WEBVTT - ADAM ANDERS & NIKKI ANDERS: "Journey To Bethlehem" 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.320 Hello, my friend. Welcome to love someone with Delilah. The 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:14.280 rain has been coming down ooh at my farm. I've 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:19.640 got a skylight in my hallway upstairs, and when it rains, 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.680 it sounds like music on the skylight. I go stand 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.840 under it just to listen to it. And I've started 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.480 flipping lights on in the house when we get up 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.680 on school mornings because it's still a little dark outside. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:40.160 Sure signs that summer's gone her merry way and beautiful 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:44.120 autumn has taken her place. We know too that this 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.240 visit will only be too brief, as old man Winner 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.159 will want his turn soon. What is the weather like 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.080 in your little corner of the world. Some areas still 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.880 experiencing some heat. Are you pulling on rain boots when 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.960 you head out to do chore? Do you do chores? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.320 Have you been affected by any of the hurricanes and 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:11.280 all the water they bring? Whatever Mother Nature is doling out, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.720 I hope you can look upon it with wonder and 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.479 a little bit of awe. I hope you teach your 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.240 young kids or grandkids to go dance in the rain. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.600 My bushels of mums on the front porch are bright 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.080 little beacons of fall. Splendor, the pumpkins that are ripe 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.199 in the garden, and glorious gourds I've piled up. I've 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:39.360 been canning pickles and relish apple sauce and great jam 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.080 canning and preserving the last of the garden goodness. And 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:47.680 my chickens have been helping me car a few Jacka Lannards. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.720 What a fun trend that is? Did that on social media? 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.840 So many things to look forward to in the coming months. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.480 And on this episode of Love Someone, my guests are 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.480 going to tell us about something coming soon for the 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:06.560 holiday season that is really exciting. Adam Anders is a 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.359 four time Grammy nominee, two time People's Choice Award winner. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.239 For many years, he served as the executive music producer 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:20.560 of Glee. He sold over one hundred million records and 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.799 worked with artist ranging from the Jonas Brothers and Miley 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.880 Cyrus to Andy Grammer and c low Green. His music 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.840 has been heard in film productions like High School Musical, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:37.959 The Wedding Planner, Captain Underpants, and Rock of Ages. Look 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.200 up this name again. His name is Adam Anders, and 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.480 you'll see his writing and directing credits just goes on 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.080 and on and on and on. Movies, music projects, TV. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.240 He is joined today by award winning recording artist and 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:58.000 songwriter Nicky Anders, who can also brag about her production 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.359 skills as well as being a record in mute Uzig 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.880 Publishing company owner. Nicky has written, performed, or produced for 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:10.240 many major motion pictures and television shows including Glee, Hannah, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:15.320 Montana High School Musical Three, The Jonas Brothers films, Camp 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.760 Rock and Camp Rock two, along with a lot of 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.560 other hits too many to list. Her songs have sold 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:26.000 over twenty five million records for Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.480 Demmy Lovado, Backstreet Boys, Clay Aiken, Chryl Crowe, just to 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.000 name a few. Most recently, her time has been dedicated 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.120 to Golden Globe winning TV series Glee, where her voice 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.760 is the secret weapon for music producer and husband Adam 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.920 Anders when recreating each song and as a mentor and 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.560 vocal producer on the Glee project. They are here with 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.560 us today to share the news of an upcoming Christmas movie. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.880 Adam and Nicky both co wrote and Adam directed, produced, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.480 and created music for the greatest story ever told, that 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.480 of the Birth of Jesus of Nazareth in the Journey 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:08.000 to Bethlehem. It'll be in theaters beginning November tenth. I 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.720 got a sneak peek, a sneak preview of this movie. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.520 My kids and I watched it. I was so thrilled 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.320 with it. It's the first musical it is. It would 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.800 be so beautiful on stage. I hope they turn it 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.960 into a musical recounting Mary and Joseph's journey, and our 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:29.520 entire family was mesmeriz from start to finish. It has 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:35.480 some really incredible talent Fiona Palomo, Milo Mannheim, Joel Smallbone 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.039 from one of our favorite musical groups for King, and 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:45.440 country singer rapper Lacree, and Academy Award nominee Antonio Banderas 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.160 portraying the evil King herod Ooh, he was brilliant. I 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.080 can't wait to dive into this conversation with Adam and 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.760 Nikki Anders, but first let me spend a few minutes 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.880 telling you about one of today's podcast sponsors, Better Help. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:05.480 This podcast is sponsored by Better Help. Do you ever 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.840 find that just as you're trying to fall asleep, your 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.480 brain suddenly starts working over time? Do your thoughts start 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.919 racing right before bed or at other inopportune moments. 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That was George Clooney. When 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.680 George Clune and he broke up with this so far 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.880 off and left er. That was it for me. That 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.200 was my last well that didn't see Yeah, my last 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.920 pop crushes. But since I have twelve daughters, I have 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.640 gone through a lot, a lot of pulp pop culture. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.880 Hyper Do you actually have twelve. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.040 Daughters I have. I have eight daughters and my husband 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.360 has four daughters. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.280 Oh my, we only have two boys. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.360 Get to work. What are you guys doing work? 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.120 Yeah, you're like our core audience. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.400 Then you can fill my whole family. And we do, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.920 and we do. We used to have a theater that 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.720 was like a mile from my house, and anytime something 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.360 amazing was coming out, like the movie we're about to 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.200 talk about, they would rent the theater to do a 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.600 preview for me, which was very sweet, and the film 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.119 company would buy me popcorn and I would say, Okay, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.760 I'm going to bring a few people, and their popcorn 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.440 bill would be like, you know, thousands of dollars. They're like, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.880 what the heck I said? I told you I was 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.880 bringing my family They're like, how many how many are 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.400 in your family? I said, well, I have fifteen kids 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:19.320 and my husband has five. So you do the math. Yeah, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:19.720 you the. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.080 Difference between going number one or number two, Like, if 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.320 your family goes then it's. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.880 Number one exactly exactly. But this movie is going to 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.720 be number one anyway. We're talking about a new movie 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.960 that is coming out next month, Journey to Bethlehem, And 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.439 I got a sneak preview. The movie theater is closed, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.760 and so I I did. We watched it here in 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.560 the basement of my house on a drop down screen, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.960 and I wish that we were in the movie theater 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.120 because if we had been in the movie theater, all 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:56.800 of my kids would have been up dancing to the songs. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:57.960 there are something that happens. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:58.959 We hope that up. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.520 There are some fun songs in Journey to Bethlham. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:03.160 Thank you. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.160 So what made this project something? You guys said, yes, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.680 this is this is where our passions are going to be. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.800 How first off, when did you start filming? 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.839 We started filming in February first, I think was the 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.840 first day of shooting this year. But it's been in 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.800 the works for a very long time. I had the 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:26.520 idea originally, I don'tant to date myself. Like years ago 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.600 six Nicky's from Iowa. We were home visiting for Christmas 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.960 and I couldn't find anything to watch, and I don't 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.600 know why. It hit me that I thought, Wow, nobody's 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.280 done a musical of Nativity. That'd be cool. And I 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.320 sat down that Christmas and wrote the first eleven page treatment, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.160 which had a lot of the song ideas and everything 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.880 in it. And then, you know, life got in the way, 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.840 and there's been ups and downs and trying to make 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.760 it sold. It didn't get made back, you know, just 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.640 been crazy. And then during COVID kind of got new 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.440 clarity and wrote a new version of the script and 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.960 decided to direct it. And then it's just like boom, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.120 off we went and next thing I knew, I moved 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.000 to Spain and we started shooting this thing. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.000 So this is a baby that took seventeen years too, 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:14.199 this is our oldest child. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:19.319 Yeah, it's been really painful birth, really painful. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.960 So Nikki, it sounds like you've been there for every 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.800 step of the way. When did you say, I gotta 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.320 do this too, I gotta I gotta lend my voice. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.880 I gotta lend my words. I gotta, we gotta do 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.160 this as a team, as a family, because it's a 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:35.240 family movie. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:36.439 It is a family movie. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:41.880 It's a family story about the greatest family got ever 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.480 wove together, created by a family. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:47.760 Yeah. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:48.560 I love that. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:50.720 It's really crazy. You know. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.720 We actually have worked together for almost our entire release. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.079 Our first date was writing a song together. That gives 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:57.760 you any idea? 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.920 Wait, wait, which song? Which song? Do we know it? 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.480 It was probably terrible. We fought the whole time, I think, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.400 but I don't know if that. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.600 It was probably on my soul ever came out. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.440 I think it was Adore You from the wedding planner. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.720 I think it was you wrote a Nanai adore You 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.120 song on your first date. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.880 I thought that's a. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.360 Really good point on your first date. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.000 Well yeah, because it's all fresh and I'm like, wow, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.840 you're cute and you run a door you song. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.200 I'm not ready for love yet, but you're ready for adoration. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.199 Adoration. Yeah, that's a good thing. I met my husband 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.640 at the gym, and he never saw me with my 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.319 hair combed or makeup on for the first six months 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:46.400 of our friendship, like he saw me a relationship at 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.320 my absolute least attractive, But it was good because we 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.360 got to know each other. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:53.600 I believe in that. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.319 I believe in putting your worst out there first because 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.199 that's what you can get through the worst, then you're 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:00.360 definitely gonna enjoy best. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.400 Well. I think that's a good way to get to 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.560 know each other. But also writing a song is a 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.280 pretty good way to figure out. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.760 So now you've written a song, you've written a movie, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:15.400 you've produced a movie, and what was something this film 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.600 taught you? Like something you didn't know either about the 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:26.440 story the greatest story ever told, or about your connection 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.640 to it when you started this seventeen years ago. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.840 I think it taught me that making movies is really hard. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.000 It's not for the faint of heart. But I think 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.640 it also for me personally. I just I fell in 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.160 love with directing and making movies. So it was a 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.480 really personal journey for me and just kind of changing careers. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.720 But I think for both of us, you know, we 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.960 we relate to Mary and Joseph, you know, as a couple, 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.120 and it's kind of fun writing a musical about a 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.760 couple when you're a couple, and it makes it very 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:05.120 personal and human, and it was an interesting thing for 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.920 us to explore. You know, everybody knows Mary and Joseph 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.560 ended up together in the story in the Bible, but 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.720 why was it for love or for duty? And we 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.240 wanted to explore that through this musical and kind tell 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.200 the original Rome and Juliet if you will. So that 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.720 was really appealing and fun for me as. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.679 The female perspective here. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.240 I feel like, you know, you had I had to 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.720 really think and deeply about what Mary was going through 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.559 at that because she was a human being, well at least, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.160 and she had feelings, and. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.680 She had family, and she living in a time at. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.960 Which it was not an easy thing to show up 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.400 pregnant to your fiance. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.040 Yeah, the stakes were high. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:55.840 The stakes were high, and yet uh, I loved this 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.320 was probably my favorite aspect of the movie. You didn't 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.960 waiver from that truth that she knew that she knew 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:07.200 that she knew that this was divine, that she was 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.320 carrying Messiah. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.320 You know, Yeah, I love that you say that. I 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.880 think a big thing for us was married to us 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.720 would have been strong. She would have been the strongest 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.400 girl God could find for this task. She wouldn't have 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.760 been a dormat. She would have had a POV and 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.120 that probably wasn't very popular then, but I think that's 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.960 what made her stand out and made her right for 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.320 the job, if you will. So that was fun for 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.040 us too because it's a very modern, you know, very 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.480 modern story. There's so many truths in this story that 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.960 you can relate to today. So in that being that 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.040 she was, I mean, you imagine how alone she must 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.840 have felt in that time. So it's very emotional too, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.040 And we. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.680 Also try to stay very true to the scripture as well. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.640 I mean it's much I don't think there's not a 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.360 lot written from Mary's point of view in the Bible, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.640 but what we could get we stayed one hundred percent 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.080 true to. But there's you know a lot of things 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.240 in her mind that would never be able to be known. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.000 So that's where our deep dive would take place. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.320 In the creative License, it's in the in betweens as 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.120 we call it. You have the scripture verses, Well, what 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:21.880 happened in between? 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:22.720 What would I think? 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.160 I mean, if my family's legacy and their reputation was 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.400 on the line and it was all on my shoulders 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.520 as a human being, what would I I'd be crying 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.200 out to God, just like I need God because that's 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.360 the only person that I have. It's the only thing 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.400 that I have that can sustain me. So her personal 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.600 journey is pretty powerful, I think. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.160 And then Joseph, who you know should have stoned her 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.920 like you said, and definitely should have ended the marriage. Instead, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.920 he ended up standing by her side and taking, if 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.440 you will, her stain upon him and saying, this is 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.360 my child that we had out of wedlock. You know, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:56.960 it's a pretty amazing love story. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.080 Well, and I love the fact that you show him 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.840 being kind of ambivalent. Mary never was. But you know, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.720 the angel came to her first. Your angel, by the way, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:14.560 he is hysterical. My kids were, look, Cray was cracking 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:19.040 my kids up so much. Oh that was that was 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.040 very well written and very well acted. And the song 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:27.600 everything was so sweet, so glorious and yet tongue in 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:33.400 cheek and fun at the same time. But but the 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.080 angel didn't appear to Joseph right away. He had a 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.080 little time to try to digest this, and you showed 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:49.200 his ambivalence and his being torn, so torn until you know, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:54.520 God's like, no, dude, She's not kidding, dude, She's not kidding. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.040 She's not making this up. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.080 There was something interesting about the idea that he wanted 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:03.920 to believe her for something in him said, you need 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.359 to believe her even though everything in the world is 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.840 saying walk away. And I think we can relate to that. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.520 I think we've all had probably relationships where your family, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.320 everybodys saying this is not the right person for you, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.920 you need somebody else, or whatever. But you know there's 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.399 something about this person, You're meant for, this person, you 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:21.560 should be with that person. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.520 Wait, wait, wait, did anybody come against you two when 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.560 you when you were writing songs together? 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.520 Confession session happens when you write a script, your own 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.920 life ends up being poured into the pages. We definitely had. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.880 We fell in love and were planning our wedding within 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.000 two weeks, and that took almost four years to get 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.080 married because life got in the way. But you know, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.760 and people talking and people talking, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.040 for sure. I think we've probably all experienced it on 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:49.520 some level. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.879 And I love that you had Mary grabbing him and saying, Okay, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:53.919 you're marrying me. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.919 Yeah, yeah, I'll probably get some crap for that, but 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.080 I just saw it's so cute. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.280 It was very cut. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.760 Yeah, and yeah, it's it's it's really fun when she 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:05.119 does that. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.919 But I love that that little thing where you know, 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.919 they chose to trust God instead of trusting what the 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:13.560 world was saying. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.359 Yeah, I think they took a step of faith. You know, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.840 I think we all need to do that in our lives. Now. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.880 That wasn't a step of faith. That was stepping off 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:32.560 the Grand Canyon kind of step of faith. Okay, Antonio 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.680 Banderas and what was that like working with him? 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:41.520 He is brilliant. You know. I had him in my 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.719 sights for a long time and it was funny how 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.399 it all came together. He was very busy directing a play, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.280 actually a son time play, and he didn't even want 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.200 to be bothered with this because he was so focused. 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.439 But I just knew I need somebody who can sing, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.400 first of all, because his Herod's song you heard it 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:56.280 is really difficult. 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.439 Yeah, Herod's song for me, that was of all the 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:04.399 music that was that was the highlight. It was so good. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.119 So he's so amazing. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:07.119 He's so amazing. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.800 Say, everyone's singing every note in this movie, and I 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.880 wanted it that way. And Antonio's song is the most challenging, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.240 and even he thought, I can't sing this, and I'm like, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.440 I know you can sing it. I've seen him fan 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.720 of the opera and everything else, so I had it 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.840 took some convincing, so I'd go to his play in 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.840 Madrid and kind of keep showing up until he talked 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.159 to me. And then he loved the script and then 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.679 he liked the song, and then I convinced him that 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.439 he could sing it, and man, did he sing it, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.280 and he just committed. He's a very religious man, very 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.480 strong Catholic, and he has loved the story and he 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.960 just embodied this character like I couldn't believe. I mean, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:43.920 he made a page. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.960 Come alive, boy, didn't he though? Herod's never looked so 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.240 deviously wonderful. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.240 And he switches on a dime from evil to just 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.520 like childish and he's really brilliant. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:01.480 And yeah, yeah, that for me. And I think that 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.840 you know, when you go to Christmas productions, when you 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.360 see the Nativity story, that is is absent. I've never 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.439 seen it. I mean I've gone to the Roquettes for 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.160 years and years and years and seen the living Nativity. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:19.560 They never mentioned that here it is, you know, out 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.719 to to make sure his throne is not disrupted. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.520 He was very insecure and history shows it. You know, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.960 he killed everybody that he thought might be a threat 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.720 to his throne, including his family. He was a very 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.840 evil man. And I thought it was just this story 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.560 just had everything built in. You know, you have your 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.000 love story, you have your villain, and then you have 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.080 your comic relief from me with the Wiseman. They gave 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.119 me that device, which is super fun to play with 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:48.720 as well, because you need comedy. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.080 It's a merror What is murder? 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:58.639 The way like in Sunday School? Like, what is mrr? Like? 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.840 I don't know what this is? 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.800 You can't say mrr though, you got to say it now. 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.000 For the rest of my life, say mror. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.800 He knows what we're talking about. You will soon en. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.040 Yeah, once you go see Journey to Bethlehem, everybody in 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:22.720 America will be saying what is murr? It was fun 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.360 and it was something that I loved sharing with my family. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:28.320 Oh that's what we wanted. 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:29.320 We had like I. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.520 Think they were six. Five boys have loved it too. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:34.240 How old are they? 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.840 So we've got an eleven year old and a fourteen 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:37.240 year old? 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.800 Oh and eleven year olds and fourteen year olds don't 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.040 love really anything. 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:42.560 They hate everything. 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:43.560 They hate everything. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.080 Yeah, yeah, you know, it was really awesome having them 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.560 though along the way because we've been able to make 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.040 a musical that boys love too. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:52.680 Yeah. 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:56.360 It's a very it's very targeted, I think towards I mean, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.560 it's got the love story for the girls, and you're 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:04.800 Mary is gorgeous and sweet and sassy and confident. I've 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.280 also never seen Mary portrayed as somebody the way you 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.080 did in the beginning, as an intellectual who wanted to 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.920 reject the whole notion of an arranged marriage. 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.960 And the way we handle the massacre of the incident. 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:17.440