WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour | Can Jaguars Leverage Competition to Create Accountability?

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, October seventeenth. This is Jackwar's happy hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And now a guy who loves the band Oasis so

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<v Speaker 1>much he owns the Champagne Chevy Nova. Brian Sexton Oasis.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of them. I heard they were on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live. That's about all I know about him, though.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did have a Chevy Nova and it was

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<v Speaker 1>not age for a year. It was a nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that was the great year for the nova.

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<v Speaker 1>Chevy Nova.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't lime green, and it wasn't a rich green.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sort of a faded green.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of an avocadosh green.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It didn't have the big engine.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't would would you have the straight six center or something?

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<v Speaker 1>My dad didn't want me to have something that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get him in a lot of trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I get you, but I liked it. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of the hot rods.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Well listen, if I'd had my way,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been yeah. But instead I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>slow pedaled it and I got here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this team is slow pedaling right now. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>slow pedaling.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good. Yeah, it's good to be seeing. We're

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<v Speaker 2>at the grove here.

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<v Speaker 1>We are at the grove.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this considered London or is this considered not London?

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<v Speaker 1>If this is considered Watford. Okay, so we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>We're about an hour and ten minute Uber ride to

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<v Speaker 1>your hotel down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm staying in downtown London.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be staying at the door Chester, I imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I no, no, I would be at the Hilton Pool,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which if you look at like Google, which

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<v Speaker 2>everybody does nowadays, and you look at the ratings, the

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<v Speaker 2>ratings of the hotel that I'm at is like three stars. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The hotel that Biseli's ats like five stars. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just kidding either the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel and this place is a five star place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on three hundred acres. It's beautiful of an old

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<v Speaker 1>English country estate. And I am told and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely true. There is a black oak tree

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<v Speaker 1>on the grounds that was presented by Captain Cook to

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord of the Manor when he returned from one

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<v Speaker 1>of his visits to the New World.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about the Captain the captain, captain of the ship,

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, that was planted here on the grounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's still back that way somewhile.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty amazing. There's a lot of houstory here, so

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<v Speaker 2>the whole grounds thing here is amazing. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Virginia, you know, the broken rolling hills

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<v Speaker 2>farm ground kind of thing. But I got a question

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<v Speaker 2>for you, and and maybe somebody can help me out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I take an uber out here today, me and

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Frangie and Frank had some stuff to do out

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<v Speaker 2>here as well, so we rode in the car together.

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<v Speaker 2>We're walking in this hallway and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>up on this wall is like a projection, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a naked guy in the garden, okay, walking around and

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<v Speaker 2>these jouring and I'm going, what the world is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>He should take a left hand turn and see if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mirage.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody helped me out. What's something with the with the

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<v Speaker 2>naked guy walking in the garden on a projector here

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<v Speaker 2>at the grove?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. I don't know. And I've walked the garden not

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<v Speaker 1>looking for that guy, but I've walked the garden a

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<v Speaker 1>lot this week and it's I haven't seen it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it projected here.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just tried to understand what the whole purpose of

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<v Speaker 2>that was. Anyway, just it's eccentric. Sometimes when your team

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<v Speaker 2>is one in five, you gotta have a little multiculvity, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have walked there's it's a three hundred acre property

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got about a four and a half mile

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<v Speaker 1>loop through the Whippindale wood. Is that what it's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Whippindale wood? Whipping whippin'dell would? Yeah. Anyway, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful piece of property. The jaguars like to stay here

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a short walk across the parking lot to

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<v Speaker 1>a field where they practice. They've got great facilities for

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<v Speaker 1>them put up here. Yeah, and the food is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night was Tomahawk Night, Tomahawk Ribbi, Tomahawk Ribbi night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wine. Did they stay that they didn't? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you bring your own? I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told that was not permitted. So I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have one.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the meat, and we'll hopefully get out to

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<v Speaker 1>London before the week is out and enjoy some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>One it's still there, and it's still the same, very

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<v Speaker 2>busy and a lot of people, I will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. Yeah yeah, but it's I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>to be home, all right, I'm ready to be home.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm hoping that this football team can find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to get a win before they return.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. When they return, by the way, they'll face

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. That is a week from Sunday on ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. It does. It starts a tough stretch with

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, the Eagles, and the Vikings. That's the crucial

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<v Speaker 1>catch game, by the way, And you can get your

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<v Speaker 1>tickets at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or dialing up

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<v Speaker 1>nine oh four six three three two thousand. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get there, the Jaguars have a chance to win

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday against the new England Patriots team that is

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding with a rookie quarterback that's lost five consecutive games.

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<v Speaker 1>Said to rather prizing opening day win in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Beat Cincinnati, I mean, and they won scoring sixteen points. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not exactly Joe Burrow's best day. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They get some problems in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, yes, But you know, here's the reality, the New

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<v Speaker 2>England Patriots are coming over here to London feeling confident

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<v Speaker 2>that they can get a win. I mean, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars are at right now. I mean, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars football team.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't scare anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the worst teams in football, Okay, Carolina Panthers,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns, New England Patriots, and who am

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<v Speaker 2>I missing? There's one other team somewhere in there.

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<v Speaker 1>With me in the misery that we've been and I've

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<v Speaker 1>just been focused on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know because and the reason I say that

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<v Speaker 2>is that when when you're playing and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of a hole, you have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to be real and you have to accept where you

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<v Speaker 2>are so you know how to get where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you, is this a bad team or

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<v Speaker 1>is this a team playing badly?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's bothy, I mean, because I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>reality is you are who you are, and you are

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<v Speaker 2>who your what your record says you are, and right now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they are. Do they have the talent to

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<v Speaker 2>be better than this? Absolutely? Do they have the talent

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<v Speaker 2>to be undefeated?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so could they be.

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<v Speaker 1>Three and three. Yeah, you could just be one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>You could just be like the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're a little bit more mentally tough. And to

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<v Speaker 2>use Trevor's term, what did he use?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, We've got to stop hi fragile.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fragile. Well, if you're a little bit more mentally tough,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe you can win that game in Miami when

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<v Speaker 2>you turn the ball over, Hey, no big deal, sudden change,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go, we'll get it back. Didn't do that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit mentally tougher as far as winning the

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<v Speaker 2>game against uh, the Buffalo Bills and get excited for

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<v Speaker 2>a Monday night football game, and they didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't he really show up in that ball game? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just disappointing that this team is where it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reality is until you start playing better across

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<v Speaker 2>the board, you're not gonna win. Because right now, this

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<v Speaker 2>defense is one of the worst defenses in football period.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one of the worst defenses in football offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at it from a point standpoint, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>right now in the National Football League, you're twenty second points,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's with a first overall pick quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>of Super Bowl coach you know, offensive mind, first round

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<v Speaker 2>pick wide receiverteen passes last year, ten two free agent

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers. I mean, look, you gotta be scoring more

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<v Speaker 2>points than that, you know. So they are where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, the New England Patriots are coming into this

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<v Speaker 2>game this week and they're feeling really good about where

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<v Speaker 2>they are. Look, we've got a young quarterback who led

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<v Speaker 2>us to our best points total of the year, was tough,

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<v Speaker 2>stood in the pocket with a beat up offense of line,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think that gives them confidence coming over here,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they're facing a team they believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>can beat. And then also they had a performance against Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the game got away early, they battled back in

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<v Speaker 2>that ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So take me back to the mentally tough thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been on a team that you think

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<v Speaker 1>was where this team is mentally right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately? Yes. I mean when I was in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in New York, I was with a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of football teams that we just weren't mentally tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we just couldn't We couldn't handle anything bad

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<v Speaker 2>in a game because we just didn't have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome, and I think that's part of being mentally tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of that also is that we really didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent up there. But this team here

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<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville is not supremely talented, but they have enough talent,

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<v Speaker 2>especially offensively, to bounce back. For example, you know this

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<v Speaker 2>pass game, you get an interception by Cisco Okay offense,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got enough talent build on that momentum in the

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<v Speaker 2>ball game, and then you know, score points and I

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<v Speaker 2>think they end up going three and out on the

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<v Speaker 2>following drive. I mean, that's that you can't do that,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when that side of the ball has the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of talent, because I believe the offense is talented enough

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<v Speaker 2>to be a really good football team.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the defense turned around and did it to

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<v Speaker 1>them in the third quarter. Trevor hit the touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 1>to make it twenty one to ten, and the defense

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and Trayvon Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you call that complimentary bad football? I would call

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<v Speaker 2>it it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's kind of what it is, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the unit didn't respond to something positive by the other.

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<v Speaker 1>First and third down, you get sacks and you give

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<v Speaker 1>it away with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you want to be. But that's where this football

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<v Speaker 2>team is right now. And Ryan Nielsen's look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was brought in to improve a defense and right

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<v Speaker 2>now hadn't done it.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the Jets team ever switch around? Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did the mental switch ever kick in? And no? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So then that's why I ended up at Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only team that I can tell you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing something, guys, I don't know, maybe you can help

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<v Speaker 1>me with it. I'm hearing some conversation in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>So my point is the ninety six team, were you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys mentally tough when you were four and seven? We

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<v Speaker 1>did winning change that we were tough? Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you were tough because Tom says that's the toughest.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety five and ninety six. I think we were tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there's any team I think in football we did

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety five. We didn't have a lot of talent

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety six. We were still trying to figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's so it wasn't that wasn't a team when

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<v Speaker 1>things were going poorly, and man, they were going poorly

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<v Speaker 1>at one point where it wasn't mentally.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had that mentality to war in ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is what you're talking about, because we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up turning around. We never had the mentality early

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<v Speaker 2>on in ninety six that we were like, Okay, something

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<v Speaker 2>bad happened. We were like, ah, there we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a tough team. It just wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 2>We were learning, we were learning how to be a

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<v Speaker 2>good team, and also we were developing. And uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>football team right now is past the point of developing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it, it's just got to perform. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're Doune Peterson, it's frustrating. If you're Dug Peterson, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, what can you do well?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's where you know, leadership matters, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's not easy for a head coach to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with that because you don't want to end up

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<v Speaker 2>having a team completely close their ears if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden you're you know, you're pounding the fist and

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<v Speaker 2>yelling and screaming. But at the same token, there's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a level of accountability across the board for you,

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<v Speaker 2>the entire football team. And and I think that this

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<v Speaker 2>team is at the point now that Doug needs to

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<v Speaker 2>seriously consider who's playing and who's not in percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>playtime for certain guys and certain guys not.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've reached that point where you don't just want

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<v Speaker 1>to change for a knee jerk reaction. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>see things through to a point.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be measured. We're past that, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be measured. And if you make a

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<v Speaker 2>change for somebody's level of play, that's not acceptable. Okay

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<v Speaker 2>you make you need to make that change, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes what's behind that. So in other words, okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you don't play player A, and okay, behind

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<v Speaker 2>curtain B, you have two players. Sometimes it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>how good those players are behind Curtin B. You're just

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<v Speaker 2>putting some one of those guys in just because you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure that player A is accountable that

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<v Speaker 2>his level of play is not good enough. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally see what you're saying, and and can give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't do that, then where's the accountability

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<v Speaker 2>for that player A to raise his level of play

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<v Speaker 2>to where he can play at.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have the ability to do that this week?

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<v Speaker 1>With the cornerback right? Because you're gonna get Tyson Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>back and Monteric Brown has played pretty well? Could could

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<v Speaker 1>you send the message to Ronald Darby? It's that's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little different though, because you know, in that instant, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>player A is Darby okay, not playing great? Okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you got Tyson Campbell coming back, okay, well behind

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<v Speaker 2>curtain C. It's not really even behind a curtain anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Monteric Brown is playing playing good, Yeah, playing

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<v Speaker 2>better okay than Darby?

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<v Speaker 1>Right in my opinion, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>So if Tyson comes back, I think the obvious move

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<v Speaker 2>there and it's a it's a relatively easy move. Tyson

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<v Speaker 2>comes back, he plays at his typical spot, right corner,

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<v Speaker 2>move Monteric Brown over to left corner. See how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're gonna rotate maybe Darby a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>in there as well. And I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>ratio is gonna be. Is it one to one or

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<v Speaker 2>is it you know, two to one with two for

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<v Speaker 2>Monteric one for Darby.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying. It's not the same as

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<v Speaker 1>pulling someone out of the lineup and rein putting someone

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<v Speaker 1>else into the lineup to replace them, because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of a guy that was already playing.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and here here's the other thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bring it up an example on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball, Okay, okay, And so people may be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised by this, Okay, right now, Anton Harrison did not

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<v Speaker 2>play very well this past game. You know, my level

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<v Speaker 2>of expectation for an Anton Harrison his level of play

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<v Speaker 2>should be up here. Okay. Well, his level of play

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<v Speaker 2>this past game was down here. Okay. The two previous

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<v Speaker 2>games he was pretty good. Okay, but this open the

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<v Speaker 2>season his level of play was down here. Well, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a conversation with Anton saying, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>your level of play needs to be up here. And

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not, we're gonna play Walker a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>Walker Little a little bit more in this ball game.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe rotates you, guys, because until we see your level

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<v Speaker 2>of play back here, you know, we're gonna play Walker little.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I think that, in my opinion, Anton Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>is a better player than Walker Little. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter because the production doesn't meet the expectation. There So,

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<v Speaker 2>therefore you need to have accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>So that accountability leads to mental toughness because guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to get inside their own head and square them.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, determine. Am I going to be better? Okay? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to commit to be better? Am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to perform better? Am I gonna have more attention to detail,

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<v Speaker 2>more focus? You don't know the guy. I'll throw another

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<v Speaker 2>guy out there and needs to be better for this

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<v Speaker 2>football team. Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd needs to be better

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<v Speaker 2>for this football team. Some of those open throws that

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<v Speaker 2>happened in this past game, you know, we're some breakdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to be better, you know. And you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of options at linebacker because Foyer right

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<v Speaker 2>now is on injury reserve. But you have Chad Moveman,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Ventre Miller, and so maybe you've reduced the

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of snaps that Devin Lloyd gets and maybe increase

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<v Speaker 2>the number of snaps that Ventro Miller and Chad Mouvema get.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think Ventrol Miller should be on the field

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's gonna know, he has some breakdowns too, He's

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<v Speaker 2>still a young player that's still trying to figure some

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<v Speaker 2>things out. He plays with great energy and he attacks forward,

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<v Speaker 2>but in coverage there are moments that you know, you go,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't very good, you know, but also that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of experience, and you know he needs this more time

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<v Speaker 2>on tasks, so to speak. Uh, but that's an interesting equation.

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<v Speaker 1>There is there time.

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<v Speaker 2>But again let me just real quick, Okay, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>who you have behind the guy. Again, this goes to accountability. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if the person that is in the starting role and

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<v Speaker 2>is not meeting the expectation here, then you, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>who's behind or next guy up, you look at playing

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<v Speaker 2>that next guy to let the player know from an

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<v Speaker 2>accountability standpoint, that's not where we expect your level of

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<v Speaker 2>play and where you should be. So until you can

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<v Speaker 2>get it back up in there, we're gonna play somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else to see if maybe they can do it, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of whether you believe they can or not.

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<v Speaker 1>If Doug pull some of those moves right, if he

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<v Speaker 1>makes some strategic changes, if they have a good week

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice field, if they go out and win

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, is there time for this team to go

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<v Speaker 1>from not mentally tough from fragile to mentally tough before

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<v Speaker 1>this season is over, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it gonna happen fast enough for this team

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<v Speaker 2>can get to the point where they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to meet the expectations prior to the season right

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<v Speaker 2>now that you know, look, here's the reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna meet expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>The expectations were high, really high, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But here you have to win eleven games to meet expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you and if you can find a way

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<v Speaker 2>just to get back into the playoff conversation, find a way, great.

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<v Speaker 2>But in reality, in my I'm not saying that to

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<v Speaker 2>my players if I'm Dougan, because right now, that's man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's way too big of a meal to eat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to climb out of a hole, it's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be one bite at a time, and you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta worry about this one bite this week against the

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<v Speaker 2>New England Patriots and try to find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>win this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I thought I had a manageable expectation of

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<v Speaker 1>this team, you know, on the flight over, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>if they could win these two ball games and come

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<v Speaker 1>home three and four, you have a chance with a

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<v Speaker 1>big game against the Packers in the end of October.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you go into November. If you're four and four, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on some stable ground, go battle. But they dropped

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<v Speaker 1>themselves back with the loss, and not just the loss,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way that they lost and put themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where I'm not sure even if they went

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a winning streak here and one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four ball games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it may not be enough. All right, it may

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<v Speaker 2>not be enough, but it would it would make things

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<v Speaker 2>feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it would be something that you could build

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<v Speaker 1>and get this team some confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>They need something. Do you remember when they were rating

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<v Speaker 2>three last year and everybody was talking about them as

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<v Speaker 2>being the best team in football?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't that seem like yeah, it seems like.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time ago. But here's the reality. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, what is it two and ten since then? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And if you want to be a franchise

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<v Speaker 2>that is one of the elites, this up and down

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<v Speaker 2>one good year, two bad years, that's not how That's

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<v Speaker 2>not where you want to be. I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>where Seat Cohn wants this franchise to be, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, and I understand that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a vote of confidence given to Doug Peterson

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<v Speaker 2>and to Trent Balkey this past week. But the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is is that that's not the level of expectation that

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<v Speaker 2>shot Com has for this football team. And Doug will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I mean, we're gonna talk to him here

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<v Speaker 2>in a little bit. He'll tell you, look, accountability and

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<v Speaker 2>expectation with coaches. I mean, he gets it. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>around this league a long time. He knows Trent Balkey knows.

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<v Speaker 1>That, all right. So the way it is, when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back here to Happy Hour on ten ten xl

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety two point five FM, we'll talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the week that's been at the Grove outside London,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the buzzwords we're hearing news about Roy Robertson, Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Robertson, Harris's trade and how that affects the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>from the grove here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Some buzzwords

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<v Speaker 1>this week, guys talking about focus and accountability. It's talk

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, but apparently let's go back two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>before the Colts game, which was the game where Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Kauflin was inducted into the Pride of the Jaguars. Doug

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<v Speaker 1>was asked a question at his news conference, can you

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<v Speaker 1>coach with the same style that Tom Kauflin did that

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<v Speaker 1>no nonsense, exacting, demanding you know what, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you anything about it. Doug's answer was revealing

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<v Speaker 1>because he said that day I was coached that way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Shula and Holmgren and read that was the

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<v Speaker 1>way that he came up in the game. But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think that with the modern athlete, that you could

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<v Speaker 1>go after guys and front of their peers in the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting room and hold them accountable the way that that

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<v Speaker 1>Doug and guys of your era were held accountable. But

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<v Speaker 1>I heard he did some of that on Monday. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard he was I don't want to use the word aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was very assertive and held guys accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think there's an art to doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Coffin wasn't very good at the art form

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<v Speaker 2>of it. He was, you know, he was very direct

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<v Speaker 2>and playing. But you know, then there's other coaches, which,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, folks, Tom Kaufin what the greatest coaches of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. Okay, I'm not meeting him in any way whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's also others that do it in

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<v Speaker 2>a different way, but they accomplished the same thing. Like Parcells,

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<v Speaker 2>who was an old school guy. He had a masterful

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<v Speaker 2>way of holding guys accountable in that fashion just because

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<v Speaker 2>he had a little bit better tongue, so to speak,

0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, He was a little bit

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 2>more gifted at the gap. You know, Tom wasn't extremely

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 2>gifted at the gap, whereas Parcels had a gift of gas.

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>He had a very sharp win.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 2>He was charming but then very sharp in a lot

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of ways.

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>How Pete Carroll do it.

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Pete was very different. Pete was never Pete would hold

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 2>guys accountable, but in a positive, cheery sense. It was

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird, you know, But you know, I think

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 2>also Pete grew into that and that Pete when he

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>left the NFL went to FC, I think he learned

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:38.399
<v Speaker 2>a lot about what the modern day NFL coach needs

0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 2>to be and and also where accountability needs to be at.

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I think he really grew in that aspect. But yeah,

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's if Doug did that on Monday, that's great,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. And you talk about buzzwords, I mean, there's

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>two buzzwords that came out of this past game that

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 2>that made me concerned and that you better get a

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 2>handle on this number One was quit from Andre Cisco.

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 2>The other word was culture from Doug himself. And when

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I heard that those words were used postgame, I went

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 2>so alarms were going off, right, because when you hear

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>those two words, you wonder, now, where is this team at,

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 2>where is it psyche at? Where's the leadership at? And

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and Doug was right in this week and that look,

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>he needs to start making sure that guys are held accountable.

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it is what it is, and you know,

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:29.880
<v Speaker 2>hopefully they can get this thing kind of turned around

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But when I heard when I heard

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>those two words, I was like, oh, no, quit, culture,

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Now where is this team gonna go from here? Because

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty low.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, can you connect? The one in five finished

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the last season to the one and five beginning to

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>this season, yes, you see it contiguously. In other words,

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 1>twelve games, two wins, and.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Look, I get that. You know at the beginning of

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>the year, when Doug Peterson was at about that and that,

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 2>he said, look, it's a different year as a new team. Yeah,

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 2>but you know, yeah, but there's a lot of players

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that are on this team from last year. And yes,

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get things going again, and but a

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of the same guys.

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they brought in Eric Armstead and gave David that.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 2>They haven't had the impact that they really haven't had

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the impact from a performance standpoint for this football team,

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>with the exception of Mitch Morse, who's made this offensive

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>line a little bit better.

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>But when they when they signed him, one of the

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>things that Doug went out of his way to say

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>was that they were bringing in guys who had been

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>there and done that, right, who had played at a

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:41.360
<v Speaker 1>high level Pro Bowls play.

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't matter. And let me let me sell

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you this, Brian, and not to jump on you a

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit there, but it doesn't matter what players did.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It matters what they do now. And Okay, so if

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the player comes in and he's performing well, then there's

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>a lead aspect of it. If the player comes in

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and is not performing well, there is no leadership because

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the players, the guys are looking at that guy going

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>he's dropping balls or you know, he's getting play time

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's not getting any productivity. And so then then

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the players close their ears to those guys. In the NFL,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a fact. If you don't have production, then

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>you cannot lead. Okay, write it down. It's going to

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>be true forever in the National Football League. If you

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have production, you cannot lead.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Does Trevor Lawrence have enough production to be able to

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>lead this team?

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>He does because of the position and because at moments

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>he performs at a very high level.

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but not enough, not enough.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>He's got to be better in his performance so that

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>then he can lead.

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>So who in this locker room today, based on your valuation,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Jeff can lead well.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's the hard part. You look at the guys

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 2>that are performing well, and how many guys are performing

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>well for this football team. Mitch Morris is performing well.

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>If he stands up and so something, guys are going

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to listen. You know, Cam Robinson along the offensive line,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>who has been kind of that energetic leader in the past.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>For this offensive line performance has just been it's been

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>better lately but kind of okay, But not where you

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 2>want to see him hit a top night in Buffalo.

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to see him finish, you know. And that's

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that he can do. It doesn't

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>matter about talent, but that the level of finish is

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>an effort thing and just a decision that's consciously made,

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Christian Kirk, you know, I mean, look, he

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't start the year out particularly great, right, Evan Ingram

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 2>got hurt early on, etn been kind of lead.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Based on what he did on Sunday back on the turf.

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>It kind of takes it a little away, a little bit,

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, because that's like the ultimate mistake you can

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>make as a players, to turn the ball over, you know. So,

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the hard part. And so when you're

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>not playing well and your players aren't performing well, then

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 2>the coaches need to lead even more.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>How about the defensive side, which players Wait, wait real quick,

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you've been talking a lot off the air about Brenton

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Strange can lead or is he too young?

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I think he can lead because Brenton Strange has

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>been dependable, I mean, playing and play out. But the

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>problem is is that his role isn't big enough to

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>where he can be a front of the room guy.

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>People who are listening might not be surprised. Why why

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>would you bring up Breton Strange? You love it, he's

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>playing his preer end off. I want to make sure

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I make a mistake there, you know. I mean he's

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>playing really hard and he's finishing really well. And you know,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>every every week, you know, I do a when I

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>do my film study, and it's right back there with

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>my little notepad, and yeah, you grab that notepad because

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to show people something. So every week when

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I study film, you know, I make notes on plays

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>good or bad. And so this is my list and

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll probably try to focus in on, you know, by

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>pausing and all that kind of stuff. But there's good

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>plays in the there's bad plays, Okay, Then off to

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the side over here. Okay, these are the bad place

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were very costly for this football team.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's quite a bit. Okay, But there's even

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>more bad plays that are in here. This section right

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>here is Brenton Strange plays that are just like, holy

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>how this guy can play ball and finishes and he's

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>nasty and he's tough and he then he's playing winning football.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>There's not any other player that has his own section

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>on my notepath. Okay, and Brent then that's a problem.

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>There's one guy that has his own section, and you

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>can you know, I'd like to have like five guys

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>right here, you know, like Brenton Strange and Trevor Lawrence

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Wild plays right there. Oh, here's Christian Kirks Wild plays.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Here's Josh Heinz Allen great plays. I mean, that's that's

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for before we go to break. Who

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>can lead on defense.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Josh Heines Allen Ken. But you know Josh to raise

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 2>his level of play too, you know, I mean he's

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, got dinged up a couple of games ago,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, had the concussion Pro protocol and then he

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>was wearing the Guardian cat the next game. This past game,

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have it on. Impact wasn't felt in great fashion.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you this this week, his impact

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>had better be felt, better be felt. The New England

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Patriots offensive tackles. What if they missing if they're missing

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>low their left tackle.

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not very good. Brian Trayvon Walker was miked up.

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I heard some of it this week. You can catch

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it on Jaguars social media channels.

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Can he lead, yeah, I mean he can lead.

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>He was talking a lot, but he's trying to keep

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>guys moving.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>He's and and that's a good thing. And I like Trayvon.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>He's been playing better now. He had a little bit

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of a couple of games where he's pretty quiet, but

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>this pass game he played well. Game four that he

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>played well. So that's what you want to see. Now,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, when you want to be an elite player.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not a sometime thing. It's an all the time thing.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>And Trayvon's getting better, but he's not there yet.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, This is Jaguars Happy. I were on ten

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.239
<v Speaker 1>ten XL and ninety two point five FM. We'll take

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a break and return. Much more to come from the

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Grove outside London as the Jaguars are getting ready to

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>take on the New England Patriots on Sunday at Wembley Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you just get enough of

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<v Speaker 1>a fuel for this library here at the grove. And

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>when I say Phil, I mean I don't know if

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you can see on the camera the wallpaper.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes JP posted a photo of John oser In here

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>in his element yesterday writing up a storm in the

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 3>little corner of the library, and it's very very fitting

0:30:59.080 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 3>for John.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Like we're like in a live board game of Clue, right,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of getting a Camo feel to this.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>I like it, of course, Jo.

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Does it not have a little I mean came.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it shows, but the curtains are

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 3>the exact same fabric as the wallpaper, so it very

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 3>much blends together.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>They're kind of of a Monet and then you've got

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of the Picasso on the pillows and hanging on

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the walls.

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about money or any of that. But

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm thinking mossy oak and real tree on

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>this camera. That's what I'm thinking.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Listen. You always just keep it real, big boy, You

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>just keep it really well.

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 2>You know. I do kind of get the sense that

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>we should have like a pipe and be smoking.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I got my teacup and saucer out the other day.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I had a teacup with a saucer, talk about whether.

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Where's the crazy thing we actually all around us? This

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>is no joke.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>It's prepped for tea. We have the sugar cubes.

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>There's literally sugar cubes on every table in the room.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Somebody tell me why for tea time?

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 3>They have tea time in here is tea time?

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>All like twenty four to seven?

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Did do it every day.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I think if you'd like it, we could make a

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Now. I might need a little energy boost to finish

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the show out here. You know, we got Doug Peterson,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Iro and everything. I might have to start eating so

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>many sugar cubes here.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>At some point before the show's over.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>We're going to side like a spider monkey.

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It was mister Green who committed the murder with a

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>rope in the conservatory or whether it was Missus Peacock

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>with Colonel Mustard.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>It's always Colonel Mustard in the library.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll see did you play that game? Oh? Did you play?

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Did love that game? Yeah?

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>We still played it, Chris, I didn't play that game really?

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean once about jumps out in the woods doing stuff.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I was outside.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>No board games. You could do it live here in

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the old man or at the grove. Uh. You guys

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have all access coming up here in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hours hower of it. Who's joining you? Two guests?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe a couple of guys. Yes, my favorite player.

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<v Speaker 3>You have many favorite players coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Love him.

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<v Speaker 3>You love him because he loves to block.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him because he plays every play to the whistle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a football player.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a football player.

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<v Speaker 3>We got another football player do he's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>with us as well?

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<v Speaker 1>So does that mean he's close to coming back?

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<v Speaker 3>If they come on the show, I'm sure we will

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<v Speaker 3>discuss that today. We know he's been working his way back.

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<v Speaker 3>When his original happened, original injury happened in training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>They eyed around this time, so obviously he's been working

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<v Speaker 3>his way towards that, and I'm sure we will be

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>very excited whenever he is available to play and help

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>out the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you bring up Dewey, we were going to talk

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>about changes in this block anyway, and what has to change,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start there in the secondary. And it isn't all

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>going to happen this week obviously because to Shaan Gibson

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to be able to play on Sunday. Yeh.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, just wanted to mention something real

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<v Speaker 2>quick if the league hasn't made any kind of determination

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<v Speaker 2>on to Sean Gibson as of now. Yeah, okay, that

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>which is Thursday, and it's not happening this week. A

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of people like maybe thinking, oh, maybe it can

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<v Speaker 2>happen tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it would have happened on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing that I'm kind of wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen now when he was eligible to come

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<v Speaker 2>off of it, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, they let him travel for this trip that was

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<v Speaker 3>approved because normally when you're suspending, not supposed to be

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 3>with the team, but they approved his travel to come

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 3>out here to potentially play in this game. So you

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 3>have to wonder something snagged up.

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<v Speaker 2>In a mid to that and the approval happened quite

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>some time ago, I believe, right, you know, So I

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going to happen there, but you know,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we talk about the possible return of to Sean Gibson

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 2>off of that list, and then also the return of

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Dewey Campbell, you know, Dewey, and I don't know if

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be ready anytime soon or not. I mean,

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to kind of wait and see. But

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you the safety position is a spot

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>where if one of those two guys were available, they

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>would be probably put in the lineup in place of

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>who I think Antonio Johnson's struggling right now a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, Cisco hadn't been playing particularly well

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 2>this past game. He had his probably best game of

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the year, but prior to that, he had his moments too,

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a new defense. I mean, look, I

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>get it, but it's not like the concept completely changed

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>from last year. Now, Antonio Johnson, some of the demands

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and the expectations for him changed because last year when

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>he was playing, it was kind of in that nickel

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>role more than anything, and now they're asking him to

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>play safety, which you know he's having a tough time

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kai, what's your take on Cisco's comments last week about

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<v Speaker 1>guys quitting.

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I took it necessarily as he

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 3>thought everyone was quitting.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Obviously.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I took it more as the end of the game,

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 3>when things are out of hand, maybe people aren't playing

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 3>to the end of the whistle, is how I took it.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he was saying it in the sense

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 3>that he didn't do it. I think it felt like

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 3>a we need to not do that sort of situation.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think what was I at least understood of

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>it was it was emotion. And we'll talk about the

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 3>sun jag Zam. It's actually one of my topics I'm

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>bringing up is I would rather he care and is

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 3>noticing that and like, yes, I don't want complete infighting,

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 3>but it's the apathy. It's the people that are like, oh,

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 3>we'll figure it like that bothers me more than someone

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 3>getting upset and saying, hey, they were quitting. We need

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 3>to play to the whist, so we need to do

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>this sort of thing. I would rather have that than

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>someone that's just like, oh, well, we'll figure it out

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>because they care, and at the end of the day,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they care. Yes, it needs to be redirected in a

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 3>positive way, but I want someone that cares.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, quit can be can mean a lot of things,

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, quick can mean that, Okay, I've given up

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>on trying to win this ball game and I'm.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Not going to go take it. That's why I ticket.

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of how people took Cisco's comment. But

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 2>there are other quits, I mean, quits that I view

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 2>is not as bad. For example, I quit on this

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>play and I should have just continued to give great

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>effort until the end. And it's not that I just

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>felt like I that I wanted to quit on the plane.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we can win. It's just I didn't

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>think I could make that play. Well, you know, if

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a perfect example, you go to the

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>early part of the ballgame. Anton Harrison, a right tackle,

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>quits on a block and his guy ends up smashing

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and running back. Well, don't quit on the block, keep

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 2>blocking to the whistle. Well, he's not quitting on the game,

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>and he's not quitting on his team. He just quit

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 2>too early on the play. As far as effort goes,

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>So there's different definitions. And and you know, the one

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>thing about if you say something like that, you better

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>be man enough and strong enough to walk into that

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>locker room and own it, and also to back it up,

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>because if you don't, then you're gonna have a tough

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>time in that locker room as a player.

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I saw him this week. You didn't have a black

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>eye or bloody nose, so obviously he's tough enough to

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>be able to handle that.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes when when when a guy says something like

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>something like that, I'm okay with it, you know, just

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>because you know what, the status quo ain't working, you know,

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and if it just if it gets everybody riled up

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit and gets everybody to pay attention, good,

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>let it, let it, let it happen. You know, it's

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>all good. What else has to change the performance of

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 2>everybody's got to get better? Here here, here, And I'll

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 2>give you a perfect example. Here's some things that are

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>very easily controllable. Okay, off of my list. Okay, here

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>we go again. On Okay, and I got some here.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Just real quick fall start fall start drop false start

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>personal PI call okay, P I call another drop, another drop,

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>another drop. Those are easy, easily fixed things. Okay, awareness

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>on finishing play and toon Harrison. Okay, going back to

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 2>play number fourteen and the and the all plays real, Okay,

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>finish the play. Maybe it gets another three yards. Well

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe he doesn't make a difference on that play, but

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the next down, in the next down makes it more manageable,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>so it makes a difference. I mean, all of these

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>things that are controllable, make them better. That's easily fixable things. Now,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>can you fix where the guy gets the ball punched out?

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure you can. There's another awareness thing. Two hands on

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 2>the ball, right, have an ingram going down to the ground.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 2>He's got one arm on it. Should have covered it

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>up with two. No one he's going down to the ground.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Didn't do it. I mean, that's an awareness thing. That's

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>an easily fixable thing. Fix the things that are easily fixable.

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>If you get beat. Okay, if Kay's a faster than

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 2>me and she runs by me and catches a touchdown

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 2>pass that happens, you know. I mean that's part of football.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Who fixes it?

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>The players and the coaches. Okay, players first player, player, Well,

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I think both. I mean I put them all in

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the same boat. Put them all in the same boat,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>because you know what, as coaches, you know, how many

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>takeaways does our defense have. This defense in the past

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>did a really good job with takeaways, okay, and er

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Mike Cole last year they were in great shaper. And

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the big reasons why is I believe that

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.959
<v Speaker 2>the coaches, the coaches that they had, did a really

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>good job of coaching the awareness of takeaways. Okay, So

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 2>there's an example of look, you know, do a better

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.280
<v Speaker 2>job of coaching the awareness of takeaways to this defense

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 2>right here, because right now they're not doing a good

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>enough job and the takeaways that they have or are

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>not good enough for this team to win.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because when you talk to Ryan Nielsen and

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he's they talk about how it's a focus about how

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they work on it every day.

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it is as much as it

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 3>was last year. Last year it was I want to say,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 3>their sole focused was takeaways, and I remember I felt

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 3>like the back half of the season the secondary had

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 3>issues probably that whole season as well, But if you

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 3>can get turnovers, it's less of a burden. And I

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like because it just feels like that. Some of

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the other teams we play, they march down the field,

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 3>and when you're not getting a turnover at any point

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 3>you're on the field that entire time, they're getting tired.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 3>You can't sustain that for the entirety of a football game.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 3>So by the nature of getting able to get turnovers,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.479
<v Speaker 3>that's what helped them before. And I don't know, because

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 3>you can't fully change personnel at this point in the season,

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 3>that's what's really beneficial for them.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I heard from from members of the Bears media, from

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Chicago media that they are maniacal about the takeaways. And

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>you can see the results stripping the ball, you can tell.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>But why isn't every defensive coordinator in the league then

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>maniacal about the takeaways? If that's the number one an

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>indicator over the course of a season, that that take

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>away giveaway racio.

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of how much it's talked about, and

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>it just it's gotta be talked about in a greater fashion,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>with a greater emphasis and a more common amount of time.

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, after points allowed, the next one on the

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>list is takeaways.

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>And they're dead last, I think in takeaways, aren't they dead?

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Last right now, national go.

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Back and look special teams, so yeah, they can't be

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>much above.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Twenty ninth twenty ninth and takeaways. But as the defense,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know because I mean they don't separate special

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>teams from so we got the extra one defensive.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, so jacks all actions the one hour editions

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a full hour from here, the lives are.

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I might bring some tea for Jeff.

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll drink tea. I mean, just put some of that

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>sugar in there.

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll be all throw some dirt the mossy oak that

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll see out there.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Are we doing the show or in the same room?

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I think we'll be here maybe?

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Cool, get the vibes. I gotta wear my smoking jack

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>for that.

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Yo velvet, the crushed velvet camo jacket.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let you bring out your texts time. Brad Bradmester,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what it was. He had a cameo sport cut,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>which is like he was like my hero.

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Listen. Yeah, and he had the truck on the big

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>wheels with the cbe radio.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Total redneck.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>God love him with six daughters. Uh, they couldn't refine.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Him, no, b Brad Brad is great, all right, we'll take.

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<v Speaker 1>The break, come back, one final segment of Jaguars Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll lead you right into the Doug Peterson Show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ten ten XL and ninety two point five FM.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Happy Hour on Jaguars Radio. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>one final segment here on Jaguars Happy Hour on ten

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0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to yesterday's report because the boys were quite

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>off the practice field yet all these guys were listed

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>as limited. Eric Armstead, who has been limited with a

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>knee injury all year all year long, gave Davis with

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the shoulder stands out Evan Ingram. Obviously there they're cognitive

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that hamstring traves ETN is a hamstring and Tyson Campbell,

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>who's working his way hamstring.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be that's going to be the interesting one.

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>There is Tyson Campbell. You know, let's go back last

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>year he had a hamstring other one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, cost him five games.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And I talked to Tyson before the Bears game. A

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit about it and how how was he feeling

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 2>and all of that, and he felt really positive about it.

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>He said it was a little different injury, and I'm

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>not going to go into specifics because you know, you

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that, but he said it was

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 2>a little different from his other one last year. But

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>even if it's a little bit different, the concern there

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>is last year when he came back after the one

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>last year, he wasn't the same player. And at one

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 2>point he actually kind of got demoted again and put

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 2>as an inactive player. I believe it was for a game,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 2>and then was brought back again a little bit later.

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, So where's he going to be at? You know,

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean you'd like to as soon while we get

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>him back and he's back one hundred percent, Well maybe

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 2>he's not.

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Listen. You, more than anybody can speak to the mental

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>side of an injury, right about You talked at length

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>through the years about your knee and coming back from

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>ACL and how long it took you to get comfortable.

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>But it's the same thing with a hamstring, right, maybe

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>even more so because those are much easier to injure

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>than an ACL.

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh and do you trust it, you know, I mean,

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 2>are you trusting it to open it up? And here's

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>the here's one part with a hamstring, And and again

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a really many pulled muscles except for

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>a growing when I played. I didn't have a hamstring

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>until I'm was old and way out of the game.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>But with a hamstring and other injuries, when you're working

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>your way back, you're still not playing a game. So

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 2>in other words, what you're repping in practice and what

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you're repping with the trainers is it's not as sudden

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>and as reactive as it is in a game, and

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not put in some of these precarious body positions

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>that you are in a game.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Which is why guys with hamstrings and coaches in particular,

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>are really particular about when.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so you got to make sure that it's back.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And look, he's been given a lot of time to

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>come back, But you know, until you see it, and

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>until you know, you don't know. So you know, fingers

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>crossed that he's going to be the same player that

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.240
<v Speaker 2>he was prior to the injury, But you know, injury

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>has a way of determining that.

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we've talked enough about the quarterback.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>What is your magic play sheet there? Tell you about

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>how the quarterback played in a game in which the

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars scored sixteen points and didn't play very well at all.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>But what does he tell you about his chances of

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:01.439
<v Speaker 1>playing better this week?

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I liked, I liked, I thought he played okay

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 2>this past game. But the reality is you still had

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 2>the interception which should not have been thrown, and then

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you had the underthrown ball to Brian Thomas Junior. When

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>you when you get opportunities like that and you've got

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>that much separation, separation, you can't miss that, you can't

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And as a quarterback, and if you're gonna be the franchise, god,

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta make them. I mean, playing and simple. You have

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>to make those throws because when you don't, it'd be different. Brian.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 2>If it was okay, Brian Thomas Junior only had a

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 2>half a step and the defender were touching the arm

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 2>as Brian's catching it, and maybe the ball was just

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:45.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit out of location.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>You hit the back of the defender it was two

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>steps off.

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, But when Brian's got five steps on a

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>guy and you vastly underthrow it to where the defender

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>can come up in there and then have a PBu

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>pass breakup. That's not okay.

0:46:58.160 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Why does he do that?

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't does he not trust? I think

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 2>part of it is is the confidence, and the more

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you have success, the more confidence that you have, the

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>more you just unleash it. You just just let it

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 2>rip instead of thinking about it.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember in twenty twenty one, which was just

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>an absolute train wreck of a season, you think, yeah, try,

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I was starting to think of.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>This, by the way. I was just wondering, did you

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 2>have an urban moment there when you were trying to

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>pronounce Roy Robertson Harris's name?

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>But I always got Harrison, which right, Roy Robertson Harrison.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just a natural extension Robinson Harris. I have to

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>remind myself that I don't have to worry about it anymore.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He would come in to his news conferences after games

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and on Wednesday, and he was supremely confident. He said,

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I know the kind of player I am, I know

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>what my abilities are, and I know what I can do.

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>And back then it was easy to believe that because

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>our memory of him was all the years at Clemson

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and he had always done it. Do you suppose that

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>he still has that level of confidence or have some

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 1>ups and downs this season maybe edged a little that out.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it has. I mean, look, this team

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>is there's two and ten and it's last twelve games

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and he's a big part of that. And you know,

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>human nature is is that if you don't have success,

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 2>then you start to have confidence issues. That's just part

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of human nature. I believe that he's still a confident

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>player to some extent, but not a supremely confident I

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>can win it, give me the ball mentality yet and

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>that takes time to do it, and also takes a

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 2>football team around him that in a coach that that's

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>helping all of that, And right now that's not happening.

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 2>What would you take this has been? It's why that's

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 2>why this is the I'm calling this the unhappy hour.

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you say that, and I thought it was

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a most exciting not because he No, No,

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>but listen, if Trevor walked in here and said, hey,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, where's missus Green? Is the rope around here? Anywhere?

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>If Trevor walked in here right now, and sat down

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>on that couch. What would you tell them?

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I would ask him where's confidence is at? You know,

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 2>where's your confidence at? How can you raise the level

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 2>of play of those guys around you? What is it

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like in the huddle with your offensive lineman? What do

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you do with them away from practice in the building,

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>because you know that's a big part of football too,

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I know that there's a lot that

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 2>has been written and Trevor's talked a lot about the

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 2>relationship that he has with Christian Kirk kind of away

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 2>from the field. You know, you got to have a

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>little bit of that with your offensive lineman too. You know,

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 2>he gets them blocking a little bit harder on every play.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, Thanks, it's been fun.

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to a happier hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna get Doug Peterson a here and hopefully

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:49.479
<v Speaker 1>we'll be a big embulent sunshine sort of smile.

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, sunshines and rainbows are good, and I would like

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to have two happy hours next week.

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 1>From your lips to God's Ears and hopefully the coach

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>agrees with that. That's next, by the way, that Doug

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Peterson show. That'll do it for a happy hour. On

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<v Speaker 1>ten ten XL and on ninety two point five FM

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to our entire broadcast crew and let's get our

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<v Speaker 1>number two and the Doug Peterson Show started right away