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Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions for you about Indian Wells,

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Speaker 1: we have some incredible, incredible things to talk about that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start with Tommy Paul getting to the

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Speaker 1: finals in Acapulco and his match against Taylor Fritz, a

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent contender for most dramatic match of the year.

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Speaker 2: Three over three and a half hours to play best

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Speaker 2: our great friend Andrea Pekovich, who can we say was

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Speaker 2: Mark Knowles obviously a former player himself, so it was

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Speaker 2: this is like a Greek tragedy. And then later on

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Speaker 2: at the end of the match, towards the end of

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Speaker 2: And it felt like someone was going to They were

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Speaker 2: So it just shows you how well he's you know,

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Speaker 2: Taylor Fritz obviously, you know, one of the best plays

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Speaker 3: Being ranked where he is now at five. It was

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Speaker 2: And then I got to give props to Alex Demonor,

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Speaker 2: Tommy Paul played three and a half hours, finished at

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Speaker 2: So both guys went into the final and you just thought,

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Speaker 2: and it was it was another unbelievable, unbelievable match. I mean, Tommy,

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Speaker 3: So it was an amazing week.

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Speaker 2: And as we said, let's put a combined event in Akapulco.

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Speaker 3: Please think we should just take Miami and put it

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Speaker 1: used to be great. Now it's terrible. Tournaments are great

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Speaker 2: Oh, he doesn't even make de bail on a tennis

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Speaker 2: because we've seen that. We don't need to see it.

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Speaker 1: So I felt like it was really actually well handled,

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Speaker 3: It's okay. Tommy didn't care at that point.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of match when you watch it, not

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Speaker 2: So you know, as I said, amazing tournament, incredible effort

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Speaker 3: He wins his biggest title ATP five hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's won a couple of two fifties, and he always

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Speaker 3: And he looked great. He looked great. He looked right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, tremendous respect for one another as well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hard workers, head down, positive, no drama.

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Speaker 1: If he did, Let's let's go north of the Border

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Speaker 1: my suggestion to rename it the Keeso Kup, which is

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Speaker 1: Austin's two fifty. Austin is a great place to hang out.

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Speaker 1: It's a great place to play. I've played a ton

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Speaker 1: who was a former podcast guest from Ukraine, looking sharp

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Speaker 1: in her Wilson kit, won the tournament. What a great

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Speaker 2: and eyser one thing and how to hit a fourhand

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Speaker 2: back end and serve and movement to the debt and

439
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Speaker 2: all that we can help you with that. But I

440
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Speaker 2: think of anything, it's about the mental side of making

441
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Speaker 2: you feel like you can be better than you even

442
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Speaker 2: think you are completely right.

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Speaker 1: I also think, you know, there's something really as we

444
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Speaker 1: just noted with mrchal Costia, there's something really powerful about

445
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Speaker 1: belief or like you were saying with Donna beekech like

446
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Speaker 1: belief that she can get back, belief that she just

447
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Speaker 1: wants to be at the highest level, and after a

448
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Speaker 1: really serious amount of time spent away from the game

449
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Speaker 1: with injuries, that she can believe in herself enough to

450
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Speaker 1: be pointed in the right direction. I do want to

451
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Speaker 1: say something a little bit gendered, and if you're one

452
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Speaker 1: of these men who is good about this, then just

453
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Speaker 1: consider yourself an ally. But in my experience, male coaches

454
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Speaker 1: and female coaches are quite different in the way they

455
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Speaker 1: motivate players. They're quite different in the way that they

456
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Speaker 1: talk to players. And maybe that's less true at the

457
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Speaker 1: pro level, but certainly college coaches. My college coach was

458
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Speaker 1: an absolute ass clown. He was a man who couldn't

459
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Speaker 1: beat half of the women on the team. That was

460
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Speaker 1: pretty common for d One. His name again, Blake, Blake,

461
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Speaker 1: Come at me, Blake, you know. Unfortunately, his story was

462
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Speaker 1: pretty similar to a lot of other d One coaches, Like,

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of men are motivating by fear or anger,

464
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Speaker 1: and you know, I hope that that's changed, but from

465
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Speaker 1: what I've seen, I don't know that it has changed

466
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Speaker 1: enough to my liking. And I think there's really something

467
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Speaker 1: amazing about, if not working with a woman exclusively, then

468
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Speaker 1: having a woman on your team, because the vibes, especially

469
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Speaker 1: female player, have got to be positive. In my experience,

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Speaker 1: women are much much better motivated when they are supported,

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Speaker 1: when they feel like they have a team that believes

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Speaker 1: in them. And to be clear, there are plenty of

473
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Speaker 1: men who do this and do it well. Darren k

474
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Speaker 1: Hole jumps out as an immediate example. He's so clearly positive,

475
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Speaker 1: he's so clearly in supportive as player, he's so clearly

476
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Speaker 1: creating an environment where they can thrive. But I do

477
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Speaker 1: think like the sort of adversarial coaching style is just

478
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Speaker 1: really really not helpful. And I would love to see,

479
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Speaker 1: as you said, a lot of former female players getting

480
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Speaker 1: into the coaching game because we've seen it succeed and

481
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Speaker 1: it's awesome to see. And nothing's more fun than seeing

482
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Speaker 1: a legend in the box and being like, oh, look

483
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Speaker 1: there's Davenport who's coaching Madison Keys, Oh look here's you know,

484
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Speaker 1: we're going to go to Emily Maresmo who's coaching you know,

485
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Speaker 1: Luca Pui or Andy Murray. And I think, to me,

486
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Speaker 1: it just adds such a fun layer for the spectator

487
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Speaker 1: as well. So that's what I want to call out.

488
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Speaker 1: Should we talk about Aniewells.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, we I just want to also add in,

490
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Speaker 2: we can't forget about Medvedev winning another tone of after

491
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Speaker 2: beating you know, his good friend Rublev, they had a

492
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Speaker 2: funny exchange at the net and obviously in the post

493
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Speaker 2: match with the trophy, and it was really cute to

494
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Speaker 2: see Rublev light being like he didn't like Medvedev, didn't

495
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Speaker 2: get a lot of help from the Russian Tennis Federation

496
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Speaker 2: and he had to do it hard. And there's just

497
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Speaker 2: a massive respect there between the two, and because Medvedev

498
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Speaker 2: just killed him.

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Speaker 3: Six two, six two.

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Speaker 2: But I got to give so much credit to Medvedev.

501
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Speaker 2: He's really struggled over the last twelve months, you know,

502
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Speaker 2: getting that number one ranking and everyone thought he was

503
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Speaker 2: going to be the guy to take out Novack and

504
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Speaker 2: Raffa and he was going to win the Australian Open

505
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Speaker 2: after winning the US Open, and I think after losing

506
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Speaker 2: that match against Raffa, he really struggled mentally and physically

507
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Speaker 2: and everything struggled last year. So it's really nice because

508
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Speaker 2: I really like him. I really like Medvedev. I think

509
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Speaker 2: he's great for the sport. He's funny, he's he's cool,

510
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Speaker 2: he's just chill, he's like whatever.

511
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Speaker 3: You know, you see him and he's hi, how's it going,

512
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Speaker 3: you know.

513
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Speaker 2: I just he's just I just really really like him,

514
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Speaker 2: and I think it's great to see him back at

515
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Speaker 2: the top because when he's playing well, oh my god,

516
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Speaker 2: is he hard to beat. So a double thumbs out

517
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Speaker 2: for Medvedev, great weight for again for Rublev, he's just

518
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Speaker 2: always he's always at the end. It's just got to

519
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Speaker 2: get you know, he needs a little mental help, let's

520
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Speaker 2: be funny. Yeah, but but I also love him.

521
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Speaker 3: He's got a great.

522
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Speaker 2: Personality and so yeah, so I'm pumpedous see those guys

523
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Speaker 2: doing well, and we'll see how they go in Indian Wells.

524
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Speaker 2: But Medvedev absolutely has got to go in as the favorite,

525
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Speaker 2: even though Alkoraz is in it. I think that Medvedev's

526
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Speaker 2: probably the favorite to win Indian Wells.

527
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Speaker 3: But what's it's great?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about Indian Wells is if you

529
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Speaker 1: can win that, you can win anything. Like we've seen

530
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Speaker 1: Grand Slam champions on their way to winning their first

531
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Speaker 1: trophy lift the trophy out in the desert and so

532
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Speaker 1: for me, it'll be really really fun to see, how,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the players who've been perhaps still

534
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Speaker 1: in Europe not necessarily having shifted to that, maybe maybe

535
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Speaker 1: handle the desert. Keep playing out there is really weird.

536
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Speaker 1: The air is incredibly dry, but the courts are really slow.

537
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Speaker 1: So it's sort of of a fun like kind of

538
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Speaker 1: mix where it's like it's not it's not a fast court,

539
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Speaker 1: but it's but it's you feel like you're choking you

540
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Speaker 1: play out there.

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Speaker 2: At least, you know what I want to say, We

542
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Speaker 2: failed to also got to give Nicholas Jerry, who won

543
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Speaker 2: the tournament in Chile in front of his home crowd.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was incredible.

545
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Speaker 2: The crowd was absolutely bonkers. But you know, I want

546
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Speaker 2: to put a little side money on him doing well

547
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Speaker 2: at Wimbledon because I think he's got a great game

548
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Speaker 2: for grass, even though we won on clay, Like he

549
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Speaker 2: just he loves to come into the net and he

550
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Speaker 2: serves them molleys. He's a big flat hitter of the ball.

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Speaker 2: So watch out for him to do well at Wimbledon

552
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Speaker 2: this year. But what a great story that was, fighting

553
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Speaker 2: back and winning that second set against Etcheverry and then

554
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Speaker 2: you know, closing out the match. It was incredible to

555
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Speaker 2: watch a Chilean went in Chile, so massive congratulations.

556
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Speaker 3: To him as well.

557
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Speaker 2: So it was an awesome week at tennis. I got

558
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Speaker 2: to tell it's just getting us rapped up for the

559
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Speaker 2: for the Big two Sunshine Double, and obviously going into

560
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Speaker 2: that you're favorite season, the clay court season.

561
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Speaker 1: Bring on the clay court season. I'm really excited about it.

562
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Speaker 1: Although you know, like going out to Indian Wells every

563
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Speaker 1: year is just such a treat. It's such a fun experience,

564
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Speaker 1: and it to me, it's better than the US Open.

565
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Speaker 1: It is the best tournament in America totally. It is

566
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Speaker 1: such a fun experience. You can go out there and

567
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Speaker 1: really like soak up the amazing desert light. The facility

568
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Speaker 1: is just awesome, and again they've made it feel part

569
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Speaker 1: of the community. So you go out there and you're

570
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Speaker 1: doing all these different things, and then obviously watching tennis

571
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Speaker 1: at a venue that has been really taken care of

572
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Speaker 1: by the owners and the tournament organizers. Like it's just

573
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Speaker 1: a it's a spectacular experience, and I think if you're

574
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Speaker 1: gonna look ahead to your calendar, you know, for next year,

575
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Speaker 1: think about it or maybe even this year, the Jet

576
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Speaker 1: Blue is running a regional flight from New York City

577
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Speaker 1: direct to Palm Springs. For me, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to disagree that Medvedev is the favorite coming

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Speaker 1: into this tournament, just given how good he has looked,

580
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Speaker 1: how confident he is playing, and I think he really

581
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Speaker 1: has like the off pace ball to really take advantage

582
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Speaker 1: of like a bunch of wacky sort of results. He

583
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Speaker 1: doesn't need the peace necessarily, obviously he can handle anything

584
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Speaker 1: that you throw at him. But I like that he's

585
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: so unorthodox just in how he plays and his spins

586
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: and he's fast. Alcoraz's tough given his injury, even though

587
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Speaker 1: he had a pretty good result in Rio a couple

588
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it's tough to see him taking the

589
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Speaker 1: trophy home just because I don't know what kind of

590
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Speaker 1: shap he's going to be in. That said, it's exciting

591
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Speaker 1: that he's back in a big way. Anybody else on

592
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Speaker 1: the men's side stand out to you as favorites.

593
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, you go look at cam Nourri.

594
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Speaker 2: He's won the tournament before, he just beat Alcaaz in

595
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Speaker 2: the final and play he's fitness level, he knows that

596
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Speaker 2: he can get through this type of a tournament and

597
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Speaker 2: win it.

598
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Speaker 3: Taylor Fritz obviously last year's champion.

599
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Speaker 2: Anytime he won a tournament, when you go back there,

600
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Speaker 2: you feel really good and you feel like you know

601
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Speaker 2: how to win the tournament. So I would put those

602
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Speaker 2: two on the side burner doing well. And obviously the

603
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Speaker 2: Americans Tommy Paul will see how he does in Francis Tiafo.

604
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Speaker 2: They're going to have tremendous support, So I'll see those

605
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: guys out there. And obviously on the women's side, you

606
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: got to look at egist Fiantec's last year's champion as well.

607
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: The courts perfect for her, the conditions are great for her,

608
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Speaker 2: and we'll see. You know, Sabolenka, what the hell's happening

609
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Speaker 2: with Budoza, Like can she string a couple of matches

610
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Speaker 2: together without getting injured? The potential that Bianca Andreski will

611
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: play Egan in the third round, so you know, we've

612
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Speaker 2: got we've got players like Sophia Kennon playing against a

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Speaker 2: belief Seasons in the first round, like like that's just

614
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Speaker 2: the worst so or I don't know, I mean, yes,

615
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Speaker 2: it's the best, I guess in some ways, but that canage.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you have a giant combined tournament that's one hundred

617
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Speaker 1: and twenty a draw on each side, it's just carnage

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Speaker 1: because the first couple of days you're just like, who's

619
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Speaker 1: going to survive out of this? Like both Son Stevens

620
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Speaker 1: and Sophia Kennon have Grand Slams and they're playing. I

621
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Speaker 1: think they're both unseated and they're playing in the first round. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome to me.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you what's happening with Paula Bodosa. She

625
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Speaker 1: and Sablanca are touching each other's butts on the frack quirt.

626
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a not insubstantial, unsubstantial amount of

627
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Speaker 1: Twitter that is convinced these two are having some sort

628
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Speaker 1: of romance now saying they both have boyfriends. And I'm

629
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Speaker 1: not here trying to call everyone gay, but I'm just saying,

630
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Speaker 1: leads the water's.

631
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Speaker 3: Fine if you want to, you know, come on and

632
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: jump in. Yeah, well I can.

633
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Speaker 2: I can say they both have boyfriends, and they're both

634
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Speaker 2: very much like those guys. So I think that they

635
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: are just really good pals and they like having a

636
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Speaker 2: little bit of a MUK Plus they know that Jimmy

637
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Speaker 2: who took that photo, Jimmy forty eight photography.

638
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: J J loves tennis.

639
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 2: He's one of the great guys, and he is an

640
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: amazing photographer and all the players get to use his

641
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: photos because he's kind of sanctioned by the WTA, so

642
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: they all know he's there, so they.

643
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Speaker 3: Know that they hamming it out. Pop up, They're hamming

644
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Speaker 3: it up.

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Speaker 2: They love it. They're both a lot of fun. So listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Let's have a bit of fun.

647
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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. And part of why I like the

648
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Sublanca Badusa friendship is that they are both They both

649
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: play better when they're loose and relaxed and fun. And

650
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Speaker 1: I like very much the idea that you know, I

651
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Speaker 1: always like when sports look like they are full of

652
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Speaker 1: joy and creativity. And you know, Sablanca is ferocious on court,

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Speaker 1: and Paula Budosa can be pretty intense. But it's really

654
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Speaker 1: fun to think of these athletes who we get to

655
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: watch as you know, essentially big kids who are getting

656
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: to play a sport and hit a tennis ball across

657
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: the night at each other. So to me, you know,

658
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Speaker 1: it's hard to watch the matches where the athletes look

659
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: like they're playing from a place of fear or anger,

660
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Speaker 1: Like that's just not my vibe. And so for me

661
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: to see them like goop around and having a good time,

662
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm super here here for it and I love it.

663
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Speaker 1: I would love to see Paula Badosa back it up

664
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Speaker 1: or you know, Sabalanka to continue a really great win.

665
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: I think the tour is great when they are both

666
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: firing and all pistons, But hard to discount Ega just

667
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: because it's always you know, it's I think at this

668
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: point it's kind of her tournament to lose. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously she looks she's at her very best spot. You know,

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Speaker 1: I look, Rebacina Sabolenka, obviously you know, Jikova found her

671
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Speaker 1: form again. So we'll see, Okay, So, Renee, we talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the preview. We talked a little

673
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Speaker 1: bit about, uh, the lead up from your experience just

674
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: going out here every year, and then we should wrap

675
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Speaker 1: it up because you have a live show to host.

676
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Speaker 1: What is your favorite part of going out to India ours,

677
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: what's your favorite sort of palm springs coach hell about

678
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: ali Yuka Desert, Joshua Tree, vibe.

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00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: It's just everything. I just love it. It's so relaxed.

680
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: It's just the weather's beautiful most of the time. Sometimes

681
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: it can get windy and.

682
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: Cold, and that's not fun.

683
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: That's not your fun days out there.

684
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: But just the people as well, everyone's you know, they

685
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: just love tennis out there. They go and watch all

686
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: the doubles. There's a lot of great singles players that

687
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: play doubles out there, so it's just you know, it

688
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: was one of my first big tournaments that I won

689
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Speaker 2: as a player, so I just have so many great

690
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: memories when it was played at the Hiatt Grand Champions

691
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: that was before they built the big stadium.

692
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Speaker 1: I just it's just.

693
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Speaker 3: It's just one.

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Speaker 2: It is, without question, one of one or two three

695
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: of the favorite spots on the tour for all the players,

696
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: because the fans are amazing, the crowds are just I

697
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: cannot tell you how great they are that and it's

698
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: just a relaxed atmosphere. It's kind of like as Australia feel.

699
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: Just it's just really everyone loves it. The hotel's a

700
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Speaker 2: nice it's just a great place to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's the hiking in the desert, getting to

703
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: go out to Joshua Tree, having like a stake at

704
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: mister Lyon's. You know, it's just all the stuff, the

705
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: mid century modern homes. And then you said it like,

706
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: obviously this tournament generates so much money. Larry Ellison, the

707
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: owner has put in so much money. There's just a

708
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of investment. But it doesn't feel like it

709
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: only benefits the corporate business sort of account holders who

710
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Speaker 1: are gonna get the court side seats but then not

711
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: show up to the matches. People who are out there

712
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: really want to be there. The practice courts are accessible,

713
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: free and packed, and you know, you're in the stadium

714
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: court or you're out on court, you know, fifty nine,

715
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: and everybody's pretty excited to be there to watch tennis

716
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: and to support the fans, and it's international. So to me,

717
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: that's what tennis should be. It should be. Yeah, of

718
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: course we've got the bold face names. Of course we

719
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Speaker 1: have the high end stuff. You get the Nobu and

720
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Speaker 1: the champagne toasts, but you also have like just like

721
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Speaker 1: a really cool, fun circus kind of vibe where people

722
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: feel like they can step into it and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that they have to, you know, have a direct

724
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Speaker 1: line to you know, Jamie Diamond at Chase Bank to

725
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Speaker 1: get them a corporate seat. You know what I mean?

726
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Speaker 1: That to me is really cool. It's a cool it's

727
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Speaker 1: a cool double play to pull that off. So I

728
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Speaker 1: can't say enough about it. We're gonna have some very

729
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Speaker 1: special content from the tournament. You and I are going

730
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Speaker 1: to be doing a lot of interviews, talks, chats, hangs

731
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Speaker 1: on the ground. Racket has built a little immersive site,

732
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Speaker 1: So if you're out there, come by our racket say

733
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Speaker 1: we ask come, say hi or name. Will be there

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Speaker 1: this weekend. I will be there starting Thursday. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking forward to the flight there and back

738
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Speaker 2: in forty eight hours, but I definitely am looking forward

739
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Speaker 2: to getting out there and seeing some old friends. Obviously,

740
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Speaker 2: not traveling as much as I used to, I don't

741
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Speaker 2: get to see some of my good friends, so it'll

742
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Speaker 2: be nice to see them out there. But anyway, everybody,

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy. I hope you enjoyed the pod

744
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Speaker 2: first of all, and second of all, enjoy the next

745
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Speaker 2: week or two. We will be we will we will

746
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Speaker 2: have it all for you. Maybe we'll get the old

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Speaker 2: fashion correspondent Andrea Petkovich to come and give us a

748
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Speaker 2: you know, tell us how her TV experience was now

749
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Speaker 2: that she's a full time commentator.

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Speaker 3: By the looks of it, who no one was better?

751
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Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, so Caitlin, thanks mate, I gotta

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Speaker 2: go get ready for my show.

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Speaker 3: So everybody, thanks for joining us this week. We'll see

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Speaker 3: you next week. Baby,