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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January thirty one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Portions of tonight's special Jaguars Happy Hour will be brought

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Speaker 1: to you a live from Radio Row in Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: now newly inducted member of the Varsity hot Dog Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, j Pace hold most of the records. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lagerman in Jacksonville. Hi, Jeff, Hi, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? Man? Doing good? Good to see it. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be seen. We've got ourselves show here tonight

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Speaker 1: we do. Let's get to what we're getting to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote looming. We'll hear from Tony Boselli,

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Speaker 1: one of the fifteen finalists for the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame vote, which comes up Saturday in Atlanta. The

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Speaker 1: selection committee meets and we'll have a decision sometimes Saturday

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Speaker 1: afternoon if he has one of the newly elected. We'll

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Speaker 1: hear from CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Frisco. He'll join

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Speaker 1: John Osier from Radio Row at the Georgia World Congress

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Speaker 1: Center in Atlanta, right across the street from Mercedes has

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Speaker 1: Been Stadium. That's coming up. At about four or fifteen,

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Speaker 1: we'll have our Super Bowl picks coming up. The eagerly

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Speaker 1: anticipated people can't wait. Let's go to Atlanta right now.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Tony Boselli, here he is on the phone, Tony,

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. How are you. What's going on, guys? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm heading to a Rams practice right now to go

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Speaker 1: see uh, go see them as they get final prep

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Speaker 1: in before Where do they What do you actually do

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Speaker 1: at practice? I sit there and watch and get as

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Speaker 1: much information as I can. And here's a great thing

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Speaker 1: about it, log I can't talk about anything I see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what's the sense of going? Um, I think I

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Speaker 1: could you know? Pre game? I can kind of mention

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Speaker 1: overall what I see. I thought I saw the Patriots yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and uh so tell us what you saw. I can't

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Speaker 1: really get in the specifics, so I'll say this, I

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Speaker 1: saw the same thing we saw in training camp. It's

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Speaker 1: the most organized and fishing practice and it's no different

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the Super Bowl. There so, uh, there's

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Speaker 1: no wasted time by anyone on that practice field. M

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Speaker 1: We'll have a call, of course on Westwood One coming

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Speaker 1: up this Sunday six dirty kickoff time. So are you

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Speaker 1: are you calling the game? Are you sideline? What's your role? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on the sideline. So in the boots

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Speaker 1: will be Kevin Harlan, uh, Kurt Warner and uh and

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Speaker 1: I got you and you and Edward are on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: So you'll be the only Hall of Famer in the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: No kind of famer. Let's not forget that like that.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the game coming up, of course, the

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Speaker 1: Rams and the Patriots for the Super Bowl Championship this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: six thirty, kickoff time in Atlanta. Uh, Tony, though, it's

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Speaker 1: all this is Tony was Sally week. You've been on

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Speaker 1: every program known to to Jacksonville media this week and uh,

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Speaker 1: now you're on this one as well on this Thursday

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Speaker 1: at four o'clock. How are you feeling right now, Tony

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Speaker 1: about the Hall of Fame? Um, yeah, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a great question. For whatever reason, I'm more anxious this

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Speaker 1: year than I have been in the last two years

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Speaker 1: as the finalist. I don't know why. Um, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: because I know what to expect Saturday and and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to have that phone call and have that

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Speaker 1: terrible feeling again. So I'm hoping that doesn't happen. But

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Speaker 1: it's been a fun week. It's always uh, I enjoy

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Speaker 1: you'll cover the super Bowl and talking about that, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the Hall of Fame's big topic. So we'll wait

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Speaker 1: and see. I don't know. It's one of those things that, um,

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Speaker 1: I hope I gotta knock on the door and uh.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm not talking about this, uh this this

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Speaker 1: next year. Well, I think the it's got to feel

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Speaker 1: incredibly good and an honor just to be in the

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Speaker 1: For you, I mean, there's no doubt. But Jeff, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a huge honor. And it's funny when I

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Speaker 1: was talking one of my sons our day, uh and

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Speaker 1: he says, man, you need He literally told me, says

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Speaker 1: it's it's in Jeff's right to and it's a huge

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Speaker 1: honor it is to just to be discussed U with,

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Speaker 1: It's a huge honor. Tony Boselli with us en route

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Speaker 1: there today? Came in today? Okay? What came in today?

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Speaker 1: What is the the I guess the what's the strangest

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Speaker 1: the most unique interaction you've had in Radio Row this week?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Hall of Fame or the

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Speaker 1: the East Beast player of the game? And I said

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Speaker 1: that's a unique way to ask a very simple question.

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Speaker 1: Who's the unstung hero? So that was interesting. That was

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Speaker 1: probably the most odd questioning. So I have a question.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday you watched the Patriots practice, and with Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots, they're very protective of their practices. Who

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Speaker 1: who are they enabling the ability to watch the practices

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Speaker 1: Who all is invite who's allowed to watch? Yeah? Very

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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that the practice that's open to

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Speaker 1: the media, I'm sure that there's some parts to the

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust everybody. I wouldn't. I had certain new

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the bread and butter plays that you

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Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, or designed for the Patriots, if

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo, but I'm not gonna run in that practice.

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Speaker 1: the media is there. All right, Tony, I know you

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Speaker 1: gotta get to practice coming up, but before we let

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Speaker 1: we can get to the picks a little later in

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Speaker 1: the show. But who I'm going to Patriots? I picked

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get Combrady a third time. There's

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Speaker 1: no way. I think they win. Thirty four? Wow, tight game,

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Speaker 1: high scoring. Yeah, it'd be nice. Interesting do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: something similar to that. Yeah, I'm not saying because JP

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty similar. Um, Tony, good luck to

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Speaker 1: He's back with it. I think he's got a great chance.

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Speaker 1: play against the left tackles that have already gone into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Uh you name him. I mean

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Speaker 1: Willie Rove and on down the line, and Anthony Munos,

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Speaker 1: Better than all of them. Uh. The only one that

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Speaker 1: And and again it goes back to the log jam

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00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman. I think there's a real sentiment

426
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: in that room to to get maybe one maybe even

427
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: two of those guys in this year. And and you

428
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: know what, Tony is the best of the group. We

429
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: all know that. Um, it's just a matter of convincing

430
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: those people out there. I was having an argument with

431
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: the guy today. They were talking about, well, the player

432
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: Torell Davis played in a short career, but look what

433
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs. What a Tony doing in

434
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Like, well, he took the defensive player of

435
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: the year and and and abused him in a one

436
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: on one situation. The guy didn't come near the quarterback

437
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: and he blew him off the ball and they ran

438
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: for a bunch of yards. I mean, so it's hard

439
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: to you know, you can't use stats to show that,

440
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: but you have to tell the story that way, right,

441
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: And he was just as good against And think about Tony,

442
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: and we both saw hi Jeff played against him. He

443
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: wasn't just good against Bruce. He wasn't just good the

444
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: day he played Derrick Thomas. He was that good every game,

445
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: at a games, whatever it was he played. He was

446
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: at that level eight seven or eight eight of my

447
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: Euston Marvel and we sat next to each other in

448
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: the press box, Pete and you would never see him

449
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: not only not give up a sack, you would never

450
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: see him out of position. You would never see guys

451
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: get close. I asked him once about a sack that

452
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: I thought he gave up, and he said, ah, yeah,

453
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: the guards stepped on my foot on that was like.

454
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: And the point is there were so few situations where

455
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: he ever got beat or handled. Uh. He was best

456
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: I ever saw that the one the one game, and

457
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: he'll admit to this, and he said he just didn't

458
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: have the mindset. Jonathan Quinn was playing quarterback and everybody

459
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: knew that it was gonna be a bad night and

460
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: he and he gave up a couple of sis. It

461
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: was perfect astrot or whatever. The turf was, game with

462
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: the crowd, the whole thing, and he gave up a

463
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: couple a couple of sacks. That yeah, John Randalls so

464
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: but I once saw a Freeny dominate Jonathan Ogden, really

465
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: wroth gave in, gave up five sacks to Chuck's myth.

466
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: Every tackle has that one game. But I'm with you, Pete,

467
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: in talking to people this year and in talking to

468
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: people who in the past didn't pooh poo Tony's uh

469
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: campas but they weren't necessarily on board with it. Talking

470
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: to a writer today said, hey, it sounds like the

471
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: log jam is getting broken and and people who don't

472
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: know the log jam is the offensive lineman. There's four

473
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and they feel like it's it's doing the

474
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: same thing to the offensive lineman, and that is into

475
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: receivers a few years back. It's keeping guys out because

476
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: they're taking the vote away, and it's it's fragmenting the vote.

477
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: There's a feeling that a lineman's gonna get in and

478
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the more people that people talk to, Bisselly is the

479
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: first name that comes up among those linemen. Jacoby is

480
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: now out of it, so there's no more split tackle vote. Uh.

481
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I hate to say it because I felt like he

482
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: was getting in last year. But more so than ever, Pete,

483
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, if it's not this year, when that

484
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: log gym gets broken, in one of those next three years,

485
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Tony's gonna be wearing a goldjack. Yeah. I think it's

486
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: this year. I do, and I'm and I want to

487
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: get everybody's hopes up. But you know me, I passed

488
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: to the heck of these guys that send them emails.

489
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: I talked to him and everything else. You went from

490
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: being his enemy to his agent. Yeah, I'm his agent.

491
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: Just all I wanted to do is when he does

492
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: get in and he gives his speech, I want him

493
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: to tell the hall it's time for me to get in.

494
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: They could do that. You can pay back. It could

495
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: pay me back. I mean, you know, put me in.

496
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: There is capital so so serious question here with Fannica,

497
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Maai and Hutchinson the other offensive line and that are

498
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: a possibility of getting in the hall um who might

499
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: take away votes from Tony Bosell. It feels to me, Pete,

500
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: and you're much more in terms of talking people about

501
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: all season than I am. I feel like it's Bissellian May.

502
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the conversation more than anything I

503
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: said voter Timmy's a few minutes ago, mainly because Mair

504
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: has got the two markets, when of them the New

505
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: York market, and it feels like there's two factions that

506
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: might be in his favor. Again, so much as this

507
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: is theoretical because there's so many voters and you talk

508
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: to a handful of him, but that's my feeling, Maire.

509
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: I think Tony and and May and the two me personally,

510
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jeff. I think your spot on

511
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about those guys. I think your description

512
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: of of those four guys is accurate. From my viewpoint

513
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: as well. Tony was by far and away the best

514
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: of the group. I don't think there's any question about that.

515
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: But the second best of the group was Steve Hutchinson.

516
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: He he was dominant, much like Tony was at his position.

517
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: Then I think third will be maai and fourth for

518
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: me would be fantic. I think. But when I's got

519
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: that little trump card and these catch phrases get involved

520
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: with the room, I assume of well, he was the

521
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: best center of his generation, and he was, But was

522
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: he necessarily better than Hutchinson was at guard in that generation?

523
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. No, he was, he was not. Hutchinson

524
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: was a better player than Kevin Mawa. That'll be the battle, Beselly.

525
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: Best left tackle of his generation, may best center of

526
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: his generation. That will, I would think, confuse people in

527
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: the room. See it would be a conflict. You can't

528
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: do is throw out Pro Bowls. They mean nothing, and

529
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: then you it's funny everybody sits here when the Pro

530
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Bowl voting happens and the guys make the Pro Bowl

531
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: and everybody poop loose it. That doesn't mean anything in garbage.

532
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: You know, fans vote and everything else. And then when

533
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: you get in the room, they prop up Pro bowls,

534
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: hit the print out. That's it's. Yeah, it makes no

535
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: sense to me. So for me, I do think he's

536
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: getting in, though I did. Here here's another one. I

537
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: was talking to a guy today and we were talking

538
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: about the other other players, and and he said, well,

539
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: I said, Champ Bailey should be one of the locks, right,

540
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: and he's, oh, tye law, you know, they gotta get

541
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: those New England one of those somebody from those New

542
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: England teams in there. Do you was he a better

543
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: player than Champ Bailey? No, I believe, I mean some

544
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: people think so. But the arment right, well, what about

545
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: the numbers of those two guys? Bailey had more Pro Bowls?

546
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowls don't matter, right, Bailey was a better player.

547
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Your eyes can tell about stories sometimes, and he was

548
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: a better player. So just because he played on a

549
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: good day, you know, Okay, they keep saying we gotta

550
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: get somebody from those New England dynasty end Brady and

551
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Bill are getting in. Rights, I mean, McGinnis is McGinnis.

552
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: The Hall of Famer is Richard Seymour Hall of Famer?

553
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Was Law better than Seymour? I would say Law is

554
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: a little better than Seymour overall for the course of

555
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: his career. It's bigger probably, Uh. I would put Law

556
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: third behind Brady and okay, it's Brady probably into it's

557
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Brady Belichick ground right, And then you could count Randy

558
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Moss for those two years. But he really wasn't a Patriot.

559
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: But that's it. The other guys, they're all really good players,

560
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: and they have a real chance to get into the

561
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Hall down the road, but they're not slam dunks. Jeff,

562
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: who do you think was better Seymour or Law or

563
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: or McGinnis. I don't know. I mean, you're talking about

564
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: three great players. I don't know. I mean, that's Ty Law,

565
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: you probably have more memorable plays from. But Richard Seymour

566
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: playing player out of the ability the flexibility that he

567
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: had to play inside, play outside. He was kind of

568
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: like Clais Campbell a little bit in that respect. Before

569
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Clais Campbell, uh, and William McGuinness was one hell of

570
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: a player on the outside, you know. So I don't know.

571
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a great arguments only had ten

572
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: sacks one year. Jason Taylor only had ten sacks three years. Yeah,

573
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: and he got in. He got in. And there's another

574
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: that was the last for me. On that list, Richard

575
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Seymour would be second, Tyler would be first. Man. How

576
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: many how many career interceptions does tayl Aw have? We

577
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: had a lot in the big in the big games too,

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: had a lot in the postseason. I'd love to see

579
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: like a Champ barely compared to ty Law career in interceptions. Yeah,

580
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: but but Tony, I mean, Jeff, you would you would

581
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: agree that watching it, just from observing it, Champ was

582
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: a better player. Yeah, I think he was a better player.

583
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: But ty Law had famous moments, but you can't. And

584
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: it's the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's I think

585
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I think that Vic Catchman taught

586
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: me years ago and kind of had to correct me,

587
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: because you know, I was sitting there whining and complaining

588
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: that the offensive lineman there weren't enough of him getting

589
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: in or defensive tackles, and Vic had to remind me

590
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: that it's the Hall of Fame, which doesn't mean the

591
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Great Players. So because there is a difference

592
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: now Vick also came from the Steelers, we thought he'd

593
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: put everybody in, you know. I mean, here's the problem

594
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame. They're putting too many good

595
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: too many good players from great teams in and not

596
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: enough great players from bad teams. And the other problem

597
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: that has come up in the last couple of years

598
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: is there's all of a sudden, this rush. This was

599
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: a topic last year of her Lacker gets in last year,

600
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: and there was this feeling and I think we talked

601
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: about a pete that oh, well, he's gonna be in

602
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, so he has to get in

603
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: first ballot or he's been wronged. And I think that's

604
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Champ this year. I think people will think, oh,

605
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: we've got to get him in and he should be

606
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. In the old days, there

607
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: wasn't this first ballot magic. We're all of a sudden

608
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: if a guy didn't get in, he was being wrong

609
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: And I think some voters, what are they gonna say

610
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: on Twitter if this guy doesn't get in, the process

611
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: is gonna get rid. I think that hurt Tony last year,

612
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: and you just wonder if they're not shoving guys forward

613
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: in their process, because all Hall voters talk about the process,

614
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: whether it should be or not. There's a process of

615
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: them trying to get certain guys, certain positions in and

616
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of gummed up the works, if

617
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: you will. The Supreme Court justices they get us, there's

618
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: a little lot of that, and it's, uh, yeah, it's there.

619
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: It's a there's an elite feel too that room. And look,

620
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm not in that room. You'll be in. It's I

621
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: don't want to be in it. I could do more,

622
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: No I don't. I can do more help for guys

623
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: outside that room, to be honest with you. And once

624
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Tony gets in, then they start getting Then they start

625
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: getting bombed on Fred. He's gonna be in the room.

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the get the Writer's Award at some point.

627
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: What I'm saying he should be in the room, I'm

628
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: not saying he should be wearing a gold jacket in

629
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: the room. I'm just saying you should be. I wouldn't.

630
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I would be wearing a gold jacket in that room.

631
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: You will be there. Let's come backy Pete, you got

632
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: a few minutes more. Yeah, okay, let's come back. Let's

633
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: get into some Jaguars talk show when we come back,

634
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: all right, Um, Marquis Lee was in attendance today at

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Speaker 1: that they'll all get in it. You look at how

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Speaker 1: You know, now there's maybe a little bit more except

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta now, were joined by John Osier and Pete Prisco.

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Speaker 1: By the way, to wrap up our Taie Law Champ

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Speaker 1: fifty two interceptions rightoth Hall of Famers. It's like these

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Speaker 1: voters always saying it really is true. If you're in

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Speaker 1: that top fifteen, you're a Hall of Fame player. It's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of the process work. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there are rumors that next year, for the hundredth anniversary

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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame of the NFL, that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna expand the class to should be I don't they didn't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard, but I would imagine, like you know,

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Speaker 1: another three or four or something like that, maybe just

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Speaker 1: for that year or for the year. Yeah, because they

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Speaker 1: it should be more. It should be expanded to seven.

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Speaker 1: You got forty four guy, you know, forty four guys

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Speaker 1: counting offensive defense, and and you only put five in.

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Speaker 1: There's so many positions in sport, and like right, NBA

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Speaker 1: you got five positions. So what you're saying is that

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Speaker 1: if they expand that next year, which is not anything

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Speaker 1: in bedrock, that's chance if they do that would be

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Speaker 1: almost assured next year if they would do something. Who

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting in that one. I want to get

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Speaker 1: in the other one. That's hilarious. You're in your own

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Speaker 1: hall of fame, longest longest tenured guy. I wanted cover

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Speaker 1: in the NFL one internet site that there is in

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Speaker 1: my campaign. My question to you guys to just get

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Speaker 1: sidetracked away from Tony Boselli here for a minute. You

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Speaker 1: guys have watched covered many Super Bowls in uh in

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Speaker 1: your past. What do you guys feeling this weekend about

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Speaker 1: the about the big game? It's so hard to pick

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots in this and and you're not picking

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Speaker 1: against him, well, hell no, And I think this will

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Speaker 1: be in at as silly. It sounds of an organization.

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Speaker 1: This won five. This would be the most impressive, the

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Speaker 1: most legacy defining, because this to me would clearly be

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Speaker 1: a year where they want it where I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: they were the best team for most of the year.

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Speaker 1: There have been teams that have won that way before,

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Speaker 1: uh and it it would define to me Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: if he hasn't already as the best coach of our

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Speaker 1: general this is his best coaching job ever right here.

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Speaker 1: And he's had great ones. This is by far as best.

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Speaker 1: You guys saw the team early in the year, it

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Speaker 1: was a mess right then. They had to struggles in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the year. They lost that game against

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Speaker 1: Miami on that foot play, And everybody always sits there

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Speaker 1: and says, assigned the barry of the Patriots, the dynasty

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Speaker 1: is over. What we don't consider is Belichick always gets

747
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Speaker 1: the defense playing better at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: and he takes young pieces and he moves them around.

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Speaker 1: He kind of experiments during the regular season, and he's capable.

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Speaker 1: He's allowed to do that because the division stinks, so

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Speaker 1: he can't experiment, and he experiments with guys like Jones

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Speaker 1: and Jackson in the secondary, and then they get it

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Speaker 1: right and they play so many different guys. I was

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Speaker 1: ranking the starters in this game last week, and it's

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Speaker 1: hard to rank the Patriots because they use so many

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Speaker 1: different combinations on offense and defense. So it's for me,

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Speaker 1: I think this is the greatness of Bill Belichick. What

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do in this game is gonna be so

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Speaker 1: Belichick in And by that I mean they're going to

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Speaker 1: beat up the receivers of the Rams. And on offense,

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Speaker 1: they are going to let Aaron Donald come flying up

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Speaker 1: the field. They're gonna wham him about twenty two thousand

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Speaker 1: times this week. Five defensive holding penalties in the first half,

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Speaker 1: none in the second half. And they're gonna run the

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Speaker 1: ball right at You know, the Rams have had trouble

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Speaker 1: running ball, Jeff. You'll know this when you have a

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Speaker 1: little defense and they're little. Look, Aaron Donald's great, but

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Speaker 1: he's little. Mark Barron's a up safety playing linebacker's little

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Speaker 1: Littleton's little. You can run right at those guys and

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Speaker 1: they don't like it. Usually those kind of guys don't

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Speaker 1: like to be run at. So I think they're good.

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Speaker 1: They like to have the lead the past. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball this week. Interesting stuff there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little Jaguars here. Earlier today on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, John Osier, who was on this program, currently

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Speaker 1: caught up with Mark Quislee, Jaguars wider. Ciro was in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: He's recovering from a knee issue. And yes, it was

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Speaker 1: very tough to watch on the side of this year

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Speaker 1: for number eleven. I'm a sick. I'm a say, especially

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Speaker 1: no with the type of position we had. As far

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Speaker 1: as as a team, um, um, when we fell short

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Speaker 1: this year, we had a lot of injuries and things

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Speaker 1: like that. We're just learning. No excuse because the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you know you have them, but um, we fell short.

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Speaker 1: We just gotta come back snoger next year. Um. As

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Speaker 1: far as me sitting on the outside of watching sick,

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Speaker 1: name you know, besides the fact that's losing it, I'm

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Speaker 1: just sick. The fact that I can even be out

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Speaker 1: there just contribute to us losing or to anything. You

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Speaker 1: know I'm saying. I think is my teammates know for me,

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Speaker 1: is it's about being out there and give them off

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Speaker 1: of him and uh, I mean not being able to

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Speaker 1: do that last year, it was difficult for him. John

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Speaker 1: You visited with Marquis for a little bit longer today.

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Speaker 1: The full interview available on Jaguars dot com. His mood

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Speaker 1: is pretty bright right now. It sounds like, well, he's

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00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: feeling closer to being back, uh than he certainly did

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Speaker 1: during the season. And the good news is when he

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Speaker 1: was for him, and it was a it was a devastating,

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Speaker 1: ugly injury. The word around the building has been and

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Speaker 1: and and and Marquis said it this week. He's further

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Speaker 1: ahead than they expected to be. He ain't to be

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Speaker 1: back for the good season. I don't know if he'll

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Speaker 1: be immediately back to what he was in two thousands seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but they need him. He was important for a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons. A third down, he was their toughest receiver,

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Speaker 1: he was their best run blocker receiver. They missed him

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Speaker 1: a lot more than people thought they did this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, look, he's the number

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Speaker 1: one receiver though, but he's a two. And now they

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Speaker 1: got to find a one, uh or somebody has to

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Speaker 1: merge as the one. I mean, you draft a chart,

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Speaker 1: uh pretty high. I don't know if he could be

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Speaker 1: a one, but I don't think that Markis can be

816
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Speaker 1: a big part of the team. Again, though, that thing

817
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: was spaghetti, right, I mean it was every one of

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Speaker 1: a couple of different ligaments in that kneed that went

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Speaker 1: been no official word. All the word is though, is

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Speaker 1: that they use is significant. Yeah, So I mean that

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Speaker 1: that's always a concern. He's lucky if there was no

822
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Speaker 1: nerve damage. I mean we've seen that with the injuries

823
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Speaker 1: lately too, with like Jalen Smith, and he came back

824
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Speaker 1: and he's played at a high level. So everything you

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Speaker 1: hear is that he's further ahead and ake. But every

826
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Speaker 1: surgery we hear they're always further ahead than we expect.

827
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Speaker 1: You always hear that. I think the one thing about

828
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Speaker 1: that play that still bothers me to this day is

829
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Speaker 1: that it was unnecessary. It was a cheap shot. He

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Speaker 1: didn't need to go low, and he did in a

831
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Speaker 1: preseason game. I'm gonna come on, and that guy, you know,

832
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: he did it again later in the season. So yeah,

833
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: that's and we're talking about CAZy. This the safety for

834
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Speaker 1: the for the Falcons, and he apologized, but like you

835
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it. But again, let's just play it out.

836
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Speaker 1: Mark Easley doesn't get hurt once he catched fifty passes

837
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Speaker 1: this year at best. Yeah, but they are they missed

838
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Speaker 1: been when you start talking abou a receiver for his

839
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Speaker 1: run blocking, then he does some block linebackers and defensive

840
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Speaker 1: tackles on a regular base. I'm not saying they go

841
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Speaker 1: fourteen two with him, but because they maybe even won

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Speaker 1: one more game with him, yeah, probably, Let's just say

843
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Speaker 1: it would have helped, would have been any worse, It

844
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: could have been any worse with that offense. Where are

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00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: you standing right now? Pete on Um free agency draft?

846
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Really do at quarterback? Right now? If you're gonna pick today,

847
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna sniff around Nick Foles provided these

848
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: free and he's gonna be free. They can't keep them.

849
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna be free. They can can talk all they

850
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: want about we might put the tag on No, you're not.

851
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: First off, you got the issue with Wentz. Now supposedly

852
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: that story came out bad Logger room. You can't bring

853
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: Folds back. You can't if once he is your guy,

854
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: you can't bring Folds back. They know that. Everybody knows that,

855
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: so they can't. They can't tag him. So what's he

856
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: gonna do. He's gonna buy out his obviously gonna become

857
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: a free agent, and the market is very limited for him.

858
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: People keep saying, oh, where the where are all the options?

859
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: In Miami they're rebuilding, they're not gonn going after him.

860
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: In uh Denver, they're talking about draft and Drew Locker

861
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: or quarterback in the first round, So they won't go

862
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: after him. Washington would they? Would they go after him?

863
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a possibility. They can't afford them, but so

864
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a situation where the market's

865
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: very limited. Jacksonville might actually get a good price on them,

866
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: and that's a good price in this market. Yeah, would

867
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I give that to up Form? Probably not, But but

868
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Speaker 1: this is a regime that needs to win. Now how

869
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: much better? And this is obviously the million dollar question

870
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: with him. You're obviously gonna pay a lot, and you're

871
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna overpay because you always pay for courting crazy.

872
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: There's no question he makes you better. You follow the

873
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Speaker 1: whole league more than we do. How much better does

874
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Speaker 1: he make it? And is it worth set, you put

875
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: a tag, well, he also got a factor in what

876
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna do in addition to it. Let's just say

877
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: they pay him twenty three. Well, then in your draft

878
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: you can maybe take the offensive tackles sitting there. Maybe

879
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: you get the kid from Alabama. I don't think it

880
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: will be that. It might not be either that far.

881
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: But if you get the other tackle from Florida, then

882
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: you play him at left tackle. I think you move

883
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the other kid over to the right songem Cam Robinson

884
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: the right tackle, and then you're Norwell and Linda who

885
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Speaker 1: knows where they come back, but they should be back,

886
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Speaker 1: and then you find a right guard all of a

887
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Speaker 1: sudden by not drafting a quarterback. Which I'm a big

888
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Speaker 1: draft and developed guy, but this regime needs to win.

889
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Speaker 1: Now they've kind of solved their offensive line issues. You

890
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: hope Chalk can come back and draft the receiver uh

891
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Speaker 1: in the draft, and then you go from there and

892
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Speaker 1: you never know what four net to be one answer

893
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: to tight end? How do you solve tight end receiver?

894
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to overhaul receiver, as mentioned

895
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: a lot outsiders do. I think they'll have essentially the

896
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: same receiver something's got to get into Will you sniff

897
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: around him? He's that better than the second round rookie. Uh,

898
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty good tight end draft class. So no,

899
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: probably not. But can you fix it with a rookie

900
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Speaker 1: tight end? Can you be good enough with a rookie

901
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: tight end? Here's the problem. The complete tight end is

902
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: no longer around, okay, So in their offense they want

903
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Speaker 1: to be run base right, So if you're getting a

904
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: tight end, you want them to be able to block,

905
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: and they had a problem with that this year. Nobody

906
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Speaker 1: could block. So but if you draft tight end the block,

907
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Speaker 1: then then you're kind of defeating the purpose of drafting

908
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: the second round. So you gotta be there's like kind

909
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: of a fine line there, but there are some good

910
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Speaker 1: tightish and almost asn't exists anymore as we think it's

911
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: really they're talking to Greg Olsen today and he was

912
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: saying how tough it is to play, but to block,

913
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a block. It was a blocker

914
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: of a long time, and he could catch the ball.

915
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Speaker 1: Those guys are almost going away. It's almost two positions

916
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: in right, So what do they drafted? They draft a

917
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: pass catching tight end or do they draft a run

918
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Speaker 1: block tight end. You don't raft to run blocking tight

919
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: end in the second round. But if you draft, if

920
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Speaker 1: you went out and got cooked, then maybe you could

921
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: draft a run block and tight end later in the

922
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: later and maybe where the free agency money gets spent

923
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: right outside of quarterback, right quarterback and tight end. Interesting

924
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Speaker 1: stuff is we got a lot of time to discuss

925
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: that over the next few months. Hey, guys, have a

926
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: great rest of the week in Atlanta. Pete, Let's say

927
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: you started like Bessell when you said that, because remember

928
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: during in October when the things start going, I'd always go,

929
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: let's talk fore agency in the draft, and you never

930
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about about the Hall Yeah, no, one way, yeah, right,

931
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: one week at a time. Then we get the November.

932
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: He's guy, Okay, we can talk about it now. Alright.

933
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: So Pete, do you have a lot of money, because

934
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing better to buy votes than cash. Alright,

935
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Speaker 1: I mean there's what we're buying, a couple of votes

936
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937
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938
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: know what, I like Theselly a lot and I want

939
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: to get him in. But if he's buying votes. He's

940
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Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with the cash. You know,

941
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: if he's paying the pr for him, I'll I'll be

942
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: more than happy today. You know, I'm not buying anybody anything.

943
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: And I think the Jaguar should have given you a

944
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: little bundle of cash and said here, any voter that

945
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Speaker 1: needs to have a beer, okay on on the Jaguars,

946
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, unbeknownst to them, here you go. Well we've

947
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: had Tom calling him around the around the so that'll help.

948
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: I think it interesting how convincing he can be that's playing.

949
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: See if he doesn't get in this year, Rob will

950
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: do that next year. She was always good, I know. Alright, guys,

951
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: say Pete, thanks a lot, John, thank you, John Ozar.

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Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe from the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta

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1015
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Speaker 1: up at the proto last week, catching a touchdown in

1016
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Speaker 1: the final seconds. I gotta say that the celebration the

1017
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Speaker 1: attempted dunk over the crossbar was kind of weak. Noted

1018
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Speaker 1: dunker Jeff Lockman. I'm just saying is that he didn't

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1023
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Speaker 1: needs to work on his ups a little bit, because

1024
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Speaker 1: he clearly didn't have enough vertical gain to make the dunk.

1025
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Speaker 1: The dunk good, I'm just saying, I mean it was

1026
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Speaker 1: kind of weak. I mean, he tried to make a

1027
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Speaker 1: dunk and he throws the ball and it literally goes

1028
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: out the tunnel out the back of the end zone

1029
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: on the fly. What do you think of making the

1030
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: catching offense there? I mean it was cool. I mean

1031
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: it makes the Pro Bowl fun and it's not like

1032
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: it's a serious game, so well why not. It's not

1033
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: like he's lining up against the real DV but it

1034
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: But it does beg the question do you do you

1035
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: think about having maybe a package for a guy like

1036
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: Jealen ra Work? Really you're gonna do this? Look, I'm

1037
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: just saying, if he's the fastest guy on the field,

1038
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: which when he plays, does he not look like the

1039
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: fastest guy on the field, it can be. Yeah, Okay,

1040
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: so if he's the fastest guy on the field, then

1041
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: why not maybe line him up at at some point

1042
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: and let him go? Let him run? Okay, alright, look,

1043
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: I would love to see this unlike one of these

1044
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: let touchdown catches? Does J. J. Watt have few that year?

1045
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if somebody's in a great athletic talent,

1046
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: what I mean, why not? Yeah? Mh, I'm just saying that, Hey,

1047
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Speaker 1: let's um Atlanta. You're kind of surprised at your reaction, Like, like,

1048
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Speaker 1: I'm crazy for suggesting that Jalen Ramsey line up and

1049
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Speaker 1: play a wide receiver snap if if if a real

1050
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Speaker 1: corner lines up again to him and james him at

1051
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Speaker 1: the line, what's gonna happen? I mean, wait, maute, is

1052
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Speaker 1: Jealen Ramsey not I know he's one of the greatest

1053
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Speaker 1: athletes in the national football then what what would give

1054
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Speaker 1: you the impression that that's a joke that he could

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Speaker 1: line up at wide receiver. I didn't say it was

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Speaker 1: a joke, no, but your reaction suggested that it was

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Speaker 1: just not a big fan of it. Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 1: rather are all pro corner and play corner. I'll ask Jalen,

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Speaker 1: why do you think that he's a joke at wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: Probably because that was a joke right there, I'll answer,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. We blocked me on Twitter. If you

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Speaker 1: on I don't care, Jay, who cares? Add me to

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Speaker 1: the list? Um, Hey, Atlanta, Georgia side a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty three. Let's take a look at our results of

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Speaker 1: picks this season so far. You guys are both oh

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Speaker 1: and two on Championship weekend. I, on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: was one and one. Oh boy, that was so much better.

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Speaker 1: I got the Patriots. So you're still in last place.

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Speaker 1: So we all picked. And look at your record in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, yeah, look at any of our

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Speaker 1: records in the playoff. We're pretty pathetic. Yeah, I'm three

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Speaker 1: and seven. You're five and five v Silies leading the

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Speaker 1: way at six and four in the playoffs. I know

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Speaker 1: I was owing to last week, Yes, you were. I

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Speaker 1: was not. I was owing two and this week. Uhh.

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are playing their best football at

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Speaker 1: the best time. I mean, think about what they've been

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Speaker 1: able to do to to put it to the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Now they're at home, but then to go on the

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Speaker 1: road and face an explosive Kansas City Chiefs defense, and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots defense played light out to start that game,

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Speaker 1: lights out, and for them to get to win in

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Speaker 1: a hostile environment like kans City with a hot young

1084
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Speaker 1: quarterback unbelievable. And I mean the Patriots are playing their

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Speaker 1: best football at the best time they could possibly be

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Speaker 1: doing it. That now the Rams, but if d Ford's

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Speaker 1: on side, then they lose the game. Maybe yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: not have been over but here, but here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong? What? What are you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: D Ford? That had to be the dumbest penalty that

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Speaker 1: happened maybe all season for defensive lineman to not be

1092
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Speaker 1: able to line up on side, that's embarrassing. But the

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Speaker 1: Saints came into that championship game not playing great football

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Speaker 1: on offense, not playing their best football, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the Rams kind of snuck out of there, obviously with

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Speaker 1: the controversial non qual at the end of that ball game.

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Speaker 1: And uh, Golf, I don't think is playing what he

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Speaker 1: was playing like earlier in the year. Talk Gurley. Obviously

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Speaker 1: he's not playing like he was earlier in the year.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Rams are getting by but they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not at their peak or playing their best football

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Speaker 1: right now right And I think the Patriots win it,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a great game. But

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots winning experience in this level certainly helps. Also,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have been there so many times. And I

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Speaker 1: think the other thing, too is what's the conversation been

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Speaker 1: for the Rams for the last week and a half.

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Speaker 1: So far, it's been about the note call, and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to justify their their existence in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: whereas the Patriots all they're doing is concentrating on moving

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Speaker 1: ahead and one another super Bowl. I've got the Patriots

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Speaker 1: as well, clean sweep for us here basely, Logovan Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: I'll have the Patriots six thirty kickoff time Atlanta for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty three. Should be a good one game.

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Speaker 1: Logs will talk to you next week maybe if maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll be there. Okay, I'm always here on Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: Selly is the one that's never here. And if he

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Speaker 1: gets selected a Hall of Fame, does he get like

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Speaker 1: multiple weeks off? Maybe? So we'll see you next week.

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