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Speaker 3: Welcome to Jenkis and Jones on the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday, February ninth, and we've got a very

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Speaker 3: special trade deadline episode. But more importantly, we are joined

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Speaker 3: by longtime homie friend of the pod, Jazmine Watage. Jazz.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for you.

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Speaker 1: For having me. I'm super excited.

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Speaker 3: Finally, Yeah, she put she pressed shout when she got on.

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Speaker 3: She said she thought maybe she didn't have it. You know,

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Speaker 3: she couldn't believe all the people we had on here.

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Speaker 2: Yet we are, Yeah, we are big fans of the Jazz.

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Speaker 2: It's long overdue.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let me read you a da of

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Speaker 3: the DM exchange that I had with Jazz when we

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Speaker 3: be a coping episode for Lakers fans, is what this shit.

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Speaker 4: Is going to be.

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Speaker 3: On January thirteenth, I said, hey, you know, do you

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Speaker 3: want to come on and talk Lakers implosions slash trade

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Speaker 3: after the deadline, and she said that's crazy. Also crazy

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Speaker 3: the word implosion is used. But whatever. And then a

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Speaker 3: month later, I don't know if maybe implosions strong, but

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Speaker 3: the lack of a trade I feel a little slapped

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Speaker 3: saying last night after the Kobe statue unveiling, and then

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Speaker 3: they lose to the Nuggets, he gives a plus for

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Speaker 3: how the team played, like, let's just be crazy, Lakers fans.

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Speaker 3: The expectation is not that you're a hard out to

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Speaker 3: for the Lakers. So where are you as a Lakers

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, let's make the plan hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 1: because like the lack of the trade really kind of

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Speaker 1: threw me off there. But I'm you know, I'm the

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Speaker 1: Lulu much like yourself.

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Speaker 2: He look, I think that that mama mentality stuff gets

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Speaker 2: night to lean into the mama mentality shit, it's Kobe

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Speaker 2: that does not fly that night, Bro, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean a plus for effort, like a plus you lost.

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Speaker 5: That eight plus is insane in a fucking loss, you

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Speaker 4: That's crazy as hell? And I mean what really makes

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Speaker 5: As like Bron was publicly more than I've ever seen

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Speaker 5: We ain't you know what I'm saying, We ain't going

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I'm yeah, that's that's that's where we're at, right,

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what you mean. I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: Every night I feel like like Quincy's mom in Love

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Speaker 3: No, maybe we're gonna get Spence and it's gonna everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Need me, you know what I mean, don't be and

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Speaker 5: I'll give you five fouls at least.

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Speaker 1: That was a time when I thought Remond Sessions was

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Speaker 4: So I remember those days.

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Speaker 3: You're really in the trenches with me, and that's why

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be a motivated Spence now, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like he wants to come home. This isn't

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Speaker 5: we need for Bron to get the best out of Bron.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, a forty year old Bron.

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Speaker 4: You feel me.

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Speaker 1: So even if we make it to the playoffs, we're

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, I'm saying we need a strong head

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Speaker 1: now that is off the market, so we don't have

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Speaker 3: Looking someone else jumped on that landline for us.

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Speaker 5: SEEZ, we were talking about that. It's not gonna make

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Speaker 4: You know, he was bored, Like that's how bad that

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Speaker 3: You don't think Pap BEV is gonna change the culture?

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Speaker 4: Do you see the pap BAV.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I have to have to get my ship

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Speaker 2: I just bro, life came so fast that dame, Like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't keep getting away with us. I don't.

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Speaker 4: Four years. Well, you said they got him on the book,

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Speaker 4: So twenty twenty four years, Bro, four fucking years, that's wild.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, God bless him. You know, maybe Pat

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Speaker 2: That was for sure a nigga helped move from Doc

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Speaker 2: rivers there like he's like, bro, somebody anybody please? They

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Speaker 4: Maybe we're thinking about it wrong. That hate had him

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Speaker 3: Well, if that's true, then with the Lakers coaching situation,

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Speaker 7: Let me I go into it.

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Speaker 4: Go into it.

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Speaker 3: No, no, go into it. Let's get into it. Let's

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Speaker 1: And then the lineups they don't work. These are the

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Speaker 3: You know, you still have faith. I respect that someone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so y'all are happy by it. I'm glad, but

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Speaker 3: Just think one thing that's been hard for me, Jazz,

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Speaker 3: I still love Kobe, yes, but like to me, I'm

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel you.

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Speaker 7: I'm a Lake fan.

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Speaker 1: I was born in Cali, raised in Atlanta, So I

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Speaker 1: always that wasn't even like I wasn't trying to like

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Speaker 1: It just so happened that my favorite player ended up

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Speaker 1: you know we had to watch like Robert Socker and

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Speaker 1: is going crazy. Yeah, I just see I see it

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Speaker 1: I don't know because I never rooted for it. Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just like rollover from the Bron

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Speaker 4: Right, like like we are fighting and we love Kobe

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how you can be a

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Speaker 3: Right, I think, But I think there was there was

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Speaker 3: he's the best player of this era and he ultimately

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Speaker 3: there was that feeling like and so then when he

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Speaker 3: I saw a lot of Lakers fans really flip their

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Speaker 3: It's not pretty when it ends with Broun. And I

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Speaker 3: like we're the fucking Cleveland Cavaliers tweeted our glass emoji

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see Lebron as like a troll. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I saw the next towel. I'm like, that's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be in him. But even if it don't end

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Speaker 1: with like the Lakers, I'm cool with that. Like I

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Speaker 5: I don't feel that hate though. I don't feel like

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Speaker 5: Like maybe I'm not in the churches a Twitter like

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Speaker 3: Between it's it's been a crazy couple of weeks. Brother, Okay, damn,

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Speaker 3: Jazz is the same way as me, Like you just

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Speaker 3: have friends who's just like the Filipino homie who loves

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. The ship that people are tweeting like the

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Speaker 4: It keep it a b if Bron left I probably stay.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, man, you know the.

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Speaker 3: Yellow looks too good on you.

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Speaker 4: Bro's I got the I got about the shorts.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you'll probably stay?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 7: Where would I just.

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Speaker 4: I'll just be a Lakers fan. I'm not. I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 5: I was a bron fan. I was just almost been

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Speaker 7: Bron? I didn't know about.

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Speaker 4: We're here before that. I'm from Saint Louis. We got

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Speaker 4: no basketball team. I just want people I like And

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, so you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's about I've enjoyed my experience. I'm living here, got

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Speaker 2: You know you no, no, no, no. I feel like

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be dramatic, but the

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Speaker 1: Clippers cannot win a championship this here being at last

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Speaker 1: We can't have that. They can't be like yeah, so

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Speaker 3: People understand if you're not in southern California, Like if

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Speaker 3: you just see highlights, you're like, oh, wow, the Clippers

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Speaker 3: Like Kawhi Leonard gets booed at Dodgers games, like you

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Speaker 3: Clippers sponsored, which was very like They're done a lot

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00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 3: of good community work and everything. They're rebuilding courts and stuff.

438
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 3: These kids, you know, they put a Clippers level on

439
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: the jersey. The kids didn't want to wear the jerseys.

440
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: The kids are asking asking us as their coaches that

441
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 3: ask the YMCA, could we put something other than Clippers

442
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: jerseys on even though they're free and they're sponsoring our league.

443
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't want to wear these, Like Vinnie

444
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want to wear a Clippers jersey.

445
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: They would be the only team in NBA history to

446
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: get boom during their championship parade.

447
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 8: Bro and Laker fans might for real show up to

448
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 8: get their issue off at the Clippers championship just doing

449
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 8: Don Rickles jokes down fucking figure just.

450
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: Like wow, oh god, I don't I don't see it

451
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: for him.

452
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: I don't see I don't think.

453
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: We seen him in the playoffs, though we seen him

454
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: in the playoffs consistently. Not health was the issue for

455
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 5: a couple of them, but also we've seen them be

456
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 5: healthy and just not win as well, you know what

457
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 5: I mean. The twenty twenty season, like bro, they were

458
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 5: the team in the fucking league and they got swept

459
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 5: by a nuggage team that Like.

460
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

461
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 4: They got him down for three to one.

462
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like what like I just, I just

463
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 5: I've seen it too many times. They have to prove

464
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 5: me wrong for me to believe in any way, you

465
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I can't.

466
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

467
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: I mean again, after what I've.

468
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: Seen the last I mean, I mean, the story of

469
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: the Kawhi years has been it just always comes down

470
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: to Kawhi, right, Like Kawhi is one of those guys

471
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: who levels up in the playoffs.

472
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 4: Like we saw him in that series with with Phoenix.

473
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: He was the best fucking player in that series, a

474
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: series with Booker and KD and he was the best

475
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: player on the floor. So and like I said, you know,

476
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: they've added hard and hard and has been a great facilitator.

477
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: Right Like, he's out there, you know, only getting getting

478
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: you like eighteen points a game, but he's getting you

479
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: like ten to eleven assists, right Like he is a

480
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: perfect fit there, even though he shit was real rocking

481
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: when he first joined. And like those first five games,

482
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: I think they went on five. But but yeah, like

483
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: I said, I mean, we still got to see how

484
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: it translates into the postseason. But like I said, man,

485
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think the championship is diver for

486
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: the loser. But I'm I'm I'm pretty hang on these Clippers.

487
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 4: Man.

488
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 5: I hate to say it. The Celtics ain't gonna do it.

489
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: That's fools gold for the show. I feel the same

490
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 5: way about the Celtics. I feel about the Clippers, you

491
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 5: know what I mean, We're like, they're really good regular season.

492
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: The Celtics are.

493
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just using yeah this Celtics.

494
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: These Celtic sarcafusing the ship because they played to the

495
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: level of their competition. It's it's it's fucking it's it's

496
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: my numbing. Like you know that game when when bron

497
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: and a d sat out, I was like, oh, the

498
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: Celtics would be funny. All they lost that game, right, Like,

499
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: I just don't understand.

500
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 5: It, not to get back almost lost the Pistons, you

501
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: know what I mean, go ahead, go ahead.

502
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 7: I'm sorry not to get back in my Lakers back.

503
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: But we beat the Knicks, and we in at that

504
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: whole streak. And the Celtics, like I don't understand.

505
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: And and and the thunder are are jockeying for a

506
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: one seed and the Lakers have had their number all

507
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: season too, right, Like it's just a They're another fucking

508
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: team that we can't wrap our head around.

509
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: So maybe we're like the Clippers of the West, except

510
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: records aren't the.

511
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: Same, the Clippers of the of the Clippers, then the

512
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Clippers of the of the team that shares that shares

513
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: the with the Clippers.

514
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: Y'all are what y'all think of the Clippers. That's what

515
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: the Lakers are. We are sorry, we we we, I just.

516
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 7: I don't get it.

517
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: Clippers not gonna win Celtics. I could see. It's hard

518
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: because I always think of Jason Tatum as being nineteen,

519
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: like everybody does. But I can see him taking a

520
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: step or two. And I don't know, I'm never gonna

521
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: say like Clippers. I mean, wow, Celtics got it. You see,

522
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna say like Celtics got it. But on

523
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: a on a good night, they're a scary team.

524
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: I just think, like I think the case for the

525
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: Clippers to me is the Nuggets are maybe, like maybe

526
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: no team is more reliant on one player in terms

527
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: of championship expectations, you know, maybe the Bucks, but like,

528
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: if anything happens to Jokic, yeah, the Clippers, you know

529
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. And he's a big and he's so durable,

530
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: but he's also a big bro. And when bigs go

531
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: from durable to like not durable very quickly, you know

532
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: what I mean. So yeah, yeah, so so I don't know.

533
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm and again I'm not saying I expect

534
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: that or whatever. It's just the reality of it is.

535
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: And we've seen that a lot the last couple of years.

536
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: It really comes down to health. It really comes down

537
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: to how good is your best player right now? And

538
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know, Yeah, like, do I

539
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: think it's more likely Kawhi Leonard has an injury in

540
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs and then Jokic, Yes, obviously, But there's certainly,

541
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: Like I think I do think the Clippers are in

542
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: that they have a shot at it, which, just to

543
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: be honest, scared the hell out of me. They were

544
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: in me a hell of a lot more than the Thunder, Dude,

545
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.

546
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 4: Like, come on, yeah, yeah, bro, Yeah for sure.

547
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 5: I mean, they're just they're they're more battle tests than

548
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 5: the Thunder.

549
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: The Thunder this is the first year we've seen him.

550
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: Like, oh, you know, I mean it's kind of like

551
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: the Kings when they first got good, you know what

552
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 5: I mean, Like they're a good team, they want a

553
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 5: lot of but you kind of know what happens in

554
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 5: the playoffs, you know, I mean, it's a lot to beat.

555
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: Hey, but listen, but this is weird. Let me read you.

556
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: I'll just read you right now today the top six

557
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: teams in the West. How and you tell me how

558
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: many of these teams you think are a championship contender?

559
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: The Timberwolves, Yeah.

560
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: Well, then the Nuggets. You think the Timbers are champion contender?

561
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't care. They're ready.

562
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: I do think they're ready.

563
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: The Nuggets are ready, Okay, I mean obviously, but I'll

564
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 5: give you those two and then it's Thunder, Clippers, Sons, Pelicans,

565
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean.

566
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: Like, it's just it's just gonna be a weird playoffs

567
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: and the seatings are gonna be weird too. I think

568
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 3: it's gonna be another year where you're looking at a

569
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: lot of lower seeds like, oh, this team gets to

570
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: go and play, you know, like the Lakers end up

571
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: playing the Thunder in the first round. I feel pretty

572
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: good about this series.

573
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: But the Suns, they're clicking, clicking, they're clicking still though

574
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: you know the postseason you need that defense. You know,

575
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: that's like a glaring hole there. But but they're figuring

576
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: out what bill they're hooping?

577
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: All right, we said, we said, this is a trade

578
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: deadline show, and it was just I don't know, my

579
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: heart rate didn't get above sixty five all day. But

580
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: what but what what? What?

581
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: What moves you know, moves the needle for y'all.

582
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: I know, obviously the Knicks got better, but like, does

583
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: it did anyone see anything on trade deadline? Did that

584
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: changed the way they thought about the playoffs or how

585
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: this season was? Shake up?

586
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Keeping it on the Knicks, you know, they just kind

587
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: of further cemented you know, they're another team I'm high on. Right,

588
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: if we get like a Knicks Clippers finals, the world

589
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: might fucking implode. Speaking of emplosion, but the Knicks, bro Like,

590
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm at the point that where I would not be

591
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 2: surprised if they win the East, like I would not

592
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: be Like, Okay, at the top of the season, we

593
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: knew the East was going to be a three team race,

594
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: well a two and a half team race. Right when

595
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: it was gonna be the Celtics and the Bucks. Those

596
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: are the big dogs, and and and and the Sixers

597
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: had an outside shot. Six is off the table, and

598
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Bee's done for the year. The Celtics we just discussed

599
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: they are confusingly. They confusingly play to the level of

600
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: their talent. You never know what team you're getting that

601
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: in without them, same with the Bus.

602
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 4: They're not getting they don't have their shit together.

603
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: The Knicks have been incredible since that Og trade, right

604
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: like he has just been a perfect bit. And then

605
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: they trade for for Boggden and Berks, and they've got

606
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of wings out there who can shoot, like

607
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of forty percent guys. From three you got

608
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: an All NBA guy and Jerr Jolson, you've got great

609
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: coaching and Tims if he just fucking you know, takes

610
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: his foot off the gas and stops playing these guys

611
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: fifty three minutes a fucking game. I'm really high on

612
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: the Knicks, man, I really am.

613
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 5: People were saying that they're championship contenders. Now I wouldn't

614
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: go that far, you know what I mean.

615
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: I think it comes out the West if they do

616
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: make it out the East. But I do think they

617
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: can make it out the East. Okay, And I feel

618
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: the same. And I bro like Mike was like, do

619
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: you want to talk about Bogie? I think Bogie. I

620
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: think he's a he can shoot, he has size. They

621
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: needed to shooting for sure, you know what.

622
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 5: I'm even on the even prior to you know, these

623
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: trades on their best days, they weren't gonna have the

624
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: most shooting, so that they benefit there.

625
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: They benefit from the size.

626
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: They have another ball handling burks, you know what I'm saying, Like,

627
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: I think they got the pieces that they need, especially

628
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: when like the pool wasn't that deep of you know,

629
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 5: what you can really do and what was.

630
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

631
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: I think the front office and the team is proven

632
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: to be smart. Dare I say like when it comes

633
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: to the Haven, say that prior, prior, years prior, But yeah,

634
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: I mean, they made solid moves and I think they

635
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: have a chance of definitely winning the East. I mean

636
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: I think that's a long shot. I think the Bucks

637
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: are gonna have to just continue to stink. I think

638
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: the subject is gonna have to stink it up as well,

639
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: because I think the Celtics there.

640
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: I think they're good enough to beat the Knicks, but

641
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: more than good enough.

642
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I'm happy they made these trades these

643
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: I'm happy they're moving in this direction. I think the

644
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: NBA is more fun when the Knicks are good than

645
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: when they're just, you know, a serviceable team that makes

646
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

647
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: A good Knicks team is a good NBA.

648
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Keep saying that nobody cares if other teams they are great.

649
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: I think I think the same thing with the Lakers.

650
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: I think these big market teams.

651
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: People hate when the Lakers are great, might tell.

652
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: Them people do hate it, but that's what makes it,

653
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: I feel, And I feel like it's the same like

654
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: if if the if the Knicks are good, and you

655
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know this is because the

656
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: East Coast fans haven't really had ship to get super

657
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: obnoxious about, like Knicks fans are the worse. Knicks fans

658
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: are worse than Laker fans. So like, you know, you

659
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: you really up the obnoxious quot shit and that that's

660
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: what the league is. It's the quote sweet league, you know,

661
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: like you need people trying to dunk on each other

662
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: and and be miserable in the streets. Like we saw

663
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: how crazy New York got when the Knicks.

664
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: Were That's what I was gonna say. Their fans are

665
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: funny ship. I enjoy when the Knicks a because their

666
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: fans beyond one. But but bro, like like I said,

667
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: like last postseason, we saw Jimmy Butler and Gabe Vincent

668
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: and Kayla Martin go through the Celtics and the Bucks.

669
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: You telling me Jaylen Brunson and Randall and og And

670
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: and Boggy can't do the same. I'm high on these Knicks, Bro.

671
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: I think I think I think they could.

672
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking this is it's it's unlikely. That's how

673
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: I feel at this point. You know what I mean,

674
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: We'll see, We'll see. But I saw we're talking about

675
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: like hate fueling you Like I think I watched I

676
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: Like we talked about Kobe earlier. Earlier, I rooted against

677
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: Kobe his entire career, you know what I mean. But

678
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: I also watched damn near every Kobe game that I

679
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: could and cried when he retired.

680
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I hated Steph, you know

681
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, while.

682
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 5: He was going to get up against Bron, But I

683
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: watched I watched maybe more Stephan Warriors games than Bron

684
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 5: than Brian games during the period when they're really.

685
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: Good, because it was such beautiful basketball.

686
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: Like I'm a like, so even if you hate you

687
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I think hate con fuel. I mean,

688
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: you're you're still watching a bunch of basketball doing it.

689
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: So I think it just made Like when when I

690
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: hated Steph, basketball was better. Like I'm watching Brian and

691
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: stuff now and I enjoyed the game, but I'm like,

692
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: I just wanted both to play good.

693
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: That's beautiful, but it's not as fun you.

694
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: Know, watching Kobe playing him killing the team the players

695
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: that I that I was a fan of, Like you

696
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like that was fun, you know

697
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. When I rooted against him, I really

698
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: enjoyed that experience. That's why I cried in my fucking

699
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: chicken wings in Buffalo Wow wings when he retired.

700
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But like I think, I think, hey,

701
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: this is good.

702
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: So I think the next you know, being good and

703
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 5: you know, the Lakers being good and people hating that.

704
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: You know, it feels NBA the energy energy.

705
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, he started eating wings.

706
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: Dah.

707
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: That was man, that was that was that was what

708
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: through twenty sixteen, Buffalo Wings out them career jerk wings

709
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: still go hard dog. I'm sorry and no, man, I

710
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: mean we we.

711
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: I I had been six then the bean that's the

712
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: last time I went, you know what I mean.

713
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: No punish me, but I got a I got wing

714
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: stuff delivered last night after the Hall of Fame ship

715
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: I hosted. I I didn't get home till like ten thirty,

716
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, I just put the order and

717
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: I was like, meet me at my house at a

718
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: quarter to.

719
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: What what what do you get there?

720
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: My stomach so fucked up, bro, I just get mild

721
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: and eleven pepper, you know what I mean. Pepper. When

722
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: we were in high school, we used to do this

723
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: shit when we would eat the atomic wings and like

724
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: whoever broke eye contact first was you know we used

725
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: to do sh like I can't do any of that.

726
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: It's just the stomach line.

727
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: You're so right, Jazz, it's insane any of us survived

728
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: to thirty row.

729
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't know how. Men just survived Like y'all

730
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: were doing some crazy shit. So every time y'all make

731
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: it so I don't know, like twenty five, I'm like,

732
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: good for you.

733
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: So every miracle, Bro, we are all dumb as sound

734
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: shit we've done. And y'all know how I feel about that.

735
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: We've actually talked about that, bro, like you know, you

736
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: need a little luck to make it this far.

737
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: Well, we Jazz, we were just talking about, uh, when

738
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: we had we had Chelsea Arita on for a Super

739
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: Bowl preview. We were talking about how I had probably

740
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: COVID in February of twenty twenty, but like I thought

741
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna die like three days and I was

742
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: having trouble breathing and and and so, and I said,

743
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: I was like, my my wife made me go to

744
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: urgent care. And both Chelsea and Rita just rolled their eyes, like,

745
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: of course your wife made you go to urgent care

746
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: because you would have just died in your bed, like.

747
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 8: You just just like probably true, he texted us, saying, like,

748
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 8: you know that part of like when you're sick and

749
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 8: you're like you're gonna die and.

750
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: The are like no experience that. No, we don't know

751
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: that part.

752
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: Go to the fucking hospital, like when your male friends

753
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: are telling you go get some help then weaken.

754
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: Bro, why did it take this so long?

755
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have an answer for that

756
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: toxic masculinity. And I would add, by the way, like

757
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: my friends at high school and I were like we

758
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: were we were the nice boys too, you know what

759
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Like we weren't.

760
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: The only dumb shit we were doing was with our car.

761
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: We weren't like you know, we weren't getting into trouble

762
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: or mistreating people or anything. But we still would go

763
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: to wingstop and like, if you can only eat three

764
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: atomic wings, I still toxic.

765
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: You're fucking yourself up though this The only difference is

766
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: it's inward, you know what I mean. It's not like

767
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 5: external you know, prefer that to the other one obviously,

768
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 5: but you know what I mean, Yeah, it hurts us all.

769
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Anyway. There's something in there about Lakers fans I can't

770
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: quite connect it, but it's you have chosen the version

771
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: of toxicity jazz that is na I.

772
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 7: Did not choose.

773
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Chose me. Although I got into it when my dad

774
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: was into it. Sh it was gravy, you know, it

775
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: was showtime right far from that right now, although you know,

776
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: I'll be hanging on to like the nice little touch

777
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: passes bron makes and hearing that. Yeah, I'm just at this.

778
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: Point, I'm with Okay, I will say, well, we can,

779
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: we can end on this. But I will say the

780
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: one thing about being a fan of one of the

781
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: real teams, of being a Laker fan is even in

782
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: a season that's frustrated the hell out of you, we

783
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: do get moments like the Kobe statue on veiling last night,

784
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: which was beautiful. The ceremony was beautiful. I thought that

785
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: the statue is great. They did a great job putting

786
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: the ceremony together. There's so many good stories. What did

787
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: that night mean to you as a Laker fan and

788
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: a Kobe fan of that celebration, it was.

789
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I not gonna lie. I shed a

790
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: thug tear. It was great to see like Vanessa who

791
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: is obviously so strong but like Derek Fisher, which in

792
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: my eyes of like Kobe's sidekicks kind of is like

793
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: number one he can pass to whoever. And I know

794
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: people love the soul like that's my guy too, but anyone. Yeah, yeah,

795
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: like oh man, just seeing everybody up in there from

796
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: like WNA players, Cannice Parker was up in there, Wade.

797
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: I love when everybody like comes together, and I do.

798
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't say I hate

799
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: that it has to happen like in depth, which because

800
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: like I do feel like if Kobe was alive, everybody

801
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: would still be on there, like m J. Brown Kobe talk,

802
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: and it's only now that we get to appreciate all

803
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: that Kobe has done well for some people.

804
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that changes the NBA. I don't

805
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 5: see that Goat conversation as much. Yeah, Like I think

806
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: that changed perspective, like when we would spend so much time,

807
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 5: like like I said, I cried watching Kobe like retire,

808
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: but in the Goat conversation, I was always come on, man,

809
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And so like you know,

810
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: like I was arguing against Kobe fans, like if I

811
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: didn't watch hell of Kobe games and more Kobe games

812
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: than maybe any other basketball player. You feel me so like, Yeah,

813
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it gave us perspective.

814
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: I U.

815
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: I you said, I hate that it happened in that way,

816
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 5: but yeah, I feel like we don't even that conversation,

817
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: doesn't even Harry to carry the weighted.

818
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, like Kobe's number one. But if you said, oh,

819
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I love of MJ, Bron, Magic, Kareem, whoever, I'm like,

820
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I can see that as long as you.

821
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: As long as it's sixty percent Lakers in your top

822
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: five Jazz, Yeah.

823
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: I think. I think the thing when it comes to

824
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: like best and greatness is different. I think the thing

825
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: when it comes to best.

826
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 7: And greatness Kobe's greatness.

827
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: She said. She said, look, you feel like Kobe. You

828
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: can like powerless all you feel like Andrew Biden.

829
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: Blinded who were great? But I'm like MJ. And then

830
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: of another non Laker. But I was also saying this

831
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: shack when he's on the man. Yeah, I'm sorry, were

832
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: just great.

833
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 4: What can we do?

834
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: It's not our fallow ship. Look at all the statues.

835
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, any sports team in America has

836
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: that many statues outside their building. One of them is bullshit,

837
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: and not one of the Lakers ones is bullshit. You

838
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean? All those statues are real statues.

839
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 3: They should all be there, and they all look good.

840
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the other two Kobe ones to

841
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: get made. That was gonna be fire.

842
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me a bullshit statue, I want to say,

843
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: I would.

844
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see a bullshit statue. Any statue of

845
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: an athlete before nineteen seven years.

846
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: That wasn't even basketball. I don't know what they was playing,

847
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: they wasn't playing basketball any how about that?

848
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: Any statue reintegration of any athlete, how about that was

849
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: so look what he was doing of those little white

850
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: kids from in there, right, What are you.

851
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: Doing when black people couldn't play?

852
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: You know, the cop statue out there, because that would

853
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: be the biggest fucking bullshit statue.

854
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure Joe Namath as a statue somewhere

855
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: with his like thirty percent career completion percentage, you know,

856
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: fucking nine hundred interceptions ass Like. I'm sure, I'm sure

857
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: there's some some bullshit statues. That's okay for Jenkins and

858
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: Jones fans. That's a good challenge for you. For for

859
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: before we record. On Sunday, tweeted us the most bullshit

860
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: sports statues out there. I'm sure there are some whoppers.

861
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 4: I probably got one too. Cob had a statue outside

862
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: the Braves. The motherfucker was a tiger, right, that's that

863
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: is he from Atlanta. Yeah, the Georgia Peach is what

864
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: they call him. I know he's from Georgia.

865
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, right, we're gonna get on statue. Watch. That's

866
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: all the time we got.

867
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we got confederates, you know, like these thiggas

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Speaker 5: our cop ty cop teke your ass.

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Speaker 4: With Roberty Lee. Motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. All right,

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Speaker 4: that's all the time we got.

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Speaker 3: Hope everyone enjoys the super Bowl. We will talk to

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Speaker 3: y'all on Monday. Uh, while you are holding your phone

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Speaker 3: our wonderful producer Beco has got going and she wants

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Speaker 3: already subscribe on YouTube. Subscribe on YouTube and then it's Twitter,

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Speaker 3: It's Instagram is TikTok and his Facebook. Jenkins and Jones

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Speaker 3: or Jenkins and Jones pod go follow those. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: getting those going. Biko Jazz, thanks so much for having

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Speaker 3: on with us, long awaited and we'll have to have

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Speaker 3: you back sooner.

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Speaker 1: Now anytime hit me, like when the Lakers are in

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Speaker 1: the final, because I will never come back. Okay, So.

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Speaker 4: I mean, looking on yourself is crazy. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: The volume

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