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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? It's your girl? To Rica

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Speaker 2: Foster Rasby.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Is your girls?

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Speaker 2: Cheryl Swoops, Hey, it's levels to this. Okay, this is

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Speaker 2: the show where we talk about all the levels to

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Speaker 2: the shit that women go through. And we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a fun show, but a real show today because we

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Speaker 2: it's some real shit that's been going on in the

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Speaker 2: world and we need to address it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, I don't even think it should be

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Speaker 1: the levels different levels to the shit that women go

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Speaker 1: through right now. It's just the levels of the shit

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Speaker 1: that we as human beings, as American y'all god, are

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Speaker 1: going through.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous at this point, Like, I don't even know

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Speaker 2: where to start, but I'm gonna tell you where I'm

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Speaker 2: about to start.

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Speaker 1: What what.

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Speaker 2: Don't say, well, don't say what like that shell?

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, y'all can't see her face, But the way

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Speaker 1: you looked at me, I was like, what, what where

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Speaker 1: are you about? To start.

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Speaker 2: Let it start with you. How's your week? Ben? What

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Speaker 2: is what's new or old? Like that shirt?

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Speaker 1: Watch your mouth. We're gonna get to the shirt. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the shirt. But damn, twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: is twenty twenty six in.

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Speaker 2: Easy instantly, instantly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before it even got here, it was already twenty six, Yes, yeah, instantly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I told you earlier. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm just in a a I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to call it a funk. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is t but I'm in it, do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 2: So that leads me to my shirt.

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Speaker 1: First of all, yes, it's old as I don't know what,

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Speaker 1: but it's like my fing But don't act like you

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Speaker 1: don't have old ship at home that you're like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting rid of this. I'm wearing this just because

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's like my most comfortable T shirt.

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Speaker 1: And yes it's not a recording a podcast type of

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Speaker 1: T shirt, but I am at home, I am in

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Speaker 1: my she shit, I can do whatever the I want to.

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Speaker 2: Do that and that's just at the top like the

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Speaker 2: other ones do.

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Speaker 1: And it's so comfortable. So my mind in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm putting this on because I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be on my sofa all day to day in my house.

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Speaker 1: It's a little cold, it's windy, and this is my

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Speaker 1: shirt for that. But seriously, I'm a serious.

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Speaker 2: Note.

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Speaker 1: They can't see it, but you can see.

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Speaker 2: You see all.

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Speaker 1: So this is like a fist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's brown, it's black, it's white, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Like a basketball.

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Speaker 1: It's basketball, but it's a fist. Yeah, And it's more

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Speaker 1: of a we all, all of us. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the color of our skin is. We all need

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Speaker 1: to come together as one and figure this ship out.

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Speaker 1: And that's another reason why I'm like, I ain't getting

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Speaker 1: rid of the shirt, because yeah, I got and I

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Speaker 1: do have holes in places that that that I don't

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Speaker 1: need to show you.

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Speaker 2: It's too late for me.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna lead, We're gonna leave those holes where they are.

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Speaker 2: I have already seen them, so you know. But for

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Speaker 2: the auto, it's comfortable. It looks like a comfortable shirt.

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Speaker 2: I have some shirts too that are about as old

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Speaker 2: as Methusla, so it's cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have I didn't get all glammed

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Speaker 2: All I did was put a wig on and drew

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Speaker 2: am so let me say you guys, let me, let me,

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Speaker 2: let me go on mysel.

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Speaker 1: Though your skin is so beautiful, it's like glowing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the I think it's the window. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Though I don't know I look really pretty.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I needed to hear that, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: I needed to hear that because it's been it's been

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Speaker 2: a week. I am trying. Let me tell y'all something.

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Speaker 2: I do a lot outside of media, which sure you know,

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Speaker 2: but this is just I do a lot outside of media,

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Speaker 2: and most people who know me know that sorority is

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Speaker 2: a huge part of my life. Yes, but I will

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Speaker 2: also tell you that shit I'll bed in a moment.

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Speaker 2: So we got an event coming up, and I have

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Speaker 2: had to I said that I was going to be

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Speaker 2: other people opportunities to step up so that they can

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Speaker 2: But here it is days before the event, and I'm

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Speaker 2: back on the So where's this. Oh that's not doing.

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Speaker 2: So where's this that's not doing? Okay, So did we

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Speaker 2: order it? Oh? We didn't order that. So have you

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Speaker 2: talked to you haven't heard from So you're running the

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Speaker 2: shit anyway, That's what the fuck I'm saying, and I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of over it. So that's where my stress has

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Speaker 2: reported ball ahead, pulling my hair out because I was like,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing? But anyway, things always work out

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Speaker 2: the way that they're supposed to, and things typically at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, when we go through whatever

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Speaker 2: it is that we're doing, we always look back and

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Speaker 2: be like, you know what leading there? Getting there was

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Speaker 2: cool with that. I can't I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys all about the event on another show.

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Speaker 2: But on today's show, we're gonna talk about why people

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Speaker 2: can't seem to keep black women's name out their mouth.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready it's just.

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Speaker 2: Bottom line, mean, why y'all, why y'all just take keep

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Speaker 2: people's names about your mouths. With that being said, let's

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Speaker 2: know it advanced. This isn't even an angry like I'm

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Speaker 2: it's from a place of just but it's a place

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Speaker 1: I'm pleading with you, you're tired.

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Speaker 2: I am just I'm at like I'm asking at this

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Speaker 2: were telling people, urging people not to give money to

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Speaker 2: any sense. She's not visible enough. And then in that

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Speaker 2: Jasmine isn't enough well known enough, and all this other

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Speaker 2: So are you suggesting that people should give money? I

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Speaker 2: don't know. But it was another example of a black

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Speaker 2: because Texas has never had a black female senator before.

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Speaker 2: And another incident, another case of a of a man

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Speaker 2: because it doesn't stop. Theorist keeps going. And then a

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Speaker 1: She's not the only one that feels that way.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, not has A has attacked Joy has

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Speaker 1: So that's a great question, and I think we all

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Speaker 1: it's not new, right, it's a new year, but this

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Speaker 1: And I don't even want to make this political, but

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Speaker 1: I don't really care what the color of your skin is.

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Speaker 1: just like, you're still at it. You're still at it,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, it's not that important when you look at

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Speaker 1: everything else that's going on in this country. But when

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying, well, you know, people

435
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: were there for whatever. You don't know what her role was,

436
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: what her job. I mean, I don't know what other

437
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: reporters are there, what their assignments are, why they asked

438
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: what they asked. I don't know what their assignments are.

439
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: So I'm not judging your questioning. I personally did say

440
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: I would have done it at a different time, but

441
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm not dragging. They were dragging this woman talking about

442
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: she should lose her credentials and she's a fan that

443
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: has turned into a reporter and blah blah blah blah blah,

444
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: like what what are we like? What are we really doing?

445
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: And this is the type of ship that we have

446
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: to continue to overcome on a day in, day out basis.

447
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: And it don't make it no better when you have

448
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: people with a platform of a million plus people and

449
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: viewers who have about hundreds of thousands upon millions of viewers,

450
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: and they might not even hear these names or see

451
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: these people other than what you say about them. And

452
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: that's what you got to say. And you don't even cook.

453
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: You know, you ever do the Oreo cookie? You ever

454
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: heard the Oreo cookie method? Like, you don't even orio cookie?

455
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: It where you say something nice and then you say

456
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: your criticism, but then you finish it up with something

457
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: nice so that it makes all the Oreo cookie. Marial, Yes,

458
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: the Oreo cookie. You know you. I'm also a fat ass,

459
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: so you know oo cookie.

460
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm very well aware Oreo cookie. But I hadn't heard that.

461
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: I like that.

462
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: You know you look amazing, although I might not wear

463
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: the shirt you got the homes in it. But your hair, however,

464
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: it is gray. It's like them. I heard you slide

465
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: in that ship about my shirt.

466
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Like to see me me. I'm gonna go right, let's

467
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: go straight to it. Ain't I don't need to cook

468
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: it on outside of let's go to the filing.

469
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the feeling coming to me.

470
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm screaming, well, I just so so I go back

471
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: to I was just listening to Joy Anne Red and

472
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: and and Stephen a kind of go back and forth

473
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, and.

474
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: You know he's he's quick.

475
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: To always say I I asked, so it's oring by

476
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: so and so to come on my show, and they declined.

477
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: But you know my response to that is was that

478
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: before or after you had all the shit to say?

479
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: M H.

480
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Because if I'm if I'm a Jazmin crocketd or a

481
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: joy and Read and I'm sitting here knowing how you

482
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: feel about me and what you've already put out there

483
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: about me, I don't really have any interesting coming to

484
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: sit down with you because you've already based your opinion

485
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: or whatever on who you think I am. So, so

486
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: why would I like, why would I want to come

487
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: on your show? Now? I don't know that that's just me.

488
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just I don't know.

489
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: Not not not. I don't think so. I don't think

490
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: that's wrong what celeb I mean, you have some people

491
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: who are controversial and some people who aren't, And like

492
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: for most people, some people like you, you'd be like, nah,

493
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: want to come here show? You didn't already said whatever

494
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: you want to say? You know what I mean? Then

495
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: you get your other folks who may be a bit

496
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: more controversial, like Sarika, that'll be like, oh, sure, I'll

497
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: come on your show. I absolutely come on your show.

498
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: But I don't even think that's me being like controversial

499
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: or not. I have at this point, like I've read

500
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: and I've heard everything that you've had to say. So

501
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: for me in that moment, I'm just like, no, like,

502
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: just keep that same energy, just keep doing you and being.

503
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Who you are because you you've.

504
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Already shown me who you are. I don't I don't

505
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: need to come and sit down with you now to

506
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: have a conversation. Yeah, the conversation so you can go

507
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: back and be like, well, this is not what I

508
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: this is what I said, but it ain't what I meant.

509
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 2: Ain't what I meant and how I meant that, you know,

510
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it just kind of is what it is.

511
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: And again I want to stress to everybody listening, like

512
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: this isn't an attack on Stephen A. Smith, but it

513
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: is just simply because he's not the only one there

514
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: are just there are plenty of people and the whole

515
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: lot of larger platforms who find ways to take bigs

516
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: at women, specifically black women, who have power name authority

517
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: seem to be charging in a direction, and right now

518
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: those attacks seem to be on people like Jasmincrockett because

519
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: of what she's trying to aspire to do, and people

520
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: like Joyanebrie who speaks up about those folks who try

521
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: to you know, like I've seen it done with Jamail,

522
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: like I've seen it done with you Cheryl on many occasions.

523
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's it just continues. I see it

524
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: happening with angel I see it happen all the time

525
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: with like people. It's just you can't like you can't

526
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: say anything or do anything other than what we saw

527
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: it happen with Kamala Harris. People hate it. Kamala Harris girl,

528
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, just the the worst is the worst

529
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: thing in the world. And now some of those people,

530
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: not all of them, some of them just refuse to

531
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: say that they're wrong, but a lot of them aren't

532
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: rethinking the things they did to said about the decisions

533
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: that they made regarding Kamla Harris. Right, So it's not

534
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: it's not an attack or excuse me, it's not a

535
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: call out of one specific individual. It's just that, you know,

536
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: the thing between Steve and and Joien or are just

537
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: maybe the more recent you know example that can be used.

538
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: But it's just it's it's to a point. And so

539
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: when we come back, what I want to do is

540
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: offer some coping mechanisms for black women that may feel like, hey,

541
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: what's a lot going on and we need to stay positive.

542
00:32:46,240 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: In twenty fives, we'll be right back. So, Cheryl, I

543
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: know you always at the end of every show have

544
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: great words of positive affirmations for us, and so it's

545
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: no secret that on levels to this, we always try

546
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: to make people feel good about themselves. Yeah, so I

547
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: didn't want this conversation to end without us at least

548
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: offering some forms of actionable things that we can do

549
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: to try to stay you know, engaged and keep your

550
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: head above water and not like let the weight of

551
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: the world like drag you down. Because it can be tough, right,

552
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: it can be overwhelming and overbearing. When I turn on

553
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: the news or turn on my to open up my

554
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: social and all I see is this, right, So because

555
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: that's a lot, it becomes a lot. It really does

556
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: become a lot. And so first thing that I want

557
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: to say is for those up there, of those of

558
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: us out there, my sisters, my loves, my queens. To

559
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: have a strong support group like that. Support group ain't

560
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: got to be from people who you've known for ninety years.

561
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: It ain't got to be from people who you know

562
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: for five minutes. It just got to be from people

563
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: who you trust, who understand what you're going through, who

564
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: will encourage you and uplift you. Just have a strong

565
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: support group. I got a group of friends, a few

566
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: that I know I can call and talk to and

567
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: share my shit, and they can call and share the shit,

568
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: and we're gonna laugh it off, have a glass of wine,

569
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: maybe stronger than that, depending on what we're going through,

570
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: and then we gonna keep it and we don't keep

571
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: it going, you know what I'm saying. So I would say,

572
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: for one, you definitely got to make sure that you

573
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: have a strong support group behind you, one hundred percent,

574
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I would say

575
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: number two is you have to prioritize being away, prioritize

576
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: making time to turn it off, turn turn turn the

577
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Twitter off, turn the CNN off, turn the I'm not

578
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: at work the work phone, turn it off, the computer,

579
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: close it like there's no real such thing as work

580
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: life balance because one thing is always gonna be more

581
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: than the other. But you have got to completely like

582
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: just lock out because if we get zoned in every

583
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: single time, the CNN is always on, Fox News is

584
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: always on, My alerts from Apple News is always on, Like,

585
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: you're never gonna be You're never gonna have a moment

586
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: to just think of things and do things outside of

587
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: what the news cycle is currently bring in insane how

588
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: they're at like turn it off?

589
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a must, because you know the thing

590
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: is like what what are you really going to do

591
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: about it? Meaning you got all the CNN, your phone, Twitter,

592
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: ig all that things, and you're scrolling and I am

593
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: so guilty of this. You're scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, and everything

594
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: is so negative, Like like what are you going to

595
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: do to fix all of the negative stuff that you're seeing?

596
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Right?

597
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: And I just told myself the other day I literally

598
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: turned my phone off because it was one alarm after

599
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: another and it was just too much from a mental standpoint.

600
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: And you've said it like we have to turn the

601
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: noise off ever so often. And one that I want

602
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: to add to your list t is when you turn

603
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: that noise off. I think it's so important that you

604
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: not find the time, but you make time for you,

605
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: just for you. Before we started recording, I was talking

606
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: to my producer, our producer, and we were talking and

607
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I told her for me after the day, right and

608
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: actually right now, with all the stuff that we have

609
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: going on in this world, I'm a I'm a gamer,

610
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: not a like Nintendo type gamer, not that one. But

611
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I love like my Crosshord puzzles, my hidden objects, like

612
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: all the different games where I will just sit on

613
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: my couch with music or maybe nothing, just silence in

614
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: my game. And and that for me kind of takes

615
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: me away from from reality, just just for a couple

616
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: of hours. And I think it's so important that we

617
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: that we do that.

618
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean for me at sports right

619
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: and for me as being out like there are, I

620
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: will I don't even have to know the teams that

621
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: are playing, but I just enjoy the art of competition,

622
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: free of racism, free of free of all of that.

623
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Just you know, I'll just watch it and and just

624
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: enjoy it to take my mind away from whatever we're doing.

625
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna y'all know me, I'm outside, so I

626
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: have no you gonna be outside, I'm gonna be outside.

627
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: I have no problem. I just and I just did

628
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: that this past week. This past Saturday, I linked up

629
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: with some friends and a couple people hit me up

630
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: and was like, Hey, are you watching blah blah blah blah,

631
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, Nope, today is a non sports

632
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: today for me. It's a non nothing day for me.

633
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm about to go to the bar, have some drinks,

634
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: flirt a little bit, chill a little bit. I'm finna

635
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: do it. I'm gonna do all that. I'm gonna do

636
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: all that. I need that one out. I need the

637
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: free drinks. I need them. I need them free drinks.

638
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: That's a whole different show topic, y'all. Don't let them

639
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: fool you. Your girlfriend is flirting at the bar for

640
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: the free drinks. It is Oh yeah, that's a different show.

641
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: That's a different show. Drinks. All right, I just got

642
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: a couple more right, So okay number two. And I

643
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: know we say this often, but I think sometimes people

644
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: think that we are not serious when we're saying it,

645
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: But we're very serious. Sometimes there are things that you

646
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: need to discuss that may not like some of us

647
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: are like impaths, where like we feel what other people

648
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: feel even though it's not necessarily happening to us. It's

649
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: not necessarily yet going on in our direct family, but

650
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: you just feel the empathy and you feel whatever it

651
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: is that they're going through. It is okay to speak

652
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: to an actual professional, go to therapy, Go to therapy,

653
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: because it becomes like the can people can only say

654
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: the angry black woman so many times before you start

655
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: to end yourself think, am I coming across angry?

656
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Like.

657
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Speaker 2: Then you tailor how you talk to people, You tailor

658
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: your face and tailor everything that you're doing to try

659
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: not to be that angry person. And it's like, well, wait,

660
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: why am I changing who I am and how I

661
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: approach and what I do when there's nothing wrong with

662
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: who I am and how I'm approaching what I do.

663
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: And so if you need to speak to an actual professional,

664
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: do that, go to therapy, Like do that. That's a thing. Yeah,

665
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: that is a thing, And I think last, it's it's

666
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: a very important thing. And I think last, but not least,

667
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna take this from my girls in the WNBA.

668
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: It is okay to directly challenge injustice it is okay

669
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: to directly be like, nah, we're not doing that. Nah,

670
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: I'm not. It's okay. It is totally okay to do it. Now,

671
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: you should know your limits and how far you're gonna go,

672
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: what you can afford to and not do say or

673
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: not say. You know where your boundaries are. But it

674
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: is okay to directly challenge injustice is when you see it.

675
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why folks keep coming for Jasmine

676
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: and keep coming for Joining in the first place, because

677
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: they will do to perfectly challenge injustice when they see it.

678
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: They will not allow you to miscategorize them. They will

679
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: not allow you to It is okay because you got

680
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: to sleep well with yourself at night, and some people cannot.

681
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: Some people will never say anything, They will just sit

682
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: idly by. I ain't one of them. People surely ain't

683
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: one of the people. It is okay to directly challenge

684
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: injustices when you see them. And that's the reason I'm

685
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: telling you. That's why some of y'all favorites ain't really

686
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: a lot of other people's favorites, because they don't let

687
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: that ships lie. And it's okay.

688
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a word right there. That is a word,

689
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: and that's a That's what a lot of people have

690
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: an issue with those women who say, you know what,

691
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. I don't like it. And

692
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, and even if it doesn't impact you directly,

693
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: but you're standing up and you're speaking up for others

694
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: who are being impacted when you see something ain't right

695
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, that ain't right And

696
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to just sit here or stand here

697
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: and let you mistreat them or do that.

698
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. No, really good. Nope,

699
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: that's those are my Those are those are my actionable

700
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: items for everyone friends, just to take with you for

701
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: the rest of twenty twenty six. You know what I mean,

702
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: because it's it's gonna be alone. I broke a mirror, Yes, because.

703
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna need it.

704
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna need it. I broke I broke a mirror yesterday,

705
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: and I said, I'm gonna have seven years of bad

706
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Look you know how you said when you break a mirror? Yeah,

707
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: And and Greg said, do you do you really believe that?

708
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: And I said, well, I don't. I mean, I believe

709
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: in superstitions. Yes, there are some superstitions that I that

710
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: I follow, and I believe. Do I believe were gonna

711
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: have seven years bad luck? No, I don't believe that,

712
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: but I do believe at the way twenty twenty six

713
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: then started off, I probably ain't do myself no favors.

714
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: I i't help myself. God, I help myself none with

715
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: this brother, marry so shit, let me find out what

716
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: I need to. Let me put some positivity in the

717
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: atmosphere immediately, because the way twenty twenty six starting off, honey,

718
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: I got I can't afford to be breaking no mirrors.

719
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: Like girl, just just clean it up and go buy

720
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: you another that one used to be one of mine.

721
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, like there's there's there's there's power

722
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: in the tongue.

723
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Speaker 2: There is power in the tongue. That is for sure.

724
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: That is for sure. All right, friends, we'll be back

725
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: to close this episode on that. All right, y'all. So

726
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: just uh another great show. We just telling folks to

727
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: keep their name on our mouths. Man, just stop stop

728
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: being stop being negative for two black women, stop being

729
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: negative to women.

730
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, just let us let us let us breathe, let

731
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: us be great, breathe. That's before before our level of

732
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: soft was it a new mirror or old mirror.

733
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: Gray was up. Let me say, I bought the new

734
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: mirror because I'm trying to trying to decorate my wall.

735
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 2: And you know how you have like the new mirrors

736
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: that you can put like as accessory. It's my fault too.

737
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: I was kneeling the home like putting the nail in

738
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: for the one on the side of it, and I

739
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: guess I hit it a little too hard in the mirror.

740
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: The mirror that I just hung fell cracked instantly, cracked instantly.

741
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 2: So maybe it's only three and a half years because

742
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: it was a small mirror.

743
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it won't be seven. It won't be seven, just

744
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: three and a half.

745
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: I like that.

746
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Here's what I got for the people today, all right,

747
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: after this great conversation that you know what, that I

748
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: needed to hear a lot of this myself today. Here's

749
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: what I got. I'm gonna read it kind of slow

750
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: because I need you all to hear it. People hear

751
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: you differently when you're no longer trying to convince them.

752
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: That's all I got. Stop trying to convince people of

753
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: your greatness and who you are, and just live in it,

754
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: and they will hear you differently.

755
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: That's facts. That is facts, and that is such a

756
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: good one. Ah, that is such a good one. It's

757
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: short and sweet, but deep, yeah, very deep. Who was

758
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: it that just said something similar? Did they have like

759
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: a line? I don't know. I feel like I heard

760
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: like in a in a song or something recently. I

761
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: don't know, but that was it was the same sentiment

762
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: where it was just along the lines of I'm I'm

763
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: sick and tired of trying to convince people this stuff,

764
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: so I just I just do me. You get on her? Yes, yeah,

765
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: either you get on or yes. Yeah.

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00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: It's a new year. We ain't got time to be

767
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: convincing people.

768
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: I know. That's right. Well, friends, I hope y'all are

769
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 2: convinced that y'all love this show and that y'all will

770
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: be listening to it again, because that's that is some

771
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: convincing that we will love. Okay. With that being said, friends,

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00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for listening to the levels

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00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: to this podcast. We will be back next week with

774
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: more next level conversations. But remember this is not just

775
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: our show. It's our show like our show, so we

776
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: need you to make sure that you keep keeping in

777
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: touch with us. Right like, drop us an email that

778
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Levels to this podcast at gmail dot com, follow us

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Speaker 2: a review on Apple Podcasts. We definitely read the reviews.

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00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: I certainly read the reviews. So leave us a review

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783
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784
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: us talk about in the future. So we love y'all,

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Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all, but until next time, keep your mentals

786
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: ground level and we will be back next week. Peace.

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