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Speaker 2: There a commentator, international social media sensation.

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Speaker 4: That's some very good news last night. The Huties have

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Speaker 4: just don't want to fight, and we will honor that,

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Speaker 4: and we will we will stop the bombings.

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Speaker 5: Breaking news this morning, India has fired missiles at Pakistan

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Speaker 5: and retaliation for last month's massacre of Indian tourists. India

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Speaker 5: says today's strikes targeted sites were terrorist attacks against India

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Speaker 5: were planned. Pakistan called the strikes an act of war.

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Speaker 5: More than two dozen people, including kids, were killed. Pakistan

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Speaker 5: Prime minister has also authorized the country's military to take

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Speaker 3: That Canadas should become state.

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Speaker 4: No, no, well, I still believe that, but you know

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Speaker 4: it takes two to ten goo right, But no, I do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I believe there would be a massive tax

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Speaker 6: As you know from real estate, there are some places

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Speaker 7: Never say never, never said every Supreme Court is allowing

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Speaker 7: lifting a lower court injunction blocking the policy.

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Speaker 8: While litigation continues.

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Speaker 9: Cardinals from seventy countries will begin the secret at voting

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Speaker 9: ritual to elect a new Pope. The next spiritual leader

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Speaker 9: for the Catholic Church needs a two thirds majority. Cardinals

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Speaker 9: in the Papal Conclave gathered for a mass in Rome

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Speaker 9: this morning ahead of the first vote to elect the

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Speaker 1: All right, this is Jack Pasobic. We are here live

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Speaker 1: in the Eternal City. We've got Ben Harnwell here with

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Speaker 1: us as well. Today is May seventh, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Anno domini. And from where we're sitting now, now, Ben,

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Speaker 1: you're you're here in Rome on a regular basis. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm just a visitor. But from where we're sitting, we

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Speaker 10: I think boodly out of your left ere.

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Speaker 1: So right right right about here above me and folks,

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Speaker 1: I don't for those, for those and if we could

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Speaker 8: So they have been in there in lockdoors.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned yesterday a Faraday cage has been constructed containing

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Speaker 1: and for the ability to see do we have a pope?

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Speaker 1: And this is something that's really just an absolute key

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Speaker 11: I mean it's important because even a bad pope impacts

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Speaker 11: figure undermining the cohesiveness and the coherence of Catholic witness,

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Speaker 11: especially on the pro life issues. And I often point

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Speaker 1: Well, and what's been so amazing, and we'll get into

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Speaker 8: However, the church that they're returning to.

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Speaker 10: I think it's a rejection of the whole boom of philosophy.

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Speaker 10: You're seeing it in politics as well.

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Speaker 8: I think right from.

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Speaker 10: Look how many look, how many people sort of younger

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Speaker 1: If you had this conversation with someone yesterday, soone a

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Speaker 8: And they said, what's interesting, And I'd love to get

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Speaker 1: They've never lived in a world where institutions worked, and

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Speaker 1: so they are now saying we've got to go further

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Speaker 8: To find some clarity. Live here in the Eternal City.

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Speaker 1: We are in the Vatican, Saint Peter's Square, the dome

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Speaker 1: I'll say We're right back. Jack PROSOBC live in Rome,

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 6: Terrence Bates. Still no wide or black smoke billowing over

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Speaker 6: Saint Peter's Square in the Vatican right now. The papal

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Speaker 6: with one hundred and thirty three cardinal electors from seventy

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Speaker 6: two two thousand year history. About that Before going into

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Speaker 6: private and secretive deliberations, the cardinals celebrated Mass this morning

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Speaker 6: excuse me now, all eyes in the eyes of the

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Speaker 6: world are watching the chimney over the Sistine Chapel for smoke.

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Speaker 6: Black smoke means a vote was failed or has failed

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Speaker 6: to determine a new pope. White smoke indicates the Catholic

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Speaker 6: FBI's Operation Restored Justice, the nationwide sting that at two

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Speaker 3: You know that you're talking about influencers.

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Speaker 8: These are influencers and their friends of mine. Jack where

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Speaker 8: Jack coach? All right, Jack Pisoba. Here we are.

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Speaker 1: We are back live in the Eternal City, Rome, sitting

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Speaker 1: to determine whether or not a pope has been chosen.

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Speaker 1: We're here outside of Saint Peter's looking for either black

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Speaker 11: And then that's something I would actually fear quite a

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Speaker 6: Ast Terrence Bates here with your real America's Voice News Break.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for being here with us.

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Speaker 6: The streets and children of America are a little bit

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Speaker 6: safer right now. Thanks to the FBI's Operation Restore Justice.

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Speaker 12: If convicted, we'll face the maximum penalty in prison some life.

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Speaker 8: We will find you, we will arrest.

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Speaker 12: You, and we will charge you. If you are online

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Speaker 6: Over that mass, encouraging his colleagues to find a pope

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Speaker 6: That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Spates.

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Speaker 13: We appreciate you being here with us.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack?

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Speaker 4: Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 8: I want to see you.

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Speaker 10: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do?

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Speaker 13: You know we have an incredible think We're always talking about.

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Speaker 14: The fake news and the band.

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Speaker 4: But we have guys, and these are the guys who

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Speaker 1: Put all right, Jack Pisobacuri are back live Roe Medaly

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Speaker 1: at the site of the Papal conclave. This is a

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Speaker 8: Yet, and we're.

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Speaker 1: Double checking this, but I've got just behind me is

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Speaker 8: Was originally thought.

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Speaker 1: We were expecting to see smoke as of now.

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Speaker 8: Already.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring in my favorite anti communist but

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Speaker 8: Avida. How are you good?

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, Jack, Avida could be here.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could too.

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Speaker 2: I thought your call to faithful Catholics to be praying

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Speaker 3: Was so important. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't given permission. Maybe next time the Bongino Army

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Speaker 8: Maybe next time.

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Speaker 10: It's so good, we knew it.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of good Catholics in the Bongino Army.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we were talking a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 8: One where uh one where.

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Speaker 1: We could continue this persecution of the traditional Latin Mass,

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Speaker 8: I have to say it. I hate to use the word,

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Speaker 1: It's it is a potential schism within the church itself,

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Speaker 8: He's been there for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: He's been chewing the sort of press tour. He's not

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Speaker 2: Wells such a good question, Jack, because the clear answer

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Speaker 2: When I was growing up in Wisconsin, I went to

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Speaker 3: I was actually confirmed there.

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Speaker 2: It's an Institute of Christ the King Church, and there

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Speaker 2: The pews are filled with very old people, and I

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Speaker 1: The bet if I can, if I could just throw

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Speaker 2: Dying exactly, exactly Jack. And this matters to everyone. This

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Speaker 2: So it matters if we want to have a Christian

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Speaker 2: This is good for everyone, irrespective of whether you're actually

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Jack, And you know the church is under attack

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Speaker 10: It's not.

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Speaker 2: There aren't Christians being beheaded as there are in Congo.

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Speaker 3: But in the United States we have this problem.

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Speaker 2: I mean, under the last administration you had FBI officials

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Speaker 3: So there is a war against the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 2: Waging right now, and unfortunately, lukewarm Catholicism is not going

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Speaker 1: And that's that's precisely right. By the way, folks want

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Speaker 1: posto avida. You know, as we think about this, it's

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Speaker 1: so true the church has been under attack. And I've

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Speaker 1: just got to say it. I didn't hear the biggest

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Speaker 1: responses to attacks on the church from the clergy. I

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Speaker 1: heard it from people like Donald Trump, like senators like

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Speaker 1: Josh Hawley, people out there as conservative.

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Speaker 8: Pundits fight Dan Bongino fighting back.

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Speaker 1: Who went we along with Cash Bettel to go and

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Speaker 1: shore up the FBI that was conducting some of these attacks.

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Speaker 1: But it almost feels like the American clergy. And I

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Speaker 1: know when I talked to Charlie Kirk and he says

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Speaker 1: he sees the same thing in some of the evangelical

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Speaker 1: world that you just have these priests and pastors who

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Speaker 1: kind of want to go along, to get along, go

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Speaker 1: with the flow, and meet the world where it is,

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Speaker 1: rather than being that unchanging rock, that unchanging beacon of

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Speaker 1: truth in a world gone mad.

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Speaker 8: That's what the church is called to be, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And Jack I actually wrote multiple articles in the wake

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Speaker 2: of these reports of the FBI was surveilling and infiltrating

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Speaker 2: traditional Catholic communities, asking the US Catholic Conference.

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Speaker 3: Of Bishops, will you come out and defend.

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Speaker 2: The faithful who are being target by this administration, they

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Speaker 2: did not respond to me. There were a couple individual

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Speaker 2: bishops who had comments on what happened, but the US

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Speaker 2: CAT the Conference.

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Speaker 3: Of Bishops was silent.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, where I lived in Chicago, cardinals Suefish

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Speaker 2: shut down Latin Mass.

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Speaker 3: They shut down the church that I was attending.

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Speaker 2: So in my view what the church was doing in

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Speaker 2: the last few years is not only did they not

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Speaker 2: defend the faithful, they actually piled on by trying to

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Speaker 2: restrict traditional liturgy. And it just goes to show there

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Speaker 2: is a corruption, there is a rot in the church.

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Speaker 2: There needs to be a rebirth.

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Speaker 3: There needs to be a revival of the church. We're conservatives.

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Speaker 2: You don't believe in tearing things down and destroying them

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Speaker 2: like the left does. There needs to be a revival

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Speaker 2: that is not abandoning the church in this time of need,

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Speaker 2: but to really pray for it, to ask for true guidance,

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Speaker 2: which we have not had in a very long time.

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Speaker 8: Well, and that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: You know, people say, when you hear people say why

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Speaker 1: they left the church, one of the first things they'll

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Speaker 1: say is because of the clergy and the corruption scandal

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Speaker 1: from the late nineties early two thousands. So many people

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Speaker 1: will say that was the problem, and not just that

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Speaker 1: it happened, but the fact that so much of the

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Speaker 1: American bishops were covering it up.

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Speaker 8: They're absolutely covering it up.

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Speaker 1: We as Catholics have to say, we demand more, we

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Speaker 1: demand better. We are going to clean up our own

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Speaker 1: house before anyone else even has a chance to. So

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Speaker 1: that's something as well that, by the way, I would

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Speaker 1: love to see out of this conclave right now, and

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Speaker 1: I've even heard people say that I would hope.

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Speaker 8: I'm praying for this. Of course, we.

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Speaker 1: Pray that the Holy Spirit is in that room right

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Speaker 1: now working on the heart of every single member of

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Speaker 1: the conclave. But in addition, what I hope is that

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Speaker 1: someone in that conclave, one of the cardinals will get

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Speaker 1: up and say, if there was any cardinal here that

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Speaker 1: was associated with one of these scandals, they should recuse themselves,

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Speaker 1: They should recuse themselves from the vote, and they should

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Speaker 1: in fact step out of this and that would include

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I hate to say this, but it would

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Speaker 1: include a lot of high level cardinals. Last minute in

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Speaker 1: the segment at BA Duffy, well, I'll just.

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Speaker 2: Say, if you go to Life site News, great organization,

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Speaker 2: they're actually keeping track of some of these individuals who

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Speaker 2: are high rating cardinals, who are going to be voting,

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Speaker 2: and who have connections to Cardinal Mcarick, one of the

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Speaker 2: worst child sex abusers in the Catholic Church's history. So

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Speaker 2: these people definitely should recuse themselves.

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Speaker 3: They can't be guided by the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they should take a step back focus on

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Speaker 2: their own spiritual health at this time.

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Speaker 3: So there are a lot of people who should not

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Speaker 3: be voting.

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Speaker 2: What's most important right now is that everybody, whether you're

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Speaker 2: a Catholic or not.

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Speaker 3: Pray for this conclave. It matters to the Catholic Church,

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Speaker 3: it matters to the world.

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Speaker 1: That absolutely matters to the world of you. Let's hold

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Speaker 1: you over one more.

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Speaker 8: Segment because there's a lot to talk about here, and.

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Speaker 1: Of course we're waiting for that smoke over my right shoulder.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit darker, but we've got a shot

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Speaker 1: where it's lighter. I mean these guys that don't they

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Speaker 1: understand that we're alive right now. They should be a

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Speaker 1: little more appreciative. I flew all the way here for

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Speaker 1: human events daily and they can't even get one measly

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Speaker 1: puff of smoke while we're on air.

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Speaker 8: My gosh, my gosh, what are we going to do? Folks?

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Speaker 8: Quick break right back, jack pisobec Lie from Rome. Jackie

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Speaker 8: is a great guy. Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 4: Go get it.

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Speaker 7: From and we're going to turn around.

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Speaker 15: Preparations are underway to elect Pope Francis's successor. Cardinals arrived

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Speaker 15: at the Vatican this morning ahead of next week's conclave.

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Speaker 15: The College of Cardinals set Wednesday May seventh as the

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Speaker 15: start date to elect.

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Speaker 8: The next pope.

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Speaker 15: Today, the Vatican release video of workers installing the stove

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Speaker 15: at the Sistine Chapel where the ballots will be burned

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Speaker 15: during the conclave.

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Speaker 14: There as an old phrase in Rome warning against papal ambitions.

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Speaker 14: He who enters a conclave as a pope leaves it

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Speaker 14: as a cardinal. Of course, we won't know until that

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Speaker 14: white smoke comes up behind me above the Sistine Chapel.

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Speaker 14: There's perhaps no clearer sign of an ensuing conclave, Vatican

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Speaker 14: firefighters installing the chimney where when the pope has been named,

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Speaker 14: white smoke will billow. As for who the next one

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Speaker 14: will be, the Church leaves it to one hundred and

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Speaker 14: thirty three cardinal electors and the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 1: When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human

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Speaker 1: events with Jack Bosopic.

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Speaker 8: All right, Jack Pacovic here back.

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Speaker 1: We are live in Rome, Italy, just steps away from

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Speaker 1: Saint Peter's Basilica itself the Vatican. Of course, we are

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Speaker 1: waiting for a billow of smoke. And earlier when the

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Speaker 1: show started it was a little bit lighter, but the

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Speaker 1: sun is now down, and so if you do get

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Speaker 1: that black smoke, I'm sorry, folks won't be able to

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Speaker 1: see it. And for those of you listening on the

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Speaker 1: Sale and Radio network on the podcast, you.

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Speaker 8: Wouldn't be able to see it anyway, But I tell

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Speaker 8: you all about it, and you've probably seen smoke before.

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Speaker 8: We're on with IVIDA.

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Speaker 1: Duffy of The Bungina Report early edition Avida.

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Speaker 8: Let's step back a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit here and talk about this just from a more

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Speaker 1: meta perspective as we end out the show, Religion specifically

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Speaker 1: Christianity is always targeted by the forces of revolution, by

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Speaker 1: the forces of the left. Why is it that religion

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Speaker 1: is something that they always target first, Just like in

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Speaker 1: the United States in the nineteen sixties, it was God

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Speaker 1: in the public square and God in schools that was

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Speaker 1: the very first target.

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Speaker 8: Why is it always Christianity?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, Jack, I mean authoritarian regimes everywhere they thrive

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Speaker 2: off of the authority that they have. They thrive off

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Speaker 2: of fear of people viewing them as the absolute And

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Speaker 2: when you have tons and tons of people in your

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Speaker 2: country viewing God in Heaven as their ultimate authority, suddenly

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Speaker 2: those people become a lot less, a lot, a lot

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Speaker 2: more difficult to control. This is why communist regimes everywhere

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Speaker 2: heye Christianity, this is why they purposely try to subvert

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Speaker 2: the Church everywhere they go.

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Speaker 3: This is just what happens. So if I could just say, Jack,

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people on TikTok and on

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Speaker 2: Instagram who were Catholics, former Catholics, who are now weighing

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Speaker 2: in on the conclave, and they are you have all

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Speaker 2: these opinions about the Catholic Church and why it should

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Speaker 2: be woke.

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Speaker 3: I just have to say the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 2: Needs really strong, really traditional leadership, and everybody weighing in,

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of them do not care about Catholicism.

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Speaker 3: They said nothing.

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Speaker 2: About the Sisters of Perpetual.

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Speaker 3: Indulgence back during the Biden admin.

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Speaker 2: They said nothing about the targeting of traditional Catholics under

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Speaker 2: the Biden admin. I really don't want to hear it

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Speaker 2: from a lot of these people. The church is under

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Speaker 2: attack and we need strong leadership.

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Speaker 8: And it's really as simple as that. People are done

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Speaker 8: with the weakness.

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Speaker 1: They are done with the cs Lewis would call it

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Speaker 1: the men without chests.

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Speaker 8: You want someone who has. But and this is also.

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Speaker 1: Something by the way that you know, it gets into

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Speaker 1: a different discussion, but it is. There's a difference between

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Speaker 1: physical strength and moral strength. And physical strength, you can

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Speaker 1: go to the gym, you can work out, you can do.

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Speaker 8: Your reps, you can do all that.

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Speaker 1: Lots of great people can go out and do and

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Speaker 1: be an athlete. But then many times we see this

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Speaker 1: with some athletes and many others.

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Speaker 8: They lack moral strength and moral character.

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Speaker 1: And Navida, isn't that really what we're lacking so much

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Speaker 1: in society today?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, what does society geared toward today. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: it's all about pleasure. It's all about what makes me

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Speaker 2: feel good in every circumstance. And the Catholic Church actually says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you actually need to suffer a little

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Speaker 2: bit in life.

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Speaker 3: You need to go through.

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Speaker 2: Some hardships, You need to actually make difficult decisions that

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Speaker 2: are the right decisions. If you want to truly be happy,

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Speaker 2: you need to turn to Christ if you want to

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Speaker 2: be happy, which is a really hard thing to do,

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Speaker 2: especially in the world that we live in.

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Speaker 3: It's actually a.

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Speaker 2: Radical departure from what the modern world is presenting to people,

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Speaker 2: and it's a threat to the cultural norms of our time.

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Speaker 2: It's a threat to authoritarian government. It's a threat to

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Speaker 2: a lot of things and a lot of people. And

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Speaker 2: that's why this conclave is so important, and it's why

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Speaker 2: so many people who you think shouldn't be caring about

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Speaker 2: Catholic Church at all are weighing in because this is

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Speaker 2: such amentious occasion.

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Speaker 1: And as it comes down to, this is going to

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Speaker 1: affect not just the one point five billion Catholics, but

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Speaker 1: a voice for so many out there when it comes

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Speaker 1: by the way, we have so many wars that are

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Speaker 1: going on right now that we're not happening when the

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Speaker 1: last pope actually didn't die but stepped aside, which is

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Speaker 1: a whole other conversation we could have, I'm sure. But

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Speaker 1: we see the war in Israel and Gaza, we see

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Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. We see India and Pakistan, which

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Speaker 1: it popped off, seems to have simmered down, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we see if that will escalate. We want a pope

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Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, As always, you have my permission.

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