WEBVTT - Chase Elliott Talks Making The Move From #24 To #9 + The NASCAR Rule He Would Change | Racin' 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.680 Hey, I feel like that went good. Welcome to another 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.639 episode of Racing with the Boys. We have a massive 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.880 guest on this week. Chase Elliott rated the most popular driver. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.560 I don't know how many years, I believe it was eight, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.440 an absolute legend in the game. Before we get into 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.199 this interview, we are brought to you by and presented by, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.479 Fueled by the America's number one sportsbook, FanDuel Boys. This weekend, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.800 we're headed to one of the coolest stops on the 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.760 NASCAR calendar, North Wilkesboro Speedway. 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Now, you did 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.320 an interview not so long ago where a guy referred 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.440 to them as Chase sexuals. When you sat back stoically, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.040 and you're like, well, I don't know anything about that. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.760 Have you done any investigative reporting on why your fans 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.920 are called Chase sexuals? 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.679 The only the only information I have on this is 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.880 what I've been told, and honestly, It's kind of more 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.680 fun that way, because I don't know how much I 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.839 want to know about this. Yeah, so I'm I'm good. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.360 I'm good with it. They've been good to me, But 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.520 I don't know what they're called. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.880 I'll say this about you, Chase. We've only been on 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.400 here for a couple of minutes. You've got a nice 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.360 bear strong, jawnline, handsome boy. You're a little you seem 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.800 a little more like an observant type of cat. And 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.680 I think that's why I'm starting to figure out why 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.000 they're calling them Chase sexuals. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:45.280 Because they're into them. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.280 Yeah, because they're into them. Yeah, they's Yeah, it could be. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.359 I know, having somebody like Chase Elliott on anybody that's 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.000 come on the bus, whether it's William Byron, Kyle Larson, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.080 Ryan Blaney, everybody said Chase Elliott, it's going to be 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.800 interesting to see if we can get much out of him, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.680 because apparently you're you're you keep to yourself. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.400 Man. I don't know why they give me such a 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.079 hard time, especially Ryan, Like we're we're pretty good friends. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.679 So I don't know. I don't feel like I'm not complex. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:17.240 I don't know why this is being assumed towards me. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:22.080 You've been voted the most popular NASCAR driver for eight years, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.920 but you also seen to be be voted the most 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.959 private guy in Nascar. What what keeps you so private 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.679 in wanting to keep whatever the like whatever the things 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.040 you do in private away from the public, not whether 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:44.680 it's personality, like yeah, private popular, Why are you the 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.320 most private guy in Nascar as well? 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.480 I mean, I wouldn't say I'm necessarily the most private. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.960 I just, uh, I don't know. It's not that I'm 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.680 like out trying to be super private. I'm just also 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.840 not like putting everything I do on blast, like I 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.760 guess that's probably more of my route. Like I'm just 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.320 not uh, I don't know, Like I just don't care 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.640 to let the world know my every move as far 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.080 as like, you know, I feel like some people wake 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.040 up in the morning they post that I'm going to 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.279 get breakfast or I'm going here. You know, my coffee 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.480 this morning was incredible or whatever it was. But I 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.560 don't know, I just yeah, like, I you know, I 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.320 have a good group of friends around home, and I 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:33.200 feel like my circle is pretty small in general. But uh, yeah, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.920 I wouldn't say I'm like super shy per se. But 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.360 I just uh yeah, I just choose not to put 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.320 everything I do on on blast out there. I guess 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.640 it's not like I'm trying to be any certain way. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.120 It's just a little bit of how I am. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.400 I suppose you'll just do your thing, just drive fast 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.640 the only thing he can be with. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.120 The boys, Yeah, I would. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.320 Can we start with some light questions? 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.520 Yeah, let's start with some fun ones. Let's let's let 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.560 me ask you a question. Well, if you had to say, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.360 like your favorite band of all time, what would it be? 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.800 Favorite band that's fun music? 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.800 I'm not like I I enjoy music, Yeah, don't get 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.280 me wrong. But as far as like naming my favorite 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.640 band of all time, like I don't, I don't know, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.120 I don't really have Let's just say, yeah, there we go. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.240 We'll say CDC, I'll go Chase, I'll go Blake. What 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.000 Edie Too is my favorite band? What is your If 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.120 you're putting on a song and you're like, I need 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.160 to get the juices flowing this morning, I'm not gonna 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.719 post about it, but I'm still gonna enjoy this in 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.840 my inner circle. What song are you putting on? 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.719 Man? A song in particular is tough. I mean, Blank one, 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.240 Eddie two is a strong choice. I'm not gonna lie, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:45.400 all right. I love that like punk rock, early two thousands, Blake. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.159 On, Eddie two, pop punk bands, you're into it, early 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.040 two thousands. Give me a barrage of bands you like 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:51.480 to listen to. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:57.400 I'll wait ten seconds, waiting ten Yeah, I mean I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.640 love that era of music for sure. I always you know, 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:05.080 like the Green Day vibe back then, I thought it 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.400 was incredible. It's kind of a shame. Like Ryan and 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.479 I actually talked about this not too long ago about 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.080 how no one has really or maybe it just hasn't 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.560 got popular, but no one has really tried to bring 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.719 that back like all you. I mean, you have like 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.760 some of those older bands that are trying to stay around, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.800 but you haven't really seen a new rendition of that. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.080 So I would love to see it. But I would 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.840 say nowadays, I'm probably more of a country guy. Love 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.640 Eric Church. Been a big fan of his for a 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.240 long time. Yeah, he's uh, he's pretty tough to beat, 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.400 I feel like in the music industry. And then also 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.520 kind of more on the up and coming side, Musket One, Bloodline, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:49.600 Oh yeah, Crew, Yeah, they yeah, they probably Yeah, I 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.960 would say Charlie, I could see him. I could see 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.400 him being on board. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.080 If you had, like how baseball players have like walk 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.919 up songs, w W, they have walkout songs. If you 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.839 I had one song and you were driving out to it, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:02.440 what would it be? 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.320 Oh? Man, I would say, let's say holding my own 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.159 Eric Church. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.600 Oh okay, that's a good pull. I would have said 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.080 The Outsiders by Eric Church. That to me is a 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.400 song that just kind of in twenty sixteen, that was 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.040 our go out song as an offensive line when we 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.080 go out for warm ups, and then you know, it 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.000 started going there the encraft where the other ones and 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.840 has it started getting going a little bit? So yeah, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.800 walk out song ec he rips Muscatine bloodline they also 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.800 go and I want to get back to it. Feels 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.080 like there's not a lot of bands out there that 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.600 are doing that old type of genre anymore. I have 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:40.720 you doven into Machine Gun, Kelly, Suaco, those types of guys, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.560 because like Machine Gun Kelly, he was doing rap for 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.640 a little bit and he's come up with three albums 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.320 in that pop punk kind of era, and man, what 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.040 is it? Tickets to My Downfall is the first album 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.480 he came out. Think it was like twenty twenty, the 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.160 same year you want a cup series and Buddy, I'm 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.720 telling you, if you're into that music, you will get goosebumps. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.360 Then you put on the first track of that of 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:02.800 that album, it's unbelievable. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.960 Yeah, listen, I am also not like it's my way 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.840 the highway on the music thing. I'm open. I'm open. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.120 I'm open to ideas. I'm open to new music. So 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:17.960 I'll give it a I'll give it a run. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.600 How about this, like question Chase, what's a fast food 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.520 order that you would die on a hill for, whether 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.240 or not people would trash it or not. What's the 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.080 go to fast food order for you? 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:38.240 Man? I go to food? Man I, it's really hard 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:43.120 to go wrong with it. M well, trying to think here. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.719 I mean Chick fil a, like if I don't care 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.839 if you're having a good day or a bad day, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:50.960 Like the Lord's Chicken. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:56.679 Is is tough beat the Lord's Chicken? The Lords do 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:57.319 they have so. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.959 Many sauces anything? Anything? 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.240 Yeah, the waffle fries, the milkshakes. I'm a big ice 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.480 cream guy. The milkshakes just go out of hand for me. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.800 I absolutely love them. I'm a big milkshake. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.439 He's not wrong either, because the Chick fil A menu 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.360 it always is like it's not like I do have 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.240 like a go to with a spicy chicken sandwich. But 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.079 no matter what, anytime I hit the drive through on 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.040 jet Chick fil A, I almost don't know what I 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.600 want it first, whether it be the chicken nuggets and. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.240 Anything you do, the sandwich, anything you do get, it's like, yeah, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.520 it's a good order. Do you want You guys got 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.640 a lot of good son take five of each through 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.199 them in the bag? You let meet a sever bag 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.319 of sauces. What's your stance on ranch versus blue cheese? 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.840 Just never know? Oh, blue cheese is just simply not 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.280 an option. I just if you like blue cheese, I 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:46.679 worry about you. I really do. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.320 Chase, let me tell you somebody so far we could 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.200 listen to music together and it sounds like we could 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.320 dip some sauces together, because to me, like, if blue 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.640 cheese was a human being, I'm committing first degree if 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.560 you know what I mean. I think blue cheese is one. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.640 Of the most things all the time full support. Yeah 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.560 you yeah, you'd be here like it's on. I find 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.680 it to be comical, like when you're you know, you 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.719 go somewhere and you get wings and they're like ranch 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:13.600 or blue cheese. I'm like a man, like, why why 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:14.640 are you asking me this? 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.120 Yeah, like, are you trying to think your culture? Because 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.600 you have moldy cheese in my dipping sauce. That's disgusting. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.560 Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'm not I'm not 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.800 grasped that, but I'm definitely a ranch guy all the way. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.880 Then you can't help but to throw a little judgment 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.520 at somebody that does order blue cheese. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.600 Yeah, and then you go up to Buffalo and they 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.480 all will die on the hill of blue cheese is 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.680 the number one thing of all time. And you're like 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:37.800 these people just don't know. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:38.760 And they think they're better. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.200 Really yeah, oh dude. You go up to like Rochester. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.080 We were in Rochester for the Bills Trading Camp last year, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.320 and you go up there and it's like wings, that's 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.559 like their thing. They made it popular. And then they 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.520 it's like you if you ask for a ranch at 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.720 the restaurant, they're kind of like you're like going to 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.280 a nice steakhouse and asking for like a dipping sauce like, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.800 oh well this this state doesn't need it. It's like no, no, no, no, no, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.400 give me the sauce, give me the bernie, give me 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.959 the peppercorn, all the stuff. I want, all the sauces 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.719 with my steak. Got a big sauce guy? 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.080 What was it like interesting getting into a little I've 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.560 never been to a place that people preferred that, So 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.520 that's good to know. And I like, you know, I 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.439 like pulling for the bills, you know, like I don't 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.080 they seem like a good crew. So yeah, I'm not sure. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:20.600 I questioned that a little bit. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.760 You're not like pulling for the bill. I don't know 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:23.200 if I would. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.640 You're not gonna find a more rabid fan base of 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:32.000 blue collar individuals. And in Buffalo, those people, the tailgating, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.120 the mustard, the way they get after a week in 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.520 and week out, they're number one. I saw you're a 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.360 big Georgia fan just in sports in general, big Georgia 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.640 bulldog guy. What about the NFL? Like, are you a 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.079 NFL at all? Are you mostly college sports? 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.720 I would say I probably like from a football side, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.440 I definitely am probably bigger into the college stuff, but 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.640 I love watching it all. I mean, I'm I'm a 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.760 big sports fan in general. I don't I've never really 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.079 had a like a a NFL team. I've always kind 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.920 of been one of the guys that you kind of 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.560 and I guess the NIL thing has probably changed this 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.720 sum but used to it was like, man, you know, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.480 Matt Stafford spent four years at Georgia and and you 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.720 know you had all these different players whoever, it was 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.679 like name your favorite player from your favorite school and 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.439 they go off and they play in the NFL. You 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.600 kind of I don't know, I kind of gravitate to 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.079 watching certain players that I enjoy watching in college on 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:31.559 on Sundays. But I don't have a like one team 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 where I'm like, man, this is this is my crew, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.680 which maybe I should pick one, but I don't know. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.160 I kind of become I just kind of become a 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.000 fan of of certain guys and I like to see 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.800 him do well. And they might you know, might be 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.240 a few different teams. But I love watching. I mean 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.520 there's especially like for us, like you know, we're in 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.320 the bit, we're busy obviously on Sundays, but like those 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.960 Monday night games and Thursday night games. Yeah, I love, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.320 love sitting down and watching, and I pretty much watch 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.760 whoever like I don't, I don't really who's playing. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.880 Did you think it was crazy being a Georgia fan 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.960 after you guys whooped Alabama's ass in the SEC championship game, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.520 do you feel like they should have got knocked out 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.120 of the playoffs? 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.000 Uh? Man, I I don't know. I feel like Georgia 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.520 has been on both sides of that fence before. I 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.800 feel like, you know, there's been years where they've gotten 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.400 you gotten through, So I don't know. I don't know 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.600 enough about all how the politics of the behind the 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.720 scenes of that works. But as a bias Georgia fan, yes, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.280 I think they should always get in every year, no 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.800 question whether whether they won all the games or one two. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:38.760 I think they should get in. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.920 Yeah, you said you you like to root for certain individuals, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.040 not just specific teams. Who is your favorite player of 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.199 all time? Like you're you your biggest fantom. You brought 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.520 up Matthew Stafford. He obviously won a MVP last year 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.319 went to Georgia. I can see that being easy down 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.440 the middle strike for you. But is there anybody else 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.720 you're like? I love watching this guy play. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.960 Ball, Dude, right now, it's been Josh Allen. I just 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.160 that guy, uh, back on the Bills, back on the Bills. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.560 I know he loves he loves the Blue. I don't 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.480 I don't want this to be like confused. I'm not 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.360 a diehard Bills fan, but I do love watching Josh 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.320 Allen play football. I think he is uh, you know, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.840 he's just an electric player. I mean, he lays it 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.640 out there. He is obviously, he's a big dude. He 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.200 takes some tough hits, takes some big runs. Like just 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.280 he's willing to He's willing to lay it out there, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.920 and it's it's fun to watch. So I think he's 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.360 been the most entertaining. And also to like his story 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.880 of not having gotten over the hump yet, I think 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.840 makes it really, like really easy to pull for him. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.360 You know, I just I don't know. I just I'd 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.120 love to see him get one. And I thought last 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.160 year was it. I had a I had a pretty 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.240 strong feeling that that was their year. But yeah, I'd 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.600 love to see him him get it done before he uh, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:53.520 before he hangs it up. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.520 How mad were you when he fumbled before halftime against 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.120 the Broncos. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.280 I felt the. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.840 Same way like they it was. It felt like that 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.000 that could have been. You know, Josh All He's obviously 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.760 got to put the cape on at times, but yeah, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.400 the couple turnovers. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.840 A couple turnovers are tough. They were my preseason team 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.440 last year to go to the Super Bowl. Get over 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.040 the hump because I'm the same way as you, like 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.200 Josh friend of the show. Great guy. You see how 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.280 much talent he has, and you just want like the 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.680 Bills being like the team that they go four years 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.040 in a row in the early late nineties, early two thousand, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.200 early where they go for Super Bowl straight and can't 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.560 get over the hump of getting one, and that fan base, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.720 it's like they those people, those people deserve one. They 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.560 deserve to grab it. Did you you grew up obviously 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.200 your dad was one of the most beloved racers of 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.680 all time in NASCAR. Where did you guys watch football 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.200 together as well? Was he a big football fan? 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.080 He really isn't, and he wasn't really as I was 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.160 growing up. I think I kind of was the sports 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.240 fan in the house. So he watched football, but it 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.320 was because I wanted to watch it. I don't think 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.800 as much because he you know, he wanted to watch 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.040 growing up, but he became a fan to you know, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.360 watching guys and like when I was a kid and 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.840 still living at home, like you know, that was the 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.280 Tom Brady era, you know, so it was really easy 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.480 to really you know he I think he liked him, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.320 like watching him play, you know, through that time, but 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.320 he was never yeah, never super into it. But I 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.600 appreciate him toughing it out and watching it because I did. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.800 I definitely got the sportsbug at a pretty young age. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.280 What do you think your dad was most annoyed with 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.080 you on growing up? 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.720 Oh? Lord, man, I don't know what was he not 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.960 annoyed with me on I feel like more than anything, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:50.120 but I think, uh, goodness, that's a really tough one. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:57.520 I think just in general, you know, heh his his 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.760 upbringing and and kind of the past that they that 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:05.040 they took was you know, really different than than mine. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:11.359 And you know, he just had and I think early on, uh, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.520 he taught me some really valuable lessons just about the 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.800 race and thing and and how serious it was. And 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.840 I probably get some of that from him, Like I do, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.000 I take it serious, you know, and and it's uh also, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.520 I mean, look, I try to have fun too. But 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.760 he he definitely instilled early to hey, look, if you're 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.280 going to do this like, we're going to do it 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.280 right and and this is gonna be uh, you know, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.920 it's not all fun and games. There's there's a time 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.160 and a place for it. But I think I think 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.080 I was probably on the, you know, too much of 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.280 the fun side early on, and and that probably didn't 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.280 set well. So he, you know, in the right way, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.119 you know, in the right way definitely taught me that 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.399 lesson early and really ever since then. I can remember 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.639 some specific conversations where you know, it was brought up 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.560 and then from there it was you know, hey, I 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.680 get it, and I respected it and respected him enough 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.840 to you know, want to you know, try and do 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.280 things the way that he wanted him done. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.040 Was What was it like growing up with him as 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.480 a father. We had Dale Earnhardt Junior on the show 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.280 multiple times, and one story told about his dad how 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.159 his dad was extremely strict. He was obviously nicknamed the 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.240 enforcer for a reason in NASCAR, Butty was that way 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.880 at home as well. Intimidator excuse me. He came home 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.159 one time after doing something wrong and his dad essentially 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.159 hit the belt, like started to unloosen the belt and 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.920 Dale ripped it out and head behind like a bail 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.840 of hay until nightfall took place, and he's like, I think, 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.480 now that's been hours. I kind of cus back into 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.800 the house and everything ended up being okay. But he 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.800 was talking about how strict he was and how it 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.520 had to be done a certain way. What was your 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:51.560 dad like growing up? 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.680 Similar in a lot of ways. I mean I I did. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.840 I got the belt when I was young too, so 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.320 I definitely understand that. I definitely have my share of 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.760 trying to get away from that too, like everyone. I 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.560 don't know how much nowadays, but probably you guys probably 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.520 had to had to had to do some run on 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.920 that front to take the type. Yeah, like you were, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.840 you were going to get your ass for sure if 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:23.359 you did something wrong. So I very similar, you know, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.320 I think from from the outside, Dad probably had a 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.280 little different complexion just from you know that you just 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.880 don't know, right, like you don't know people super well 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.199 unless you unless you know him, and so yeah he was. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.760 He was tricked in a lot of ways. But what 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.840 was really cool for me was as I got older, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.240 I felt, you know, especially as I started racing more 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.560 and kind of started doing the NASCAR thing and was 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.320 taking some of those bigger steps. I just felt like 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.760 he respected me a lot and he trusted me a 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.000 lot too at the same time. And even though there 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.720 were days that you know, like I remember there was 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.240 a race I I was racing for the lead at 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.840 at Bristol and ended up crashing and and you know, 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.720 messed it up for a few of us there. But 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.520 you know, he just kind of looked at me on 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.159 the ride home and he was like, you have to 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.160 kind of know him, but he not a word other 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.639 than I don't think I would have done that. That 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.639 was it, and that was it. It was just I 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:27.080 don't think I would have done that, and I don't know, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.639 I just felt like he he he grew to have 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.840 a lot of respect for me and how I raced, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.840 and if there were ever days that he might have 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.639 gone about something different, it was typically a you know, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.359 a sly comment like that. Yeah, it got the message across, right, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.560 and it made me think twice about something like that 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.000 in the future. And those are all all good lessons. 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.760 But I just appreciate the way he you know, he's 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.640 shown me respect as I've gotten older and and he's 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.680 kind of let me do my thing my way a 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.160 little bit, you know, which I think is cool. 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.280 Well, I was gonna. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:58.720 Say, when you look back at some of the tough 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.399 moments you had with the whole all, there's dynamic. What 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.280 is something that you appreciate now that you didn't appreciate 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:05.240 back then growing up? 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:12.639 Man so much? I mean, I you know, especially you know, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.440 I have buddies that have kids now and you kind 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.359 of see them parenting, and I think about my dad 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.320 and kind of the way he parented me through some 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.760 of those through some of those situations. So I don't know. 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.399 I think your perspective on all of that stuff changes 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.080 a lot as you get older, and and just the 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.439 different variations of ways parents like connect with their kids, 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:41.080 or you know, discipline their kids, or try and teach lessons. 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.320 So I don't know, that's that's tough to pick one thing, 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:52.399 but my perspective has changed so much. I I I 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.080 don't know about one particular thing, I guess is the 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.840 short answer. But I definitely respect kind of how he 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.040 went about my childhood and me growing up, just because 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.480 again there was discipline and there were things that he 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.840 wanted to make sure his point got across and they 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.720 were definitely understood, but there was also a lot of 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.560 respect given too, and I just felt like that it 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.200 was always an option for me to not race or 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.000 do whatever I want to do. There was never any 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.119 pressure there. And you know, looking back on that, I 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:24.920 really appreciate it because I think it would be really 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.440 easy for a parent to have a lot of success 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.960 and a sport and like, you know, just drill that 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.600 in you and not really give you an option, and 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.879 that wasn't the case at offer him. So I always 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:38.920 thought that was really cool. 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.359 That is a very unique perspective to have because having 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.920 kids now, for me, the only thing I knew growing 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.360 up was sports, Like you play sports throughout the year, 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.040 you do it. So none of my kids have a 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:49.879 nine year old and as soon to be six year old, 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.200 and I'm like, I'm giving them every chance to love sports. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.959 But my nine year old's more like wants to go 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.639 dance with the Dandy Lions and do her thing. So 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.200 that's like hard for me to have to be like, well, 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.720 the only thing I know sports, so usually go play sports. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.879 And so we've had a couple back and forth on 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.159 that but overall, you have to let your kid be 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:10.359 your kid. You mentioned your dad grew to respect you 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.960 as a racer. You felt though he respect good respect 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.320 you as a racer. Was there a moment for you 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.119 after a race, during a race, maybe something happened the 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.560 way you handled that that adversity that your dad might 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:22.719 have said something to you and be like, you know what, 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.720 I feel like he's actually starting to respect me in 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.440 the lane he was so successful at. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:32.080 Yeah, it's a really good question. Yes, the there's a 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.760 big short track race in the Southeast. It's called the 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:39.160 Snowball Derby. It's down in Pennsacoha, Florida. It's every December, 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.120 and that's kind of the biggest asphalt short track race 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.240 in the country. People travel, you know, all across the 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.840 United States for that race, and you know that was 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.800 you know, really that through those years that I was 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.480 going down there were some of the most influential of 0:23:55.880 --> 0:24:00.119 my whole career. Truthfully, without the success of some of 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:01.960 those seasons and some of those years, I don't really 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:03.879 know that I would have had the opportunities later on 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.119 down the road. But long story short, we were fortunate 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.760 enough to win that race, and you know, I just 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:15.480 I remember him coming on the radio there after the race, 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.199 and I can't remember the exact words, but you know, 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.800 just basically saying, man, you need a damn good job today, 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.919 and and it was just like I was kind of 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:30.080 wild at the just the way he said it. You know, 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.360 things just mean a certain way at certain times, and 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.000 that specific time, I was like, man, you know, I 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.000 I feel like I really, you know, I really made 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:42.399 him proud today and winning that race and kind of 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.000 the way the way we navigated the whole weekend, it 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.000 was just all a really really good weekend for us, 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.680 and I felt like I felt like I earned a 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.480 lot of his respect throughout the course of not maybe 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.600 not necessarily just that day, but kind of a few 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.520 of those years put together of just putting my head 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.600 down saying, hey, look I'm gonna take this serious. This 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.080 is what I want to do. I want to show 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.159 you this is what I want to do. And you know, 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.600 obviously he you know, he was a big supporter and 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.320 all that, and I remember kind of getting through with 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.320 that one and thinking, man, you know, I feel like 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.560 we you know, we we we made him proud. And 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.240 that was really really a cool moment for me, that's. 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:19.919 A badass story. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.000 It is I want while while you're like telling that story, 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.119 you're like showing, hey, I want to do this, this 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.320 is what I want to do. Was there ever a 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.560 point in your life you're like, oh, I don't want 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.800 to do NASCAR, Maybe I want to do something else instead, 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.520 or was it always kind of like your dad questioning, 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.000 but you'd be like, no, no, no, I want to do this, 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:35.760 Like how do I show you? 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:37.720 And even just to build on that too, like being 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.919 featured in something like Where Will They Be? When you 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:44.160 were one of fourteen youth Prodigies on Sports Illustrated, being 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.000 that young being like, man, is this the career I 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:47.960 am going to go after? 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.840 Yeah, you know, I fortunately for me, And again it 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.680 wasn't like it wasn't like I was. It was never 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.439 forced on me. You know, I had such a unique 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.439 perspective of race, and you know, I think racing in 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:07.879 general gets some probably an incorrect vibe. You know a 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.879 lot of people go to races to watch RECs, and 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.600 they go to races to you know, if we get 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.640 in a fight or the chaos or the crashing or 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.560 you know whatever. But I had such a unique perspective 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.040 growing up of kind of what went on behind the scenes, 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.840 and you know, the amount of work and effort and time, 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.680 and how much of a team sport it was, and 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.000 just all the men and women that were behind the 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.560 scenes to make it happen. But then also beyond that, 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.040 the craft of driving that made a guy go from 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.040 being good to being great, and all the details that 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.520 are behind that and just the small little things behind 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.720 the wheel that we're looking for on a weekly basis 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.960 to be a little better than the next guy. And 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.480 I fell in love with that, you know that that 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.040 was what I fell in love with, was just all 0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.679 that little stuff and the little thing that you know, 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.560 made made people great, you know, throughout those years of 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.000 just being a fan and watching and being a kid 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.960 and just taking it all in. But you know, of course, 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.159 when when you're you know, especially back then, I mean 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.200 NASCAR was rocking and rolling through the early two thousands, 0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.879 and you know, my dad was a part of the show. 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.040 Like what what kid would not want to go and 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.480 do that when you are sitting there, you know, going 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.400 to the race at Bristol in the fall and it's 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.120 a packed house of one hundred and however many thousand 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.639 people and your dad is a part of this event, 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.480 right like I just I mean I was. My jaw 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.040 was on the floor constantly every week as a six 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:44.880 seven eight year old kid. And so of course that 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.679 makes you want to do it, and at least you know, 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.520 your interest level is super high. And then you get 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.600 older and you start kind of going down the path 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.640 of doing it. And to me, that was really when 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.320 the question you had to answer it for yourself, Do 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.040 I really want to do this? Am I good enough 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.560 to do this? Do I do I actually have a shot? 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:08.280 And you know, fortunately the you know, missing things at school, 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.080 missing you know, events with my buddies or friends going 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.320 off to college and you're not going and you know, 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.440 wanting to hang out with them and all those little 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.160 things that you kind of miss out on. Over the years, 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.400 I think you kind of come to a crossroads of like, man, 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.560 you know, am I okay with missing all these things? 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.879 Do I want to go and do this? And and 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.639 for me, the answer was always it just continued to 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.160 be yes, like, yes, I still want to do this, Yes, 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.080 I still want to pursue this dream. No, I'm not 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.960 tired of it. I think I'm good enough to do it. 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:44.320 And the opportunities, and fortunately enough success came along with 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.560 that that you know it, it worked out and the 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.640 stars lined and you know, Rick got involved and and 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.880 wanted to help for some reason back then. I still 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.800 haven't figured that out, but fortunately he did. 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It's really simple, and you know, 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:26.000 it's not necessarily a rule, but I think that our sport, 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.400 especially at this time of the year. Like I mentioned 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.920 it a second ago, like unprompted that Bristol, the Saturday 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.680 night race at Bristol in the fall was like like 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.200 there was nothing, there was nothing any better than that. 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.200 And I think our fans and the people that watch NASCAR, 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:47.680 I think we all miss that Saturday night energy and 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.480 that vibe around the races, and I would love to 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.040 have more of them. We don't have a lot of 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.320 them in general. We have some of these Sunday night races, 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.200 which I think are just kind of awkward for people, 0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.160 you know, going back to work on Monday morning, you know, 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.960 and then certainly unfortunately when you have a rain de 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.000 lay like we hit it Atlanta, we were we finished 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:07.520 at two am, so you know, kind of tough. But 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.680 I just the energy and the atmosphere that is extracted 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.200 from our sport. On a Saturday night race especially some 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.720 of these short tracks is pretty elite in my opinion 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.040 in sports, and I would love to have more of them. 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.600 I couldn't agree with you more like having a Sunday 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:24.280 where fans want to go and want to drive out 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.480 to wherever the racetrack is and they want to get 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.480 after it to have fun and experience that user harder 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.400 and money to watch you guys do something at an 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.600 elite level. It's like and not fake about Monday. Now, 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.720 I think about Monday because you're like in your head 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.440 like I really want to let loose and have fun, 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.160 but there's something in the back of here, got yeah, 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:38.760 I gotta get. 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.840 Going Monday, Like I can't miss this Tomorrow's day. 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.080 Like yeah, yeah, I'm with the Saturday move. You were saying, 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.680 like a lot of fans kind of misconstrue how like 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.120 NASCAR really is and they want to show up for 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.360 the crashes and the party and all that. That tells 0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.360 me that you're on the stance of anti Talladay. Good nights, 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.400 am I am. I correct in saying that, because look 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.400 the cool the cool thing here with me. Sorry to 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.720 cut you off. We've had so many people on the 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.640 bus now multiple guys at one time, and then you 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.920 know individuals as well, and it's been such a crazy 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.920 contrast of eye opening. That movie is a disgrace to 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.479 our sport, has literally been said on this bus, and 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.440 then it's also been called a documentary. So I need 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:21.960 to know. I got to know where you stand on 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:23.000 Teldega Nights. 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.719 Yeah, I'm not a fan, okay, all right, yeah, not 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:28.560 even a little bit of it. 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:28.720 Not. 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:29.880 Are you a will fail guy? 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.520 Uh? Yeah? I like some of his movies, but here, listen, 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.080 you have you have to understand there is a This 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:37.520 is not me saying I don't like to have a 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.800 good time, because I one hundred percent do. I think 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.240 there's a time for that, like Talladega, you know, especially 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.480 the infield and all that. Like I've been there, I've 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.680 done it. It's the blast. Don't get me wrong, if 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:54.040 you haven't been, go it's fun. I just think that, 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.280 you know, there is a time and place for that, 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.680 and then there's also space in that too, respect the 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.240 craft of what we do. And I kind of like 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.320 to have a little bit of both where I don't 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.160 think Talladay and Knights is a very good representation of 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:14.160 the driver's viewpoint of what we do behind the wheel. 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.240 So I think that's where probably more than just me, 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.480 it sounds like, just feel like man, it's such a 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:25.479 misrepresentation of our jobs and the work and the time 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:30.440 that we put into our craft. None of that is 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.360 felt or understood in that, you know, in that movie. 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.440 So I think that's where I'm just like, man, this 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.480 is just such a terrible representation of every piece of 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.840 what we do and why I think it's cool. But 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.040 I also understand that people think things are cool for 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.120 different reasons. But I just don't think the reasons that 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:54.320 I respect and love our sport are exemplified very well 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:55.440 in that movie. 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.320 I'll tell you this, it's a good breakdown. 0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.240 I almost feel like I can't like it as much 0:33:59.280 --> 0:33:59.760 as I do. 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.080 My stance, I'm telling you that's going to stay the same. 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.200 I can respect Chase, I do love the movie. Here's 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.600 the two things. One that I kind of gathered when 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.560 I was in Nashville for the race. I grew up. 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.359 My grandfather would take me to the pir We would 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.440 go to those races every single year and you'd watch it. 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.239 But as an eight year old, You're like, this is 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.000 just really cool. Look how fast they're all going. You 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.279 don't understand it. Fans. People will become fans if they 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.120 go to the race. You hear the roar of the car. 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.839 You get able to watch the pit stops in live time, 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.319 seeing the cars going around. But I think another thing 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.920 that needs to happen is someone needs to kind of 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.560 break down when you got you know, three y guys 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.719 are drafting, they're making a move, how somebody shuts them down? 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.799 Like when we see that happening in real time. I 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.640 know for me, I can't break down like, oh, this 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.040 is what the driver's doing from a defensive standpoint and 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.160 the other drivers doing from an offensive standpoint. I wish 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.360 there was somebody that could go and whether it's YouTube 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.400 or during the broadcast, or they're showing how people are 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.000 using their feet and pedals the whole thing to kind 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.799 of show how they're manipulating their car to get one 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.080 up or be defensive, and I just I don't know 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.840 how that looks. But because all all the things you're saying, 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.440 the thing that is going against you is you're inside 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.640 of a car, So I don't get to watch all 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:14.960 your mannerisms and movements of what you're looking at everything 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.840 like that as opposed to like a football or hockey 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.239 or baseball or anything like that. Am I on the right 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:19.759 page here? 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.200 I think yeah, I think you are for sure. And 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.960 I think that, like, you know, I wish more of 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:30.359 us had on board cameras too, like, because I'm fascinated 0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.600 today to this day, I can sit and watch somebody's 0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.800 on board and just be I mean, I can be glued. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.239 I could. I could watch the race from somebody's on 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.719 board camera, watching a driver and watching outside of their 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.319 car all day. I mean I can sit there and 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.280 watch it. And I think that for me, it's because 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.440 you know, I do have an understanding of what's going on. 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.040 But I would love to incorporate more of that into 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:59.600 our broadcast. I think that TV sometimes they find themselves 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.200 in a little bit of a tough spot here because 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:06.560 and I can understand both sides, where you have a 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.960 fan that might be watching for a long time or 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.160 somebody like me who just wants to see it onboard 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.440 and talk about all these little details like you're mentioning. 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.400 But then you also have fans that are new to 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:20.200 our sport that don't understand any of this that's going on. 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.680 And it's like I think they they sometimes worry if 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:25.920 they get too far into the details, are they going 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:30.840 to lose the people that have just started watching and 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.160 not bring them closer to it and almost push them away. 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.319 And I think sometimes that's the that's the fear. But 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.680 I love that stuff. And I told a lot of friends, 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.759 like we've watched a lot of over the Winner, you know, 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.760 this yearly, and like like I'm like, man, I've watched 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.520 I've watched enough football in my life now that I'm 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.000 almost to the point where like I love watching the 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.359 game and I entertained by the game, absolutely, but I 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.960 want to know more, Like I want to know why, 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.720 you know, if the linebacker moves left or the safety 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.360 drops back and the quarterback changes the play, well, what 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.279 did he see? Why? Like why did that happen? Can 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.439 someone explain this to me? Like I want to start 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:19.719 learning more about about what's going on. So that's me though, 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:21.440 and it sounds like that's you too, And I think 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.080 there's a lot of people out there that would love 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.279 that type of information given. But it would also take 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.319 a little work, right, Like it's not just something you're 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.040 going to pick up overnight, and you've got to be 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.400 willing to put the time in to learn it. And 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.160 I just think if people were willing to put some 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.600 extra time into learning about all the details that our 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.000 sport has to offer, I think it would I think 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.600 you would be hooked even more than you are already 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:44.399 worth to begin with. 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.920 Yeah, because I remember, like to bring it back at 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.439 Dale who was on the bus and he was talking 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.359 about rising through the ranks of NASCAR and he had 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.160 this driver. He didn't say what driver it was, what 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.520 how would they'd come around this turn, They'd be in 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.839 this certain position over and over again, and the driver 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.760 would always get the best if and his dad referenced 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.400 using his break a certain way on a turn, and 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.719 he did it the next race and tap the guy 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.080 just enough. He ended up getting run off into the 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.280 grass and he won the race. And it's like those 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.239 little small, inchricate details are so fascinating to me because 0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.520 when you're talking about why is the linebacker moving the safety, 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.000 It's like, oh, well, in my head, I'm playing the 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.759 reasons why people can do that because we've been in 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.799 it for so long, and it'd be really cool to 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.280 see why you would hit your brake versus a gas 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.120 and where you would position yourself on a car because 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.640 you see the takeovers and they're awesome, but you know, 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:38.080 you don't know the full detail of everything going on. Yeah, yeah, what. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:42.680 Would on that note? Is there like how do you 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.680 go back in twenty nineteen and Charlotte where you hit 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.840 your brake, slock, you go into the wall, you go 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.160 from first to last, and then you still end up 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.880 winning the race, Like is there a crash course that 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.640 you could give us in fans on how the hell 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.120 you even pulled that off? And then obviously celebrating with 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.880 a little burnout and running yourself into the wall for 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.160 some fun. But how does that even happen? 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.120 I like to point out before you answer that question, 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.520 that's a teleg a night's reference. If you're not first 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:09.960 your last? Yeah, just so. 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:18.719 Right? Yeah, I get it, but I yeah, man, it 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:23.360 was a it was a wild, wild experience. I uh, 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.359 you talk about a roller coaster of emotions. Now, I 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.319 was on it. I was driving the train. Uh that day, 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:33.400 for sure, it was. We were super good that weekend, 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.120 you know. And and boy, if you needed me to mess, 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.839 if you needed a guy to mess something up. I 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.719 was him. I was the one, and you know, we 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.960 had to restart, and at the time to kind of 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.319 give you some more detail, you're asking for details, I'm 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:54.000 gonna give it to you. We the restart zone at 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.120 that particular race was not the same way we exited 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.120 the last corner onto the stre right away during a 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.000 normal lap. So at Charlotte, the road course kind of 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.359 goes through the infield. Well, Nascar I decided that they 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.160 didn't want the restart to do the same thing because 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.279 the field was going to be shrung out so long. 0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.799 They wanted to just have a normal restart, like you 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.680 were running the oval and then you would then break 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:23.920 and go into turn one. Well, I miscalculated my breaking 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.120 spot because I was going way faster than I had 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.240 been going on a normal lap. And I had gotten 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.799 so used by my cadence of like when I was 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.920 breaking and when I was stopping. I had gotten so 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.400 used to doing that over and over and over again 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.439 that I kind of drove to a similar mark. And boy, 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.279 when I stepped on the brakes, I was like, this 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.600 is not going to work. We are not going to 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:52.160 make it. And yeah, I just locked it up, drove 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.680 straight in the fence, and fortunately there was a bunch 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.640 of tire barriers in turn one, so it was actually 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:03.520 really soft, like a pretty off hit, and yeah, somehow 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.680 it it didn't tear the car up all that bad. 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.279 And uh, yeah, we threw some duct tape on it 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.520 and line back up there last and there was just 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.360 enough laps to to get back up through the field. 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.480 But we were we were really fast. We had a 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:22.160 really good run of road races there for a few years, honestly, 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.000 where we just had a ton of pace and things 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.440 rock and roll, and I was really comfortable in the cars, 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.239 uh and the setups we had going on, and yeah, 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.920 kind of cut back up through there and got back 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.880 up to like I don't know, tenth or eight they're somewhere, 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.120 and had a couple of cautions and I was like, man, Mike, 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.319 we might actually have a shot at this thing now. 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.040 And yeah, the race kind of kept playing along, kept 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.120 falling our hands, got the cautions at the right time, 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.680 and I was able to get back up to that 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.359 even had a few laps to spare. We got out 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.160 front led the last last handful, So it was pretty cool. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.480 Is there ever a moment where you're once you're in 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.080 the lead on the last few laughs where you just 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.120 kind of, I don't know, laugh with the boys on 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.120 the mic, like if I can't believe we just went 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.840 from how about that? 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.719 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that was definitely the 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.319 day for for sure. I think for me, like I 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.239 was so I wanted to crawl in the deepest hole 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.440 you could find because I thought that I had thrown 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.319 this race away, you know, I mean like I just 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:24.359 felt like such an idiot, and so yeah, I think 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.600 for me, my my emotions were just so all over 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.279 the place. It probably took me a bit to realize 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:35.279 just exactly what all went on. How funny the whole 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.880 situation was. But I can tell you this, boy, it 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.279 was not funny in the moment. It was I thought 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.360 they were I mean, I'm sure they wanted to kill me. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.640 I'm sure everybody did. Like we were, you know, we were, 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:50.279 we were chilling, and yeah, didn't work didn't work out 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.240 for a bit, but thankfully it came back around. 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.080 You talk about guys wanting to kill you, what's the 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.279 what's the biggest running you've ever had with like a 0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.640 crew chief or a pit crew guy or someone of 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.600 your team that. Have you ever just pissed them off 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.120 beyond belief for they're chewing your ass out? 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.520 I mean I have for sure. I mean, like on 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.239 my team in particular you're talking about, Yeah, ah, man, 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.919 I I feel like my guys have been pretty nice 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.680 to me over the years. Like I don't know, I 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.400 can't think of a time where we're like, you know, 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.839 at each other's throats by any means. I mean, I'm 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.000 sure there's days where they are not happy with me 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:33.719 and the decision that I made on track, but they've 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.959 always given me a lot of respect. So I can't 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.920 say I've I've had a bad run in internally like that. 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.560 I mean, certainly I've gotten into it with some other 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.520 drivers over the years, but for the most part, I 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.120 feel like we've we've stayed locked arms pretty tight throughout 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:48.960 the course of my career. 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.520 Let me ask you this, when that situation happens in 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.319 twenty nineteen and you're in last place, the cars running great, 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:55.919 and you want to crawl into a deep dark hole, 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.719 what are the comms like with the radio? Is a 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.880 little more quiet for a little bit. He's got the 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:08.879 duct there. You're you're just You're just ways racing quietly dark. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.600 I didn't want to hear a word. I didn't want 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.560 to hear a word. I'm sure nobody wanted to speak 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.040 a word to me. And and honestly, it is probably 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.160 the best It's probably the best medicine I could have 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.319 got at that point in time because I locked in, 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:28.080 and I mean I I didn't think there was any 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.600 shot we were ever going to win that race after 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.520 I crashed, so let's be clear there. But as we 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.799 got back rolling, my hope, my hope meters started to 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.919 grow and I thought, man, there would be no better 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.040 way for me to fix this and go and get 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.440 this done. So it, Yeah, I was pretty motivated to 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.279 to do everything in my power to uh you know, 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:55.440 try and get back up through there. And yeah, the 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.719 moods were the moods were much different than I thought 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.120 they were going to be, no question. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:00.680 No doubt. 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.200 Is there a crew from another team out there that 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.360 you've pissed off that's kind of gone under the radar 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:06.399 over the years. 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.880 I don't think so. I mean, I would say in 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.640 those instances that I've gotten into it with some other drivers, 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.719 like you know, Denny and I had a couple of 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:19.680 runnings there at different points in time, Me and Harvard 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:25.080 got into it. At one point in time, those erased 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.920 Joey and I crashed. I think I actually kind of 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:34.759 ran him in the fence inadvertently. So I'm sure that 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:39.480 you know, there have been team guys that are mad 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.080 and probably want to come, you know, run me up 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.239 the road, but they haven't. I feel like it's been 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.560 more you know that they left the drivers and they 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.880 left their guy kind of handle it the way that 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.360 they see fit, and I think that's pretty normal, you know, 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.160 like the on track stuff I feel like is for 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.360 the most part, between the drivers, like we're driving the 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:03.080 cars and we you know, uh, try to take responsibility 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.680 for the things that happen, whether you're in the right 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:06.400 or in the wrong, and sometimes you're not going to 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.640 see ey to eye. But like for the most part 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.520 of their crew guys kind of let us, you know, 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:12.319 let us handle that. 0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.720 Yeah, when you're when you're coming up in the ranks, 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.360 like when your first time you're getting the Cup Series, 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.480 Like what's the most intimidated you've ever been by another driver? 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.319 It doesn't have to be an interaction between the two 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.560 where you guys getting the crash, but maybe you see 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.279 somewhere you're like, holy shit, that's so and so I 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:27.640 can't believe on the same track as them. 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.880 Yeah, I mean for me, I would say it was 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.480 that rookie year at at Talladaate or I'm sorry, at Daytona. 0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.880 We went down there for the five hundred, and you 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.640 have to you have to remember, like I grew up 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.200 around these guys like like you know, and and my 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.640 dad and all these different guys that were racing still 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.759 when I first started. I'm talking like these dudes were 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.640 a big deal for me. You know, like I have 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:01.480 spent the majority of my life watching these guys race 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.960 on TV and you know, being around them. So it 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:11.080 wasn't necessary rookie hundred for me. On the pole, we 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.680 set fast time in qualifying and you know here I was. 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.880 I was, I was twenty years old. I just stepped 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:21.080 into the twenty four car. Jeff Gordon just retired. I was. 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:25.520 I was the guy to you know, replace that seat, 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.719 and I had, you know, probably no business being there 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.360 at that point in time, and you know, here I was. 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:34.800 It was it was time to go, and I was 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.239 starting first for the Daytona five hundred and twenty sixteen 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.000 it was. And I just remember getting done with driver 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.239 intros and you know, my car was at the front 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.880 of the grid obviously started first, so I'm literally walking 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.960 by guys that you know, I had grown up watching 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.960 my entire life, and I'm you know, fixing to lead 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.759 the field to the green and I just remember thinking, man, like, 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.360 I don't know how much business I have doing this 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:06.120 right now, but here we go. And it was It 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.799 was a lot, but it was a lot of fun 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.640 looking back on, and I'm so thankful for those memories 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:16.800 and you know, all the all the nerves and just 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.680 the excitement that I had and just kind of seeing 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.440 a dream, you know, literally come to reality in that moment, 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.439 and it was, Uh, it was wild. So it wasn't 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.600 necessarily one person, but just literally walking past all of 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.640 the legends of the sport of that time. Uh, to 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.480 go and start that race was was pretty surreal. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.840 Especially getting into twenty four. What's the what's the story 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.919 behind you making the switch from twenty four to nine? 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.400 Yeah, actually a pretty cool story. I I I mean 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.640 nine has always been my favorite number, so you know, yes, yes, 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.640 it was my dad's number, and you know, they had 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.879 a lot of great success with it. But I really 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.080 just love the number. I just thought it looked good. 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.359 It was kind of all I ever knew. I wasn't 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:08.080 trying necessarily to like, you know, copy him. I just 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.239 I really love the number. And as I raced more, 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:14.879 it became it became kind of home for me. It's 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.680 kind of just, uh yeah, it's just what I, you know, 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.200 what I wanted to be if I had a choice, 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.160 that was always what I you know, what I picked 0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.480 through sports, t ball, you know, whatever it was, and 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.919 obviously got to racing and you know, ran around doing 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.440 the short track thing for many years and and uh, 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:34.960 you know, we had had enough success to kind of 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.520 get to the next thing and the next thing. And 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.120 obviously when I started, you know, Jeff had stepped away, 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.399 and really the only change in the twenty four car 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.440 was me, you know, Jeff. Jeff stepped out and retired, 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.279 and the rest of the team was all the exact same, 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.880 including the number. So you know, first off, what am 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.960 I going to do if if if Rick Hendrick walked 0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:57.319 up to you and said, hey, I want I want 0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.879 you to I want you to drive the twenty four 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:00.600 car next year, what I I'm not I wasn't going 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.920 to sit there and tell him, sorry, sir, you know, 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.200 I can't do that unless it's the nine. So that 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:09.680 that wasn't going to happen. And I just never felt 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.800 like I was in a position to ask for that, 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.359 and I was never going to. I mean, I'll tell 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.080 you straight up, I was never going to ask to 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.799 swap numbers. It just it wasn't my place. He has done, 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.879 you know, and he had had done and has done 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:26.800 since way too much for me to really ask for 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.920 much of anything. But what had happened was we had 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.520 had another driver change at HMS there going into the 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:40.520 twenty eighteen season, and it had gotten announced and I 0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:44.480 had I had, you know, one afternoon, I had a 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.880 text from Dale Junior and he's sent a message and 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.160 he said, hey, if you want to be number nine 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:56.239 nine again, now's your chance. And I was like, man, 0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:57.920 you know, I just and I told him the exact 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.680 same thing, just told y'all, I'm like, how can I 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.680 ask if I can ask anything more? And he said, look, 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.320 he said, you know, now's the time to do it. 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.960 It fits it's you, it's it's your family. It's an 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.080 opportunity if that's what you want to be you know, 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.160 this is going to be your last opportunity to do 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.120 it with the changes that we had going on an organization. 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.320 I said, well, I'm I said, of course I want to, 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.239 but you know, I'm going to need your help, Like 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:26.040 I'm going to need you to kind of help, you know, 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.880 talk to the boss and make sure that I'm not 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:32.719 you know, overstepping my my boundary here. And so he did, 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.680 and and he kind of helped kind of push me 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.120 to start asking questions. And then I think he also 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.680 kind of gave the boss a nudge about, you know, 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.719 how cool it would be to make that swapping, to 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:48.920 make it happen. So Rick ended up reaching out to 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.759 Richard Petty at the time, who owned the nine and 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.160 through the different ownership in just throughout the years that 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.440 had wound up with you know, with Richard, and he said, look, 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.200 you can have it. He said, if you if you 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.640 want it, you can have it. And he gave him 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.440 the ownership rights to the number, and and off we went. 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.279 So long story short, Dale Junior is the reason for 0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:15.960 the switch, and I'm thankful for it because it definitely 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.200 feels like home for me, you know, for a lot 0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.240 of different reasons. The number is special to my family 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.400 and and all the people over the years that have 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:27.320 kind of helped my career and my dad's career become 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.839 what it was and what it is today. So I'm 0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:34.400 grateful for that. And yeah, and also kind of the 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.399 story and the run of being so close to winning 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.200 in the twenty four and just never got over the hump. 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.200 And then you know, it got to twenty eighteen and 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:42.799 we swapped numbers and that was a year I got 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.680 my first win, and it just kind of seemed like 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:46.719 the that was the way the story was meant to be, 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:53.080 and it was, you know, really really part of that's sick. 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:53.600 Shut on Dale. 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:55.640 Dale is the man for that. 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.400 You know, he's probably playing college football twenty seven right 0:52:58.480 --> 0:52:59.000 now as we do. 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.920 This with a new with the new group of boys too. 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:02.880 He got kicked out of his league and. 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:09.399 Oh no, no, we lost him. 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:12.759 Chase, you got us, buddy. 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:16.120 Chase, you got us. 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:18.080 I think I lost to you again. 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:18.919 Oh we're back. 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:20.759 I lost you again. I think I got you back 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:21.960 to perfect? 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:24.600 Yoh man, did you have a good college football twenty 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:25.960 seven joke in there? On Dale Junior? 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:26.920 It sounds like he did. 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.000 I didn't know that, then you're probably right. I bet 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:34.960 he is. He is playing, or if he's not, he 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.000 will be. He will be soon. He's a big he's 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:38.440 a big fan. 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:40.480 He's got the playbook out right now, he's down and 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:42.000 everything in there. I just saw a think on college 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.720 football twenty seven. Everyone who's played it through a season 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:51.040 so far, Bryce Underwood always transfers all I hate that, 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.719 Chase I went to Michigan. That's our quarterback, Bryce under 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.960 what it's it's uh, it's heartbreaking that video game trying 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.040 to put that kind of evil on me. Before we 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.799 get you out of here, man, I want to ask 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:04.640 about one individual. I ask about him every single podcast. 0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:07.160 NASCAR probably told you this idiot, Taylor's going to ask 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.080 you about this guy. Talk to me about Carson joso Arc. 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.560 It's third last week. Every driver that's come in has 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.319 been a little more like, ah, you know, some guys 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.800 are more blunt than others. But what has your experience 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.200 been like with Carson Josavar. I wore number seventy seven 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.200 football when we started this show. I was like, I 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.480 need to get back into this. Who should I root for? 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.399 Overwhelming was Carson Hoosa Art it seems like a guy 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.759 who's loved and hated at the same time. I beg 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:32.959 ying and Yang takes place. He doesn't mine running somebody 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.320 in the wall. When he needs to, he'll hold a grudge. 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:36.960 What has it been like for you and him? 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.880 Yeah, I I it's kind of funny you ask. I 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.799 know he's been a hot topic here lately, but yeah, 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.680 I have no issues with him. I really don't. And 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.759 you know, he's a guy that you know, he's he's 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.560 racing me hard, and there's been a couple of times 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.239 I felt like, maybe, like right around his rookie year, 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.200 that he kind of me the wrong way a couple 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.560 of times. But you know, I do remember having a 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.719 couple of conversations with him there early on, you know, respectfully, 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:13.359 you know, just the best I knew. How and ever, 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.000 since then we have been totally good, and I feel 0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:17.840 like he always treats me with a lot of respect. 0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:21.080 On track, he races hard, but I'm okay with that, 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:23.120 you know, unless he's running me in the fence or 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:29.360 crashing me or you know, something stupid. I'm kind of 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.919 good right now, so subject to change. I mean, who knows, 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.400 Like you never know what's gonna happen next week. But 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.800 I feel like he's given me quite a lot of 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.480 respect really ever since those those early on incidents that 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.640 I wouldn't even say incidents, but just conversations we had 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:50.040 just kind of you know, racers talking back and forth. 0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:54.040 So I wish I had something juicier and better to 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.480 give you, but I don't. We've kind of been good, 0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:00.640 so I'm uh, I have no, I have no issue 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:00.960 right now. 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.880 Did you talk to him the same way that Bubba? 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:03.080 Did? 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:05.120 You know there's a viral video of Bubble kind of 0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.279 like getting it sitting like up on the wall a 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:08.960 little bit and he's like kind of talking at him 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:10.560 a little bit. Was that kind of your conversation or 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.360 was it like, hey, just so. 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.440 You know, I haven't seen the video of that, But no, 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.680 it was. I mean, I wasn't talking at him by 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:19.759 any means, like I think it was just more of 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.680 a conversation of you know, hey, maybe I would have 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.319 done this, I guess, coming back to my dad's way 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:31.200 of telling me, I wouldn't have done that, so inadvertently, 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.800 but probably more that route than than I was, you know, 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:41.279 talking at him. So yeah, maybe nothing fiery, nothing mean 0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:45.879 nothing dramatic, just hey, you know, let's let's think about 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:48.160 this a little differently. And I feel like with me, 0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.280 at least, it's been it's been all good. 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.800 Nothing juicy with hosts of ar. But how about a 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:57.560 juicy little fun fact about your teammates at Hendrick Motorsports, 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:02.400 William Byron and Kyle Larson, any juicy fun factor sittings 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.360 you'd have to describe them that people wouldn't know. 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:12.240 About man trying to think. I mean, you know, Kyle 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.080 obviously is uh, you know, out racing a lot, and 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:25.360 I get to see him not as much William. William 0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:28.280 really has fascinated me, h throughout the course of his 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:31.840 career and just his path and how different it is 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.560 and has been, you know it like for me and 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.280 and Kyle both. And honestly, I would say the majority 0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.200 of the guys that race in the field no different 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:44.520 than blood and golf or t ball or football at 0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:46.320 a young age. I mean, you're starting to do these 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:50.600 things when you're heck, I don't know, six seven, eight 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:55.040 years old, right, like maybe even younger nowadays. And that 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.920 was not the case for William, like and and it 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.840 just mind blows me that this guy I started racing 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:02.920 as late as he did. He spent the majority of 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:07.840 his time racing on ie racing like online and and 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:12.640 has has legitimately become one of the best guys and 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:16.680 the most talented drivers in the field every week at 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:21.240 any track. And so that that you know, not that 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:24.520 it's like some you know, juicy, funny story, but that 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:30.120 part about William for me, he has been so cool 0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.840 to watch and also a great lesson and just kind 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.920 of there's not one right way, Like this guy has 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:39.000 defined every right way that I thought there would be 0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:42.080 to do this, and I just think it's really cool. 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.200 So his perspective on things is totally different uh than 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.200 mine is like in our meetings and stuff. But he uh, 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:53.040 I think that different perspective has has also made us 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.200 stronger and it's also opened my eyes to just being 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.000 open to you know, looking at things a little differently too. 0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.600 And he's a he's a good dude. 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:04.920 Well, it is a very fascinating career path that he's 0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:06.720 kind of had to get in a NASCAR. What is 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.880 something that William does better that people don't realize? 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:16.160 He is just so smooth with his inputs and I 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.560 think that he probably gets some of that from the 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.880 online stuff that you know he did over the years. 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.680 And and also what I think is really cool that 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.120 that really has worked in his favor a lot is 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.120 he didn't know what he didn't know. And you know 0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:34.720 that sounds so so dumb, but he had no he 0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:37.560 had no bad habits, right and you know, he comes in. 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.960 He ran a couple of years in the old generation car. 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.520 He was he was really starting to get going towards 0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:45.240 the end of that, and then we swapped cars and 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:47.800 right when that happened, it was like right up his alley. 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:51.200 And I think a lot of that was because he 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.040 just he didn't know any different. He didn't have a lot, 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:56.160 he didn't have years and years and years of doing 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.240 things a certain way that he had bad habits to 0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:02.000 have to break. And just being super open minded I 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:06.480 think has helped him excel quite a lot. So it's 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:09.640 been it's been really cool, really fun. Like I said, 1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:12.439 just super interesting. I wish you guys could just see 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:15.560 the things behind closed doors a little more to understand 1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:20.200 what I'm exactly what I'm talking about. But yeah, it's uh, 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:21.240 it's been impressive. 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.360 We'll have to get out there and I'm gonna be honest, 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:27.400 we've done this interview. I don't even know what people are, 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:29.360 the drivers the boys are talking about. 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.760 Yeah, oh yeah, crack up. It's like he seemed like 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:33.320 he was ready to go the whole time. Yeah, it 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:35.080 was really blinquant. I to set it off for all 1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.160 of us. The greatest band of all time got it 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:37.600 all done. 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:39.440 They saved us. 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:42.760 They say the Blue Cheese started shallen, Yep, it started 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:46.240 this entire relationship. Man, It's absolutely beautiful. Dude. Listen, ball 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:47.920 is in your core when it comes to this friendship. 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:49.560 You want to make it bigger. You're more than welcome to. 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:50.680 We love to do some stuff with you. 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:51.000 Will. 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.280 Oh you're good. I thought you. Yeah, I did not 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:57.480 again get nervous. You're the man, dude. Everyone's a fan 1:00:57.520 --> 1:00:59.520 favorite of you. We're fans of you as well. We 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:01.680 appreciate you taking the time coming on, even if it's 1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:03.680 Ja zoom. You're taking the time out of a busy week. 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.040 Yeah. Man, Well, sorry, it hadn't worked out the last 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:10.080 couple of times we tried to schedule it, but I 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.560 appreciate you guys having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:15.600 We'd love to do it again. So uh, we'll have 1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:16.560 to try again sometime. 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:18.000 I love it. Brother, We'll get in a car. You 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:19.880 can show us all the ins and outs. Yeah, start 1:01:20.000 --> 1:01:23.360 ripping around the track a couple of times, perfect. 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:24.880 And right before you get off, would you just be 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:27.000 would you just want to take the stance that Ryan 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.200 Blaney he's a shitty golfer, like you're the best one 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:29.680 of the group. 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:33.919 Well, the thing about that is I've played enough golf 1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:36.240 with Ryan Blaney to know that that is not true. 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:42.880 So he dude, I've played a lot of golf with Ryan, 1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:46.000 and I don't think we have left the golf course 1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:50.760 one time and he be paying me. I think I 1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:52.600 think I had been paying him every time we have 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:55.760 left the golf course with any wager on any game. Ever. 1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:59.800 So that should tell you all that all that you 1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:00.320 need to know. 1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.400 Okay, all right, all right, shout out right, golfer, great 1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:06.160 golferod driver, Chase, you're the man. 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:07.840 Let's give Chase one more. 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:12.640 Time, great, great, great mustache. One last week like we 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:17.200 just we can't roll, bro. 1:02:17.200 --> 1:02:19.560 You broke up a little bit. I heard great mustache. 1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:20.560 No matter what. 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.000 One day, we're getting him were the bus. 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:22.480 We're getting the. 1:02:23.120 --> 1:02:25.080 Morning on the bus. But we appreciate you. Thank you 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:26.320 so much for coming on racing with the boys. 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:27.680 You're the man cool. 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:29.640 See you ball. 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.200 Thank you guys. 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