1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, we've all seen an unprecedented wave of illegal immigration 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for that matter. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: She is the borders are after all, it was pretty clear. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: When Joe Biden took office that he was going to 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: handle the southern border differently than Donald Trump. And by 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: a handle differently, I mean open borders. That's basically what 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: we've seen. At the very least, over ten million legal 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: immigrants have made their way into the country under Joe Biden. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: Along with that has come crime has come, with terrorists 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: entering the country as well. We also know that a 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: record number of those in the terror watch lists have 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: been found at the southern border under this administration as well. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: But more importantly, we know that this isn't just a 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: crisis for border states and border towns and border cities. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean this has now impacted the rest of the 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: country as well. I mean we've seen even places like 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: New York City, with the population of millions, a sanctuary 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: city where someone like you know, Mayor Adams previously said, hey, 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: you know, everyone come here. You know, we're open door 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: policy to illegal immigrants, now changing his tune. I mean 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: he said not too long ago that never in his 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: life has he seen a problem that he didn't see 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: an ending to and that this issue will destroy New 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: York City. So what about some of these smaller towns 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: that have been impacted by illegal aliens coming. We're going 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: to have robrew the mayor Springfield, Ohio, on the show 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to talk about what's happening in his city. They're only 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: an estimated population of almost sixty thousand, yet they have 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: seen anywhere from twelve thousand to fifteen thousand illegal aliens 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: come to the city of springfielde Ohio. 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: So what kind of impact does that have? 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: How does this city with such a small population brace 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: for that kind of impact? You know, how have they 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: had to reallocate resources? 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Is that even sustainable? What do they do? 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: And gives you kind of a broader perspective of maybe 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: what's happening elsewhere as well. So stay tuned for Robbero, 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: mayor of Springfield, Ohio. Well, Mayor ru it's great to 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: have you on the show. I appreciate you making the time. 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: We thank you for having me. 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: So what's happening in your city is important because you know, 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: so many cities across the country are impacted by it. 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: So you have been a population close to sixty thousand, 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Yet you've had an estimated maybe over ten thousand and 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: more illegal aliens come to your city walk us through. 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: You know what kind of impact has that had on Springfield, Ohio? 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's mid significant. I'll clarify a couple of things 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: just to you know, be fair. I'll speak the same 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: message I do. But we're probably seeing twelve to fifteen 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: thousand these folks are coming across the border. You know, 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: our rapid population increase that we've had is stressing our 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: city services. And it's due to federal immigration and border policies. 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: You know, whether they're illegal or not, they're here under 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: the current administration that has caused us problem. You know, 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: I just want to make that clear. You know, I understand. 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's just very easy for somebody to come 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: across with no accountability, no funds whatsoever and stress cities 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: like ours. 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, are they largely Haitian or where have you 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: noticed that they're they're coming from the. 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: Probably in the last recent years, probably the last three years, 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: we've noticed a larger amount of Haitian individuals in our city. 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: And so if you're you said fifty eight population of 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand, but you've had twelve thousand to fifteen 65 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: thousand come into your city. 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean that that is huge. 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's a substantial change to the dynamics of 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: the city. 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're looking at a budgeted city of sixty thousand, 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: let's say, and with a safety four strength of about 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty to two hundred and sixty, and 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: then you add fifteen twelve to fifteen thousand people to 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: that population, that stresses everybody. And then let's add the 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: language barriers, let's add the general care that's needed. You know, 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: these folks have traveled a long way, uh to come 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: come across into the United States, and uh, it is 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: it is multiple strains and uh, you know the thing 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: that we're seeing also is just that, you know, the 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: folks that live in the Midwest need to have a car, 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: and so folks coming here from across the border may 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: not know how to drive or understand their driving customs, 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: and that's causing significant pain and strain as well. 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you hearing from constituents, because you know, 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: I imagine that you know that kind of changed so quickly 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: in you know, a city of that many people. I mean, 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I assume you're you're hearing a lot from constituents, you know, 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: kind of what's what's the feedback? 88 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Then people are people are concerned, they're concerned about they 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: feel overwhelmed. Uh, it's just new people have different levels 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: and different types of fear, you know, can't you know, 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: I won't say I agreed or I don't agree with 92 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: much of the fear, but it's it's still a concern 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: and uh uh and that's something that we need to 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: pay attention to, you know. But people are definitely concerned 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: about the new immigrant population we've had over the last 96 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: three to four years, you know. 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: And so where do you I mean, obviously you're having 98 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: to reallocate resources, you know, where have you been hit 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: the hardest? 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: I would say safety first forces are public health both 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: are you know, critical hospital as well as our federally 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: funded hospital they're spending you know, money on translation services 103 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: or one critical care hospital is probably spending up to 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: million dollars in the next year on translation services, which 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: that was more like in the one hundred and fifty 106 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: thousand dollars range, you know, just a few years ago. 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 3: Our city schools are you know, if there was maybe 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: one hundred to fifty to two hundred non English speaking 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: four years ago. Now there's fifteen hundred and more coming 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: into our schools. You know. That's just those are things 111 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: that we're seeing as well. 112 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: And does that change the level of learning that students 113 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: are able to receive if you are sort of preoccupied 114 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: trying to figure out that language barrier and are preoccupied 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: with other things. 116 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I would I would definitely say, I'm sure 117 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: there's you know, it takes more time, more concern, for sure, 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: for the individual students. 119 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Have you noticed any difference in sort of crime in 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: the city since you've had this, you know, new wave 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: of individuals from different countries come in. 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: You know, and I'm you know, work closely with you know, 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: our city manager who is the city the chiefs both 124 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: work for our city manager, and I keep close contact 125 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: with them, and you know, I just I just need 126 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: to say, the one thing that we're just not seeing 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: is crime from the Haitian or from the immigrant Haitian community. 128 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: You know what. The only thing all agree that we 129 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: are seeing is an increase in driver crime, driving violations 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: and accidents and and things that are still a deep concern. 131 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: But by and large, we're not now we're seeing crime 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: targeting immigrants here because in many ways they're carrying all 133 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: their belongings on them, they're vulnerable, and so just just 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: saying that's one of the things we're seeing. So but 135 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: I would I would tell you if we're seeing any 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: gang related anything, that that is causing significant cern But 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: we're just not seeing it on the scale that that 138 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: others may be seeing it in different parts of the country. 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, I imagine that there's a level of frustration 140 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: of you know, people who have lived in the city, 141 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: who have grown up in the city, and you know, 142 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: the resources that are meant for them are going to 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: people who potentially came here illegally. 144 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: And and you know necessarily shouldn't be here. 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: Sure, well, the the you know, the benefits that that 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 3: these folks receive, are they present the same they present 147 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: the right paperwork, They received the same benefit as somebody 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: who is in the need of welfare assistance here in 149 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: the in the county. So they would receive that benefit 150 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: if they produced the right paperwork from the federal level. 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's definitely frustrating. Uh, you know, in the 152 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: amount of benefits that are being paid out at the 153 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: federal level from you know, through our partner of Jobs 154 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: and Family Services. Is it's concerning and the staff it 155 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: takes to handle. You know, if you have one hundred 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: people standing in line five days a week, you know, 157 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: at one point there were seventy five percent of those 158 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: folks were immigrants. 159 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, and obviously as mayor, you know you're trying 160 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how to navigate all this. 161 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Are your hands tied at all or you know, what 162 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: are your. 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Options in terms of, you know, can you deport them 164 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: out of the city or kind of you know, what 165 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: are your options as mayor right now? And trying to 166 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: figure out how to navigate this so quickly. 167 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: The way our governments set up is I'm one of 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: five commissioners, and I'm you know, I basically run our 169 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: meetings and ceremonial ahead of our city. So you know, 170 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: as as one of the commissioners, you know, it's it takes. 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: What we can't do is you know, people want to 172 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: know if we can just deport people out here. We can't. 173 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: We report all illegal activity to Ice. What we have 174 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: done though, is we've gotten in front of federal legislators today. 175 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: I was in a meeting of press conference and a 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: meeting with Mike Turner, who is here in our town 177 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: today and uh, he was at our federally funded hospital. 178 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: We had a large meeting with him, and you know, 179 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: he's doing what he can to highlight Springfield and show 180 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: what policies at the federal level and how they're negatively 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: affecting cities like ours, you know, and this, this whole 182 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: the whole policy that was put together by the Homeland 183 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: Security and not through Congress has definitely caused a negative 184 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: impact on our city. 185 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Quick commercial break more with the mayor of Springfield. Stay tuned, 186 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, in Congress. And then also you know, obviously 187 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: decisions that are being made at the White House and 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: with the Biden administration as well, and the decisions that 189 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: were taken and the actions that were taken immediately after 190 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: taking office. 191 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: I imagine this is. 192 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Got to be, you know, so frustrating and so challenging. 193 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Do you know how these individuals have found their way 194 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: to Springfield, Ohio? Where they bust in or how do 195 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: you think they arrived in Springfield, Ohio? 196 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: What I do know is they were they were brought 197 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: in Uh you know, would say Van would go to 198 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: the border. We heard as Miami, and they would fill 199 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: vans with individuals and they would drive them to the 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: community and back and forth. 201 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: Do you know who's funding those vans? 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: You know, I can't. I would say we definitely are 203 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: looking at certain avenues with an investigative eye, using both local, state, 204 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: and federal resources to determine if there's any organized or 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: targeted activity or trafficking activity that would have brought these 206 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: individuals and this many individuals into our community. 207 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: So we've also seen, you know, nngo's play a role in, 208 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, sort of shuffling people around. I guess what's 209 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: the response been from the state, and what's the response 210 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: been from the federal government. 211 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: Governor de Wine been over. We've had meetings with him 212 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: about three times in the last two and a half months. 213 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: Go to the third time will be in about a 214 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: week and a half. You know, he's definitely concerned how 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: it's affecting our city. We're looking for resources to try 216 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: to you know, how we can. There's just no resources 217 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: connected with this. That's the problem. Because of how this 218 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: was pushed through at the federal level, outside of Congress's input, 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: there's no funds attached to it. We learned that from Congress, 220 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: from Turner, and so it's very frustrating because they're just 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: you know, if it was tied to if it was 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: an Act of Congress, then there would be funds attached 223 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: to it. From what we understand, there's not. We're not 224 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: looking for funds. You know, we need help from the 225 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: federal level, Lisa, But we're not looking for funds to 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: fund immigration. We're looking funds to fund our help fund 227 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: our infrastructure that has been taxed by these policies. 228 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: You know, I mean not to be. 229 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: How does Springfield you know, survive long term with sort 230 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: of the strain to resources. 231 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, quite plainly, it's we're at an unsustainable pace. It 232 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: is not sustain We are trying to make our voice 233 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: louder and louder, talking to folks like you and others 234 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: and other interviews to tell our story. You know, it's 235 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: we don't want to you know, sprinklild It is a 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: compassionate city. Part of the reason folks are here is 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: because there is care. People do care. People are you know, 238 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: like I said, we have good services here. But at 239 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: the same point, everybody's heart only has so much capacity, Lisa, 240 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: And then beyond that then there's burnout, and beyond that 241 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: there's frustration. So you have a mix of responses in 242 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 3: our community. But by and large, you know, part of 243 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: the reason folks probably want to be in our communities 244 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: because there's good care and concern here. 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean think that you can have empathy. 246 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: Well you know, still. 247 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: Obviously view reality and the reality and yeah, and the 248 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: logic of this being unsustainable and unfair to you know, 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: the citizens of Springfield, Ohio to have resources taken away 250 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: from them and allocate it, and unfair to you as mayor, 251 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, trying to navigate such a complex system. 252 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: And and and for reference. 253 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: Point, controversial, I mean, yeah, definitely, I've signed up for 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: something and I've not signed up for something that I'm 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: dealing with right now. So it's it's very interesting, you know. 256 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: And for reference point, you know, you've got New York 257 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: City really struggling to deal with an influx and you know, 258 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about it a city with you know, almost 259 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: eight million people that live there that they're drained financially, 260 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, they can't handle it. And and for for you, 261 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: with such a much smaller city, you know, much greater 262 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: impact in terms of you know the numbers by. 263 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: That's per capita. 264 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know me. 265 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything that we're missing in the story. Is 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: there anything else you'd like to add? Is there anything 267 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: you'd like to you know, kind of say to the 268 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: to the federal government and this White House for for 269 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: help in. 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: This I would ask the White House to wake up 271 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: and help help cities like ours that have been affected 272 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: by their policies. You know, we went to d C 273 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: with the invitation of Congressman Turner and sat in front 274 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: of representatives from Homeland Security and it was just a 275 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: bit shocked on how I don't believe they understand how 276 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: their decisions have affected cities like Springfield, Ohio. And that 277 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: was pretty frustrating. And uh, you know, we went there, 278 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: we spoke, our we plt our case. We felt heard, 279 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: but you know, we're looking for action. And you know, 280 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: we told you know, we appreciate a converce from Turner 281 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: and and Governor Dwayne and and uh and uh even 282 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: shared Brown has has listened, but we need people to 283 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: we need action now and uh and I believe that's 284 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: what we're going to have after today. 285 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Did you feel like the response was you know, ignorance, 286 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: and and sort of not you know, and being unaware 287 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: or just indifference and not caring. 288 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, are you talking about my trip to DC? 289 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Yes, the trip, I would say, I. 290 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: Would say more the response. I think they wanted to 291 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: take the conversation one way and explain benefits that are 292 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: available and what can be done to folks that have 293 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: come across. And I had to redirect, actually interrupted the 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: conversation with one of the assistant directors. I said, I mean, 295 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: with all due respect, this is this is not why 296 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: we're here in d C. We're here to tell you that, 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: you know, we are overwhelmed, and we're not We're not worried, 298 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: you know, we're not. I mean I just wanted to 299 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: tell us how many beds were available in Detroit to 300 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: put put immigrants, you know, for committing crimes, and like, 301 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: we don't we don't have that problem. I mean, we 302 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: have driver crime, but we don't have like felonious crime. 303 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: You know, at this point, we need help and we 304 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: need you all to wake up and tell and help 305 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: us with the policies you put together. And that's been 306 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: the concern. I don't know if they've listened. I'd like 307 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: to know they've listened. 308 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I wonder too, just because you know, this has become 309 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: such a you know, political issue, which it shouldn't. It 310 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: should just be you know, common sense and doing the 311 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: right thing and you know, managing the border and you 312 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: know all these different things. But you know, has that 313 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: made it more challenging? 314 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: Do you think? Oh? 315 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely? But I will say in our city, both sides 316 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: of the aisle, both political views. People people care about 317 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: people in our town, both sides, and we want to 318 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: try to do this right. So in our community, maybe 319 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: the divide is not so stark on the political line 320 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: when it comes to how these folks need to be 321 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: cared for. But there is there is others that are, 322 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: you know, very much like these folks don't belong here. This, 323 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: this isn't right, And you know we pay attention to 324 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: that as well. But I mean it's you know, I'm 325 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: not trying to paint a picture. It's it's both and 326 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: we have we have both extremes, like the entire nation, 327 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: we have both extremes at work in our community as well. 328 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it sounds like you're just trying to 329 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: do the best you can with a very complicated and 330 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: complex issue. 331 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: This is a part time job for me. I have 332 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: a full career outside of it. So I'm just trying 333 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: to navigate something. 334 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, which seems to have happened in short order. 335 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: If this has really just been I think you said 336 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: in the last you know, three years or so. 337 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: The the the mass, the mass influx, the influx of people. 338 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: I think three to four years is accurate. 339 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: After COVID, just after cod interesting. 340 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Rob Brew, Springfield, Ohio, we appreciate you coming on the 341 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: show and breaking down this issue for us and letting 342 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: us know what's happening in your city. 343 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, Lis, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. 344 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: That was Mayor Rob Rew of Springfield, Ohio. Appreciate him 345 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: for taking the time to join this show. Appreciate you 346 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but 347 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank 348 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together.