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Speaker 2: Sixteen thousand dollars you know that's the estimate sitting on

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Speaker 2: my desk this week for a twenty twenty one Shiitvy

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Speaker 2: Tahoe with just the aout one hundred five thousand miles

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Speaker 2: on it. Ten speed automatic transmission had failed, and it

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Speaker 2: was a nice truck, family owned, clean, well maintained and

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Speaker 2: Now the owner is my customer standing at the counter

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Speaker 2: with two repair estimates, and one of them was sixteen

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And I said to him, I said, this

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Speaker 2: sounds more like home remodeling than it does auto repair.

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Speaker 2: I just had to say it three times, sixteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I paid for one of my

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Speaker 2: kids to go to college for a semester. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: before you start thinking, hey, this is just another story

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Speaker 2: about expensive orto repair, you know, let me add the twist,

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Speaker 2: all right, because this is what really got my attention.

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Speaker 2: The customer had come to us after visiting two different

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Speaker 2: Chevrolet dealers looking for answers, not one dealer too, And

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Speaker 2: by the time they got to my shop, it really

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Speaker 2: wasn't about the transmission anymore. It was really about trust.

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Speaker 2: It was about it was about fear, and it was

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Speaker 2: about trying to make the least or best wrong financial

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Speaker 2: decison impossible. You know, which way do you go? Because

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Speaker 2: one transmission repair was quote was sixteen thousand dollars and

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Speaker 2: the other one was eight. You know, I really understand

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be a consumer today. I'm a consumer.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy auder repair, but I buy everything else.

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Speaker 2: You know, you buy a vehicle that, in this case,

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Speaker 2: this twenty one Tahoe new was about eighty three thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: just eighty three thousand dollars. You say, I'm just you know,

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Speaker 2: you feel like Jack Benny. Spending money leaves a bad

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Speaker 2: taste in your mouth. You know, you do all the

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Speaker 2: right things. You maintain it, you do the oil changes,

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Speaker 2: you take care of it, You try to take care

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Speaker 2: of it. You follow all the manufacturers recommended services, and

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Speaker 2: then some and then just past one hundred and five

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Speaker 2: thousand mile marks. So it's out of warranty, it's out

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Speaker 2: of the extended warranty. It's out of warranty altogether. The transpukes,

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Speaker 2: and you're hearing these numbers like eight, ten, twelve, sixteen

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You know, at some point, I think the

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Speaker 2: average person stops hearing reasons why and technical information and

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Speaker 2: they just begin to panic. And I get it, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened here. The first dealer recommended

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Speaker 2: complete replacement of the transmission assembly, just a brand new assembly,

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Speaker 2: and rightfully so. GMS had more than their fair share

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Speaker 2: of problems the GM ten speed transmission, just as a

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Speaker 2: point of context. And note the GM ten speed and

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Speaker 2: from the same place. They're once patterned after the other.

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Speaker 2: And the four to ten speed problems they're having in

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Speaker 2: the pickup trucks and their trucks is no secret. Well,

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Speaker 2: the GM ten speed is right behind it. The first

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Speaker 2: dealer sixteen thousand dollars change everything, and by the time

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Speaker 2: he added up labor, programming fluid labor, I said labor twice.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's because it seems like it's a lot of labor.

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Speaker 2: It was sixteen grand. The second dealer took a slightly

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Speaker 2: different angle. Repair portions of the transmission, replace fail components,

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Speaker 2: put a couple of updated GM parts, and it things

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Speaker 2: that you know, reliability improvements that have come out over time.

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Speaker 2: The problem areas quote unquote and that estimates eight thousand.

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Speaker 2: Still painful, right, but it's half the price. And now

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Speaker 2: the customer is completely confused, and they're standing in front

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Speaker 2: of me asking the million dollar question, wwrd ron, what

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting and I say this because you and I

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Speaker 2: and I can share it with you. The older I

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Speaker 2: get in this business, the less people come in asking

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Speaker 2: And I've realized they're not just buying parts anymore. They're

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Speaker 2: not buying repairs. What you guys are doing when you

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Speaker 2: buying you're buying interpretation. To a large degree, you're buying experience,

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Speaker 2: all right, Because this particular trans, the GM tense Speed Automatic,

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Speaker 2: a dead cat, and I don't mean to offend my

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Speaker 2: cat owners with complaints and concerns and harp shifting and

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Speaker 2: valve body failures and torque converter issues and all sorts

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Speaker 2: of things that make you go, oh my god, this

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Speaker 2: thing's a piece of junk. There are forums, there are videos,

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Speaker 2: there's lawsuits. I just saw a lawsuit conversation out in

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Speaker 2: over the ten speed trans The list of technical bulletins

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Speaker 2: for the GM tense Speed it's like reading war and peace.

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Speaker 2: There's that many of them. It just goes on forever.

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Speaker 2: There's updates, there's revis you name it, brother, it's garbage.

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Speaker 2: But you know, let me be fair, all right, the

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Speaker 2: Internet tends to make every problem look like apocalypse. All right.

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Speaker 2: There's millions of these transmissions out there, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of them operate perfectly fine. But the failures when they occur,

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Speaker 2: and repair shops know the pattern. Transmission shops know the pattern,

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Speaker 2: and by now you the consumer, you guys definitely know

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Speaker 2: the pattern. When the transmissions fail, it's expensive. It's like,

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Speaker 2: holy shmoley, when did this become the price of this

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Speaker 2: sound like my father, but when this become the price

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Speaker 2: of my first house? Not really, but close. Some people

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Speaker 2: think there's going to be a recall, which there will

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Speaker 2: be probably ten years after the last ones off the road,

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Speaker 2: so the GM has to pay less or there'll be

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Speaker 2: some kind of legal action tied to these units. But

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Speaker 2: right now, there's no blanket coverage, there's no warranty extension,

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Speaker 2: there's no magic, there's no free pass. And this particular case,

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Speaker 2: this Tahoe transmission failure, this belongs to the owner. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's your truck. You bought it, you drove it, you

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Speaker 2: broke it. You fix it. And this is where today's

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Speaker 2: show really starts, because the biggest change in the automotive

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Speaker 2: vehicles keeps climbing at a stratospheric rate. The rate of

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Speaker 2: the automotive world is the psychology of ownership. You know,

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Speaker 2: you think about it. Thirty years ago, if your transmission failed,

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Speaker 2: It was in the discussion. The repair sort of hurt financially,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't emotionally paralyzing. It wasn't overwhelming. Today, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: You are paying five six seven California eight dollars a

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Speaker 2: gallon gasoline. You're paying more for groceries, You're paying more

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Speaker 2: for everything. You're trying to put your kids through college.

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Speaker 2: You're paying the mortgage, the roof, the rent. Oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, your transmission needs to be replaced. Sixteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That clunk you heard was the person hitting the floor.

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Speaker 2: Consumers are overwhelmed. You just are and it's bad. Today's

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Speaker 2: vehicles are so technologically advanced and so expensive. Every repair

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Speaker 2: feels like a life decision, and that's part of what

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Speaker 2: it's about. Do you fix it? Do you trade it?

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Speaker 2: Who'd buy it? Who trade it? Who would take it?

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Speaker 2: Will it fail again if I get it fixed? And

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Speaker 2: is this the beginning of endless problems? Do I trust

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Speaker 2: the repair? Do I trust the diagnosis? Do I trust

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Speaker 2: the dealer? Do I trust the independent shop? Do I

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Speaker 2: trust the Internet? And I understand why you guys struggle,

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: This Tahoe owner did exactly what I think consumers should

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Speaker 2: do with major repairs. They got multiple opinions, not because

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Speaker 2: someone's dishonest necessarily, and not because this is to be expected,

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Speaker 2: but because different shops approach repairs differently. One facility just

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Speaker 2: believed in completing and replacing the whole assembly, it minimizes

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Speaker 2: the comeback risk. Another said, hey, let's do a targeted

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Speaker 2: repair and updated components and we'll be a little more conservative.

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Speaker 2: And in the end, because I called that particular dealership,

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Speaker 2: to put it, the answer was they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: scare the consumer off and they've had reasonably successful luck,

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Speaker 2: not perfect luck or perfect results doing it that way,

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Speaker 2: but they're more likely to get the job and more

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Speaker 2: likely to get the consumer to that transmission to go

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Speaker 2: another two years till it's out of warranty. And that's

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Speaker 2: a whole conversation onto itself. The warranty doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: Is what's projected life. You know what this does. It

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Speaker 2: highlights how complicated modern cars and the modern car repair

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Speaker 2: business has become. And here's something else nobody really talks

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Speaker 2: about enough. The customer isn't paying for a part. You

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Speaker 2: guys aren't paying for a repair. It's managed risk. And

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Speaker 2: I've said this a lot at the counter over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years. I noticed I'm explaining to people.

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to try and sell you a repair.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to explain to you managed expectations. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to give you a reasonable facsimile of what I think

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Speaker 2: is going to happen. And there's that experience thing again.

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Speaker 2: When you repair a modern transmission, you're just not changing

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Speaker 2: gears and clutches in hard parts. You're dealing with software calibration,

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Speaker 2: you're dealing with learning strategies, valve body tolerances that are

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Speaker 2: measured in microscopic clearances. Think it's he bitsy tiny parts.

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Speaker 2: You make one wrong move, the trans shifts poorly, the

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Speaker 2: trans has to come out again, and it's time loss

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Speaker 2: for the repair shop and the consumer. One thing wrong

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Speaker 2: when a little bit of dirt causes breakdown of a

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Speaker 2: verge of failing. Does maintenance matter? Yeah, it absolutely does.

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Speaker 2: Trans Fluid matters, heat matters, service intervals, how you drive it,

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Speaker 2: what you do with it? Are you towing? But even

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Speaker 2: well maintained vehicles fail. And that's really that's really the

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Speaker 2: tip of the sword, and that's what you have to remember.

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Speaker 2: Let me pull over, take this pause. We're going to

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Speaker 2: continue this conversation throughout the hour. I'm Ron Anany and

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Speaker 2: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we'll continue with the sixteen thousand dollars Tahoe right after.

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Speaker 2: We talked to Billy in Colorado. Billy, welcome back, sir.

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Speaker 2: What's going on today?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Ron?

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Speaker 5: How are you doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 5: A friend of mine has a two thousand and eight

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Speaker 5: Suzuki Grand Vitara and the lower intermediate steering shaft stripped

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Speaker 5: the splines and was spinning freely on the rack. He

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Speaker 5: sent me a video of him spinning the steering wheel

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Speaker 5: to the right like one hundred times. I'm like, oive,

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Speaker 5: all right, you're gonna eat a clock spring.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: And so what I'm wondering is, while I'm in there, well,

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Speaker 5: that also mess with the steering angle sensor.

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Speaker 2: Well, the steering angle sensor is physically attached to the

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Speaker 2: clock spring. At one point, you could buy them separately.

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Speaker 2: Are you are you replacing the clock spring? Have you

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Speaker 2: bought a new clock spring yet? Have you found a

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: One of the one of the hard things about working

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Speaker 5: Do you the dashboards lit up?

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Speaker 2: It is okay?

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Speaker 2: Is it lit up because of what he did? Or

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Speaker 5: I know I'm still waiting for a shaft that's going

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Speaker 2: Right, there's the and and there's what I was saying,

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Speaker 2: You know it is it one of thirty six possibilities

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Speaker 2: But even so, even if it's only on one way,

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked, Billy, you stand the chance.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you just hope that it doesn't break

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then you know, when you put it together, you're just

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Speaker 2: Right, and see where you go from there. All right, kiddo,

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, You're very welcome, sir, anytime. Good luck. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: She goes, no, I've never noticed a knee. I've owned

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Speaker 2: that was technologically beyond her. And you know, Billy's talking

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Speaker 2: It's difficult. It really is, so, you know what, more

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Speaker 2: it's the compass eight five five five six out nine

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Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: From the city street.

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Speaker 2: To the Oven Rule tonight. If you run his head,

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Speaker 2: Ron will keep your right. Yeah, he's a car doctor,

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Speaker 2: car advist. Hey, let's get over and talk to Louis

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Speaker 2: and Iowa fourteen hybrid Cemax. Louis, Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 2: How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Ron? Twenty fourteen Cemax Energy had a just

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Speaker 3: shy of a month. How can I keep that main

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Speaker 3: the manuals, the battery pack is supposed to last as

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Speaker 2: Or fall? Well, it lasts until it doesn't, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a twelve year old vehicle here, Louis,

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Speaker 2: and you know any twelve year old vehicle probably needs

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Speaker 2: as they'll be as good as they can be for

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Speaker 2: as long as they can be, and there's not a

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Speaker 2: There really isn't. I will say that. I will say

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Speaker 2: because that is the future, all right. The ev future

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Speaker 2: that we're going to see, you you know, developed even

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Speaker 3: I thought it was time for me to get a hybrid,

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Speaker 3: but aout one hundred and fifty six thousand miles on it.

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Speaker 3: I just had to transmission fluid checked by the dealer yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Thought the fluid to look good. But I don't have

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Speaker 3: much history on this car, right, I'm out of Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: All right, what'd you pay for it.

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Speaker 3: Thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you bought a thirty five hundred dollars used

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Speaker 2: now watch this. You bought a thirty five hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: you did. You bought it. You bought it for ten

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Speaker 3: So the list, the sticker price is thirty three thousand.

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Speaker 3: On this the sticker came with the car, right, original sticker.

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Speaker 2: That's also that's also thirty three thousand dollars twelve years ago. Right,

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Speaker 2: things have gone up a little bit. Yeah, things have

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Speaker 2: gone up a little bit. So if we were at

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with the car? And I said, hey, louis

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Speaker 2: the battery filled? You need a battery? It's it's nine grand.

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Speaker 3: All right, and about that much to put it in.

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Speaker 3: And I guess there's a you need a special jacket's

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's let's well, yeah, yeah, it's all true. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're you guys are driving and we're working on them.

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Speaker 2: They're rocket ships. So let's say it's fifteen grand to

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Speaker 2: make that thirty five hundred dollars car. We're roadworthy again, right?

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Speaker 2: Is it worth it? It depends did the battery? Does

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Speaker 2: you just got this car this week late April?

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Speaker 3: Okay, bought the twenty ninth of April. I bought it

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Speaker 2: So let's see, thirty five hundred, that's seven So if

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Speaker 2: this car makes it to December and you do zero

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Speaker 2: broke even. I hate to say it, you broke even.

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Speaker 2: That's five hundred a month. Right. What are you going

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Speaker 3: Not very much? Boy? Right?

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Speaker 2: See, how'd you like to be that person that I

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Speaker 2: transmission in the Chevy Tahoe.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, I missed that. I guess the good thing I

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Speaker 3: missed it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have. I would have. I would have.

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Speaker 2: I would have given you a heart attack. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's but you know what's it's miles. It's miles

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Speaker 2: to get smiles. We see this all the time, all right.

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Speaker 2: I have this number that I seem to It just

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Speaker 2: seems to work. You buy what you like, all right,

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Speaker 2: You buy new vehicle, regardless of price, something you know,

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Speaker 2: seventy thousand dollars or less. After it's three years old.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the number is you will average one

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Speaker 2: We just had an oh nine f one fifty, been

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Speaker 2: number three eighty and three eighty one. They were twins

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Speaker 2: The truck is mechanically perfect body wise, it's a perfect vehicle.

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Speaker 2: It's a resta it's not a restoration. It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: and fifty. That's perfect. Drive anywhere you want, go anywhere

433
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: you want. We added it up, We did the math.

434
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: He put like one hundred and seventy bucks into the month.

435
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: Where are you going to get that in a vehicle today?

436
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: You can so long story short, you're hybrid, all right,

437
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: drive it, don't worry about it, enjoy it. Start putting

438
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: money away, all right. If you're on a limited budget,

439
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: you still need to put money away. You need an

440
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: O fund. Okay, uh oh that broke right, And yep,

441
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: everybody needs an O fund. So other than that, Either

442
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: that or you're just gonna drive this car until it

443
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: stops stops working. And like I said, if you get

444
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: to December, you broke even you did good.

445
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: That's not too bad. Sounds pretty urging. The December is

446
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: not just too far off.

447
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Right, right, Sandy Cluse will bring you a nice surprise.

448
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: He'll bring you in he'll bring you a car that's

449
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 2: still working. And you know what, I bet you were

450
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: having this conversation a year from now.

451
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: Okay, and but one more thing that this touch screen

452
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: has failed and the audio is zero. It failed a

453
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: week ago, Sundy.

454
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, okay, here's here's the curve. Here's the curve

455
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: into the budget. Go ahead. Yes, so we've got to

456
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: get it diagnosed, right, which means modular.

457
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: That screen is bad.

458
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, the module. The screen is part of a module.

459
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: There's three components usually here all right, there's the screen itself,

460
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: which is which is the main control head. Think of

461
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: that as like your computer monitor. Then behind that computer

462
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: monitor or that screen, there's a module, and then there's

463
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: a cable that connects the two. Ok So it's got

464
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: to be diagnosed. First thing, we're gonna go and pull code.

465
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: We're going to go look and see what failed. I've

466
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: seen the control head fail, I've seen the module fail.

467
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: I've seen the cable connection become tattered and frazzled over time.

468
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: Isn't that's something so gable? I guess we'll find out

469
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: next week.

470
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: Right, it could be anything from the it could be any.

471
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: Forwenty radios in the vehicle that makes any.

472
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: Different factory This is a factory radio correct, right right? Yeah,

473
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: it could be anything from a two hundred dollars cable

474
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: to one thousand dollars module. Start start, start adding your

475
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: dollars up one hundred and fifty to one hundred and

476
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: eighty a month, remember that number.

477
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: I better go to the bank tomorrow, all right, won't

478
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: be open tomorrow. All right? Well, what I used to

479
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: arrive Nissan rogues? I called you about five W thirty

480
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: oil that they put in a Nissan Rogue I think

481
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: at twenty sixteen at the dealer, and the book said,

482
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: ow twenty I called you on that, but they wouldn't

483
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: do anything about it, and I traded that rogue off.

484
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, listen every every Bahanda CRV, which is

485
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: a very nice car.

486
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: But I sold that and bought this Ford Cmax. It's

487
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: a very nice running car, wonderful car to drive.

488
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: What'd you do for a living, Louis, Louis.

489
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: To raise a two cattle farming?

490
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

491
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: I could. I could tell you sound like a farmer,

492
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: my friend. Yeah, you're you're, you're, you're practical and down

493
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: to earth. Oh I get it, all right, kid, listen.

494
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy to I'm happy, happy to have you as

495
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: part of the Car Doctor crew. You call us back

496
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: if you need more, and uh enjoy your hybrid. Just

497
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: take it and get it diagnosed and ask all the

498
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: right questions when they tell you what it is. Your

499
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: only question is will that fix my vehicle? That's all

500
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: you want to hear? Yes or no? Calls back, let

501
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: us know what happens. I'm r on an Indy in

502
00:26:50,000 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: the Car Doctor. We'll return right after this. Hey, let's

503
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: go over and talk at Greg and Florida. Greg. Welcome

504
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: to the Car Doctor, sir. What's going on?

505
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah? Thank you?

506
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Welcome.

507
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: I have a twenty fourteen and Pala Limited. Okay, I

509
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: bought it almost three years ago. When ever since I

510
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: got it there, I didn't think the air conditioned cooled

511
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: as well as it should, all right, but it got

512
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 4: me by up until this week. I decided to put

513
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: a can of refriger in in it, and I did,

514
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: and after that it doesn't hardly get It got worse

515
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 4: after I put the refriger in in it.

516
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: All right, So where do we begin?

517
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Right?

518
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

519
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so and you know this generation compressor has

520
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: it's a variable displacement compressor, meaning that this is like

521
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: the guy carrying the piano upstairs. The heavier the piano

522
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: gets it gets or the piano gets heavier, the closer

523
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: to the top of the stairs. So it can work stronger,

524
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: it can work harder. It's a strong enough little guy. Well,

525
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: the compressor is sort of the same way. It can

526
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: vary its output based on load. All right, they do

527
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: that by Actually, if we were to measure the AC

528
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: compressor's output, let's think of it like this, cubic feet

529
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: per minuted. How much air can a compressor draw in

530
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: and push out. The hotter it gets, it can increase

531
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: the cubic feet per minute air flow based on demand. Now,

532
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: what would happen with these is they get stuck, depending

533
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: upon where they get stuck. You know, ge whiz, it's

534
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: always too colder. It seems like it's working too hard,

535
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 2: or it's not working hard enough. And you see some

536
00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: funny results to compound your problem. Do you you own

537
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: a set of regular pressure gauges or are you just

538
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: adding refrigerant?

539
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have a gauge.

540
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're racing horses and you just gave the

541
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: horse a vitamin B twelve shot to make it run faster,

542
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: and you don't know if that's what it needs, right right?

543
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Fair point?

544
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: Well yeah, since I you know, I had an eleven

545
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: and it had the best air conditioner I ever saw.

546
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: In it right, well, because the compressor was working correctly

547
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: or the system was working correctly. Listen, this can be

548
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: repaired now by the same token. You know, we don't

549
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: know do we have a blend door that's stuck? Okay?

550
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, anytime anybody has a problem with air conditioning,

551
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: we always assume, which is a dangerous word, Oh, I

552
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: must need refrigerant. But what if you ever ever well, no, no,

553
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: you're in Floridas. This may not be a correct question.

554
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: But I've come home a few times where they've had

555
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: the air conditioning on and the heat on because they

556
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: forget and the two systems fight each other. So in Florida,

557
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll get that. But sometimes you'll

558
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: have a car where the temperature blend or even though

559
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: it's set to cold, doesn't quite make it all the

560
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: way over. You know what I'm talking about When I

561
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: say temperature blend door, Greg, yeah, it.

562
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: Thumps sometimes. It didn't do that when I first got.

563
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: It, but it okay, so you know, are we getting

564
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: correct swing? We can look at all this. We really

565
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: sort of need a scan tool, all right. We a

566
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: good scan tool would be able to put the sweet

567
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: put put the blend doors through a sweep test. Do

568
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: we see them go from zero to two twenty four

569
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: whatever the max ranges on a twenty fourteen? Do we

570
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: have a compressor issue? And one of the tests we

571
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: would do is to put a set of pressure gauges

572
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: high and low side and look at pressure and then

573
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: disconnect down on the compressor. There's going to be a

574
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: two wire connector with a blue and a blue light green.

575
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: That is the that is the variable displacement solenoid. If

576
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: we disconnect that, we could look at pressure. Does the

577
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: pressure drop? Does the compressor go to minimum output? If

578
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: it does well, then the compressor is good. We can

579
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: look elsewhere, you know, if if you want, you know

580
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: what's what's common. Compressors are common, and thermal expansion valves

581
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: are common. But you're gonna need to set u pressure

582
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: gauges to really look for it and see what it

583
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: does for you. Let me ask you this question and

584
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: we can eliminate the temperature of the blend door. If

585
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: you start the car up cold, does the AC still stink?

586
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: It never has stump.

587
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Not smell wise, just poor performance. If you start this

588
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: car up stone cold, turn the air on, is it cold?

589
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: Uh no?

590
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: Ever since I got it it didn't get all right.

591
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Then you know, if if within the first minute you

592
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: don't get cold there before the engine warms up, I'm

593
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: going to tell you probably don't have a blend door

594
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: temp problem issue because engine heat isn't there right. If so,

595
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: you can, you can likely eliminate that. I would be

596
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: looking hard at I want to want to know what

597
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: system pressures are. For all we know right now it's overcharged,

598
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: and i'd want to know what system pressures are. And

599
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: I'd want to be doing some testing of the AC compressor,

600
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: like I said, the variable displacement solenoid and taking a

601
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: look if it passes that minimum output test again, you

602
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: need a scan tool, you know, then take a look

603
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: at the thermal expansion valve. What are we missing there? You

604
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: got some testing to do, Greg, You got to find

605
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: somebody else that can do it if you can't, but

606
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: definitely repairable and it could be expensive. It could be

607
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: you know, inexpensive. Got to do some tests first, Kiddle,

608
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm running dy in the car. Doctor. We're back right

609
00:32:41,920 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: after this. Hey, you know, we started this hour talking

610
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: about ten speed, GM transmissions and tahoes for sixteen thousand dollars,

611
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: and I told you i'd finish this story.

612
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: You know.

613
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: I think what frustrates you guys the most today is

614
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: you feel like you're beta testers for the cars you're

615
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: buying that you're paying a lot of money for, and

616
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: you do right. Think about it. Ten speed transmissions, cylinder deactivation,

617
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: turbo charging, start stop systems, adaptive suspensions, radar crews, control

618
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: lane assist, these massive entertainment infotainment systems. Modern vehicles are incredible.

619
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: They really are. They're truly incredible. You put somebody in

620
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: a car from the sixties with a big engine, loud

621
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: exhaust on a four speed. Never mind, they can't drive

622
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: the four speed. They can't steer it, they can't control it,

623
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: they can't use the brakes. They're completely baffled. Complexity costs money.

624
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: What did I tell this customer with the tahoe. I

625
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: told them the truth. The vehicle overall was clean and

626
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: it was valuable enough. They still needed the vehicle. They

627
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: still needed a tahoe. I told him to fix it.

628
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: I told him spend the sixteen grand, best warranty, best longevity.

629
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: Because here's the perspective. You either make car payments or

630
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: you make repair payments. Pick your poison. I'm running any

631
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: in the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless.

632
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: See you, baby, He he's a car doctor. Car advice

633
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: to write