that's the right way to do it.
Speaker 1: He seems so much happier as well. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he is. Okay, Well, this heaven is filled with bread,
Speaker 1: smells like a fresh bakery. In the seats are like dough,
Speaker 1: but like freshly cooked don and they're not too up
Speaker 1: but they're warm. And everyone there is like a Pillsbury
Speaker 1: doughboys walking around and they all look like that and
Speaker 1: you could not poke their belly. And they go and
Speaker 1: they're so exciting, and there's bread everywhere, bread, bread, bread,
Speaker 1: and the bread. People want to talk to you about
Speaker 1: your life, but they weren't talk to you about your
Speaker 1: life through film. The first thing they ask is, what
Speaker 1: is the first film you remember seeing? Friend Brady? The
Speaker 1: Little Mermaids excellent film, which is actually an autism film.
Speaker 1: To bring it back to my book, The Little Mermaids,
Speaker 1: So Han's Christian Anderson that wrote that film was like
Speaker 1: widely speculated to sense then a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that he was autistic. And The Little Mermaids about feeling
Speaker 1: like you're a freak and you don't fit in with
Speaker 1: this other world. So you do a deal where you
Speaker 1: get the thing that you want and you learn to
Speaker 1: like pretend you're a normal woman, but you know you're not,
Speaker 1: and you know you need to be back with the
Speaker 1: fish in the sea. That's interesting. What what why was
Speaker 1: he what? What's the thinking behind the decision that he
Speaker 1: was autistic? Has risen? Oh? There speculation behind it? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so many things like well, then one of the most
Speaker 1: famous things is when he went to Charles Deckon's house
Speaker 1: for the visit. They I think they've been writing to
Speaker 1: each other and then Charles Deckon had sort of casually said, oh,
Speaker 1: if you're ever in London, comes stay at my house.
Speaker 1: Then he went to stay and because or testing people
Speaker 1: can't read between the lines, he just ended up staying
Speaker 1: for weeks and the whole family were just taking the
Speaker 1: pest out of him behind his back. Then at one
Speaker 1: point he lay on their law and just like crying
Speaker 1: his eyes out because they parted his feelings or something.
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. You can look at where did
Speaker 1: you see Little Mermaid? I had it on video and
Speaker 1: I used to take the video with me everywhere I
Speaker 1: went and like make people put it on. I just
Speaker 1: loved it. I really loved that film. We are you
Speaker 1: in any Child. I've got two younger brothers, so I'm
Speaker 1: the eldest. Did you watch it with them? Well, one
Speaker 1: of them was a baby, so I would have been
Speaker 1: like four. Basically, we didn't have a video player, but
Speaker 1: my grandparents had it, so I used to keep taking
Speaker 1: it to the video to their house. And then my
Speaker 1: grandda was like, I can't watch The Little Mermaid one
Speaker 1: more time. But it's say, it's just such a significant
Speaker 1: film because she can't. She's trying to impress this guy
Speaker 1: by suppressing all her natural instincts. And it's like in
Speaker 1: the fairy Tale, because the fairy Tale of the Little
Speaker 1: mermaids a lot darker. She's basically in agony. Was every
Speaker 1: step that she takes on her legs. It's a horrible
Speaker 1: end in the fairy tale. It's at the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the end of the non Disney version. Oh, her
Speaker 1: sisters flow out of the sea and they've all cut
Speaker 1: their hair off to give it to the sea witch,
Speaker 1: and they say, take this dagger and stab the prince
Speaker 1: with it, and when his warm blood goes onto your feet,
Speaker 1: you'll get your tailback and you can come back and
Speaker 1: live with us in the sea. So then she's standing
Speaker 1: over the sleeping prince with his new bride, and she's
Speaker 1: just like, I can't you do it? And then as
Speaker 1: it turns to midnight or the sun comes up or something,
Speaker 1: she turns into sea foam and then she has to
Speaker 1: live for a thousand years as like a fucking sea
Speaker 1: foam spirit or something. Yeah. I don't know why they
Speaker 1: change the ending. There would have been a good song though.
Speaker 1: She's standing over the prince trying to decide whether or
Speaker 1: not to stab him. Yeah, that's true, kill him. What's
Speaker 1: the film that scared you the most? Well? I put
Speaker 1: two options for this. I said Hereditary, which I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people will see. There's this amazing film
Speaker 1: called Lennon Lucy. Have you heard of it? Lenn you
Speaker 1: have to say kind of sorry, Lane. So Lennon Lucy's
Speaker 1: about because I'm obsessed with and loads of my book
Speaker 1: is about this, the idea of toxic femininity, which is
Speaker 1: the way women are brought up to socialize, where they're passive,
Speaker 1: aggressive and often you can't really tell if women have
Speaker 1: fallen out of you because they're just making side eye
Speaker 1: at each other and making secret little bit chy faces.
Speaker 1: So this film is about two best friends living in
Speaker 1: somewhere awful like Kent or something, and one of them
Speaker 1: gets accused of killing her baby. Her baby dies mysteriously,
Speaker 1: and then all the women at the hair dress and
Speaker 1: salon that they work and turn against the friends. This
Speaker 1: is really recent, this film, isn't it's too Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was one of those films that was just on
Speaker 1: I play, yeah, And I will watch any film that's
Speaker 1: about women going through like a dark time, especially if
Speaker 1: it's a British film, gritty, independent British film. And why
Speaker 1: did this one scat you the most? Because it's so true.
Speaker 1: So it's basically showing toxic femininity taken to its logical
Speaker 1: extreme and almost this like witch hunt of this women.
Speaker 1: And it's the way that there are that women can
Speaker 1: be bitches without ever really saying stuff in a direct way.
Speaker 1: And as someone who's really direct, because I always get
Speaker 1: told him really direct and blunt, but I'm quite I've
Speaker 1: not got a lot of social like, I'm not socially
Speaker 1: canny in that way. And if people are saying things
Speaker 1: without saying them, I can't really read between the lines
Speaker 1: and work out what's going on in this situation? So
Speaker 1: that film is more like a horror film than a
Speaker 1: traditional horror film is to me a great, great fucking answer.
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you cry the most? Are
Speaker 1: your cryer? Baby Teeth? Have you seen Baby Teeth? You
Speaker 1: have Baby Teeth? It's an amazing film. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's another one. It's so excited eating when you just
Speaker 1: find the film. You just run out of things to
Speaker 1: watch on Netflix, and then you just put something on randomly,
Speaker 1: and then two hours later you're like, I actually thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna drown in my own tears or have
Speaker 1: a heart attack while crying at it. It's such a
Speaker 1: good film. There's a there's a scene up and think
Speaker 1: about and it's quite a big it's a spoiler. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Listen if you've not seen Baby tea pressed
Speaker 1: skipped forward a minute. But after she's died, the scene
Speaker 1: in the kitchen and the way that the mom reacts
Speaker 1: to him, it's really like, so I don't know, three
Speaker 1: dimension knowing like it's not sort of what it's kind of.
Speaker 1: I just think that whole end part of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a brilliant film. It's really brilliant and really feels
Speaker 1: real and complicated, and yeah, it's actually it's a really
Speaker 1: sexy felm as well, like he kind of focks her
Speaker 1: to death. Yeah, it's lovely by the end. But you
Speaker 1: always one thing I thought might be on realistic but
Speaker 1: I don't really care, is generally when you've got cancer
Speaker 1: and your body's shutting down, you wouldn't really feel like
Speaker 1: a ride. But love is love. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: thought because it's just really four actors in it, and
Speaker 1: they're just so amazing. I'm so beautifully shot. There's a
Speaker 1: great eating a sandwich about having sex scenes. Remember when
Speaker 1: the mom and dad meet at work to have quick sex,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was to that house that they live on.
Speaker 1: Is so amazing, it's great. I wondered where they found it.
Speaker 1: The first night, so I watched Baby Teeth and my
Speaker 1: boyfriend was asleep next to me in the bed, and
Speaker 1: by the end I was like and I had to
Speaker 1: like set up because I was crying so hard. So
Speaker 1: the next night I was like, you have to watch
Speaker 1: this film with me. Just don't ask me anything about
Speaker 1: it and just watch it. And then the next night
Speaker 1: again we were both just like sob it what's the
Speaker 1: film you love, people don't like it is not critically
Speaker 1: well received, but you think it's brilliant regardless of what
Speaker 1: anyone says. Well, I was going to see show Girls,
Speaker 1: but I think show Girls has such a big fandom
Speaker 1: now and it's so appreciated. I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: good enough answer. So I think Cruel Intentions. If I
Speaker 1: was to see my favorite films, yeah, sometimes you try
Speaker 1: and see like Baby Teeth as is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite films, but it's very like critically well regarded it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if I look and save myself and if I
Speaker 1: look at a film I watched a lot, Cruel Intentions
Speaker 1: as a fucking amazing film. I love that. Someone said,
Speaker 1: what if we died out the whole film where no
Speaker 1: matter what's going on, everyone talks like their horny and
Speaker 1: about to come. You just love it. Every single person
Speaker 1: is going to see things in a horny way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fucking great film. You kind of you could
Speaker 1: also have show Girls because it hasn't been mentioned enough
Speaker 1: if anything on this podcast. It I mean it's come up,
Speaker 1: but you'd think it would be coming up every week. Okay,
Speaker 1: so me, we and my best mate Lauren. When we
Speaker 1: were at UNI, we used to live in a flat
Speaker 1: together and LEAs and Edinburgh and we watched Showgirls every
Speaker 1: single day and we know when we keep back, we
Speaker 1: were get a chippy and just have Showgirls on again
Speaker 1: and again and again. And then we had a Showgirls
Speaker 1: flat warming party where our game male friends were wearing
Speaker 1: like Gold's hot pants that we'd spray painted gold. And
Speaker 1: then Lauren made a wall of TETs where she cut
Speaker 1: all the TETs out of the Zoom magazine and nuts.
Speaker 1: Because if my dad came round after and he was
Speaker 1: really upset at the wall of TETs. Why my family
Speaker 1: are quite religious? Oh I see, okay, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: bad I suppose if you're depending on your religion. What
Speaker 1: is the film that you used to love but you've
Speaker 1: watched it recently and I don't like this anymore? Oh, kids, kids, Kids,
Speaker 1: is such a good answer to this question. That is
Speaker 1: such a good answer. Yeah, please elaborate, but I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. But go on. So when
Speaker 1: I was sixteen or seventeen, I remember I had this
Speaker 1: summer who used to used to go to the video
Speaker 1: shop and sometimes you could buy discounted videos and I
Speaker 1: didn't have the Internet or anything at home, so you
Speaker 1: just had to watch a film again and again. So
Speaker 1: I remember that summer where the film that me and
Speaker 1: my pals watched over and over was Kids, and we'd
Speaker 1: all just started having sex. So it's not a great film,
Speaker 1: or it is a good film to watch, because the
Speaker 1: plot of Kids is that there's this there's a really
Speaker 1: slotty girl in it who's been shagged up the arts
Speaker 1: and everything, and she doesn't get AIDS and Coolie Vigney
Speaker 1: does get aids. How would you say her surname? I
Speaker 1: love her? Okay, so close to Bernie has sex onds
Speaker 1: and she gets said yeah. Yeah. But the reason I
Speaker 1: don't like it as an adult because when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager, I was like, Oh, this film is so
Speaker 1: cool and it looks so cool and it's it's like,
Speaker 1: but if you watch it back as an adult, it's
Speaker 1: that what's that guy's name, Larry something. Yeah, he's basically
Speaker 1: a pedophile. He's no better than Terry Richardson, the photographer
Speaker 1: that took all the sort of pedo shots. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about Kids is half the cast
Speaker 1: are dead now, which is really sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just tragic suicide and drug overdoses and stuff. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not very uplifting teen film. And there's also a lot
Speaker 1: of scenes that like I hate groutuits violence in films
Speaker 1: so so much. I can't watch any Tarantino stuff and
Speaker 1: I don't even like if it's on in the background
Speaker 1: were but the bet where they batter that guy with
Speaker 1: a skateboard, I just it didn't really serve to drive
Speaker 1: the story forward or anything. I think in now I'm older,
Speaker 1: a film that kids is like, I think it exists
Speaker 1: to sort of scare, to sort of scare you and
Speaker 1: wind you up. It's almost like a probably like a
Speaker 1: modern version of Reef and Madness, you know, that sort
Speaker 1: of fifties black and white sort of public service film
Speaker 1: that's sort of famous where it's like drugs are bad
Speaker 1: and they will yeah kill it. Like kids is sort
Speaker 1: of like look at kids, They're terrible and this is
Speaker 1: the crazy life they live. Yeah, isn't it isn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it did have a good effect, but I
Speaker 1: mean I really didn't have a disproportionate fear of gut
Speaker 1: and needs for a long time. Yeah, well it's kept
Speaker 1: you safe, and we thank for that. That's why you've
Speaker 1: you've only had sex multiple times and never just went
Speaker 1: because that's how you get it's according to the film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do it quick, quick, Yeah, grabbed the skateboard. What is
Speaker 1: the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily
Speaker 1: the film itself is any good, but the experience you
Speaker 1: had around seeing the film will always make it special
Speaker 1: to you. Brady. Oh, it's another clue to bingy one.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I've put two answers for every every film.
Speaker 1: So firstly Human Traffic, because go and tell me that
Speaker 1: I that loved it. I do. See that's on our
Speaker 1: film I work back on and I find it's very
Speaker 1: all its time and very annoying. Yeah, I've not watched
Speaker 1: it in however long years. I'm sure. Well this is it.
Speaker 1: This is in my book as well. I had when
Speaker 1: I was still at school. So this is a bit.
Speaker 1: This is Reverdy dodgy. I had the three way with
Speaker 1: these people I'm at off the internet. One of them
Speaker 1: was a policewoman, the other one was a biefy and bored.
Speaker 1: I was only seventeen. I think they were borderline pedophiles.
Speaker 1: This is what I want about the booking flocked. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get away. Yeah, I mean, we
Speaker 1: can cut this you on, but I'm sort of curious,
Speaker 1: like you sort of actively looked for that when they
Speaker 1: found you, Like, no, they found me, I was. They
Speaker 1: found me on on dating site that me and my
Speaker 1: friends were on. That's only one. But I realized was Matt.
Speaker 1: It was only when I was writing the book. I
Speaker 1: thought that was quite mad, and the publisher said it
Speaker 1: was mad. Yeah. Well, anyway, I was trying to get
Speaker 1: away from their house and find a way to get
Speaker 1: away from their house, and I also I just didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk to them anymore. And I was looking
Speaker 1: at their DVDs and I said, can I borrow this
Speaker 1: Human Traffic DVD? And they were like, yeah, maybe you
Speaker 1: can return it to us when you come back next weekend.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, I'm not coming back.
Speaker 1: Who does this more than once? This is awful. And
Speaker 1: then a few weeks later they were like messaging me again,
Speaker 1: like where's our Human Traffic DVD? Yeah? And I never
Speaker 1: gave it back. Did you watch it? Yeah? I watched it.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of that really specific time. I was
Speaker 1: watching kids a lot around the same Time Kids and
Speaker 1: Human Traffic. And then the other film was Boys Don't Cry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And this was from my sixteenth birthday. I rented a
Speaker 1: video from the video shop to watch with my friends,
Speaker 1: but my parents are so strict and so religious that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let me watch the film on my own,
Speaker 1: like without them supervising. So we had to watch Chloe
Speaker 1: Surrown You Get Shagged by Hillary Swank waiting at a
Speaker 1: strap on with my parents and all my friends from school,
Speaker 1: and it was just exclusion. I'm still worrying about your
Speaker 1: three way with these women and who was the other
Speaker 1: character in this disturbing story? He was a bier. Was
Speaker 1: this a one off thing or did you have as
Speaker 1: in that was a one off? But did you have
Speaker 1: other experiences? Did you have good experiences from your dating
Speaker 1: on the internet? Or is this the minute so disturbing
Speaker 1: the context as well? I mean I was I was
Speaker 1: like mental at the time as well, right, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was mental and I had this three way.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my friends, my rese apout it
Speaker 1: the other day. She was she wrote quite a mad
Speaker 1: book full of sex, and she was I said, at
Speaker 1: least the sex and You're a book's very sexy. And
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm sure You're a book is sexy
Speaker 1: as well. And I was like, I wrote about having
Speaker 1: Kenney Stones our three way, Like that's not sexy because
Speaker 1: also at the time, sometimes when I've gone mad, I
Speaker 1: just want to eat one food over and over and
Speaker 1: I'll usually do that until I get out, And at
Speaker 1: this time, I was only I was basically just having
Speaker 1: diet cork, Like there was another time where all on
Speaker 1: the eggs until mar kidneys can give up. That's not
Speaker 1: very sexy, isn't it. I'm sure there's a there's a
Speaker 1: fetish for that somewhere. Yeah, Brady, I'm sorry. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's made me sad. I've never been made sad by
Speaker 1: the idea of a three way. And there we are.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was so grand. I guess. So sex
Speaker 1: can be sad in the in the right context. Do
Speaker 1: you want me to see another film that Another film
Speaker 1: that was had a mad context that I think about
Speaker 1: a lot was I watched the film Choke when I
Speaker 1: had a break up at UNI, and I was really sad.
Speaker 1: So now have you seen the film Choke? Yeah? Based
Speaker 1: on the chuck Yeah, yeah, I think if I'd seen
Speaker 1: Shook outside of any other context, it wouldn't be such
Speaker 1: a like the song reckon or makes me so sad,
Speaker 1: and I think it's such a lovely song because they
Speaker 1: play it at the end of that film. But traditionally
Speaker 1: the way that film ends is something where I kind
Speaker 1: of go fuck off because the end of the film
Speaker 1: has him kissing Kelly McDonald, Sam Rockwell kisses Kelly McDonald
Speaker 1: and an airplane toilet and the voiceover, and I hate
Speaker 1: voiceovers as a device. The voiceover is like, maybe me
Speaker 1: and her are just two crazy souls destined to find
Speaker 1: each other, do you know what I mean? I hate
Speaker 1: things like that. Why do you hate voice Because if
Speaker 1: you're a good storyteller, if you're if you can't tell
Speaker 1: the story visually, maybe go and write a book. Like
Speaker 1: I was watching it. We're known an either film last night,
Speaker 1: and everyone on either film has a voiceover to tell
Speaker 1: the story. I mean, that's what the that's how Maybe
Speaker 1: you're just a true filmmaker, that's what that is. Sort
Speaker 1: of Traditionally what you're taught is don't do voice overs.
Speaker 1: I do want to make films. Yeah, you've got you've
Speaker 1: got the eye for it apparently. I think it's also
Speaker 1: treating the audience as stupid putting a voice over there.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it, because I
Speaker 1: also go you know, Good Fellows is one of my
Speaker 1: time favorite films, and that's voice over Zoo. And then
Speaker 1: Showshank Redemption famously most people's favorite film. It works when
Speaker 1: it Joshank Redemption is people's favorite film on IMDb. Number
Speaker 1: one film is Show Redemption. We're so basic. I just
Speaker 1: don't want I don't really like watching films about men
Speaker 1: and their stories. That's fair. What's the film that you
Speaker 1: most relate to? Besh Tank That's such a good answer.
Speaker 1: My god, Besh Tanks were all time favorite film. I
Speaker 1: think it's a perfect film. I think Andrea Arnold is
Speaker 1: totally underappreciated. I don't really understands why she hasn't won
Speaker 1: an oscar. She even made a film about a cow,
Speaker 1: a dairy cow. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like it shows the
Speaker 1: cow meeting its boyfriend and the cow has sex with
Speaker 1: the bull, and then like Rihanna's We Found Love in
Speaker 1: a Hopeless Place or something place in the background. It's
Speaker 1: so good. So by the end when the cow dies,
Speaker 1: which isn't really a spoiler, because what do you think
Speaker 1: happens to dairy cows? Me and my boyfriend watched it
Speaker 1: and we were like crying, like we have to give
Speaker 1: up meet and we have to give up dairy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that was the end of that film. Have
Speaker 1: you given up meeting dairy? I don't eat meat, but
Speaker 1: the dairy film I'm working on. But about fest Tank, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason why I think it's so amazing is, um,
Speaker 1: it's all about being a creative. When you're a working
Speaker 1: class Garrow and you want to be creative. She goes
Speaker 1: to this dance audition and she wants to be an
Speaker 1: r and bad dancer, but then all the other girls
Speaker 1: are just doing sexy, sort of streckery dancing. And it's
Speaker 1: about that realization that if you stay in that place,
Speaker 1: there will only ever be one way for you to
Speaker 1: be a woman, and she's trying to find a different
Speaker 1: way of doing that and that's why she has to leave.
Speaker 1: Thanks him, I get it. Fend Brady, what's the sexiest
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen? Well? I think I said beshtag. Um,
Speaker 1: I love him Beshtag. When Michael Fassbender's like, do you
Speaker 1: like my big cock in side you or whoever, because
Speaker 1: I'm just like that last he wasn't even an actress
Speaker 1: before this, and now she's getting to like pretend to
Speaker 1: shag Michael Fassbender and desiged it like I pretty much
Speaker 1: all the guid Irish guy. I love it. It's so hot. Okay,
Speaker 1: fish Tank traveling, I love you too, Mama Town again.
Speaker 1: That would be that would be the best answer, because
Speaker 1: if I got cancer, I'd also go to Mexico and
Speaker 1: have a freeway. Yeah, with those two fit guys. But
Speaker 1: I've never really watched it. Oh, she's wonderful film, but
Speaker 1: I've never rewatched it. I've only watched it like once
Speaker 1: or twice fifteen years ago. What Where's fish Tank? Son
Speaker 1: repeated it. I've watched Fresh Tank probably twenty times, and
Speaker 1: I forced Alison. Do you know Alison spettal she's an
Speaker 1: Irish comedian, basically forced her to watch it. Had a
Speaker 1: campaign to get her to watch it because she'd cried
Speaker 1: a Wasp, which is Andrew Arnold's short film. So I
Speaker 1: was like, what well have you got against watching Fresh Tank?
Speaker 1: Did she love it? She didn't love it as much
Speaker 1: as me. Right. The subcategory is traveling bone is worrying
Speaker 1: why dons filmy found a rising? You should know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all excited for this. Well, this is the truth, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it to be provocative in Schendler's list. Now,
Speaker 1: this isn't my fault that this made mar I was
Speaker 1: that Steven spielke Berg's fault. There's a bit where this
Speaker 1: I think her name is Helena Hirsh. She's like shivering
Speaker 1: and the basement she lives in and her nipples are
Speaker 1: poking out, and then Ray finds comes down and he's
Speaker 1: like at least the eyes of a rat, and he's
Speaker 1: like fancies her. Yeah, so I saw this when I
Speaker 1: was like ten or eleven, and he's like, is this
Speaker 1: the face of my rat? And he's basically saying, I
Speaker 1: really fancy you, even though I hate you. And this
Speaker 1: is a when I was younger, I went out with
Speaker 1: some bad guys, so I obviously loved to go out
Speaker 1: with a guy that hated me. Anyway, he's all harney
Speaker 1: from looking at her, and then he pushes a shelf
Speaker 1: on her. He like pushes a bookshelf on her. And
Speaker 1: I used to just think I'd love to have a
Speaker 1: bookshelf pushed on me would be so hot, Fad Brady,
Speaker 1: you have fulfilled the criteria of that question so fully
Speaker 1: and isolate you. Well, there's a similar one, just so
Speaker 1: you don't think, oh, she just deliberately picked Chendler's list
Speaker 1: to provoke me a really similar one. Batman Returns. Michelle
Speaker 1: Fifers not yet Catwomen. This is how she becomes Catwomen.
Speaker 1: She's a shy secretary and then Christopher walkins her country boss,
Speaker 1: and I just think he's so attractive and he like
Speaker 1: leans in close to her and he's having a go
Speaker 1: at her, and then she's like and then he leans
Speaker 1: back and shoves her out the window. And I just
Speaker 1: thought that was really her rousing. I just want to
Speaker 1: be shoved out a window and murdered or have a
Speaker 1: bookshelf pushed on me that I do get the Batman
Speaker 1: Returns when that is any moment in that film with
Speaker 1: Michelle having see and it is sixty that scene because
Speaker 1: there's tension because she knows she's caught and he's Chris walking.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great fucking scene. Well. The other
Speaker 1: thing is both these films I saw them before I
Speaker 1: really understood the context of either films. So in Batman Returns,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that she'd I think she'd like stolen
Speaker 1: documents for his evil nuclear power plant. And then in
Speaker 1: Schendler's Left, I didn't understand because I really watched the
Speaker 1: scene before doing this podcast, because I really wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure I didn't see a wrong thing. I really
Speaker 1: didn't understand the context, context of Schendler's left as a child,
Speaker 1: in the context of that whole scene. But I do
Speaker 1: think Steven Spielberg deadn't needs to have that scene interesting.
Speaker 1: But I fancied Ray finds so much. I love a
Speaker 1: man with cold eyes who has no interest in me.
Speaker 1: I get that on the with women colde dead eyed
Speaker 1: woman who yea hates You Delicious? What is objectively the
Speaker 1: greatest film of all time, everything everywhere, all at once,
Speaker 1: I think, fuck, yeah, fuck yeah. I went to see
Speaker 1: that at the cinema, And sometimes you go and see
Speaker 1: a film at the cinema where you're like, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that I saw this at the cinema rather than
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah. I basically was crying from very
Speaker 1: early on, like very very early on in the film,
Speaker 1: and my boyfriend was like, why are you crying, and
Speaker 1: I said, just at the power of cinema. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just love basically, I just love films so much,
Speaker 1: and I felt so happy that they'd made that film,
Speaker 1: and I cried. Well, I laughed a lot at it,
Speaker 1: and I was sort of like cheering and stuff. But
Speaker 1: I cried at that film about about five different points
Speaker 1: in the film. It was it was ridiculous. It's such
Speaker 1: a good film. It's amazing. I cried the last I
Speaker 1: heard of that film. I cried solidly. I think it's
Speaker 1: really incredible that it's so beautiful and it's so lovely
Speaker 1: that watching the interviews with the actors, because they both
Speaker 1: of them sort of felt like there weren't roles for them.
Speaker 1: Whether it's because they're Asian or was Michelle Yo. I
Speaker 1: think because of her age, she just felt like she
Speaker 1: aged out with cinema. But yeah, I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it so much. You're right, that's a fantastic answer,
Speaker 1: And you're right, what is the film you could or have?
Speaker 1: What's the most Over and over again, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: link a one that isn't Fresh Tank. Oh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: My Summer of Love. Oh great? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 1: With Emily Blunt. Yeah, that's a hot film as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see Emily Blunt's boobs. I really fancy Patty Considine.
Speaker 1: So there's like a hot non sex scene between them
Speaker 1: where they like nearly kiss. I think they do cass
Speaker 1: a bet. And it's mad because My Summer of Love
Speaker 1: I think was a novel about U lesbian in like
Speaker 1: the Yorkshire countryside. But then the directors this Polish guy
Speaker 1: that just really fancied making it. But it's such a
Speaker 1: beautifully shot film and it's like the mood of it
Speaker 1: is so good, and Emily Blunt's character is such a bitch.
Speaker 1: Lead actress is amazing. Paddy Constin's amazing, even though he's
Speaker 1: not even in it for that one. Yeah, he's great. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't like to be too negative fans, so let's
Speaker 1: do this quick. What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: Not in Hell? How about that Knowing Hell? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting answer for why I really enjoyed Noting Hell
Speaker 1: when it first came out. I went to see at
Speaker 1: the cinema or rewatched it several times. But I believe
Speaker 1: that Not in Hell and then the whole Richard Curtis
Speaker 1: universe tricked me, and I'm moving to London, a place
Speaker 1: which is nothing like Not in Hell. I've lived in
Speaker 1: London for it's going to be ten years next year.
Speaker 1: I promised myself I'd do ten years, see if I
Speaker 1: could get famous in comedy and then I could finally
Speaker 1: go home, or i'd moved to Glasgow where everyone thanks
Speaker 1: something from growing up. I think that there needs to
Speaker 1: be more films about how London really is, because watching
Speaker 1: Not in Hell, where it's like my name's Will and
Speaker 1: I working at the foot bookshop, it was so miss
Speaker 1: leading to the horror of South London. Every day that
Speaker 1: I live in London, I think I'm going to die,
Speaker 1: and every day there's just fresh human misery. And I
Speaker 1: have a nice life in London. I do the job
Speaker 1: I love, I bought a house here and all that,
Speaker 1: and it's still a horrific place at the end of
Speaker 1: ten years. Realistically, I won't, but I have started up
Speaker 1: a campaign to get my boyfriend to agree to move
Speaker 1: to Scotland. You're in comedy, You're very funny. What's the
Speaker 1: film that made you laugh the most? Oh? A Star
Speaker 1: is Born? Oh my god, So I first watched A
Speaker 1: Star is but I really love what in films on
Speaker 1: planes because I'm usually on Xanax or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I'll always either cry excessively or laugh excessively. And
Speaker 1: I watched A Star is Born on the way back
Speaker 1: from Melbourne and they got if you haven't have you
Speaker 1: seen A Star is Born? So they go, so, how
Speaker 1: do I say this in a way that won't get canceled?
Speaker 1: I have alcoholics in my family, so I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the most sympathetic person towards the idea of alcoholism as
Speaker 1: a disease or whatever. But I understand why that's a
Speaker 1: flawed for you. Anyway. The plot of A Star is
Speaker 1: Born is she's going out with this Alkay and then
Speaker 1: they go to the oscars. He's been on one from
Speaker 1: like seven pm. And then Lady Gaga my Baits of
Speaker 1: Grammy's Lady Gaga gets an award for an album and
Speaker 1: then and she's like, oh baby, can you come up
Speaker 1: on stage? And she gets wasn't name Bradley coopered up
Speaker 1: on stage and he's like, oh so good, and then
Speaker 1: he just starts to pitch himself on stage and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh baby, no, oh no, and she starts to use
Speaker 1: her dress to come. I was screaming, laughing, and I
Speaker 1: remember the person sat next to me just looked at
Speaker 1: looked really disturbed by my reaction. And then my best
Speaker 1: friend Laden, I said to her, you have to watch
Speaker 1: the film A starta is born, so we find a
Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff funny that we both thought
Speaker 1: show Girls was funny. And I said, you and Astara
Speaker 1: is born, this is what happens. And then I was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be with her when she first watched
Speaker 1: that butt and she would go, it's exactly you said,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what happens, and we just were howling laughing.
Speaker 1: Same with my boyfriend. We have the same sense of humor.
Speaker 1: You also found it very, very funny. But then interestingly,
Speaker 1: my best mate said to me, she said, listen, fun
Speaker 1: there's glasses we went to school with. They think this
Speaker 1: is the most poignant thing ever. And I went, no,
Speaker 1: they don't, and she said, they do basic bitches, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, quite basic glasses who their husband
Speaker 1: or their boyfriend just gets pissed every Saturday night and
Speaker 1: makes a fool of them. For them, this is dead poignant.
Speaker 1: And then sure enough, someone that I worked with who
Speaker 1: was really basic an annoyance that doesn't identify them, and
Speaker 1: it's not a British person, so you won't know that
Speaker 1: is I was like stalking her Instagram to like and
Speaker 1: then I saw that she'd posted A Star Was Born
Speaker 1: is such a wonderful film about addiction. It's oh God,
Speaker 1: I love it and I watched I sometimes just get
Speaker 1: that scene up on YouTube to watch it. I'm not
Speaker 1: a monster. Knowing that there's people going unless it's so
Speaker 1: pointed makes me laugh even more. Ben Brady, you have
Speaker 1: been an extraordinary joy. Thank you. You've been wonderful. However,
Speaker 1: when you were out in Catford and a mad person
Speaker 1: shouted at you in the street, and you were so
Speaker 1: angry you shouted back, and you got so mad they
Speaker 1: ran towards you with a knife. They were about to
Speaker 1: stab you twenty times in the back, front and head,
Speaker 1: but before the knife could make contact, your emotions became
Speaker 1: so engaged that your brain exploded and your eyeballs. The guy,
Speaker 1: the mad guy, run towards your knife and just saw
Speaker 1: your eyeballs just popping and they popped out from your
Speaker 1: brain explained, and you fell to the ground and they
Speaker 1: went and I was and through Catfood with a coffee,
Speaker 1: you know how I am, and and I'm like friends,
Speaker 1: I sat alone, maybe we can not eat taste together.
Speaker 1: And then I see this covering around the street and
Speaker 1: fucking hell, what's that? And I see you eyeless brains
Speaker 1: leaking out of your eye sockets. Yeah, and they go,
Speaker 1: oh shit, sorry, guys, I probably need to pick this up.
Speaker 1: But so I've got this coffin, but it's not quite
Speaker 1: the right size, so I'm having to get I go
Speaker 1: to Magoy I can have that note, and we start
Speaker 1: chopping you up into bits, trying to make you smaller. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we stuff you in this coffin, stuff you in, all
Speaker 1: bits of you and all your brains. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: scoop up brains from the from the everything. And then
Speaker 1: there's a peat embedded in your skull. It turns out
Speaker 1: I'm going to chuck to peter your head as well. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't they done it? Oh that's not a thing,
Speaker 1: did they did? I'm afraid of stuff you in. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The coffee is full, it is jammed, and there was
Speaker 1: only enough room in that coffee. And to slip one
Speaker 1: DVD into the side with you to take across to
Speaker 1: the other side and on the other side, maybe night
Speaker 1: every night, what film are you going to show the
Speaker 1: bread people of Heaven in Bread Heaven in the Bread
Speaker 1: Cinema when it is your movie night, fen Brady, Guy,
Speaker 1: fish Tank, it is surprisingly fish Tank, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: This has been Fern Brady. Is there anything you would
Speaker 1: like to tell people to watch, to look out for,
Speaker 1: or to read. Perhaps please read my book also available
Speaker 1: on audiobook and Kendall and it comes out February of
Speaker 1: the sixteenth books called strong female character. But I didn't
Speaker 1: call it that, so it would be No. I didn't
Speaker 1: call it that, like, oh, it's about impoland women. I
Speaker 1: just called it that as a pestic But now people
Speaker 1: think I've called it that. Seriously, Been Brady, you're a
Speaker 1: strong female character. Wonderful talking with you. Thank you very
Speaker 1: much for doing this. Have a wonderful death. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So it was episode two hundred and thirty. Head over
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Speaker 1: I hope you are all well. Have I said that? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean it twice. Come join me next week for
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