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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Chargers podcast network.

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Speaker 1: If you're a little confused today, we are obviously not

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry and Matt money Smith. My name is Stephen Haglan.

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Speaker 1: This is my co host, Tyler Shoon. We are the

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Speaker 1: Guilty as Charged podcast. We are not replacing those two,

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Speaker 1: so you will still see those two coming on your

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Speaker 1: and we are so stoked to be here. We could

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Speaker 1: not be more grateful and honored to the Chargers organization

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Speaker 1: and social teams and production teams to having reached out

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Speaker 1: to us about this idea, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 1: months ago, and we're gonna give it everything we have.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is gonna be a great new partnership

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Speaker 1: for us. And if you're familiar with our work, you know,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. If you're not, hopefully you stick around. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is something that is a huge opportunity for us

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Speaker 1: and we can't wait to dive in. So Tyler, what's

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Speaker 1: up man? How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, Steven, We're here on the Chargers YouTube

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Speaker 2: network and their podcast feed I'm feeling pretty darn good.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a thing. In January, when

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Speaker 2: there was this idea of a partnership, we figured cool,

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Speaker 2: so like we'll get to interview maybe another guy or

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Speaker 2: still be the case. But when things were outlined to

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Speaker 2: us about what this was going to be, you and I,

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Speaker 2: I think we had pretty good poker faces during the meeting,

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Speaker 2: but after school I called you like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my gosh, Yeah, we were freaking out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely it was. This is really a

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Speaker 2: dream come true. It's going to go on my mount

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Speaker 2: rushmore of accomplishments next to getting married, getting at diploma,

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Speaker 2: having kids, and the Chargers on their podcast feed. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe this is the thing. And again thinking to

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Speaker 2: the whole organization everyone for getting behind us and making

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Speaker 2: this work. I mean, what we have in store, we

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Speaker 2: the pipeline, it's going to be pretty spectacular. This is new,

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Speaker 2: this is different. It's kind of unprecedented for the Charges

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Speaker 2: really to have this kind of access for I mean,

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Speaker 2: who are we I don't know what we're doing here.

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Speaker 2: Did someone lose a bet? But here we are, like,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this is happening, and I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to do this moving forward with the Chargers and of

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Speaker 2: course with you, Steven Stephen. How are you feeling, I'm

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Speaker 2: doing great.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little there's a lot of nervous excitement energy

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Speaker 1: this is a big deal for us, and obviously this

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Speaker 1: loyal listeners over the past four years and just you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been able to build a really strong community that way.

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Speaker 1: So before we get started in our first show on

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Speaker 1: the Chargers channel, we do have to say we are fans.

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Speaker 1: We are not employees of the Chargers. Our opinions that

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Speaker 1: we express every single Tuesday are not reflective of the

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Speaker 1: Chargers organization themselves. So we are going to do our best,

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Speaker 1: obviously to provide honest and object active analysis as we

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Speaker 1: have the last four years. Sometimes that might be a

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Speaker 1: Chargers employee might feel. Again, we are not employees. We

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Speaker 1: So our our opinions are not reflective one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of the time of the organization. So that being said,

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Speaker 1: the the bow on our pre draft coverage. So we've

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Speaker 1: some players that we are really pounding the table for,

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Speaker 1: And then we are going to do a mock draft

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Speaker 1: gonna try and attack that angle predicting who the Chargers

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Speaker 1: who's an offensive prospect let's say, outside of your first

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Speaker 2: It has to be the guy that's been one of

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Speaker 2: my favorites this whole time that I've mocked drafted to

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Speaker 2: thirty seven times. And that's running back ty J. Spears

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Speaker 2: out of Tulane. When we start evaluating prospects, we tend

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Speaker 2: players like last year for wide receiver, it was Jarriff

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Speaker 2: Everything about him just screams this is a really solid,

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Speaker 2: he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're being fans of ty J. Spears on this show.

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Speaker 1: I think we've, like you said, mocked him on each

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Speaker 1: He's been selected to the Chargers, So you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: see ultimately what happens with him, you know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of the medical situation, but you know, on tape from

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Speaker 1: somebody that really checks the versatility box that I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are particularly looking for. So again, these guys

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Speaker 1: it works out so far. So John Gaines has experienced

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Speaker 1: his best position could ultimately be center. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of you know, position flex for him, which I

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Speaker 1: high level athletic traits in terms of his length, in

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Speaker 1: terms of his explosiveness, really able to get off the

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Speaker 1: the kind of zone schemes that we know Killan Moore

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Speaker 1: have have been able to kind of do some research

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Speaker 1: over that underdog Fantasy Sports, and you know, every single

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Speaker 1: basically gone on to be a long term starter in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And John Gains is the only into your

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman from this class to hit that number. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a cheat code to get somebody who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not realize that Darius Rush had that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Tyler. One more quick one here,

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Speaker 2: That would be Penn State's Giu Brown. When I saw

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Speaker 1: snaps at Purdue come from the slot. He's able to

432
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: go out and do that, and he's got a contested

433
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 1: catch rate that's right up there with Michael Mayor's as well.

434
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: So he's somebody that he can work the seams, he

435
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: can work as an inline blocker, he can do some

436
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: h back stuff. I mean, this guy took a fullback

437
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: diver about the Senior Bowl as well, just for good measure.

438
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of versatility there, somebody

439
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore would have a lot of fun with.

440
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: And you know, he's not the most explosive athletic tight

441
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: end in this class. You know a lot of those

442
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: guys will go earlier than him. But when it comes

443
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: to you know, day three, if the charters have not missed,

444
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: if they have not been able to find a tight end.

445
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: Pain Durham is somebody I think, would you know, come

446
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: in and really be able to marry the run game

447
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: in the past game like Brandon Staley has talked about

448
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: a lot this offseason. So he plays like somebody whose

449
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: name is pain, Like he wants to hurt you as

450
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: much as he possibly can within the legal rules of football.

451
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: So he's somebody who's a lot of fun to watch

452
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: and I think he checks a good amount of boxes

453
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: for teams who want like a Day three, physical blocking

454
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: tight end who can also offer some receiving upside as well.

455
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on my list of my guys. I wasn't

456
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 2: sure how many we'd get to, but Payon Durham was

457
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: one of those guys and also just an underrated guy.

458
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: There are several tight ends in this class. Maybe it's

459
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: because of the tight end class overall, but these guys

460
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 2: are really, really solid. I totally get that. But Durham

461
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: isn't all that different than most of them, and frankly,

462
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: I think he's better than some of them. Yet you

463
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: see him at one eighty or two hundred on boards

464
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: and I just don't buy that. And that was a

465
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: great comparison to Michael Mayer. I believe the difference between

466
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: them and yards after the catch per perception is zero

467
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: point two yards. Maybe I'm making that up. I don't know,

468
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: but neither of them are exis yack guys, not speed guys,

469
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: maybe not like a Will Mallory type for example, but

470
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: both really solid players. And I love that way of

471
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: looking at things. I know Brett Coleman for example, and

472
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: them on the Bootleg Football podcast they do another guys

473
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: sort of thing where if you can't get this guy

474
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: in round one, round two, who can you get later?

475
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: And Pain Durham is a guy I always circle back to.

476
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: If I don't get someone in the first three rounds,

477
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: I can always get Pain Durham two rounds later and

478
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: feel almost just as good.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when it comes to the Chargers specifically,

480
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, we know that. Excuse me, Jerald Everrett is

481
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: going to be that big wide receiver almost he can

482
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: he can block for sure, you know in the regard

483
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: Donald Parham does a lot of the inline stuff too,

484
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: But they need somebody who can you know, add some

485
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: some in terms of the blocking game, and I think

486
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: Pain Durham would do that. I think Michael Mayer would

487
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: do that as well for what it's worth. Absolutely all right,

488
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: So let's get to the bulk of our show here,

489
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: you know, and that is our final mock draft of

490
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Speaker 1: the cycle. We're going to try and attack this with

491
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: a predictive sense in terms of just instead of picking

492
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: the guys that we all really like, you know, we

493
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: are going to try and you know, put our Tom

494
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: to Lasco, Brandon stay camps on and figure out potentially

495
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: who might be you know, the ultimate pick come Thursday night,

496
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: Friday night. We're also going to talk about some trade

497
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: down selections as well if that ultimately comes up. So, Tyler,

498
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: let's get let's get started here. I can't wait to

499
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Speaker 1: do our final mock draft of the cycle.

500
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, here we go, all.

501
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: Right, So let's go over really quickly who came off

502
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: the board before the Chargers picked, and then we'll look

503
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: at some of the options that are on the board.

504
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: Some guys that went off the board, and one of

505
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: them being Zay Flowers went to the Seahawks at twenty,

506
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: So there goes that entire discussion. Dalton Kincaid at eighteen

507
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: to the Lions. That's a lot of fun. Miles Murphy

508
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: to the Packers, Quinton Johnston to the Patriots and Jackson

509
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba to the Titans, which hurts my soul

510
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: a bit. That's okay, and then Lucas van Nest the Eagles,

511
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: which I believe is picking up some team. So you

512
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: want to talk about who is left, and we're looking at,

513
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: of course, Bijon Robinson, Jordan Addison, Brian Branch, Michael Mayer,

514
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Kalijah Canci, Brian Brazzy, Jamior Gibbs, and Will McDonald. That

515
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: feels like kind of the cut off there for guys

516
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: they'd be looking at.

517
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is an interesting scenario. I do think

518
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Will Levis, who's on the board here, will ultimately be

519
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: off the board at this point. But this is exactly

520
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: what you're looking for in terms of potential trade down scenarios, right, Like,

521
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us would have a hard

522
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: time with them trading off of Jon Robinson. But maybe

523
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: in this instance you could call the Buffalo Bills and say, hey,

524
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: come offer us your third round pick, we'll move down

525
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: and we can maybe get some kind of impact player

526
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: at twenty seven. You know, the Cowboys of course need

527
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: a running back in the post. Ezekiel Elliott World. So

528
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Like I said me personally,

529
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I would have a hard time passing on Jon Robinson

530
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: in this kind of scenario. But I do think, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: having him, Jordan Andison, Darnell Wright, these guys who some

532
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: of these teams in the back half of the twenties

533
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: might be vying for, might be a real possible trade

534
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: down scenario, which Brandon Staley and Tom Telesco I've talked

535
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: about a few times in this cycle so far.

536
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know all the needs of every team,

537
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: but someone like the Bills, like you mentioned, is a

538
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: great call for Addison, someone like Darnell Right, maybe Michael Mayer,

539
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 2: depending on what the Bengals want. So there are definitely

540
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: some options there. I would love to slide to about

541
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: twenty seven or later. So twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,

542
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: thirty read Daniel Popper's article from The Athletic. Plenty of

543
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: different scenarios there. So in most instances, I'm screaming to

544
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: trade down because I would love to trade down. The

545
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Chargers need it, you know, Herbert's about to get his

546
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: big deal at some point. Yeah, and you're going to

547
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: need more rookies and frankly, if all you did was

548
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: get a sixth rounder out of trading down, I'd be

549
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: happy because look at who the Charges have taken in

550
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: the sixth round the last couple of years. I mean,

551
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: I'd love to get another shot at a Jamari Sallier

552
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: or Jah Tailor like they just did this past season.

553
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: So ye, you know, of course I'd like more than that.

554
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: I would love a top seventy five pick. I'd love

555
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: a third rounder, but even if you trade down a

556
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: little bit, I'd be happy with that. With that said,

557
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: if Bejon Robinson is here at twenty one, I do

558
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: not believe for one second the Chargers would move off

559
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: of that pick.

560
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something that we've talked a lot about

561
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the athletic aspect of how the Chargers

562
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: do business in the first round in particular, and you

563
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: look at how important the athletic testing is to the Chargers,

564
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: and we've seen that over the past few years, past

565
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: few past few years, whether that's obviously the recently Zion

566
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: and Rashaan Slater, but also Kenneth Murray was an elite

567
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: ARIS tester. You know, Derwin James obviously another elite ARIS

568
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: score for himself. So the Chargers have really prioritized elite

569
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: athleticism in the first round. I think it's one of

570
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: the reasons why they've been able to have a lot

571
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: of success in the first round under Tom Telasco. And

572
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: you've pointed this out several times as well, Like idealing

573
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: in the first round, you're looking for a player who

574
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: has that combination of the athletic test of the character

575
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: of the elite film so to speak. And also you know,

576
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: like the position value we can talk about, but you know,

577
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: I think of the players on this board, the only

578
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: one who checks all of those boxes is Bjon Robinson.

579
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Like I know that there's a lot of people out

580
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: there who kind of devalue the running back position. And

581
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers have Austin Eckler and we can

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: certainly talk about that that as well. But to me,

583
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: if Bijon's on the board, like that's a no brainer,

584
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm sprinting that card in because he checks so many

585
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: boxes for them. And yes, you could point it from

586
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a well, this is taking the ball out of justin

587
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Herbert's hands, so to speak. But both Eckler and b

588
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson can work as as as receivers. You know,

589
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: the coaches at Texas wanted to really emphasize Bjon's ability

590
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: to run routes from from the receiving room. And when

591
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Roshan Johnson as your running mate,

592
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: like you're able to do that. But you know, there

593
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: are some reps against Iowa State in particular, where he's

594
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: in the slot running a post route right or against

595
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: Alabama where he's running a wheel route from the backfield.

596
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: And I think that Kellen Moore would have so much

597
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: fun being able to utilize Beijon Robinson as a chess piece,

598
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: not just a stereotypical running back. And I think that's

599
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: how a lot of anti running back types really need

600
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: to view Bejon. He's not just like he's not a

601
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: ground and pound running back, Like he can do so

602
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: many different things for you. So ultimately, if he is

603
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: on the board for the Chargers, I think you absolutely

604
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: have to sprint this card in and select him.

605
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: I would one percent agree. And in this case, you know,

606
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: if there's an edge rusher here, different conversation. But I

607
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: just don't believe that. I mean, there's a lot of

608
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: connections to Addison. Of course, I like the player a

609
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: lot both of us do. He would be an excellent

610
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: addition to the Chargers. I just they have to show

611
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: me that they're willing to change the way they've drafted

612
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: or signed receivers in the past for me to believe

613
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: that they'll actually do this. So if they take Addison

614
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: or they take Zay Flowers, if he's there, I'll go, hey, okay,

615
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: now I know that they are willing to do that.

616
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: But you know, someone like Zay Flowers with height or Addison,

617
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean Jordan Adison. They're prototype at wide receivers I

618
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: think like two hundred and three pounds, and that's including

619
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore's receivers as well. And Jordan Adison is one

620
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: seventy one. That's one pound lighter than Travis Benjamin. No shade,

621
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: like hey, cool light, heavy, whatever. It's just not what

622
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: the Chargers have been doing in the draft. Now, I

623
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: get it. Why would they do the same things they've

624
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: been doing. Why would they go after another, you know,

625
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: bigger type. I totally get those questions. But until the

626
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Chargers are ready to look at the receiver position differently,

627
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: or at least in terms of the guys that they

628
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: select or sign, I got to assume that Addison, while

629
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: a fantastic player, is not really as much in consideration here.

630
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 2: And frankly, I do believe there's enough guys later on

631
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: where I'm okay passing on him, of course, Branch, So yeah,

632
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: to me, this is Bejon Robinson.

633
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if you trade down and Addison's still there,

634
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I think that becomes more of a conversation. But in

635
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: this instance, we're gonna take Beijon and be very with

636
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: this pick.

637
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we're just pandering to the new audience who

638
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: found us on here. If we didn't pick Bijon, we'd

639
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: be kicked off the stream immediately.

640
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, and if it's right, and if

641
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: it's with the theme channel, right, we know Matt money

642
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Smith and Chris Harry love the potential of adding Bijon

643
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: Robinson as well. All Right, so pick fifty four here,

644
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: let's look at some players recently off the board. Obviously

645
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: two belowtu right there for the Bears, and then we'll

646
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: look at add it to mian At Cody Mak the

647
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: offensive tackle from not from North Dakota State, almost a

648
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame there, Felix Andre d ku Ozama, who's somebody

649
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: I would really like to be there at fifty four,

650
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Steve Avila, Keon White, Bijono Jeli, So lots are not

651
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Bijon bj Ojalari, So a little bit of a run

652
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: on edge Rusher here. So Tyler, let's go. Let's look

653
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: at some options here at fifty four.

654
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so some of the options available in terms of

655
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: the consensus board. Linebacker Drew Sanders, running back Zach Sharboney,

656
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: safety Antonio Johnson, ed rusher Isaiah Foski. There's your no connection,

657
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: Julius Brent, who would be awesome here as well, Ed

658
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: rusher Derek Hall, who I do believe fits some of

659
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: their physical prototypes. Keanu Benton, who's getting a lot of buzz.

660
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. Of course, there's a lot of really good

661
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: players here. We can specifically look at a different position

662
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: if you want, but those are the guys really in

663
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: the consensus board.

664
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's look at wide receiver because I know that

665
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of love out there for this wide

666
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: receiver class too. So looks like we got your guy,

667
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Sedric Tillman on here. Marra Mims, so we mentioned briefly

668
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: on the show earlier, Tank Dell that's Nathaniel Dell, Tyler Scott,

669
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo at Perry Jane Reed. So this is really

670
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: why I'm a big proponent personally of not taking a

671
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round, because you can get

672
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: a board like this and have a lot of different

673
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: options here. So, Tyler, where are you potentially focusing at

674
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: in terms of wide receiver for the Chargers here.

675
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: There's been something in my brain for weeks now, and

676
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: it's only gotten worse and worse. That's Jonathan Mingo here.

677
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Although when we lasted our mock draft with Chargers wire,

678
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I can wait for him in

679
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: the fourth round. That's fine, he'll be there now. Daniel

680
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Jeremiah is talking about him as a potential first rounder.

681
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to happen, but there

682
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: are there are so many receivers even just looking here,

683
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: there are so many good receivers here. I'm sure Josh

684
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Downs went a bit earlier too. There's so many good

685
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: receivers here, but they all have some size question marks.

686
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Even if you love some of these players. I have

687
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Marvin Mims over Jonathan Mingo, right, I have someone over Mingo. Obviously,

688
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: these guys are great players, but you worry about that

689
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: size profile. To me, Mingo just checks so many of

690
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers boxes, both in terms of the physical profile

691
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: as well as just kind of what they're lacking. And

692
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm obviously going for Mingo here, so I might as

693
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: well talk about him if you. Unfortunately, on screens last season,

694
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I noticed that Josh Palmer had a concussion on one,

695
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: and Keenan on FuMB against the Chiefs on another one,

696
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: and Mike Williams fractured his back on another screen. I'd

697
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 2: love for Mingo to try those out, because I do

698
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: think he presents a physical type in terms of speed

699
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: and twitch that I think is maybe more desirable for

700
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: those situations. He hit, as someone posted today, twenty two

701
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: point one miles per hour I believe, which was ninety

702
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: ninth percentile. It was that goball against Vanderbilt, which of

703
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: course the quarterback underthrew. He caught it at the one

704
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: yard line, so good for him, but wasn't a touchdown there. Yeah,

705
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: you want a shallow crosser, some guy with yak, some

706
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: guy who can take a screen, you name it. I

707
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: can point you to any different part of a film

708
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: of the film on some different game where he's doing

709
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: something that I just think the Chargers are lacking at

710
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: this point, and you get to continue to have your

711
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: Keenanan do what he does and Mike Williams do what

712
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: he does, and Josh Palmer can continue to develop. Someone

713
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: like Mingo you can add to the room and do

714
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: so much with him without having to compromise the development

715
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: of a Josh Palmer or the investment you've made in

716
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Keenan and Mike. Mingo is someone who can round out

717
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: your boom, do so many things for you while again

718
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: not compromising the investments you've made in the receiver position.

719
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: If anything, it just complements it perfectly.

720
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. From a science profile standpoint, from a physical profile standpoint,

721
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: Mingo definitely stands out in this class. You know, his

722
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: ability to get vertical against press and against off coverage

723
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: is really something that has stood out to me. He

724
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: was a big Senior Bowl standout as well, and we

725
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: know that that is a very important aspect to the

726
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Charges and how they do business under Tom Telesco. So

727
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: Mingo is definitely in consideration here. I do want to

728
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: look briefly at the cornerback class. If we could go

729
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: to that group, obviously DJ Turner and Julius Brants, Tyreek Stevenson,

730
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips here, so Darius Rush my guy who I

731
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier today. So this is a really stacked cornerback group.

732
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: And you know, we have kind of talked about the

733
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: potential of the Chargers looking at cornerback earlier than people

734
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: might think, because of Michael Davis being a free agent

735
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: next year, because of j C. Jackson potentially starting the

736
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: year not at one hundred percent. So I mean, he's

737
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: been looking great in his recovery videos. He posted a

738
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: video earlier last week of him running for the first time,

739
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: So hoping for the best there. But from the Chargers perspective,

740
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, we know how much brand and say the

741
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: values cornerback here. So I'm tempted. I'm really tempted to

742
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: take Julius Brents from Kansas State the cornerback who could

743
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: give them just a different kind of size profile, physicality

744
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: profile at the cornerback position. Could be your heir apparent

745
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: to Michael Davis after next season. So I I would

746
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: my heart would tell me mingo. But I do think

747
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: there's a little part of my brain that's saying, like, hey,

748
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers might look at cornerback in this in this

749
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: scenario two.

750
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brents is definitely that player. If he falls that,

751
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: I think they would certainly consider just a physical prototype

752
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: again at the position, someone that they would look at

753
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: and say, hey, that's like fits what we want to do,

754
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to be the guy day one,

755
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So it really just comes down

756
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: to the big question of how is JC progressing. Is

757
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: he going to be available by week four, in which

758
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: case you have three starters, or is this going to

759
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: be an entire season of him not getting completely healthy? Yeah,

760
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: then maybe heading into the postseason he's finally got the

761
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: reps underneath him. I don't know. If it were a

762
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: more catastrophic I guess a worse outlook prognosis for one J. C. Jackson,

763
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: then maybe I would consider Brent's here more over Mingo.

764
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: But I'm still looking at a receiver at this point.

765
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: Although there is a decent shot you can get Mingo

766
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: in this simulation. You can get him in round three,

767
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't mind doing that because Brents isn't going

768
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: to be there in round three. In the simulation, Mingo

769
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: is going to be there. Or potentially could be there

770
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: in round three. But if you look at ESPN's analytics model,

771
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: there's only an eight percent chance that Mingo is going

772
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: to be there in round three. So even though on

773
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: this board he he's eighty fourth or whatever he is,

774
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: there's only eight percent chance he's going to be there. Now,

775
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: do you have to take Mingo? Is your entire draft

776
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: built around taking him? I don't think so. I just

777
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: I have a hard time passing up someone who fits

778
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: the Chargers I think so well, and checks all of

779
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: their boxes because as we get to you know, some

780
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: later points. Yes, there are some guys who fit their

781
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: physical prototype, let's say at Perry or even later like

782
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Bryce Ford Wheaton. Those guys fit what they're looking for.

783
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: I just don't know that compliments the room. And then

784
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't really know if someone like Mims or Tyler

785
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Scott or Tank Dell are some of the Chargers would

786
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: be interested in. So to me, it's wide receiver or

787
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: its corner. Maybe an edge rusher if he's here, Someone

788
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: like Isaiah Fosky, you know who, I think should be

789
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: talked about more as an option for the Chargers. I

790
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: know people aren't a huge fan but hey, productive player

791
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: fits their prototype, fits what they would want. Went to

792
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is really good against the run. I understand

793
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: why they took him here too. So really what we're

794
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: talking about here is a premium position after running back.

795
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: You have to invest in those premium positions because that's important.

796
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: And we saw last year the Chargers, you know, not

797
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: have the hottest season because of you know, corner deficits

798
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: or edge rushers or wide receivers. So I think investing

799
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: in either of those year is great. I'll defer to

800
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: you on this one. If you want Brent, I'm totally

801
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: happy with that. He's ahead of Mingo on my big board,

802
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: so I would get it. So I'll defer to you

803
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: on this one.

804
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, really quickly. In terms of the edge rushers, I

805
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: think if you miss out on the first one in

806
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: a first rounder, I think you probably are waiting and

807
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: maybe you know, calling convent oily back up after the

808
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: draft and saying like, hey, come come back. We'll do

809
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: the same thing with you as last year, and then

810
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: you address your long term need there later on in

811
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: the drafter or next year. So for me, like I'm

812
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to become a more explosive team and that that

813
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: can be accomplished through getting a cornerback who can give

814
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: you some more interceptions, more hands on the footballs, or

815
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: you can talk about a wide receiver. So I know

816
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: that he's lower. I do think that Mingo would ultimately

817
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: be a strong consideration here, and just you know, take

818
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: this offense up a completely different notch with Jon Robinson

819
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: and Mingo. So it's not gonna give us the best

820
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: draft grade here, but with how much smoke there is

821
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: about him potentially being like even a first round first

822
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: round player. Yeah, if you want Mingo, you gotta take

823
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: him in fifty four. And I think both of us

824
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: feel the same way that we we really want Mingo

825
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: on this offense.

826
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a player that was in like the

827
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: one fifties a month and a half ago, and now

828
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: he's already at eighty four and I'm sure he'll keep

829
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: creeping up into the seventies by the time we get

830
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: to draft night. I'm happy with Mingo here. Yeah, go

831
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: watch some of him. He's fantastic. C plus yeah yeah,

832
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: my math grade, let's do this.

833
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only C plus I ever got in high

834
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: school was in pre calculus, So you know math is hard.

835
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, the only C plus. Sorry someone, I was

836
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: a B student.

837
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I was a B student. I was not like a

838
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: four point zero guy, but you know I could do

839
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: just enough. All right, let's let's look at some again

840
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: some options here. We'll pick up the pace a little

841
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: bit now that we're through the top fifty options. Here.

842
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: You can see on your screen here for those watching

843
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker, looks like there's a bit of a running

844
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: back run here, So that is the case here. Tyler Scott,

845
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: the wide wide receiver from Cincinnati, still on the board.

846
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: He's a smaller guy, but I think he could help

847
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers and potentially give them some return ability as well.

848
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I saw Tyreek Stevens in the cornerback from Miami. There,

849
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft the tight end from South Dakota. So some

850
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: good options here. Again, I do think the offensive playmaker standpoint.

851
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: I love Day two in terms of adding to the offense. So, Tyler,

852
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: where are you looking at here? I know we've talked

853
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: about potentially adding a defensive line in round three or

854
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: maybe you know, and center of the future is something

855
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: that Chargers fans have really kind of highlighted. So where

856
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: are you at here with pick eighty five.

857
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't take a dB before I got to

858
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: take one pretty soon, and it certainly depends on who's there.

859
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: I think both of us have Antonio Johnson over D'artavius Martin,

860
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: but Johnson here, Martin here, even Sidney Brown here. To

861
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: an extent, I think Chris Smith definitely fits the free

862
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: safety prototype for Brandon Stale, and of course working or

863
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: playing for Georgia, that makes sense. I didn't watch Battle,

864
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: so I can't actually comment on him, but here, you

865
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: know a corner would be good. You watch Stevenson and Williams,

866
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: so I'd have to defer to you on that one.

867
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Of course, Hodges Tomlinson is there, but I don't think

868
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: that's where they go here, So to me, I do

869
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: think we have to go defense. I do think you

870
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: can wait just a tiny bit more for tight end

871
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: if we didn't get one of those first Kropa guys

872
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: or second crop of guys. Edge rusher on this board

873
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: is a bit dicey. Zach Harrison is an athlete for sure,

874
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: but doesn't quite fit what the Chargers we're looking for.

875
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: So the best players available here I think are the safeties,

876
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: and maybe Tuckercraft. I do think Dravon Dexter is in

877
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: play for them. Not the longest dryms, but he's very,

878
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: very tall and great against the run, So I think

879
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: that's in consideration. But to me, I'd love a defensive

880
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: back Yeard, what do you think?

881
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree. I think at this point you are

882
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: again doing the Calvin O. I think in terms of

883
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: the edge rushers, because I think Zach Harrison, we both

884
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: really like him, but it doesn't really like fit, so

885
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: to speak, like a three four outside linebacker edge type.

886
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Right that, obviously the Chargers will be running here, so

887
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm going through the cornerback room. I think there is

888
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: a chance you could maybe see them reach for like

889
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: a Cayu Blue Kelly in the assistance. I think he

890
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: is pretty similar to like a Jaw Taylor. But I

891
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: love the ability to potentially take Tyreek Stevenson, who's a bigger,

892
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: more physical corner. Maybe put him in the slot full time.

893
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: That is something he did at Georgia. Maybe put him

894
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: as a hybrid safety slot kind of player here. Give

895
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers some more size in the slot. So that's

896
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: something that we've really focused in on in this class,

897
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: is getting more size into the room alongside Michael Davis,

898
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: and I think Tyrek Stevenson could check that box. And

899
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: then next year, you know, you put him outside in

900
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: place of Michael Davis. So I'm going with Tyrek Stevens

901
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: in here, if that's my choice.

902
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: Sounds good, I believe you. It sounds like he's great.

903
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: I did not watch him, but I defer to you,

904
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: and we're not typically too far off anyway, So yeah,

905
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: Stevenson for me, sounds good to me.

906
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go corner here and then fourth round

907
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: is gonna be really interesting to see how the board

908
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: plays out. Again, we have not taken a tight end

909
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: at this point. Chargers do need some intier offensive line

910
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: help as well as some into your defensive line help

911
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: at this point too, So it's gonna be interesting to

912
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: see who ultimately is on the board at this point.

913
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: So for our audio audience, so far, we got Bejon

914
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Robinson the first round, Jonathanmingo, the wide receiver from Ole

915
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Miss in the second round, and the cornerback from Tyber

916
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Stevenson just now at pick eighty five.

917
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Alrighty, thank you for your trade offers. We're not going

918
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: to take them, all righty, Okay, so we have our

919
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: running back of a bute receiver, we have our corner.

920
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad we took a defensive back. I'm curious how

921
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: they feel about the safety room overall, especially in terms

922
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: of free safety. But at this point, let's look at

923
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: the tight ends. Luke scoon Maker Zach Koons I think

924
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: are both player here. Obviously, Yeah, I almost feel like

925
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: the Chargers would prefer Schoonmaker here over Coons, even if

926
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: he's maybe has a higher grade. But Schoonmaker is more

927
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: that traditional inline blocking type. Coons I think can do that,

928
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: and it's not like it wasn't his role, but I

929
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: trust Schoonmaker for that more, and so I think that

930
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: they might be looking at him here in terms of

931
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: tight end. Who else is available? We have our receiver,

932
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: but you could consider Jaden Reid corner Eli Ricks.

933
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I would say really quickly, sorry to cut you off.

934
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: Nick Herbig from Wisconsin is interesting to me. He has

935
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: played some edge rusher at Wisconsin. He's kind of that

936
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of profile that Wisconsin really likes to do, so

937
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: they kind of do like a three three five defense

938
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: that's in vogue. So he can play off the ball,

939
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: he can play as an edge rusher that might be

940
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: kind of like a Kyle van Noy replacement in terms

941
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: of somebody younger. You know, Drew Sanders is probably that

942
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: guy earlier, if you want to take one earlier, at

943
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: maybe fifty four. So Nick Herbig is least worth talking

944
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: about for me. I don't know if you've watched him yet,

945
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: but he does have some of that calvan Oi versatility

946
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: that I think would kind of fill a role for them.

947
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not watched him. What is his RIS profile,

948
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: do you know? Because it tends to be that range,

949
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: that fourth fifth round range which a LESCo takes an athletic.

950
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Not that he's a linebacker, but linebacker. So okay, not

951
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: the tallest guy, but good speed grade. Don't get much

952
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: on him there, didn't let to do a lot of testing. Okay. Interesting,

953
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: I have not watched her Big, so maybe I'll just

954
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: defer to you again.

955
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: I think it's worth talking about. I'm not taking a

956
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: linebacker here if that's my wish.

957
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, then move on. We can find some other

958
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: guys later. I do like some more of the athletic

959
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: linebackers later too.

960
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point where I would ideally

961
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: look at an intier offensive lineman or an intier defensive lineman. Okay,

962
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: a little beef up the middle if we could.

963
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, So interior offensive line Voorhies can't contribute this year,

964
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: so I get it. But also I'm worried Strongberg is

965
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: a guy in the future. Brayden Daniels, there's your guy,

966
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: John Gaines again two and twenty six.

967
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Odd there, mcclennan Curtis, who They've done a lot of

968
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: homework in terms of the Chargers scouts there. I think

969
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers need some more pass rush from the interior.

970
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty interested in taking a shot on Moro Ojomo.

971
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: I think the film can be a little choppy at times,

972
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: but you just mentioned, you know, athletic profile somebody that

973
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: could come in and learn from Morgan Fox, So I

974
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: would say him or one of the one of the

975
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: guards like Gaines or Brandon Daniels.

976
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you are the resident Trenches guy, so once

977
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: again I will defer to you on this one.

978
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh come on, I don't want this to be you decide.

979
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: It depends, because do I want to get a talk.

980
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Let me take out the tackles real quick, like when

981
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: we go for Nick Saldaveri instead. I almost feel better

982
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: about that because I think the Chargers need to tackle

983
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: more than someone like get into your offensive lineman. Not

984
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: that Saldeverari can't do it. He did it last year

985
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: against Virginia. I'd be more comfortable with that than an

986
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: into your offensive lineman. And the d tackles here I'm

987
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of not that there's a great

988
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: I don't know most of these guys past them, so

989
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: maybe you like some of these guys better, but I'd

990
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: kind of rather go with someone like Saldivarry, who we

991
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: talked about before. It checks a lot of boxes for

992
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: the Chargers, especially here at Ron four.

993
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, smaller school tackle for sure, but it has a

994
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: lot of things, like we just highlighted him earlier on

995
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: our show this week. So okay, let's let's do Salivary.

996
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Let's do uh an offensive tackle for the for the

997
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: Chargers to back up Trey Pipkins and Rashawn Slater.

998
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: Cool. Sounds good. I mean, it's it was rough last

999
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: year without some investment, let's say, so, I'd be happy

1000
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: with that.

1001
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all already, then, Tyler, what are you thinking here?

1002
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: We uh again have not taken a tight end yet

1003
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Zach Koontz is right there. I see Dorian Williams, the

1004
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: athletic linebacker from uh I'm totally blanking right now, Tulane

1005
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: tu Lane kJ Henry as well ed Dresher from Clemson.

1006
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: So what are you thinking here?

1007
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: I because this is the last round I'm going to

1008
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: get him. I would consider Zachary koons here. But do

1009
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: you feel like he's enough of an inline blogger to

1010
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: distinguish himself? I guess in the fifth round it doesn't

1011
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: matter as much. Do you feel like he's enough of

1012
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 2: a fit considered?

1013
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: I would say he's he's more of a big slot

1014
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: right now. But he's six seven, he's two hundred and

1015
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: fifty pounds. I think you could get the tight end

1016
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: coaching staff to work with him a little bit more.

1017
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: He certainly has the profile to become a blocker. And

1018
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: you know we've seen Donald Parms make some real strides there.

1019
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: So can you pull up the whole tight end table,

1020
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: let's see who who ultimately is there? In general? So

1021
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: Brenton Strange more of kind of your Stephen Anderson type

1022
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: of tight end if you're looking for that guy. Same

1023
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: with Brandon Willis Cameron Lotto. I think are are similar

1024
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: types there, Payne Durham, who I talked about, so Zach

1025
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Kuons in terms of an athletic profile standpoint, I think

1026
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: with the tight end position, you generally want to take

1027
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: chances on day three guys who have, you know, high

1028
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: athletic profiles, and Zach Kuons is quite literally the most

1029
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: athletic tight end at the combine history. So I'm cool

1030
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: with taking Koons here.

1031
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: Cool, let's do it.

1032
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: So reuniting Salvavary and Zach Kuonz here in this mock draft.

1033
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh gosh, he's the tight end currently on

1034
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: the roster converted quarterback.

1035
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh Stone Smart, that's right, there you go, there you go.

1036
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: So we're pumping up the old Dominion pipeline.

1037
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know Georgia Lsu Old Dominion.

1038
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Right, all right, So we got sixth round here and

1039
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: seventh round. I would say, maybe let's take a glance

1040
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: at Edge Rusher and see if our guy Nick Hampton

1041
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: is there. All right, So there he is. If you're

1042
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: a fan of Nolan Smith, I think you should be

1043
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: a fan of Nick Campton on day three. So that's

1044
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: a pretty quick one for me. Tyler, I know you

1045
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: like Nick Campton as well.

1046
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine by me. I don't know if he

1047
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: fits their physical prototypes as much, but he's kind of

1048
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: a tweener in terms of ed rusher linebacker type. They

1049
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: had him blitzing from the slot sometimes, so a lot

1050
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: you can do, you know, Robert Beale junior because the

1051
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: Georgia connection. Maybe the Chargers will consider that because that

1052
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: fits more of their prototype. But I think Nick Hampton

1053
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: here in terms of what he can do and just

1054
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: frankly in terms of the upside and film like, he's

1055
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: a third round grade from me and we're talking about

1056
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: round six year. I'm happy with him. I know, simwhere

1057
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: could Beino borc has from Chargers while I was cheering,

1058
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm cool with Nick Campton.

1059
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that one.

1060
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Cool. Go watch the North Carolina game, guys.

1061
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: It was fun, absolutely all right. I think this is

1062
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: obligatory time to talk about a potential QB two of

1063
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: the future. We'll see how that board pans out. Even

1064
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, with with Hampton, though, I feel good about

1065
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: potentially not taking a linebacker here because he can, like

1066
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: you said, he can kind of do both of those things.

1067
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: We have not taken a running back yet either, so

1068
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: I definitely want to glance with h we took Bejon.

1069
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well, he's not just a running back, that's

1070
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: why not just a running back?

1071
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's look at quarterback, and then let's let's

1072
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: take a glance at adding a potential return receiver there instead.

1073
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I have much a single quarterback, nor have I

1074
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: watched college football even live, so I got it.

1075
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Uh we, Well, we know the Chargers have met with

1076
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: Max Duggan at the pro day, according to uh shoot,

1077
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: what was is her name right now? Miss Slater who

1078
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: covers the Cowboys for NFL Network, Stetson Bennett. I think,

1079
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, probably off the Chargers board. So I

1080
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: think if they do take a quarterback, it would probably

1081
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: be Max dug in here. But we also know the

1082
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: Chargers are trying to replace DeAndre Carter. So let's take

1083
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: a quick glance at a wide receiver.

1084
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so wide receiver, I haven't I don't know much

1085
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: about all the returners. Darius Davis obviously somebody we've talked about.

1086
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: If he's here, Malik Knowles, but looks like he's gone,

1087
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: so never mind.

1088
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I think I just saw him.

1089
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Nope, I think he is gone. I think somebody snatched

1090
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: him up. There goes that one. He's gone, all right?

1091
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: Interesting moving up the board here, So Jalen Cropper from

1092
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: Fresno State is interesting to me. I think he would

1093
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: be gone much sooner than this, but that's probably where

1094
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: I would go. Here.

1095
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: Is he the one who played with Kellen Moore's brother.

1096
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Yes, him, and Niko Ramichio is also on the board.

1097
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Played with Kellen Moore's younger brother at Fresno State. So

1098
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Cropper is definitely more of a refined receiver. He

1099
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: could be somebody who goes much earlier than this because

1100
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: his ability as an explosive receiver, mostly from the slot

1101
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: at Fresno State. Rimikio is like straight up like special

1102
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: Teams only, so Cropper gives you a little bit of both. Here,

1103
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: Darius Davis, if he's on the board, I can remember

1104
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: if he was there or not, But same kind of thing.

1105
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I think it gives you a little bit of both.

1106
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: So Landers from Arkansas definitely fits the physical profile. He's

1107
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: like six ' four, runs four to two nine or

1108
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: whatever something crazy. So I'll let you pick this one.

1109
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Tyler yeah, Landers. If we didn't go for a bigger

1110
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: receiver early on and I wanted to find someone with Morrisize,

1111
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: that'd be Landers. Not the thickest looking guy, but he's

1112
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: still two hundred pounds. He just happened to be six

1113
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: four and a half or whatever. He is an outstanding blocker,

1114
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: one of my favorite blockers in the entire draft. So

1115
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: if Ryan Fickham was looking for someone who has some

1116
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: returner potential but can also block as well on special teams,

1117
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: that'd be great. You know, because the kickoff returned, the

1118
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: blocking maybe it wasn't the greatest, like the overall numbers

1119
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: for the kickoff returns because of Carter, because of blocking whatever,

1120
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: weren't so great last year. So I could see them

1121
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: upgrading there. It was Joshua Kelly and Xander Horvath blocking,

1122
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: but then Kelly sort of got hurt and I think

1123
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: or took on a bigger role as well. Horvath got

1124
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: hurt as well, so at some point it was Michael

1125
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: Bandy out there, so they definitely could trust a receiver

1126
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 2: out there again with someone like Matt Landers, although he's

1127
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: very different receiver than Michael Bandy, but because of the

1128
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: connection to Kellen Moore or his brother, I should say,

1129
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: because of what you said about Cropper, I'm happy to

1130
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: go with him.

1131
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, let's do that. I feel really good about

1132
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: this draft, although maybe some players who might not be

1133
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: at this specific spot. So just to recap here quickly,

1134
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: I know we're running a little bit short on time.

1135
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: We've got B Jhon Robinson in the first round, Jonathan Miinga,

1136
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: the receiver from Ole Miss at fifty four, Tyreek Stevenson

1137
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: in the corner from Miami at eighty five, Nick's out

1138
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: of the very offensive tackle from Old Dominion at one

1139
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: twenty five, reuniting him with his former teammate Zach Koontz

1140
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: the tight end at one fifty six, Nick Hampton, pass

1141
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: rusher slash linebacker from Appalachian State. I know, Daniel Jeremy

1142
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: I am probably happy about that one. And then Jalen Cropper,

1143
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Fresent State at two thirty nine. So, Tyler,

1144
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this draft? Great?

1145
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for everyone to agree with us one

1146
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: hundred percent. The good news is we took B. John Robinson,

1147
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: So I think we're okay. Like our floors a beam

1148
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: plus here, I think, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, you really like

1149
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: this group overall. I do like the idea that also

1150
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: that we're just pursuing. I don't know about Cropper specifically,

1151
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: but most of these guys have very solid, if not

1152
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: elite RIS scores, which is really good too. I think

1153
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: finding some of these guys who are also great athletes, like, oh,

1154
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, being a good athlete in the NFL, good idea, Tyler.

1155
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: But I do think that that was nice to consider, Like,

1156
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: these are also good players, good prospects at their positions,

1157
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: but they're also high end athletes to guys who clock in.

1158
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean, geez, Nick Koon or Zach Kuon excuse me,

1159
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: you know, ten ras that sort of thing. So yeah,

1160
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it a lot. And we've

1161
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: come a long way from kind of just guessing on

1162
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: three players from our first mock. So yeah, I like

1163
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: this one.

1164
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely put it on a lot of work to

1165
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: make this happen. So I feel good about this. I'm

1166
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: excited to see none of these picks ultimately come to

1167
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: fruition outside of maybe Jonathan Mingo. Mingo Definitely, I feel

1168
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: more confident about happening than the other selections on here.

1169
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: So Yeah, that's that's our first episode on the Chargers channel,

1170
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: So hopefully you guys enjoyed that. Again, make sure and

1171
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel here, and make sure to subscribe

1172
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: to our channel on the Guiltiest Charge Podcast where you

1173
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: can find that anywhere you find your podcast. So Tyler,

1174
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: appreciate your time tonight. Again, cannot thank the Chargers enough

1175
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: for reaching out to us and making this partnership happen.

1176
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: We are so excited to be on your feeds as

1177
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: the listeners, as the viewers on Tuesdays from now on.

1178
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great partnership with us and them,

1179
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to be able to be a part

1180
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: of the family. So cannot thank them again enough. And

1181
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: we will see you guys next week for our draft

1182
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: recap where we will ultimately look at some grades for

1183
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: the how the Chargers draft to panned out. So we'll

1184
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: see you then. Let's going to do it.