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Speaker 1: how are we doing here on a Monday with training

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Speaker 1: than Levi's Now, Levi was a student of the game

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Speaker 1: and knew the defense inside and out and could play

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Speaker 1: within himself. Was very solid obviously for the Bills for

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Speaker 1: four years. But you've got to put kayer Elam athletically

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Speaker 1: above him because of where he was drafted, in the

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Speaker 1: prospect that he is in his physicality. So even so,

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Speaker 1: if Trey is not ready to go, you still think

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Speaker 1: he got somebody as good as Trey was as a

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Speaker 1: rookie when he was great. Right, So yes, so those

435
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Speaker 1: are kind of interchangeable choices for me now more than

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Speaker 1: the other though, well tradevious, yeah, I mean, because he's

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Speaker 1: a proven commodity and you know that kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're getting. But that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: the roof on kayre Elam isn't even higher than that.

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Speaker 1: You know, his floor is pretty good. So kayre Elam

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Speaker 1: is going to be a good player, I think, And

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Speaker 1: so I'm almost taking that for granted at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think that's almost

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Speaker 1: a given that kayre Elam is gonna be at the

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Speaker 1: same point where Levi Wallace was a year ago at

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Speaker 1: the first snap of training camp. So Tredavius is the

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Speaker 1: wild card now if he's if listen, if Tardavius comes

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Speaker 1: back and he's one hundred percent and he's lining up

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Speaker 1: on the first snap of training camp like nothing happened.

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Speaker 1: And Kayer Elam's on the other side, and you've got

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Speaker 1: poorer and hide and you've got all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: tempts settled in de Kuan Jones and Jordan Phillips and

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Speaker 1: Von Miller and Ed Oliver and aj and Gregor's I mean,

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey. The pressure kind of eases on Ken Dorsey

455
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna have a wide margin of error a

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Speaker 1: little bit on offense, even though they're the supposed to

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Speaker 1: be this juggernaut. I mean, this team looks I mean,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're just like going, oh my gosh,

459
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Speaker 1: just get there healthy, Just get into the season healthy,

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Speaker 1: and let's go and stay healthy. The poor Yer contract stuff.

461
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Speaker 1: If you've got two corners of the quality of Trey

462
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Speaker 1: White and Kayer Edam, if Elam is what we think

463
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be, okay, you got a weak spot it

464
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Speaker 1: who you know? Even if Jordan Poyer says I'm out,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, well we got might have a hole

466
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: there for a minute, but you got guys there. The

467
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: Bills really like behind Jordan Poyer, he's not now. Jordan

468
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: Poorier was the best safety in football last year. For

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Speaker 1: my money, he was in the conversation. It's like Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen being the MVP and he's in the conversation. You'd

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Speaker 1: miss him both on the field and off. But I don't.

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Speaker 1: This team is so deep and so talented. I don't

473
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Speaker 1: know that any of these three options if you take

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Speaker 1: him off there are catastrophic. As much as you want

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Speaker 1: to see Tredavious White because we all love him and

476
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Speaker 1: you know, love him to death and want him in there.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Kyrie, and we invested in him and

478
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Speaker 1: we kind of got our hopes up for him, and

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Speaker 1: everybody loves Jordan. So yeah, it's you know it kind

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Speaker 1: of emotionally, it's more catastrophic than I think it would

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Speaker 1: be production wise, right, I mean, I think in terms

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Speaker 1: of probably poritizing these, I would just go ABC. I

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Speaker 1: would say, why it's cleared for week one is my

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Speaker 1: top priority, and then Elam looking start already by the

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Speaker 1: end of camp is probably priority two. And then no

486
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: offense to Jordan, but his contract issues are settled by

487
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Speaker 1: week one, and I want to believe that this team

488
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: would not be distracted. If that kind of stuff lingers,

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Speaker 1: maybe longer than anticipated, but it's hard to predict that, Like,

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Speaker 1: you don't know where that could go. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we all are understanding of the fact that Brandon

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00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: Bean has a very healthy relationship with just about every

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Speaker 1: player on this roster and their appointed representatives. He's made

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00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: a point of doing that and it has led to

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: a lot of for lack of a better term contract

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Speaker 1: between players, their representatives and this organization, to his credit.

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Speaker 1: So do I see it getting acrimonious based on past history. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't, But I think we all I think we'd

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Speaker 1: all be kidding ourselves if we said, wow, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter. It kind of matters, like it does Cog

501
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: in the defense, and it does. He'd like to see him,

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: You'd like to see that thing addressed. So all they

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: have to worry about is football, You know what I mean,

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00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean, And I think this

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Speaker 1: it will take. And I'm maybe Jordan Poyer is willing

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Speaker 1: to listen if you sit down with him and say, listen,

507
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: we're tapped out this year. We got no cap and

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00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: we got just enough to operate through the season. But

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. You've been good, you're still under contract

510
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: or your contract is goodness, you'll be first guy on

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Speaker 1: our priority list. When the season's over and we're gonna

512
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Speaker 1: be under the new salary cap in twenty twenty three,

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00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: you'll be our first priority. We promise you we won't

514
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Speaker 1: sign another guy until we take care of you and yours.

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00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: But you gotta wait for us this season. Now that's

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00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: hard to ask. Yeah, I was gonna say, do you

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Speaker 1: think that flies with today's NFL player? Maybe not, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's that That's what you got to convince

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Speaker 1: him of. If you if you can't get it done,

520
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get it done, Um, if you're

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00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna get it done, you've got you're gonna have to do.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna involve more, as we all know, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: involve more than just Jordan Poyer. It's going to involve

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Speaker 1: some guys who are under contract that I have to

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Speaker 1: get some stuff rework because you don't have cap room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna take some some help from some of

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Speaker 1: the players. That's that's what you're looking at. And if

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Speaker 1: you're willing to do that, if you know, okay, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna take more than just Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: and even Terry Pagoula wanting it to happen. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go out and say, okay, you you and

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Speaker 1: you we need you to rework. And that's that. Then

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Speaker 1: it starts to you know, you see the ripple effects. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so easier said than exactly. All right, So prioritize these

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Speaker 1: in order of importance for the bills secondary. Tredevious White's

536
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: cleared for week one. Kayer Elam looks started ready by

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Speaker 1: the end of camp. Jordan Poyer contract issues are settled

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Speaker 1: by the opener. Prioritize those in order of importance, as

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Speaker 1: far as you are concerned for the bills secondary, which

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Speaker 1: ones one? Which ones two? Which one's three? We'll get

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Speaker 1: to your thoughts on the tweet sheet next. Still taking

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Speaker 1: your phone calls though at eight oh three, five fifty

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Speaker 1: back in a moment here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's prioritize him. What do you put first on the

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Speaker 1: list of the following things for the bills secondary in

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Speaker 1: terms of order of importance? A tradevious White is cleared

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Speaker 1: for a week one B. Kayer Elam looks started ready

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Speaker 1: by the end of training camp. See Jordan Poyer's contract

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Speaker 1: issues are settled by the opener. Prioritize those things for

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Speaker 1: the Bills secondary in order of importance as you see it,

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty one, eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty the number to get on board. And

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Speaker 1: we begin today with the tweet sheet, which, as you know,

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Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

556
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Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. They're going to

557
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: be busy this week. Leading us off is Kirk, who

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Speaker 1: goes A C and B so tradevious White cleared, Poyer

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00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: contract issues settled. Kayer Elam looking like a starter is

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Speaker 1: his order of importance. No doubt about the player White is.

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Speaker 1: He says, I believe Bean will work his magic and

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Speaker 1: get Poyer done, and then I think the coaches will

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Speaker 1: have Elam ready for the season. Here's the thing. Mine

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Speaker 1: is the AC and B. I get it, Okay, Mine,

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Speaker 1: I just went the whole thing and I didn't tell

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Speaker 1: what mine is B A. And see here's why be

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Speaker 1: Kayr Elam getting ready for week one is huge because

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Speaker 1: it puts him in a spot to be cornerback one.

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Speaker 1: He'll be that kind of guy. Now A I mean sorry,

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Speaker 1: A which is Turdavious White being ready for week one

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Speaker 1: isn't as important to me because I know Turdavious White

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Speaker 1: is going to rehab and be back as good as

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Speaker 1: ever because guys have done it. Thousand, hundreds of guys

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Speaker 1: have done it in the national football He'd come back

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Speaker 1: from ACLS and played well. Even if he's not ready

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Speaker 1: for week one, Turdavious White is gonna come back and

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00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: be a great player for the team. So having Kayer

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Speaker 1: Elam is more important at the week one than having

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Speaker 1: Turdevious White really be ready because I think Kayer Elam,

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Speaker 1: if he's not ready for week one, something's wrong. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong. If if Turdavius White's not ready for week one,

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Speaker 1: he can still be ready by week four, week six,

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Speaker 1: you know, almost a full calendar year after the injury.

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Speaker 1: If he comes back and he's the guy he was, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gold. But if Kayer Elam's ready week one, all

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Speaker 1: that becomes mood because you got your cornerback one, and

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Speaker 1: you got and you got Dane Jackson, you got the

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Speaker 1: guys who can fill in. You've got a good defense

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Speaker 1: even so, that's for me why I went ABC because

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Speaker 1: to me, White being back and cleared and ready to

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Speaker 1: go week one tops the list for me. The reason

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Speaker 1: why is as much as I want to see Elam

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Speaker 1: ready and looking like a starter, you have a fail

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Speaker 1: safe there in Dane Jackson. So for me, I can

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Speaker 1: stomach Elam maybe taking the first month of the season

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Speaker 1: to maybe slide into the starting lineup. At that point,

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Speaker 1: you at least you have an alternative ab. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing nobody measures up to on this roster at

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Speaker 1: the cornerback position right now, Kayre Elam needs to be

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Speaker 1: a number one corner You drafted him that way. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy. He's got to be as good as tradevious was.

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Speaker 1: That's why you invested that big a draft pick in him.

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Speaker 1: If he can't beat out Dane Jackson and the rest

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Speaker 1: of those guys, that's a reflection on his ceiling and

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00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: where it could be. I need the guy to be limitless,

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Speaker 1: So I need him to be like Tredavius White. I

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: need him to line up week one. Turdavius. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to give some extra time too because of an ACL

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Speaker 1: injury late in the second half of last season. I'm

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Speaker 1: okay to wait on Tradevius. Let him be one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent before he comes back and gets back on the field. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't need him to be back week one to

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Speaker 1: know that he's gonna come back and be good. Elam

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00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: needs to needs to shine. He needs to be a

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Speaker 1: guy because of the draft status that he's had, and

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Speaker 1: his credentials coming in and the guy you know, put

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Speaker 1: the playbook on the plane, all of that stuff. He

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Speaker 1: needs to show me that. Otherwise he's not quite as

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Speaker 1: good as Tradevius, who is He's not you know his

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm willing to wait

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Speaker 1: on Tradevious because it was a serious injury and he

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Speaker 1: can take an ale extra time to come back to

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Speaker 1: make sure he's ready. That's not egregious. He can still

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Speaker 1: come back and play extremely well. It's not a here's

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Speaker 1: a thing. If his ACL is healing stuff. In a

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Speaker 1: perfect world, he may not be ready until October. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: He's still gonna be ready and he's still gonna be

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Speaker 1: Tredevious White. So training camp is just some arbitrary date

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Speaker 1: that comes a little probably a little too soon in

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Speaker 1: his recovery for him to be one hundred percent you know,

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Speaker 1: let's go and it's like nothing to worry about. That

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Speaker 1: is not there for kayre Eliam Elam. Elam needs to

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Speaker 1: come in and play really really well, like he's capable of,

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Speaker 1: and show the show the guy is, show the guy

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Speaker 1: they think he is. They think, I in my estimation,

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Speaker 1: I think they believe Kyer Elam is every bit the

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Speaker 1: player tradevious what White was when he was a rookie

638
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: at this stage, so I think he needs to be

639
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: that that's more important. And I don't want to be

640
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: little into Jordan Poyer stuff because but that the contract

641
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: stuff is secondary to the guys who are actually on

642
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: the field playing. I know, and Jordan may be unhappy,

643
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: and he has a right to be in some circles.

644
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Bills didn't expect him to

645
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: play as good as he played last year. I think

646
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: they did. I think maybe Jordan expected himself to play

647
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: as good as he did last year. Well, you already

648
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: had a deal under that under those expectations, so live

649
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: with it, and then you know it didn't hit him

650
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: up when you're a year deeper into the deal, but

651
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: be that as a mate where they signed him or not.

652
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: The two corners I think are the important thing at

653
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: the second half of this season. I want to see

654
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Tredavious White and Kyer Elam locking it down and I

655
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: mean being special together. That's for me. Now started training camp.

656
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I'll give Trade an extra month and a half if

657
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: he needs it. That's fine, all right, That's fine because

658
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: he is going to come back. I totally believe I

659
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: would just feel a whole lot better if I know

660
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: this that Cat's good to go week one. I know

661
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, I get it. Sure, none of these

662
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: are bad things, No, they're all good, But I think

663
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: I want the first one, right, I think, I think,

664
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: I know. I think Elam is the more critical one

665
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: because he comes in with some expectations in a team

666
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: that they needed a corner to come in just for

667
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: this exact scenario, in case Trey wasn't one hundred percent

668
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: of the start of the season. They need Kayer Elam

669
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: to come in and be a guy. It looks like

670
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Josh on the tweet sheet agrees with you. He goes

671
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: b c A, which is Elam starter, ready payer contract

672
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: issue settled, White, ready to go, Week one. Trey is

673
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: the least of our concerns right now. He says, we

674
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: just need him healthy for the second half of the season.

675
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Payer keeps business professional and we'll play this season out

676
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: like no like one. Whether he has a new contract

677
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: or not. I want to believe that too, but hopefully

678
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: he does. Hopefully he does. It definitely needs to get

679
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: done next year. Just don't rush tray back. I don't

680
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: think you have to worry about them rushing tray back.

681
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: That's just not the way Nate Preski runs his athletic

682
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: training department. So I'm not anticipating that even being a

683
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: remote concern. If anything, they air on the side of

684
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: caution and are conservative in a player's rehab process. The

685
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Poyer thing, I don't know if you can just automatically

686
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: assume that he's just going to suck it up and play.

687
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have brought it up as an issue to

688
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: begin with if he was willing to suck it up

689
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: and play, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yes, it's

690
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: an issue for a reason. Yeah, it's an issue because well,

691
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it would have become an

692
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: issue if it weren't for other guys signing deals that

693
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: dwarfed his. Now, I think that's the first team All

694
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: Pro right, as you can go to him and say, listen,

695
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: we sign this deal, and you know, now these guys,

696
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: these guys are getting paid. Yeah, it's they're getting paid,

697
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: but are getting paid with the next salary cap as well.

698
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: Give us a chance to get you in there. Well yeah,

699
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: but then he comes back and says, well, you did

700
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: it for digs. Yeah, that's right, that's I mean, if

701
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: you're Drew Rosenhouse, isn't that what you're saying a little bit? Yeah,

702
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean you can listen, there's yes, the justification is there,

703
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: and it's been there ever since before my time in

704
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: the National Football League. That guy's playing, he's got he

705
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: got paid that much after I got paid, and he's

706
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: not as good as me. What are you? What are

707
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: we doing here? And it's always been a conundrum for

708
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: the teams because they'll pay a guy and he's got

709
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: a great contract, and then the market goes bank bonkers

710
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: and they don't have any control over that. That's out

711
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: of their control. They signed you in good faith to

712
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: this contract, and they got every reason to believe he's good.

713
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: Agreed and you agreed to it, right, That's the thing.

714
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: But um team, these teams are run differently and they're

715
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: they're structured differently because they've got different great players on

716
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: their team that will them to pay that guy at

717
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: that time, at that point in their budget. We were

718
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: not sitting at that same spot here, and we've got

719
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: different great players. You know, we've got a quarterback that's

720
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: making four hundred plus million. You know, we've got a

721
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: wide receiver that's an elite wide receiver who is the

722
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: lynchpin of the offense all that stuff. So we got

723
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: different problems. And that other team over there that's that

724
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: paid some free agent that So it's it's a conundrum

725
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: that you know, both sides have some really good, really

726
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: good justification for their position. Yeah, and you had to

727
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: believe that the Poyer camp, we're watching closely how things

728
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: unfolded with Bengals franchise player and safety Jesse Bates and

729
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: Bates and the Bengals did not come to a long

730
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: term agreement. So he's going to play on the tag

731
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: this year. Is essentially how that works. You have to

732
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: believe that the Poyer camp was hoping that Bates would

733
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: sign a big fat long term extension to further justify

734
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: his position, because Payer can say, hey, look this guy

735
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: got this much money. He wasn't first team All Pro

736
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I was. So that's the leg that you have to

737
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: believe the Payer camps trying to stand on here. Whether

738
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: it leads to something in the near future, though I

739
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I think the Bills are gonna be hard

740
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: pressed to find a way to get that done. I'm

741
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: not saying they can't, but as you intimated, it's probably

742
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a multilayered approach to make it happen,

743
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: involving other players moving some money, or yeah, they're gonna

744
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: it's a problem. Contract wise, you gotta have some guy's

745
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: recent because they don't have the cash, they don't have

746
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: them the ability to do it even if they wanted to.

747
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: So there's that hurdle. But there's obviously too And I

748
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I've never been in the room, but after

749
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: these deals have been done all the way back to

750
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Mitch Moore and Micah Hyde in the first place and

751
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: their extensions and the Matt Milano thing and the Tarn

752
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Johnson deal and the genevious White deal, and you get

753
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: the feeling that Brandon Bean and the Buffalo Bills always

754
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: keep all their communications above board and are completely honest

755
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and and and give the guy. They're honest with them,

756
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: say hey, here's where we're at. But because they're doing that,

757
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: they the team has always been willing to say, that's

758
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: your choice. You can you do what you want, You

759
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: do what you feel is best for you, and not

760
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: hold a grudge over it. You know, if remember when

761
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson had great year, their best

762
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: year of their careers here in Buffalo, and the team

763
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: allowed them to go to free agency. You know, nine

764
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: and a half sacks from a defensive tackle, it's pretty good.

765
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: And the Bill said, okay, go go get what you

766
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: can get, and they did. So they're totally honest with

767
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: these guys. So there's really not gonna I would doubt

768
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: that there's going to be any acrimony between Jordan Poyer's

769
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: people and the Bills. But there's going to be some

770
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: unpleasant truths and some unpleasant realities that both of them

771
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: have to deal with. And one of them may be

772
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: that Jordan Poyer sits down. We have to take a

773
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back. There is some breaking

774
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: AFC news concerning a running back for the Baltimore Ravens.

775
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Will tell you what that news is when we return

776
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,680
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781
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Speaker 1: Bill's head coach Sean McDermott, good stuff, It is good stuff.

788
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I put mine on just about every day. I don't

789
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: have a lot of coverage Steve up top on the dome,

790
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: so unless I'm wearing a hat, I gotta have it.

791
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: As much as I walked the golf course, you always

792
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: got it. You gotta have it on um I even

793
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: started wearing wide brim hats all off. Sean McDermott. Yeah,

794
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: he's got the big old yeah, covering his whole head

795
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: and neck. Yeah, with his little cape on the back

796
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: of right. You can't. I got people ask me where

797
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: can I get one of these Sean McDermott had. You

798
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: can't get it. I can't find I can't find one.

799
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Maybe you had to custom made. We'll have to ask

800
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: him next time we get a shot. Before we went

801
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: to break, Ian Rappaport of NFL Network on the NFL

802
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: Now program reported that JK. Dobbins, the running back for

803
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, is not expected to be ready for

804
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: week one according to sources. So JK. Dobbins responded almost

805
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: immediately on Twitter himself and said the following, Okay, I'm

806
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: tired of being quiet. Come to me for your source

807
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: rap sheet because I might not even go on pup

808
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: because that's how good my rehab is going and I'm

809
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: damn sure going to be ready for week one. So

810
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised to see the report that Dobbins

811
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: might not be ready for week one. According to Ian Rappaport,

812
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: the reason why is this guy tore his ACL in

813
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: the third preseason game last year. Steve, I mean, we're

814
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: going to be like a full calendar year before. And look,

815
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor. I realized though, that ACL injuries

816
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: can be different. Some can be you know, more catastrophic

817
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: than others, especially if they involve other ligaments in addition

818
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: to the ACL, which can lengthen the rehab willis mcgahey

819
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: for example. Um, but third preseason we were talking last August.

820
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: I mean he's almost a full calendar year out from that. Yeah,

821
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: and he and yeah, he let him know. And here's

822
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: the thing. Who who who did an in Rappaport? Yeah?

823
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Who knows who his source was, where they had in

824
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: the underlying motivation or maybe Rappaport was doing a favor

825
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: for somebody I don't know, or maybe he did talk

826
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: to somebody who said I don't know. And I think

827
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: this too, when you're talking to club officials, NFL team officials,

828
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: or training staff, they never want to say, yeah, our

829
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: boy's gonna be ready. He's, yeah, he's in, he's he's

830
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. In fact, he's probably gonna be better

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Speaker 1: than he was before. They injuried that they're never gonna

832
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: say any of that stuff because if you know, then

833
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: you know they look hord. You know, they can't be

834
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: trusted from then on if they're wrong, and they you

835
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: can't tell that if the guy's gonna have a setback.

836
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: So none of these and unless you talk to the

837
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: guy himself and get him unvarnished opinion and not something

838
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: that is like on the air, like he's saying, well,

839
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: you know we're working, because that's what they'll say, I'm

840
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: working hard and everything's going on schedule, and I'm I'm

841
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: really optimistic about it, unless you get it from a

842
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: guy like like Dobbins who says, yo, I'm doing good.

843
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: That's the only that's the only person you can trust. Now,

844
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: even then they may be talking right, So I don't know,

845
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: but you're right. A full calendar year is usually now

846
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: has been proven to be he should be he should

847
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Speaker 1: be good to go calendar year. Some guys have been

848
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: doing it before that now, but you know, calendar year

849
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: is kind of the thing, so we'll see. We mentioned

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00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: in NFL News and Notes at the top of the

851
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: show that Yahoo Sports NFL reporter Charles Robinson had mentioned

852
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: that the arbitrator in the Deshaun Watson case sue Robinson

853
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: might still be waiting on rendering her decision to give

854
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: the NFL and Watson another shot at a settlement in

855
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the case for his alleged off the field transgressions. Robinson

856
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: just added this additional note if Watson ends up incurring

857
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: the full years suspension that the NFL is seeking either

858
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: from the arbitrator or a league appeal of Robinson's decision.

859
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: Robinson said, he is told that the Watson camp and

860
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: the NFLPA have already made the decision to file a

861
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the league in federal court if he has

862
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: suspended for a year or more. Let me just say this,

863
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: good luck with that. That will not get overturned in

864
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: a court. There's no way. Because they just did a

865
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: new CBA, they took Roger Goodell out of it, and

866
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: if they followed all the rules as the rules state,

867
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: and the arbitrator says no, it's going to be a year, dude,

868
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: that's it. Don't you have no recourse? Doesn't this ring

869
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: of posturing on the Watson camp part, like, we don't

870
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: have a decision yet, we haven't gotten anywhere in settlement talks.

871
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: So if Watson is genuinely concerned he's gonna lose the

872
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. What else? What other card does

873
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: he have to play then? To threaten suing the league

874
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: if he's suspended for a year or more, that's that's

875
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: the last card in his hand, isn't it. It would

876
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: seem to be. That's why I see it as posturing, because,

877
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: as you said, it is, he's probably not gonna get anywhere,

878
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: So maybe just threatens suing them in a federal court.

879
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: Not only does it listen, not only he's not getting anywhere.

880
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Unless here's the thing. It's not just enough that you

881
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: come up and say, hey, I don't like the decision.

882
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: That's irrelevant. It's absolutely irrelevant. If Deshaun Watson that Cleveland

883
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Browns don't like the decision, it means nothing. The only

884
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: thing that matters is that the rules will follow to

885
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: get to that decision. Because the CBA and the NFLP

886
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: who have said, hey, we'll follow lawsuit, they agreed to it.

887
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: They agreed to let it play out exactly like this,

888
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: and if the decision comes down in any way, shape

889
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: or form, it doesn't matter whether they're unhappy with it

890
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: or not. They agreed to the protocols with which it

891
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: was going to be decided. That's it. You don't get

892
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: to say I don't like that decision. Nobody cares. And

893
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: if you go to a court of law, they literally

894
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: will throw it back in your face. Ask Tom Brady

895
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: and Ezekiel Elliott. It happened to them. And in the

896
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: meantime because Roger Goodell was the judge, jury and executioner

897
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady and Ezekiel Elliott, and the court said,

898
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: well that you agreed to let the commissioner do it. Well,

899
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: since then, they've even revamped the rules. So if you

900
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: come back and say, hey, we don't like that decision,

901
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: you agreed to let it. You've changed them in your

902
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: favor to let somebody else do it, and you still

903
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: don't like it, I'm sorry. Yeah, So the court will

904
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: laugh at him and throw them out of the k

905
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: throw them out of the court. They've got nothing to

906
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: stand on legally. So if they file this lawsuit, it's

907
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: a joke. It'll get thrown out. Desperate move. I think

908
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: it just proves it. It is desperate at this point.

909
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: And so but here's the thing, I don't know that

910
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: it's going to be a full year, and well, nobody knows.

911
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: We've heard all the league's asking for a year, and

912
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: that's big ask. It's a big ask. It's almost unprecedented,

913
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: except for, like you said, the gambling stuff. We'll see.

914
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: But if it comes down, when this decision comes down,

915
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna stay. That's my. That's my. It won't be

916
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: overturned on appeal. It won't be will It is going nowhere.

917
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: It is going nowhere unless the league and Deshaun Watson

918
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: will benefit by changing it together. It's yeah, well, okay,

919
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: you do the math there. I don't think they want right.

920
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: We have to take a break. When we come back.

921
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Speaker 1: Second hour of the show, Baton leadoff for us will

922
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: be CBS Sports NFL writer Jeff Kerr, who had some

923
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: interesting right ups on the Bills in particular, especially when

924
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: it came to rank King the best head coach quarterback

925
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: duos in the NFL, as well as the best duos

926
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: on each NFL roster. Jeff Kerr next here on one

927
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio

928
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: at a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field.

929
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

930
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: player for you state the lit Steve a blimp. We're

931
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: not even in the strated here of normalcy, all right?

932
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: Our number two here on one Bills Live, Chris Browns,

933
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and happy to be joined now

934
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: by CBS Sports NFL writer Jeff Kerr, who joins us

935
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: here after putting together a number of lead up stories

936
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: to what will very quickly be full on training camp

937
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: and everybody's NFL fan base as hope, springing eternal. As

938
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: we know, everybody thinks they get a shot at the

939
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: whole thing, most notably here in Buffalo. But Jeff hand

940
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, thanks for having me on.

941
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate. Yeah. So why don't we start here because

942
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: you put together a list of best quarterback head coaching

943
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: duos for twenty twenty two, and the Bills ranked pretty

944
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: high on that list, not surprisingly, but maybe just give

945
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: us your justification for putting them where you did. So.

946
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: I had Josh Allen and Sean McDermott I always, I'll

947
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: say this, the last two years, I've had them pretty high,

948
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: and obviously the rankings are they can be a bit

949
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm technical with them, I'll say that so pretty much

950
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: if you're Tom Brady, if you're not on it because

951
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: your head coach isn't on it. So Tom Bowls and

952
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady never played a game together, so they're omitted.

953
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: But either way, Josh Allen Sean McDermot were going to

954
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: be high on this list based on what they've done

955
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: since being together in twenty eighteen, based on what the

956
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Bills have done, how they rose the Bills to pretty

957
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: much one of the best teams in the NFL. And

958
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: as you guys know, Buffalo is thirteen seconds away from

959
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: going the AFC Championship Game last year. And I'll still

960
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: say they should have been in the AFC Championship Game

961
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: last year and probably the Super Bowl because I think

962
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: they would have beat Cincinnati and all things considered, Josh

963
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: Allen's one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Sean McDermott,

964
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: I know he gets criticized a lot nationally, but he's

965
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: a really good head coach and he's the coach that

966
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: got Buffalo four playoff appearances in five seasons. Growing up,

967
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up with the Bills and Jim Kelly,

968
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: and they make the playoffs after Jim for I think

969
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: once or twice since then. So again it's im as

970
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: full contacts here. Mcdermots, one of the bear defensive head

971
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: coaches in the league, is one of the better head

972
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: coaches in the league. Josh Owen's one of the better

973
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. If they have more postseason success,

974
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be even higher on this list. I think

975
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: I had them fourth, if I'm not mistaken. Who is

976
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: the biggest When you looked at and you looked at

977
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: the big picture of your list, who is the most surprising?

978
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: You think that you got feedback from fan bases saying, well,

979
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: how are these guys on the list? Who who'd either

980
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: get more surprise from or maybe more pushback from. What

981
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: was the coaching head coach quarterback duel? Yeah, probably Cliff

982
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Kyler Murray when they actually understood the rules,

983
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: because I had them tenth. And I mean, look at

984
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals before Kingsbury Murray showed up. Everybody wants to

985
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: point out their failures in the second half of the season,

986
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: but I look at it as Okay, this is probably

987
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: the worst team in football. I mean they weren't. They

988
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: had the number one draft pick when Kyler Murray showed

989
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: up and Kingsbury and they raised their win toll every year,

990
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was one of those people. Last year.

991
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals had a good opportunity to make

992
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I was higher on them than most I

993
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: think national writers, and I did not expect them to

994
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: start seven to oh I. I also didn't expect them

995
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: to fall at the face of the earth toward the

996
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: end of the year last year eater. But you know,

997
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: they did win eleven game. I think it was ten

998
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: or eleven, I can't remember on the top of my head,

999
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: but they did make the playoffs, and you had their

1000
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: playoff appearance was pretty bad, but three years ago, I

1001
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: think any Cardinals fan would have taken that. So again,

1002
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals do win with Coler Murray's on

1003
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: the field and when he's healthy. And this is a

1004
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: fun stat I found with these two the Cardinals had.

1005
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: They were six and oh was underdogs last year, which

1006
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: I did not expect that. I did not expect them

1007
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: to be undefia's underdogs. I'm in the Rams were the

1008
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: only two teams that were on the FIA's underdogs last year,

1009
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: so I thought that that played a big role in

1010
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: that now. Of course that was in the beginning of

1011
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: the year, but I think people were wondering, Hey, where's this,

1012
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Where's Bill Belichick, where's Mac Jones. I'll tell you another one.

1013
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: I got a lot of heat for Dak Prescott and

1014
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: Mike mccarfee. But if you look at the numbers based

1015
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: off last year and based on their resumes, especially Dax,

1016
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: they deserve to be in the top ten. Then it

1017
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: wasn't like there was a huge pick in the choose

1018
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: from here. There were only about fifteen or sixteen head

1019
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: coach quarterback combinations I could go with, compared to about

1020
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four in previous years. Right, speaking

1021
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: of duos, you also did one between the lines with

1022
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: just players, and again the Bills ranked highly, and not surprisingly,

1023
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Josh was a part of that equation too. Oh yeah,

1024
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: so Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs. To me, look since Stefan

1025
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: dis came to Buffalo, he's had the most receptions for

1026
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: any player in their first two seasons with the new

1027
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: team combined, and look at Josh Allen's game. Josh Allen

1028
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: is second in the NFL in total touchdowns, behind only

1029
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Since Stefan Diggs got there. So Josh Allen's

1030
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: in All Pro, Stefan Diggs is in All Pro, and

1031
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: the Bills they won football game. So yeah, that's the

1032
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: best duo on the Bills. Pick a doo and look,

1033
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: you could make arguments for tons of players on the

1034
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Bills here, obviously, like a Hide and j Jordan Poyer

1035
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: come to mind, Tredavious White and whoever. But it's Josh

1036
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: Allen step on things. To me, that's been the cog

1037
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: that makes Buffalo go and when Josh Allen needs to

1038
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: make a play, it's usually been the step on digs.

1039
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Although Gabriel Davis can make the case then he could

1040
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: join that. This year. We've been having a conversation today

1041
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: as well about some of the more the priorities of

1042
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: the Bills might need to have or have happened before

1043
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: training camp. One is Tredavious White being healthy on week one,

1044
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: Kayer Elam their top draft pick, being a starter and

1045
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: a quality guy on day one, and the second one

1046
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: they're the third one is about Jordan Poyer, an interesting

1047
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: because he showed up on one of your list is

1048
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: maybe the most under one of the most underappreciated players

1049
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: on an NFL roster and for the Bills he might be,

1050
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: although he's an All Pro and he's and Bills fans

1051
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: know and love him. I think league wide, I still

1052
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: don't think his name resonates with a lot of fans

1053
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: outside of Buffalo. No, he doesn't. I think really outside

1054
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo only Philadelphia Kay remembers Jordan players because

1055
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: the Eagles drafted him as a seven fround pick back

1056
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. They cut him like two weeks into

1057
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: the season. I think that's the only way they remember

1058
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: him here. But overall, yeah, you're right, I don't think

1059
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Ployer gets a respect. He does is one of

1060
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: the best safeties in football. As a matter of fact,

1061
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael high gets it either. If you

1062
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: look at the top ten safety list that have come

1063
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: out near a player nor Hide made it is that

1064
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: because they're both really good or is that because that

1065
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: they're underappreciated. It might be both. So yeah, I look

1066
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: at it as Jordan Ployer to me, he I think

1067
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: he was the only player in the league last year

1068
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: to have five sacks and three year receptions. I mean,

1069
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. That's the dude with all for you,

1070
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: Dolly there. He can do anything for this Bill secondary. Aten,

1071
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: he can stack a box, he can cover. I love

1072
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: watching Jordan puter replay. I love al Sean McDermot, Leslie

1073
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Fraser have used him. And look when Turdavious White comes back.

1074
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, this second there is gonna be scary to Ron.

1075
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: Johnson's one of the best slock quarterbacks in football. Of

1076
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: last year, I think he only allowed under fifty percent

1077
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: of his passes be caught. It's a really deep secondary

1078
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: and when Elam if Elam does start, Bills fans have

1079
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: a really good reason to be high on the defense,

1080
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: so specifically in the secondary. But you can't go to

1081
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: linebacking for reader. I think that's another underrated unit that

1082
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: maybe everybody in Buffalo knows about, but maybe the NFL

1083
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: should know about come this season. And you already mentioned

1084
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: a guy that Steve and I have a lot of

1085
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: respect for it, but it is still rather unsung despite

1086
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: playing a ton of snaps. But as often as the

1087
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: Bills defense is in nicol is Tarren Johnson, who you

1088
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: had as an under the radar guy to keep an

1089
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: eye on here in this upcoming season. Oh yeah, and

1090
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: look I mentioned him earlier. I think he allowed the

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01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: under fifty percent of passes to be caught. He hasn't

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of their receptions, but it's not like

1093
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball his way either. I think now

1094
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get more opportunity. He's with White back,

1095
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: with elam in there with the secondary, I mean, who

1096
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: do you targeting? So and again, it's hard for slock

1097
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get their receptions in general because they're the ones

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: facing the slants and all that stuff. So I think

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: Johnson is just one of those players. It just seems

1100
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: to me like whenever the Bills need a big play

1101
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: from someone in their secondary, he seems to make it.

1102
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: If I'm correct, guys, you guys can have better memory,

1103
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: and I do. On this. Wasn't he the one who

1104
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: picked up themar Jackson the playoff game last year? Yes? Yeah,

1105
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: so it was it, so yeah, And obviously that was

1106
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: the play that turned that game around. That was Lamar's

1107
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: first red zone in receptions, so yeah. I mean, look,

1108
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: it's there's so many players on the Bills that are

1109
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: really good, and I think that's why this team overall

1110
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: our super Bowl contender, super Bowl favorites, wherever you want

1111
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: to call him. This year, I just think everybody just

1112
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: seems to focus on the quarterback and how good he

1113
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: was and how good his weapons are. But this team

1114
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: did have the number one defense in the league last year.

1115
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: That's what was so shocking to me when everything just

1116
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: kind of fell apart there in that Chiefs game, because

1117
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: when Buffalo took the lead that, you know, not like

1118
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: I had a game or written up, but I was saying,

1119
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: they're called back the eighth the championship game. It's it's

1120
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: still shocking to me that they weren't there, and they

1121
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: weren't playing the Rams in the Super Bowl, right. Some

1122
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: of the other work you've done for CBS Sports you've

1123
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: involved in, Yes, these ranking things are always a lot

1124
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: of fun because it really spars, spurs debate, and I

1125
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: got to be honest with you. So I've got this

1126
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: tech sloop with all the gotten the old guys that

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: I played with, and you had Bruce Smith as the

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Speaker 1: eighth best defensive player of all time. They were outraged

1129
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: that they were outraged he didn't put you know, he

1130
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: didn't put Bruce up, you know, ahead of he had

1131
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Reggie White as the number one guy overall of all time.

1132
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: And it's a great debate because I've long said that

1133
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: I thought ray Lewis was maybe the greatest leader, greatest

1134
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: defensive elevator, and I what I mean is he everybody

1135
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: around him played better when ray Lewis was on the field.

1136
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: And there's all these great names on this list like

1137
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Deacon Jones, Bruce Smith, of course, Lawrence Taylor, Dion Sanders.

1138
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: Give us an idea of how hard it is to

1139
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: sift through the defensive players of all time, including today

1140
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's on the list, to come down to ten

1141
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: names and where you slopped those guys in because positions

1142
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: as well, are hard to interact with each other and

1143
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: hard to rank one above the other. Well, that was

1144
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: the first thing. So when I finalized the rank, I'm like,

1145
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: I have Bruce Smith eighth. I'm sure I got this right,

1146
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll just compare everything here and I'm

1147
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: looking as there were certain guys that were Sam Adultshire,

1148
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith was one of them. He was gonna be

1149
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: in the top ten growing up. Bruce Smith is one

1150
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: of my favorite players to watch and you could put

1151
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: them on the inside, bump on the outside. He just

1152
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: got sacks. You know, him and Reggie White, they just

1153
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: got sacks no matter who they were facing. Game. They mean,

1154
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: I still remember Bruce Smith. I think it was his

1155
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: last game with Buffalo, was the Musical Miracle game, and

1156
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: I remember him just recking the Titans offensive line. I'm like,

1157
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: this guy's thirty six years old and he's still doing

1158
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: this at a high level. So yeah, Bruce Smith, to me,

1159
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: he was. But there are certain players where I was

1160
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: just like, dud, do I include them or not? Like me?

1161
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: And Joe Green was one I omitted, and that was

1162
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: tough to admit. But you know, it's like you said, Steve,

1163
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: we just put all defensive linemen in there. You gotta

1164
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: include linebackers. You gotta include guys in a second there.

1165
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: You can't disrespect Dion Sanders and what he's did, Rob Woodson,

1166
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: what he was able to do. So it's tough, and

1167
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking at myself. Okay, So it's probably Reggie White's,

1168
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: probably Lawrence Taylor, ray Lewis. Let's go from there. And

1169
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: I went by peaked years of dominance and Reggie White

1170
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: hundred twenty four sacs, one hundred and twenty one games.

1171
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: It's just astounding to me. I mean, he has the

1172
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: all time sack record if there isn't a strike in

1173
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, and probably no one's ever gonna catch it.

1174
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: So I had to look at from that first back

1175
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: to of course, I'm from the Philly area, so I

1176
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: got to see a lot of Reggie White over the years.

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: I was too young when he was on the Eagles,

1178
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: but Green Bay he was still really good. Bruce Smith

1179
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: is another one. It's like Bruce Smith, Reggie White, who

1180
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: did you go with? I mean you could put both

1181
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: of them in the top five and I'll argue it though,

1182
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: And really, what the whole point in the article was,

1183
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: where's Aaron Donald rank among these players? And a d

1184
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: is just if you look at what defensive tackles have done,

1185
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: he's rewriting the record books. I mean, he's probably gottend

1186
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: of his career with however, twenty five sacks, all these

1187
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: all pros. Super Bowl, by the way, look late in

1188
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: the postseason this year. I mean you could say recently,

1189
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: buy it's all you want. But Aaron Donald is a really,

1190
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: really good player, and I don't think we're ever gonna

1191
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: see an our defensive tackle like him. The safeties were tough, like,

1192
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: how can you how can you leave off Ronnie Lott,

1193
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: who's arguably the rady A safety ever. And you could

1194
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: argue that read, you could argue Troy palm All, you

1195
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: can argue a bunch of players. But yeah, I mean

1196
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: that's what made this really tough. I think I start

1197
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: with a list of like forty players and it went

1198
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: down to ten, and there were certain guys I couldn't

1199
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: leave off, like Deacon Jones or Smith, chid White, Lawrence Taylor,

1200
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, and I mean, Steve, you played against a

1201
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, You played with one of them.

1202
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: It's it's just incredible when you go back and watch

1203
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: those old nineties games on YouTube or if you're watching now,

1204
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: just a compliment, just highlight films like what these guys

1205
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: were able to do when their prime. And I'd love

1206
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: to see them in today's game because I think their

1207
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: games are translate very well. Jeff, thanks very much for

1208
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate you're giving us some time to

1209
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: catch up with you. Enjoy the season that's coming up.

1210
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be here real soon, Thanks Jeff. Yeah, train

1211
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: camp start today, guys. I can't wait. I'm so ready

1212
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: for who are we nine some days away from from

1213
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: the start of regular season? Cannot wait? Yeah, yeah, thanks again, Jeff.

1214
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. At CBS NFL sports writer Jeff Kerr

1215
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: joining us here is he's been putting together a bunch

1216
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: of different rankings list. I don't know if i'd even

1217
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: want to entertain that. Man, top ten defensive players all time.

1218
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: You get to ten in a hurry, man, Yeah, it's hard.

1219
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Got to cram into the top debts. Yeah, I would

1220
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: have Bruce higher than eighth. Yeah, I would too. Um,

1221
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: but he's got you know, the guy's ahead of him.

1222
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: There's two guys that play defensive line ahead of him, um,

1223
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: Reggie White, and then of course he's got Deacon Jones. Uh.

1224
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's you take your pick. All those guys

1225
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: are unbelievable. UM's just great players. And it's hard. And

1226
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: you got Dion Sanders sprinkled in their ray loos, right,

1227
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: and then you have to and the other thing that

1228
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: makes that Lawrence Taylor, Well that yeah, and that's the

1229
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: thing that I think makes the rankings less difficult because

1230
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna debate that all those guys were great. Hall

1231
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: of fame worthy players. But where do you go next

1232
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: after you say yeah, they're all great, Like, are there

1233
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: different degrees of great? Are you a greater player if

1234
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: your impact on the gamest coaches to change how they

1235
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: schemed the game. Because that's what Lawrence Taylor did. Suddenly

1236
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: left tackles were in demand after he stepped foot on

1237
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: the field right, because nobody had an answer for that

1238
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: guy his first four or five years in the league.

1239
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: They everybody need a left tackles. They had the Giants

1240
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: on their schedule. It's effect. I've heard Joe Gibbs say this,

1241
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: and you know that the ripple effect of great players

1242
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: is this. You know, when Washington started winning Super Bowls

1243
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: and they had this offense that I don't know if

1244
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: anybody remembers, but back in the day, Washington used a

1245
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: lot of tight ends and h backs and fullbacks. They

1246
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: were all packed in there and they would they would

1247
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: get up to the line of scrimmage, they would shift,

1248
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: they would move, they'd move the strength over here, then

1249
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: they'd move it over here. And they did this all

1250
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: before the snap, and they forced the defense to really

1251
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: go through some mental gymnastics to make sure they had

1252
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: all these guys covered because the eligibility and the who

1253
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: was the number two receiver, number three receivers strong side

1254
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: and number two, number one receiver week side, and that

1255
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You had to keep that all straight.

1256
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: And they'd have guys get turned loose in the secondary

1257
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: because of all the shifting and motions that they did

1258
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: before the snap. And they questioned, you know at the

1259
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: end of his career that Joe Gibbs about and he says, listen,

1260
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: we had geniuses. We had to do that. So we'd

1261
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: get somebody on Loris Taylor. Because you move the guy

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Speaker 1: over here, you move all your guys over here, and

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01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Loris goes together side of the

1264
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: formation or he ends up over here. You gotta make

1265
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: sure you got two guys on him. You can't leave

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: your left tackle uncovered because because the first time we

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: lined up, he didn't know who he was. He's a rookie.

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: We snapped the ball and he whacks our quarterback in

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: the back of the head. We're like, whoo, you know

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. So the ripple effect of great

1271
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: players affects the teams they play against a lot. You

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: got to have an answer for those guys. Bruce was

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: one of those guys. They had to have an answer

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Speaker 1: for him. And I remember talking and I've had conversation,

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: multiple convernisations with great Peyton Mann was one of them,

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: and I asked him, I said, you know, because when

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Speaker 1: you start getting ready for these game he goes, yeah,

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching film on these Oh wait a minute, I go,

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: you're watching film on these teams. But it's how hard

1280
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: is it to get film that's actually useful because they're

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: these guys aren't playing you the way they played you know,

1282
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: they're not playing you the way they play Jim Harbaugh

1283
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: or what are you looking at? How can you watch

1284
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: them a team play against Tim Couch and then watch

1285
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: him line up against you? He goes, he goes, yeah,

1286
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, that's the real issue. I can't

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: find film that I can actually get something from because

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: nobody plays those guys like they play me. It's a

1289
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: real issue. Bruce Smith same thing. He'd watch these left tackles.

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: It's great, I know what to do against their left tackle,

1291
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: but what is it going to be a tight end,

1292
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: a wingback, a fullback or a running back just chipping me?

1293
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: Or who's double teaming me. Are they gonna set the

1294
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: tackle wide and deep and bring the guard out? You

1295
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: know how they gonna do it. You never know until

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: the game kicks off and you start. So these guys,

1297
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: great players like that, are going into the game a

1298
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: little bit blind because they ain't nobody like him, and

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: many of them still succeeded anyway. Oh, they were, they were,

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: They were kicking. Can't imagine having to kind of being

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01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: the first offensive coach that had to scheme up away

1302
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: to keep Lawrence Tailor off your quarterback before you even

1303
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: had a chance to require a premier left tackle. Do

1304
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you can't even run up.

1305
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: You couldn't even run away from that guy, Like you

1306
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: couldn't even run plays away. He was chasing because he

1307
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: could chase stuff down from behind. I've said this before.

1308
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: I watched his rookie year was nineteen eighty four and

1309
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: he's playing for the Giants and he was tearing it up.

1310
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: Everybody was talking about him. So they have this and

1311
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: people remember late in the season, they didn't know if

1312
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna play, like he was nicked or something, and

1313
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: he comes out, he's gonna play, He's gonna go his

1314
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: Monday night football and he intercepts that on the five

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01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: yard line, goes down low, picks it off, doesn't break

1316
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: stride ninety five yard touchdown path. He outruns everybody on

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01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 1: the the guys like this outside linebacker out runs everybody

1318
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: on the field down the sidelines. He look fast as it.

1319
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. The next year's nineteen eighty five. I get

1320
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: drafted and the Houston Oilers play the New York Football

1321
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: Giants in the Hall of Fame game, first game of

1322
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: the season, and me looking like a sixth grader, him

1323
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: out there stretching with the team, and I'm like this

1324
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: little skinny towheaded kid, I'm sitting there stretching on it.

1325
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: And here come the Giants out, first guy out of

1326
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: the tunnel. Out. They come out in single file. They

1327
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: all follow each other, you know, it's kind of their thing.

1328
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: They run down the sideline, they run by, and I'm

1329
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: looking at I'm watching Lawrence Taylor's the first guy, and

1330
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm going, I've seen that guy. I don't think I

1331
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: can outrun that guy. And look at him. I'm too

1332
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: little to be out here, Are you kidding me? I

1333
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. He ran by, I'm gonna get my

1334
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: head hand. I couldn't believe it, Like, man, what am

1335
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: I thinking? Why am I? I Am gonna get killed?

1336
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be dead at the end of

1337
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: this game. The whole of fiving game is gonna be

1338
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: my first and last. If that guy, if that guy covered,

1339
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm returning kicks, kick off. If that guy covers kicks,

1340
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: I was doing something. Brown are doing a lot of gymnastics.

1341
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: I was doing no, I was doing soul searching. I

1342
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: was like going, Okay, it's been a good run. I

1343
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: couldn't run. I haven't I haven't snap. I'm taken a

1344
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: snap as a pro. I haven't even taken a snap

1345
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: as a pro. I'm gonna, okay, it's been fun. You

1346
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: signed a pro contract. What happens from here on out,

1347
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: it's just graves gravy. And when somebody asked why it

1348
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: didn't last long or all I gotta say is Lard

1349
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: Taylor came out on a tone. That's that's what did

1350
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: me in. Lawrence Taylor led the Giants out in the

1351
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: field of game. That was it. Oh boy, that that's great.

1352
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he just yeah, So for me, it's always been.

1353
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: He's always been on that list of maybe the greatest

1354
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: defensive players of all time. All right, that was good.

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that it was Steve Tasker's story time and

1356
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: it didn't disappoint. We have to take a break here

1357
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: when we come back, more of your thoughts on the

1358
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: tweet sheet as we are prioritizing the things you want

1359
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 1: to see happen in Buffalo's secondary Trey White being medically

1360
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: cleared week one. Good to go, Kaye Elham looking starter

1361
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: ready by the end of training camp, where Jordan Poyer's

1362
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: contract issued, settled and done with by opening night. You

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: tell us which comes first on your list eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We're back in a flash here on one Bill's Life.

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Speaker 1: merchandise and more. Each donor at presenting Connect Life locations

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Speaker 1: connectlife dot org. And that is for all blood donors

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Speaker 1: in the month of July. At participating Connect Life locations,

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Speaker 1: they will get the Bill's swag bag. It's cinch bag.

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Speaker 1: You know you throw it over your shoulder, throw anything

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Speaker 1: in there. Pretty good deal is to roll up your sleeve.

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01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: Help donate some blood as we are experiencing a blood

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,400
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Speaker 1: please consider donating. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you final

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Speaker 1: half hour the show here, and we want to get

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: back to your thoughts on the tweet sheet as we've

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: been asking you today to prioritize the following in order

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: of importance as you see it. For the Bills secondary

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: a tredevious White's cleared for week one, b Kayer Elam

1383
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: looks start ready by the end of training camp. Or

1384
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: see Jordan Poyer's contract issues are settled by the opener.

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: These are all positive developments, but which is the most important,

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: Which one, in your mind has to happen first to

1387
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: feel good about what's going on in Buffalo's secondary. So

1388
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: we go back to the tweet sheet for more of

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that very subject, and we left off

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Speaker 1: with Alan, who says Poyer first, White, second rookie, third

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: Poyer will be needed badly the first two weeks, and White,

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: while equally needed, needs to be back in shape as

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: soon as possible. If that takes more time, so be it.

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: Elam needs to sit to learn game speed the first

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Who I don't know if I agree

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: with that. Come on, that's a great gray. I don't

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: know if I agree with that part. If he looks ready,

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: he gets on the field, and I'm gonna be honest

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01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: with you, I think he already knows what pro level

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: practice speed is. I expect him to be quick on

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01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: the uptakes, the opposite of Alan. The contract stuff is

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 1: the third most important thing. Because here's the thing you got, kaye.

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: Elam's gotta be a good player. You can't whiff on

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01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: a first rounder, not completely. Yeah, and you need him

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: to be great. Davis is gonna sooner or later to

1406
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: Dave's gonna be on the field for the Bills again.

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be and he's gonna play great. He's gonna

1408
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: feel normal, look normal. He's gonna be the same guy

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: we know and love. If it takes nextra month, who cares?

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: Who seriously, who cares? He's gonna be back and he's

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01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the same player. It may take him in

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: a month, that's fine. It could have been anything that

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: kept him off the field, and a lot of great

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: players missed some time. To Davis did last half of

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: last season, and remember the Bills were pretty good without him.

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: They maintained certainly they you miss him, and you wish

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: he was out there. You feel better about him being

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: out there, But the Bill didn't miss a beat. So

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: that's a given that Turdavious White, to me, is going

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: to come on and play great when that is is

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01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: up to him being one hundred percent. Kayer Elam has

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: got to be a great play. You got a first

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01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: round draft pick invested in him. If he's not Turndavious White,

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01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: who's he gonna be? If he doesn't have that in

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: his ceiling, who's he gonna be. He's got to be

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: a guy that steps in as a as a number

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01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: one draft pick at corner. That guy's on the field

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01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: week one period, he's got to be. He's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: I know that you were saying that the corners are

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: the two most important. You went B A and I

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: went A B. Right. The thing that the main reason

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,959
Speaker 1: why I've got White ahead of Kaier on the priority

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: list is because of the Bill schedule. The first seven weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think we can all agree it's rough that the

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01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: toughest part of Buffalo schedule is the first seven weeks

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: and the opponents they're facing therein it's Rams. Titans is

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01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: less of a coverage issue in light of their deficiencies

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01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: at the position. But then the Dolphins, the Ravens, the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Packers. Those are your first seven games.

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01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: If Trey White is not ready to go week one,

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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned just by the caliber of quarterbacks

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01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: and receiving talent that the Bills are going to be

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01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: going against for seven weeks. I'll say this though, of

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Speaker 1: the first seven weeks, it's that opening game Rams, maybe

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01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and then maybe the Steelers, but for sure

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Packers, those of weeks six and

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Speaker 1: six and eight, the Titans. Getting to worry, big boy Pads.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna play the Titans, you ain't worried about

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01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: your pass coverage, your word cher, you know. Maybe the

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: same for the run defense and the Ravens, same thing. Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, I am I'm not afraid. Yea, I'm

1452
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: not afraid yet of two and I'm willing to listen.

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01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: If you think two is gonna be great and he's

1454
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna take a big step forward. Okay, I'll listen, but

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01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. There's a lot of speed on

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: that field, and the Bills without Treyway, he did not

1457
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: have answers for Tyreek Hill. Well, there ain't no answer

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01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: for Tyreek if he's on there. Whether whether Dardevis is

1459
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: in there or not, Tyreek's a problem now. He's not

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Speaker 1: as much of a problem with Tuah as he was

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Speaker 1: with Pat. Okay, I'll listen to that. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: the lid, the lid isn't put on the field by

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: your safeties. The lids put on the on the defense

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: by two his arm strength. He can't throw it over

1465
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: the top of the pan. You know what I'm saying.

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: You don't need a lid on your defense when the

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01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: guy can't throw it over the edge. So that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: We've said it, and I still believe it. Tyreek can

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Speaker 1: out run to his arm, the ball will have to

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Speaker 1: come out of there so fast. With two a quarterback

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Speaker 1: with Tyreek running down the field, if he is untouched

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Speaker 1: and going deep, let him go because Twa can't catch him.

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Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm I'm exaggerating a lot.

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01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: To me, it's a little bit of hyperbole here, but

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01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: there is an element there that is real. To his

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01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: arm is not as fast as Tyreek's legs. He Tyreek

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01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: can outrun that throw, at least from what we've seen

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: so far. So having a guy to keep up with Tyreek, yeah,

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: you just got to keep up with to his arm,

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta keep up with. So you know

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: that when you got a guy like Josh, here's the thing.

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01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: You get down deep down the field. Josh can get

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: it to the guy deep down the field before the

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01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: safety can break on it and get there. Used to

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01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: see that with guys with really strong arms. Mike Vic

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: had that kind of arm. The safety thought he had

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: the guy covered because by the time the ball would

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: get there, he could cover that ground. And the ball

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: gets there too fast. That's the adjustment you can't make

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Speaker 1: with a guy like Josh. The ball comes in there

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01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: six feet off the ground for thirty five yards and

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: you can't get there. But when you when the ball

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01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: goes up to thirty feet off the ground on that

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01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: same throw, yeah, you got time to get there because

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01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: that's the kind under Yeah, you can run under it.

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: You can't run under a ball that that never gets

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: off the ground, you know, that gets above the right.

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Speaker 1: So I don't. Yeah, I'm I'm so. When we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Bill schedule and what's important, you know, the Tennessee,

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01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game, the Ravens game, and for much part

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01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: the Steelers game. Although I got a lot of we

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: got some love and respect for Mitch Drubisky. I think

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to throw the ball much better

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: than they did a year ago. Tom Tom on the

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01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: tweet sheets, Steve says he would go C B and

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01:22:54,520 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: then A, which is basically payer contract Ela White ready.

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01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: He says, if you don't have White, at least you

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: have power back there. You still have Dane Jackson and

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Cam Lewis at corner, maybe tarn Johnson command the slot

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01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and Elam can rotate in. Are you amazed by how

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01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: many Bills fans are not at least penciling in Elam

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: as a potential starter here. That's the third tweet we've

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: had where they're like, well, he's got to sit and learn.

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01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: Come on, what were you saying about Tredavious White? When

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01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: they picked him seventeenth overall. Well, but let's remember this.

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01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I understand where the fans are coming from. I'm not

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01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: saying they're crazy, because when Tradevius got to this roster

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: and stepped right into the starting lineup, this is a

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01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: much different roster than the one we have now. But

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01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: at the same time, I tend to agree with you.

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01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: You invested a first round draft choice in this kid

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01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: because he's first round caliber talent. First round caliber talent

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: gets on the field and they're rookie yere they should.

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. And I know that's

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01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Maure anticipating, and that's what I'm anticipat. Statement. That's not

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: like no politics of saying, hey, GM's got to justify

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: the pick. That's that's the expectation. You don't get. You

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01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: don't get to the first round of the NFL Draft

1529
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: unless you they can come out with a tape measure

1530
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: and a film clicker and know exactly what you can

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: do athletically. I mean, you gotta stand out, and these

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01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: guys do they do. Tredavia stood out, Josh stood out,

1533
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: Tremaine stood out, Ed Oliver stood out. All those guys there.

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: You can't Dodge how athletic they are, and that's you

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01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: can't you know, you don't coach that up in just

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01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: a couple of months. You know, Bryce on the tweet

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01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: sheets says, Elam is the starter by the end of camp,

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01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: that's my number one. Even if Trey is cleared for

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01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: a week one, he won't be completely up to speed yet.

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: So if Elam looks to go by the start of

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01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: the season, that would be huge for the defense. So

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01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: he's almost thinking, I've got I need Elam because even

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: if Trey is ready, it's going to take him a

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: little while to get up to speed. While I'll listen

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01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: to that to a certain extent, I mean, if Trey

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: is practicing, he gets a little bit of run in

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: a couple of preseason games, I think he's gonna be ready.

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01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows what the speed of this game is. Like,

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01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: how long has it take a guy like that to

1550
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: adjust two series? Like you know what i mean, I'll

1551
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: say this, not weeks. I'll say this. If Tredavious is

1552
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: on the field week one, it's because they have worked

1553
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: him up. They are completely confident that he's going to

1554
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: be ready to go. They are like mentally physically, spiritually, emotionally.

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01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: That guy's gonna be one hundred percent fire and all.

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: They won't put him out there and till he's ready,

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: they just won't. That's the way this club works. Same

1558
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: thing with the rest of these guys. Anybody coming back

1559
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: from an injury, they're gonna take it slow and take

1560
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: it easy, ramp up, focused on on you know that

1561
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: the RAM game. I'm getting ready for that. That's the

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: target date. So we may not see Treds in a

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01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: single preseason game, but that doesn't mean he will be

1564
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: one hundred percent ready on an opening night, which he

1565
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: could be. Break time for us here when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Some of your final thoughts on the tweet sheet. As

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01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: we are prioritizing things we're hoping happen sooner rather than

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01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: later for the Bills Secondary. We're back with more in

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Speaker 1: a moment here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to One

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01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve taskerre here with you on

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: a Monday, as the rookies reported for training camp. Here

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01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: today for the Buffalo Bills, Vets roll in on the

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01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: weekend on Saturday at Saint John Fisher. We're the first

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: practice will take place come Sunday morning. Wanted to get

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01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: some of your final thoughts on the tweet sheet here

1577
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: back over to you, and we're prioritizing today the order

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01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: of importance for the bill secondary with the following things

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01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: tradevious White being fully cleared for week one, Kaye Elam

1580
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: being starter ready by the end of camp, and Jordan

1581
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Poyer's contract issues being settled by the opener. We asked

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01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: you to prioritize those one, two, three and explain why

1583
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: get into a couple of more here before we leave.

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01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Nathan says, I go B, A and C, which is

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01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Elam White Poyer. We need to make sure that he

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01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: is able to step in and start right away in

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01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: case A doesn't happen, because we know Dane Jackson can

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: fill in decently for now, and C is least because

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01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: I think both sides want a deal and Poyer is

1590
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: showed up to everything so far and is bought in.

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: He did show up to mandatory minicamp. He did not

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01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: attend voluntary OTAs I volunteer not to attend too. But yeah,

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: that's right. If it's a problem, it's a problem, but

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01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: there hasn't been one yet, no indication, but he very

1595
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: well could. Um, And it's I guess it comes down

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: to this, would you would you rather bust on a

1597
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: first round pick in Kyer Elam, have Tredavious White out

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01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: for a significant part of the season, or be without

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer and worst case scenario in all three of

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01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: those situations. Yeah, And it's if if any of the

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01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: worst happens, which is the worst? I think maybe the

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: absence of Poyer or the delayed return of Trdavious White.

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01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I think Poorier's out would probably be worse than Taous

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01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: White being out for a little longer than maybe we thought.

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01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: And maybe the only reason we think that way is

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: because of what we witnessed last season at the end

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01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: of the year after Trey White did leave the lineup. Yeah,

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01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: they were number one defense. They weren't severely Now missing

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: on a camp on a number one that's set you back, right,

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01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see, Um, if Kayer Elam comes through, you

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: don't miss tradevious so much anyway, And you know it's

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 1: a but it's a good, good question. Thanks for taking

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01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: part in that, everybody. Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow. At

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01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: one as we'll have something else for you to debate about.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you that