Speaker 1: Hell, I suck a dating with Dengler Dared Haven and
Speaker 1: I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to help I suck
Speaker 1: at dating. I'm Jared Haven joined by Dean Ungler, who's
Speaker 1: in a beautiful room and it sounds great and the
Speaker 1: WiFi connection is good. He's ready to go. We have
Speaker 1: a wonderful episode coming up. Obviously, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Dean's time on Bachelor in Paradise. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: all the couples are thoughts about it. We also have
Speaker 1: some very special guests that we will announce later on
Speaker 1: in the show. But first, Dean, how is your Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise experience down there now that we've gotten to
Speaker 1: witness it on TV. Well, before we get to that,
Speaker 1: actually have a question for you about the location that
Speaker 1: I'm in since you mentioned it, and I just I
Speaker 1: wanted to pick your brain really quick. So I am
Speaker 1: in my house in Las Vegas. I'm in my den,
Speaker 1: if you will, And what constitutes a den? You know,
Speaker 1: I just I'm just gonna start calling it that instead
Speaker 1: of game room. I think then just has a little
Speaker 1: bit more sophistication to it, a little bit yeah elegance.
Speaker 1: I'm in my den and I essentially have free rain
Speaker 1: to do whatever I want in this room. And as
Speaker 1: you can see, the walls are all white. Um has
Speaker 1: your touch on it? Nothing exactly, It's very minimalistic at
Speaker 1: the moment. I just I had to ask you a
Speaker 1: question before we dive into, you know, the meat of
Speaker 1: this episode. Um, I want to paint the walls black. Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a horrible idea? Do you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too dark? So I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: lot of like wood paneling, so the black is really
Speaker 1: going to be more of an accent to the wood. Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess the real question I have for you is
Speaker 1: do I paint my floorboards? Because the floorboards are currently white.
Speaker 1: The carpet is like this light gray color. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with the floorboards because like,
Speaker 1: do those get painted? Do those just stay white? Should
Speaker 1: I paint them like a dark blue color? I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. You're talking to the wrong guy.
Speaker 1: You gotta talk to Ashley on that one. I man, dude, black.
Speaker 1: The only downside is that you're just gonna be dark
Speaker 1: in there. So if you want it to be like
Speaker 1: a dark room where you can go and just have
Speaker 1: extreme anxiety. Yeah, totally Anton black. Yeah, it's my it's
Speaker 1: my my dark den of solitude. But when you're spiraling, yeah,
Speaker 1: just going your black room, it's perfect. This is when
Speaker 1: I'm on like super hungover or something, I can just
Speaker 1: come over here and be like this is this is
Speaker 1: the epitome of anxiousness. That's the room that Klin sends
Speaker 1: you to when she's punishing you. You know what, going
Speaker 1: you're black dead? Uh yeah, and she's so it's actually
Speaker 1: gonna be like a den slash office. So she's gonna
Speaker 1: spend a litle time in here as well. But you know,
Speaker 1: this was a little less constructive than I expected it
Speaker 1: to be. I'm gonna paint the black. I'll show. I'll
Speaker 1: give you before and after at some point. Um. But anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 1: back to Bachelor in Paradise. So did you watch the
Speaker 1: finale episode? I saw some of it. You didn't watch
Speaker 1: a single second of it. I watched a few seconds
Speaker 1: of it, Okay. I saw when Kendall came down. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like probably the apex of the episode. You
Speaker 1: didn't watch Mine Kalin starring Roles, And I know I'm
Speaker 1: such a bad Friend. I'm gonna rewatch it. I haven't
Speaker 1: recorded ready to go. I've just been a busy guy,
Speaker 1: that's all. I want to see my my good friend
Speaker 1: on TV in full transparency. I didn't see you or
Speaker 1: Ashley on Paradise last time you're on there. Okay, then
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a second of this past episode. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: a Bachelor Paradise wrapped up. We have our favorite couples, well,
Speaker 1: all three of them. Our favorite couples, I guess it'd
Speaker 1: be Riley and Marissa, Kenny Murray and Joe and Serena.
Speaker 1: And then actually it was weird because it's like the
Speaker 1: show ended and then they did like a little like
Speaker 1: an eighties montage of like this is where they are
Speaker 1: now kind of thing. And then we also come to
Speaker 1: find out that Noah and Abigail are dating and in love,
Speaker 1: and Thomas and Becca are dating and in love. So
Speaker 1: there's actually five six couples of you count Aaron and
Speaker 1: James that came off this season. Um, which has to
Speaker 1: be some sort of record, I would say. And they're
Speaker 1: not just like these flimsy couples where you get sometimes
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, well date, but it seems like
Speaker 1: every one of these couples is fully in love with
Speaker 1: each other, So I think that's a pretty Who do
Speaker 1: you think is gonna make it? Do you think they'll
Speaker 1: all make it? Do you think there's one couple that
Speaker 1: stands out more than the rest? Yeah, the optimist in
Speaker 1: me is gonna say that they're all gonna make it.
Speaker 1: I think that you kind of always have to come
Speaker 1: out of hoping that everyone makes it right. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you would say the same thing. But the realist
Speaker 1: in me is gonna like, at least half of them
Speaker 1: have to end up right because we've been through it. Dude,
Speaker 1: we're jaded. I mean, how many engagements have we seen?
Speaker 1: How many people do we know have gotten engaged on
Speaker 1: this show and it just doesn't end well. They don't
Speaker 1: get married. I mean there's nothing wrong with that, Like, listen,
Speaker 1: you get engaged, doesn't work out? Like I just yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think all the couples are gonna work out.
Speaker 1: The odds are against them. You're right, But between the
Speaker 1: two of us, we've got like at least ten x
Speaker 1: ten ten appearances on reality dating television. I will say
Speaker 1: it's it's it's interesting, Um, the difference between being on
Speaker 1: the show and then just watching it as like an
Speaker 1: audience member. Obviously, like we don't have the the like
Speaker 1: the insider knowledge that we would from our respective like
Speaker 1: Batchelor and Paradise seasons. But I do remember specifically from
Speaker 1: both seasons, even the second one where I only was
Speaker 1: on the show for like four days, like you can
Speaker 1: just out like this couple is not gonna last, this
Speaker 1: couple is gonna do really well, this couple has like
Speaker 1: they're just doing it for Cloud or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: This season, as an audience member, it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: there was anyone like chasing Cloud in the broader sense
Speaker 1: that we've seen people do it in the past, at
Speaker 1: least in my opinion. Um, like everyone seems genuinely love
Speaker 1: with each other, and they all seem like they're pretty
Speaker 1: good matches with each other. So like that's why the
Speaker 1: optive missed in me is like saying they they're all
Speaker 1: gonna work out. Um, but yeah, like we were saying,
Speaker 1: it's just like probably not gonna be the case. Probably not.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's very sweet that you're being a hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1: But who's who's your favorite to come from the from
Speaker 1: the show, Because I mean, I obviously didn't get to
Speaker 1: watch the entire finale, but you still have a pretty
Speaker 1: good grasp on everyone that left the show together. Yeah. Yeah, Well, obviously,
Speaker 1: I guess my favorite couple would be Joan Serena because
Speaker 1: we're friends with Joe. I know Joe. I'm rooting for Joe.
Speaker 1: I love Joe, but obviously also my heart goes out
Speaker 1: to Kendall. I don't know why she went back down there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she was thinking, but I I'm
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that feels terrible for Kendall,
Speaker 1: but I'm also extremely happy for Joe. So I'd say
Speaker 1: Joe and Serena because I want Joe to be happy. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mari and Kenny interesting couple. Uh, Kenny, I like. I
Speaker 1: like Kenny A Lott, so rooting for them. Merica and
Speaker 1: Riley I don't know much about Wait. Wait, so you
Speaker 1: had some reservations about Kenny and Mary, but you clearly
Speaker 1: like Kenny. So does that mean your reservations live solely
Speaker 1: on the Marie side of things? Uh? No, I guess
Speaker 1: my reservations are more for Kenny, even though I like
Speaker 1: Kenny because he's just been honest this entire time in
Speaker 1: dating multiple women and just doing what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: But so I guess my reservations are more with Kenny
Speaker 1: than anything. But I still like Ken anytime. So my
Speaker 1: question is, Abigail and Noah and Becca and Thomas broke
Speaker 1: up now and now they're back together. So my question,
Speaker 1: do you think that they broke up because they didn't
Speaker 1: think that there were good in a relationship anymore? Or
Speaker 1: do you think they broke up because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to get engaged at the end of the show, so
Speaker 1: they were like, well, we're not going to get engaged,
Speaker 1: will break up and then we'll just start dating afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to get it, Since you didn't,
Speaker 1: since you didn't watch the episode, I'll just I guess
Speaker 1: take their hands on this one perfect um. It seemed
Speaker 1: like with Thomas and Becca, at least that Thomas really
Speaker 1: wanted to be in a relationship with Becca. But Becca,
Speaker 1: obviously having been through the ringer quite a few times already,
Speaker 1: both with our and uh Garrett, she understandably was like
Speaker 1: super hesitant. She's like, you know, I'm not gonna happen again,
Speaker 1: Like I think we should part ways. And then I
Speaker 1: guess they probably like reconnected after the show is filming.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the like the rare occasions where
Speaker 1: it seems like where the girl is doing the dumping right,
Speaker 1: it always seems kind of like near the end, like
Speaker 1: the guy is kind of like the one that's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not into this, um so Becca, I think that
Speaker 1: she just didn't want to have the pressure of another
Speaker 1: TV engagement or any type of potential pressure from even
Speaker 1: leaving in a relationship like that. And then No One.
Speaker 1: Abigail was an interesting one because we didn't really see
Speaker 1: like a whole lot of them all season long, but
Speaker 1: they always like would cut to the I T M
Speaker 1: and they're always be like, yeah, we're the most solid
Speaker 1: couple here in Paradise, and you're like, yeah, I guess,
Speaker 1: but like do you never really anything to prove it?
Speaker 1: And so I think their issue was that they really
Speaker 1: liked each other, but there was never like, uh, there's
Speaker 1: never a turning point where they were like, wow, you
Speaker 1: like really really like each other. Even though it did
Speaker 1: say that he was falling in love with Abigail and
Speaker 1: Abigail was gonna stay back to him. I feel like
Speaker 1: they were like a super super slow burn and then
Speaker 1: so they like, you know, look at all the other
Speaker 1: couples around them, and they're all like madly in love,
Speaker 1: and then they're still like liking each other and like
Speaker 1: each other. Nothing's going wrong, but nothing's going great, and
Speaker 1: so that's kind of why, in my opinion, they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just get out of here. Separately, speaking of Abigail,
Speaker 1: do you make anything of this dale Claire and Abigail drama?
Speaker 1: I saw something about that. Um, I didn't really follow
Speaker 1: it too closely, but would you have like a do
Speaker 1: you have a an inside knowledge? But the t is
Speaker 1: Claire posted a photo. Uh so her mom has been
Speaker 1: sick for a while, which is really sad, and you know,
Speaker 1: Claire is super close to her, and she posted a
Speaker 1: picture of her, I believe, holding hands with her mom
Speaker 1: and saying about how you know, it's been tough times.
Speaker 1: They obviously just and she just ended a public relationship
Speaker 1: and going into things of that nature. But then she
Speaker 1: tagged Abigail in the picture, so she just pretty much
Speaker 1: says in this I'm choosing not to speak right now
Speaker 1: in the details of my relationship because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, anyone could put their own opinion or
Speaker 1: throw words together from any narrative they want. Uh So
Speaker 1: she just goes on. She says, I'm thankful for the
Speaker 1: people in my life who offer genuine, unconditional love with
Speaker 1: no personal gain and stand by me through thick infant
Speaker 1: especially when the cameras are off with no accolades. Actions
Speaker 1: speak for themselves. So she posted that and tagged Abigail. Obviously,
Speaker 1: everybody's screenshot at it, if that's if you can do
Speaker 1: a past tensive screen shot, and then she untagged Abigail.
Speaker 1: And now there's this whole thing coming out that Dale
Speaker 1: and Abigail possibly hooked up when Dale and Claire was
Speaker 1: still together. But it's all just the rumor mill. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows any thoughts on it. You were smiling. Do you
Speaker 1: have like inside knowledge about this? I well, I definitely
Speaker 1: have any inside knowledge of it. Unfortunately, I uh, I
Speaker 1: do remember seeing that the tag of Abigail, But then
Speaker 1: I remember since like since, because of this podcasting, because
Speaker 1: Kaylin and I've been watching Bachelor in Paradise. I'll like search,
Speaker 1: you know, Bachelor contestants on Instagram every once in a while.
Speaker 1: So now my explore page is like almost all like
Speaker 1: Bachelor news, and so I've seen like a lot of
Speaker 1: like Instagram photos of like what is the truth behind
Speaker 1: the Abigail, Like how did Abigail get ripped in this
Speaker 1: whole Derrek Dale Claire thing? And I haven't I just
Speaker 1: haven't really been interested enough to even click on it
Speaker 1: to kind of get the inside scoop on what's going on.
Speaker 1: But it just seems I don't know, it seems fishy
Speaker 1: to me, you know, and not fishy on their side
Speaker 1: of it just seems like a weird rumor. It's very weird.
Speaker 1: It's it's from left field, as they said, it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's just it doesn't seem true
Speaker 1: to me. But again, this is just from someone that
Speaker 1: doesn't has no information whatsoever. It just doesn't seem it
Speaker 1: was very random. So I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on, but I want to ask because we're
Speaker 1: talking about Abigail. But I want to mention Becca and
Speaker 1: Thomas as well. You know, Becca is such a veteran
Speaker 1: of the show. I wonder if she pulled a veteran
Speaker 1: wildly move and was like she went to Thomas knew
Speaker 1: she didn't want to get engaged, but was afraid that
Speaker 1: Thomas was going to propose at the end of the show.
Speaker 1: So maybe she went to Thomas and said, listen, I
Speaker 1: don't want you getting pressured into proposing to me. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in another I don't want another
Speaker 1: Bachelor engagement. Because when you think about it, Becca has
Speaker 1: been proposed to two times on the show, so if
Speaker 1: she got proposed to in Paradise, that would have made
Speaker 1: three times she left the show engaged. That's a ton.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if Becca was like, listen, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to propose, and I think it's probably would
Speaker 1: be best for our relationship if we take the pressure
Speaker 1: off a little bit. We break up. We leave Paradise
Speaker 1: broken up, even though we know once we get out
Speaker 1: of this we're gonna start dating again and work on
Speaker 1: this relationship and start dating in the real world. And
Speaker 1: I wonder if she did that as an old veteran
Speaker 1: wildly move and Thomas was like, yeah, sure, as long
Speaker 1: as you know we're happy and we're on the same page,
Speaker 1: let's do it. You know. I actually I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of merit to that, because, yeah, finally something
Speaker 1: I say. The breakup between Becca and Thomas Caitlin looked
Speaker 1: over at me and she was like, that's some of
Speaker 1: the worst acting I've ever seen in my life. And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, that is really bad
Speaker 1: acting or he like, it just didn't make sense in
Speaker 1: the context of like his reaction to what was going on,
Speaker 1: Like it was just it seemed like a huge overreaction.
Speaker 1: And I I I hesitate to say that the acting
Speaker 1: things specifically because I'm sure You've been accused of acting
Speaker 1: on the show. I've been accused of acting on the show,
Speaker 1: and it there's no truth to that for me at least,
Speaker 1: I'm sure for you as well, And so for me
Speaker 1: to say that about Thomas is a little unfair. But
Speaker 1: it just seemed a little contrived. And I do agree
Speaker 1: with where you're coming from. It seems like that could
Speaker 1: definitely be the case. But I mean, you can't really
Speaker 1: blame Beckay, like you know, like you said, she's been
Speaker 1: proposed to twice and both those proposals have ended, uh
Speaker 1: without a marriage obviously, so this kind of like let
Speaker 1: her regain some of the power on her own and
Speaker 1: have a little bit more say I guess and the
Speaker 1: way things are gonna go. But uh, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know it. It was a good season overall. I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably the first ever Bachelor show Bachelor,
Speaker 1: Bachelor at Bachelor in Paradise that I've watched every episode
Speaker 1: of the season of aside from the ones that I've
Speaker 1: been on, you know, so like that's that's saying something.
Speaker 1: I think. I think it was a little more, a
Speaker 1: little more interesting than I normally would give a show
Speaker 1: like that credit for compelling TV. Paradise is the best
Speaker 1: out of the three between Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise and Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: I would much rather watch Bachelor in Paradise. It definitely
Speaker 1: is it definitely like even this season it kind of
Speaker 1: got drug out a little bit, Like there was a
Speaker 1: couple episodes in the middle where I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm ready for the show to be over, and
Speaker 1: it's a sidebar. It's the perfect show to like watch
Speaker 1: because I could like sit on my phone and do
Speaker 1: a Crossford puzzle or like stroll Instagram, and I could
Speaker 1: put my phone down for ten minutes, get back into it,
Speaker 1: and then like be bored to pick up my phone again.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those shows where you can kind
Speaker 1: of tune in and out of little Mindless but that's
Speaker 1: the purpose of it, that's what makes it so good. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And then with Bachelor and Bachelorette, it just seems so
Speaker 1: much longer and there's like so much less uh less
Speaker 1: variation from episode to episode, Like, yeah, you kind of
Speaker 1: are whittling it down, but it's just, uh it just
Speaker 1: seems like a little bit more drug out my I
Speaker 1: think my attention span maybe isn't it what it needs
Speaker 1: to be for a show like that for the Bachelor Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean listen, I want to show
Speaker 1: to last forever. The show is very beneficial for us.
Speaker 1: I love the show. I'm extremely grateful for the show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Paradise is my favorite by far. Wasn't Jesse
Speaker 1: Palmer announced as the host of Bachelor? Yes, he was
Speaker 1: officially Jesse Palmer. What are your thoughts about that? Before
Speaker 1: we get I was gonna ask you, I've never met
Speaker 1: the guy? Uh yeah, I mean fine, I like Jesse Palmer.
Speaker 1: I've i've we i've actually and I have been him once.
Speaker 1: He was very nice, very cordial. He knew who we were,
Speaker 1: which was so humbling. Um, so I'm definitely excited for him.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been grooming him to be Chris Harrison,
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's replacement for quite some time. I mean again,
Speaker 1: there's definitely a part of me that Mrs Chris on
Speaker 1: the show. I I do. I He's just been such
Speaker 1: a staple in the franchise. He's a friend. I miss.
Speaker 1: I miss hearing his voice. Don't call me creepy, but
Speaker 1: you know when it's like the intro and welcome to Paradise,
Speaker 1: and you know, the most dramatic season ever, Like it
Speaker 1: was such a funny gag towards the end, but it
Speaker 1: was it was nice to have. Uh So, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he's I don't know, is he God? I
Speaker 1: keep fumbling on her words. Is he going to be
Speaker 1: the host moving forward? Or is he just this host
Speaker 1: for this upcoming season and then we're gonna see where
Speaker 1: this goes? I mean, I am the wrong person I
Speaker 1: asked that question too. I would imagine it probably put
Speaker 1: him on like a one season contract with the possibility
Speaker 1: to extend it, you know what I mean, So like,
Speaker 1: let's see how the first season goes and they go
Speaker 1: from there. I do remember, And actually it's funny because
Speaker 1: I think you and I attended this showing together. That
Speaker 1: show listened to your was it listen to your heart?
Speaker 1: The proposal? The proposal? Oh, that's right where we were
Speaker 1: in the audience with Nick. With Nick and like I
Speaker 1: think Courtney or Lily was there with us to do
Speaker 1: that horrible, horrible show. He was the host of that.
Speaker 1: He's a bring your job of it, he was. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: we were talking about We called him one take Jesse,
Speaker 1: One take Jesse. Yeah, he's he's a he's a professional,
Speaker 1: and so you gotta give the guys some credit. I again,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him. I know that he
Speaker 1: played football. Uh that's about it. I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about Chris. Still don't really know much about him. But
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of like that's kind of what
Speaker 1: you want out your host, you know, like a little
Speaker 1: nondescript um, a little vanilla, a little bland, because if
Speaker 1: they're a little two out there, then they're going to
Speaker 1: take away from kind of the the interest of the
Speaker 1: show that's going on. So I'm excited to watch. I
Speaker 1: guess um, we'll see how I'm definitely excited for him.
Speaker 1: I think I think he'll do great. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. Yeah, I mean, if it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be me, Jesse Palmer is a good choice. I agree.
Speaker 1: It's funny. Actually, I got a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of backlash for my hosting on Paradise in the final episode.
Speaker 1: Let's have a backlash. It's pretty hard. Actually, I'm curious
Speaker 1: to know how did it go for you. Did you
Speaker 1: have like lines that you were supposed to recite or
Speaker 1: would they just like basically send you. Actually, I was
Speaker 1: like a gist of what to explain to everyone. I mean,
Speaker 1: they gave us like a general idea of what was
Speaker 1: going to happen, but no no lines or anything like that.
Speaker 1: We just kind of so they give they give Kaitlin
Speaker 1: and I like full on scripts, and we didn't have
Speaker 1: much time to memorize the scripts. And even if we
Speaker 1: had more time to memorize it, like we're not you know,
Speaker 1: we're not good at like we're not actors in any sense.
Speaker 1: So like it came across very robotic and it's so funny.
Speaker 1: In the moment, I was like, Wow, I crushed it,
Speaker 1: And then watching the show back, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was really really, really bad. And then the time
Speaker 1: that we didn't have a script where they were just
Speaker 1: like okay, just kind of like free ball it. They
Speaker 1: didn't hear any of it. So there was probably like
Speaker 1: a good thirty minutes of conversation with a lot of
Speaker 1: the girls right before they went down to the proposal
Speaker 1: area that didn't get aired. There's a couple of things
Speaker 1: up in the plot, but that didn't get aired. And
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I didn't think that any
Speaker 1: of it was gonna get aired. I thought that's how
Speaker 1: bad it was. So the fact that we were even
Speaker 1: still on TV, in my opinion, is a bit of
Speaker 1: a blessing. So um, it's interesting to hear that you
Speaker 1: didn't have quite the structure that we did. I guess, well,
Speaker 1: they just they you know, they know we're naturals. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: just put Jared and Nastally in front of a camera.
Speaker 1: Magic is going to happen. They got to cover all
Speaker 1: their basis when they sent me in Kalin down there,
Speaker 1: because we, uh, if they gave us to much freedom,
Speaker 1: we're gonna miss everything up Royal or make great TV. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well probably the former flip a coin. I guess. At
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Speaker 1: in the world. Let's just do something fun and get
Speaker 1: some of our friends who were also empty nesters and
Speaker 1: just smile again and do something fun. So we launched
Speaker 1: the channel about a month ago probably, and I don't
Speaker 1: even three weeks ago, and we've got forty shows done
Speaker 1: in the can and yeah, no, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is a time in your life where you've raised kids,
Speaker 1: you've said goodbye to your kids, and then you look
Speaker 1: at each other and go, hey, you know what, we
Speaker 1: were married before we had kids. We were people before
Speaker 1: we had kids. Let's celebrate and so we have just
Speaker 1: been having a blast. And our whole goal is to
Speaker 1: unite a bunch of other people out there. They're just
Speaker 1: like us. So, how long have you guys been empty
Speaker 1: nesters for? Now? When it was the last time, when
Speaker 1: it was the last kid that got out of there? Well,
Speaker 1: it depends on whether they come back. Yeah, Okay. During
Speaker 1: COVID we were on empty nesters again. Uh, and so
Speaker 1: we ended up. Uh, it's probably been I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe six or six or seven years, probably on on
Speaker 1: and off, depending on well sober up. Before we came
Speaker 1: up with a good idea. You're like, wait, is this
Speaker 1: real life? We gotta we gotta do things that we
Speaker 1: want to do now again. Finally, let's just say we
Speaker 1: rediscovered every room in our house. Nice. Nice. I think
Speaker 1: your daughter might be listening to any anything you want
Speaker 1: to add that if she's not read enough, I own
Speaker 1: I love it. Wait, so do you guys, um, do
Speaker 1: you guys have you your job still? Are you guys
Speaker 1: retired or what's the status of the job situation. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually still working full time and my business
Speaker 1: partners I have an ad agency and a tech company,
Speaker 1: so I'm working full time and my business partners I
Speaker 1: told them at the end of last year that we
Speaker 1: were going to start this and they're like, great, we
Speaker 1: love it, and they've been completely supportive and it's been fun. See,
Speaker 1: that's amazing that you can do both. That's that's that's great.
Speaker 1: So what what is life? I mean, obviously like it's
Speaker 1: been seven years, but then plus COVID kind of took
Speaker 1: a year and a half off, which I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was like, actually, probably nice to have your kids back
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, Riley and I had so much fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how was your how was your life shifting? More than
Speaker 1: anything else between those two, I guess lifestyles of having
Speaker 1: the kids in the house and then not having them
Speaker 1: there anymore. Well, we actually get to do anything we want,
Speaker 1: whenever we want, where we want. And as soon as
Speaker 1: they moved out, we got a huge race, we had
Speaker 1: a lot of extra money. Been so nice. Okay. And
Speaker 1: then also for clarification, because I actually didn't know that
Speaker 1: empty nesters meant that the kids are all out of
Speaker 1: the house. But so for all clarification and by listening,
Speaker 1: empty nesters means you when the kids all move out,
Speaker 1: the parents get the house back. So now you guys
Speaker 1: are empty nesters. So my question is, do you prefer
Speaker 1: the kids in the house or out of the house.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, there's still some days
Speaker 1: where I wish we had our little family back, and
Speaker 1: they both lived close so we see them often. I've
Speaker 1: long for those days. I don't think a mom ever
Speaker 1: doesn't long for those days. But you just have to
Speaker 1: convince yourself it's time to move on and enjoy yourselves again.
Speaker 1: How many kids do you have? We have to Riley
Speaker 1: and then also our son who is thirty years old.
Speaker 1: It works, actually works in in in the advertising world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you had a choice, Because now I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: in this podcause I'm so I'm so curious about this.
Speaker 1: My wife is pregnant. We're doing February, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see how much my life is going to change.
Speaker 1: And so my question is, you know, so many people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I can't wait to kids go to college,
Speaker 1: get my house back. So d that's why I want
Speaker 1: to ask you prefer the kids in the house or
Speaker 1: out of the house. So if you had to choose
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I get I get to either
Speaker 1: have my kids as kids in the house again, or
Speaker 1: the way it is now, kids are out of the house,
Speaker 1: and it's just to us to which one would you choose?
Speaker 1: If you had to, what would I choose? To choose
Speaker 1: the kid? I would choose the kids, absolutely, but you
Speaker 1: know I would choose the kids. Being yeah, knowing what
Speaker 1: I know now, not as teenager, is not as pain
Speaker 1: any asses we were little, like you'll you'll find out
Speaker 1: you you don't even know what to do when they
Speaker 1: get there. You're like, what you just handed me a baby?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with it? And then
Speaker 1: you grow with the kids. And I would give anything
Speaker 1: to have my kids back, but I would like to
Speaker 1: have our financial position, and I'd like to have my wisdom,
Speaker 1: and then it would be perfect. That's what that's what's
Speaker 1: so good about the grandkids. Rightly from your next God's ears.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta maintain the empty, empty nest thing,
Speaker 1: and you have the knowledge that you were able to gain.
Speaker 1: So I guess, Riley, who's listening to this? Riley, if
Speaker 1: you want to chime in, um, one of these days
Speaker 1: we have to make that reality right. Look, um, my
Speaker 1: brother is older and married, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give that up to him and let him take the
Speaker 1: wheel on that. Um, but we'll see she can with
Speaker 1: the fresh on him. Well, Riley, now that your parents
Speaker 1: are empty nesters, do you have any questions for them?
Speaker 1: What is the worst thing that Tucker and I ever did? Like,
Speaker 1: who takes the cake on the worst thing ever? Oh? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Were you really you never did
Speaker 1: anything wrong? What a good two shirts? My bad girl cover? Orry?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, such a bad in prison that that, but
Speaker 1: we won't talk about Yeah that was only six months sentence.
Speaker 1: We can skip right over that. Yeah. Yeah, Riley was
Speaker 1: like so eat she was such a good girl. She
Speaker 1: never did anything bad. And she did anything bad, she'd
Speaker 1: tell us, So, how was Tucker? Tucker was a good kid.
Speaker 1: He did we found out later that he did some
Speaker 1: naughty things after he moved out, Like after he moved out,
Speaker 1: he told me, I'll remember you know, he would kill
Speaker 1: me if I told you the things you did. But well,
Speaker 1: we gotta know, give us like the most mild of
Speaker 1: all the things. Oh if he told his mom, it
Speaker 1: can't be that bad. So he and his buddy used
Speaker 1: to go down to a place called the Back Bay
Speaker 1: that was near our house, and they used to go
Speaker 1: on hikes. And what we found out later was that
Speaker 1: they were going down and having a few beers at
Speaker 1: everything stored down there. It wasn't bad, but they were,
Speaker 1: you know, we were in one trip we were actually
Speaker 1: it was pretty funny. We were in Barbados and we thought, gosh,
Speaker 1: we're should we just let Tucker, you know, we have
Speaker 1: let him have a beer. It's legal here. Let's just
Speaker 1: you know, he's with us, he's with us. You know,
Speaker 1: we really thought a lot about it. And then we're like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we got him a beer and he just just
Speaker 1: downed it and they both looked at each other went,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're like, obviously not your first beer,
Speaker 1: and he said out of the country and so but
Speaker 1: you wont know. What's funny about that is you you're
Speaker 1: learning more about your kids, obviously as they grew up
Speaker 1: and they like decided to start telling you more about it.
Speaker 1: It's also flipped around, like I'm sure Riley and Jaredy
Speaker 1: can both attest. The older you get, there's things you're
Speaker 1: finding out about your parents that you never would have
Speaker 1: guessed before. Like I remember when I was like twenty
Speaker 1: years old, I found out my dad's smoked weed or
Speaker 1: like my mom smoked weed or something while we all
Speaker 1: lived in the house, and I was like, there's no
Speaker 1: way my parents were smoking weed in the house. But like,
Speaker 1: sure enough, it's the truth. So it's like I want
Speaker 1: to know, like Riley, maybe even like through the YouTube
Speaker 1: channel that you watched with the ant nest YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: have you learned anything about your parents that you didn't
Speaker 1: know before when you were younger. Um, I've always known
Speaker 1: they laugh. They laugh a lot together, which I've always loved. Um,
Speaker 1: but I never knew how hard of partyers they were,
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna come. They love to drink and have
Speaker 1: fun and you know, but I never knew, like you
Speaker 1: don't see your parents as that as partiers or you know,
Speaker 1: young So I think I never really fully saw like
Speaker 1: how much fun they have together. That's gonna be like
Speaker 1: a pretty rare thing to be able to have an
Speaker 1: insight into your parents like social life, because like you said,
Speaker 1: it's like, why would you ever go to your I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you go to like I guess gatherings and stuff, but
Speaker 1: everyone's a little bit different when they're just around their friends.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure if the kids are around you kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, rein it in a little bit. So that's
Speaker 1: a very unique perspective you're able to to have their
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of funny actually, right and Tucker, they
Speaker 1: were telling us. We were talking at one time, and we, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: through my business, do a lot of industry events, and
Speaker 1: so I was telling them about what we were doing,
Speaker 1: and somehow we got home at like four thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, and I remember their jaws just dropping and
Speaker 1: the comment was, who are you people? So that's been
Speaker 1: like the running joke of empty nesters United's like we
Speaker 1: want all of our kids to say, who are you people?
Speaker 1: What we're people before we're parents. Yeah, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to lose it. So now that you're empty nesters, do
Speaker 1: you find when you talk to other people as well?
Speaker 1: Not that you have lost certainly purpose in your life,
Speaker 1: but like you just said, you know you're more than
Speaker 1: just parents. And I'm sure over the past five years
Speaker 1: it's been so focused on being a parent. Do you
Speaker 1: ever feel like you reinvigorated a part of yourself or
Speaker 1: rediscovered a part of yourself. I think for me as
Speaker 1: a mom and um I was a stay at home mom,
Speaker 1: that you have to go through this process, and it's
Speaker 1: a process. First, you're excited to get them out into
Speaker 1: the world. You're excited. You know they're probably going on
Speaker 1: to college and you want to pack for college. And
Speaker 1: then you come home and go, what am I going
Speaker 1: to do now? My purpose is done? And then they
Speaker 1: come back and you kind of go through a sadness
Speaker 1: when they first go away because you realize that they're
Speaker 1: probably never going to come live with you again. That changes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pandemic will change that. The great part is they become
Speaker 1: adults and they become people that you would want to
Speaker 1: be friends with if you do your job well. And
Speaker 1: then it's like, I want to win vacations with my kids.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to have spouses. My son
Speaker 1: married the most amazing person ever. And then you just
Speaker 1: kind of you know, for me, I had to really
Speaker 1: find a purpose for myself after my kids moved out. Um,
Speaker 1: for you, probably not so much, because you just kept
Speaker 1: doing your thing yea and that. But I think doing
Speaker 1: the channel has been really fun. It's it's given us
Speaker 1: a chance to really work together. We weren't really sure
Speaker 1: how it was going to work because we both have
Speaker 1: very different styles. So one of us is bossy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it ain't me so, but it's just been it's been
Speaker 1: a it's just been a really fun, unique, different experience.
Speaker 1: And you know that for us, it's like the worst
Speaker 1: case scenario is we got a lot of video that,
Speaker 1: you know, Riley and Tucker can show their grandkids and go, look,
Speaker 1: how ridiculous are you know? Our parents were, So it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a fun time to just go out
Speaker 1: and kind of goof off and and live life. Do
Speaker 1: you film and edit everything yourself? We filmed probably seventy
Speaker 1: of it. We have a great um crew that we
Speaker 1: work with that handles all of the production po part
Speaker 1: of it, editing, posting, cut down. That's good. It's a lie.
Speaker 1: And when you said you had forty videos, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's like a year's work. I knew.
Speaker 1: The great thing about it is that the two brothers
Speaker 1: there are kids age, so much fun working with them
Speaker 1: because we've kind of adopted them. Guys are table rock man,
Speaker 1: They're just great. They work with a hundred and ten
Speaker 1: content creators and they just know their stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: been it's been great. I mean, there's no way I
Speaker 1: could do that, and trying to run a company still
Speaker 1: and you know, we've got four people working from home
Speaker 1: and trying to you know, it's just a hundred ten accounts.
Speaker 1: It's would be impossible because we're still figuring out how
Speaker 1: to post on Instagram. Yeah, that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense because I agree with Jared and you guys had
Speaker 1: forty videos. I was like, holy cow, that literally is
Speaker 1: the year's worth of videos. And my girlfriend does YouTube
Speaker 1: and she works her butt off on that stuff too,
Speaker 1: So that's that's impressive that you guys are able to
Speaker 1: do that. But I guess my my thing is, um,
Speaker 1: I always don't want to tie everything back to Jared.
Speaker 1: I live bycariously through Jared. Uh. I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: can tell through the podcast he lives more, he lives
Speaker 1: such a more exciting life than me. There's no way
Speaker 1: he lives vicariously through me, because hey, excitement is all relative, right,
Speaker 1: it's all subjective objective. You live a separate kind of
Speaker 1: exciting kind of life. I live a separate exciting life
Speaker 1: as well. Um as you know, parents and now empty
Speaker 1: nest chairs. Jared, of course, is doing February with his
Speaker 1: wonderful wife And Jared, I know you've already gotten all
Speaker 1: the advice from your parents and her parents and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, But what what kind of advice
Speaker 1: do you have for Jared coming into his firstborn child.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say, well, you say what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. That's the other thing too, when you've been
Speaker 1: married thirty or four years, you kind of know what
Speaker 1: they They don't take some things too seriously because when
Speaker 1: you're a young new parents, you tend to try and
Speaker 1: really hyper focus on things and oh my gosh, and
Speaker 1: the best part about it is and then it all
Speaker 1: works out. They all turn out fine. It's just one
Speaker 1: of those scenarios where you just have to, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of relax and enjoy it. Don't miss the
Speaker 1: don't miss the process. Yeah, and you know what, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what I would have said. I remember how much
Speaker 1: we stressed about what kindergarten to send our son too,
Speaker 1: and I think we stressed more about kinderdict garden and
Speaker 1: we did college. But because at the time of college
Speaker 1: rolled around, we were we had finally figured out, like Okay,
Speaker 1: it'll all work out. Time. You've got a good eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty eight years to be with this person. Just
Speaker 1: raise someone that you would like to spend time with, well,
Speaker 1: then he'll be a massive Tom Brady fan. Um. I yeah,
Speaker 1: I I actually have that. I've been trying to have
Speaker 1: that same outlook on life. Uh, not just with a kid,
Speaker 1: but of course taking a life seriously, but also um,
Speaker 1: trying to focus on the process. Like you guys said,
Speaker 1: specifically with opening up the coffee shop, it's very stressful,
Speaker 1: spending money, not knowing if it's going to work out,
Speaker 1: hiring people. Am I going to fail them? Um? But
Speaker 1: I'm trying to also just focus on the process and
Speaker 1: really uh uh you know, put my energy towards that
Speaker 1: and try to enjoy every aspect of it because you know,
Speaker 1: one day, you know, everything will be gone, so right,
Speaker 1: that's right when you least expect it. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, you're doing it the right way,
Speaker 1: and I congratulate you on doing that. Starting a business
Speaker 1: is really hard, it's really difficult, it's really scary. And
Speaker 1: seventeen years ago I was in the exact same spot
Speaker 1: that you're in and you just gotta go for it.
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be things that are gonna be horrible,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be things that are great. But the bottom
Speaker 1: line is you're betting on yourself and that's the best
Speaker 1: thing that you can do. And I fortunately had two
Speaker 1: really good partners and you know, we've been blessed and
Speaker 1: built the business up to you know, you know, a
Speaker 1: very solid company, and you know it's it's it's something
Speaker 1: that you will never regret doing. Thanks, guys, I appreciate it. Well.
Speaker 1: I want to Riley to ask the last question here
Speaker 1: or actually, excuse me, answered the last question. So Riley,
Speaker 1: if you could pop there, there's her zoom. I have
Speaker 1: a question for you. Your parents have been married thirty
Speaker 1: four years. If you could take one thing from their
Speaker 1: relationship and put it into the relationship you hope to
Speaker 1: have for thirty four years of your life, what would
Speaker 1: that one thing be more than anything else? The one
Speaker 1: thing you could have that they have. They're they're always
Speaker 1: thinking about the other person, what they can do to
Speaker 1: make the other persons stay better or feel better. So
Speaker 1: I think I would, you know, I think that's amazing
Speaker 1: to have to have somebody cares so much about how
Speaker 1: you're doing and what you're doing and how they can
Speaker 1: make it better and always be there for you. I
Speaker 1: think that would be my one thing. Look at him, hug,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at your family dinner. Well you're welcome. Um, well, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Can you tell
Speaker 1: our listeners where they can find your channel? Absolutely, it's
Speaker 1: empty Nestors Unite and we have our posting every Wednesday
Speaker 1: and Sunday at five pm. And we've got some great
Speaker 1: trips coming up and really appreciate the opportunity to come
Speaker 1: on and talk to you guys. It's been great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you and stay Yeah, thanks for sharing your your stories.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely subscribe to the YouTube channel twice a week.
Speaker 1: That's that's exciting stuff. Um, thank you guys so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. We will will make sure that Riley's
Speaker 1: on our best behavior around us at all times. And uh,
Speaker 1: obviously we don't need that because you guys raised her
Speaker 1: so well. But yeah, thanks guys. And Riley speaks very
Speaker 1: highly of both of you and said you guys are
Speaker 1: so easy to work with. She's she's under contract, she
Speaker 1: has to say that. Congratulations on your success. It's really
Speaker 1: seriously thanks, I really appreciate it. I'm going all right,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help I suck at dating. That was
Speaker 1: so much fun. Riley, thank you so much for having
Speaker 1: your parents come on. They're the best. Please tell them
Speaker 1: that they can come on any time and maybe we
Speaker 1: can get some like baby stories about Riley and uh
Speaker 1: see if she was a good kid or not. But
Speaker 1: we do have emails, of course, Dean's favorite part of
Speaker 1: the segment. We don't have Mark here. We do have Easton.
Speaker 1: If you're around Easton and your board and you're tired
Speaker 1: of hearing us talk, would you like to read the email? Hey?
Speaker 1: Who when my name is Eastern and I can read,
Speaker 1: let's do an email here. This is from Jess. Me
Speaker 1: and my boyfriend are five years apart. I'm twenty five,
Speaker 1: he's thirty, and we've been dating for a year. I
Speaker 1: really fell for him because in the beginning of our
Speaker 1: relationship he always seemed down to have fun and was
Speaker 1: super adventurous. In reality, I've learned that this guy is
Speaker 1: such a homebody and only wants to hang out with
Speaker 1: his family. I still want a party and have fun,
Speaker 1: to hang out with my friends, with my boyfriend. He
Speaker 1: has no issue with me going out, but he'd rather
Speaker 1: stay home. I hate this because when I'm out without him,
Speaker 1: I feel bad and sometimes I don't even have as
Speaker 1: much fun because I wish he was there bonding with
Speaker 1: everyone like my other friends with boyfriends are. I asked
Speaker 1: him why he likes to stay home. He said he
Speaker 1: used to go out to distract himself because he was
Speaker 1: single at the time, and now that we're together, he
Speaker 1: isn't up for that life of going out anymore. Help.
Speaker 1: I do love him, but it's only been a year
Speaker 1: into our relationship. Can something that's silly be a deal breaker?
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with our relationship except him not realizing
Speaker 1: we have an age difference, and he's robbing me of
Speaker 1: my youth. I feel like I'm turning thirty one with
Speaker 1: him when I'm only turning twenty six and a few months.
Speaker 1: Damn thirty one. The ancient age of thirty one dinosaurs
Speaker 1: then one kind of a lot to impact their UM.
Speaker 1: I'll take the reins on this one first, because it's
Speaker 1: a very similar situation to mind and well, not similar.
Speaker 1: I guess the ages are similar. That's about where the
Speaker 1: similarities in UM. It seems like you're kind of worried. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, Jess, thank you for emailing us. It
Speaker 1: seems like you're kind of worried about all the wrong things.
Speaker 1: Like it's not a bad like it would be bad
Speaker 1: if your boyfriend was trying to prevent you from going out,
Speaker 1: But the fact that he's like, yeah, go out and
Speaker 1: have fun with your friends. I'm just gonna be over
Speaker 1: here doing my own thing. I think that's totally healthy
Speaker 1: and totally normal. I think to end a relationship over that,
Speaker 1: especially if you really like the guy, is a little
Speaker 1: over dramatic, especially because there's gonna be a point where
Speaker 1: you're probably and you're gonna be sick and tired of
Speaker 1: going out, and you're gonna kind of be in the
Speaker 1: same boat as him. So it's like, as long as
Speaker 1: he's not preventing you from doing these things, I don't
Speaker 1: see really any issue with it. It's like your own
Speaker 1: guilt is kind of the thing getting in the way
Speaker 1: of you having fun now. Um, So I would say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's better than the alternative where he's going
Speaker 1: out too much and you don't like him going out
Speaker 1: kind of thing, Like he's just comfortable being home, and
Speaker 1: he's totally okay with that, So I don't really see
Speaker 1: an issue with it. I guess it would be nice
Speaker 1: to have him out partying with you at times, like
Speaker 1: you said, like you want to be able to experience
Speaker 1: that with him, but it sounds like that's just not
Speaker 1: what he wants to do, and he's totally okay with that.
Speaker 1: So just go out and have your fun to your thing.
Speaker 1: And UM, I don't see why it's even such a
Speaker 1: big deal. What do you guys think? I relate hard
Speaker 1: to this guy because when I turn thirty, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to leave the house. I think shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: deal breaker. I think what really has to happen is
Speaker 1: that your guys are gonna have to sacrifice a little
Speaker 1: bit on each end for the betterment of the relationships.
Speaker 1: So jess, some nights you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to go out and you're gonna have to stay in
Speaker 1: because you want to be with your boyfriend and he
Speaker 1: wants to stay home. And then other nights, your boyfriend's
Speaker 1: gonna have to say, Okay, you know we didn't go
Speaker 1: out past few nights. You want to go out, Let's
Speaker 1: go get a drink, like I'll suck it up, let
Speaker 1: me wake up. So that's really what I think it
Speaker 1: comes down to. I don't think there should be a
Speaker 1: deal breaker. I mean the relationship is great. Come on,
Speaker 1: you guys can figure this out. What do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to agree. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is like a fundamental difference. Uh. And and Jess, you
Speaker 1: will you will get to the point where you don't
Speaker 1: want to leave the house either. Um. But I do
Speaker 1: think it just requires compromise. Like like you guys said, Uh,
Speaker 1: he needs to suck it up and go out. I
Speaker 1: don't like going out. I never I never did. I
Speaker 1: don't like going to I don't like going to bars,
Speaker 1: I don't like doing anything. So I understand where this
Speaker 1: guy's coming from. Um, but I want to make my
Speaker 1: partner happy, and if that is something she wants to do,
Speaker 1: I will do it uh as often as I possibly can. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to like rag on
Speaker 1: Jess too much. But I don't think he's robbing you
Speaker 1: of your youth. That that stuck out to me. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there are times that you can go out
Speaker 1: without him. That's not robbing you as long as he's
Speaker 1: cool within he's not like the jealous type, and then
Speaker 1: you're not the jealous type. Yeah, you know, just just
Speaker 1: do your thing, uh, and compromise. That's the advice there.
Speaker 1: I agree, compromises definitely good call. And I do agree
Speaker 1: with both of you guys like he should he because
Speaker 1: he said, I'm saying, as you, I don't love going out,
Speaker 1: I'll do it every once in a while to like
Speaker 1: appease the people that are like wanting to go out
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Uh. And I think that's really
Speaker 1: what it blows down to, is like he should be
Speaker 1: willing to go out with you every once in a while,
Speaker 1: like if you're going out every Friday and Saturday night
Speaker 1: with your friends and partying and all these things, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do it every you know, two
Speaker 1: nights a week, every single week, like that's totally normal.
Speaker 1: And my the thing that I keep sticking to is
Speaker 1: like you're gonna eventually grow out of that phase of
Speaker 1: wanting to go out all the time, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be exactly where he is, and you're gonna like look
Speaker 1: back and regret the thing like breaking up with him
Speaker 1: if you decide to go that far. Because you're gonna
Speaker 1: like you're just You're not. You're not throwing your youth
Speaker 1: away by any search of the imagination. Like like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, like if he was stopping you from going
Speaker 1: out and having fun with your friends would be different.
Speaker 1: Start with one thing. But if he's not doing that,
Speaker 1: I think it's totally fine, totally normal, especially if he's
Speaker 1: not the jealous type, if he's not getting jealous of
Speaker 1: you going out. Because the only situation I can relate
Speaker 1: this to is when I was like twenty and I
Speaker 1: was dating my girlfriend at the time. She would go
Speaker 1: out a lot of times with the friends because she
Speaker 1: was a senior in college and she wanted to really
Speaker 1: remember these years and go with her friends. And I
Speaker 1: would get jealous a lot of times because she was
Speaker 1: about an hour, hour and a half away, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, I'd only be there once a week,
Speaker 1: and that definitely caused friction in a relationship because I
Speaker 1: was terrified not because she would do something, but some
Speaker 1: dude would do something while she was drunk, which would
Speaker 1: turn into something you know what I mean. So uh,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, if that's not happening and
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I trust you, and you know you
Speaker 1: can go out. Sometimes I would say he needs to
Speaker 1: suck it up once in a while and go out
Speaker 1: with you because he, you know, yours girlfriend, he loves you.
Speaker 1: He needs to do that. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: think it's fine. And I say, though, it is so
Speaker 1: nice having a girlfriend, And it sounds like Eastern and Jared,
Speaker 1: you guys are in a very similar boat that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't consider myself a homebody, but I, um, definitely don't
Speaker 1: like going out, like I'll go out to the bar
Speaker 1: every once in all my friends. But it's so nice
Speaker 1: having a girlfriend that also does not really enjoy going
Speaker 1: out because it takes so much pressure off of like
Speaker 1: the concept of having to continuously go out and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, put a smile, not like put a smile
Speaker 1: on like you're having not having a good time otherwise.
Speaker 1: But it's just so nice not having that like pressure
Speaker 1: and anxiety of having a partner that's like always dragging
Speaker 1: you out of the house when you don't want to
Speaker 1: be dragged out of the house, you know. So there's
Speaker 1: definitely a compromise somewhere. Maybe he's not your person, but um,
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a silly reason to end
Speaker 1: a relationship over. Yeah, is anything else anything else you
Speaker 1: guys wanna talk about this week? I want to ask
Speaker 1: Easton a question actually really quick Eastern investigates. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and plug that real quick. I want to
Speaker 1: hear more about this. Well. Um, I uh, I made
Speaker 1: a little video the other day. Um. There there's uh,
Speaker 1: there's some stuff that interests me that I can't get
Speaker 1: out of my head. And so, um, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: making I just want to make some videos to like
Speaker 1: make the voices stop inside my mind. So what are
Speaker 1: you like most interested in to investigate? Like? Like, so
Speaker 1: the first I did the first episode the other day.
Speaker 1: You can find and saw my Instagram at Easton Island.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, Dean, Thank you so much for noticing.
Speaker 1: Um there's a movie theater chain called AMC. Probably heard
Speaker 1: about it in the news. Uh, And before the movie starts,
Speaker 1: they have this like pre show of like people enjoying
Speaker 1: the theater and like saying like, oh, silence your phones
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And there's this video of a
Speaker 1: guy eating popcorn and he gets scared by something on
Speaker 1: the screen. He throws a popcorn all over himself and
Speaker 1: it always made me laugh. I was obsessed with this guy.
Speaker 1: And then they changed it like a year ago to
Speaker 1: him just eating it like very intently, like not throwing
Speaker 1: the popcorn anywhere. The performance just like burned into my skull.
Speaker 1: I was so cutou. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love this is my favorite partb Go in the movie.
Speaker 1: And I I wanted to find him. I wanted I'm like,
Speaker 1: I need tracked on this actor. I wanted to learn
Speaker 1: more about it. So I got you know, my career
Speaker 1: and broadcasting started as a as a news guy. I
Speaker 1: was a radio reporter back in the day. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that hat back on. I hunted him down,
Speaker 1: I found him, I interviewed him. I all the dirt
Speaker 1: on making that pre show. I got all these interesting
Speaker 1: facts and uh, and I put it together in a
Speaker 1: little video. And UM, I don't know how many, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how often I'm gonna do this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, but like it's a little project I'm starting,
Speaker 1: you know. Maybe, um, maybe there's something coming down the
Speaker 1: line about about the coke freestyle machines. Maybe there's something
Speaker 1: coming about Dr phil as an Eminem. I don't know
Speaker 1: just this guy's Phil as an eminem or oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: he was an eminem. Wait what was the second one
Speaker 1: you said, Coke Machines. I hope he's going to get
Speaker 1: his eminem. Dr Phil a little toy in the background
Speaker 1: over there. Oh there he is. Yeah, Dr Phil's and eminem.
Speaker 1: Where have I seen that before? It's my favorite image
Speaker 1: that has ever existed. So for the listeners out there
Speaker 1: that obviously can't see what's going on right here now,
Speaker 1: Eastern is holding up a framed signed photo, I would
Speaker 1: assume Dr Phil is one that signed it. Dr Phil
Speaker 1: as a green eminem standing with his arms class clasps
Speaker 1: over him. I love It's something. My my wife got
Speaker 1: this for me for Christmas last year. She's like, she said,
Speaker 1: it's probably the only one that ever has existed. But yeah,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, Um, how did you go
Speaker 1: about tracking this guy down from the AMC preview thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about investigative journalism. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: different avenues you can take. Um. I called AMC, I
Speaker 1: called production companies that were involved with the with the project,
Speaker 1: I could not get anywhere. I posted on social media
Speaker 1: about how much I loved him and someone DM me
Speaker 1: and said they were his next door neighbor. So I
Speaker 1: tried so hard to find him and I failed, and
Speaker 1: then it fell into my lap as how those things
Speaker 1: on my lap? Hey, it's so funny that the next
Speaker 1: door neighbor knew that that was him. I wonder, like,
Speaker 1: does he go around telling people he is that guy
Speaker 1: from the AMC previews, or if his neighbor is just
Speaker 1: a big AMC movie goer, or if maybe there I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, like what is what is that
Speaker 1: whole situation? There? Were you before the interview with this
Speaker 1: young gentleman? Were you nervous? What was your thoughts? Like,
Speaker 1: what was your your emotional capacity going into it? I
Speaker 1: was very nervous. I was very nervous um and I
Speaker 1: haven't interviewed someone in a long time, so I was rusty.
Speaker 1: And then also I had read on the message boards
Speaker 1: this guy was going to do another podcast and he
Speaker 1: bailed at the last second. So I'm like, that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to me. I'm nobody. You know. He was gonna
Speaker 1: do it with um Slash Film that's like a film
Speaker 1: blog that like they're kind of big. He bailed on
Speaker 1: them with the last second. So I was really nervous
Speaker 1: about that, but no, he kept our It took a
Speaker 1: month to nail him down, but I got him quite
Speaker 1: Is he just in a high demand? What's his deal?
Speaker 1: He's quite the jet center he was, he was doing
Speaker 1: a lot of traveling, and I mean he's raking it
Speaker 1: off those royalties from him, so you obviously right. I
Speaker 1: mean they extended his contract another two years. Recover all
Speaker 1: of this in the interview. But yeah, he's, um, he's
Speaker 1: quite the quite the actor these days. But it's he's
Speaker 1: a really cool dude. And I learned so much of
Speaker 1: about this, like silly little video that made me laugh,
Speaker 1: and uh, it was. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun, like um, interviewing somebody again, it's been
Speaker 1: a long time. Most importantly, did it did it scratch
Speaker 1: the edch that you had? Did it was able to
Speaker 1: quiet down the voices that that you seem to not
Speaker 1: have been able to turn off? Yes? Yes, it did
Speaker 1: it very much? Did Uh. It made me feel fulfilled creatively,
Speaker 1: And um, it's one of those things like I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you guys both do stuff. I don't care
Speaker 1: if anyone like watches it or enjoy even enjoys it.
Speaker 1: For that matter, I just like needed to get that
Speaker 1: out of my brain and uh and now it's out
Speaker 1: and I can finally sleep and until the next the
Speaker 1: next one, Well, you said something about coke. Well then
Speaker 1: you got the Dr Philipino eminem What was the second one?
Speaker 1: You said, Coca Cola Freestyle. Have you seen these machines?
Speaker 1: They have moved theaters. They haven't like seven eleven's there
Speaker 1: the they're they're a touchscreen Coca Cola machine where you
Speaker 1: can like mix and match. Yeah, that machine is a
Speaker 1: very very interesting story, and it has um ties to
Speaker 1: uh advancements in medicine. It's um it's it awakens the
Speaker 1: weird things in people's brains. There's a lot to unpack
Speaker 1: with the Coke Freestyle machine. And I'm I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of diving into that thing. Cannot wait east that's
Speaker 1: the next one I'm doing. You want to know what's
Speaker 1: funny about those machines. My personal experience is there's almost
Speaker 1: too much choice, right, you have like the paradox of choice.
Speaker 1: But those things because you you have a cherry vanilla
Speaker 1: blueberry like all these things. And I get up there
Speaker 1: and every single time I just do like regular Dr
Speaker 1: Pepper or regular Coca Cola, because I like, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of the machines. It's too much power for
Speaker 1: one man to wield. And I'm sure, like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're gonna cover all this in your next East Investigates episode,
Speaker 1: But it is terrifying for me. Every time I see
Speaker 1: in those machines, it's it's fascinating. It's fascinating because, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're faced with the power of the gods, what
Speaker 1: do you do? You get? You get top water, you know,
Speaker 1: like most people freeze up. It's so interesting. Can I
Speaker 1: say something real quick, please? The water out of those
Speaker 1: machines is phenomenal. It comes out, it comes out a
Speaker 1: tenth of a degree above freezing. It might as well
Speaker 1: just come in as an ice cube. It is. It
Speaker 1: is so cold and so pure it is. It is
Speaker 1: Maybe the best place to get water is those machines.
Speaker 1: One investigation I want to do is why the coke,
Speaker 1: the Coca cola at McDonald's from the found machine is
Speaker 1: a thousand times better than any Coca Cola I've ever
Speaker 1: had in my entire life. They change at the CEO
Speaker 1: two level. I don't care what anybody says. McDonald's does
Speaker 1: something to their coke to make it like when I
Speaker 1: drink a coca like my face like it like gives
Speaker 1: me tinkled. I think Easton's got some inside scoop he's
Speaker 1: about to drop on us. Do not get me started. Well,
Speaker 1: at least stop the time where this show's going over? Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, all right, well we gotta get going anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're definitely too long. But I wanted Easton investigates on
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola and McDonald's because I know you're on
Speaker 1: the same page with me. There's something in there. They
Speaker 1: do something to that coke. Listen, we can't we can't
Speaker 1: styme me this guy Eastern. You gotta tell us really quick,
Speaker 1: really quick, really quick. So okay, Jared, at your your
Speaker 1: coffee shop, you're probably have a soda fountain, right, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have a soda of like a little tap thing.
Speaker 1: Here's what here's what you do, uh at most places
Speaker 1: in your coffee shop included I'm afraid you have cold
Speaker 1: water coming in and then you have a box of syrup,
Speaker 1: and the cold carbonated water mixes with the syrup. That's
Speaker 1: what creates soda. The syrup is sitting at room temperature,
Speaker 1: often times above because it's sitting in like a storeroom,
Speaker 1: it's hot. So what happens is the soda comes out,
Speaker 1: it's like mildly cool, and then when you put the
Speaker 1: ice in, the ice melts waters it down. Then the
Speaker 1: soda is cold, but it's a water down soda. What
Speaker 1: McDonald's does. They chill the syrup. The syrup sits in
Speaker 1: a cooler, so then when the syrup mixes with the water,
Speaker 1: it's already ice cold. So when you get it, it's
Speaker 1: nice and crisp. And also the last thing Coca Cola
Speaker 1: makes an ice filled her that they only sell to
Speaker 1: McDonald's sons of Fishes. I worked for the dude in
Speaker 1: a movie theater who owned a sandwich shop, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I try to reverse engineer the filter and I couldn't
Speaker 1: figure it out. What does this filter do? It like
Speaker 1: filters the ice, and it filters the water in a
Speaker 1: way where it reacts with the Coca Cola products in
Speaker 1: like a very unique and delicious way. It makes magic happen.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Yes, that's why the mcdal's a
Speaker 1: coca is so good. What does a chilled syrup. I
Speaker 1: feel like it would it would make it more challenging
Speaker 1: for a chilled syrup to mix with the colder water,
Speaker 1: right like the warmer the syrup is, the more act
Speaker 1: of the molecules will be for the mixing process, the
Speaker 1: more the more viscous it is, and the easier it
Speaker 1: is to flow through the tubing. But you know, and
Speaker 1: that's where the precision of the Coca Cola McDonald's comes in,
Speaker 1: you know, because you mean, we're really getting back into
Speaker 1: temper grade chemistry if we're talking about viscosity of syrups
Speaker 1: for coke machines. Yeah, that's when we know we've gone
Speaker 1: a little too far. But I agree with you. It's
Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept and I'm sure it's a very
Speaker 1: very fine science that it clearly some people have really
Speaker 1: figured out. Anyways, that's gonna do it. Yeah, Easton, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see more east investigates out of you. Man.
Speaker 1: You're you are just you're probably one of my favorite
Speaker 1: people in the whole wide world. I hope you know that. Yeah. Yeah, Anyways,
Speaker 1: big thank you to our guests the polus Is. Be
Speaker 1: sure to check them out at Empty Nestor's Unite YouTube
Speaker 1: they have post every Wednesday in every Sunday. Um, big
Speaker 1: thank you to Jared for at least watching a little
Speaker 1: bit of The Bachelor Paradise finale, and then you're speaking
Speaker 1: on everything as if he had watched the entire season.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Um, that's gonna about doing. For
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