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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit un

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Speaker 1: forget about moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 2: Also as.

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Speaker 3: What you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Taking care of myself okay, yes, putting me first, that's

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Speaker 4: the name of the game.

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Speaker 1: I want to be able to lie because listen is

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And the beauty of Reality with the King is I'm

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Speaker 1: stepping into your reality.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm here, Yes, we are here, and I want

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Speaker 3: to get in the booth.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, the song the mic is on. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: I like it. Tour, have you on my stage?

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Speaker 1: We're going on tour.

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Speaker 2: We're going on tour.

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Speaker 3: Before we get on.

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Speaker 4: Tour, I okay, okay, we gotta spill the tea, all right,

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Speaker 4: all right, because you know, music is like your baby,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So it really matters out

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Speaker 4: of all the work that I've done in my life.

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Speaker 4: It really matters the most what people feel and and

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Speaker 4: vibe and and think of my music and me as

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Speaker 4: a musical artist.

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Speaker 2: You know, this, by far was my scariest bike. You

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Speaker 2: know venture I can say thus far in my whole career.

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Speaker 5: Believe it or not, I've heard nothing you said because

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Speaker 5: I'm distracted by your beauty.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, listen that lefore we did, We did that phase.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is?

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Speaker 1: I think I met you before, but your energy and

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Speaker 1: your vibe is giving like not not that you weren't

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Speaker 1: confident when I met you, but it's giving a certain

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Speaker 1: level of.

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Speaker 5: Calmness, serenity, happiness.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is. It's giving freedom. I feel

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Speaker 3: like you're free, you know what I'm saying. And and honey,

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Speaker 3: you are beat to the gods.

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Speaker 2: You are listening for you, I had to from head

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Speaker 2: to toe.

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Speaker 4: I called him the best glam okay that I know

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Speaker 4: in all of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: So did you pay them? Because they said, are we

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Speaker 1: starting off?

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Speaker 2: Listen? Nobody?

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Speaker 3: I don't don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, No, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to?

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said, what are your former Okay? Uh huh, said

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Speaker 1: that you did not pay him, and he's waiting for him.

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Speaker 4: That one to be my face today, the one that

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Speaker 4: be my face today, said.

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Speaker 3: That is he?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was here, they saw him. Yeah, he'd be

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Speaker 4: my face today. He was here for he bay for

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Speaker 4: his job back.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, are you hello, freedom on the beat? Yes?

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Speaker 2: What's freedom on the beat today?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: And he did it for my assistants there, he did

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Speaker 2: it for Oh. Oh okay, let's talk about it because

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Speaker 2: what they say is a lot of things. But I

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Speaker 2: am here with you to clear up the lies.

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Speaker 4: It takes a lots of gag Carlos, no lies so ever.

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Speaker 3: Actually, so the check cleared.

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Speaker 2: The check always.

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Speaker 4: Clears, honey, because my bland can tell you, my people.

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Speaker 4: I really pride myself because I've been in businesses two

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Speaker 4: thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: I've been working since I was eight years old.

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Speaker 3: In Hollywood twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're gonna thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: My mom was my business manager growing up, and you know,

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Speaker 4: she taught me and instilled in me like good work,

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Speaker 4: habits and integrity, you know, and so paying people with

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Speaker 4: my little business, you know, the.

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Speaker 2: Little engine that could. I really am happy to be

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Speaker 2: able to pay my invoices.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't even he yet, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, So it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Also need to love about net thirty.

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Speaker 2: I don't even do net thirty, don't.

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Speaker 4: I just learned about net thirty and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: hold on because my people like same day service, the

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Speaker 4: zell and the wires and so now we've done like

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Speaker 4: a three to five business days.

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Speaker 2: Guys, that's good. I want a few.

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Speaker 4: Voices on Christmas Eve and I'm like, I wasn't my kids,

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Speaker 4: but I still send it because you know, I know

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Speaker 4: how important it is for the house. So like, I

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Speaker 4: really treat my people well. Like I have chefs. Everybody

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Speaker 4: knows my chef.

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Speaker 2: I've had her on my chef.

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Speaker 4: I keep a chef, and I love to throw those

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Speaker 4: appreciations in employee engagement, dinner's, lunches, pool parties, Like I

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Speaker 4: really appreciate the people because I understand it takes a

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Speaker 4: lot to show up, you know it does. It takes

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Speaker 4: a team, and it's not just me operating it. So

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Speaker 4: all those things you hear, I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 4: don't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but that's amazing. Why I am here.

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Speaker 5: This has been two years in the making. I wanted

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Speaker 5: to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Last season things can't work out logistically, and this year

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Speaker 1: we get a chance to sit down and clear the air.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I know that you know that.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because when I met you for the

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Speaker 5: first time at Si Bashery fashion show and he was like, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't like me? What do you mean, Drew. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying anything bad about you.

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Speaker 3: You don't like me, I said, Drew, I actually like

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Speaker 3: you a lot.

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Speaker 5: But what I will say this season on the Real

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Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta Season sixteen, it's an amazing season and

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Speaker 5: we are being Drew Sidora.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: Feel the difference with the audience reception of you this

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Speaker 1: season than past seasons.

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Speaker 4: You know, I try not to get caught up in

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Speaker 4: that because I kind of just since I've come on

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Speaker 4: the show, it's like I just let the cameras catch

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Speaker 4: me where I am. I live my reality and I

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Speaker 4: kind of leave it there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I hear things.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, people keep me in tune with what's going on,

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Speaker 4: but I really don't know what the fans want, you know,

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Speaker 4: I hear things. Of course I see a few things,

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Speaker 4: but I really just try to stay in my truth

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Speaker 4: and in my integrity, and I just feel like, for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason, I've gotten some labels that just are not real,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Sit down with you because you know, you may talk

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Speaker 4: to people here and there and do your little interviews,

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Speaker 4: but I felt like with you, what I appreciate is

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Speaker 4: that you are able to humanize things, and I felt like,

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Speaker 4: from the first time we talked, like you actually care,

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Speaker 4: you know, And I just wanted to be able to

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Speaker 4: have this moment to sit down to just clear up

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Speaker 4: a lot of the misconceptions about me and just really

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Speaker 4: give an opportunity unfiltered to talk about, you know, everything anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm an open book, always have been.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes what you see in the matter of a

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Speaker 4: couple of minutes doesn't tell the full story.

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Speaker 5: No, And as a producer, I know that I know them,

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Speaker 5: know that. And listen, when you came on the show,

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Speaker 5: we were all excited. We know you from the game

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Speaker 5: you play Iconic t on T Boss Watkins and the

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Speaker 5: TLC biopic on VH one.

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Speaker 3: You had a long career.

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Speaker 1: I love going on Twitter and seeing old movie clips

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Speaker 1: of you. I know, right, you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: because a lot of us are reminded that Juice Door

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Speaker 1: has always been that girl. So when you got on

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Speaker 1: the show, there was this, and we talked about this

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Speaker 1: off camera a couple of years ago. There was this

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Speaker 1: perception that, Okay, it's giving Tyler Perry movies.

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Speaker 3: You know, is Drew acting?

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Speaker 1: Is she not able to sit in the moment? And

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to you about that, just us Chatty,

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Speaker 1: and I want the world to know this. When I

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Speaker 1: said that to you to your face, you did not

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Speaker 1: understand it, and you were so caught off guard. You said, Carlos,

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Speaker 1: do you really think I'm not being real? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, it comes across a little acting, and you

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Speaker 5: Not upset by that's the wrong word, but you were

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Speaker 5: perplexed by that comment. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 5: about that because I said it on my podcast before, like.

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Speaker 3: Is it acting?

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Speaker 1: And your reaction to me was so real. So I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about that. Why were you shocked by

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I was shocked because, like I said, I never

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Speaker 4: really get caught up in what the fans say, or

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Speaker 4: I'm an actress, you know, if people didn't like me

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Speaker 4: from this role or that's that role or the game,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, that's my work, and I kind

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Speaker 4: of just leave it there and move on to the next.

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Speaker 4: So with this, I'm like I chose to come on

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Speaker 4: reality because it was not something I ever saw myself doing,

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Speaker 4: but because I felt like people have seen me in

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Speaker 4: these various roles but never seen me as like the

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Speaker 4: human being that I am and seeing the good, the bad,

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Speaker 4: the ugly.

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Speaker 2: The struggle.

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Speaker 4: And I felt like after COVID, you know, I was

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Speaker 4: going through like a rupture to Achilles, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I want to just be more vulnerable, you know. I

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Speaker 4: want to have an opportunity to connect with my family

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Speaker 4: and just show me as more of like the mother,

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Speaker 4: the wife, the sister, you know, all of the things

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Speaker 4: that I am. So I was taking a bags. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: all I did was show my true self. I came

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Speaker 4: on the show in an Achilles rupture, boot I didn't

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Speaker 4: come on the show in alul Baton. I was literally

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Speaker 4: at my lowest and so I really just let go

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Speaker 4: of all of what people would expect me to appear.

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Speaker 2: And was my most rawish self.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and everything that I've shown has been my

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Speaker 4: real life. So when you said it to me, I

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Speaker 4: was like, wait what because there was never any thought

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Speaker 4: that it wasn't, you know what I mean, real, because

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Speaker 4: I was living and sitting in my truth to the

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Speaker 4: point where I came on.

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Speaker 2: The show really to show like black love, you know.

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Speaker 4: Ralph and I talked about showing black love family believers.

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Speaker 4: We showed my church, my mom had, you know. That

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Speaker 4: was what we wanted, and where we ended up was

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Speaker 4: completely opposite. It was the toxicity of our marriage and

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Speaker 4: that's not what I wanted. So that was actually my

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Speaker 4: worst nightmare, you know what I mean. But when people

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Speaker 4: thought it was fake, I'm like, I wish it was us,

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Speaker 4: you know, because this is not the reality I ever wanted.

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Speaker 5: I'm like here to regurgitate that I'm not married to

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Speaker 4: But they had this meeting and so let's say respectfully,

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Speaker 3: And I remember that in that moment, I said, and

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Speaker 4: Ty was someone at that time that gave me attention

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Speaker 4: He waited for reason, and I feel like that friendship

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Speaker 4: I was waiting when portion Shamia asked, have you ever

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Speaker 5: I only want to push you as far as you

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Speaker 5: So I really want you to tell me respectfully when

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Speaker 3: What do you have to say to that when you're talking.

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Speaker 4: Intimate kiss flirting, Yes, okay, a lot of flirting. I'm

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Speaker 2: Now I can't help if.

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Speaker 4: You know Ty felt differently or how she felt, I

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Speaker 4: the reason why he wanted to divorce was because of Tie,

447
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: because that wasn't actually true.

448
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you when he said that

449
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 5: was the reason.

450
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.

451
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: When Ralph said the reason why we're divorc things because

452
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 5: of Tie, I felt that Rap wanted.

453
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: To find a reason to bring up Tie. And it

454
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: goes back to what I saw a few episodes ago.

455
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I just felt like Rap.

456
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: Is determined to embarrass you, and he wanted that to

457
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: come out the way it appeared.

458
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: And what I will give you prompts on is when

459
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: he said it. They did do a flashback of but

460
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: seeing you do the film and everything is saying so

461
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: she listen to your credit, everything you're saying to me

462
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: you said on camera.

463
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: They aired that that six second snippet.

464
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 5: So, but that's why I felt the intention was to

465
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: embarrass you. I've been around time before she dated my

466
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: friend Mimi Foust. Tie is fine and yeah, I could

467
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 5: probably have me.

468
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, and a couple of duds I talked

469
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: to you, let's not pretend yeah, they'll say yeah and

470
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 4: swagged out and is a really good person. And I

471
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: think that's why, even to this day we're still friends.

472
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: You know, I would never say, oh, she's not a

473
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 4: good person, or minimize or you know.

474
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Extreme our our friendship.

475
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 4: It was just the intimidation that I feel Ralph felt,

476
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: which I'm not gonna say. You know, I can't speak

477
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: for him, but I just feel like it was an

478
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: intimidation there, and I feel like he was looking and

479
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: grabbing on the straws of the reason why he could

480
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: depart this marriage and for what I endured. Listen, my

481
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 4: parents were married for sixty years until my father passed away.

482
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: So I grew up desiring marriage, wanting marriage. All marriage

483
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 4: was forever because I didn't know anything different. So the

484
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 4: times that he asked for divorce or I found that

485
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: he was with other women, I didn't ever consider divorce.

486
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did it.

487
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: I fought for my marriage, I fought for my kids.

488
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: I fought for my family. And I just feel like

489
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: he was always putting that word out there and his

490
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: behavior on the show, I felt like he showed the

491
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 4: most toxic side of him. Because, as you said, he's fine,

492
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: he's nice, he's cool, he's charming. I mean, I married

493
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: him for those reasons. So he's an aquarius. He's Aquarius.

494
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and a few.

495
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: Mal Aquarius child, we'll talk got all blive.

496
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna gag you.

497
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: He carries the same birthday as my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

498
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: Get it now, Okay, I get it. I did it.

499
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: I get it.

500
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Listen.

501
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: I've dated ballplayers, I've dated rappers, musicians, whatever, actors. But

502
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: him having the same worthday as my dad, I was like, wait,

503
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: you know it had me to pay attention to him,

504
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: and I really thought I was marrying my father.

505
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: I did, so come no.

506
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: I listen.

507
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I feel your energy and I feel everything you're you're giving.

508
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: This is the most burnable I've ever seen you be. Seriously,

509
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: and if the audience was in this realm, they both

510
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: feel it. Till I just want you to know if

511
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: you're going to be okay, you're going to be okay.

512
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: And and I don't want to make you cry again,

513
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: but my my spirit's telling me tell you this.

514
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: Your father said you did the right thing.

515
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: You did the right thing, and sometimes what happens in life,

516
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 5: you have to go through this turmoil so that you

517
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 5: won't ever go back. And I feel like, because you're

518
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: such a because I'm from the Midwest too.

519
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 3: Detroit folks, Chicago folks. We don't leave our relationship. We

520
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: just don't. We don't leave, we stay. We stay.

521
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 5: We stay because we feel like with this tradition. And

522
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 5: I want you to know, your father is giving you

523
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 5: permission to leave. And the reason why you're going through

524
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 5: this hell on earth with rap is because everybody in

525
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: heaven who are your guarding angels, they want you to

526
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 5: know you can never go back, even when you have

527
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 5: those moments where you're crying yourself to sleep at night,

528
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 5: and I know you do, even when you're around the

529
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 5: kids and you sometimes wonder could I just do this

530
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: for the kids. I want you to know, I know,

531
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: I know, I feel it, I feel it. I want

532
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: you to know your father is giving you permission to

533
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: never go back, and you're going through this hell so

534
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: that it can be so disastrous that you know, deep

535
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: down inside you can ever go back to that marriage.

536
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: And I'm not calling ral a disaster, So don't don't don't.

537
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: Don't make that the headline, y'all. But I need you

538
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: to know my spirit is speaking to you and your

539
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: father is telling me to tell you are going to

540
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 5: be okay.

541
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: You're gonna be okay, and you're gonna be okay financially too.

542
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: You are that that was the last thing you want

543
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: to tell you financially gonna be good.

544
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna be good. They're gonna be good.

545
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: What I would like to also address, speaking of finances,

546
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: is you are working with porschas baby Daddy Dennis and.

547
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: You made a comment.

548
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: About girl, I will sell so much music they can

549
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: pay for Pollard's college to wish for college fund.

550
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: Of course, did not like that at all.

551
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Child.

552
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: She thought you brought her daughter too this situation.

553
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear up the air

554
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: in terms of what you meant by that comment.

555
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: Well, watching it back, what I did see was that

556
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: Shemiah carried that conversation to Porsche and it wasn't taken

557
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: in the spirit that I said it. So that's first.

558
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: Porscha was like, well, that's not the way Shamiah delivered

559
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: it to me. The way Angela said it. She was like, Okay,

560
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: that's not so bad. So I want to go on

561
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 4: record saying what I said wasn't bad. And what I

562
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: was saying in that moment was because I keep getting

563
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: asked the same question why Dennis.

564
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Why are you working with Dennis?

565
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: So when Shamia asked me that in that moment, I

566
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: was like, this is what Dennis himself said, which I

567
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: hope I get a flashback, because he said, out of

568
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: his own mouth, I'm doing this to build's legacy for

569
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: my daughter.

570
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: He said it on camp.

571
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 4: He did, and he continues to say it because I've

572
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: got text messages and he would stand here and tell

573
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: you that he is not just a hot dog man.

574
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: You know, he is a serial entrepreneur, which Porscha has

575
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: said out of her mouth. And he said he believed

576
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: in I mean, we stood in this studio and he

577
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: literally was emotional because he said, I believe in you

578
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: so much. I know this is going to build wealth

579
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: and legacy for our kids. This is going to help

580
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: me put my daughter through college. So I was saying

581
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: that as a way to validate his reasoning and what

582
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: I believe as a blessing it would be for our families.

583
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm a mother, So no one was saying and it

584
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: wasn't braggadocious, but this is a blessing for all of us, you.

585
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

586
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: This is why I'm doing it. This music is bigger

587
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: than me, and so that was the intention. And then

588
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: when she said, well, I think her college has been

589
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: paid for her, so well maybe some whatever it can do,

590
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: I feel like it's going to be able to do something.

591
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this to get back at Porsche. This

592
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with porsia actually, and I'm not

593
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: doing it to be negative in any way. This is

594
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: something I think can be a blessing.

595
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: When you saw that there's this narrative that you tried

596
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: to solicit sex from Denniz and you said something along

597
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: the lines allegedly you want to Dennis, and Dennis said

598
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: he's not trying to provide Dick. He's trying to provide

599
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: you know, tracks.

600
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's still girls head in head.

601
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: Let's say we love and hip hop after all. Well,

602
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: so I want to know, were you ever attracted to Dennis?

603
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: Now have you not seen my husband? I like a

604
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: certain physique. I like biceps, not bellies. I really know,

605
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: if it's to tennis, I mean, but I mean the

606
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: physiques are different. That's what I'm saying that the physiques

607
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: are definitely different. No, yeah, okay, I'm just saying I

608
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: like my If you know, you know, and if you

609
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: see you see and if you know, it's different, it's different,

610
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: and so it's just unbelievable to me. It's like, are

611
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: we believing this? And I don't think people are believing it.

612
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: I don't think you're believing it. Not only the fans

613
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: are buying it. I think that Larisia was brought here

614
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: to give a life and a story that she wasn't

615
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: able to deliver, and so that is the reason my

616
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 4: name is brought up in every scene, every episode, every moment,

617
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: even in her confessionals.

618
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: So that's just what we're seeing.

619
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate because in my real life I'm dealing

620
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: with so much that when I come into this friend group,

621
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: it's just so.

622
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: Far from the truth. You know, you hear the music.

623
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: What we were doing was real.

624
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: You see the fruits of our labor, and it wasn't

625
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: easy and it was a journey, and people really got

626
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: behind it, and so much so portionally, I was a

627
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: fan of the music before cameras were what do you.

628
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: Mean she was? She and I had a conversation.

629
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: She said this on I want to say episode one

630
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: and maybe episode two. She definitely said we had a conversation.

631
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: Dennis invited her to my birthday party. Why would Dennis

632
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: be inviting you to my birthday party if you had

633
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: no idea? So people gotta and I think the fans

634
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: are seeing it. The fans are really smart. Like I

635
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: can say this season, the people see it's what it

636
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: really is. And what it really is is that Porsche

637
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: and I had a conversation and I told her about

638
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: me working with Dennis. Let me back up, because when

639
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 4: she was missus Gubadia, I reached out to her multiple times,

640
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: multiple times. I text her multiple times, I called her

641
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: multiple times. And what I know now about Portia is

642
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: she's just not a girl's girl and she's just not

643
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: a good friend. So in my reaching out to her,

644
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: she was busy off living her princess African life, and

645
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: no one heard from Porsche. She wasn't showing up, she

646
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: wasn't around us. We didn't see her. We saw her

647
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: on Instagram. We saw the life on Instagram that she

648
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: was putting out there. So therefore that's what it was.

649
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: And so I didn't get any return phone calls. It

650
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 4: was not reciprocated. It wasn't reciprocated. I'm reaching out, you're

651
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: not reaching out to me. When she heard about the divorce.

652
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: She never reached out to me. When I heard about

653
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: her divorce, I immediately reached out to her. But at a

654
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: certain point in time, and I have the text messages.

655
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: I was like, you need to call me, you know,

656
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: And she said, well, let's go to eat. I said, listen.

657
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: She wanted to know what are the new girls? Like,

658
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: I don't know about the new girls. I don't know anything,

659
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: but I need to see you. I need to talk

660
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: to you.

661
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh not you trying to bait me.

662
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: I need to talk to you because I felt like

663
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 4: it was something that was important to talk about. So

664
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 4: she called me. We had a conversation. She's like, yeah,

665
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I love the music. I love

666
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: what you and Dinnis were doing. We were in this

667
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: studio and Dennis will call her, hey girl. She knew

668
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: what we were doing, she knew were working on. Dennis

669
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 4: was like, she loves this track.

670
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: She loves this track. What was Force's favorite track on

671
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 2: your album?

672
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: All of them?

673
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 6: Okay, she said, And she said the album is.

674
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: A hit, so she loves the project as a whole.

675
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Or she'll call me uh.

676
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: Because she apologized for not making it to my birthday party.

677
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: And she said, come hang out with me and Yandy.

678
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Let's go out, girl. We need to talk and celebrate

679
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: with so much to celebrate, with so much talk about

680
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: with our divorces. And I was like, girl, I'm tired

681
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: because my birthday party was a lot and I'm about

682
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: to lay it down. And so when I saw her

683
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: ash MEA's birthday party, I'm like, let's do some shots,

684
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: Like what's some girl. I was just so happy to

685
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: see my girl. So when she came at me, that's

686
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: why my mouth was open.

687
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: And I didn't really you die was flabbergast, and.

688
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was so confused because I'm like.

689
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: We definitely like talked a couple of times, and we've

690
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: already talked about this, you know, because as a friend,

691
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: I felt like.

692
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: It was important to do so.

693
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: So so the conversation had when it happened was on

694
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: her terms. But it definitely happened and there was no beef,

695
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: there was no issue. There was no we need to

696
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: have a conversation, we need to have a sit down

697
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: because I'm feeling away.

698
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: It was none of that.

699
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: So that's why I was taken aback and I was

700
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 4: just like, I didn't doubt or not, because this energy

701
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: seemed to be for the camera.

702
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: When you are watching this season and the fall, and

703
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 5: obviously we did see Shamia's birthday party, we saw what

704
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: happened in the first episode, and now we're seeing this

705
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 5: destruction between SMI and portious friendship.

706
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I would like for you to clear the air on

707
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: this as well. Angela Oakley yours Chaitao sis.

708
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: I love it. Oh my god. I tried to get

709
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Angela on a few seasons ago. I tried to tell the.

710
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: Girls, we're trying to get Angela. I don't know us

711
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: season three. I was watching it back. I'm like, I

712
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: don't know us season three, but maybe with season six, okay,

713
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: but we.

714
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Tried to get Angela. I'm gonna get calls about Angela Oakley.

715
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: I think it's when she first started dating Charles. I

716
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: think of like two thousand and fifteen.

717
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: No me about right.

718
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but long story short, trying to get her on,

719
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Like I remember us trying to get her.

720
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: On, but I got dress.

721
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: She's here now.

722
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: She's a great job.

723
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: So Angela revealed that you her as Shamia had dinner

724
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: one night and that allegedly Samia put out her pinky

725
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: her pinky finger and said what exactly what did she say?

726
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: We did all that. That's that's exactly what happened, so

727
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: all three. So it was like it was given, yeah,

728
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: and then it was like you.

729
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: Activation, it was activated.

730
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Well, Angela said she had her fingers crossed behind her

731
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: back because trust girls show listen.

732
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: I pinky s were because Sami and I have known

733
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: each other and I feel like we have grown to

734
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: build what I would consider a friendship over the years.

735
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know you.

736
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: I just met you yesterday, So I love an energy,

737
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: but Shmi and.

738
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: I have built a rapport and a friendship over the years.

739
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: But it was like this wrestling with Shemiah is the

740
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: best way I could put it into words. It was

741
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: a wrestling and we had a cocktail or two and

742
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: she felt vulnerable and I feel like she felt comfortable

743
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: and she needed to get this out. And so she

744
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: was like, I need us to pinky swear because what

745
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm about to tell you, I need to feel it

746
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: like I'm in a safe space. So we pinky swear,

747
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what's wrong, you know? And she went

748
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: on to tell us that she felt like you know

749
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: she needed to be real and address the issues that

750
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: she has in a friendship with Portia. She went on

751
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: to say how she didn't want to come across as

752
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: though now she's got a peach and she's here and

753
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: now she's going to tear down her friend who helped

754
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 4: her to get.

755
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: On on the show.

756
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: She didn't want the fans to come for her in

757
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 4: that way, to feel like she's ungrateful or a bad friend.

758
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 4: So I can tell you she was considering the fans

759
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: and the look of how we'll come across as we

760
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: see now she's talking, you know, because she's like, okay,

761
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm in a good place. But then she was just like,

762
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: you know, this is Porsia's show. She's the HBI C

763
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: and I don't know if this is a good idea,

764
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: but this is the real And she went on to

765
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: say that you know, there's the friendship is not in

766
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: the place that everyone thinks that it's in. She was

767
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: hurt by the fact that Porsche didn't come to her wedding.

768
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: She was hurt by the fact that Porscha did not

769
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: ever congratulate her for getting a peach, nor ever take

770
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: her out to celebrate her I would never know this.

771
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: I would never know this, and I never would have

772
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: thought that that was the case because Instagram shows like

773
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: this great beautiful, you know, friendship.

774
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: But there was a plethora of things that Amiya.

775
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 4: Said that I feel like, uh Shamiah needs to vocalize, right,

776
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: because that's her story, that's her pain, that's her journey.

777
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 4: But she had a lot to say about how she

778
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: felt like Porscha was not a good friend to her

779
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 4: and that she has been a very loyal friend to Porsha.

780
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 4: And we only encouraged her because myself and I've always

781
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: told Angela, I told Sonya and how I've lived on

782
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: this show is speak your truth and just be you,

783
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: and that's all I can say.

784
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: And so we Encouragemia to do that.

785
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: And I think with us now knowing this and Angela

786
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: speaking of Porsha, it was bound to come out, and

787
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: it did.

788
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: It came out.

789
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: Do you think.

790
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: Samia is just tired of being the background singer in

791
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Force's life. Yeah.

792
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: I think that Smia first and foremost is such a

793
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: humble spirit. She is such a pure soul. I just

794
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: love her. I just love who she is, and she's

795
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: so dynamic and she has so much energy, and she

796
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: just seems like she puts on a happy front, like

797
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just be the life of the party, I'm

798
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: make everybody laugh, and she doesn't really get an opportunity

799
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 4: to open up about who she is and how she's

800
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: fittling because she's never been in a position to so

801
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: the friend of the show she became the friend in

802
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: real life. The cheerleader on the court was the cheerleader

803
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: that I think she was for a lot.

804
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: Of people, you know, but particularly Portia.

805
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: So seeing her in this position, I felt like this

806
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: was her opportunity to exhale and release, release and exhale,

807
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: and I just felt for her because I know what

808
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: it feels like to be in a relationship friendship and

809
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: you feel like you can't really speak your truth, but

810
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: you want to clear the air. So hopefully you guys

811
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: can get to a better place. And you know, I

812
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 4: don't know if they will get to a better place.

813
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: Of course, I don't wish breakups fallouts on anybody.

814
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: It's so hard and it's heartbreaking.

815
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: To see, but this was something she yeah, definitely was

816
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: at a breaking point and needed to get out.

817
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Do you think for me is Porson's lap dog.

818
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I stand on that. I stand on that.

819
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: I said it. You'll see I said it.

820
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: I said it a couple of times actually, I mean

821
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: cause it's just, you know, I believe that's who she is,

822
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: because again, you know, when you don't speak your truth,

823
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: what are you?

824
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: You know, if you, like I said, are barking up.

825
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 4: A tree and not being your own tree, we don't

826
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: really know who you are. You know, you're you're under

827
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 4: someone else's shade, You're under someone else's genealogy, someone else's truth.

828
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: She's been living under Portscha's shadow. And I just felt

829
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: like that is the best word. People said it before

830
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: me on this show. She was a lap dog, And

831
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: I say it for myself now because that's what I've seen.

832
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 4: For her to come for me about something that portion

833
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: already spoke about is lap dog behavior. For her to

834
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: run back a very innocent conversation back to Portia and

835
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 4: take it in any negative light.

836
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: Is lap dog behavior.

837
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: For her not to stand on business about what she

838
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: shared with Angela and I and sulk in the moment

839
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: and not stand and.

840
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: Arrive is lapt dog behavior. Yeah.

841
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: And you know, I know a couple of puppies and

842
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: I have a couple of dog traits, so I can

843
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: identify you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just saying,

844
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: I just you know, do.

845
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: You have any doctrines?

846
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: I think you're one. I gotta keep them on hand.

847
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: I'll run it into all kind of the LULUs and animals,

848
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 4: the zoo and the jug all together.

849
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: Jesus.

850
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: So when you went to Nashville, right, I love that

851
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: Angela invite to you.

852
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: You go in and long story short, you saw me

853
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: episode that when Porsche came to the table, it was.

854
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: Pokah, God nothing listen. I'll just be honest.

855
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: It reminded me of like my days working on this

856
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: show because I know those girls so well that when

857
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: they would come to a dinner seat and give nothing,

858
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, well they mad at Now what happened?

859
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: So you learned that she found out that Dinis was

860
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 5: filming with you, and you left the trip early.

861
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: You were like, I'm out of here.

862
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: And then when you watch the episode, obviously you film

863
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: the entire season, so you knew what was going on.

864
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: But I want to get your thoughts on this.

865
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 5: Being a married woman right a'lbeit a strange but still

866
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: a married woman who was married.

867
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: For ten years when Porscha made that joke about she's

868
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: better leave me alone for fuck her husband, and you

869
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: saw media Kelly and Britt you know, laugh at it

870
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: and not saying anything.

871
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: And the married women in that pool, it's Shmiah and

872
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 5: Brett right as a married warman yourself, if you were

873
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 5: in that pool with them and you heard portion make

874
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: that joke, as y'all I get bonds, whatever, would you

875
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 5: have done what the other girls did or would you

876
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: have said something?

877
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: Listen when Angela woke me up after she addressed the situation,

878
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: because I'll sleep it in my bunk bed comfortably. And

879
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: when she woke me up to tell me what had happened,

880
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, no, no, no, we got to

881
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: go outside. We got who said it and what did

882
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: they say? I wanted to address it, and she was like,

883
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: already I already addressed it. So for me, I obviously

884
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: believe in the institution of marriage so much that I

885
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: was like, even to the point where Angela has forgiven Porsche,

886
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm still feeling a way about it because I'm like,

887
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: when you make those high with threats about someone's husband,

888
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: that's not so easily forgivable to me. Filming with my

889
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: let's be clear, husband for me, is where she crossed

890
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: the line. I think husband's marriage it's sacred. You know,

891
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 4: you go before witnesses, your family, are friends, and before

892
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: God himself. I just think it sits a little different

893
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: outside of just the shade. You know, if you want

894
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: to talk about I made this innocent comment about your kids,

895
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: but you're talking about someone's husband, the father of her children.

896
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: I think that's a new low for Portia and I

897
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: would have definitely addressed it, and I don't think that

898
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: I would have forgiven it so easily either.

899
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: You think Angela for gave Portra too easily.

900
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've told Angela that.

901
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I believe in forgiveness, but I

902
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: believe in people proving themselves in their apologies too, because

903
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 4: words are empty when you don't back it up with

904
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: the action. So you know, that's just my thought. But again,

905
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: you know that's Angela's fight. But I was definitely hurting

906
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: for Angela, which is why I stayed even to be

907
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: there for her, and we talked almost every day after

908
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: that because I wanted to make sure mentally and emotionally

909
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: she was okay.

910
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: You developed a great friendship. Speaking of friendships with Kenya,

911
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, we saw and it's interesting because we kind of.

912
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: Saw the development of your friendship with Kenya over the

913
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: course of the seasons, and you were there obviously during

914
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: the whole debacle at the hair salon. And I want

915
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 5: to get your thoughts on this because there are rumors

916
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: out there that you allegedly are the one who gave

917
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 5: Kenya those photos a brit I'm doing.

918
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: So, I'm so very busy, aren't you. I mean, I

919
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: am dating this person and did it? And now when

920
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: did I go to Kinko's? Did I? Did I print

921
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: them in down Child? This is a lot.

922
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: I'm tired like, this is a lot of just finger

923
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: pointing and King drew the scapegoat for other people's actions.

924
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: Kenya has gone on record, which, by the way, I

925
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: miss Kenya so much because coming from last season and

926
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: in this season, she was like my only friend that

927
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: I really built a genuine friendship with that I felt

928
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 4: comfortable even to share, you know, my business with and

929
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: my vulnerabilities with. So I do miss her. She and

930
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 4: I talk often still. However, the issue is Kenya didn't

931
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: tell anybody what she was up to. No one knew

932
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: that Kenya was looking up Britt and trying to find

933
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: things wherever she found them, But no, it was not me.

934
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do that stuff.

935
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 4: I've never seen Britt in any thing online like that,

936
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 4: although I've heard about it, but no, I've heard about

937
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: her having like, you know, porn videos.

938
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 2: You know some of the girls.

939
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: I've murdered a lot of the girls and murmured things online.

940
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: And she tried to scrub the internet and clean it

941
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: up the show prior to joining the show, and then

942
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: obviously once this was yeah the vault, she tried to

943
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: scrub it.

944
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: Kenya said that on her confessional. But Kenya, this was

945
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: a one woman show.

946
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: And I really wish Kenya would have talked to me

947
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: about it because I would have strongly.

948
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: That is Makay's alarm for his medicine. He said that

949
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: on my phone.

950
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: Why that song Lizzy is it juice?

951
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: Here?

952
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Can you text? Uh?

953
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: Can you check my phone? Make sure the nanny was called?

954
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: And then also texts Miss Deborah, why Raddy?

955
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: Can I get a drink of water? Make sure Makai

956
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: texts his medicine.

957
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: For two days?

958
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: Listen, you know they fun fact fun fact, do you know,

959
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: Danny so I first seas it. You know it was prophetgate. Yes, Danny,

960
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: my assistant was, and Lizzy knows a perfect gate right

961
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: here that exposed LaToya, which, by the way out, that's

962
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 4: like one of my best friends. I'm not gonna my

963
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: kids were at our house for Easter. Yeah, Toya is.

964
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: Actually we can know we can reschedule Cadillac. I want

965
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: to make sure we have as much time we can.

966
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: It's always gonna be another Cadillac thing we can do.

967
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: We scheduling April. We could do Cadillac another day.

968
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: We could do it tomorrow if we can make it happen.

969
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to rush I know, please, I just

970
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: don't want.

971
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: To rush this.

972
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 4: We've taken two years to have this. I just yeah,

973
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: and I need to get this out.

974
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: Don't tell Dennis that.

975
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: All right, Betty works. Betty works, and now we're good.

976
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: We're good.

977
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: Am I good, Walter good. I know she did, but no,

978
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: we're not pulling me. I love her, respect her, but respectfully. Yeah, well,

979
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: so apologies, you know.

980
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: Really lazy, but thirty twenty works.

981
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Actually we can always listen.

982
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready for you. Guys are Nomory speaking. Yeah, so.

983
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: Just carried juice?

984
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: Do you think she ever sold it?

985
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: How was it?

986
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: You know?

987
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: The cat?

988
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: I right? Yes? Do you want come worry man? Listen

989
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: you're giving the actress and singer and now are you

990
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: coming from my career?

991
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: Now?

992
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: Listen you are so I'm gonna say this to you.

993
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 3: I have this is your best season. Is your best

994
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: season because you and Angela to me, came in not

995
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: not not not trying too hard, just like.

996
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: Kevin has eased in.

997
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in two different directions. What

998
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: you're giving this season is fantastic. And when you were

999
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: interrogating Britt, me, the gays, the bays, the women, the men,

1000
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: we were all like you are like an official meme

1001
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: wow right now because you were asking the right questions.

1002
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Britt in general? Do you

1003
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: think see is somebody you would be friends with?

1004
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, Britt, I just I just don't see it for

1005
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: her here. I think she's wor better maybe for like

1006
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: a rags to riches type show, but housewives, nah nah nah,

1007
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: I think that you know she.

1008
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: She just doesn't want to live in her truth.

1009
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: As we see all these allegations around her husband and

1010
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: their marriage and then her and then you know, she's

1011
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: just not that girl. You know, I think she's beautiful.

1012
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: I would never take that away from her. And I

1013
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 4: thought that we could, you know, after our sit down,

1014
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: but no, it's a no for me. I think that

1015
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: she's just not a good fit for this circle of girls.

1016
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't think she displays the integrity and the honesty

1017
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: and the truthfulness.

1018
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: And she just has a lot going on in her

1019
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: past and her and her husband her, you know what

1020
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Like they have a lot going on, and

1021
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: I just.

1022
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: Don't think that they are the most transparent. I think

1023
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: they throw a lot of stones and hide their hand.

1024
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: And she's just very argumentative, you know what I mean,

1025
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: Like she just comes across very angry. I think that

1026
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: in the Kenya situation, threatening somebody with a weapon like

1027
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: she did, it just I've never dealt with anything like that, you.

1028
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: Know, coming to work and feeling like someone is just so.

1029
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: Calm and comfortable throwing around pistol and weapons and the

1030
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 4: threats that she did. And so I feel like, although

1031
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: I've said a time time again, I don't agree with

1032
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 4: how can you handled it? I just feel like there

1033
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: needed to be a conversation, a reprimanding so to speak

1034
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: about that behavior.

1035
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 3: Would you like to see Kenya return to the show, Yes,

1036
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: so much so.

1037
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: I was inviting her the scenes with me, Like.

1038
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, this is your real life, right,

1039
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: so let's be honest, Carlos, Like, some people give me

1040
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 4: a hard time about my life, but I show my

1041
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: real life.

1042
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: Other people talk about their life, they talk about it.

1043
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 2: I literally show my life. So for me, if you're

1044
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: my friend, I'm like, why are you not coming with me?

1045
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Like?

1046
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: Come with me?

1047
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm fighting for my friend, which is why I kept

1048
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: speaking of for her in her absence. I feel like

1049
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: she hasn't deserves a place here, And I just feel

1050
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: like what happened to the days that we talk about

1051
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: it as grown women and sort out our differences, like

1052
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: why all the babysitting and the getting involved and erasing

1053
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: people from the group that really do deserve to be here.

1054
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 3: You have been on the show for like is it five?

1055
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: This is my fourth season?

1056
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: It's your fourth season. Who would you like to be

1057
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: on a cast with?

1058
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Like who is who is the drink cast that Drew

1059
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: Sodora would want to surround herself with.

1060
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's hard. Let's see. Definitely Kenya. You're

1061
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: just talking about Kenya.

1062
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: Nini because when I think of Atlanta Housewives, I think

1063
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: of Nini, and when I see Nini, I'm like Atlanta Housewives.

1064
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: So definitely Nini at this point. Remax, right, listen.

1065
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: I mean, Sharana Scharen and I've had our moments, but

1066
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: there were times where I was like, oh, hell'll just

1067
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: come back, you know, and we have text and really

1068
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: we have are texting.

1069
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: We have text. I'm not gonna text. We have a

1070
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: text and through mutual friends we have communicated.

1071
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 4: There is you know, you know, I think just with

1072
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: what we had going on at the time, it wasn't

1073
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: so far gone that we couldn't be in the space

1074
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: that we're in now. And I do respect who she

1075
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: has been on the show, who she is, and I

1076
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: miss our going back and forth.

1077
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna lie like I really you know,

1078
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: this is.

1079
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Yes seem so long ago last season's reunion because you

1080
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: and her have first chair and the back and forth

1081
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: between the two.

1082
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: Of you were so funny. I was texting like I

1083
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: am enjoying this, like it was so funny to me.

1084
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: So the fact that you can even say, like, look,

1085
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: we had our issues, but what I look back on,

1086
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: like what's great for the show, Like Charree's.

1087
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: Great for the show.

1088
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shari and I rode next to each other to

1089
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: reunion and I'm sitting here helping her with Instagram social media.

1090
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: And we're talking and then we get a reunion.

1091
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, here we go.

1092
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1093
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: It has definitely been that that type of friendship for us.

1094
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, we text.

1095
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: I just worked with Candy and Todd. Yes, and Candy

1096
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: and I have had a clearing and so I would

1097
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: say Candy for sure.

1098
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: Angela of course. Yeah, I think that about And I

1099
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: love Shemiah. You know, Shemiah, you know you are as

1100
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: a hospital a friend, as a friend.

1101
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: Well you want Shamia to be a friend.

1102
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, if Shemiah could show us

1103
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: her full like I said, I have given you all

1104
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: my husband and my strange husband, and so I just

1105
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 4: feel like that's important for us to really get a

1106
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: glimpse to her as a wife too, you know, as

1107
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: a housewife.

1108
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: We want to see that. I think that's important.

1109
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so listen, you have been same as for

1110
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: so many years although you're legally married, you are going

1111
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: through a divorce.

1112
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: Are you dating anybody right now?

1113
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 5: Is there any of your old celebrity men that you

1114
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: would like to so, you know, Cirkle block, Well.

1115
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, spend the block.

1116
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 5: You have had a lot of attractive celebrity men on

1117
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 5: your roster.

1118
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: Really, yes, I know who was the most famous guy

1119
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: you dated? Oh lord, I got.

1120
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: Destroyed for one that I sort of kind of didn't mention.

1121
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh lord, we want to dig that back up.

1122
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: I mean, at the time, listen, he was not married,

1123
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: he was not dating.

1124
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 4: Okay, this was when we were very young, but the

1125
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: king of the NBA was someone and you can dig

1126
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: up newspaper clippings and people wrote about us.

1127
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: My sister went online to set the record straight. You

1128
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: know that is truth.

1129
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 4: But I did also date young Bird at the time

1130
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: when he was younger. Now hit Maka and we are

1131
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: still friends.

1132
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: I can say that I dated Michael B. Jordan.

1133
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: I never said that out loud publicly with people that

1134
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: know no and biceps. Hello, listen, I'm just gonna say,

1135
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm Carlowska friend.

1136
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: Let's said, and that's the truth. He was on well,

1137
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: he asked me to be his date to the NAACP Awards.

1138
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 4: And this is when he was on the soap opera

1139
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: he was on and yeah, like my sister Allison, he

1140
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: would come over and she would cook.

1141
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: For him and we went out.

1142
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: I met his mom and you know, it was great, Like, yes,

1143
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: that that is my past as you would say were

1144
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like I said,

1145
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: like my parents were married for sixty years, I wanted

1146
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: someone that I felt compatible with outside of the names

1147
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: and who they were. I was like, I want what

1148
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: I see my parents having. I want that best friend.

1149
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: I want that person I'm attracted to as well as

1150
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 4: I feel like we can build something together.

1151
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, but dating, I've went on a

1152
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: couple of dates. Not gonna act like I haven't gone

1153
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: a couple of dates.

1154
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 3: Celebrity man you know, owners of establishments.

1155
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: Wow, really you really do?

1156
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: Knowing I'm a journalist, yes, yes.

1157
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: I think all the above. Okay, yeah, all the above.

1158
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 4: It's been you know, just a quick little date and

1159
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: just like okay, but before I find myself going too far,

1160
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, I gotta wrap this up because this one

1161
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 4: he won't let me be great now he hosted women

1162
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: on his social media and.

1163
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: Leaves for weeks and weekends at a time, comes home.

1164
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: But for me, I feel like, until I wrap this up,

1165
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: it's just more messy, you know, and I don't feel

1166
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: like I can be as available right now.

1167
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: What do you think it's been cute?

1168
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 3: Listen? I will say this.

1169
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 5: Dating when you're either close to forty or after forty

1170
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 5: in this day and age, it's listen. It's a little difficult,

1171
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 5: but I will say, I will say, there's some gems

1172
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 5: out there, but you gotta you gotta listen.

1173
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: My advice to you is to explore other areas. You

1174
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1175
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: I will say that for you, I got you, I follow, Okay,

1176
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: you follow, definitely.

1177
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: It I hed.

1178
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: I've never tried, but I don't know. Let's diversify, hadn't

1179
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: he like your.

1180
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 5: Portfolio, diversify your portfolio of income of you know, incoming

1181
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: manify your portfolio?

1182
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: Well, thank you?

1183
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: Is that gonna be joining a single?

1184
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: So yeah?

1185
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm more of an organic girly, like

1186
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: if it happened and we need and we see and

1187
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: we vibe at this point in our lives, it has

1188
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: to be a natural thing. For me, I don't really

1189
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: like the like flying dates and the setups. I'm like,

1190
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: if it happens, it happens. And I think right now,

1191
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 4: honestly with everything, y'all see that I'm dealing with this,

1192
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 4: like I don't really have the capacity to take anyone

1193
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: serious right now, and I really need to get back

1194
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 4: to a place where I trust again because being married

1195
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: for ten years and having who you think is your

1196
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 4: person that you trust and to realize you.

1197
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: That was Ops.

1198
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 4: Basically I look at him, it's almost the Ops. Now,

1199
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: how do I trust somebody again, you know, in that way.

1200
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: So I'm very guarded, very very guarded.

1201
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 5: Your album is so good, and I feel like you

1202
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 5: and co Cooke Jones are like bringing R and B back,

1203
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 5: you know, in this, in this in its natural form.

1204
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: Listen.

1205
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 5: I listen to it a lot, and you, first of

1206
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 5: all listen. I feel like, the world please.

1207
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: Buy this album, stream it whatever.

1208
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: But you can sing, you are a singer, but talk

1209
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: to me about the album because if people listen to

1210
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 1: or when people listen to her rather, you do share

1211
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot about what you're going through.

1212
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: But it's such a personal.

1213
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: Album that I really want the world to really listen

1214
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: to it to understand more about who drew sidor Ismen.

1215
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so talk to me about about this album and

1216
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 3: why people should cop it.

1217
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: This album, like I.

1218
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: Said, it is bigger than me. Not only will you

1219
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: listen to this album, but you will feel this album.

1220
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: It is a journey. So people say, well, what's your

1221
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: favorite record?

1222
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 4: You know, and I'm like, for me, you can't take

1223
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: one record because when you take out one record, it

1224
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: doesn't tell the full story from where I was when

1225
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 4: I recorded my first record, which was better on my

1226
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: own in this studio, and just the progression of how

1227
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 4: I felt.

1228
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: You can literally feel the heartbreak. You can feel the

1229
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: days that I was like could I rekindle this with

1230
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: my husband?

1231
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: You know?

1232
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 4: You feel the days where I was like everybody f

1233
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 4: him and I'm outside. You know, you feel the journey

1234
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 4: of healing. And that's really what it was. People say

1235
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 4: why didnnis?

1236
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why not?

1237
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: You know, I got the music sent to my management,

1238
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 4: my management, and it was the music that got us

1239
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 4: to this point. It wasn't about the person. You know,

1240
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 4: you never know who the vehicle's gonna be. And listen,

1241
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 4: Vincent Herbert signed me to death.

1242
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: Jam.

1243
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: I was sign a slipping slide, I.

1244
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: Was signed a babyface. I mean I worked with so

1245
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 4: many amazing producers.

1246
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: And yet nothing ever came out.

1247
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1248
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 4: When people say music is powerful, music is powerful. So

1249
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 4: this wasn't about the perfect situation of the perfect person.

1250
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: It was about the music that was coming in my

1251
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: inbox that I felt like was my therapy. It was

1252
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: speaking to my heart and my spirit, and it was

1253
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: what I needed in that season to get out to

1254
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 4: help me to get to this place that you said

1255
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 4: you see as freedom as a piece that I can

1256
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: sit in because keeping that internalized it wasn't doing nothing

1257
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: for me. It really wasn't, and I can admit that

1258
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: at now there was things that I wasn't able to

1259
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: talk about or express, and I felt like with this album,

1260
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 4: I said everything I needed to say, from the good,

1261
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 4: the bad, the ugly, the bloodswey and tears.

1262
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: I literally like cried on this album.

1263
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like it's connecting in a

1264
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 4: way that's different from anything else I've done.

1265
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: And talk to me about that.

1266
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: Boo God is good, Like I really I gotta.

1267
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 4: Give it to him because the response obviously coming out

1268
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 4: debuting number four on the charts.

1269
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: I'm almost Golden streams A graduations generally aw thousand away.

1270
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: No, that's made during this climate.

1271
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: It is amazing to get a plaque, you know, I'll.

1272
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 4: Give my gold plaque, but the incoming calls that are

1273
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 4: coming from major labels. So we got offers to go

1274
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: out on tour, and now we have locked in a

1275
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: tour this year literally this summer, this summerfall.

1276
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: I'll be on tour spring summer, Like I said, no spring,

1277
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: summer fall. Huh no, no, no, honey, small priet something.

1278
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: More than less.

1279
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: Ten city tour. Yeah.

1280
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, you're doing good. I mean listen, the song

1281
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: is the song? S excuse me, mar great, the album's great.

1282
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: You're going on tour. Yeah, you're back your acting bag.

1283
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: I want to see more of you doing that to you.

1284
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: You've been great on Lifetime stuff that I've watched, and

1285
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: you have fans in that industry too, and then you're

1286
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: on a Listen, this season of The Real House Spots

1287
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: of Atlanta is so good, and you are on the

1288
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: most talked about reality show that's airing right now, and

1289
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: you have a lot going on. We are in the

1290
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: middle of the rest of the season padres Co, I'm back. Yes,

1291
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Phage's return to the show.

1292
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: You know, Phaedra is an og, so I always got

1293
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 4: to respect an og. That's just how I operate. However,

1294
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 4: I know she didn't do a lot on marriage to medicine,

1295
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: and then she came on our show pretty much at

1296
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 4: the end.

1297
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that we'll see her next year.

1298
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: What did she do when she came back, Well, she.

1299
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: Was trying to get to know everybody, so she gave

1300
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: us faces, and she gave a lot of faces, you know,

1301
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:42,879
Speaker 4: and some laughs.

1302
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I can't say anything bad per se.

1303
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: You know, I can't say anything bad. I can't. And

1304
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: we were pretty much done, you know what I mean.

1305
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: The work was done. So we'll see. We'll see season seventeen,

1306
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: sin Store.

1307
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 3: You are, you are something else.

1308
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Listen, ladies, jump tom Gays and days, give it up

1309
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: for the beautiful.

1310
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: This has been worth it. The two years has been

1311
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 3: worth it. I listen. I am so proud of you.

1312
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: I love you, and you listen, keep doing what you're doing,

1313
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing. I can't wait to see

1314
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: what you're going to bring at this upcoming reunion in

1315
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 1: season seventeenth.

1316
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: Love you, love you so much. Oh God, it's been

1317
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: so good.

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