WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Backup Plan? 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.800 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:16.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:21.520 Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:26.440 the Star in Frisco, flowing to the gold Line Saw 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:35.160 and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.360 and Kyle Yeoman's a little bit earlier than expected for 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.199 everybody here on a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys here 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.240 from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.720 As we've got plenty to break down. Just one more 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.320 preseason game on the docket for the twenty twenty one 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.680 Dallas Cowboys. We've got three in the books. All three 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.400 have been losses, and we're gonna talk about that coming 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.520 up here just a couple of moments. So glad you're 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.760 with us on Talking Cowboys alongside professional football analysts, heck 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.240 My Harrison, we've got resident Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.480 back in, the Great Rob Phillips, Cowboys insider, I'm Kyle 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.040 Yeoman's and gentlemen, well let's go. Let's take a step 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.320 back for a little bit. The Great Rob he Oh, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.040 of course, that's the Great let's take a step back. You. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:32.360 Oh hey, I'm sorry your allergies acted up to you. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.720 I had the double back crop. I thought my allergies 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.880 were tripping you double back. It was a little dusty, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.360 it was a little yeah. Yeah, the Heppo filter not 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.440 working at great in my house apparently. No, you did 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.760 a great job right out with we're of course talking 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.920 about the Darren Woodson documentary that we alluded to on Thursday, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.880 A Path to Safety the Deep Blue. Rob Phillips was 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.240 a huge hand and putting that together. Great shout out 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.640 to Mats as well as a fantastic job. Darren loved it, right, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.600 I mean that's what he said to you, Yeah, he said, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.640 he told Nick he really enjoyed it. Um. You know, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.679 Keith Tucker, his best friend who's featured that part, reached out. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.760 I think he enjoyed it. So that's that's always important. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.560 You want to make sure that Isaiah and I were 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.639 just talking. You don't want to disrespect anybody, you want 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.320 to misrepresent anybody's life. That's that's something you really take seriously. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.440 So I'm glad. I hope people watch it, hope people 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.280 enjoyed it. Up there. Yeah, if you if you missed 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.000 it on Saturday. You can go watch it right now 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.600 on demand. It's on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You can 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.560 go find it there in the video section. It's also 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:41.240 on YouTube correct, Yeah, on YouTube, Facebook, the website, anywhere 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:42.800 you want to go check it out. So plenty of 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.880 plenty of places. The Cowboys now app as well, which 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.200 you can download on your fire, your Broku. You can 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.000 watch it on the TV screen like you would any 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.360 other documentary, and it really is worth your time. It 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.880 is fantastic, very well done. Again Rob Phillips on that 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.760 and everybody that was involved with the Path to Safety. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.280 Got a couple more I think one more documentary that's 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.080 coming out in the next week or two weeks or so. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.840 Two more. Two more. Yeah, So there's one over Draft Stories. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.000 It's called War Stories and it's about like inside Draft News. Yeah, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.399 really really cool. I got this very cool sneak peek 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.040 at that trailer. Man that's it's the guy that's really cool. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.680 That is sick. Yeah, I heard it was and sultry. Actually, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.760 who who might that be? I don't know, I don't know. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.320 Just check it out in two weeks. Sound good, We're 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.040 gonna have to get it We're in a box and 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.639 like two weeks from the from the podcast, you give 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.200 Heckma mad props for what his voice sounds like on 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.440 the documentary. Um, what's the other one that's coming out? 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.640 Jesse Holly, Right, Yeah, which some really cool that's really cool, 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.640 cool life and career story for him too, sounds really cool. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.160 Two already out, we had The Path to Safety and 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.280 then also the Drew Pearson documentary, which is such awesome, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.960 super fantastic, So lots to catch up on. If you 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.560 want to binge Dallas Cowboys, you can watch Talking Cowboys. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.240 You can see our interview with Darren Woodson that was 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.720 last Thursday. But let's talk about going on what we 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.920 saw binge watching wise on Saturday, and that was the 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.520 Cowboys and the Houston Texans. Is the Cowboys fall twenty 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:18.400 to fourteen? There? Now oh and three? In the preseason, Rob, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.560 you would like to get a couple of wins, you 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.240 really would just to kind of get the ball rolling. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.279 Is there any concern about just, you know, the wheels 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.599 falling off, even though it's not even the preseason, not 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.640 really wheels falling off. That's a little dramatic, that's doomsday sounding, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.960 but they haven't won a preseason game. Yeah, I mean, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.240 is there any worry about what's going on right now? No? No, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.920 not for me. I mean, Dak hasn't played. He hasn't 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.359 he hasn't had a chance to get in there and 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.960 give him a touchdown drive. You would hope Cooper Rush 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.039 now leads the quarterbacks in terms of touchdown passes in 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.039 preseason with two on Saturday Night. And we had a 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.600 discussion about the backup quarterback situation the other day, and 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.160 I think, and I brought it up to I mean, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.200 to me, there's still some questions on the offense in 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.320 terms of your backup quarterback, who's your backup quarterback, who's 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.560 your swing tackle, who's your backup center. I don't know 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.320 if those have been fully all fully addressed. I mean, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.479 I think your backup center is probably Connor Williams and 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.800 you're gonna have to live with some growing pains there. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.000 But those other two positions, I don't know what the 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.600 answer is yet. And backup quarterback got more interesting coming 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.840 out of Saturday Night. Definitely did Garrick Hilbert win three 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.400 of five? He saw what one? Two series? I guess 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.279 two series series? My goodness, Yeah, I mean he was 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.240 in there quick. Is that? Is that something to take 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.039 note in Isaiah absolutely, especially in a quote unquote dress rehearsing, Yeah, 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.320 he got snatched out the game. He's gonna say it 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.719 just as about as blatantly as we can say. I think, so, yeah, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.919 he got snatched because he got hook That was not 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.720 that was that straight saying man, you know, a night 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.440 at the Apolo, get off the stage because you're messing 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.520 up um, and we're not about to sting up this 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.800 whole game. So there's there's a thing to it. You know, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.080 you kind of alluded to it very beginning there. You know, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.760 things were kind of getting off the rails there for 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.920 a second. It was ugly, and you know in that 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.920 game three in the preseason, the most important preseason game. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.680 I think we talked about that last week as well. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.080 So you can't afford to let this thing get off 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.800 the rails in the preseason game early. You just can't 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.240 because then you're gonna have four quarters of just bad football. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.320 So they got them about it there relatively quickly, and 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:21.840 they got it back on the rails when rush came 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.520 in a game. Mike McCarthy said he was asked that question, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.560 did you take him out sooner than you planned? And 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.760 he said, we wanted to balance out the reps with 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.320 Cooper Rush. So that's that's the head coaches. But the 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.800 thing about it is, to your point, it's like, has 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.960 this felt like a real backup competition within the roster 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.159 until Saturday night? Not not so much. I feel like 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.320 it's more Garrett Gilbert competing against anybody else that might 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.520 come available. And you know, and Cooper Rush has played 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.960 pretty well, but every first team rep has gone to 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.919 Garrett Gilbert. Absolutely, yeah, there really hasn't been any fluctuation. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.359 Do you guys feel that that change this week? I 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.360 think so. I think I think it definitely that you 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.760 think so. Yeah. I really felt bad for Garrett Gilbert, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.640 like you said, getting the hook, and I think it 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.680 was a sack that did it for him, and he 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.320 was patting that ball and just didn't have any pocket awareness. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.440 And absolutely absolutely, And you've also pointed out, you know, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.840 the way that the receivers interact with him and knowing 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.920 whether the ball is gonna get completed or not. But 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.000 I thought that when Cooper, when Rush came in, things 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.680 like you said, gout back on the rails and you 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.360 saw the offense move more efficiently. I was really happy 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.680 to see Kelly Moore's offense work and click the way 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.679 that it did. Ralston guys like that at the fullback. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.480 I love this guy. He's gonna be my favorite. I'm 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.520 telling you right now if he makes the team. I 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.600 just love what they bringing the fullback into play. It's 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.520 like a lost art, right. But the things that we've 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.600 been talking about, red zone efficiency and things like that, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.080 we saw Kelly Moore put together a few drives and 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.840 that was all Rush doing that. So and I I 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.600 wrote about it during the OTA's about this position. Was 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.760 Garrett Gilbert's to lou Well, if you're doing the underwear 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.800 Olympics and you don't have to worry about pressure and 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.480 you can just let that thing rip. He did a 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.320 really good job of that. But the clock is just 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.120 not going off in his head. He's patting the ball 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.400 and to that point, heck, some of the things that 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.160 Garrett Gilbert was struggling with right in terms of holding 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.960 onto the ball, in terms of getting to his reads 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.320 and making quick decisions, Rush came in and had I mean, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.840 it was a direct comparison. Now he had the same 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.560 situations where nobody was open. There was a quote unquote coverage, sacks, sacks, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.760 and Rush took off right, got a first down, slid, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.640 get whatever the artists you can pop up and get 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.800 back in the huddle, right, getting to your first second, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.000 third read sometimes right, making those quick decisions whenever you know, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.160 I said, of throwing the ball back and across coverage, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.720 what did Rush do? He came in and threw the 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.520 ball away right. He had those opportunities to make those 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.120 same mistakes that Gilbert was making. Now, whether it had 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.840 been he had an opportunity to see that right live 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.520 and in in action to say, when I get him opportunity, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.640 I'm not going to do the same thing, or he 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.560 just naturally was making better decisions. Either way, instinctively, he 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.280 was doing better than Gilbert was. And I think that 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.640 was a direct comparison from the time that Gilbert left 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.240 the games the time Rush came in. What is that? 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.640 What is the hesitancy that you're seeing with Gilbert not 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.680 trusting what he's saying, because you know in the in 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.200 the NFL, those windows are very small, and most quarterbacks 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.600 are throwing guys open, waiting for them to be If 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.000 there's an anticipation. So yeah, so what you're touching base 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.760 on right now is a quarterback. You can't wait in 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.120 this league. You can't wait till somebody is actually open. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.199 You can't wait Heckman Harrison's running around, He's running a 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.319 ten yard out route. I can't wait for Heckma to 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.120 put his right foot in the ground and plan to 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.880 go open up to the left side, and then wait 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.760 from him to turn his head look at me, show 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.559 his hands and say hey, I want the ball, because 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.120 that when by the time I release the ball to 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.199 the time and gets in your hands, that window has closed. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.240 So what am I doing. I am anticipating that you're 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.240 going to be open. I see your leverage on the 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.040 on the defensive back or whatever it may be, and 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.679 I know that you're going to be open. And I 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.160 trust that because we have that symmetry where I'm gonna 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.160 release the ball, you come out, your break ball is 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.600 going to be there on time. Boom. That's not happening 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.600 with Gary Gilbert. He's questioning that, whether that's his relationship 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.120 with the receivers, whether that's a timing thing, or whether 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.880 he's just waiting for literally somebody just to come wide open. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.520 Either way, it's not working out for him, and and 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.760 that's okay because that's what happens in a preseason. However, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.920 you have to turn it up and say, guess what, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.560 I can't throw the ball right now, run on that ball. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.400 And where he got strip sacked right there, he had 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.719 fifteen twenty yards of open space in front of him. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.000 I don't care if you're Tom Brady, go run with them, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.920 gimpy legs or whatever you got. And then they left 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.160 in the tank, So go get you some yards, right 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.480 he go get you some yards. So that's all the 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.439 coaches want to see is make you see you make 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.360 good informed decisions. It doesn't matter if it's a big play, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.839 move the chains. That has happened a couple of times 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.319 in the red zone in the first couple of games 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.640 as well. And usually what you just said, like you 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.640 see it with younger quarterbacks, and he hasn't played a 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.280 lot in the NFL, but he's been around a while. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.840 I think you see it with the Nucci where you 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.160 know he's not he's not trusting what he sees fast enough. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.720 And that's normal for a young quarterback. But and obviously 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.280 he struggling the game with every interceptions and their polar opposites, right, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.720 So Gary Gilbert holds the ball forever and the Nucci 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.000 just throws it up right sometimes, so trying to make something. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.640 He's just trying to make something happen. So they're they're 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.600 polar opposites as well. So it's kind of the economy 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.480 of these guys. It's kind of crazy because you got 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.280 the two extremes and you got Russia. He kind of 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.040 comes in the middle and just like, that's what you're 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.320 doing wrong, that's what you're doing around. Okay, I'm gonna 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.880 playing in the middle right in position myself strategically to 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.720 see how this thing shakes down. I thought he looked 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.960 Cooper Rush looked like a guy that's been in Kellen 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.959 Moore system for four years. He had stopped with the Giants. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.480 But other than that, he's he just looks like he's 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.200 got command of the systems comfort. A fan actually tweeted 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.640 at me a couple of weeks ago or a couple 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.400 of days ago, and said, if you put if you 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.440 combine Cooper Rush's skill set with what the Nucci does, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.880 well like that might be your number two quarterback because 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.600 Ducie's got the arm talent, you know, but Cooper seems 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.160 maybe most comfortable with all the three guys with the offense. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.439 But we'll see. And they responded to him, but has 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.800 has your stance changed on the backup quarterback being on 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.720 this ross? No, okay, no backup quarterbacks in my eyes 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.720 is still not on his rost. And I still think 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.480 that the Cowboys need to And I know, I mean, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.079 I don't want get it put me in the principals suce. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.760 I'm not a GM. However, my suggestion would be, you're 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.640 gonna have to make a big trade. You're going to 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.080 have to make a big trade this week before before 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.680 the preseason game. I don't know that the Cowboys know 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.400 this for sure. I don't think they do for certain. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.400 I mean, Mike was asked after the game if he 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.199 wrote about this, has he seen enough evidence that Gilbert 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.800 or Rush will be the number two guy? Clarence Hill 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.760 asked that question. He said, well, we have one more 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.920 week and we're gonna need it. That's why that was 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.160 his answer. So, I mean, look, I mean, the Cowboys 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.560 have made no secret to you guys point like they're 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.520 going to keep their options open. They worked out two 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.520 guys in the offseason. They're not married to the backup 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.840 quarterback situation. The problem is who's out there? What can 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.400 you fit under the cap? All that stuff? But Pete, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.079 when you paid account of money that you paid a 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.520 number one guy, you don't want to hear anything about 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.520 Well here we are talking about the number two, but 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.280 you just the number one guy. Yeah, but you have 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.360 you got to prepare yourself for the worst case scenario 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.720 because last year was the worst case scenario. So if 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.000 you go into this year again underneath those same Now, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.120 last year was a dog on F five tornado. Everything happened. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.400 Not only was in the bad storm, but the whole 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.400 dog on town got wiped out. Right. But that's the 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.559 thing is, if it wasn't a tornado, if it wasn't 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.880 everything in front of the quarterback got wiped out along 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.840 with the corn, you would have felt okay with Andy 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.719 Dalton at the helm was Yes, every I think everybody did. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.000 But everything went wrong about Everythinge was not a good 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.040 look regardless. I kind of want to go back to 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.720 Cooper Rush. You want to add something real quick? No, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.040 I was thinking about this the other day. Go ahead, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.200 I'll save it. It's kind of okay, It's a little winding. Okay, 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.120 we'll save it for a second, but I want to 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.400 go back to Cooper Rush because we're talking about the confidence, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.000 the comfortableness of what he was able to do in 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.720 Calamore's offense. I've seen it, I think over the last 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.880 couple of weeks, and Rob you could probably attest to 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.120 this that has grown exponentially and visibly from Cooper Rush 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.120 ever since day one at Oxnard until this point. I mean, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.360 you have seen the confidence continue to grow because he 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.040 came in did look great at the beginning, and now 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.680 he has since then kind of taken every step along 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.480 the way to get back to where he was I 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.839 think before he even went before he was not on 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.160 the roster anymore. Do you see that same kind of 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.120 deal with Cooper Rush and the confidence that's continuing to grow. Yeah. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.959 And I asked him after the game about his comfort 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.400 level in Kellen's offense. He definitely has that. And the 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.599 other thing too, is I forgot that he had a 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.080 couple things injury wise that he's been dealing with since 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.040 they got to Oxnard. He had up some back spasms 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.080 early and he had a shoulder thing that came out 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.920 of the Canton game. So he's been a little banged up, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.560 and maybe it's a matter of being healthy, you know, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.760 because he let me say this, I will say, Garrett Gilbert, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.880 over the last month and you've seen it, you're out there, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.120 he's had some good practices, he's done well, he's had 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.160 some good stretches where he's played well. And that number 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.680 one offense deal. But is it enough? You know, it 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.080 is enough for them to stop looking. Cooper Rush looked 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.160 like the number two quarterback on Saturday Night based on production. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.080 Cooper Rush played like someone that knew his job was 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.120 on the line, you know. I mean, these guys are 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.840 not blind to the fact that if we don't get 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.960 this done, this game or the nixt I don't put 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.800 enough on tape, I may not be here. The Cowboys are, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.200 They're gonna get this number two guy with or without me. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.520 I would rather it be with And he played like that. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.560 He had the offense moving like that. He I mean, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.440 and the one thing that he didn't do didn't turn 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.640 over the ball, didn't make costly mistakes. And that's the 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.520 thing from an organizational standpoint that you want to see 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.320 just don't lose it for us. I mean, we want 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:24.280 you to make plays, but and be the proverbial bus driver? 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.040 Can you do that? If we have our full litany 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.640 of guys here, can you bust drive us to a victory? 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.800 Because that's all you want from your number two quarterbacks? 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.880 If you guys were wearing your GM hats right now, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.400 what move would you do? Would you stay with one 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:38.880 of these guys or are you going out and trying 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.520 to make a big trade? I would trade. I think 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.800 I'm on your boat from what I think you're definitely 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.560 looking around to see what you can do to potentially upgrade. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.240 I think you have to do that. The closer you 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.160 get to these last cuts, you're starting to see more 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.560 teams need quarterbacks. Sure, so like you're you're your window 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.760 of opportunity as we talking about wind those right, window 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.280 opportunity is really dwindling right in terms of the level 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.080 of competition that you're gonna have for those remaining quarterbacks, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.720 there's only a handful of them out there that are 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.320 probably realistically attainable. What are you going to do? That's 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.000 the part that scares me though, because if indeed there 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.800 is a higher price or excuse me, a higher need 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.600 on the quarterbacks, there will be a higher price. You're 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.720 gonna see premiums paid out for backup quarterbacks because there 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.200 are teams that have stashed them. There are teams with 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.480 multiple backup quarterbacks. I mean, look at the Bills, look 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.720 at the Bears. I mean there are multiple teams that 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.560 could they could say, all right, come on, give me 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.760 your best offer. Let's figure this out. I don't know 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.080 how much the Cowboys would have to offer without giving 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.880 up some kind of comfortable level elsewhere. That's my biggest 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.120 It comes backups are not at a premium. And when 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.520 you talk about a backup quarterback is though. But you 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.280 talk about teams like Chicago, let's say San Francisco, they 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.480 have two young quarterbacks that are kind of making headway 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.680 in the preseason. Do you it is the future now 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.920 for those teams? And you start and I'm not gonna 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.800 say any names and get in trouble, but I'm just saying, like, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:06.760 there's those situations where teams like the Cowboys, would you know, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.680 go and say, look, we want to present this trade 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.920 for you're a guy vice versa. Are those teams knowing 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.640 that you're in a desperate situation? Are they hoarding those 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.280 because we want to bleed you as dry. The answer, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.959 the answer is yes, And I think the perfect scenario 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.400 for the Cowboys obviously is analyzing their roster and seeing 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.000 where are we deepest? Right, where are we deepest? And 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.960 hopefully we're we're deepest. That's the same area that that 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.680 this team that has backup. I think that question, I 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.680 think we think. I think we have the most competition 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.040 at the defensive back right now. I think that's where 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.200 it runs to mean you're deepest though in terms of 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.520 competition level, Yes, because I think we have the most 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.240 talented in terms of depth. Right, if we have one 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.879 one first, bring our second stream go down, do we 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.560 still have guys that we feel we can play with? 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.120 An answer is yes. You don't have that top guy, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.040 that top as, you don't have a you don't have 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.440 a bunch of absolutely right, you don't have all pro whatever. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.720 But if you have, you have some very competitive guys 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.520 that'll go three D easily. Right. So I think you're 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.640 hoping that one of those teams that have a three 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.160 deep quarterback situation needs that same position that you're deep 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.719 in because you're now in a position to deal one 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.080 of those guys to fit their need while they fit 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.360 your need and that takes them the advantage of way. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.960 The one thing I will say about this, and I'll 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.560 pass it to you, Rob, is if you're trying to 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.040 go get let's let's just throw Andy Dalton. I know 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.440 I can't even say specific games. Let's just say you're 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.120 gonna go try and get a quarterback. You're not gonna 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:38.920 trade a Jordan Lewis or Anthony Brown for a starting 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.680 I guess depend backup quarterback depends on where your number 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.200 one is, and we don't know that. We don't know 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.960 the extent of that. If it is, well a month thing, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.680 then you that's what you said, Well you're talking about 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.240 about this before. Then you see a drastic move like that, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.280 and that'll tell you everything you need to know. And 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.239 they've done that. I mean they've thrown draft picks at 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.879