Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit un
Speaker 1: forget about moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
Speaker 2: Also as.
Speaker 3: What you're doing.
Speaker 4: Taking care of myself okay, yes, putting me first, that's
Speaker 4: the name of the game.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to lie because listen is
Speaker 1: Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And the beauty of Reality with the King is I'm
Speaker 1: stepping into your reality.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: So I'm here, Yes, we are here, and I want
Speaker 3: to get in the booth.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, the song the mic is on. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I like it. Tour, have you on my stage?
Speaker 1: We're going on tour.
Speaker 2: We're going on tour.
Speaker 3: Before we get on.
Speaker 4: Tour, I okay, okay, we gotta spill the tea, all right,
Speaker 4: all right, because you know, music is like your baby,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So it really matters out
Speaker 4: of all the work that I've done in my life.
Speaker 4: It really matters the most what people feel and and
Speaker 4: vibe and and think of my music and me as
Speaker 4: a musical artist.
Speaker 2: You know, this, by far was my scariest bike. You
Speaker 2: know venture I can say thus far in my whole career.
Speaker 5: Believe it or not, I've heard nothing you said because
Speaker 5: I'm distracted by your beauty.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, listen that lefore we did, We did that phase.
Speaker 2: You know what it is?
Speaker 1: I think I met you before, but your energy and
Speaker 1: your vibe is giving like not not that you weren't
Speaker 1: confident when I met you, but it's giving a certain
Speaker 1: level of.
Speaker 5: Calmness, serenity, happiness.
Speaker 3: You know what it is. It's giving freedom. I feel
Speaker 3: like you're free, you know what I'm saying. And and honey,
Speaker 3: you are beat to the gods.
Speaker 2: You are listening for you, I had to from head
Speaker 2: to toe.
Speaker 4: I called him the best glam okay that I know
Speaker 4: in all of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So did you pay them? Because they said, are we
Speaker 1: starting off?
Speaker 2: Listen? Nobody?
Speaker 3: I don't don't know.
Speaker 2: No, No, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Do you want to?
Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Somebody said, what are your former Okay? Uh huh, said
Speaker 1: that you did not pay him, and he's waiting for him.
Speaker 4: That one to be my face today, the one that
Speaker 4: be my face today, said.
Speaker 3: That is he?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was here, they saw him. Yeah, he'd be
Speaker 4: my face today. He was here for he bay for
Speaker 4: his job back.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, are you hello, freedom on the beat? Yes?
Speaker 2: What's freedom on the beat today?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 2: And he did it for my assistants there, he did
Speaker 2: it for Oh. Oh okay, let's talk about it because
Speaker 2: what they say is a lot of things. But I
Speaker 2: am here with you to clear up the lies.
Speaker 4: It takes a lots of gag Carlos, no lies so ever.
Speaker 3: Actually, so the check cleared.
Speaker 2: The check always.
Speaker 4: Clears, honey, because my bland can tell you, my people.
Speaker 4: I really pride myself because I've been in businesses two
Speaker 4: thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I've been working since I was eight years old.
Speaker 3: In Hollywood twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're gonna thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: My mom was my business manager growing up, and you know,
Speaker 4: she taught me and instilled in me like good work,
Speaker 4: habits and integrity, you know, and so paying people with
Speaker 4: my little business, you know, the.
Speaker 2: Little engine that could. I really am happy to be
Speaker 2: able to pay my invoices.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't even he yet, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, So it's okay.
Speaker 3: Also need to love about net thirty.
Speaker 2: I don't even do net thirty, don't.
Speaker 4: I just learned about net thirty and I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: hold on because my people like same day service, the
Speaker 4: zell and the wires and so now we've done like
Speaker 4: a three to five business days.
Speaker 2: Guys, that's good. I want a few.
Speaker 4: Voices on Christmas Eve and I'm like, I wasn't my kids,
Speaker 4: but I still send it because you know, I know
Speaker 4: how important it is for the house. So like, I
Speaker 4: really treat my people well. Like I have chefs. Everybody
Speaker 4: knows my chef.
Speaker 2: I've had her on my chef.
Speaker 4: I keep a chef, and I love to throw those
Speaker 4: appreciations in employee engagement, dinner's, lunches, pool parties, Like I
Speaker 4: really appreciate the people because I understand it takes a
Speaker 4: lot to show up, you know it does. It takes
Speaker 4: a team, and it's not just me operating it. So
Speaker 4: all those things you hear, I'm here to tell you
Speaker 4: don't believe it.
Speaker 3: Well no, but that's amazing. Why I am here.
Speaker 5: This has been two years in the making. I wanted
Speaker 5: to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Last season things can't work out logistically, and this year
Speaker 1: we get a chance to sit down and clear the air.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I know that you know that.
Speaker 5: And it's funny because when I met you for the
Speaker 5: first time at Si Bashery fashion show and he was like, you.
Speaker 2: Don't like me? What do you mean, Drew. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying anything bad about you.
Speaker 3: You don't like me, I said, Drew, I actually like
Speaker 3: you a lot.
Speaker 5: But what I will say this season on the Real
Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta Season sixteen, it's an amazing season and
Speaker 5: we are being Drew Sidora.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 1: Feel the difference with the audience reception of you this
Speaker 1: season than past seasons.
Speaker 4: You know, I try not to get caught up in
Speaker 4: that because I kind of just since I've come on
Speaker 4: the show, it's like I just let the cameras catch
Speaker 4: me where I am. I live my reality and I
Speaker 4: kind of leave it there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you know, I hear things.
Speaker 4: Obviously, people keep me in tune with what's going on,
Speaker 4: but I really don't know what the fans want, you know,
Speaker 4: I hear things. Of course I see a few things,
Speaker 4: but I really just try to stay in my truth
Speaker 4: and in my integrity, and I just feel like, for
Speaker 4: whatever reason, I've gotten some labels that just are not real,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to.
Speaker 4: Sit down with you because you know, you may talk
Speaker 4: to people here and there and do your little interviews,
Speaker 4: but I felt like with you, what I appreciate is
Speaker 4: that you are able to humanize things, and I felt like,
Speaker 4: from the first time we talked, like you actually care,
Speaker 4: you know, And I just wanted to be able to
Speaker 4: have this moment to sit down to just clear up
Speaker 4: a lot of the misconceptions about me and just really
Speaker 4: give an opportunity unfiltered to talk about, you know, everything anything.
Speaker 2: I'm an open book, always have been.
Speaker 4: But sometimes what you see in the matter of a
Speaker 4: couple of minutes doesn't tell the full story.
Speaker 5: No, And as a producer, I know that I know them,
Speaker 5: know that. And listen, when you came on the show,
Speaker 5: we were all excited. We know you from the game
Speaker 5: you play Iconic t on T Boss Watkins and the
Speaker 5: TLC biopic on VH one.
Speaker 3: You had a long career.
Speaker 1: I love going on Twitter and seeing old movie clips
Speaker 1: of you. I know, right, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: because a lot of us are reminded that Juice Door
Speaker 1: has always been that girl. So when you got on
Speaker 1: the show, there was this, and we talked about this
Speaker 1: off camera a couple of years ago. There was this
Speaker 1: perception that, Okay, it's giving Tyler Perry movies.
Speaker 3: You know, is Drew acting?
Speaker 1: Is she not able to sit in the moment? And
Speaker 1: I remember talking to you about that, just us Chatty,
Speaker 1: and I want the world to know this. When I
Speaker 1: said that to you to your face, you did not
Speaker 1: understand it, and you were so caught off guard. You said, Carlos,
Speaker 1: do you really think I'm not being real? And I
Speaker 1: was like, it comes across a little acting, and you
Speaker 1: were so.
Speaker 5: Not upset by that's the wrong word, but you were
Speaker 5: perplexed by that comment. I want to talk to you
Speaker 5: about that because I said it on my podcast before, like.
Speaker 3: Is it acting?
Speaker 1: And your reaction to me was so real. So I
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. Why were you shocked by
Speaker 1: that response that I gave you?
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was shocked because, like I said, I never
Speaker 4: really get caught up in what the fans say, or
Speaker 4: I'm an actress, you know, if people didn't like me
Speaker 4: from this role or that's that role or the game,
Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, that's my work, and I kind
Speaker 4: of just leave it there and move on to the next.
Speaker 4: So with this, I'm like I chose to come on
Speaker 4: reality because it was not something I ever saw myself doing,
Speaker 4: but because I felt like people have seen me in
Speaker 4: these various roles but never seen me as like the
Speaker 4: human being that I am and seeing the good, the bad,
Speaker 4: the ugly.
Speaker 2: The struggle.
Speaker 4: And I felt like after COVID, you know, I was
Speaker 4: going through like a rupture to Achilles, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I want to just be more vulnerable, you know. I
Speaker 4: want to have an opportunity to connect with my family
Speaker 4: and just show me as more of like the mother,
Speaker 4: the wife, the sister, you know, all of the things
Speaker 4: that I am. So I was taking a bags. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all I did was show my true self. I came
Speaker 4: on the show in an Achilles rupture, boot I didn't
Speaker 4: come on the show in alul Baton. I was literally
Speaker 4: at my lowest and so I really just let go
Speaker 4: of all of what people would expect me to appear.
Speaker 2: And was my most rawish self.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and everything that I've shown has been my
Speaker 4: real life. So when you said it to me, I
Speaker 4: was like, wait what because there was never any thought
Speaker 4: that it wasn't, you know what I mean, real, because
Speaker 4: I was living and sitting in my truth to the
Speaker 4: point where I came on.
Speaker 2: The show really to show like black love, you know.
Speaker 4: Ralph and I talked about showing black love family believers.
Speaker 4: We showed my church, my mom had, you know. That
Speaker 4: was what we wanted, and where we ended up was
Speaker 4: completely opposite. It was the toxicity of our marriage and
Speaker 4: that's not what I wanted. So that was actually my
Speaker 4: worst nightmare, you know what I mean. But when people
Speaker 4: thought it was fake, I'm like, I wish it was us,
Speaker 4: you know, because this is not the reality I ever wanted.
Speaker 2: To show the world.
Speaker 5: And we are seeing that reality this season because what
Speaker 5: we did learn this past episode was you guys, you
Speaker 5: and Ralph met and then y'all were together within three months, Yeah,
Speaker 5: engaged within or married in five months.
Speaker 3: You were pregnant with the eight months. Now, rap is fine,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna give you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, cornbreads bad.
Speaker 3: He looks like a big snickers, like you.
Speaker 2: Know, York's out in the gym.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I understand the acceleration.
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, period, I.
Speaker 3: Get it, I get it, I get I get it.
Speaker 5: But in hindsight, knowing what you're going through now and
Speaker 5: we'll get to that, do you feel like Ralph gas.
Speaker 3: Lit you the moment y'all met.
Speaker 2: Coming right out with it right.
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: Hu? That has been my most recent Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tis shoot, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Child.
Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 4: This is why, you know, it did take me a
Speaker 4: while to have this sit down because back then when
Speaker 4: you asked me, I knew I couldn't even get through
Speaker 4: a sentence really, you know at that time to talk
Speaker 4: through like my feelings. I am in a much better space,
Speaker 4: but there are still.
Speaker 2: Wounds, you know, that need to be healed. And I think.
Speaker 4: Because we are on this show and I'm watching things
Speaker 4: in real time with everyone and I'm seeing his actions
Speaker 4: and his behavior, it is having me to ponder what
Speaker 4: you just asked, which is like was it ever real?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Everything I thought is having me to consider, like, but
Speaker 4: was it ever loved you know? Did he ever respect
Speaker 4: Because someone that would go and have dinner with your
Speaker 4: ops right and sit there and bash you, And let's
Speaker 4: be honest, like, I'm still the mother of his kids.
Speaker 4: We have kids together, we were married for now ten years,
Speaker 4: so I'm like, someone that loves you and that respects
Speaker 4: you as even just the mother of your kids wouldn't
Speaker 4: behave this way. So then I just said to someone,
Speaker 4: I said, unless they never really loved you and they
Speaker 4: never really respected you, And that's where my training thought
Speaker 4: has been. Because for me, I've never set out to
Speaker 4: bash Ralph. You know, I have done nothing but tried
Speaker 4: to protect him for his actions and tried to gain
Speaker 4: understanding for his actions. And I mean, as you see
Speaker 4: this season, I'm not sitting around talking about Ralph talking
Speaker 4: about my healing. And it was very, very hurtful to
Speaker 4: see that scene with him, Porsha and Shamiyah.
Speaker 5: When you saw Shami and Porsha, yeah, me with your
Speaker 5: strange husband.
Speaker 3: What was your knee jerk reaction to that knowledge?
Speaker 1: Like did you find out before the episode aired on
Speaker 1: the trailer? Even yeah, or even if you did, was
Speaker 1: it a gut punched to you to watch it and
Speaker 1: to hear what he's what he said, like, walk me
Speaker 1: through that moment, because listen, I love Porschasia, and I
Speaker 1: said this on my podcast. I said, look, I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest. I didn't like I didn't like it. I
Speaker 1: didn't like I didn't like the scene. And I give
Speaker 1: my reasons why.
Speaker 5: I'm like here to regurgitate that I'm not married to
Speaker 5: Rap and I don't have kids by him.
Speaker 3: So I am curious to.
Speaker 5: Know what were you feeling the moment you watching me
Speaker 5: and Porsche meet with Ralph.
Speaker 4: So during filming, I heard that they filmed together, but
Speaker 4: it was like variations, Like it almost sounded like they
Speaker 4: ran into each other at a restaurant, and so it
Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, yeah, they had some words
Speaker 4: and that was it. I didn't know it was like
Speaker 4: a plan to sit down situation. So when I watched it,
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, this is giving like a
Speaker 4: full scene. You know, this is like everyone new and
Speaker 4: they are here together and they're happy to see each other,
Speaker 4: and I'm like wow, and I like what they did.
Speaker 2: Trying to cover it in a meeting of a podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh I see what you try to do there, Okay,
Speaker 4: but it landed flat because as we see today, there
Speaker 4: is no King and Queen's podcast. You know, we don't,
Speaker 4: we don't. We're not seeing the manifestation of that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it and nothing, and the.
Speaker 2: Album is on a music in iTunes.
Speaker 4: I know Ralph in the Basement is on his YouTube,
Speaker 4: but this other podcast was SHEMI.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any remnants of that.
Speaker 4: But they had this meeting and so let's say respectfully,
Speaker 4: it's a business meeting, all right, all right, but it
Speaker 4: went into discussion of Drew and that's where I felt disrespected.
Speaker 4: I felt, you know, from from Ralph being still technically
Speaker 4: legally married.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you're.
Speaker 4: Volunteering information that was between you and I. You know,
Speaker 4: you're sitting here entertaining text messages that aren't real because
Speaker 4: we haven't seen them. You know, you're entertaining basically a
Speaker 4: try of a takedown of me, a destruction of me
Speaker 4: and my character and really everything I've built since the
Speaker 4: age of eight. You know, it's like, on top of
Speaker 4: what I've built for myself as an actress, as a mother,
Speaker 4: and then as a wife, you're trying to destroy that,
Speaker 4: and I just didn't think it was necessary. I didn't
Speaker 4: think it was necessary. And then he never told me,
Speaker 4: he never divulged anything to me. I literally found everything
Speaker 4: out on the show, and I just felt like, regardless
Speaker 4: of if our relationship and our marriage is not working out,
Speaker 4: there's still just a level of respect that you should
Speaker 4: have for the mother of your kids.
Speaker 1: I felt so sorry for you when and you allowed
Speaker 1: us the viewers to follow you go to court and
Speaker 1: the judge at the end of the day did not
Speaker 1: do something that you wanted, which is I believe was
Speaker 1: the sealing, the unsealing, and he was gloating, and you
Speaker 1: were so frustrated you cried.
Speaker 3: And I remember that in that moment, I said, and
Speaker 3: I like Ralph. I met Ralph. He's a cool guy.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm watching the show, so I'm only basing off
Speaker 1: the show. I said to myself, Oh, Ralph don't like you.
Speaker 2: Okay, he don't Wow, he don't.
Speaker 1: Like you, and he's determined to expose you. I got
Speaker 1: that instantly that that was maybe a few episodes ago.
Speaker 1: So when I watched the scene and he brought up
Speaker 1: tie and he's alleging that in the words of Lisa
Speaker 1: the cole Cloud that you and Tie are in a
Speaker 1: lesbian a relationship.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 4: Well, what I can say is at the time when
Speaker 4: all of this came out right, because to be honest,
Speaker 4: I'm tired of hearing about it. It is like a
Speaker 4: year old of information. It just wasn't the right time
Speaker 4: to talk about it. Honestly, I think now today I
Speaker 4: sit here and I say, like, what I went through
Speaker 4: with Ralph over the ten years of marriage, no one
Speaker 4: got to really see that pain and really see every
Speaker 4: detail of what he did to me. And I can
Speaker 4: promise you this, if a cardboard box would have came
Speaker 4: and showed me some attention, I would have given it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Ty was someone at that time that gave me attention
Speaker 4: that I wasn't getting from my husband, And I said
Speaker 4: it on the show. She was a really great friend
Speaker 4: to me that like as simple as put left on
Speaker 4: my jokes, understood, listen to me. And so to have
Speaker 4: someone as your husband that's supposed to be your best friend,
Speaker 4: that you feel like you can talk to until anything too,
Speaker 4: I didn't have that before I ever met Ty. There
Speaker 4: was so much that happened that at that point Ralph
Speaker 4: had moved out of the bedroom. I was speaking with
Speaker 4: a divorce attorney. He was asking for a divorce. We
Speaker 4: were in conversations with a separation and yeah, Ty was
Speaker 4: there and.
Speaker 2: A great friend flirting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like at the end of the day, we
Speaker 4: both have said it was a great friendship. And I'll
Speaker 4: still say to this day, we're friends. We're not enemies.
Speaker 4: But relationships come and go. Friendships come and go, and
Speaker 4: it wasn't what he was making out to be as
Speaker 4: far as he wanted this divorce.
Speaker 2: I was fed up.
Speaker 4: There was infidelity, there was pain, there was hurt, and
Speaker 4: I feel like he waited for a reason.
Speaker 2: I've wait.
Speaker 4: He waited for reason, and I feel like that friendship
Speaker 4: was that reason he hung on to and he's still
Speaker 4: hanging on to. Because I had an open conversation with
Speaker 4: him about time being a friend, he felt like it
Speaker 4: was inappropriate, so we didn't talk anymore. You know, I
Speaker 4: thought we were in a position to reconcile.
Speaker 2: And again I have been.
Speaker 4: Met with him wanting an open relationship, him wanting to
Speaker 4: have other women.
Speaker 2: He's not still been honest.
Speaker 4: I was waiting when portion Shamia asked, have you ever
Speaker 4: cheated and Drew. I was waiting for him to be honest,
Speaker 4: and he got choked up and he just threw a no,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, Okay, if we could see it, we
Speaker 4: can see that he wasn't being honest. But I was
Speaker 4: waiting for him to be honest, because until he's honest
Speaker 4: about what we've gone through, you can't continue to point
Speaker 4: the finger and try to play victim as though you
Speaker 4: were hurt when you already wanted the divorce, even dating
Speaker 4: back to when we live in Chicago, he wanted the divorce.
Speaker 5: I only want to push you as far as you
Speaker 5: want because I'm going to say this, and I'm not
Speaker 5: labeling you. I want to respect the boundaries when it
Speaker 5: comes to this topic, and you have my permission to
Speaker 5: tell me to move on, and I respect it because
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, again I'm not labeling you,
Speaker 5: but what I will say is, as an oply gay man,
Speaker 5: I am not comfortable ever trying to out somebody or
Speaker 5: dig deep in terms of saying sex relationships, frenchis whatever.
Speaker 5: So I really want you to tell me respectfully when
Speaker 5: to stop, okay, because I know you want to clear
Speaker 5: the air, and I'm only going to ask you things,
Speaker 5: and I want you to answer them if you want
Speaker 5: to when it comes to you in tie the way
Speaker 5: Rap made it seem like it was more than a friendship,
Speaker 5: that you guys could have been lovers intimately.
Speaker 3: What do you have to say to that when you're talking.
Speaker 4: Intimate kiss flirting, Yes, okay, a lot of flirting. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna say that there wasn't flirting. There was a
Speaker 4: lot of conversation. There was a lot of group hangouts,
Speaker 4: and for me, there were just certain things that I
Speaker 4: wasn't comfortable with and not judging anybody for their sexual orientation.
Speaker 4: I just love my husband, you know, and so there
Speaker 4: were certain levels.
Speaker 2: Now I can't help if.
Speaker 4: You know Ty felt differently or how she felt, I
Speaker 4: can't speak for her. But for me, I appreciated the friendship.
Speaker 4: I appreciated the conversation. I appreciated the fun I appreciated,
Speaker 4: you know, the distraction from what I was going through
Speaker 4: and so much so. I mean, she was around, we
Speaker 4: hung out publicly, so I wasn't worried about people seeing
Speaker 4: us or people. But I didn't know it was going
Speaker 4: to get to this extent to where he would say
Speaker 4: the reason why he wanted to divorce was because of Tie,
Speaker 4: because that wasn't actually true.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you when he said that
Speaker 5: was the reason.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 5: When Ralph said the reason why we're divorc things because
Speaker 5: of Tie, I felt that Rap wanted.
Speaker 1: To find a reason to bring up Tie. And it
Speaker 1: goes back to what I saw a few episodes ago.
Speaker 1: I just felt like Rap.
Speaker 5: Is determined to embarrass you, and he wanted that to
Speaker 5: come out the way it appeared.
Speaker 1: And what I will give you prompts on is when
Speaker 1: he said it. They did do a flashback of but
Speaker 1: seeing you do the film and everything is saying so
Speaker 1: she listen to your credit, everything you're saying to me
Speaker 1: you said on camera.
Speaker 3: They aired that that six second snippet.
Speaker 5: So, but that's why I felt the intention was to
Speaker 5: embarrass you. I've been around time before she dated my
Speaker 5: friend Mimi Foust. Tie is fine and yeah, I could
Speaker 5: probably have me.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, and a couple of duds I talked
Speaker 4: to you, let's not pretend yeah, they'll say yeah and
Speaker 4: swagged out and is a really good person. And I
Speaker 4: think that's why, even to this day we're still friends.
Speaker 4: You know, I would never say, oh, she's not a
Speaker 4: good person, or minimize or you know.
Speaker 2: Extreme our our friendship.
Speaker 4: It was just the intimidation that I feel Ralph felt,
Speaker 4: which I'm not gonna say. You know, I can't speak
Speaker 4: for him, but I just feel like it was an
Speaker 4: intimidation there, and I feel like he was looking and
Speaker 4: grabbing on the straws of the reason why he could
Speaker 4: depart this marriage and for what I endured. Listen, my
Speaker 4: parents were married for sixty years until my father passed away.
Speaker 4: So I grew up desiring marriage, wanting marriage. All marriage
Speaker 4: was forever because I didn't know anything different. So the
Speaker 4: times that he asked for divorce or I found that
Speaker 4: he was with other women, I didn't ever consider divorce.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did it.
Speaker 4: I fought for my marriage, I fought for my kids.
Speaker 4: I fought for my family. And I just feel like
Speaker 4: he was always putting that word out there and his
Speaker 4: behavior on the show, I felt like he showed the
Speaker 4: most toxic side of him. Because, as you said, he's fine,
Speaker 4: he's nice, he's cool, he's charming. I mean, I married
Speaker 4: him for those reasons. So he's an aquarius. He's Aquarius.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and a few.
Speaker 3: Mal Aquarius child, we'll talk got all blive.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna gag you.
Speaker 2: He carries the same birthday as my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Get it now, Okay, I get it. I did it.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: I've dated ballplayers, I've dated rappers, musicians, whatever, actors. But
Speaker 4: him having the same worthday as my dad, I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: you know it had me to pay attention to him,
Speaker 4: and I really thought I was marrying my father.
Speaker 2: I did, so come no.
Speaker 3: I listen.
Speaker 1: I feel your energy and I feel everything you're you're giving.
Speaker 3: This is the most burnable I've ever seen you be. Seriously,
Speaker 3: and if the audience was in this realm, they both
Speaker 3: feel it. Till I just want you to know if
Speaker 3: you're going to be okay, you're going to be okay.
Speaker 1: And and I don't want to make you cry again,
Speaker 1: but my my spirit's telling me tell you this.
Speaker 3: Your father said you did the right thing.
Speaker 5: You did the right thing, and sometimes what happens in life,
Speaker 5: you have to go through this turmoil so that you
Speaker 5: won't ever go back. And I feel like, because you're
Speaker 5: such a because I'm from the Midwest too.
Speaker 3: Detroit folks, Chicago folks. We don't leave our relationship. We
Speaker 3: just don't. We don't leave, we stay. We stay.
Speaker 5: We stay because we feel like with this tradition. And
Speaker 5: I want you to know, your father is giving you
Speaker 5: permission to leave. And the reason why you're going through
Speaker 5: this hell on earth with rap is because everybody in
Speaker 5: heaven who are your guarding angels, they want you to
Speaker 5: know you can never go back, even when you have
Speaker 5: those moments where you're crying yourself to sleep at night,
Speaker 5: and I know you do, even when you're around the
Speaker 5: kids and you sometimes wonder could I just do this
Speaker 5: for the kids. I want you to know, I know,
Speaker 5: I know, I feel it, I feel it. I want
Speaker 5: you to know your father is giving you permission to
Speaker 5: never go back, and you're going through this hell so
Speaker 5: that it can be so disastrous that you know, deep
Speaker 5: down inside you can ever go back to that marriage.
Speaker 5: And I'm not calling ral a disaster, So don't don't don't.
Speaker 5: Don't make that the headline, y'all. But I need you
Speaker 5: to know my spirit is speaking to you and your
Speaker 5: father is telling me to tell you are going to
Speaker 5: be okay.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be okay, and you're gonna be okay financially too.
Speaker 1: You are that that was the last thing you want
Speaker 1: to tell you financially gonna be good.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be good. They're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: What I would like to also address, speaking of finances,
Speaker 1: is you are working with porschas baby Daddy Dennis and.
Speaker 3: You made a comment.
Speaker 1: About girl, I will sell so much music they can
Speaker 1: pay for Pollard's college to wish for college fund.
Speaker 3: Of course, did not like that at all.
Speaker 1: Child.
Speaker 3: She thought you brought her daughter too this situation.
Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear up the air
Speaker 1: in terms of what you meant by that comment.
Speaker 4: Well, watching it back, what I did see was that
Speaker 4: Shemiah carried that conversation to Porsche and it wasn't taken
Speaker 4: in the spirit that I said it. So that's first.
Speaker 4: Porscha was like, well, that's not the way Shamiah delivered
Speaker 4: it to me. The way Angela said it. She was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's not so bad. So I want to go on
Speaker 4: record saying what I said wasn't bad. And what I
Speaker 4: was saying in that moment was because I keep getting
Speaker 4: asked the same question why Dennis.
Speaker 2: Why are you working with Dennis?
Speaker 4: So when Shamia asked me that in that moment, I
Speaker 4: was like, this is what Dennis himself said, which I
Speaker 4: hope I get a flashback, because he said, out of
Speaker 4: his own mouth, I'm doing this to build's legacy for
Speaker 4: my daughter.
Speaker 3: He said it on camp.
Speaker 4: He did, and he continues to say it because I've
Speaker 4: got text messages and he would stand here and tell
Speaker 4: you that he is not just a hot dog man.
Speaker 4: You know, he is a serial entrepreneur, which Porscha has
Speaker 4: said out of her mouth. And he said he believed
Speaker 4: in I mean, we stood in this studio and he
Speaker 4: literally was emotional because he said, I believe in you
Speaker 4: so much. I know this is going to build wealth
Speaker 4: and legacy for our kids. This is going to help
Speaker 4: me put my daughter through college. So I was saying
Speaker 4: that as a way to validate his reasoning and what
Speaker 4: I believe as a blessing it would be for our families.
Speaker 4: I'm a mother, So no one was saying and it
Speaker 4: wasn't braggadocious, but this is a blessing for all of us, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: This is why I'm doing it. This music is bigger
Speaker 4: than me, and so that was the intention. And then
Speaker 4: when she said, well, I think her college has been
Speaker 4: paid for her, so well maybe some whatever it can do,
Speaker 4: I feel like it's going to be able to do something.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this to get back at Porsche. This
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with porsia actually, and I'm not
Speaker 4: doing it to be negative in any way. This is
Speaker 4: something I think can be a blessing.
Speaker 5: When you saw that there's this narrative that you tried
Speaker 5: to solicit sex from Denniz and you said something along
Speaker 5: the lines allegedly you want to Dennis, and Dennis said
Speaker 5: he's not trying to provide Dick. He's trying to provide
Speaker 5: you know, tracks.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's still girls head in head.
Speaker 3: Let's say we love and hip hop after all. Well,
Speaker 3: so I want to know, were you ever attracted to Dennis?
Speaker 4: Now have you not seen my husband? I like a
Speaker 4: certain physique. I like biceps, not bellies. I really know,
Speaker 4: if it's to tennis, I mean, but I mean the
Speaker 4: physiques are different. That's what I'm saying that the physiques
Speaker 4: are definitely different. No, yeah, okay, I'm just saying I
Speaker 4: like my If you know, you know, and if you
Speaker 4: see you see and if you know, it's different, it's different,
Speaker 4: and so it's just unbelievable to me. It's like, are
Speaker 4: we believing this? And I don't think people are believing it.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're believing it. Not only the fans
Speaker 4: are buying it. I think that Larisia was brought here
Speaker 4: to give a life and a story that she wasn't
Speaker 4: able to deliver, and so that is the reason my
Speaker 4: name is brought up in every scene, every episode, every moment,
Speaker 4: even in her confessionals.
Speaker 2: So that's just what we're seeing.
Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate because in my real life I'm dealing
Speaker 4: with so much that when I come into this friend group,
Speaker 4: it's just so.
Speaker 2: Far from the truth. You know, you hear the music.
Speaker 2: What we were doing was real.
Speaker 4: You see the fruits of our labor, and it wasn't
Speaker 4: easy and it was a journey, and people really got
Speaker 4: behind it, and so much so portionally, I was a
Speaker 4: fan of the music before cameras were what do you.
Speaker 2: Mean she was? She and I had a conversation.
Speaker 4: She said this on I want to say episode one
Speaker 4: and maybe episode two. She definitely said we had a conversation.
Speaker 4: Dennis invited her to my birthday party. Why would Dennis
Speaker 4: be inviting you to my birthday party if you had
Speaker 4: no idea? So people gotta and I think the fans
Speaker 4: are seeing it. The fans are really smart. Like I
Speaker 4: can say this season, the people see it's what it
Speaker 4: really is. And what it really is is that Porsche
Speaker 4: and I had a conversation and I told her about
Speaker 4: me working with Dennis. Let me back up, because when
Speaker 4: she was missus Gubadia, I reached out to her multiple times,
Speaker 4: multiple times. I text her multiple times, I called her
Speaker 4: multiple times. And what I know now about Portia is
Speaker 4: she's just not a girl's girl and she's just not
Speaker 4: a good friend. So in my reaching out to her,
Speaker 4: she was busy off living her princess African life, and
Speaker 4: no one heard from Porsche. She wasn't showing up, she
Speaker 4: wasn't around us. We didn't see her. We saw her
Speaker 4: on Instagram. We saw the life on Instagram that she
Speaker 4: was putting out there. So therefore that's what it was.
Speaker 4: And so I didn't get any return phone calls. It
Speaker 4: was not reciprocated. It wasn't reciprocated. I'm reaching out, you're
Speaker 4: not reaching out to me. When she heard about the divorce.
Speaker 4: She never reached out to me. When I heard about
Speaker 4: her divorce, I immediately reached out to her. But at a
Speaker 4: certain point in time, and I have the text messages.
Speaker 4: I was like, you need to call me, you know,
Speaker 4: And she said, well, let's go to eat. I said, listen.
Speaker 4: She wanted to know what are the new girls? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know about the new girls. I don't know anything,
Speaker 4: but I need to see you. I need to talk
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 2: Oh not you trying to bait me.
Speaker 4: I need to talk to you because I felt like
Speaker 4: it was something that was important to talk about. So
Speaker 4: she called me. We had a conversation. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I love the music. I love
Speaker 4: what you and Dinnis were doing. We were in this
Speaker 4: studio and Dennis will call her, hey girl. She knew
Speaker 4: what we were doing, she knew were working on. Dennis
Speaker 4: was like, she loves this track.
Speaker 2: She loves this track. What was Force's favorite track on
Speaker 2: your album?
Speaker 1: All of them?
Speaker 6: Okay, she said, And she said the album is.
Speaker 4: A hit, so she loves the project as a whole.
Speaker 2: Or she'll call me uh.
Speaker 4: Because she apologized for not making it to my birthday party.
Speaker 4: And she said, come hang out with me and Yandy.
Speaker 4: Let's go out, girl. We need to talk and celebrate
Speaker 4: with so much to celebrate, with so much talk about
Speaker 4: with our divorces. And I was like, girl, I'm tired
Speaker 4: because my birthday party was a lot and I'm about
Speaker 4: to lay it down. And so when I saw her
Speaker 4: ash MEA's birthday party, I'm like, let's do some shots,
Speaker 4: Like what's some girl. I was just so happy to
Speaker 4: see my girl. So when she came at me, that's
Speaker 4: why my mouth was open.
Speaker 1: And I didn't really you die was flabbergast, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was so confused because I'm like.
Speaker 4: We definitely like talked a couple of times, and we've
Speaker 4: already talked about this, you know, because as a friend,
Speaker 4: I felt like.
Speaker 2: It was important to do so.
Speaker 4: So so the conversation had when it happened was on
Speaker 4: her terms. But it definitely happened and there was no beef,
Speaker 4: there was no issue. There was no we need to
Speaker 4: have a conversation, we need to have a sit down
Speaker 4: because I'm feeling away.
Speaker 2: It was none of that.
Speaker 4: So that's why I was taken aback and I was
Speaker 4: just like, I didn't doubt or not, because this energy
Speaker 4: seemed to be for the camera.
Speaker 5: When you are watching this season and the fall, and
Speaker 5: obviously we did see Shamia's birthday party, we saw what
Speaker 5: happened in the first episode, and now we're seeing this
Speaker 5: destruction between SMI and portious friendship.
Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear the air on
Speaker 1: this as well. Angela Oakley yours Chaitao sis.
Speaker 2: I love it. Oh my god. I tried to get
Speaker 2: Angela on a few seasons ago. I tried to tell the.
Speaker 3: Girls, we're trying to get Angela. I don't know us
Speaker 3: season three. I was watching it back. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know us season three, but maybe with season six, okay,
Speaker 3: but we.
Speaker 1: Tried to get Angela. I'm gonna get calls about Angela Oakley.
Speaker 1: I think it's when she first started dating Charles. I
Speaker 1: think of like two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 2: No me about right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but long story short, trying to get her on,
Speaker 1: Like I remember us trying to get her.
Speaker 3: On, but I got dress.
Speaker 2: She's here now.
Speaker 3: She's a great job.
Speaker 1: So Angela revealed that you her as Shamia had dinner
Speaker 1: one night and that allegedly Samia put out her pinky
Speaker 1: her pinky finger and said what exactly what did she say?
Speaker 2: We did all that. That's that's exactly what happened, so
Speaker 2: all three. So it was like it was given, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it was like you.
Speaker 3: Activation, it was activated.
Speaker 2: Well, Angela said she had her fingers crossed behind her
Speaker 2: back because trust girls show listen.
Speaker 4: I pinky s were because Sami and I have known
Speaker 4: each other and I feel like we have grown to
Speaker 4: build what I would consider a friendship over the years.
Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know you.
Speaker 4: I just met you yesterday, So I love an energy,
Speaker 4: but Shmi and.
Speaker 2: I have built a rapport and a friendship over the years.
Speaker 4: But it was like this wrestling with Shemiah is the
Speaker 4: best way I could put it into words. It was
Speaker 4: a wrestling and we had a cocktail or two and
Speaker 4: she felt vulnerable and I feel like she felt comfortable
Speaker 4: and she needed to get this out. And so she
Speaker 4: was like, I need us to pinky swear because what
Speaker 4: I'm about to tell you, I need to feel it
Speaker 4: like I'm in a safe space. So we pinky swear,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what's wrong, you know? And she went
Speaker 4: on to tell us that she felt like you know
Speaker 4: she needed to be real and address the issues that
Speaker 4: she has in a friendship with Portia. She went on
Speaker 4: to say how she didn't want to come across as
Speaker 4: though now she's got a peach and she's here and
Speaker 4: now she's going to tear down her friend who helped
Speaker 4: her to get.
Speaker 2: On on the show.
Speaker 4: She didn't want the fans to come for her in
Speaker 4: that way, to feel like she's ungrateful or a bad friend.
Speaker 4: So I can tell you she was considering the fans
Speaker 4: and the look of how we'll come across as we
Speaker 4: see now she's talking, you know, because she's like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm in a good place. But then she was just like,
Speaker 4: you know, this is Porsia's show. She's the HBI C
Speaker 4: and I don't know if this is a good idea,
Speaker 4: but this is the real And she went on to
Speaker 4: say that you know, there's the friendship is not in
Speaker 4: the place that everyone thinks that it's in. She was
Speaker 4: hurt by the fact that Porsche didn't come to her wedding.
Speaker 4: She was hurt by the fact that Porscha did not
Speaker 4: ever congratulate her for getting a peach, nor ever take
Speaker 4: her out to celebrate her I would never know this.
Speaker 4: I would never know this, and I never would have
Speaker 4: thought that that was the case because Instagram shows like
Speaker 4: this great beautiful, you know, friendship.
Speaker 2: But there was a plethora of things that Amiya.
Speaker 4: Said that I feel like, uh Shamiah needs to vocalize, right,
Speaker 4: because that's her story, that's her pain, that's her journey.
Speaker 4: But she had a lot to say about how she
Speaker 4: felt like Porscha was not a good friend to her
Speaker 4: and that she has been a very loyal friend to Porsha.
Speaker 4: And we only encouraged her because myself and I've always
Speaker 4: told Angela, I told Sonya and how I've lived on
Speaker 4: this show is speak your truth and just be you,
Speaker 4: and that's all I can say.
Speaker 2: And so we Encouragemia to do that.
Speaker 4: And I think with us now knowing this and Angela
Speaker 4: speaking of Porsha, it was bound to come out, and
Speaker 4: it did.
Speaker 2: It came out.
Speaker 3: Do you think.
Speaker 1: Samia is just tired of being the background singer in
Speaker 1: Force's life. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that Smia first and foremost is such a
Speaker 4: humble spirit. She is such a pure soul. I just
Speaker 4: love her. I just love who she is, and she's
Speaker 4: so dynamic and she has so much energy, and she
Speaker 4: just seems like she puts on a happy front, like
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just be the life of the party, I'm
Speaker 4: make everybody laugh, and she doesn't really get an opportunity
Speaker 4: to open up about who she is and how she's
Speaker 4: fittling because she's never been in a position to so
Speaker 4: the friend of the show she became the friend in
Speaker 4: real life. The cheerleader on the court was the cheerleader
Speaker 4: that I think she was for a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people, you know, but particularly Portia.
Speaker 4: So seeing her in this position, I felt like this
Speaker 4: was her opportunity to exhale and release, release and exhale,
Speaker 4: and I just felt for her because I know what
Speaker 4: it feels like to be in a relationship friendship and
Speaker 4: you feel like you can't really speak your truth, but
Speaker 4: you want to clear the air. So hopefully you guys
Speaker 4: can get to a better place. And you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know if they will get to a better place.
Speaker 4: Of course, I don't wish breakups fallouts on anybody.
Speaker 2: It's so hard and it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: To see, but this was something she yeah, definitely was
Speaker 4: at a breaking point and needed to get out.
Speaker 3: Do you think for me is Porson's lap dog.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I stand on that. I stand on that.
Speaker 2: I said it. You'll see I said it.
Speaker 4: I said it a couple of times actually, I mean
Speaker 4: cause it's just, you know, I believe that's who she is,
Speaker 4: because again, you know, when you don't speak your truth,
Speaker 4: what are you?
Speaker 2: You know, if you, like I said, are barking up.
Speaker 4: A tree and not being your own tree, we don't
Speaker 4: really know who you are. You know, you're you're under
Speaker 4: someone else's shade, You're under someone else's genealogy, someone else's truth.
Speaker 4: She's been living under Portscha's shadow. And I just felt
Speaker 4: like that is the best word. People said it before
Speaker 4: me on this show. She was a lap dog, And
Speaker 4: I say it for myself now because that's what I've seen.
Speaker 4: For her to come for me about something that portion
Speaker 4: already spoke about is lap dog behavior. For her to
Speaker 4: run back a very innocent conversation back to Portia and
Speaker 4: take it in any negative light.
Speaker 2: Is lap dog behavior.
Speaker 4: For her not to stand on business about what she
Speaker 4: shared with Angela and I and sulk in the moment
Speaker 4: and not stand and.
Speaker 2: Arrive is lapt dog behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I know a couple of puppies and
Speaker 4: I have a couple of dog traits, so I can
Speaker 4: identify you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: I just you know, do.
Speaker 3: You have any doctrines?
Speaker 2: I think you're one. I gotta keep them on hand.
Speaker 4: I'll run it into all kind of the LULUs and animals,
Speaker 4: the zoo and the jug all together.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 1: So when you went to Nashville, right, I love that
Speaker 1: Angela invite to you.
Speaker 5: You go in and long story short, you saw me
Speaker 5: episode that when Porsche came to the table, it was.
Speaker 3: Pokah, God nothing listen. I'll just be honest.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of like my days working on this
Speaker 1: show because I know those girls so well that when
Speaker 1: they would come to a dinner seat and give nothing,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well they mad at Now what happened?
Speaker 5: So you learned that she found out that Dinis was
Speaker 5: filming with you, and you left the trip early.
Speaker 3: You were like, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: And then when you watch the episode, obviously you film
Speaker 1: the entire season, so you knew what was going on.
Speaker 3: But I want to get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 5: Being a married woman right a'lbeit a strange but still
Speaker 5: a married woman who was married.
Speaker 1: For ten years when Porscha made that joke about she's
Speaker 1: better leave me alone for fuck her husband, and you
Speaker 1: saw media Kelly and Britt you know, laugh at it
Speaker 1: and not saying anything.
Speaker 5: And the married women in that pool, it's Shmiah and
Speaker 5: Brett right as a married warman yourself, if you were
Speaker 5: in that pool with them and you heard portion make
Speaker 5: that joke, as y'all I get bonds, whatever, would you
Speaker 5: have done what the other girls did or would you
Speaker 5: have said something?
Speaker 4: Listen when Angela woke me up after she addressed the situation,
Speaker 4: because I'll sleep it in my bunk bed comfortably. And
Speaker 4: when she woke me up to tell me what had happened,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, no, no, no, we got to
Speaker 4: go outside. We got who said it and what did
Speaker 4: they say? I wanted to address it, and she was like,
Speaker 4: already I already addressed it. So for me, I obviously
Speaker 4: believe in the institution of marriage so much that I
Speaker 4: was like, even to the point where Angela has forgiven Porsche,
Speaker 4: I'm still feeling a way about it because I'm like,
Speaker 4: when you make those high with threats about someone's husband,
Speaker 4: that's not so easily forgivable to me. Filming with my
Speaker 4: let's be clear, husband for me, is where she crossed
Speaker 4: the line. I think husband's marriage it's sacred. You know,
Speaker 4: you go before witnesses, your family, are friends, and before
Speaker 4: God himself. I just think it sits a little different
Speaker 4: outside of just the shade. You know, if you want
Speaker 4: to talk about I made this innocent comment about your kids,
Speaker 4: but you're talking about someone's husband, the father of her children.
Speaker 4: I think that's a new low for Portia and I
Speaker 4: would have definitely addressed it, and I don't think that
Speaker 4: I would have forgiven it so easily either.
Speaker 3: You think Angela for gave Portra too easily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've told Angela that.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I believe in forgiveness, but I
Speaker 4: believe in people proving themselves in their apologies too, because
Speaker 4: words are empty when you don't back it up with
Speaker 4: the action. So you know, that's just my thought. But again,
Speaker 4: you know that's Angela's fight. But I was definitely hurting
Speaker 4: for Angela, which is why I stayed even to be
Speaker 4: there for her, and we talked almost every day after
Speaker 4: that because I wanted to make sure mentally and emotionally
Speaker 4: she was okay.
Speaker 3: You developed a great friendship. Speaking of friendships with Kenya,
Speaker 3: you know, we saw and it's interesting because we kind of.
Speaker 5: Saw the development of your friendship with Kenya over the
Speaker 5: course of the seasons, and you were there obviously during
Speaker 5: the whole debacle at the hair salon. And I want
Speaker 5: to get your thoughts on this because there are rumors
Speaker 5: out there that you allegedly are the one who gave
Speaker 5: Kenya those photos a brit I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So, I'm so very busy, aren't you. I mean, I
Speaker 2: am dating this person and did it? And now when
Speaker 2: did I go to Kinko's? Did I? Did I print
Speaker 2: them in down Child? This is a lot.
Speaker 4: I'm tired like, this is a lot of just finger
Speaker 4: pointing and King drew the scapegoat for other people's actions.
Speaker 4: Kenya has gone on record, which, by the way, I
Speaker 4: miss Kenya so much because coming from last season and
Speaker 4: in this season, she was like my only friend that
Speaker 4: I really built a genuine friendship with that I felt
Speaker 4: comfortable even to share, you know, my business with and
Speaker 4: my vulnerabilities with. So I do miss her. She and
Speaker 4: I talk often still. However, the issue is Kenya didn't
Speaker 4: tell anybody what she was up to. No one knew
Speaker 4: that Kenya was looking up Britt and trying to find
Speaker 4: things wherever she found them, But no, it was not me.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do that stuff.
Speaker 4: I've never seen Britt in any thing online like that,
Speaker 4: although I've heard about it, but no, I've heard about
Speaker 4: her having like, you know, porn videos.
Speaker 2: You know some of the girls.
Speaker 4: I've murdered a lot of the girls and murmured things online.
Speaker 4: And she tried to scrub the internet and clean it
Speaker 4: up the show prior to joining the show, and then
Speaker 4: obviously once this was yeah the vault, she tried to
Speaker 4: scrub it.
Speaker 2: Kenya said that on her confessional. But Kenya, this was
Speaker 2: a one woman show.
Speaker 4: And I really wish Kenya would have talked to me
Speaker 4: about it because I would have strongly.
Speaker 2: That is Makay's alarm for his medicine. He said that
Speaker 2: on my phone.
Speaker 3: Why that song Lizzy is it juice?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: Can you text? Uh?
Speaker 4: Can you check my phone? Make sure the nanny was called?
Speaker 4: And then also texts Miss Deborah, why Raddy?
Speaker 2: Can I get a drink of water? Make sure Makai
Speaker 2: texts his medicine.
Speaker 3: For two days?
Speaker 4: Listen, you know they fun fact fun fact, do you know,
Speaker 4: Danny so I first seas it. You know it was prophetgate. Yes, Danny,
Speaker 4: my assistant was, and Lizzy knows a perfect gate right
Speaker 4: here that exposed LaToya, which, by the way out, that's
Speaker 4: like one of my best friends. I'm not gonna my
Speaker 4: kids were at our house for Easter. Yeah, Toya is.
Speaker 4: Actually we can know we can reschedule Cadillac. I want
Speaker 4: to make sure we have as much time we can.
Speaker 4: It's always gonna be another Cadillac thing we can do.
Speaker 4: We scheduling April. We could do Cadillac another day.
Speaker 2: We could do it tomorrow if we can make it happen.
Speaker 4: I don't want to rush I know, please, I just
Speaker 4: don't want.
Speaker 2: To rush this.
Speaker 4: We've taken two years to have this. I just yeah,
Speaker 4: and I need to get this out.
Speaker 2: Don't tell Dennis that.
Speaker 3: All right, Betty works. Betty works, and now we're good.
Speaker 3: We're good.
Speaker 4: Am I good, Walter good. I know she did, but no,
Speaker 4: we're not pulling me. I love her, respect her, but respectfully. Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: so apologies, you know.
Speaker 3: Really lazy, but thirty twenty works.
Speaker 2: Actually we can always listen.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready for you. Guys are Nomory speaking. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Just carried juice?
Speaker 3: Do you think she ever sold it?
Speaker 2: How was it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: The cat?
Speaker 2: I right? Yes? Do you want come worry man? Listen
Speaker 2: you're giving the actress and singer and now are you
Speaker 2: coming from my career?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Listen you are so I'm gonna say this to you.
Speaker 3: I have this is your best season. Is your best
Speaker 3: season because you and Angela to me, came in not
Speaker 3: not not not trying too hard, just like.
Speaker 2: Kevin has eased in.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in two different directions. What
Speaker 1: you're giving this season is fantastic. And when you were
Speaker 1: interrogating Britt, me, the gays, the bays, the women, the men,
Speaker 1: we were all like you are like an official meme
Speaker 1: wow right now because you were asking the right questions.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Britt in general? Do you
Speaker 3: think see is somebody you would be friends with?
Speaker 4: Honestly, Britt, I just I just don't see it for
Speaker 4: her here. I think she's wor better maybe for like
Speaker 4: a rags to riches type show, but housewives, nah nah nah,
Speaker 4: I think that you know she.
Speaker 2: She just doesn't want to live in her truth.
Speaker 4: As we see all these allegations around her husband and
Speaker 4: their marriage and then her and then you know, she's
Speaker 4: just not that girl. You know, I think she's beautiful.
Speaker 4: I would never take that away from her. And I
Speaker 4: thought that we could, you know, after our sit down,
Speaker 4: but no, it's a no for me. I think that
Speaker 4: she's just not a good fit for this circle of girls.
Speaker 4: I don't think she displays the integrity and the honesty
Speaker 4: and the truthfulness.
Speaker 2: And she just has a lot going on in her
Speaker 2: past and her and her husband her, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like they have a lot going on, and
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 4: Don't think that they are the most transparent. I think
Speaker 4: they throw a lot of stones and hide their hand.
Speaker 4: And she's just very argumentative, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like she just comes across very angry. I think that
Speaker 4: in the Kenya situation, threatening somebody with a weapon like
Speaker 4: she did, it just I've never dealt with anything like that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, coming to work and feeling like someone is just so.
Speaker 4: Calm and comfortable throwing around pistol and weapons and the
Speaker 4: threats that she did. And so I feel like, although
Speaker 4: I've said a time time again, I don't agree with
Speaker 4: how can you handled it? I just feel like there
Speaker 4: needed to be a conversation, a reprimanding so to speak
Speaker 4: about that behavior.
Speaker 3: Would you like to see Kenya return to the show, Yes,
Speaker 3: so much so.
Speaker 2: I was inviting her the scenes with me, Like.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, this is your real life, right,
Speaker 4: so let's be honest, Carlos, Like, some people give me
Speaker 4: a hard time about my life, but I show my
Speaker 4: real life.
Speaker 2: Other people talk about their life, they talk about it.
Speaker 2: I literally show my life. So for me, if you're
Speaker 2: my friend, I'm like, why are you not coming with me?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Come with me?
Speaker 4: I'm fighting for my friend, which is why I kept
Speaker 4: speaking of for her in her absence. I feel like
Speaker 4: she hasn't deserves a place here, And I just feel
Speaker 4: like what happened to the days that we talk about
Speaker 4: it as grown women and sort out our differences, like
Speaker 4: why all the babysitting and the getting involved and erasing
Speaker 4: people from the group that really do deserve to be here.
Speaker 3: You have been on the show for like is it five?
Speaker 2: This is my fourth season?
Speaker 3: It's your fourth season. Who would you like to be
Speaker 3: on a cast with?
Speaker 1: Like who is who is the drink cast that Drew
Speaker 1: Sodora would want to surround herself with.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's hard. Let's see. Definitely Kenya. You're
Speaker 2: just talking about Kenya.
Speaker 4: Nini because when I think of Atlanta Housewives, I think
Speaker 4: of Nini, and when I see Nini, I'm like Atlanta Housewives.
Speaker 2: So definitely Nini at this point. Remax, right, listen.
Speaker 4: I mean, Sharana Scharen and I've had our moments, but
Speaker 4: there were times where I was like, oh, hell'll just
Speaker 4: come back, you know, and we have text and really
Speaker 4: we have are texting.
Speaker 2: We have text. I'm not gonna text. We have a
Speaker 2: text and through mutual friends we have communicated.
Speaker 4: There is you know, you know, I think just with
Speaker 4: what we had going on at the time, it wasn't
Speaker 4: so far gone that we couldn't be in the space
Speaker 4: that we're in now. And I do respect who she
Speaker 4: has been on the show, who she is, and I
Speaker 4: miss our going back and forth.
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna lie like I really you know,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: Yes seem so long ago last season's reunion because you
Speaker 1: and her have first chair and the back and forth
Speaker 1: between the two.
Speaker 3: Of you were so funny. I was texting like I
Speaker 3: am enjoying this, like it was so funny to me.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you can even say, like, look,
Speaker 1: we had our issues, but what I look back on,
Speaker 1: like what's great for the show, Like Charree's.
Speaker 3: Great for the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shari and I rode next to each other to
Speaker 4: reunion and I'm sitting here helping her with Instagram social media.
Speaker 2: And we're talking and then we get a reunion.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It has definitely been that that type of friendship for us.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we text.
Speaker 2: I just worked with Candy and Todd. Yes, and Candy
Speaker 2: and I have had a clearing and so I would
Speaker 2: say Candy for sure.
Speaker 4: Angela of course. Yeah, I think that about And I
Speaker 4: love Shemiah. You know, Shemiah, you know you are as
Speaker 4: a hospital a friend, as a friend.
Speaker 3: Well you want Shamia to be a friend.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, if Shemiah could show us
Speaker 4: her full like I said, I have given you all
Speaker 4: my husband and my strange husband, and so I just
Speaker 4: feel like that's important for us to really get a
Speaker 4: glimpse to her as a wife too, you know, as
Speaker 4: a housewife.
Speaker 2: We want to see that. I think that's important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so listen, you have been same as for
Speaker 1: so many years although you're legally married, you are going
Speaker 1: through a divorce.
Speaker 3: Are you dating anybody right now?
Speaker 5: Is there any of your old celebrity men that you
Speaker 5: would like to so, you know, Cirkle block, Well.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, spend the block.
Speaker 5: You have had a lot of attractive celebrity men on
Speaker 5: your roster.
Speaker 3: Really, yes, I know who was the most famous guy
Speaker 3: you dated? Oh lord, I got.
Speaker 2: Destroyed for one that I sort of kind of didn't mention.
Speaker 2: Oh oh lord, we want to dig that back up.
Speaker 2: I mean, at the time, listen, he was not married,
Speaker 2: he was not dating.
Speaker 4: Okay, this was when we were very young, but the
Speaker 4: king of the NBA was someone and you can dig
Speaker 4: up newspaper clippings and people wrote about us.
Speaker 2: My sister went online to set the record straight. You
Speaker 2: know that is truth.
Speaker 4: But I did also date young Bird at the time
Speaker 4: when he was younger. Now hit Maka and we are
Speaker 4: still friends.
Speaker 2: I can say that I dated Michael B. Jordan.
Speaker 4: I never said that out loud publicly with people that
Speaker 4: know no and biceps. Hello, listen, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm Carlowska friend.
Speaker 2: Let's said, and that's the truth. He was on well,
Speaker 2: he asked me to be his date to the NAACP Awards.
Speaker 4: And this is when he was on the soap opera
Speaker 4: he was on and yeah, like my sister Allison, he
Speaker 4: would come over and she would cook.
Speaker 2: For him and we went out.
Speaker 4: I met his mom and you know, it was great, Like, yes,
Speaker 4: that that is my past as you would say were
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like I said,
Speaker 4: like my parents were married for sixty years, I wanted
Speaker 4: someone that I felt compatible with outside of the names
Speaker 4: and who they were. I was like, I want what
Speaker 4: I see my parents having. I want that best friend.
Speaker 4: I want that person I'm attracted to as well as
Speaker 4: I feel like we can build something together.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, but dating, I've went on a
Speaker 2: couple of dates. Not gonna act like I haven't gone
Speaker 2: a couple of dates.
Speaker 3: Celebrity man you know, owners of establishments.
Speaker 2: Wow, really you really do?
Speaker 3: Knowing I'm a journalist, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: I think all the above. Okay, yeah, all the above.
Speaker 4: It's been you know, just a quick little date and
Speaker 4: just like okay, but before I find myself going too far,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I gotta wrap this up because this one
Speaker 4: he won't let me be great now he hosted women
Speaker 4: on his social media and.
Speaker 2: Leaves for weeks and weekends at a time, comes home.
Speaker 4: But for me, I feel like, until I wrap this up,
Speaker 4: it's just more messy, you know, and I don't feel
Speaker 4: like I can be as available right now.
Speaker 2: What do you think it's been cute?
Speaker 3: Listen? I will say this.
Speaker 5: Dating when you're either close to forty or after forty
Speaker 5: in this day and age, it's listen. It's a little difficult,
Speaker 5: but I will say, I will say, there's some gems
Speaker 5: out there, but you gotta you gotta listen.
Speaker 3: My advice to you is to explore other areas. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I will say that for you, I got you, I follow, Okay,
Speaker 2: you follow, definitely.
Speaker 1: It I hed.
Speaker 2: I've never tried, but I don't know. Let's diversify, hadn't
Speaker 2: he like your.
Speaker 5: Portfolio, diversify your portfolio of income of you know, incoming
Speaker 5: manify your portfolio?
Speaker 2: Well, thank you?
Speaker 3: Is that gonna be joining a single?
Speaker 2: So yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm more of an organic girly, like
Speaker 4: if it happened and we need and we see and
Speaker 4: we vibe at this point in our lives, it has
Speaker 4: to be a natural thing. For me, I don't really
Speaker 4: like the like flying dates and the setups. I'm like,
Speaker 4: if it happens, it happens. And I think right now,
Speaker 4: honestly with everything, y'all see that I'm dealing with this,
Speaker 4: like I don't really have the capacity to take anyone
Speaker 4: serious right now, and I really need to get back
Speaker 4: to a place where I trust again because being married
Speaker 4: for ten years and having who you think is your
Speaker 4: person that you trust and to realize you.
Speaker 2: That was Ops.
Speaker 4: Basically I look at him, it's almost the Ops. Now,
Speaker 4: how do I trust somebody again, you know, in that way.
Speaker 4: So I'm very guarded, very very guarded.
Speaker 5: Your album is so good, and I feel like you
Speaker 5: and co Cooke Jones are like bringing R and B back,
Speaker 5: you know, in this, in this in its natural form.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: I listen to it a lot, and you, first of
Speaker 5: all listen. I feel like, the world please.
Speaker 3: Buy this album, stream it whatever.
Speaker 1: But you can sing, you are a singer, but talk
Speaker 1: to me about the album because if people listen to
Speaker 1: or when people listen to her rather, you do share
Speaker 1: a lot about what you're going through.
Speaker 3: But it's such a personal.
Speaker 1: Album that I really want the world to really listen
Speaker 1: to it to understand more about who drew sidor Ismen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so talk to me about about this album and
Speaker 3: why people should cop it.
Speaker 2: This album, like I.
Speaker 4: Said, it is bigger than me. Not only will you
Speaker 4: listen to this album, but you will feel this album.
Speaker 2: It is a journey. So people say, well, what's your
Speaker 2: favorite record?
Speaker 4: You know, and I'm like, for me, you can't take
Speaker 4: one record because when you take out one record, it
Speaker 4: doesn't tell the full story from where I was when
Speaker 4: I recorded my first record, which was better on my
Speaker 4: own in this studio, and just the progression of how
Speaker 4: I felt.
Speaker 2: You can literally feel the heartbreak. You can feel the
Speaker 2: days that I was like could I rekindle this with
Speaker 2: my husband?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: You feel the days where I was like everybody f
Speaker 4: him and I'm outside. You know, you feel the journey
Speaker 4: of healing. And that's really what it was. People say
Speaker 4: why didnnis?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why not?
Speaker 4: You know, I got the music sent to my management,
Speaker 4: my management, and it was the music that got us
Speaker 4: to this point. It wasn't about the person. You know,
Speaker 4: you never know who the vehicle's gonna be. And listen,
Speaker 4: Vincent Herbert signed me to death.
Speaker 3: Jam.
Speaker 2: I was sign a slipping slide, I.
Speaker 4: Was signed a babyface. I mean I worked with so
Speaker 4: many amazing producers.
Speaker 2: And yet nothing ever came out.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: When people say music is powerful, music is powerful. So
Speaker 4: this wasn't about the perfect situation of the perfect person.
Speaker 4: It was about the music that was coming in my
Speaker 4: inbox that I felt like was my therapy. It was
Speaker 4: speaking to my heart and my spirit, and it was
Speaker 4: what I needed in that season to get out to
Speaker 4: help me to get to this place that you said
Speaker 4: you see as freedom as a piece that I can
Speaker 4: sit in because keeping that internalized it wasn't doing nothing
Speaker 4: for me. It really wasn't, and I can admit that
Speaker 4: at now there was things that I wasn't able to
Speaker 4: talk about or express, and I felt like with this album,
Speaker 4: I said everything I needed to say, from the good,
Speaker 4: the bad, the ugly, the bloodswey and tears.
Speaker 2: I literally like cried on this album.
Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like it's connecting in a
Speaker 4: way that's different from anything else I've done.
Speaker 3: And talk to me about that.
Speaker 2: Boo God is good, Like I really I gotta.
Speaker 4: Give it to him because the response obviously coming out
Speaker 4: debuting number four on the charts.
Speaker 2: I'm almost Golden streams A graduations generally aw thousand away.
Speaker 3: No, that's made during this climate.
Speaker 2: It is amazing to get a plaque, you know, I'll.
Speaker 4: Give my gold plaque, but the incoming calls that are
Speaker 4: coming from major labels. So we got offers to go
Speaker 4: out on tour, and now we have locked in a
Speaker 4: tour this year literally this summer, this summerfall.
Speaker 2: I'll be on tour spring summer, Like I said, no spring,
Speaker 2: summer fall. Huh no, no, no, honey, small priet something.
Speaker 1: More than less.
Speaker 2: Ten city tour. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, you're doing good. I mean listen, the song
Speaker 1: is the song? S excuse me, mar great, the album's great.
Speaker 1: You're going on tour. Yeah, you're back your acting bag.
Speaker 1: I want to see more of you doing that to you.
Speaker 1: You've been great on Lifetime stuff that I've watched, and
Speaker 1: you have fans in that industry too, and then you're
Speaker 1: on a Listen, this season of The Real House Spots
Speaker 1: of Atlanta is so good, and you are on the
Speaker 1: most talked about reality show that's airing right now, and
Speaker 1: you have a lot going on. We are in the
Speaker 1: middle of the rest of the season padres Co, I'm back. Yes,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Phage's return to the show.
Speaker 4: You know, Phaedra is an og, so I always got
Speaker 4: to respect an og. That's just how I operate. However,
Speaker 4: I know she didn't do a lot on marriage to medicine,
Speaker 4: and then she came on our show pretty much at
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that we'll see her next year.
Speaker 3: What did she do when she came back, Well, she.
Speaker 4: Was trying to get to know everybody, so she gave
Speaker 4: us faces, and she gave a lot of faces, you know,
Speaker 4: and some laughs.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I can't say anything bad per se.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't say anything bad. I can't. And
Speaker 2: we were pretty much done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The work was done. So we'll see. We'll see season seventeen,
Speaker 2: sin Store.
Speaker 3: You are, you are something else.
Speaker 1: Listen, ladies, jump tom Gays and days, give it up
Speaker 1: for the beautiful.
Speaker 3: This has been worth it. The two years has been
Speaker 3: worth it. I listen. I am so proud of you.
Speaker 1: I love you, and you listen, keep doing what you're doing,
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: what you're going to bring at this upcoming reunion in
Speaker 1: season seventeenth.
Speaker 3: Love you, love you so much. Oh God, it's been
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 2: It's been so good.
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