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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Et No. Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. We got a full house

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Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Mickey and I are dressed like twins. Yeah, it looks

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Speaker 1: so cute. Rider cub rider cup, full house, four races

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Speaker 1: right there you go, There you go. He's back on

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Speaker 1: the little little midgic guy. What's his name? Twins? Those twins? Right?

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Speaker 1: Was not the name of the movie? Swins? Been a

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Speaker 1: few weeks, right, it had all been here it has Yes.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Kyle Yeoman's our producer, did a Yeoman

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Speaker 1: job last week. Then we ever sudden, Mickey, we're both out.

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Speaker 1: We've been two dad jokes off the bat. Thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: We are back. Show is back. My ears were burning

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Speaker 1: all while I was on the crew and ever Sin

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Speaker 1: was cruising last week. How was that? Because it was okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, little super Bowl cruise, black man on boats

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Speaker 1: cross the ocean not quite my thing. You know, where

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Speaker 1: were you? Never ends? Well? Where are you cruising? We

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Speaker 1: went to East Caribbean, uh, not pointing, but Dominican Republic. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Grand Turks. Oh really yeah, yeah, I was shaking hands

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Speaker 1: with the fishes. They were cool. You can see him clearly.

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Speaker 1: They talking to me, coaxing me out to the deep ocean.

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Speaker 1: I had to come back. It's fine, man, very good. Fine.

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Speaker 1: I thought about you guys, not once. That's good. You

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Speaker 1: should not once. I think about you. Nick you where

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Speaker 1: were you last week? I was in Colorado's skiing. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, yep, that shave sense? Yeah, following me right, man,

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Speaker 1: there's a little Shannon. Channon had the best line here.

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Speaker 1: About five minutes ago. He saw me and he saw

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Speaker 1: the beard, and he goes, oh, your beard matches your shirt, dude,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit more white than that beard. Every still, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I won't be there testing are you protesting the

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Speaker 1: product that you're sponsor me? It won't be there for long.

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Speaker 1: This is his pre Blitz beard. Once the Blitz comes

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Speaker 1: back on TV. Okay, he shaves, but he looks very distinguished.

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Speaker 1: He needs to keep February, so it may go by

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Speaker 1: the end of the week. I'm not sure. All I

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Speaker 1: have to do is work out once and sweat and

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I'm gonna tranquilize you in shaving myself. Well,

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Speaker 1: anything happened since we last convene? Less well for Robin

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Speaker 1: I last. I'm trying to think, Yeah, we talked. Notice

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Speaker 1: I've got my super Bowl cap. On the road to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl starts now. Dallas won the super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl that Dallas did wear the super Bowl. That

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Speaker 1: was dad joke prediction in past week. Ye. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, this is my CBS super Bowl cap. Next

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Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl is back on CBS in Tampa. Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Great moments for me. I'll be there, Yeah, a few

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Speaker 1: but still tamp Do they have enough hotels? No? I

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Speaker 1: didn't think so, because the last time I covered the

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Speaker 1: was good. That's and it was one of those hotels

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Speaker 1: where the door opens on to the to walk away

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Speaker 1: through it's raining hard, then put the towel down in

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Speaker 1: from that was a strange trip. So you have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good memory from that Super Bowl. I do I do.

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Speaker 1: First thing I did was dice and I we got there, like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, forget these guys. They've been to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl before. Let's go check this out. Man. We went

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Speaker 1: to the stadium. You know, it was closed, of course,

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Speaker 1: just reminiscing. Man, you know, like, hey man, we finally

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Speaker 1: made it here. We were on a sorry Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: team and years was two and fourteen last year. I

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Speaker 1: went through that season and then the one in fifteen,

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Speaker 1: four games, about four games and two years. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: was there when he tomorrow's national signing Day. I was

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Speaker 1: there in Hobbes, New Mexico, and Timmy Smith signed his

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Speaker 1: letter of intent with Texas Tech Us. Now were not

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Speaker 1: beginning of football, and we'll see Bill sitting there leather

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Speaker 1: helmets or no helmets. And Timmy Smith, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're talking Cowboys, he was at Dallas cow here's the

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Speaker 1: story about Timmy Smith. Okay, Timmy Smith did not have

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Speaker 1: an academic scholarship to Texas Tech. Okay, Okay, it was

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Speaker 1: definitely a football scholarship, all right. Well, when he was

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Speaker 1: He wanted to check out his Texas Tech guy, Timmy Smith. Well,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brodsky's a running backs coach, and my brother in law,

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Speaker 1: Billy Breedlove to this day, still tells the story, says,

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Speaker 1: I can just remember that coach barking it Timmy Smith

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Speaker 1: saying Timmy, this is your left and this is your right,

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Speaker 1: almost Super Bowl MVP, right, and disrespecting him. And that

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Speaker 1: was after he had played in the Super Bowl too, exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had one of those running backs in high school. Oh,

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Speaker 1: which was which? All right? So what was your takeaway

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Speaker 1: didn't make sense. It's incredible. It's increat he has something

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are built for the long haul or the rams,

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Speaker 1: old that to me, that that that's what really spoke

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Speaker 1: he opened? How is he How do you let that happen?

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Speaker 1: But that's when you realize, as a safety, you'd better

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Speaker 1: here he is isolated basically one on one coverage. I

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Speaker 1: He covered him to the inside. And what pressure that

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Speaker 1: The past wasn't that good. Otherwise he was running with

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Speaker 1: it and and he got and Mahomes got hit. He

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Speaker 1: was after he delivered. That's the thing with Mahomes. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: because he has a strong arm all you want. If

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Speaker 1: And so fluttered up there. That's why Tyreek had to

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Speaker 1: he was ye to trade. So what about the corner underneath? Okay,

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Speaker 1: there was some criticism on him that he should have dropped,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what coverage they were. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was taking. He ran across almost a bunch route mentality

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Speaker 1: would have helped if he could have dropped back, played

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Speaker 1: more conservatively third and fifteen and that flutter, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would be away for him to make the play, probably

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Speaker 1: of his entire career. That's why the Chiefs deep I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's why the Chiefs of the Ninets defense is known

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Speaker 1: for being the best defense in the league. They don't

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Speaker 1: make those mistakes in the seasons. Why the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: creates pressures, as you know, best pass defense in the

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Speaker 1: Oh right, I was salivating when it was thirty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I might get a duck. Just give me a duck.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick it off. That was one four

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Speaker 1: and then they didn't take advantage of it. Best quarterback

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Speaker 1: a half quarters they that's why they were struggling. You know,

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Speaker 1: too many times, and they would get they were coming

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Speaker 1: get done. I think it speaks to once again, why

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's the new head coach here, because they are

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Speaker 1: sold on Dak and they found a veteran coach who

425
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Speaker 1: has been around Hall of Fame quarterbacks and they feel

426
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Speaker 1: he can help elevate Dak to another level. That's that's

427
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Speaker 1: a big reason why McCarthy, who was also sold on

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Speaker 1: Dak in the interview process. Yeah, Stephen said that he

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Speaker 1: had a video reel of Dak going back to his

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431
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Speaker 1: Saturday and throughout his career and showed the progression and

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Speaker 1: where how he's evolved in this league. And I'm sure

433
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Speaker 1: that that played a huge role as well in them connecting,

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Speaker 1: you know, absolutely. So the Sunday big news drop on

435
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday was well, looks like Cowboys are gonna

436
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Speaker 1: be franchise tagging y Yeah, if I see that one

437
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Speaker 1: more time, it's fired up. It's like, of course they're

438
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Speaker 1: gonna If they don't get them signed, they're gonna franchise him.

439
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Speaker 1: And then there's the crawler every day and every day

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Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, I said, oh, I guess I missed something.

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Speaker 1: So that was are they going to sign him? Well,

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Speaker 1: if they will if they don't have a contract. But

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Speaker 1: they don't have a contract. I mean, what are the

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Speaker 1: odds of them going franchise versus you know, signing him

445
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Speaker 1: to this big deal. Well, you can start franchising guys

446
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Speaker 1: on February twenty fifth, and I think you have to ten.

447
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Speaker 1: So yeah, if it doesn't get done by them, they'll franchise.

448
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Speaker 1: And there has been rumors out there saying, well, Dak

449
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Speaker 1: wants more, the Cowboys are really holding out. What is

450
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Speaker 1: the truth is he does he want more than what

451
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Speaker 1: the what's offered on the table? Is that to hold up? Well,

452
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Speaker 1: if you listened to what Stephen Jones said, dude and

453
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Speaker 1: mans they were going to put they they said and

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to come out and say it, that

455
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Speaker 1: they were going to make him a top five paid

456
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Speaker 1: quarterback and it wasn't enough. But what you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: is what they're asking for. That's one thing, and we's

458
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Speaker 1: been out of this whole narrative. What are they asking for?

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Speaker 1: It must be crazy because it seems like they had

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Speaker 1: an impass right and even more so now when Dak

461
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Speaker 1: basically spoke up at the Super Bowl well basically saying yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Mick. What he told the morning he sounded

463
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Speaker 1: you know a little frustrated this hasn't been done. And

464
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Speaker 1: the question was to Dak, what would you show up

465
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Speaker 1: for the voluntary program without a deal, and he said,

466
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Speaker 1: we'll just cross that when we get to it. But

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Speaker 1: also and so they also said it's time for them

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Speaker 1: to pay me and you can print that. Wow. So

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Speaker 1: so you get away from the from the comfis you

470
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Speaker 1: know what happens. Number one, there's an agent telling you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's our stance. At number two, the NFLPA puts pressure

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Speaker 1: on you to make sure you don't give a hometown discount.

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Speaker 1: And so because they want to see everybody making it

474
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Speaker 1: much and you reset what the quarterback market is. So

475
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Speaker 1: he has an obligation to all other players to get

476
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Speaker 1: as much right he can get in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: you know, you're there with all the NFLPA guys at

478
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and specifically all other quarterbacks. He has

479
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Speaker 1: that r yeah and looks so you know, the last

480
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Speaker 1: four years and the Cowboys know this, he's been one

481
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Speaker 1: of the best bargains in the league in terms of

482
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Speaker 1: his salaries a fourth round rookie contract versus what he's

483
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Speaker 1: done in the league. The Cowboys want to get him signed.

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Speaker 1: The report came out ever since I think Sunday morning

485
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Speaker 1: ESPN saying it's likely heading that way towards the tag. Well, okay, fine,

486
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Speaker 1: but there are still six weeks weeks until they have

487
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Speaker 1: to make a decision whether the tax. You know, so

488
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Speaker 1: six weeks to try to get something done, A lot

489
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Speaker 1: can happen. And it reminds me a little bit mick

490
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Speaker 1: of the DeMarcus Lawrence thing last year, where we felt

491
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Speaker 1: like players don't like the tag. Okay, they don't want

492
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Speaker 1: to be tagged, they want the long term security. That's

493
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Speaker 1: that's fair and natural. And we thought, we sat here,

494
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Speaker 1: and what if they don't get this thing done with

495
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Speaker 1: the Marcus He's got to have shoulder surgery, all stuff.

496
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Speaker 1: It got done, and it got done, and the deadline

497
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Speaker 1: on that was basically when they got it done, because

498
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Speaker 1: he had to have that surgery in order to be

499
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Speaker 1: ready for the start of the season. Yeah, by the draft.

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Speaker 1: He basically had to have that thing done otherwise, you know. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: and even after you tag him, you still got five

502
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Speaker 1: months to get him signed or you can't sign them

503
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: to then of course, you know, but again the voluntary program,

504
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Speaker 1: you got a new coach and a tweaked offense, and

505
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Speaker 1: that's where than normal because it is a new coach.

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Speaker 1: So then who's in the driver a seat? Then? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because based on bad information right there, then you would

508
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Speaker 1: say that's in the driver seat if he wants to

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Speaker 1: go that route, which is a route he has never

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Speaker 1: been shown to take. Right. He's always been the company

511
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Speaker 1: man when it came to the kneeling and the Black

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Speaker 1: Lives matter. You know, he was in lockstep with Jerry Jones.

513
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Speaker 1: The entire team was so man, this is different for

514
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Speaker 1: me to hear him being so bold and sounded like

515
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Speaker 1: Everson Walls or somebody. Right, I love him, you know.

516
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Speaker 1: And it's not the Cowboys fault that he got drafted

517
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Speaker 1: in the fourth round, right, that's sort of you know

518
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Speaker 1: the argument. So you were gone Alexander Wright from the

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520
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Speaker 1: only twenty seven picks in the first round, so he

522
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Speaker 1: was technically a second round pick, right, And his agent

523
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Speaker 1: was saying, no, he's a first round pick. You got

524
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Speaker 1: to get paid like a first round pick. And the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys like, sorry, it says second round here first pick,

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Speaker 1: and that he didn't go to training camp along with

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Speaker 1: Emmett and he signed first, and then Emmett got done

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Speaker 1: the week of the season, but he missed because that

529
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Speaker 1: was their argument. So you're I think the dilemma now is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we go down this franchise tag route, will Dad

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Speaker 1: be that guy? Will he be the one that choses

532
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533
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Speaker 1: still don't get to sign him and he's he has

534
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Speaker 1: to play the tag out for the whole season. I

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Speaker 1: really don't think it makes that much of a difference.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven million guaranteed for the one year tag. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean he wasn't gonna do come in and tank.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do yeah right. I mean I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that he's stuck. I'm saying that's just how he is

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Speaker 1: as a player. I'm not gonna come in and let

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Speaker 1: my team down because I got tagged. No, I wouldn't

542
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: think so either, And so to me, as much as

543
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Speaker 1: we want to see him get I want to see

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Speaker 1: him get paid. I think it would be only fair.

545
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Speaker 1: You can look down, you know, Bills probably can look

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Speaker 1: that we could say that, Dak, did you know that

548
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549
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550
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Speaker 1: I don't think it matter. So I don't think it's

552
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,800
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Speaker 1: Ye all right, Um, why else on the Cowboys? What

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Speaker 1: before we do the next show? Or what are we at?

635
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Speaker 1: The third? Fourth? Fourth? So next Tuesday, Next Tuesday, you

636
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: can start signing guys with expiring contracts. Two guys. Why receivers?

637
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Cooper a right number two priorities behind Randa Randall. Cob

638
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: You gotta get him signed. You gotta get him signed

639
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: unless you're sitting creating the draft and you got one

640
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: of these studs whide receivers coming out that you can

641
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: really count on. I say you stick with these guys.

642
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: I think Cobbs more likely to come back because of

643
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: McCarthy here, I am. Yeah. I think. I don't know

644
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: if it's I don't know if you're probably a tip

645
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: him over Cooper, but yeah, I think if he was

646
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: leaning towards leaving now he's he's running towards stage not

647
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: just leaning to McCarthy might have a saying it too.

648
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like, of course I want because because not only

649
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: did he want his own assistant coaches, he probably wants

650
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: somebody that has been loyal to him in that locker room.

651
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: And when when you think about it, Jason Witten's return,

652
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: if if it's a return, would clearly affect Cobb's output. Yes, yes,

653
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: and and that is not good because I'm pretty sure

654
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: last year there were many times when Kyle was saying,

655
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: come to me, it's my this is my time of

656
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: the game, and we were not because we were trying

657
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: to get it to one of our tight ends who

658
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: just happened to be a former commentator. Which, by the way,

659
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, Jarwin's restricted, so they've got to give him

660
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: a tender at some point. And you would think of

661
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: all the time you've spent developing him, you want him

662
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: back and say he Wit did the media car wash

663
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, and I think one of the

664
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: things he said to one of the state maybe Rich Eisen,

665
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: was you know, I understand there's a new coach and

666
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: we've got to have open discussions, and you'd love to

667
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: end it here as a player, but it may have

668
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: to be somewhere else. You never know, so I don't

669
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: really know where it's going to be exactly. I gotta

670
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: say he's you know, just form a player's opinion. I

671
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: guess I'm a pundit now. I just I think if

672
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: he's going to come back at all, it would have

673
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: to be under a player coach type of situation. I

674
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: just don't see how he can help this team going

675
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: forward when we need to start thinking of getting younger

676
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: and have more consistency. I think if he's going to

677
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: come in, it should be clearly to just be just

678
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: in the mentor type of status for these two really

679
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: upcoming tight ends that we have in Cheltzon and Jawin.

680
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: I think those two guys are NFL. They're ready to

681
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: be NFL capable tight ends. They are ready now. Okay,

682
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: So Jarwin a restricted free agent, if you don't have

683
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: a deal done with him, what kind of tender would

684
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: you give him? First round? Second round? Or he's a

685
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: free agent, so the low tender I think the second

686
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: second he was he was a college free agent and

687
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: were undrafted. So if you don't, I mean so. And

688
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the way that works is if a team were to

689
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: sign him. They would not if if he does not

690
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: have a first or second round tender, that team can

691
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: sign him without giving up a draft conversation, whereas if

692
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: it was a second round tender, that team would have

693
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: to pay the Cowboys a second round pick. I'm thinking

694
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: way back here, but I think like when Miles Austin

695
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: was coming up and they wanted to keep him, but

696
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't had been really established it, I think they

697
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: put the second round tam. I mean that that kind

698
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: of adequately scares teams off. I feel like from I

699
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: think if you if you really like a guy, because

700
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: it's basically a one year deal and I don't know

701
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: the second what it's going to come to. Probably last

702
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: year and a half million or so. Last year, three

703
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: second round tender was three point one million, first round

704
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: was four point five million, and the low tender was

705
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: two million. Yeah, so you got to do the second

706
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure this year if it was that three

707
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: over three, then probably getting closer to four and a

708
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: half something like that. But it's going to be your

709
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: starting tight end. When do they have to make that?

710
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: Is it by mid March? They have to make that decision?

711
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Restricted qualifying offers. I think it's by March eighteenth or

712
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: something like that. Right, well, start which is the eighteenth

713
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: or so, you can start doing it at some point

714
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: this month, right, you have to have it. No one

715
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: can give him a bid, like I think it's like

716
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: within two weeks of the draft, right, that's on the

717
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: back end of it establishing the tenders. So you have

718
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, by time free and they've got

719
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: a couple other guys, right, I think Cooper Rush is restricted,

720
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, jar one's the one that really stands out

721
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: what they do there, got a lot of work to do,

722
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: a lot. We look at all the free agents, I mean,

723
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Everson named Randall Cobb, Maury Cooper, that's I mean, that's

724
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. You look on defense. Let's get

725
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: into Byron Jones, Link Collins, Everson, Everson on the Year

726
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: in Special. I was thinking about that coming in Burry

727
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Church and it's you can watch it online. It's in

728
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: bits and pieces on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Year

729
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and Special with Michael Irvin and Everson and Burry Church,

730
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: and we were talking about free agency and then the

731
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: needs and Burry Church said that secondary was the biggest

732
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: needed upgrade and they started talking about safeties and Everson say, well,

733
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: say what Biban Jones to safety? I said, and your

734
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: Church went off because he's experienced that. And then I

735
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: just start talking my way at cornerback. You've got your

736
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: best corner that I think, I said, can't catch a

737
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: cold in Alaska with ice cubes in his pockets or

738
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: something like that. And I want to say more because

739
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: of course I think we've all heard it before. The

740
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: ice cubes can go anywhere on your body and much deeper,

741
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: and that would be a little bit more graphic, but

742
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: either way, I still can't catch it. So that's kind

743
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: of where we had. So you had a governor on you, yes, so,

744
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I think, and I still think this

745
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: guy's I think Biben Jones, but at his experience now

746
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: based on his experience with Barry Church because obviously they

747
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: had a big impact on Barried Church in the psychic

748
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: because he went off. When I suggested that you put

749
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: Bivan Jones at safe, I actually retweeted that, and as

750
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: I quoted, you said, your best quarterback, I can't catch

751
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: a cold in Alaska with ice cubes in his pot

752
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: He can't, he can't, And we're real about this guy

753
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: when the last time Byrn's got an interception of his career,

754
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: and he had he had had two in the last

755
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: two years. But when you're talking about the person who

756
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: was so athletic coming out of the combine, it's not

757
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: hard to take it from cornerback who it's a very

758
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: demanding position in regards to immediate contact with a wide

759
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: receiver to where you're going back ten yards back from

760
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Now you can use that intellectual

761
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: and that athletic ability to read plays, sniff out bad passes,

762
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: and make more of an impact in the ball game.

763
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: We have not had a safety that can do that

764
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: for us. Heath was doing his best. Heath is about

765
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: to come out with both arms typed behind his back

766
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: next year because that's the way his labors are going

767
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: to have him feeling. And now you're talking about needing

768
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: someone physical, you need someone intelligent in that defensive secondary

769
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: and the safety by and Joe to be the guy.

770
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: He had Jeff Heath playing for them, that Sorensen. When

771
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: one Thornhill went down, then Sorenson got the opportunity and

772
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: that would be the role that you would be looking

773
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: forward for Jeff he but Byron Jones had that role, right,

774
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: and he didn't do anything. And that's what that's why

775
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Barry Church went off on him. Yeah, and Mike don't

776
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: do that. And let's consider this, Mike Nolan when he

777
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: was asked about cornerbacks, he's or dbs, he said, I

778
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: want ball hawking defensive backs. And when Jones did this

779
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: his rookie year, right, it was his rookie year, did both.

780
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: But I'm saying he played safety his rookie Yeah, he

781
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: dabbled at corner, but I think he was mostly a safety.

782
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: He's got to be having more experience. Now you're telling

783
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: me he didn't learn from his years. He's gonna be

784
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: the same guy that he was his rookie year, maybe

785
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: second year too. But it was a better cornerback than

786
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: he was a safe. But here's no doubt he can cover.

787
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about making plays on the ball. And

788
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Al Harris, you put him in the position of that

789
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: number twenty for the Cassidy Chiefs last night. I'm sorry

790
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: for the forty nines last night. Right, you can't him

791
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: on the wide receiver like that. You're getting the different

792
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: UH outcome as opposed to a safety back, then what

793
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: do you need that ability to cover? Yeah, in your

794
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: second day. Here's the thing though, he's he's unrestricted and

795
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: usually corners make more money. Does he He has the

796
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: option to go somewhere and play what he wants to play.

797
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Now we'll see what is what his market value is

798
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: if he tests the market, if he's a game change

799
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: of safety, he can he can make all the money. Okay,

800
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: he may not, he may not want him place. You know,

801
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: he's true. You know he kind of had his coming

802
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: out party as a corner. Here's the bottom baking. Either

803
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to sit back there and look pretty at cornerback,

804
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: but you can't do at safety. You gotta go out

805
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: there and make some plays. And now that's what you

806
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: had to do. Here's the bottom line on him. Because

807
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: everybody's saying the Cowboys can't afford to resign him, Well,

808
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: my next question is why can't they afford to resign him?

809
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 1: Because if other teams are looking at what you just said,

810
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: why are they going to pay so much money more

811
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: than what the Cowboys would offer him? Because he's still

812
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: two interceptions, right, But the problem they look at him

813
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: but a Pro Bowl, I mean you use that reference.

814
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: Was your analogy was Terrence Williams a couple of years

815
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: ago where it felt like, oh they Cowboys can't resign

816
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Terrence at wide receiver. Well the market cooled and they

817
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: brought him back. It is different, I think with Byron

818
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: because he has proven to be a Pro Bowl caliber player,

819
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: but he's the interceptions are still the same. Right at corner,

820
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: at corner, at corner, you put this man at safety,

821
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: he can roam, he has the ability. Guy. You remember

822
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: when he came out, he was the best thing the

823
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: Combine had seen in years. Amazing athlete, amazing. Everything he

824
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: did was was jaw dropping. Well then if if they

825
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: do that, then you're in the market for a cornerback

826
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: because I ain't trusting Jordan Lewis out there for sixty

827
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: plays a game. Have you ever heard of before they

828
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: before we saw Minnesota, before we played Bfalo, maybe you

829
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: guys had I had never heard of any of their cornerbacks,

830
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: not one of them. And man, which seems Buffalo Okay,

831
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: you can go, Well, I got kid from LSU White

832
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: at corner. Yeah, you got You had guys back there

833
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: making plays not just on the Cowboys but against the Patriots.

834
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the a formidable secondary. These are not big

835
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: names back there. You just gotta go find some dogs, man,

836
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: they don't have to be names. Just go find some dogs.

837
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: And that's what being the defensive back is all about.

838
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: A guy that's determined. Not necessarily the best playmaker, but

839
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: you got to be determined and put me behind a

840
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: good defensive line. And you're talking about a guy not

841
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: just I'm not just talking about basement bogging basement things.

842
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys that can make plays that you

843
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: can depend on. That's all I'm talking about. Al Harris,

844
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: I guess in his interview when I went back and

845
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: listened to it yesterday, said I'm big on touching the ball,

846
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: touching the ball every day. So well they judge what

847
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: they're looking for. I know. I mean, they drilled the

848
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: hell out of no he means in the game and well,

849
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: of course, but somebody that can do it. That is

850
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the biggest thing holding this defense back my opinion, they've

851
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: been middle of the pack to lower pack. Taways always good, right,

852
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: yeah for you. I mean they've been top ten I

853
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: think in total yards and all that stuff, but they

854
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: haven't impacted the game takeaways. Here's you mentioned Indevius White.

855
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I know for a fact the Cowboys love Tredevious White.

856
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: They did, Okay, Taco Charlton in that draft in twenty

857
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: seventeen was a twenty seventh pick. Tredevious White was taken

858
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: by Buffalo one pick ahead of them. Second round, the

859
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys took Cheetawawoozier, and then they took Jordan Lewis in

860
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: the third round. I bet you if Tradevious White had

861
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: not been taken by Buffalo one pick ahead of Taco Charleton,

862
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: the cow Boys would have taken Tradevious White there. Yeah,

863
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: And that's just kind of the way things work. And

864
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further. I also know they

865
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: love Juju Smith Schuster, Okay, and who was taken right

866
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: before Juju Smith Schuster in that draft, Cheeta A. Woozier.

867
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: So let's let's say Buffalo doesn't take Tradevius White, the

868
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: Cowboys take Tradevius White. So they've got their cornerback right there,

869
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: and then they can and then they could have taken

870
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: the wide receiver Juju Smith Schuster in the second round.

871
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: I've talked to guys scouts before, not about those guys particular,

872
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: but just you can play that game. Yeah, I know,

873
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: and it can drive you crazy if you do it,

874
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: because you could just go back for years and it's always,

875
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's a clump of guys and you're not

876
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, but we know that they because they had

877
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: them in for visits and they love those guys and

878
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Yeah, things could have played out well if

879
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you go back to was it twenty fifteen when they

880
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: took Martin was a twenty fourteen fourteen fourteen mark, right,

881
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: so you know who they wanted. They wanted the linebacker

882
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh right, try Shasier, Shasier and it was like, oh, now,

883
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: what do we do? Pittsburgh took Shasier and that's when

884
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: the whole thing with the A and M quarterback came

885
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: up and then it was like him, yeah XFL quarterback

886
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: l is he in? The L is not now? But

887
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: by the way, anything, guys going to the game next.

888
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the game, but I'm gonna watch it.

889
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: As the Dallas Renegades opened the XFL season at four

890
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: o'clock on Sunday, Coach Bob Bob stoops coach fifty yard

891
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 1: line seats, not you know, very healthy enough, to start

892
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: the first game. I don't. I don't think that Landry

893
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: Jones is healthy enough talking to renegades here. Maybe try

894
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Land stud Yard playing by the way, talking an interview

895
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: with Lance Dunbar. He's got some dreads working night. Okay, okay, yeah,

896
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: do they make him cut their hand before the game?

897
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Can talk? If you do todos for years and years? Okay.

898
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: So here's how nerdy I a might look at the

899
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: schedule because I don't. I don't think I'm gonna be

900
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: back in time for that game on Sunday. But uh,

901
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: they're on the road the next two weeks, and then

902
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: the next game they're back at home. I'm gonna go, yeah,

903
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: sit and stands. Hey, there's there's guys on these rosters

904
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: that I've heard of, which is different from that Spring

905
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: league last year. The Alliance of American Football, and of

906
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 1: course Darryl Johnston is the director of player person Get ticket.

907
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: You can get some tickets here? Yeah, I try, all right?

908
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: I think that does it? Yeah, Okay, that do it?

909
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: We talked cowboys, so who else? So last week I

910
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: had to bail out early other free agents, other free

911
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: agents that we need that we really need. Well on

912
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: the cornerback front. Anthony Brown is a free agent. Would

913
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: he be a priority to kind of protect yourself for?

914
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: He missed half the season and I can't imagine he's

915
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: got much market value. It's just hard because with a

916
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: new staff, what they're looking, don't know what they value.

917
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: And when we talk to him last week, I know,

918
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: skip pizza. This is about the running back. So I

919
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: love Zeke and Tony Pollard. But but I was going

920
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: to say, but we haven't really gotten into the personnel

921
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: side of things as of last week. It's more talking,

922
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, philosophy and so good. He's under wrapp. We

923
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: have no problem with him. Yeah, now, and then on

924
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: the defensive line, you got MALIEK. Collins and Robert Quinn.

925
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: Can you get one of them back? I gotta have

926
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: Quinn back, right, Michael, And I'm restricted, I think restricted

927
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: thirty five, going on thirty six, maybe retiring. Do you

928
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: think so at thirty four? He turns it turned thirty five? Yeah,

929
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't care how I'm looking at the outcome. I'm

930
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: looking at what he did. I don't really care about

931
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: the age itself. If that's right, Brady should have been

932
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: gone a long time ago. I'm talking about if you're

933
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: talking to the age. Yeah, that's one thing. If you know,

934
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying retire him. He may have that in

935
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: his mind, is what I'm saying. Well, I hope not. Yeah,

936
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: I hope. I hope that he feels rejuvenated with a

937
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: new coach. Sometimes that makes a big difference. And you

938
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: guys are thinking one thing like, okay, if Jason Garrett

939
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: comes back, man, a lot of you, you know, right,

940
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking things like that. Then all of a sudden,

941
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: you got a new coach come in. Oh hey, guys,

942
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: you know you just thought to feel a little different

943
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: about your chances, and you say, why not roll the dice.

944
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: Here's your defensive line free agents. Michael Bennett, Malie Collins,

945
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: Christian Covington, Kerry Hyder, Robert Quinn, Daniel Ross is restricted

946
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: and Antoine Woods is exclusive rights, which means so everybody,

947
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: he's not going anything everybody. It's a long way. And

948
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: then you gotta add, will Tyrone Crawford come back after

949
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: dual hipster? No? Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I

950
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: promise you. I'm still a worried about Vandress, I really am.

951
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: And Crawford has a year left, it's at a high number.

952
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: But if he can be if he comes back, he's

953
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: coming at a different salary. Okay, but coming off the

954
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: if you if you're trying to be a multiple defense

955
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: with Mike Nolan, I think he could fit that if

956
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: he's healthy, because he can kind of do whatever you

957
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: need him to do across the front. Yeah, and he's

958
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: a leader. Man, there's this time if he's willing. Yeah, yeah,

959
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: you have to manage his time, you know, somebody coming

960
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: off with those injuries and replace me as you got them. Well, yeah,

961
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, we sit here and talk about the offense

962
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: and talk about DAK. The problem is the defense because

963
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: they did not win a game when they didn't score

964
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: thirty points. Sometimes you gotta win twenty four twenty one,

965
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, and and they never did it. The Super

966
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: Bowl should have been won, what twenty four twenty right

967
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: until the garbage touchdown? Right? Correct? Well, and if the Niners,

968
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, are able to get some first downs at

969
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: the end of the game, they won at twenty to seventeen.

970
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: What's going back to that. Shanahan's taken a lot of heat.

971
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: He's taken a lot of heat. You know what I

972
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: think I think Atlanta Falcon's Patriots Super Bowl is feeding

973
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: into some of that because they twenty eight three all that.

974
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: But I went back and watched the game again last night,

975
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Nerdy me, and you know, there were things that happened

976
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: that were out of his control that it wasn't his fault,

977
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: like well, he didn't run the ball enough or he

978
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: threw the ball too much. We're back to the whole thing.

979
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Whatever works, is right, you know, this whole thing about

980
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: the half that you know, and you know in Troy

981
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of started it by saying, oh, they're not going

982
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: to call time out. You know, I thought the same thing. Okay,

983
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: But as I told you yesterday, it's like, here's what

984
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: it would have happened had had they left they called

985
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: time out, and they don't, and they got a punt.

986
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: How close did that guy come on the punt to

987
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: throwing the ball back and getting it down at the

988
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: two yard line? Right? And now now San Francisco's got

989
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: the ball at the two with a minute to go,

990
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: and Kansas City's got all three timeouts, so you're gonna

991
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: have to come out otherwise you're punting and they're gonna

992
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: call timeout, timeout, timeout, and they're gonna get the ball

993
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: back at the fifty forty yard line and now, And

994
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what he was thinking. He wasn't thinking, Oh,

995
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: I got to take the ball and score. He was thinking,

996
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I can't let them score. I can't score. I think

997
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: you're you're onto something. Everson talked about how the defense

998
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't make the plays. That's not that's not Kyle Shanahan

999
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: calling plays. Jimmy Gee's got Emmanuel Sanders deep. He's got

1000
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: me right, I mean, play the game. That's to play

1001
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: the game. And then he got criticized for throwing the

1002
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: ball in the fourth quarter. Well, if you go look

1003
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: at their last possession, I counted up eight passes they

1004
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: had they threw after it was twenty four to twenty. Well,

1005
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: of course you're you only got a minute or so left.

1006
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: You got to throw the ball every down. So it

1007
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: wasn't like he abandoned their game plan in the fourth quarter.

1008
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: If he hits the receiver, we're not even having this

1009
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: conver and he's wide open. Wow, were replaying Montana to

1010
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: John Taylor. Highlights from that game. How was I went

1011
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: down just to see the end of the last drive

1012
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I did? I was comfortably remember, Yeah you see, yeah,

1013
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: you see John. It's a great Yeah. All right, we're

1014
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Speaker 1: back with more Talking Cowboys next Tuesday. Yes, this has

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