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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive by and Dale Lowie. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson And it is a lovely Thursday

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Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh. Actually, for the Steelers today is Wednesday, right,

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Speaker 2: because well they just had to put out their first

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Speaker 2: practice report because they play Monday night, so everything kind

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Speaker 2: of gets pushed an extra day. Yeah, you get the

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Speaker 2: extra day in there. Wednesday's practice is kind of a

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Speaker 2: bonus deal.

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Speaker 3: I always love the Monday night going into a bye

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Speaker 3: because you get an extra day on the front.

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Speaker 2: Why is that if you care schedule well, with the

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Speaker 2: way that the NFLPA now sets this up, you have

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Speaker 2: to have four off days in a row on right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: So what the Steelers used to do when they had

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Speaker 2: a normal Sunday game on a high was they would

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Speaker 4: Let them go for the weekend, and then let them

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Speaker 4: go for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: And those Tuesday Wednesday practices would be for all the

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Speaker 2: young guys who haven't played a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, like it always it was like

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Speaker 3: our bowl game practices kind.

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Speaker 2: Of what it was right in this situation, because it's

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Speaker 2: a Monday night game, they can't really practice on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen, so they get one practice day.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday's practice was really the bonus day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just like it from a rest perspective for

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Speaker 3: and then you lose one on the back end, but

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Speaker 3: it cares you.

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Speaker 2: Get an extra day is one way or the other

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Speaker 2: right here, you know, six one way, a half dozen

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Speaker 2: the other. So anyways, speaking of today being a Thursday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: on a Thursday, SIS put out their first practice report,

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Speaker 2: as did the Giants. Roman Wilson did not participate in

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Speaker 2: practice today with that hamstring injury, and I get so

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Speaker 2: many questions about Roman Wilson and down that road. Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin has never in his history as head coach played

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Speaker 2: a rookie who missed practice time during the week of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean even deep in the season if

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Speaker 2: Or you got to if you're a young guy, even

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Speaker 2: some second year guys. But if you're a rookie, you've

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Speaker 2: got to get on the on the practice field. You've

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Speaker 2: got to show him, the coaching staff, the quarterback in

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Speaker 2: this situation, because you know he's a wide receiver that

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Speaker 2: you know what you're doing out there, and if you

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Speaker 2: can't do that, you're not going to play.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of fans were really excited about

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Speaker 3: your receiver answer in house and you're not giving him

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Speaker 2: Not giving him a chance. He missed all of training camp, right,

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's not giving him a chance is health. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's and he didn't practice today. They would have loved

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Speaker 3: him to practice today, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Demonte case might be good for him, and buy

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Speaker 2: will be very good for him. Perhaps he's able to

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Speaker 2: come back after the buyeh. Demante kaz was a full

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Speaker 2: participant in practice with that ankle injury. Deshaun Elliott, with

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Speaker 4: Good. I was a little worrisome on game day.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Matakevich. They activated his practice window today. He was

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Speaker 2: a limited participant in practice. Nick Herbig did not practice.

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Speaker 2: Zach Fraser did not practice. It's safe to those two

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Speaker 2: aren't gonna play yet. Uh. Dylan Cook, whose practice window

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Speaker 2: also is open, was a full participant in practice.

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Speaker 4: Good mean seam Key could be active on game day.

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Speaker 3: But he's not gonna go in permanent I are, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Uh. Cordero Patterson with the ankle injury, was a limited

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Speaker 4: So no huge news, you know, I mean her Big and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Elliott will see where that goes rest week.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. They practice tomorrow and then they also

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Speaker 4: A real practice, real practice, not a walk through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they get the extra day there for the Giants.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen any of those.

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Speaker 2: They get some concerns. Guys who did not participate in practice.

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Speaker 2: Defensive back Cordell Flat he's got a groin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty much a starter.

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Speaker 2: Punter Jamie Gillen left hamstring.

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Speaker 4: Their special teams isn't very good, not very good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have a punter on their

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Speaker 3: I'll tell us everything we know if if they sign

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Speaker 2: Defensive back Trey Hawkins with an ankle, defensive back adri

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean again, they have an extra day too.

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Speaker 3: I would think use all the caution in the world

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Speaker 4: But some keep an eye on. Yeah. I know there

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Speaker 2: Definitely worth watching. Limited participants. Linebacker Brian Burns with the

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Speaker 2: groin slash achilles, Well, you're growing in your achilles, aren't

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Speaker 4: A little bit. Yeah, he's got great get off too,

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Speaker 4: that's the name of his game.

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Speaker 2: And then wide receiver Bryce Ford Wheaton with an achilles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Burns and Lawrence are the ones to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean then they might be their two best players.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he played last week. Yeah, he's at

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Speaker 2: He's something to keep an eye on there for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: And some things just don't add up to me about

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Speaker 2: their defense. Dexter Lawrence is their nose tackle. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: very good. He's very good, and yet they give up

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Speaker 2: That doesn't add up.

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Speaker 3: It's really one of the worst run defenses in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: lot of it is just so many splash plays. I mean,

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Speaker 3: tremendously poor tackling, you know, it is kind of what

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Speaker 3: of adds up. I mean against Philly in particular, against

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Speaker 2: You know, but you're you're a guy that demands he's

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Speaker 2: I think he's double team that like sixty three percent

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Speaker 4: Those ESPN rates, he's like number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like makes sense. He's a noose tackle. You always

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Speaker 3: Ojelari's a good player, but they're both a little light

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just I mean because typically if you've got

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, So I mean bog up some of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just something that didn't make sense. And then

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Speaker 2: you look at the other side of it, and they

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Speaker 2: allow us seventy two point seven completion percentage in one

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Speaker 2: which is considered anything beyond twenty yards. So they don't

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Speaker 2: play the run real well, right, and they haven't rush

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think if you have dexter lawrence, you

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Speaker 3: should be able to plug the run. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: Well, they do, but they do, right.

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Speaker 3: I think the back seven is very unreliable, and particularly

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Speaker 3: I mean like their best two the best free defensive

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Speaker 3: you know, and they play a ton Nuben and Phillips.

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Speaker 4: I assume they make mistakes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Phillips has been really good.

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Speaker 3: He has been good. Nuban's been fine. Yeah. The corner

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense with

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Speaker 4: And you know you don't.

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Speaker 3: Stealing run between tackles. Well when they throw deep well,

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Speaker 3: So now there's a lot of issues with this team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's seven yards, right, and they're short stuff.

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Speaker 4: And he's good at he is a true slot machine.

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Speaker 3: I mean he is good. I don't know how you

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Speaker 3: He's explosive, comes in out of his brakes well, good

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Speaker 2: It should be like over seventy percent. Those are basically

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't throw, they don't use the tight ends

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Speaker 2: at about not quite half the passes that you've thrown

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Speaker 2: they're all easier, those easier throws. So about half of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think Tracy and certainly Robinson, all that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at it, it's not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Jones having his worst year as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he just is. You know, he's completing

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Speaker 4: Which is too low.

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Speaker 2: There and everybody else. You know, if he's under he's

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Speaker 2: below average in today's NFL. Oh, yeah, he's not throwing

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Speaker 3: No, No, he absolutely is not. He's not making a

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Speaker 3: tight window throws. He doesn't. He rarely looks comfortable to me.

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Speaker 3: He takes a lot of punishment, some of it by design,

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Speaker 3: you know, especially with al Thomas. It hasn't been great

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't. I mean, I forget.

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Speaker 3: It's sacked eight times last week. He can't trust anything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and in last week Neighbors return, he's starting right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's still he said that. Yeah, Neighbors last week had

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Speaker 2: eight targets. He's low since the opener. He had seven

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Speaker 3: I mean, all these stats reflect what you see on

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Speaker 3: gonna have twelve catches for seven.

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Speaker 2: At some point, somebody's gonna have a holding penalty. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jones is gonna overthrow him or something's gonna happens. It's

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Speaker 3: And if neighbors getting a better reporter, then help them,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like, don't let neighbors be explosive.

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Speaker 2: But I don't seeing me of being able to do

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Speaker 3: I can't protect, and the quarterback's not very accurate, and

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Speaker 3: it's a multitude of problem.

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Speaker 2: Like the left tackle is a problem, but you can't

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Speaker 2: or on his own against DJ Watt, that's just asking.

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Speaker 4: For it, right.

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Speaker 3: That's the big issue is when they had Thomas kind

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Speaker 3: of like, no, he's not as good as Trent Williams,

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Speaker 3: but he's Trent Williams and the Pips. It's arms and

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Speaker 3: the Pips, you know what I mean, Like didn't matter

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Speaker 3: had hendrickson every snap. Okay, you win some, you lose some,

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Speaker 3: but we're not helping you. That's why we're paying you

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Speaker 3: the big bucks. Yeah, these other four will get help.

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Speaker 3: We'll try to take away their most dangerous dudes. Which

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Speaker 3: very good either. But now I'm sure their tight ends

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Speaker 4: But still they're gonna play twelve and just.

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Speaker 2: It is not even on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it would just be seven man protections

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand what this team, given the way

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you watch the Hard Knocks, they kind of

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Speaker 2: I'd still rather have Barkley, I get it. But their

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Speaker 2: they're starters, as we've seen, Matt. They could have drafted

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Speaker 2: a couple of starters, yeah, in this particular draft, and

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Speaker 2: they took neighbors, so they're trying to basically replace Saquon

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Speaker 2: Barkley as a big playmaker with neighbors, but you have

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Speaker 2: to be able to block it up.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know.

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Speaker 2: I mean with Saquan, he was very effective last year

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would have invested in him either,

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Speaker 3: just because at his age, you're not winning the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl with or without them. Sure, I mean maybe you

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Speaker 3: could have used the money better than below average left

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Speaker 3: mean that that's that's one of the things that comes

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Speaker 3: back to.

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Speaker 2: The they missed on that one.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think he was a six pick in the draft

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Speaker 3: because that makes you worse at two spots, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, there's no answer.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've already said they're not moving a lumin Or

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So I'm just thinking about their off season.

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Speaker 3: If we would have been GMS of the Giants when

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Speaker 4: But they definitely kicked the.

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Speaker 3: Tires on May and those guys, I mean they were

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Speaker 3: definitely interested.

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Speaker 2: In this particular draft. I would have gone offensive line heavy,

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Speaker 2: like much like the Steelers did. Yeah, three and two

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Speaker 4: Right, well, they probably would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean they signed those two before, but what's.

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Speaker 2: In the draft.

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Speaker 3: And I think I would have taken a Chargers like approach.

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Speaker 3: Worry about weapons later. Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not running, you're not winning the Super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 2: So if that's the case, then maybe you should have

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Speaker 2: But Josh Jacobs or one of those guys. Yeah maybe. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we don't want to pay what Saquon making, like sixteen,

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Speaker 2: probably a little less, but some number one, yeah he's

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Speaker 2: number one. Okay, we don't want to pay that, but

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Speaker 3: Give me somebody that will help the quarterback a little

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Speaker 3: bit too, I mean, something to help him out because

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Speaker 3: Barkley too. Is he's a good receiver, that's the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean they just have a multitude of problems. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And really the thing, I mean, if you're going

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Speaker 2: which they are, it's a bad nest. Why not build

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because unlike the Steelers, the front office is

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Speaker 2: Actually, yesterday that she talked to them to I can't

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Speaker 2: John Mayer, I believe, And he said they're not in

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Speaker 4: In a long time, I feel like they haven't won

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Speaker 2: Well, they made the playoffs two years ago, so they

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Speaker 3: So like, even when opening Day got here and everybody

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Speaker 3: it'll get better. It's average. It's below average. It's below average. Really,

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Speaker 3: I mean barely there a much average there. It wasn't garbage,

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Speaker 3: That's the opposite of the two.

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Speaker 2: Games that that Slayton that I'm sorry that Neighbors missed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Darius Slayton had two good games. Yeah, like in a

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Speaker 3: You could take an alt right, you could take Latham,

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Speaker 3: you could take either one right right, He went before

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Speaker 2: you've seen the Eagles build the offensive line and then

439
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Speaker 2: go get the pieces around the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's I wouldn't mind building from here, you know where

441
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Speaker 3: they're at. They still need a lot because but at

442
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Speaker 3: least they have some pieces the boy and trying to

443
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Speaker 3: get in their head of how to fix the offense

444
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Speaker 3: in one offseason would.

445
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Speaker 4: Have been really tough.

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Speaker 2: I just don't spending had.

447
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Speaker 3: Been probably wrong to get the quarterback because it'd been

448
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Speaker 3: like May and.

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Speaker 2: What's what I'm saying, That's why they should in an

450
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Speaker 2: offensive line rich draft. They should have built that first

451
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Speaker 2: and then gone and where Because there's been receivers in

452
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Speaker 2: every draft. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and Neighbors is good

453
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Speaker 2: especially Yeah, he's a great player. Is he better than

454
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was a couple of years ago?

455
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Speaker 5: Is he? Like?

456
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Speaker 2: We can go down through the last few drafts and

457
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Speaker 2: find plenty of good receivers, even great receivers where you.

458
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Speaker 3: Could argue another mistake is made though, Is they traded

459
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Speaker 3: that early second for Burns. That's a win now move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a team that's not ready to win.

461
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Speaker 3: Now you had Thibodeaux and Ojeli, Yeah, is playing really well.

462
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Speaker 3: Thibodeau's had a good year. If that could have been

463
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Speaker 3: a tackle, I mean that could have been.

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Speaker 2: If hadn't gotten hurt. Now they got three of those guys, right,

465
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Speaker 2: what are you doing with them all? Which is a

466
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Speaker 2: real lovely thing to happen. I mean, their D line

467
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Speaker 2: is the only thing that does well for them at

468
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Speaker 2: the moment. But trading for Burns is that's a good

469
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Speaker 2: team move. That could have been you should do. That

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Speaker 2: would have been another offensive line I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, right, that's your starting right guard or a tackle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was guys of.

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Speaker 2: It, but instead they chose to go to the free

474
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Speaker 2: and you never want to buy an offensive line in

475
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Speaker 2: free agency.

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Speaker 3: Oh I know, that just doesn't work, and they had

477
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Speaker 3: to overspend. I mean it's a good example. Like again,

478
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Speaker 3: Aluminers an ok right tackle, runions and okay.

479
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Speaker 2: Guard, but that's what you're paying for in the open market.

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Speaker 2: But you're paying them like they're above average. Yeah, you know,

481
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Speaker 2: like it's that's just how it goes. And I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of this is hindsight, but I mean, think

483
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Speaker 2: of all those receivers that went in the first round,

484
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Speaker 2: early second you know, Pierce All, Coleman, Leagett, all those guys.

485
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Speaker 2: You can move up three spots and grab one of

486
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Speaker 2: them and had Joe All. Yeah, you know, so they

487
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Speaker 2: need everything, but they're in bad shape.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the to me, the smartest way

490
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Speaker 2: to build this because you weren't you. They couldn't have

491
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Speaker 2: thought they were going to win this year in half.

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Speaker 3: No, I couldn't have I'll be honest. There's there's been

493
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Speaker 3: very few personnel moves they've made in the last three years.

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Speaker 3: I've been put the stamp of approval. Yeah, I mean,

495
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Speaker 3: given Jones the Contracy Act. Remember how they handled the

496
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Speaker 3: whole Barkley Jones thing was kind of goofy. And I

497
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Speaker 3: don't think they've drafted all that well either, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's you can see why they're not

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Speaker 2: winning absolutely. I mean you could go back with any

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Speaker 2: team and look at their drafts and say, well, that's

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Speaker 2: why you're not winning the Raiders. That's why. To me,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give up a second round draft

503
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Speaker 2: pick for a wide receiver right now, especially a thirty

504
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Speaker 2: one or thirty plus year old wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: A third we can talk not doing anything the first.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about your last few second round draft

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Speaker 2: picks Kean U Benton and Joey Porter junior second round

508
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Speaker 2: draft picks. Yeah, Zach Frazer second round draft pick, George

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Speaker 2: Pickens second round draft pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all more valuable than cup. Yeah they are.

512
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Speaker 3: And especially at their age and their cost and all

513
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Speaker 3: that stuff too. Second round picks are gold gold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I mean over the last five or six years. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 2: there were some misses in there, you know, if you

516
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Speaker 2: go back, everybody, well what about Limas Swede. Limas Swede

517
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Speaker 2: was twenty freaking years ago.

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Speaker 3: Come on, people, and you're gonna miss on some here.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, But it's it's also a great spot

520
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 3: to get a guard, a center, a.

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Speaker 4: Tight end and not premium whatever you need.

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Speaker 2: Even cornerbacks you know, fall into that second round and

523
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Speaker 2: are good.

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Speaker 4: The best safety in the draft. I mean things like

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Speaker 4: that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, non premium positions that are not first rounders are

527
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Speaker 3: great players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But uh yeah, So this Giants teams an

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Speaker 2: interesting watch slash dichotomy. Here. Are they dangerous? Absolutely when

530
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Speaker 2: you rush the passer like they rushed the passer, Yes,

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Speaker 2: they can make bad things happen. You could have a

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Speaker 2: strip sack, fumble return for a touchdown and things of

533
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Speaker 2: that nature.

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Speaker 3: That's certainly my biggest fear is that d line takes

535
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Speaker 3: over in this game. Is ten to nine in the

536
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Speaker 3: end and you get a bounce go the wrong way

537
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Speaker 3: right now, right, But but I can't believe that they're

538
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Speaker 3: gonna put a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: They haven't the last two games, ten points in the

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Speaker 2: last two games, and they're playing the team that's giving

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Speaker 2: up the second fewest points in the league.

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Speaker 3: And they're rudderless at the moment too, like getting them

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Speaker 3: after the Thomas injuries.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, they're very vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree, So we'll see how this goes. Monday

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Speaker 2: Night football, the Steelers host the New York Giants. We're

547
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Speaker 2: gonna take a break. When we come back, we're expected

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Speaker 2: to be joined by Steelers rookie guard Mason McCormick. Yeah,

549
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Speaker 2: another guy that they could have had him fourth round.

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Speaker 4: Guy, take him in the third. You'd be thrilled if

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Speaker 4: he had.

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Speaker 2: An Absolutely well, they would have had a higher fourth

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Speaker 2: round pick in the Steelers. They could have waited taking

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Speaker 2: them there, but they did not. They decided to go

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Speaker 2: out and pay one in free agency. McCormick's been really

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Speaker 2: good this year. Yes, we'll talk to him when we return.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI you're listening

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Speaker 2: to the drive you're on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale, he is Dean

563
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. We're still awaiting or trying to get Mason

564
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Speaker 2: McCormick on the phone. But while we do that, Matt,

565
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Speaker 2: let's talk a little offensive line stuff here. And I'm

566
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Speaker 2: looking at the Pro Football Focus offensive line rankings. I'm

567
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Speaker 2: a little surprised by some of these in that.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned last week's opponents where they're at. That's the

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Speaker 3: other one I know. And it was a little too

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Speaker 3: high up the board for my way.

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Speaker 2: Too high. So at thirty two are the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: They're bad?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, we'll get back to that because well, Mason

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Speaker 2: McCormick is on the phone line here on the Justin

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Speaker 2: Miller phone line. Can you hear us, Mason?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I can.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, Hey, you're here with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you calling in, and we're just looking at the

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focused stuff on offensive lines and they put

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Speaker 2: out rankings on offensive line play every week. And one

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Speaker 2: of the things that they said here was that rookie

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Speaker 2: right guard Mason McCormick played in near only perfect game

584
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Speaker 2: in pass protection last week. Was it perfect for you

585
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Speaker 2: or was there still stuff that you want to you

586
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Speaker 2: want to get better at.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily say it was perfect. I feel like

588
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Speaker 5: there's still areas to improve and you know, keep getting

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Speaker 5: better and That's what I'm striving to do every week.

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Speaker 3: What it's been the most difficult adjustment for you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: You've come from a somewhat smaller school, played a lot

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Speaker 3: in the preseason. We're impressive there, and then unfortunately James

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Speaker 3: got hurt and you got thrust in the right guard

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Speaker 3: spot and doing really well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean obviously the speed of the game coming

596
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Speaker 5: from SCS is a little bit different. Ye, confident myself

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Speaker 5: and my abilities, and I feel like I've been growing

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Speaker 5: every week and I'm just going to keep getting better

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Speaker 5: week in and week out.

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Speaker 2: You started fifty seven consecutive games in college. Uh, there

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Speaker 2: had to be at some point some kind of injury

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Speaker 2: or something that was bothering you. But what just start

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Speaker 2: fifty seven consecutive games? I mean that says a lot

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Speaker 2: about your your kind of your intestinal fortitude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I feel like offensive line play. You know,

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Speaker 5: your body's not always going to feel amazing. And we

607
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Speaker 5: got guys counting on you to the left and to

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Speaker 5: the r idea, and just to be able to go

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Speaker 5: out there with them and trust in them and have

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Speaker 5: them be able to trust in me, I think is crucial.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to harp too much on your college career,

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Speaker 3: but I mean, just in today's college landscape, really good

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Speaker 3: prospects like yourself usually end up transferring to Bama or

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Speaker 3: Oregon or anything like that. Did you have those opportunities?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I had. I had some schools reach out to me,

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Speaker 5: and I turned them away pretty quickly. Tcota State did

617
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Speaker 5: so much for me and in developing me and making

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Speaker 5: me who I am. I just kind of thought, who

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Speaker 5: am I? Who am I to leave these guys? You know,

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Speaker 5: they poured so much into me, and I kind of

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Speaker 5: owe it back to them. They helped build me into

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Speaker 5: who I am.

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Speaker 2: And a couple of national championships don't hurt either.

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Speaker 4: That. Yeah, got pretty used.

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Speaker 5: To winning a bet so much fun, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I just I just I wouldn't have traded it for anything,

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Speaker 5: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Mason. You mentioned the fun. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 2: anybody who I saw on the field Sunday night against

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Speaker 2: the Jets who looked like they were having more fun

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Speaker 2: out there than you were. You're wind milling after you

632
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Speaker 2: guys get first downs, You're out there just having fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is still just a kid's game, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: It is at the end of the day. You know,

635
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Speaker 5: football is a game that I've always loved and you know,

636
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Speaker 5: enjoy playing and and so I'm going to celebrate celebrate

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00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 5: small victories. And that's that's kind of the way offensive

638
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Speaker 5: linemen are. You know, we do a lot of this

639
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: behind the scenes work and stuff, and then to be

640
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Speaker 5: able to get a fourth down and one on a

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Speaker 5: four minute drill just kind of close the game out,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: I just got to get one of the one of

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Speaker 2: the guys who score a touchdown to let you spike

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Speaker 2: the ball, like Dan Moore got to spike the ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's an offensive line lineman's dream, right,

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Speaker 2: you want to spike the football.

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Speaker 5: I mean, spike in the football would be fun. But

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Speaker 5: just getting in the end zone is enough for me.

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Speaker 4: Mason. If I'm correct, you also have a center background.

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've worked a lot of center in my career.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I thought so.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of our backup center. If anything were

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Speaker 5: to happen to him, I would have moved over to center.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's as long as you keep you

657
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Speaker 5: stay on top of it. It's kind of like riding

658
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: the bike. You just you just get back into it.

659
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: Did NFL teams kind of cross check you that way

660
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: as a prospect?

661
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

662
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: Absolutely. A lot of people want to be able to

663
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: see me snap the ball and I did that a bunch.

664
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Speaker 2: And yeah, so you were what team captain three times

665
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: in three years in a row at South Dakota State, Yes, sir, yep,

666
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: you were named the most value or co co offensive

667
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: most valuable player at South Dakota State. He won two

668
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: national championships. You want a high school in that state championship?

669
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right, that's the that's the next one you

670
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: got to check off.

671
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually got second in high school.

672
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was first, Okay, but yeah, I.

673
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 5: Mean super Bowl is obviously the goal we're pising towards here,

674
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: and I feel like we got the guys to do.

675
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: It makeson you guys have such a young offensive line room.

676
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: What does Isaac mean as kind of a leader in there?

677
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: He means a ton. No. He's seen so much football,

678
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: and he's got such a high football IQ. And he's

679
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: also a really really good player, and so being able

680
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: to have him and be able to able to bounce

681
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: questions off them is definitely crucial for a lot of us.

682
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: It's been really Uh. You guys have started now five

683
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: different offensive line combinations in your first seven games. You've

684
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: had four guys make their first career start already at

685
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: this season. You're not supposed to be five and two.

686
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Do you ever take a step back at this point

687
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: and go, this isn't supposed to be happening. It's supposed

688
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: to be It's not supposed to be seamless. Does it

689
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: kind of speak to the job that Pat Myer has

690
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: done getting you guys ready to play like this?

691
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: I think it definitely does. He's done a tremendous job.

692
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: I mean I can speak for myself, you know, coming

693
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: from South Akota State, I had I had some things

694
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: to learn, and he taught me exponentially quick. And I'm

695
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 5: going to keep getting better and better and just having

696
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: trust in him. But the tools and things he's given

697
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: me has allowed me to grow into this player I'm becoming,

698
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 5: and he's going to keep putting me in the future.

699
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Mason, how much Dexter Lawrence have you watched this week

700
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: and what kind of challenges does he provide?

701
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've watched. I watch a lot of

702
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: tape every week, but Dexter Lawrence is one hell of

703
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: a player and it's going to be a fun challenge

704
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: and I look.

705
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Speaker 4: Forward to it.

706
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll let you get back to that, Mason. I

707
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: know you got a busy work week here, but we

708
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Speaker 2: appreciate you dropping by and talking to us on the drive.

709
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Speaker 2: Let me just say this, So Beanie Bishop was on

710
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: the show last week and Beanie goes out and gets

711
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: two interceptions. So now that means you might get to

712
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: spike the football on Sunday. I'm just said, I'm just

713
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: throwing that out there.

714
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Speaker 5: I hope that's how it works.

715
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Speaker 4: I'm sure it is.

716
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Speaker 2: Absolutely Our guest has been Mason McCormick as Steelers rookie

717
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: right guard starter at the right guard. We appreciate him

718
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: stopping by. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson.

719
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Speaker 2: This is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

720
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Speaker 4: We'll be back with more right after this. At least.

721
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Speaker 1: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

722
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

723
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

724
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

725
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and we're before. We had our chat

726
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Speaker 2: with the Mason McCormick there.

727
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Speaker 4: That was great. He's good.

728
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: He's a good guy to talk to. Most offensive lineman

729
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: are don't tell you actually are don't tell Wolf and

730
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: Starks I said that, right. You know they have the.

731
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 4: Pulse of the they absolutely do.

732
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: They do the dirty work their team guys, and you

733
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: have to be smart at that position.

734
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do. Yeah. So the Patriots are thirty two,

735
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: they're horrible. The Titans are thirty.

736
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Speaker 3: One, they're really bad too. The right side of the

737
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: line has been a disaster this year. Yeah, at thirty

738
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: or the Saints that are so hurt. Yeah, I mean

739
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: that's where they're at right now, and it wasn't a

740
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: real strength to begin with.

741
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Speaker 2: Twenty nine is Seattle?

742
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Now we're getting in the ones you can live

743
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: with a little bit, you know, their interior is pretty rough.

744
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Cleveland. That's actually up three spots. They

745
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: have someone come back that has Willis and Conklin at

746
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: the tackle positions, Buttonio and Michael Dunn at the guards,

747
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: and Ethan Postic at center. So they're starting to.

748
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: Get there's two holes, yeah right now.

749
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: And Teller just started practicing, so they maybe getting closer.

750
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Speaker 3: I actually think that team's trending in the right direction

751
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: a little bit.

752
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: The problem they were bottom, they were bottom by yeah.

753
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, this is down four spots is Cincinnati.

754
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: They're starting Cody Ford and Amarius Mims at the tackle positions.

755
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

756
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: So they're assuming the left tackles out now too, huh yeah, okay, kind.

757
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Of Howards really a guard too.

758
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: I think he practiced yesterday Orlando, or at least they

759
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: expected to practice yesterday. We'll get more into that maybe

760
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: in the fantasy football focus. But even so, that line's

761
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: not been good.

762
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: No, they've invested a lot in it too, like Kappa,

763
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: and those guys aren't great, but they've went out and

764
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: got them. At twenty six is the Rams, hmm, I know,

765
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of injury where they say they're.

766
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: Five are real quick?

767
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: Alaric Jackson, Justin Diditch Bolimmer, Kevin Dottson, Rob Havenstein.

768
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Speaker 3: Okay, there's three starters missing then, I mean the right

769
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: side of the line is the only ones that should be

770
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Speaker 3: out there.

771
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Speaker 2: The team the Steelers play this week. The Giants are

772
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Speaker 2: at twenty five. That's down seven spots. Down seven spots,

773
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: mind you, they were at eight tout eight sacks. I

774
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: mean they should be at least that low.

775
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they say about them, I think great, No,

776
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: well I'm sure not right? Yeah nothing. Did they call

777
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: the name? I can't pronounce that. There's the left hand

778
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 3: do yeah? Yeah, yeah.

779
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: He played three snaps I think before getting thrust into action.

780
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: At twenty four are the Steelers. So the Giants went

781
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: into last week ranked considerably ahead of the Steelers, not

782
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: just on a couple of spots. Right, they moved down

783
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: seven spots. That's with Thomas that well they knew Thomas

784
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: wasn't going to play last week? Yeah right, do whatever

785
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: started the game? Right?

786
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: No, I had much of other Steelers than all those. Twenty

787
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: three is Jacksonville. That's up four spots. It's getting a

788
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: little better, but not great great. Twenty two is Dallas.

789
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: There's some lines that are up like, don't make sense.

790
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: Twenty one is the Raiders.

791
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to impress the Raiders line either.

792
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Twenty is the Chargers. They should be higher. They should

793
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: definitely be higher. They're healthy now too. Nineteen the Falcons.

794
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: They should be higher. Run blocking is really good. Yeah,

795
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Chicago getting better. Seventeen is Arizona. That hasn't

796
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 2: been their problem. I wouldn't say it's above average though.

797
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen is Minnesota. Minnesota really doesn't.

798
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: Their tackles are great.

799
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Great, and the interior guys aren't bad. Right right, you're

800
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: saying they should be higher, they should be higher. Yeah,

801
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: I think they're more like a top ten. Fifteen is

802
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: the Texans.

803
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh, they should be wasting.

804
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: They should be lower. Like their name value is great,

805
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: but collectively they're playing.

806
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: They've been stinking. Tul has been a I think he's hurt, yeah,

807
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: because he must be holding penalties and he's he's the

808
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: most penalized player in the league.

809
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

810
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: I would say they're like the most penalized team. I

811
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: think they're the most penalized line. They only can run

812
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: the ball of mixings around. The protection hasn't been great,

813
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: and they're they're good.

814
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: They have some good players.

815
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Speaker 2: The best they put. They put best player down for you, seam,

816
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: they put Tunsel down. Tunsall has always been among the

817
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: most best pass blocking offensive tackles in the NFL. His

818
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: two point two pressure rate this season is a career best.

819
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: But he's got like ten.

820
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: Holding down left and right. I bet he would tell

821
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: you he's not having a good year. Yeah, I mean

822
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: he's I'm sure he's fighting through something. And I think

823
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: they're ready to replace at guard, Kendrick Green taking over

824
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: for the other they have.

825
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: First round they have Kenyon Green in there.

826
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Speaker 3: No, I mean Kendrick taking over Kenyon, Yeah, the first

827
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: round pick because he's been bad too.

828
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Speaker 2: Fourteen is San Francisco.

829
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Speaker 4: Man that they're right in the middle.

830
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Speaker 2: Thirteen is Miami.

831
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd be waiting on, I'd be wading come on.

832
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: I think Steelers are Miami.

833
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.

834
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: Twelve is the Eagles, m hm, not where they used

835
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: to be. A Malata is out to so you're done.

836
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: Have Kelsey doing Milata.

837
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: Eleven is the Commanders.

838
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Oh, they're playing way better than that they don't have

839
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: name value, but like Cosmey is one of the best

840
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: guards noone's ever heard of. They're nastiest, could be too.

841
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: There'll be a fun team to preview because Washington plays

842
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: hard in the trenches.

843
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: Ten is the Broncos.

844
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. They're heavy mashers, you know, run guys.

845
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: That's the thing though, what I'm seeing here with the

846
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: with these rankings, or that the teams that do a

847
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: lot of sideways passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, their their offensive

848
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: lines are pushed way up on this because they don't

849
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: give up any pressures.

850
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: That's I often refer to Brandon Thorne when we talk

851
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: out line stuff, and he'll always weigh protection more than run,

852
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: but particularly longer developing pass play. Yeah, you know, like

853
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: if all you do is quick game, I'll.

854
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: Be in no line.

855
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: They could put us right a big deal at nine.

856
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: The Ravens, it's getting better and better. Stanley's back. Stanley's back, Yeah,

857
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: McCarry's helped. He's bad and Rose and Garten still yeah,

858
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: probably the right side of that line is still not good.

859
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: Agreed, that's that's too high, but it's better than it

860
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: was at the beginning of the season. Here's where I

861
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: really Eight is the g Yes, oh we just saw that.

862
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: Like they have names, but there are good picks and

863
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: they allow a lot of pressure and the ball comes

864
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: out super quick.

865
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Speaker 4: They didn't run the ball well. They didn't run the

866
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: ball at all all year. Really.

867
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Breece Hall is still hours in like three point

868
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: seven yards of carry.

869
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: It's not his fault.

870
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: You see. You saw Breeze Hall, right.

871
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: Right, right. No, I have a real problem with that one.

872
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

873
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: Seven is the Bills. Okay, they play a lot of

874
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: six zero line. They've been healthy from what I remember.

875
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: It might be a little high, but it's I mean

876
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: they're top ten probably. Six is Carolina. That's actually fine.

877
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's they run the ball well for a team.

878
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: That yeah, very good. No, I mean that's not their problem.

879
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: Five is the Packers. Yeah, a lot better in protection

880
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: than the run game. And they're the perfect example of

881
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: the whole being better than each part.

882
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like they don't have a pro bowler.

883
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: Four is the Colts.

884
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: I would probably have them in the top two.

885
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Three is Kansas City. Kansas City cannot be in the

886
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: top three. Line starting Wanya Morris and Jawan Taylor tackle

887
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

888
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: They just can't be right.

889
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: They're the anti viabilities, They're the anti vikings.

890
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: You can't have your your offensive tackles cannot be complete liabilities.

891
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: It's a big reason Mahomes isn't having the Mahomes years.

892
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: He's getting the ball's coming out the edge for direction

893
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: at all, and the interior is.

894
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: Great, but the edges are bad.

895
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: Two is Tampa Bay.

896
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: They've really gone a long way, Graham Barton, and.

897
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: They ran the ball well last.

898
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: Week at Baltimore and Worf's stud Yeah, they're a top

899
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: five for sure.

900
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: And then one is Detroit.

901
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we agree on that. I have the

902
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: Colts probably too.

903
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: There's no way in God's green earth that the Jets

904
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: offensive line is number eight.

905
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: That's one of the worst. I would have it like

906
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: twenty two. Yeah.

907
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean like they I liked all their players at

908
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: one point of their process, but you watch them. We

909
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: studied them, we saw the game live. They allow a

910
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 3: lot of pressure and they don't run block well.

911
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: And they don't hold the ball like they're getting the

912
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: ball out quickly. And Rogers. The Steelers have more hits

913
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: on Rogers last week than the Jets did against the Steelers.

914
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Rogers. I mean again, sacks or quarterback things too.

915
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: He knows where it's coming from, not like this is

916
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: new to him. Rookie running around like a chicken on

917
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: his head cut off. Now you know the line's not

918
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: doing him any favors.

919
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and once again I'm questioning the Pro Football Focus

920
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: grading system. Go to the surprise, their.

921
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: O line and coverage are the ones I always great,

922
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: which it brings me.

923
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: To They put out a Pro Football Focus tweeted this

924
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: out today, their top three cornerbacks in the league in

925
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: terms of not allowing separation. Joey Porter was number two. Okay,

926
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: but when you look on their grading system, Joey Porter's

927
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: the eighty ninth graded cornerback in the league and the

928
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: third of the three Steelers cornerbacks who play. You know,

929
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: he's number three of them. He's number three of between

930
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: Beanie Bishop and Dante Jackson. He is last among those guys.

931
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: But he doesn't create any doesn't allow.

932
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Does allow any separation. Nobody throws at him.

933
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he regards about the opponent's best receiver.

934
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Everybody other than that he sucks.

935
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: There's eight other terrible yeah, terrible. Yeah.

936
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Coverage stuff and O line stuff to me, I have

937
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: a heart heart. Procious, yeah, atrocious. Anyways, let's get to

938
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Speaker 2: a break. That's going to do it for our number

939
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Speaker 2: one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back with our number two

941
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Speaker 2: right after this