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Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's Up? And welcome to another Atlanta Falcons podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Tarren Walk and Tarren. Free agency

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Speaker 1: is right around the corner. You know. It's it's mid February.

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Speaker 1: We've got a month until the start of the new

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Speaker 1: league year, and so our minds have started shifting towards,

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Speaker 1: you know, who could be incoming for this Falcons roster

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Speaker 1: and what positions might they address. I think the top

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Speaker 1: of anybody's list is going to start with the address position,

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Speaker 1: right Like that is continually, I feel like the main

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Speaker 1: thing each off season that fans and media like point

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Speaker 1: to when it comes to the Atlanta Falcons. So fittingly,

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Speaker 1: you just had a great piece go up on Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcons dot com naming five edge rushers in free agency

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Speaker 1: you can make sense for the Falcons. That's what we're

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Speaker 1: here to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: I mean I said it in the lead New Year,

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Speaker 2: same problem. Like yep, this was a conversation we were

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Speaker 2: having a year ago of who could the Falcons bring

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Speaker 2: in to fix the edge rusher absence the fact that

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Speaker 2: they are not getting to the quarterback in the way

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Speaker 2: they want to. I mean, the Falcons were second to

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Speaker 2: last in sacks last year there was a great equality

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Speaker 2: in the numbering because they were thirty first in the

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Speaker 2: league with thirty one overall sacks. And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it makes your job easy, symmetry. But yes, I did

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Speaker 2: make a list, but checked it twice. No, I just

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Speaker 2: sent it to you check.

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Speaker 1: Are we going to know which of these guys are

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Speaker 1: naughty or nice? Tearing list making one oh one?

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Speaker 2: All who wha, wha whah, we are out of that season.

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Speaker 2: And if it snows in Atlanta again, I'm gonna blame you.

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Speaker 1: It's cold enough outside. It's like twenty seven degrees out

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Speaker 1: there right now. But yeah, so we are about to

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Speaker 1: run through those five free agents. But we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot coming on the network over the next you know,

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Speaker 1: several weeks again mentioned free agency. We're head of the combine.

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Speaker 1: Next weekend, I'm going to have a ton of interviews

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Speaker 1: from Indy with Terry Fonto, with Rahee Morris and a

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Speaker 1: lot of national media members. So make sure that you

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Speaker 1: guys are hitting that subscribe button, whether it be on YouTube, Spotify, Apple,

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Speaker 1: wherever you like to get your Atlanta Falcons podcast content.

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Speaker 1: So with that said, let's go ahead and get into

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Speaker 1: the number one player, or the first player, not the

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Speaker 1: number one player. These aren't in any order. But you

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Speaker 1: have Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 2: Yes, explained, thirty three year old who played for the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers last season, and he has just been

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Speaker 2: having an incredible career overall, but especially these last few years,

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Speaker 2: especially at thirty three years old. He'll be thirty four

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Speaker 2: when the season starts. That gosh, he had a team

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Speaker 2: high seventeen sacks in twenty twenty three, six sacks in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. But the fact that his last double

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Speaker 2: digit season had been in twenty eighteen when he was

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, and now he's doing it again in his

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Speaker 2: thirties just makes me excited for my thirties first of all.

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Speaker 1: But your best years are still ahead ahead of me.

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Speaker 3: And it's just.

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Speaker 2: He's an exciting player. I don't I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: a one stop shop that can fix all the problems

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Speaker 2: that Falcons have when it comes to the pass rush.

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Speaker 2: But he's a start because he has so much experience.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit of what the Falcons

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Speaker 2: wanted in Matthew Judon last year because Matthew had a

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Speaker 2: lot of big sax season, double digit seasons with the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and it just didn't come to fruition in Atlanta last year.

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Speaker 2: So when it comes to Khalil Mack, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: his record and just how he's able to still produce.

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Speaker 3: At a high clip.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to call him old, because thirty

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Speaker 2: three years old in the grand scheme things isn't old,

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Speaker 2: but in the NFL world and dog years, essentially he's old,

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Speaker 2: but he's still killing it. So that experience could be great,

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Speaker 2: especially when you have a room with younger people like

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Speaker 2: Arnold Abakhetti, who was starting to find his footing a

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Speaker 2: lot more last year, especially towards the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: to learn from someone like that. Yeah, issue with him,

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Speaker 2: the Falcons can't afford him right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, like that is going to be the

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Speaker 3: Like too expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just kind of want to sit here and say,

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Speaker 1: like all of these guys are pipe dreams, just because

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Speaker 1: last two seasons. Yeah, he's thirty three years old, but

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Speaker 3: Down really well at all, right.

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Speaker 1: So he is probably the big fish that all teams

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Speaker 1: But he would be a great mentor to come in

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Speaker 2: Brailan I should have mentioned Berlin Trice. I'm excited for

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Speaker 2: to see him healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be a big one, almost an

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack would be huge. He would be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a pipe dream so let's go ahead and

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Speaker 3: That is still kind of a pipe dream, still.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you know that there's still shopping outside of

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Speaker 2: my budget. There's a theme out of the Falcons budget.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like we can relate now. Our budgets

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Speaker 1: You never did that, like in elementary school when they

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Speaker 3: That's my regular life.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. So, yeah, you've got Josh Wett. That's

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Speaker 2: Player, just coming off a super Bowl win, not just

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Speaker 2: If they hadn't done, if he hadn't done what he

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Speaker 2: I he's just another one who's consistently had some success,

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Speaker 2: looking up for this list, it's like there were other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like Hassan Redick is there, and then

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's really beneficial to have all that extra help

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Speaker 1: how he does. But he definitely has the pedigree as

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Speaker 2: So eight secks led the team, So that just goes

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Speaker 1: And with Vic Dangio there this past year in Philly.

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Speaker 1: I'm really growing on this player and it's Chase Young.

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Speaker 1: So explain to me why you have Chase Young written down.

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Speaker 2: I think he's someone they can possibly afford with a

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Speaker 2: little maneuvering because he doesn't have that background where it's

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Speaker 2: he had seven and a half sacks again for the

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Speaker 2: same team, for like one team, is what I mean.

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Speaker 2: do now? What can he build off from here? Now

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Speaker 2: that he is healthy? Can he stay healthy and with

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Speaker 2: This could be this band aid could turn into a

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Speaker 1: It could just be a long term solution, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your your rental car is turning into alone Yep.

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Speaker 1: I love that. So yeah, like Chase Young. Also there's

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Speaker 1: I think that he is a great player to have

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Speaker 2: The Falcons have plucked from the Saints defense as of late. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pretty successful, might be a charm, I would say. The

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Speaker 1: all right, So the fourth player you've got is josh Ucha.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about him.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like he's not a big name again,

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Speaker 2: Realistic option because I look back to like his time

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Speaker 2: you didn't like my phrasing of the number two sacker,

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Behind Matthew Judon, who came to Atlanta, as we have

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Speaker 2: turnaroundish and so but with ouch, he's.

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Speaker 3: Younger twenty six yep, yep, twenty six years old.

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Speaker 2: I feel old any time I call these people who

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Speaker 2: six years younger than Matthew Judon. So maybe this is

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Speaker 2: like take two with stealing from the Patriots success of

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Speaker 2: double digit sackers. You went with number one. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Know, we're just we're trying to add We're trying to

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Speaker 1: add something to the dictionary. So I hope websters, you

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Speaker 1: guys are watching.

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Speaker 2: I think he can still be a great sack producer

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Speaker 2: because he had eleven and a half sacks in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, which was only his third year in the league.

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Speaker 2: It was the only one behind Matthew dow Donna has

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Speaker 2: already said number two sacker, I will one day mature.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it is so ingrained in your brain

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Speaker 3: It's just funny.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you tell somebody don't think about an elephant,

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Speaker 1: and then they can only think about an elephant. That's

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Speaker 2: It didn't make the story so the people have to

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. Now we just had this conversation. So that's

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Speaker 2: why this is funny, and no one else might find

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Speaker 1: I find it hilarious.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I just this is a potential pick kind

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Speaker 2: has shown flashes of success before and maybe now he

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Speaker 2: can do so again. He's younger, as I've already said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It just it's a more of a

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Speaker 2: it's a risk of it. It's trying to go to

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Speaker 2: TJ Max and find a Lulu Lemon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Afford it at the store itself, so you're going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're hoping maybe, like if you get it,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be like I saw that at TJ Max.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's got nobody's gonna You're just gonna walk out and

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Speaker 1: be like, man, I got this as a steal.

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Speaker 3: Steal he suckers could be a steal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could be. But like there's risk, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: Lest last season isn't great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like outside of that eleven and a half sax season,

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Speaker 1: the best example of a situational pass rusher that you

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Speaker 1: in terms of just like eating up blocks to then

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Speaker 1: going and paying for a closer, right. But the Falcons

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Speaker 1: do need one of those. And if you hit like

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Speaker 1: if we have a free agent option in house that

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just hurt, but to you like the

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Speaker 2: this guy has been here for a while now, like

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Speaker 2: you almost know what he's capable of. You know his

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Speaker 2: than around someone you can't afford, like we already said

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Speaker 2: the Khalil Mack. So if you have to make I

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Speaker 1: You want the whole to be greater than the sum

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Speaker 1: of the individual parts, right like that, that's what you

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Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, so you've got Lorenzo Carter as this last

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Speaker 1: because his sack totals have decreased since he's been in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: He wrote his name down and then I saw that,

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Speaker 1: But it's it's not always all about sees. And I

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Speaker 1: But like I saw him a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: I will take that every single day and twice on Sunday. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's do that. So for the familiarity and the continuity

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Speaker 1: so he makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you think so.

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Speaker 2: After the whole preface of you didn't pick who everyone

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Speaker 3: I need him back in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, so we're not even going to spoil that.

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Speaker 1: When you guys are gonna have to wait and see

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Speaker 1: on that. Were there any other edge rushers as you

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Speaker 2: Hassan Reddick, who you already mentioned. But the only reason

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Speaker 1: Mac price tag.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also he's like old hat when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. We've been talking about Hassan Reddick for

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Speaker 1: the last two off seasons. We've had enough of Hassan

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Speaker 1: Reddick conversation. Watch him be the one that ends up here. Sorry, sorry, Hossan.

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Speaker 2: Just looking at like the list now. Jared Reid, former

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I got to stand up. You love it.

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Speaker 1: You love a Tide player, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Marcus Davenport would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Another former Saints player who I covered but spent last

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I think he might be too expensive. But they have

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Speaker 1: He he's that dude's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is he's like kaydenell Is two

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Speaker 2: the Mario Davis is just apparently growing into a great line.

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Speaker 1: Back, ultimate incubator. Yeah, it's just like learn under him

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Speaker 2: Kaiden Ellis Now Zach Bond, it's like who all right,

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Speaker 3: And get him later?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at uh. I think Malcolm Koons, who

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Speaker 2: Turner to no passing on both New Orleans guys again

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Speaker 2: the who I covered.

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Speaker 1: But you just you love to see the Saints migration

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Speaker 2: And it's not even the Saints migration, it's I remember

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Speaker 2: those who I covered because we were talking about this

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Speaker 2: this podcast was involved in and editorial roles, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I just get involved in the team that I'm covering, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's you, It's impossible.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 2: And so these are why these names sound so familiar.

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Speaker 2: Jack Thompson from Carolina. I need to get out of

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Speaker 2: the NFC South.

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Speaker 1: Azizo Jhalari was a player again last year. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people were were looking at from an Atlanta perspective.

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Speaker 1: He he's another one kind of in that ouch realm

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Speaker 1: I think Braylan Trice is the big X factor to

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Speaker 1: me in all of this because Matthew Judon, when we

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Speaker 1: talk about kind of what he brought, it was really

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of your finest speed pass rusher

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Speaker 1: off the edge Braylan Trice though, based on what I

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Speaker 2: He was looking really good in training camp and I

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Speaker 2: I say that as a huge DeMarco Hellm supporter as

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Speaker 3: Coming back is huge.

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Speaker 2: Where it's like how big will the Falcons go in

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Speaker 2: free agency or the draft? At this position, we'll say

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Speaker 2: a lot about how much they believe in Brailin Trice

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are they looking for a starter? Are they looking

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Speaker 1: And I think we will learn a lot about how

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Speaker 1: weeks and months, and that is going to be a

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Speaker 1: really really exciting time if you're a Falcons fan, if

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Speaker 1: you cover the team like we do, like just to

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Speaker 1: kind of get those little morsels of like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of connecting some dots here. You went after

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Speaker 1: this guy instead of this guy. Fascinating, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: And we're going to be here to cover it all

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Speaker 1: throughout every single step. We'll break it down. Any big

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Speaker 1: news that happens, go to your podcast feed. We will

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Speaker 1: have an episode up and again I mentioned we will

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Speaker 1: be in Indianapolis next week covering the combine, talking to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, so stay tuned. We've got some great,

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Speaker 1: great stuff coming on your feed. But that will do

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Speaker 1: it for Tarren Walk. I'm Will macfadden. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for listening, and we will see you guys soon.

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