1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. Day two of 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: joint practices between the Ravens and Commanders is in the books. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: All the joint practici are in the books now. Day 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: one end. Yes, and so Garrett and I are here 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: to break down what we saw today. And Garrett, what 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of stood out to you first and foremost? 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I mean I think we should probably start 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: with like the biggest news. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Of the day, sure, and that was not on the field. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: No, Marlon Humphrey out there on the practice field today. 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Head coach John Harbaugh said after practice that he is 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: undergoing foot surgery. Said it's not a long term deal. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: There are reports out there that he could miss some 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: game action, missed one or two games. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: We'll see. 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: John Harbaugh did not give a definitive timetable, so that's 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: up in the air right now. So did not provide 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: a timetable, which is not necessarily a surprise as we 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: get close to the regular season. But the fact is 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: that Marlon Humphrey is not on the field today, had 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: foot surgery. And obviously this cornerback group is already thin. 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: We spent time yesterday talking about the group being thin, 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: while Marlin was on the field, So it's a thin group. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: And in addition to Marlin not being out there, Rocket 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Scene still not there. Arthur Mulett, Jalen Armor, Davis, Pepe 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Williams also had surgery at ankle surgery, so he's going 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: to be out for the foreseeable future. And I don't 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: know if I'm missing any ofen and treyvon Mullen is 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: on NFI. 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: He's done for the year. So you've been hit hard. 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: The injury bug is hit hard at the cornerback spot 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: going into the season. The good news, you know, the 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: good news is that the only one that is really 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: long long like trayvon Mullen and Pepe Williams. 36 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: Are the long long term ones. And we'll see how 37 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: long Marlin is. 38 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is you're going into 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: the season right now thin of that group in terms 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: of death and top pen talent. 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean being without Marlon Humphrey if he does 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: miss regular season games, Being without him for Week one 43 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: against Texans not good. Week two against the Bengals if 44 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: he's not there for that even worse. Yeah, of course, right, 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: considering the magnitude of that game and who they have 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: at wide receiver and at quarterback probably. 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: If they have it Joe Burrow quarterback. 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: They have questions too about Joe burrowshouse, but yes, either way, 49 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: it is if he's not out there where you start 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: getting into these division games in Week two against the Bengals. 51 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Right, three division road games in the first five weeks, 52 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: so we don't know, you know, hopefully Marlin's out there 53 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: for Week one. We don't know. But it's not good, right, 54 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of reminds me a little bit 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: last year. You know, we all talked about Rashab Bateman 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: and you know what kind of predicament that the Ravens would 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: be in if, for shot Bateman suffered an injury. Now 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: he's suffered it early in the season and the wide 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: receiver corps really struggled. Now that was ultimately season ending 60 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: for him. But like the cornerback situation is kind of 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, Marlon Humphrey is like the clear 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: clear number one, one of the best players on team, 63 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: and not having him for any period of time out 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: there is not good. I mean, right now, the Ravens 65 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: number one quarnerback is probably Kevon Seymour. 66 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you're making the list of players 67 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: you can least afford to lose. 68 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey is top three on that on that list 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: for the mus Yes, so if any amount of time 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: is significant. John Harball also said that this wasn't like 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: he suffered in It was kind of surprising because he 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: talked to the media. 73 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday and yesterday, you know, he was on the field today, 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: he was at practice today in shorts, right, sure. 75 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: And so it seemed like it's fine now. 76 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: John Harbaugh said that this is something that is not 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: has been a lingering thing and they. 78 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: Decided to get it fixed. 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: And so you get it fixed now rather than you know, 80 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season, then you missed them 81 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: onto the season. 82 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: Whatever it is. So and that and and that. 83 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Was just kind of things happened, like it's it's there's 84 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: sometimes just questions of can a guy get through it, 85 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: can you get through the season? How bad is it 86 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: is it? Cause is it causing pain or whatever? And 87 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: sometimes lingering things can get worse. And look, you know 88 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: he said that they went to the doctor and basically 89 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: made the distermination like yes, let's do this now, it's time, 90 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, And so that that's always with some of 91 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: these injuries. Uh, you're weighing those circumstances, you know, and 92 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, you know you have to address it. Now. 93 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: On the flip side, maybe it's it's fortunate to address it. Obviously. 94 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: The hope is that he comes out of that and 95 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: he's feeling good and he's good for the rest of 96 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: the year and whatever. But you know, it also makes 97 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you nervous just foot. You know, foot's never good. Yeah, 98 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean we've talked to on this podcast before about 99 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: guys coming back from foot in Marci's Brown Bateman. 100 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: I mean, now those are lists, Frank andredication exactly. 101 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: There's no this isn't Yeah, there's no indication that this 102 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: is a list, Frank, different kind of situation, Jimmy Smith 103 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: the other list. Frank. So, we don't know what the 104 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: foot injury is, but I'm just saying like, whenever you 105 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: get dealing with the foot, it's not good. 106 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: You don't like hearing about cornerbacks, receiver, seal guys that 107 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: rely on speed, quick breaks to have. 108 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: On that foot. So, I mean, foot injury is not 109 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: good for any football player quite Frankly, right, you're always 110 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: on your feet. So yeah, it's it's it's not a 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: good situation. The Ravens are obviously going to continue to 112 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: monitor the free agent market, you know, whether there's somebody 113 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: out there that they can pick up. But as John 114 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Harball said, it's late in the game. You know, like 115 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: these guys are out there on still out there for 116 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: a reason, and which one of who's in really good shape, 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: who's ready to go right now? Like who wants to 118 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: really play football? Those are all question marks. 119 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: You know. 120 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: We can all say you're in, say names and whatnot, 121 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: but we don't know how what kind of shape they're 122 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: in now. We don't know, you know, we don't know 123 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: their situation. What it's surprising if the Ravens added somebody's 124 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: absolutely not you know that it wouldn't surprise you. If 125 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: we have guys coming in for tryouts here the next 126 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: week or so, wouldn't surprise me. Yep, Ravens already claimed 127 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: the guy this week. Tay Hayes brought him in and 128 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: they also signed the veteran DeAndre Houston Carson. Now he's 129 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: more of a free safety, but he used to play 130 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: corner firstyle kind of guy, So they've already made a 131 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: couple moves. But I would expect that more are coming. Yeah. 132 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: I think as Erics Costa often does take come monitor 133 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: the trade market too, as you get down at the end. 134 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I mean that's that's the question. Now, is 135 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: like what kind of move, what kind of move do 136 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens need to make? Yeah, you know, is it 137 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: another guy for depth? I mean some of these Jaalen 138 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: Armor Davis is expected to be back very soon. John 139 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: Harball said, Rocky Scene not as soon, but still close. 140 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: John Harbaal said, So when you get those two guys 141 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: back on the field, you'll feel a lot better about 142 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the situation, obviously, But if Marlin is going to potentially 143 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: miss games, then you need to make us more significant 144 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: addition of somebody that you know, a starter level guy. Yeah, 145 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: that's the question. And and is that guy even out there? 146 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: Is that player available right now? It's or a trade. 147 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: And if you're getting a start level player, it's probably 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: a trade, right. I just it's hard for me to 149 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: see a start level player you're still just sitting around. 150 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Agreed the last one. Yeah, Yeah, I mean there's people 151 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: that are free agents who have started games. It's it's like, 152 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: but does the league view them as a starter, right? Now, 153 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: probably not because they're free agents. I mean yeah, I 154 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: mean there's some guys that sit out there because of price, 155 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, and all that stuff. But I'm sure the 156 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Ravens will turn over every stone. 157 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Yes, totally. 158 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: So in terms of what we saw getting back to 159 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: the practice field against the Commanders, you know, I think, 160 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: my did you did you focus on the offense once 161 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: again or did you know you go to the defense. 162 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Actually split the baby. I was right in the middle, 163 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and so I was kind of I was that was 164 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: just a pro you should have seen me. 165 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: Just you weren't paying attention to the backup center competition today. 166 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: I got off the well I did. I'll tell you 167 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: the D line, Ravens D line versus the Commander's O 168 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: line was an interesting one to one to watch. So 169 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I still was watching the trenches. That one got spicy. 170 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: That was a little chippy, right, oh, to say the least, 171 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: to say the least, But yeah, I was. I was 172 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: watching both fields. So I mean, I'll start right there. 173 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that one guy who had a 174 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: great day, David Ajabo, and I thought it Dafe Oway 175 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: again came off for a nice sack. A Jabo had 176 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: had pressure consistently. I mean they had Sam the first 177 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: team Ravens defense had Sam Howe running for his life 178 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: early in eleven elevens. I mean, he was on new 179 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: run and so I know there's been a lot of 180 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: questions about the Ravens pass rush and whatnot. Two days 181 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: of the Commanders looks like it's gonna be eye. 182 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's the thing. I think. One thing that's 183 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: really encouraging. 184 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: About Oway is he's looked good in camp, but now 185 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: you see it against another team, and so that's kind 186 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: of the next step, like you want to see it 187 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: with him. We talked last year about how we felt 188 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: like he was really good going into the season and 189 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: then the sack production wasn't what we expected it to be. 190 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: But he had a good camp. 191 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: So he starts having a good camp this year and 192 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: you wonder, okay, is that going to translate to games. Well, 193 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 2: now it's a step up. Now you go up against 194 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: another opponent. And he looked great the last two days. 195 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: I think he was one of the stars of these 196 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: joint practices. He was living in the backfield, had probably 197 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: three sacks on Tuesday, and then is living in the 198 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: backfield again on Wednesday. 199 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: So really really encouraged by Oway. 200 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: And I think that this, like all of this is 201 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: just building to an excellent third season for him. We 202 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time over the past month or 203 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: so talking about how this is a big season for him. 204 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: Contract stuff, you know, fifth year option has to be 205 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: decided after this year, all of that. But I just 206 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: think he is in a good position and I'm encouraged 207 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: by what I'm saying from him. 208 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I mean, he's he's a guy 209 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: who you know, he's got to continue this. He's got 210 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: transfers to the games because he was having a great 211 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: training camp last year. 212 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: What's the thing. But it's just today, like these last 213 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: two days, I get. 214 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Doing again another team. Yeah, he's doing against another team. 215 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: So on little side note his high school coach, Jim Saylor, 216 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: because it was here today. He's o'dafe and David Ojabo's 217 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: high school coach, so maybe that was the inspiration. 218 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: He Well, he saw coach Sailor in the stands. He said, 219 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: you know what, I got to put on a show 220 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: for him out there. 221 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: That's right. 222 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 3: I think. 223 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, he's credited him with being a major influence for him, 224 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: and oh, for sure, his life and you know, oh way, 225 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: his story is pretty well documented. But started a basketball 226 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: player and transition to football. Same with the Java. So 227 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: coach Saylor knows what he's doing. He can find those 228 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: guys player Academy. 229 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Blair Academy. That's right, go back and read my cover 230 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: story exactly. 231 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: So he can find those guys and helped turn them 232 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: into some great stories. Yeah, check out mixed cover story. 233 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought also one guy who was very competitive, 234 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Travis Jones. Oh my, oh he uh he tossed one 235 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: commander guy just I mean he and he and a 236 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: couple of those commanders into interior. Blackers were getting after it, 237 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: and there were some chirping going on, and uh, Travis 238 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Juns got big, came up on one and the dude 239 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: just hugged him. I mean he just he just straight 240 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: up hugged him. It looked like two grown men embracing. 241 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, that's an obvious hold. Yeah, 242 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: and uh, I think there's a little chirping after that one, 243 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: and then the next one, Travis kind of just got 244 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: under the dude's armpit and just I mean like right 245 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: off the snap, just throw them. And I was like, yeah, 246 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: that's what Michael Pierce was talking about with the strongest 247 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: dude he's ever met, the second strongest ude behind limbal 248 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Joseph is what he said, and I was like, there 249 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, Ravens got some no. 250 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: I like this defensive line dogs. I mean we also 251 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: if you didn't watch it, but you want to see 252 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: the action for practice, we actually did a last room 253 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: each of the last two days. We streamed the entire 254 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: practice and we spent some time on that live room 255 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: talking about the defensive line. 256 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: And I just think it's gonna be a really good group. 257 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Like it's tough to lose class Campbell, but I really 258 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: like the young pieces that the Ravens have. 259 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: PROGERC. Washington. 260 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: He had a nice win on Brody too. He uh. 261 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: And then I think the commanders, you know, when the 262 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: commanders would win a rep on that offensive line, they 263 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: were letting the d line know about it, and so 264 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: Brody wanted a rep and then he kind of did 265 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: the hand up to the ear kind of oh, oh, 266 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't hear anything this time. Yeah, And it was competitive, yeah, 267 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, Broddy had I thought I had a 268 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: pretty good practice too. It was it was just some 269 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: really good good work in there. You know, it got 270 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: a little a little too much at times and coaches 271 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: had to step in. Uh, Anthony Weaver was trying to 272 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: help keep the piece one castillo for a race coach. 273 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: He's a tight ends coach for the Commanders, but of course, 274 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: you know one he can't stay stray far from the 275 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: old line. He was right in the middle of it. 276 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: And uh, there were some coaches yelling at some guys 277 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and saying, let's get back to work and you know, 278 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: focus on the job, and they did ultimately, but it 279 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: was it was intense. 280 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: It was a competitive Yeah. The other thing from these 281 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: two days of act just like a guy who definitely 282 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about for especially Ravens fans, is Zay Flowers. 283 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: You know, he shined definitely on Tuesday and then one 284 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: on one drills put on a show and then to 285 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: continue that. I think that that he had a great 286 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: move and seven on seven drills to just get wide 287 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: open in the end zone, Like this is a guy who. 288 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Can make plays. 289 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: Actually, I think that was one one drills that was 290 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: one of oneles where he got a great move, just 291 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: shook a dude completely out of frame and like that's 292 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: just what he can do. 293 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: And remember gonna hate z Flowers. Who's that like, you know, 294 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: shooters like camera camera. 295 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to keep track of him, but he's 296 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: he's I thought he had a he had a great 297 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: two days of work. 298 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, he's electric. Thought it was pretty 299 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: funny that Marlon Humphrey said the hardest part of training 300 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: camp covering was covering. Yeah, and so that really speaks 301 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: to day. You know, overall the offense didn't have I 302 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: thought the offense had a better day yesterday, Yeah, on 303 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday than it did Wednesday. Jonash Shaffer, who's doing a 304 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: good job logging kind of you know, the actual reps 305 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: at first team offense with Lamar Jackson went eight of nineteen. 306 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: Lamar went eight to nineteen on eleven and eleven's three 307 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: of seven on seven on seven. So there's some misfires 308 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: in there, some drops, pass breakups. Like I thought the offense, 309 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: the first team offense wasn't didn't have quite as good 310 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: a day. Yeah. Well, there's a couple that they're still 311 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: dialing in that deep ball. I mean they hit some 312 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: deep shots. They took a number of deep shots I 313 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: thought over the past two days. And there's they're trying 314 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: to dial that in. You know. Obja was even asked 315 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: about it. You know, where do you feel like the 316 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: deep passing game is right now? He said, you know, 317 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: there's a room for room for improvement. 318 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: At one point Odell was he beat the defender and 320 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Lamars undershot him a little bit. Yeah, And even O'Dell 321 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: had a big catch on Tuesday and it was a 322 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: big game, probably like thirty forty yard gain, but it 323 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: was a little Lamar probably under threw that one a 324 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: little bit. 325 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, he had to, he had to 326 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of slide. Yeah. 327 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 3: Then today was a little bit more so. So I 328 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: think those two guys are still. 329 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Building that building that familiarity with each other and dialing 330 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: that in, dialing in that deep ball. So yeah, I 331 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: would agree. I don't think the offense was quite as sharp. 332 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: They weren't move with the ball. 333 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: And I think that they still had some shots to 334 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: mark and Lamar had a nice, nice throw up numbers 335 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: to mark for a long game. That's a gain that 336 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: set up a field goal. On one eleven or eleven session. 337 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: There was at one point where like the offense was 338 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: kind of sputtering a little bit, and then it was 339 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: just like all right, boom Mark Andrews for eight, Boom, 340 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: Mark Andwers for ten. 341 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just go back to the wheelhouse here like 342 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: twenty five. 343 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just go back to the wheelhouse here and 344 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: start pumping the ball to Mark and it works. I 345 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: really do think, like as I've seen over the past cup, 346 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: the past week or so, I all the talk receivers, 347 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: new offense new play caller, Mark is still gonna get 348 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: a huge workload. I really think that. I think that 349 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: that has started to come into clearer focus. We talked before, 350 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: like is that gonna be Is it gonna be any 351 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: less than past years where he just was the clear 352 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: cut number one receiving weapon. And I may like there's 353 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: more weapons now, but I still think in critical situations, 354 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: Mark is a go to target and whoever's calling the 355 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: place does offense new play caller. The chemistry between Mark 356 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: and Lamar is not going anywhere, definitely. 357 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: I think the chemistry when Lamar is like moving out 358 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: of the pockets or kind of sliding, the chemistry is 359 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: most there with Mark and Mark just they just have 360 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: a great feel and so like unscripted, for sure, I 361 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: think that scripted you know, there's this skinted the ball 362 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be spread around more, you know, and who's 363 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: supposed to get the ball the first read? You know, 364 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be more other guys. Yeah, he is 365 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: definitely going to be a one of the a clutch 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: target guy. But I think Odell is going to be, like, 367 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm kind of unchanged. I mean, for sure, Mark's gonna 368 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: have a big target share in this offense and be 369 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: a big part of it, but like he is not 370 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: the only go to weapon like I think he has 371 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: been at times in years past. 372 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think, but I think a lot 373 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: you don't want too much to run off scripted, but inevitably, 374 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson's mobility, like, there ends up being a 375 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: large portion of plays that just end up off script 376 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: because of his ability to get outside the pocket. And 377 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: when that happens, him and Mark are just gonna be 378 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: dialed in. 379 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Yep. Uh. I thought that Roquan had had a nice 380 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: practice Uh he had a real nice uh move to 381 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: just shed a block in one on one blocking situations 382 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: when he was blissing. Uh. Pat Peek had a nice 383 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: pass breakup on the on the uh edge kind of 384 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: just on an out route. Really nice play there. Tavius 385 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Robinson continues to flash for me. Dude's got heavy hands. 386 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: He's got heavy hands. I mean he can he can 387 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: push some blockers back and uh had a nice spin move. 388 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: It was also interesting I saw him doing a little 389 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: dropping and coverage, you know, in some drills, kind of 390 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: working that's that's not his forte. But moving backwards and 391 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: seeing what he looks like there. The Ravens coaches want 392 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: to see, you know, all their guys have to be versatile, 393 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: so seeing what he looks like there, So I thought 394 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: that was kind of interesting. 395 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: Let's take Let's take a quick. 396 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: Break, and then when we come back, we'll give our 397 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: final thoughts from practice and also look ahead to what's 398 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: on the horizon. 399 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from the Sea Geeks Studio. 400 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: We also want to let our listeners know that DraftKings 401 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: Sports Book is the official sports betting partner of the 402 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: Ravens and it has a limited time offer that you 403 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: don't want to miss. 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Charlie Kohler had a nice practice, caught a 413 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: really nice fade in red zone one on one's the 414 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: defensive back, to his credit, said hey, nice catch. Bud 415 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: gave him his props as they were kind of tumbling 416 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: to the ground. Cohler stuck one hand up there and 417 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: grabbed it. Had another nice play on eleven. On eleven, 418 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: ripped one to him. So I thought it was a 419 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: good day too for Charlie Kohler. And which is important. 420 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean Isaiah likely didn't practice either day. Don't have 421 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: an injury update on him from John Harball. But Charlie 422 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: Cohler took advantage of the opportunity. 423 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that's good because Coler Charlie Kohler. 424 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: I like him, I like his size, I like his potential, 425 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: and he's flashed at times for me. In the preseason game, 426 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: you put one on the turf, which is like the 427 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: biggest no note for a young player who's trying to 428 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: attablish himself. He can't put one on the turf. Didn't 429 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: hurt the Ravens went out of bounds, but still that 430 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure was something that he was kicking himself over 431 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: and the coaches probably stressed that point to him. 432 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: You can't put the ball on the ground. 433 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: So for him to bounce back and have a strong 434 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: couple of days of practice I think is really good because. 435 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: That's where you want to see from a young player. 436 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: And I think he's going to continue to get a 437 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: decent amount of work in these preseason games. But as 438 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: we've said before with him, I think that he could 439 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: end up in a situation where he ends up as 440 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: that inline blocker at times. Now he's not known as 441 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: that he's trying to bulk up, but like I do 442 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: think that he could be relied upon to play that 443 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: that third tight end blocking role at times. 444 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: I think RECRD is going to be that blocking that 445 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: blocking role. I'm not so sure that Cohler is gonna 446 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: end up seeing a ton of time there. 447 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: And what is Cohler's role. 448 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: Cohler's kind of a reserve tight end. I mean, not 449 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: everybody can be on the field all the time. 450 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: No, I don't think I think he's he's gonna have 451 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: his But if he's going to be active on game days, 452 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to be able to do that. 453 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I agree, I think that, Yeah, I agree. I think 454 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: the person that's best suited for blocking on the end 455 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of the line right now is pat Riccard. And I 456 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's particularly close. Yeah, Car, I mean recrds 457 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: to pass, but Carl Cohler, if you're put in coler 458 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: it's there's a little more unknown for the defense, right, Okay, 459 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: is he gonna he has to be proficient enough to 460 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: basically convince the defense that they have to respect that. 461 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: And and when he's in there, he can also he's 462 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: obviously a much more of a passing threat receiving threat 463 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: than pat Ricard is. Yes, right, So he needs to 464 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: be the all around kind of weapon and be sufficient 465 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: enough that and he's in there, Yeah, he can block 466 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: on that edge, you know, because they're not going to 467 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: throw it every time that he's in there. And really, 468 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: if they're throwing the ball, the two tight ends that 469 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: are going to be in there are Mark Andrews and 470 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely, right right, And Mark's become a pretty good 471 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: end line blocker too. 472 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 473 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: He honestly, he's improved considerably since his rookie year. 474 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 475 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: And he I mean Mark's just an all around great 476 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: tight end. So he does everything well pretty much. 477 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but specifically, I mean, he's always been 478 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: a great receiver. He's made pretty big strides as a block. 479 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: Which was what you hope Cohler can do. Yeah, he can. 480 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: He's got a great mentor to learn from that regard. 481 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: And Isaiah likely, you know, it's not like he gets 482 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: excused from blocking two. You know, he's working on that too. 483 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that Mark and I 484 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: and likely are probably going to get the majority of 485 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: snaps in this offense all for much of the year, 486 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, and cooler if there's an injury, he's ready 487 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: to step in. And I think it's you know, you 488 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: need to have good depth that's ready to step up 489 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: when needed, and so he's doing a good job with that. 490 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: All right, here's a question. All right, we've got a question. 491 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: As always, you can email us with the lounge at 492 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL dot net. 493 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: Kai is emailing us from London. 494 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: All right, I've been a listener ever since the first pod, which, 495 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: by the way, all right, so Kai is a listener 496 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: since episode one. Well, episode five hundred is coming out tomorrow. 497 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: This is episode four ninety nins Friday, coming out Friday, Friday, 498 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: all right, Friday, Friday, Friday. Kai has been a listener 499 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: since episode one. Where now on four ninety nine, Episode 500 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: five hundred eight is coming out on Friday. Guests number 501 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: one when we launched the podcast was the goat, Justin Tucker. 502 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: So we are bringing Justin back on for episode five hundred. 503 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: So he's back on. Justin probably has the record for 504 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: most appearances on the Lounge. 505 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's this? 506 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: Like four's had? He's had a number of them, so 507 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: he's coming back. He was begging us saying, guys, I 508 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: know that five hundred is coming up. I got to 509 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: get back on the labage. I listened every episode. I 510 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: want to make sure that I can get back on 511 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: for five hundred I think would be appropriate. So we said, sure, 512 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: we'll have you Justin. We're glad to do it. So 513 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: he's going to be on that. So that's going to 514 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: be coming out on Friday. You don't want to miss 515 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: this little plug there. Yeah, all right, Kuy's question, what 516 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: do you make of the undrafted rookies? So do you 517 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: think has the best chance to make the fifty three 518 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: man roster. I'm hoping for a big season. 519 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good attempt on the big Yes, you kind 520 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: of watched it, but I was reading emails you. 521 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: Okay, it's PREUS preseason. 522 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: All right, So undrafted rookies. Yeah, the player that I 523 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: would point to that probably has the best shot is 524 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: running back Keaton Mitchell is who I would say, Uh, now, 525 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: he dropped the dropped the bomb today wasn't good, but 526 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: everybody saw what he did in the preseason opener. Had 527 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: the long thirty five yard touchdown run which he showed 528 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: great explosion, kind of nice cut, got in the open 529 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: field and turn it on the Jets for a thirty 530 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: five yard touchdown. Got negated by a holding penalty. Unfortunately 531 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: that I don't think really impacted the play, but so 532 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: be it. It doesn't count, but we all it's on tape. 533 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: It's on tape, and so uh you know, Keaton I 534 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: think has had a pretty pretty good training camp. The 535 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: competition for the fourth running back job is a tight one. 536 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean that JK. Dobbins, Gus Edwards, and Justice Hill 537 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: I think are all locks. Fourth running back between Melvin 538 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Gordon and Keith Mitchell, I think is a that's a 539 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: legit competition could go either way, and do they keep four? 540 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: I would expect that they probably do. Yeah, you don't 541 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: want to be thin at running back. Yeah, and Keaton 542 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: really his advantages you know, you return kicks also in 543 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: the presets game, if he can be a backup, let's 544 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: just say he's the maybe he's the starting kick returner 545 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: over Duvernet or at least the backup you know, probably 546 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: would be the backup to dude. Then that provides value 547 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: and they've weren't worked to mc gunner. Yeah, he's playing 548 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: special teams, so if he offers more on special teams, 549 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Justice Hill also is a pretty good special teams player. 550 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: If Keaton offers more on special teams than Melvin Gordon does, 551 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: which I don't think Melvin Gordon's really playing much special 552 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: teams if any, then that gives him an advantage. Melvin 553 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: gods advantage obviously is that he's Melvin Gordon. Yeah, but 554 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: a pro bowler, you know what he is, you know, 555 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: and he's looked really good and so that's a that's 556 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: an interesting competition. I think yeah. 557 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean Keaton Mitchell is the name that most people 558 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: would point to in that question. You know, if you're 559 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: having an undrafted guy make the team, it's it is 560 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: an interesting We haven't done the full fifty three man 561 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: roster breakdown. We will do that eventually. Also, this is 562 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: a reminder for listeners out there to go submit your 563 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: guesses and then you pick the team contests in terms 564 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: of who you think is going to make the fifty three. Uh. 565 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: The winner gets a great set of prizes, so check 566 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: that out. There's a benefit of doing it early. 567 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: The earlier you do it. 568 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: If there's a tie, tie goes to whoever gets it 569 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: in first, So people like to wait for the last minute. 570 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: But if you get it in early, then you could 571 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: end up being the one that wins based on the ties, 572 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: and there's usually there's always ties anyway. 573 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: The other the other undrafted rookie, I would say, I 574 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: point to his Malie camp. 575 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: Oh, that's an interesting one. Yeah, I think he looks good. 576 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean there's there's not to be there. 577 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: Good good couple of days against the Commanders, too strong 578 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: strong joint practices, which says something you know and and yeah, 579 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity. Like you're saying, outside linebacker is a 580 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: little bit thin quite to the cornerback level, but it's 581 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: a little bit thin. And so if you know he 582 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: can prove himself worthy, then I think he's got shot. 583 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: The corner that I was going to mention is a possibility. 584 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: It's just because of the depth there. Like Jeremy Lucien, 585 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 586 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: He said God day on Tuesday. 587 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: He had a nice practice on Tuesday, a couple of 588 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: pass breakups, Like you know, I would not have said 589 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: that at the start of camp. But the Ravens have 590 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: a depth need a need there just given all the injuries. 591 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: I think we made questionnaire. 592 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: There's the other undrafted corner of the. 593 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, like you start looking at numbers there and 594 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: if you're looking at guys being on the shelf to 595 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: start the season, now, you just gotta have enough depth 596 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: to go into the season. 597 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, how long are these things? Linger? 598 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Pepe is going to be on the shelf, and we 599 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: don't know about Marlon, right. 600 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: And then you hope that the other guys are back soon. 601 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: There's no indication they're going to miss or the season 602 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: of games, but we haven't seen it back. 603 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: So so. 604 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 2: But he's another one I would just throw in the 605 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: mix there. If we're talking about kneading bodies going into 606 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: the season. 607 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. 608 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: So all right, as we mentioned, the five hundredth episodes 609 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: come out on Friday. Justin Tucker the Goat is going 610 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: to be the guest, so you do not want to 611 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: miss that episode. Also, make sure you check out the 612 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Ravens Press Pass podcast feed. That's where we post all 613 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 2: press conferences in their entirety. Head over there, subscribe, leave 614 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: a rating and review there. Go ahead and leave a 615 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: rating and review here on the Lounge feed as well. 616 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: So that's it for us today, Thanks for listening, and 617 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: we'll be back with you on Friday.