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Speaker 1: You were in the market for free agent? Who do

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Speaker 1: Welcome into what's vernon? I'm fresh off of plane from Denver,

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Speaker 1: right and chipper and cheery after forty five minutes of sleep.

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Speaker 1: But the Nuggets are NBA champions. Matt Barnes, boogy cousins,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. Look is this what you expected? Is this

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Speaker 1: going into this finals? I think you both picked the Nuggets?

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Speaker 1: So would you think.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's just talk about your night. I

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Speaker 2: hit so Nate hit me last night, asked him, I'm

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Speaker 2: coming in. I'm like, yeah, I'm coming in. Who am

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Speaker 2: I working with? Because I just saw Rachel getting champagne

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Speaker 2: nearly poured on her, Like she's in Denver in the

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Speaker 2: locker room, right, yeah, in Denver in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, she's catching an early fight. So what

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Speaker 2: was your give us your last twenty four hours?

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Speaker 1: All right? So flew out to Denver, you know, there

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Speaker 1: for the game and kind of you know, we expected, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're because we think the championship could happen. And Miami

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Speaker 1: jumps out to that sizeable lead. At the start of

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Speaker 1: make plans for Thursday. What's happening? This is what happens.

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Speaker 1: Everybody in the media section.

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Speaker 2: Do you pack for? What to do you pack for?

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Speaker 2: You have to pack for Denver?

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Speaker 1: And I was gonna come home between either way, but

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Speaker 1: some trips you do, right, So it just kind of depends.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone in the media section is partly concerned

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Speaker 1: as Denver kind of makes the comeback and it just

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Speaker 1: Miami to me. I don't know, you guys thought it

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Speaker 1: just thought. At some point you run out of legs, right,

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Speaker 1: like just Jimmy Butler looked like he couldn't elevate, like

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Speaker 1: the team BAM couldn't do everything. And it felt like

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Speaker 1: Denver was settling in. And then those last two minutes

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Speaker 1: were absolutely bedlam and the arena was going crazy. It

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Speaker 1: is happening, and they've never won a title in Denver before.

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Speaker 1: For the nuggets. Obviously they've won a bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: So the streets were bananas. I saw people were like,

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Speaker 1: you know, honking everywhere, traffic everywhere, out in the streets.

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Speaker 2: I saw Aaron Gordon out in the streets with his people.

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Speaker 1: Aaron left the arena in a very good place. That's

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Speaker 1: good is that it's a final champagne.

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Speaker 2: There you go, as he should big So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know they were letting off a

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Speaker 1: and hear that one of those fireworks was sadly a shooting.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's rough when that happens. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was four thirty in the morning in a car

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Speaker 2: Boom, that's serious. Okay, Now back to the game. As

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Speaker 2: you were saying, yeah, exactly, I just thought, obviously Miami

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Speaker 2: had a hell of a run, historic run in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't finish with the championship, but where

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Speaker 2: they came from to what they did, and I say

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Speaker 2: they had the most heart and just everything you need

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Speaker 2: to win. Denver just had more talent at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, Like I said, I think Miami got

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Speaker 2: as far as they could possibly got. Jimmy was great

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Speaker 2: the entire time, struggled the entire game until the last

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Speaker 2: the day, you know, Jokic was incredible, Murray fairly consistent.

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Speaker 2: The others that stepped up, Aaron Gordon was huge, Porter

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Speaker 2: think Denver overall had more talent and and got the

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Speaker 2: job done. But man, hats off to Mike Malone and

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Speaker 2: those guys. First championship. I saw something that said stan kronky'

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Speaker 2: is the first owner that had what for American sports

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Speaker 2: titles in the last two years. That's not he's making

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, shout out to Denver, man and congratulations for sure.

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Speaker 1: But would you think of the way the finals went overall?

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Speaker 4: they going to like Matt said on story where in

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Speaker 4: And with that being said, it's a different look. It's

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Speaker 4: a trendy league. Uh you know, want to go to

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Speaker 4: And one thing that stood out to me about this

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Speaker 3: Is dem is just a big ass team.

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Speaker 2: A gentlemen man. Right.

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Speaker 4: You got a seven foot center playing the point, you

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Speaker 4: then you know the icing on the cherry on top

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Speaker 4: So it's the perfect combination. And it's now a time

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I love that take. But is it is

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Speaker 2: a like like your style, Big Jokic style, embad style,

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Speaker 4: It's just the matchups don't make sense. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Because they're gonna have a nice little run.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, what you're talking about with the bigs.

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Speaker 1: The three finalists for MVP this year all big men, right,

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Speaker 1: deserved finals MVP. These were his numbers, guys, thirty point

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Speaker 1: He's only twenty eight years old. I mean, it's bonkers.

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Speaker 1: He also showed again why he's a different kind of superstar.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to go home, right right?

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Speaker 1: Did you see this? Billy? They really go were you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's funny. Yeah, shaking the champagne either. He

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Speaker 2: I mean, he played incredible.

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Speaker 1: And accepting a different role, yes than he had.

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Speaker 2: He was twenty one, twenty point game score over in

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Speaker 2: So it's just a bunch of different guys. Ish Ish

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Speaker 2: it wasn't the team we expected to be there, either team,

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty four and twenty three's right, and they're.

436
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Speaker 2: Still so.

437
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 3: Babies.

438
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, you lock. My question is, and I love

439
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: what Marcus Smart brings for that team, but is he

440
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: the wild card that you dangle after this possibly see

441
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: what you can get to kind of mix up that flow.

442
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: Obviously you have Brogden still, who is a very capable,

443
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: uh you know, starting point guard, and I don't ever

444
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: want to take anything away from a Marcause to me

445
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: and Marcus smartest similar to a Draymond Green in Golden State,

446
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: I really But I feel like Draymond is the one

447
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: that really makes them go, and you know that's why

448
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: he'll I feel like he'll continue on. Marcus mart has

449
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: been a great piece, defensive player of the year. I

450
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: feel like he's their heart and soul. But I think

451
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: that something needs to tweak with that team. If you're

452
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 2: going to keep Brown and Tatum, which you definitely should,

453
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 2: and I you know, Marcus mart could be back, but

454
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 2: I think Marcus Smart is the one player you could

455
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: possibly get some good pieces for to kind of shake

456
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: up and and and bring some new life to that team.

457
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: What is your thoughts?

458
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: He'd have to change the green hair, which would be distressing.

459
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: He needs to cut that shirt off anyway.

460
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: But I love I.

461
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: Mean, he's one of my favorite guys to cover.

462
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: What do they need?

463
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that you want to see

464
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: on your team, right Marcus.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love Marcus Smart. He's one of

466
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Speaker 2: my favorite players. I don't like he flopped sometimes a

467
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: little too much for me, But the dog, the heart,

468
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: the big shots the big nuts. He takes big shots

469
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: and is not afraid to miss him. So I really

470
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: like Marcus Smart. Boot your question, what do they need?

471
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I think I like what Robert Williams

472
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: brings to their team. He's the type of center that

473
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: team needs. It's not gonna get a lot of touches.

474
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 2: He works with what he gets. I'm thinking possibly a

475
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: solid power forward. It would have been interesting to see,

476
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: although older, it would have been interesting to see what

477
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: Gallinari could have differ for their team this year, you

478
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Him going down to that ACL,

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: I think through a little wrench in the plans, but

480
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: I think a solid power forward who can can shoot,

481
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: run and rebound, you know, so there's not a ton

482
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: of those out there. I like what's his name over

483
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, nas Reed? Is that his name? He's feel

484
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: like he's one of these players that can go and

485
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: really put a team over the top. But yeah, like

486
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Speaker 2: I said, again, love Marcus Smart everything he's done for

487
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 2: that team. But I think he's the one piece you

488
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: can still get quality pieces for So I think you

489
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: you know, you put him out there to kind of

490
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: see what you can get.

491
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the Suns. They got

492
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: a question out there, is CP three you going to

493
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: play for that team next year? There's been kind of

494
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: conflicting reporting. It does seem they're working toward maybe moving

495
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: him on. There's the DeAndre news right that he was

496
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: on the block, maybe a little less on the block

497
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: now that Frank Vocal is there. But how are they

498
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: going to get the depth and the defense and the

499
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: pieces they need. I mean, they got to move and

500
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: change something because we saw they just they weren't deep

501
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: enough in the playoffs. They gave up all that stuff

502
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant, which by the way, I would do too,

503
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: is Kevin Durant, but this is this is the time.

504
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: You got to make that up. So what do you

505
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: think they should do with Chris and DeAndre?

506
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's no question one of them has to go.

507
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: And it's not that any one doesn't bring value to

508
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: that team, because I think they both do. But you

509
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: got to hopen up some money so you can add

510
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: depth to that team and fill in the holes that

511
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: you do.

512
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: You know, yes you do have to fill in, but

513
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: you can't keep both of them.

514
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: Obviously, with Kevin being up in age, it will kind

515
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: of lean you more towards keeping Aiden because he is younger,

516
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: he will be more available than a guy CP's nature,

517
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 4: So it just kind of only makes sense to lead

518
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 4: towards eight. But freeing up I think it's all about

519
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 4: freeing up the money and just trying to fill into depth.

520
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: Those are the clear two answers of which one do

521
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: you go with to make that happen?

522
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. Unfortunately, Chris will be the odd

523
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: man out because of his age. But if you think

524
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: about they have their two superstars. They have Aiden who's

525
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: on the verge of being something. He's got so much

526
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: talent he could be an All Star if he wants,

527
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: or he can just blend in if he wants. I mean,

528
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: that's how much talent Aiden has, right And then outside

529
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: of that, like you said, but if you can free

530
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: up some money, you got to go get pieces that

531
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: fit because you have their two go to guys and

532
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: those are two cod boys right there. So again I

533
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: think CP will be the odd bamp. But then I

534
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: also think, you know, we've been seeing across social media

535
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot.

536
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Speaker 1: Of takers for one of the rumored takers could be

537
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: the Clippers.

538
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: Clippers, Clippers. I heard Clippers, Warriors, I heard Lakers. Yeah,

539
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 2: you know, you hear a lot of different things. I mean,

540
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: Chris has made a ton of money. I've never count

541
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: nobody's pockets, but he's made a ton of money. So

542
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: I think at this point he would probably strategically fit

543
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: into a place for lesser money obviously, so it'll be interesting.

544
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure coming home could be a priority.

545
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: You know his Yeah, he lives in LA and he's

546
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: been gone the last you know, handful of years, and

547
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: his kids are getting older now, so I'm sure that

548
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: could be a priority. Uh, you know, you hear Golden State,

549
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: you know what that could be like. So if he

550
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: doesn't end up in Phoenix, which I don't think it

551
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: will happen, I think he's going to end up somewhere

552
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 2: he's still happy with.

553
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he goes back to the Clippers.

554
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you've got to go back to the Clippers.

555
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm too old for that. But I'll definitely be

556
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: there chair back here, Yeah, I definitely there. The band

557
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: back together.

558
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: The Sons. Six guys under contract right now.

559
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: All I need to sign as well. Yeah. Producer Nate

560
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: Letting us know that Sons have six guys under contract,

561
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: so that is a thin roster. They need to need

562
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: to do something. So let's get to the Lakers, right.

563
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: You've got Austin Reeves, Rijachimura. You could sign technically both

564
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: resigned both of them, but then you really can't do

565
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: anything else, or you can keep one of them. There's

566
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: still rumors that they're going after Kyrie Irving. What would

567
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: you do that?

568
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: M tough. I would love to see the Kyrie and

569
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Lebron reunion, but I just don't know. We were just

570
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: talking about Phoenix. That would be such a top heavy

571
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: team with older stars in Lebron, and you know, I

572
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: just don't know if that's the move you make that

573
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: youth the injection of youth in February is what got

574
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Speaker 2: this team over the hump.

575
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 3: You know.

576
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: Obviously Lebron and a d being healthy and being available

577
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: was key, but the injection of youth is what really

578
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, probably say some jobs over there in that

579
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: Laker office, you know. So it's yeah, it's you know,

580
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm here. You know you're hearing people are gonna throw

581
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: the bag at Austin Reeves, and I think that's dope.

582
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: Hachimore was super, super solid. I still think has a

583
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: lot of potential. You know, these what is the fourth

584
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: or fifth year, He's still really young player in this league.

585
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: So both guys were great. If you sign both those guys,

586
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: and are you gonna be able to fill out the

587
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: an adequate roster with Vetman's you know, I don't really

588
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: know numbers and ship like that, but you definitely I

589
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: would try to keep both. Who knows if they are

590
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: going to be able to afford to keep both, but

591
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: they need youth, plain and simple.

592
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't really know what angle they should

593
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: take either.

594
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Ria. It's like confusing. Do you go all league You're

595
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: gonna be super top heavy, You're gonna build and give

596
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: them some help.

597
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: Again, they just got spanked by Denver, so that's sort

598
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: of the standard you got to hold yourself to. What

599
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: what team could you build that would compete with Denver

600
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: in the West?

601
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, if you if you decide to keep ruining,

602
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: you would feel like they would be going up to Kyrie.

603
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: And if they decided to keep off, and that would

604
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: kind of could Kyrie out right?

605
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Uh, Angel Russell's the odd man out if they go

606
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: after happening anyway.

607
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: Well, we know, obviously, we know they're gonna have to

608
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: put some size next to a d uh to match

609
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: up with Denver. Man I could say this, I would

610
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: hate to be the GM and the Lakers right now.

611
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know what I mean.

612
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: Obviously, Lebron's gonna want to, you know, finish out his

613
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: time then compete for a championship, so you have to

614
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: kind of by his wishes as well.

615
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: It's tough, right, yeah, they the Lakers are in a

616
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: very tough situation. Let's just.

617
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Here's the other wild card with the Kyrie factor is Kyrie,

618
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and now Lebron who used to be an

619
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: iron man. But you know, we all get older. None

620
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: of those guys has played more than sixty five games

621
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: last season. So you're getting into a situation if those

622
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: are your top three guys and they all have an

623
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: injury history at this point, who's gonna be on the

624
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: court from right tonight? What are you getting?

625
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm getting nas read I said it earlier for Boston.

626
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: He's a free agent. He just told me he's a

627
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: free agent. What if you let Ruy slide, which you know,

628
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: good luck, go get your money sign Austin signed nas Red.

629
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: He's a monster. Versatil could play the four and the five,

630
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: has a nice handle, could stretch the floor. He's a dog,

631
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: and then fill around with what else you could fill

632
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: around with.

633
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting to see.

634
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Seriously, Like to me, he's my favorite, and I just

635
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know he's a free agent. He's one of

636
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: my favorite and he doesn't even have to be a superstar.

637
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I just know his motor, how he plays. He's a dog.

638
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna make any team a lot better. So I

639
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: would risk I would, And to be honest, this is

640
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: not a knock on Kyrie. I just think for the Lakers,

641
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: I would take a nas Read first to go out there,

642
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: and there really a lot of fire. Bobby portis type,

643
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, guys that can really just kind of bring

644
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: that grit, but also give you numbers because it's important

645
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: they get numbers too. They can't just have dogs that

646
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: are just dogs. You need something to give you numbers too.

647
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you know, like you said, but

648
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: it's not going to be an easy job for whoever's

649
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: making those decisions over there this year this summer, and.

650
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Kyrie is going to get offered a lot of money

651
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: by Dallas, so we'll have to see how that factors

652
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: into it too. By the way, if he's looking for

653
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: not looking for a new agent.

654
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 2: Man, right here, bro, you already know what it is.

655
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: We know who gotcha Blazers. Big question marks up in Portland.

656
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: Right So, Damian Lillard, you know, kind of hinting he

657
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: might be open to a trade already, Like talking on

658
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: another Showtime program about his possible favorite trade destinations, He's like, well,

659
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: I could go to Miami, but that sort of thing.

660
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't know this for sure.

661
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: My opinion is that he will not go ask for

662
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: a trade. I don't think that that's really the way

663
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: his relationship with Portland and the Blazers are set up.

664
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: But I do think he's sort of making it known

665
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: if that's what they want to do, he's not going

666
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: to fight them on it. And then the question is

667
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: if they did that, they'd obviously be going toward a

668
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: youth movement or they've got the number three pick, which

669
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: is not on Dame's timeline. So do you keep Dame

670
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: and do you trade the number three pick for to

671
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: finally get this man more help?

672
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: I said this a while ago, and they have to

673
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: love Dame enough to let him go, to trade him

674
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: out of respect for everything he's done. I just think

675
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: it's time. He's been tremendous. But tell me that there's

676
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: one player in the league that can make Portland a

677
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: championship team, especially going through the West. Is there one

678
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: player that that third pick can get you? I don't

679
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: necessarily think so, So I think it's time to let Dame,

680
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, spread his wings. And the fact that Dame

681
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: has never talked about the shit, and if he has

682
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: talked about it, he's always talked about being loyal to

683
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: the soil, still is loyal to the soil. But the

684
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: fact that he's even entertaining other ideas. I think that's

685
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: all the signs of Portland need to, like, respectfully, like,

686
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: you've been amazing. We're gonna hang your jersey up here.

687
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: You're one of our all time Portland Trailblazers. But we

688
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: want you, we want you to finish your your your

689
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: your the rest of your years in another spot that can.

690
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Possibly, yes, But let me let me ask mister DeMarcus Cousins,

691
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: is it your experience the teams do generous wonderful things.

692
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: What's best for the player at their own expense, because

693
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: I do not see any NBA franchise but what they But.

694
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: Can they trade for him?

695
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: Right?

696
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: They could make a trade, like make trades.

697
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Right, But who are you getting?

698
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: You're getting quick A youth movement, a youth movement, and

699
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: it to me, I mean, obviously a Sacramento organization is

700
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: a lot different now. But you can't compare Portland to Sacramento,

701
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean as far.

702
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Just saying Sacramento. But you play for a bunch of teams, Matt,

703
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: You played for a bunch of teams.

704
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was never a superstar though, you know, like.

705
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Did you see the team putting the player's best interest

706
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: above their own team building for the next five years?

707
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: They trade Damian Lillard, they got to answer to all

708
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: those Blazers fans.

709
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: What about you can't get picks and and all? Like

710
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: I said, like the it's TAM's run out there.

711
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: I don't think obviously that's not a common thing in

712
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: the NBA, where you know, they look out for the

713
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: interests of the player. But just knowing the issue between

714
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: Dame and poor Linn and their long last relationship I

715
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: do think they'll, you know, kind of grant his way,

716
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: and I hope you'll in Miami knowing they have Hero,

717
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: knowing they have three first round picks, I think I

718
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: think they'll be happy with that. You get a hero,

719
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: you draft a guy like Schoove Henderson or you know,

720
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: it's a lot of talent in his draft. You got

721
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: a foundation moving forward, you got a hero, you got school,

722
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be.

723
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: I think I think you got something moving forward.

724
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I always ask, though, when you're trading a guy like

725
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: Dame for picks, it is because you hope one of

726
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: those picks will turn into eventually maybe a Damian Lillard.

727
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: You have Dave Lillard, right, but you know you can't

728
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: do nothing with him though.

729
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: The other thing that's complicated about Dame is he makes

730
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year.

731
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: That's a lot of motherfucking money, so.

732
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: Good Trading him is also a little bit of a

733
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: complicated dance because that team has to be able to

734
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: absorb his salary and for him to actually be in

735
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: a better situation as opposed to not just be like

736
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: again the loan superstar somewhere where we've seen that's not

737
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: quite enough he's got to have a co star who

738
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: will be making a lot of money. I mean, it's

739
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: just it's it's copkn It's deep.

740
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's deep. I hope it works out.

741
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, no for sure, and by the way, where

742
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: it works out with him on the Blazer still, I mean,

743
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: I just you want him to find some success either way. Sixers,

744
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: James Harden, how hard you working to keep him? Buggy?

745
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: I think you have to because what other option do

746
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: you have?

747
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: Because if you lose James, then I think you have

748
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: to start thinking about blowing things up because going to

749
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: what's going to replace that production? What's on a match

750
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: up with MB's timeline, the other core pieces been around it, Like,

751
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: I think, I think you have to. If not, it's

752
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 4: gonna be troubling, Uh.

753
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: Paradise.

754
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, what's What's so? Harden is a is a

755
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: restrict unrestricted free agent?

756
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: Does he have a player options? He's just out He's

757
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: gonna But.

758
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think you go hard on him,

759
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: but you also got to think, boogie is it is

760
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: it not time to cut Tyrese Maxi free and really

761
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 2: allow him to not not let him go, but allow

762
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: him to like really be the guy. I mean, he

763
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: proved he can do it in the playoffs, He's done

764
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: it in the regular season. He's young. I think he's

765
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: next in line obviously. You know, James is a twenty

766
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: and ten guy now and shows you at times he

767
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: can do more. But do you break the bank for him?

768
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: Is the question? How many years do you give him

769
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: as is another question. H I've never heard it come

770
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: out of James's mouth, but everyone's saying there's possibilities in

771
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: Phoenix or Houston. So where is his heart at? You know,

772
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: he went to college in Arizona, and you know Houston

773
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: is He's nice on and off the court out there,

774
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see. You know, like I said,

775
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: the the the years and the amount of money, I'm.

776
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Just gonna let all of that pass and move on

777
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: to the next team. Miami Heat. We're just talking about them.

778
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry is said to make twenty nine million dollars

779
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: next year, Dunke Robinson eighteen million. So you can keep them,

780
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: you can trade them. I have to think they're gonna

781
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: try to move Duncan.

782
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: Can you move Kyle? As great as Kyle Lowry was,

783
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: he's just in a with all due respect. He'll be

784
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: thirty eight next year making that kind of money.

785
00:36:50,719 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 4: Can it at.

786
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: Once Dame leaves to mentor the younger guys.

787
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: He'll be a grave veteran for the.

788
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: You can't play golf in Oregon year round the way

789
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: you can in Miami. I don't know how Kyle's going.

790
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: To take bad money. He could build some indoor shit.

791
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, knowing he'll figure it out. He'll figure out I think.

792
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: You know, obviously, Duncan Robinson one of the premier shooters

793
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: and he just needs time and opportunity. That the amount

794
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: he's making. I'm never going to talk about no one's money.

795
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: But he did a good job. You know, he went

796
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: in there with no mask on and and got that

797
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: money from them, you know, so that's great, But I

798
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: would you know, I'm sure there's a ton of teams

799
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: that would they would take him. I mean again, he's

800
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: one of the best shooters in the game, and he

801
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: just needed time. You saw he went, he didn't play

802
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: pretty much at all during the regular season. Then when

803
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: he was called upon in the playoffs, he stepped up

804
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: and did what he was supposed to do. But he's

805
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: not someone that's going to be a twenty to twenty

806
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: two point a game score based off the money you

807
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: give him. But he can definitely be a guy that

808
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: can change momentum, you know, twelve to fifteen points if

809
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: he has the right opportunities.

810
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's people who are mentioning Kyrie's name

811
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: with that team this.

812
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: Morning, Miami. Yeah.

813
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: Oh, those might be Kyrie's agents. I don't know. You

814
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: mentioned the Warriors the Draymond question, right, So Draymond has

815
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: a player option, and when I talked to him after

816
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the Warrior's season it ended, he said, He's like, we

817
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: haven't talked about it at all. He's like I At

818
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: one point, he said, a month or two ago he

819
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: tried to have a conversation with Rich Paul, like, Okay,

820
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: what do you think we should do? What should we do?

821
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: And Rich was like, I refuse to speak to you

822
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: about this while you're still playing. We got plenty of

823
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: times talk about it. Once the season is over. I

824
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: don't get I'm not getting into it. So he's like,

825
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: I promise you, I haven't any decisions because my own

826
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: agent won't even talk to me about it. But he's

827
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: got to decide does he pick up the player option,

828
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: does he opt out and try to do a new

829
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: deal with the Warriors. Does he put himself out on

830
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: the market. You're very close to him, and yeah.

831
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know anything, just like no one

832
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: else knows anything. But if I'm just thinking Draymond, I mean,

833
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: obviously you think there was some attractive things outside of

834
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: the Warriors that sounded cool, you know, Lakers playing with

835
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: Lebron or them going to Dallas. There's there's some stuff

836
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: that sounds cool. But I just think for his legacy,

837
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do, what he's meant for

838
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: that organization, how close he and Steph are, how another

839
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: year probably under their bell will hopefully mend the relationship,

840
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: because you're hearing that the Golden State's not actively looking

841
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: to move pool. Hopefully they can mend that relationship over

842
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 2: the summer. I think dra opts out and takes less

843
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: money for more years, So I think he'll do a

844
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: three year for I don't know what the number, maybe

845
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: sixty millions, you know, seventy million for three years something

846
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: like that. So obviously they'll be less money per year,

847
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: but stretch those years out and just see what you

848
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: have with this. You know, these three core guys until

849
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: it's time just to say Okay, it's it's over.

850
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: I agree with Matn you you got to find a

851
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: way to let these guys right off on the I said,

852
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 4: they've been the foundation for this organization.

853
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: They literally made it.

854
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: Took this organization from being about worth four hundred million

855
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: to about seven billion dollars.

856
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 3: The core guy.

857
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, just that right along. You should figure out a

858
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: way to let these guys ride on. They should not

859
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: have to uplift their families, They should not have to

860
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 4: address to a new organization. They shouldn't have to find

861
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: a city that's fitting for them. Lets you be able

862
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: to ride off in the sunset in the Golden State

863
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: uniform until they decide to ain't get their sneakers. That's

864
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: how much value they brought to this franchise.

865
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: It's a great part.

866
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: A year by year contract still doesn't match up to

867
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: what they turned this entire franchise into it. So it's

868
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: literally a global brand because of these guys.

869
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: So you have to.

870
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: Figure out Kobe, right, Absolutely, you have to figure it out.

871
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: You have to, and I mean I think book, I

872
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 2: mean we talked about it earlier. I mean not saying

873
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: that their way of the game is leaving, but it's

874
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: it's also changable. I think they changed the trajectory of

875
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 2: basketball as basketball has been played the last ten ten years,

876
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you can never put

877
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: a dollar amount on that for any of those three plays.

878
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: So they've been able to put a good dollar mount

879
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: on Steph, but as far as right, and it's still

880
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: not worth Like like you said, they went from a

881
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: three four hundred million dollar team to six billion, seven billions,

882
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: so you can never pay them what they're worth. But yeah,

883
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: I definitely agree, they got to They got to keep

884
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: these cores until I think it would be dope if

885
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: they just all three retired at the same time or

886
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: close to the same time. Like, hey man, it's been cool,

887
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: like another three years, four years, mid thirties, We're going

888
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: to live the rest of our lives. We've got the

889
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: whole Silicon Valley and investments like this fuck around and

890
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: run to run the business world. Now.

891
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Steph told me he wants to play

892
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: as long as his dad did at least, which was

893
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: into like I think thirty eight or something, so well.

894
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: He's Steph's like thirty thirty five isn't.

895
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: He is he thirty five the other movie, they yeah,

896
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: right there, there you go, you got it, boom boom

897
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: with that Clay extensions on the horizon too, So they

898
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: do have questions. I thought Bob Myers leaving might influence

899
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the Draymond thing a little bit because he was Dre's

900
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: biggest champion. But I saw I was at the final

901
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: press conference for the Warrior when they got knocked out

902
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, Steph made a point of lobbying for

903
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Draymond continuing on the team, and you saw that Clay

904
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: made a point of saying it. So I think they.

905
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: I think management, even if Bob's not in that chair,

906
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: management knows it's not just a decision about Draymond or

907
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: his deal, it's about your other two guys and how

908
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: they're going to react.

909
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: And I think that was maybe Bob's last act maybe

910
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, obviously it's not publicized, but that, you know,

911
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: let's just make sure we take care of Draymond and

912
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: obviously Clay's extension coming up. And then you know, it's

913
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: been a good run because it has been well.

914
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Now that we've solved all of the problems of all

915
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: the teams around the NBA, which I really appreciate for us.

916
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Let's get on the radar presented by DraftKings. Look only

917
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: sportsbook you need, and the season is done. But DraftKings,

918
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: because they're on top of things, they already have next

919
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: season's championship os out there. Crazy, not shockingly, as you

920
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: guys both said, the champions get you know, first t

921
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So they're the favorites plus five hundred.

922
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Who do you think is next? You don't look at

923
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: the screen, give you a guess. Boston nice plus five fifty,

924
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: right behind them, right, Bucks at plus six fifty, Suns

925
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: after that at plus eight fifty, Lakers at plus twelve hundred,

926
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: Warriors at plus twelve hundred, six Ers at plus thirteen hundred,

927
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: MAVs at plus thirteen hundred, which is a stunning bout

928
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: of optimism.

929
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: That's how you really feel.

930
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but they didn't make the playoffs. I don't

931
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: think we're talking about them for a title next year

932
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: unless they make some big changes. Look, who knows who

933
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: they bring in. I'm a preserving judgment obviously, and I

934
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: think that team has potential. But let's not put them

935
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: in a title conversation as constructed at the moment. Do

936
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: you think the Celtics are the biggest sort of threat

937
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: to the Nuggets next year or do you think I

938
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I think the Suns are a little bit

939
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: of a dark horse, depending on who they get this summer.

940
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you.

941
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 4: The Signs are a dark horse because just along with

942
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: their two man guys, you put pretty much anything around it,

943
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: they're gonna be contenders.

944
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: So obviously they're a dark horse.

945
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: But I mean with Boston and them being a title contented,

946
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: it all falls on what they decided to do with

947
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: Jaylen Brown.

948
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: If the odd guard, that's.

949
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: Kind of leaning towards Jayalen Brown being themselves with uniform

950
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: next year. So if that's the case, with the team constructed,

951
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: I think they got a chance.

952
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: I think, uh yeah, I mean I liked well, I

953
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: think everyone liked Boss in this entire year. I think

954
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: we underestimated how good ema U Doka was.

955
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: Though.

956
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: This is the one thing I'll say is obviously, and

957
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: it's so players got to play, and there were times

958
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: where Tatum struggled, Brown struggled. They struggled together. They're both great.

959
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: They're both great separately. Joe Mizzoula, it was a learning

960
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: year for him because I feel like, and I say

961
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: with all the respect, I think it's going to be

962
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: a good young coach. He was getting taken to school

963
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: a lot of the playoffs with his decision making and

964
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: inability to adjust on the fly and all that kind

965
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: of stuff. So I think, you know, obviously they thought, man,

966
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: this team is so good, we're gonna risk email and

967
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: let him go and we can just hire him and

968
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna and and and it didn't work like that.

969
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: So talent wise, I think they got a lot of talent.

970
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: I would love to see if they can, you know, again,

971
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: if if Marcus Smart happens to be the guy that

972
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: they may sacrifice to shake things up. No, like I said,

973
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: I like Marcus Smart, but I think something needs to

974
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: be shook up. And again, a ton of teams would

975
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: take Marcus Smart, but if he's the one guy that

976
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: can possibly shake that roster up and bring some some

977
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: fresh blood in there. But yeah, I still like Boston

978
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: even if Marcus Smart returns. But I just think, you know,

979
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Jonazula needs to you know, get studying this summer because

980
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: I think, again, great potential coach. But he definitely we

981
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: saw his hand a lot in the playoffs.

982
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: Well, look, I've said this before. I was in Florida

983
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: when Eric Spolscher was first starting as a head coach,

984
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: and he may.

985
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: Mistay everyone's going to everyone's going to.

986
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Now we consider him one of the best tacticians in

987
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: the game. So you know, I think I think you

988
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: got to give Joe Mizzoula that room. What about Milwaukee, DeMarcus,

989
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: what do you where do you put them in?

990
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 3: This man?

991
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: For some reason, Milwaukee just kind of became a forgotten team.

992
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you have you know, Janni's and building

993
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: around that the foundation, but I think this year coming

994
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: up will be a decision for Gianni's with.

995
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: What he wants to do with his future.

996
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: And obviously don't know the timeline and timeline and his uh,

997
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: his deal, but.

998
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: I definitely think if they're.

999
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: Not a team contending or you know, in the finals

1000
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: this year, this becomes you know, where's my next destiny?

1001
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: Imagine him leaving Holy Ship.

1002
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: Well that's why, that's why you never know who's going

1003
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: to become available in the summer. Like, okay, so here

1004
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: are the free agents that we know of this summer. Right,

1005
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: You've got James Harden, Kyrie Porzinga, US Chris Middleton. While

1006
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: we're talking to Miami, He's got a player option, Dre

1007
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Mom we just talked about has a player option, right,

1008
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, Who do you think is the most attractive

1009
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: guy if he were in the market for free agent?

1010
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: Who would you want to go get of that group?

1011
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: Are you getting a cut? He's getting a cut?

1012
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: This promo is phrase, But nah, I think obviously the

1013
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: only when I look at that list, it's only one

1014
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: guy that that's literally a game changer. And I'm gonna

1015
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: say that's Kyrie r A and and I think Chris

1016
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: Middleton is a great piece to any championship team. But

1017
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: the biggest game changer on our list is Kyrie IRV.

1018
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 4: So I'm picking him as you know, the biggest free

1019
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 4: agent of it.

1020
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely especially I don't know, like I said, we've never

1021
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: we never wont insinuator or trying to figure out what

1022
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: he's thinking. But I just think like he hears the

1023
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: noise and he wants to and he showed it times

1024
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: last year, like don't forget who I am as a player.

1025
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: You know, I may march to my own drum off

1026
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: the court, but I'm one of the baddest dudes ever

1027
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: to you know, put the ball in his hand, So

1028
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: I think he it just looks like that's on his mind.

1029
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: You see him out working with kids a lot more

1030
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 2: in the summer. That's something he probably got from Cobe.

1031
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: Cobe was doing that, so you see him pouring in

1032
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: and spending a lot of time. So I think, you know,

1033
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: the Kyrie that everyone loved, that the amazing, incredible basketball player.

1034
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: I think hopefully it looks like that is kind of

1035
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: coming back to one of the top priorities. And if

1036
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: that's the case, like like Buogie said, he is a

1037
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: franchise changer.

1038
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: Although I do think for him Nico Harrison being there

1039
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: and Jason Kidd, who I mean, Kyrie Irving went to

1040
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Jason Kidds Hall of Fame induction on his own because

1041
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: he was just such a big Jason Kidd fan and

1042
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: wanted to go pay some respects and show some love.

1043
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: Like that shows the relationship there and the respect that

1044
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: he has for j Kid. So to me, Kyrie, when

1045
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: he has these moments where some of his off the

1046
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: court stuff threatens to eclipse the on the court stuff,

1047
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a better front office coaching duo

1048
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: for him than the two people who he can really trust,

1049
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: who know him and know how to sort of talk

1050
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to him in a way that they understand each other.

1051
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: I just it's gonna be interesting to see if he

1052
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: stays there.

1053
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Does Dallas have any wiggle room too, if they do

1054
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: give him what he wants or what he's looking for

1055
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 2: to move or get anybody.

1056
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: It's really tough. I mean, they're in a tough spot.

1057
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: They may they have backed themselves into some difficult positions

1058
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: with the brunts and decision, the trade that they made

1059
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: for Kyrie, what they gave up like, it's been a

1060
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: tough It's a tough roster there.

1061
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: To tell them if they end up signing Kyrie, just

1062
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: to call me about Nas. I'll see if we can

1063
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: get him over.

1064
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: There, right the agency over here. Do but come back

1065
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico soon. Please. I know you've got a

1066
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: championship to win out there. I know y'all are marching

1067
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: through getting ready for getting ready for some serious playoff action,

1068
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: but please come home soon. We miss you absolutely.

1069
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: I planned on it.

1070
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, Well, thank y'all. This wraps up what's

1071
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: vernon for the season. Available every week on Showtime Basketball, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

1072
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: We'll be showing some clips and stuff out there, but

1073
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: we'll be back when the NBA is back, well, you know,

1074
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: summer League, but that's different. No one's ever off around here,

1075
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: all right. See y'll