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Speaker 3: I think I think, you know what, I think we

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Speaker 3: should leave this incredibly lucrative world of podcasting behind and

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Speaker 3: Oh Brother war out Thou with me as the Clooney.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I think that's obvious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, why not? I don't remember much about that movie.

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Speaker 3: There's dapper damn Dan harecream, which I don't think would work.

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Speaker 2: Makes him a greaser.

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Speaker 3: I think he is technically a greaser. You're right, Margaret.

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Speaker 3: I think I think cloon Tang in that movie is

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Speaker 2: It explains why he stabbed all those people just because

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Speaker 3: Get uh classic Clooney. That was on the set of

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Speaker 3: Er though. So are we ready for part two of

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Speaker 3: our exploration into its men's adventure magazines?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's gonna stay nice and get nicer.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's absolutely the case. So to start us

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Speaker 3: off today, our next men's adventure magazine is the Noble

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Speaker 3: Exotic Adventures, and boy howdy it has a special cover.

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Speaker 3: If what, what's your guess for the Exotic Adventures cover

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Speaker 3: island late like.

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Speaker 2: Brown skinned women wearing not much clothing.

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Speaker 3: No, it's racism, but but yeah, you kind of guessed that.

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Speaker 2: So we'll give you. We'll give you half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sophie, will you show her Exotic Adventures?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a very racist drawing of a shake.

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Speaker 2: I forgot that all of the women who are sexualized

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Speaker 3: Well not entirely, but largely, yes, okay, largely. There is

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Speaker 2: Should we describe this cover to Yeah, we should excress.

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Speaker 3: So there's a very i would say, like second Indiana

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, very racist drawing.

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Speaker 3: So the first ad on this is for the least

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Speaker 3: No. I think it's one of those hand crank radio

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get some we get a heads up

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Speaker 3: as to some of the fantastic stories we're going to. Also,

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Speaker 3: it's worth noting the editor of Exotic Adventures is George Wallace.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the same one was the segregation governor,

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Speaker 3: but may maybe perhaps. Articles in this magazine include The

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Speaker 3: It said, with frank honesty, buck Nelu, we have the girls.

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Speaker 3: What it lacked in grammar, it made up in succinctness,

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Speaker 3: he's like I'm going to do a journalism on how

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Speaker 3: So he gets to this brothel and the bach Nellu,

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Speaker 3: No, well, no, no it's not. It's not a white girl.

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Speaker 3: All right, mister nehlu, let's see her. He clapped his

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Speaker 3: But our hero has no problem with being offered a

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Speaker 3: That is not the thing that is going to be

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Speaker 3: Naylou tells us that her name is Rummy and that

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Speaker 3: worth one hundred dollars that is being charged for her. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: He tells mister Naylou that this claim at this that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have much chance to get my money back.

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Speaker 3: I mean all right. Tangier is a free port. Ships

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Speaker 3: Anyway, the story is what you'd expect. He gets hired

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to follow this up with a full

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Speaker 3: anatomically the crabs look exceptional. Those are good. Clause like,

432
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 3: look at the details. Oh that's art, that's all. Yeah,

433
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: that's art. Yeah, it's beautiful. This is really something special

434
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: by Dave Callahan. So the pull text of the story.

435
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: Can you think of a more horrible way to die

436
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: than to be torn to streads by a horne of

437
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: monster crabs? I can't, because it almost happened to me.

438
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: I can't. Actually, Dave Callahan, that does seem like a

439
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: pretty bad way to die.

440
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I am now fully on board.

441
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: And this this is I dare I say a work

442
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: to those of Melville or le Gwynn, or dare I

443
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: say it William Shatner, author of Tech War, just a

444
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 3: true classic of the genre. Here it opens with starts

445
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: with an iconic horror story opening line, this is the

446
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: place Pamela said, We'll be all alone here. Nobody ever

447
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: comes here but me. Perfect completely set the moon in

448
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: the first two sentences, Ah Callahan, you.

449
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: Bastard, you did it.

450
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: Now those of you, we are a versed in literary theory,

451
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: will know that a statement like that by a character

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: means that they're going to die from a deadly crab attack.

453
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: Now our heroes have just taken a motor boat to

454
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: an inlet in British Honduras, north of Belize. Pamela and

455
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 3: the author Dave Callahan are both looking forward to relaxing.

456
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: Dave is especially excited for a long afternoon of love

457
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: with this busty daughter of a British diplomat, but he writes,

458
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: I wasn't prepared for the nightmare evins that would take

459
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: place that afternoon. One thing I will say for Dave

460
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: is that his female lead here is very definitely an adult,

461
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: and is also insinuated to be sexually active and in

462
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: control of her very interesting love life. So because he's

463
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: not fetishizing a child, I'm going to read his lustful

464
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: description here because it's kind of funny. It's pretty funny.

465
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Hand in hand, we climbed up the beach flank. It

466
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: was a warm, muggy day. Pamela was wearing a man's

467
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: white shirt whose buttons rarely managed to hold back the

468
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: magnificent thrust of her bosom, and a pair of khaki

469
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: trousers that clung tightly to her hips and thighs. Overhead,

470
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: the hot sun was burning its way through the thick clouds.

471
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: I spread a blanket for the two of us. There

472
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: were two bottles of local rum in the boat for refreshments,

473
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: and we had forgotten them. I'll go back to the

474
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 3: boat and get them, I said. When I reached for

475
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: the boat, I scooped up the bottles and looked up beach.

476
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: Pamela was peeling off her blouse. She had nothing on underneath.

477
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: I oggled her gently, swaying breasts appreciatively. As I approached.

478
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: She had buttoned the trousers, kicked them off, and stood

479
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: lovely and nude before me. Now she says she wants

480
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: to go for a swim. She's like, come on, take

481
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 3: your clothes off, let's get in the water together, in

482
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: one of those crisp British accents that sounded so out

483
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: of place in this primitive Central American country.

484
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: So fifty babies. Yeah.

485
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: And then, because it is nineteen fifty seven, he responds,

486
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 3: you go ahead and get your feet wet while I'm

487
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: opening the bottle.

488
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: I want to nip of rum before I get in

489
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: the water.

490
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: You do also get a lot of context by the

491
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: fact that they are spending an afternoon on a beach

492
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: and they bring two full handles of rum.

493
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: That is quite a quantity to swim on and then

494
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: drive a boat back on.

495
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean, every character in any one of these stories

496
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: is a hardcore alcoholic. I feel like that's less worth

497
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: mentioning in fiction from the fifties. But yeah, so our

498
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: character uses his trusty pocket knife, which you will not

499
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: hear from again, to open a bottle of rum and

500
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: drink what would kill a small pony. Then he starts

501
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: to take off his pants and head in after Pamela.

502
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: When we get a glorious line, David, David, help the

503
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: crabs the crab. I shaded my eyes and looked down

504
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: beach for her. She was almost completely hidden around the cove.

505
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: All he could see of her was her body from

506
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: the breasts upward. She was leaping around wildly in the

507
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: shallow water, some thirty feet off shore, grabbing the unopened

508
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: bottle of rum to use as a weapon. I sprinted

509
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: towards the water. What's happening, I yelled, what's the trouble

510
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: the crab?

511
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: She shrieked. The monster crabs.

512
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: Perfect, perfect pros a masterpiece. No, no, I want to

513
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: teach an English class just about this story, Like some

514
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: professors do with Moby Dick, where we just every day

515
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: we go through the monster crab story again.

516
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: See, I actually feel like there's like something to be

517
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: said about you learn all of these rules about how

518
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: to write well, and then you look at what sells

519
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: best and it does not follow those rules, and like

520
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: what is read the most does not follow these rules,

521
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: and there's like something to be said for that. That

522
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: is like a tension that all writers must cope with.

523
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: It is it is, and that's why more writers need

524
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: to write about monster crabs. I think that's a very

525
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: very clear lesson that I have a solarless story. Half

526
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: stumbling over myself in my hurry, I reached the edge

527
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: of the shore. There was Pamela off shore and water

528
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: no higher than her lovely knees, and monster crabs a

529
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: foot across were leaping out of the water, gnashing their

530
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: ugly pincers at her nude form. The water seemed to

531
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: boil with their hideous forms. There must have been hundreds

532
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: of the crabs swarming up from their slumbers in the mud.

533
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: And you know this is like based on a true story

534
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: where he like like I've had this like where you

535
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: have like a nice date and then something slightly weird

536
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: happens and then you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, wouldn't it

537
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: be wild.

538
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Thing like this ants or some shit? And it's like, yeah,

539
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: what if the ants had been foot long monster crabs?

540
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

541
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 3: But you know, I love this story, Margaret. I you know,

542
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: all these weirdo right wing culture warriors talking about like

543
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: how our society has gotten away from its first principles,

544
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: and I understand that now because I want to live

545
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: inside this moment, this glorious frozen instant where a man's

546
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: a man, woman's a woman, and a boiling hive of

547
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: crabs is a boiling hive of crabs, right, you.

548
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: Know, perfect, perfect story.

549
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also very funny that he instantly goes to

550
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: the rum bottle for a weapon.

551
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Even though he's a pocket knife.

552
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: He's got a knife on him, but he whips out

553
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: that rum bottle. Very fifties guy, smart, like woke modern

554
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: youths could never they'd have only a can of white

555
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: claw to defend them from the.

556
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Crabs, or they would have been swimming sober. Yeah, they

557
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: would have been swimming sober and thus doomed. Yeah, it

558
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: is interesting because he's drunk, but she is swimming sober

559
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: and spoilers. She is doomed.

560
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: So you're right, Margaret, I think that's exactly how this

561
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: story would end if these were gen Z kids, gin

562
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: Z kids who could never fight off a crab in

563
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: the waters, off belize. But you know who could fight

564
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: all a boiling hive of crabs?

565
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: Is it the people who pay us to put their

566
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: advertisements into our shows? Arguably, Margaret, Arguably.

567
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: And they just take a handful of rigging coins and

568
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: just throw them.

569
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, huk them at the crabs, Ninja star like like

570
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: ninja stars and ye yeah take this you crabs stead

571
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: of a bitch, Yeah don So back to the crabs.

572
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: She was screaming another light, mindless panic. I could see

573
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: a bloody gash along one arm, another just below a

574
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: jouncing breast. She was doing a wild dance, a death dance,

575
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: and the water around her was stained with red. Oh god,

576
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: I had Yeah, yeah, they're gonna murder, right, the crabs

577
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: are going to kill this lady now, Margaret. When he

578
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: described her jouncing, I did not know that was a word.

579
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: I thought, like, did he just make up a word

580
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: to describe like?

581
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Is it like jiggly bouncy.

582
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it means to jolt or bounce, So you win

583
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: this round. Fifties author, I learned a word from this story.

584
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: It was not in my vocabulary prior to it. All right, daddy, okay,

585
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: daddy own guard.

586
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: And I heard the sound the crabs made, the dull

588
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: ominous clack clack sound of heavy pincers cracking together. Pamela

589
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: was trying to beat the monsters off with her hands,

590
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: but they were slashing her mercilessly on hip and thigh

591
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: and arm and belly and buttock and every other part

592
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: of her body they could reach. Raising my bottle high

593
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: as a club, I waded out into the water, conscious

594
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: that my unprotected nakedness was terribly vulnerable to the attack

595
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: of the crabs. I didn't care. I had to see. Yeah.

596
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: So this is the point at which the author of

597
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: this story makes his first structural mistake, which is that

598
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: he breaks this fascinating narrative to take us back in

599
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: time to explain how he and Pamela met, which is

600
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: not a question on anyone's mind reading this.

601
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Crab fight story. I could not care less about these

602
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: people's backstory. I just want a naked man fighting crabs

603
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: with a rum bottle. That's all I need. His battle cry. Now.

604
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: He explains that he was in the country on legal business,

605
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: and her family had fled there from Belgium before the war.

606
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: They had a standard kind of rom com honestly proto

607
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: rom com. Like they literally bump into each other while

608
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: turning a corner, which I was like, oh, okay, interesting,

609
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: it's a normal Like again, it's a middle aged guy fantasy.

610
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: She's immediately into him for reasons that are never discussed.

611
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: She takes him back to her dad's mansion and they

612
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: get housed on rum. Then she you know, she strips

613
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: and stuff.

614
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

615
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: I will say it's not off putting after the last one,

616
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: because like she's very clearly an adult who's in control

617
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: as opposed to you know, a child's slaves. So I'll

618
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: give this off their credit anyway. I mean, he invites him.

619
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: He's going to murder her pornographically for the purpose.

620
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: Of well, the crabs are going to murder yes, yeah, anyway, yeah,

621
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: So she invites him out to the beach, and finally,

622
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: after a torturous diversion, we're back to the crabs. Oh good,

623
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Pamela's beautiful face was a hideous mask of sheer terror

624
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: in pain. As I waded towards her, slipping and sliding

625
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: on the slimy mud, evil claws flicked up from the

626
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: water around her, drawing blood at every touch, and she

627
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: was cut off from the shore by a solid mass

628
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: of the crabs. The drifting tides and sent slicks of

629
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: blood up and down the shore as more crabs were

630
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: on their way to join the attack. I was thirty

631
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: feet from her twenty fifteen. My breath was coming in

632
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: ragged bursts. As I tried to run through the shallow water.

633
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: I slipped and fell headlong. The rum bottle dropped, and

634
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: because it was the closest thing to a weapon I had,

635
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: I knelt and groped in the choppy surf until I

636
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: found it again.

637
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm coming, Pam, I yelled, hurry, kill them. They're tearing

638
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: me apart. Now. I like that.

639
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: In the middle there, you kind of turned into doing

640
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: your bench of Europe boy, I.

641
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: Did a little bit by Sorry, it's impossible not to,

642
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 3: I will admit when this when I started this story,

643
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: because so many of the stories I read for this

644
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: that you didn't hear are like great titles and then

645
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: very disappointing. I expected the crabs to mostly be a

646
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: visual threat. Maybe they'd nick Pamela a little bit, but no,

647
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: this is a brutal murder. Like it is a horrible

648
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: crab death. Pamela was surrounded by crabs. Now they had

649
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: almost bitten completely to the bone of her left arm.

650
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: Blood spurted in terrible gouts from the wound. This is

651
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: HP Lovecraft writing under another name.

652
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a horny HP Lovecraft writing his

653
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: weird crab fetish.

654
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

655
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: This is absolutely the author's baffling kink that they died,

656
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: never openly telling another soul about.

657
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: But absolutely they tried to tell their wife, and their

658
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: wife left them. No, no, their wife is gone. Yeah,

659
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: within minutes, took the car.

660
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: He was like, could you walk? Could you walk sideways

662
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: to the car. She's like no, No.

663
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Spent the rest of his life going out to the

664
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: aquarium every weekend wearing loose fitting pants. I tried to

665
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: help her, smashing my bottle against them to stun them,

666
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: tossing them as far as I could, but it was helpless.

667
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: A naked man and a naked woman armed with only

668
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: a glass bottle between them could not defend themselves against

669
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: a seething ocean of monster crabs. I felt them nipping

670
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: at my cabs, my thighs, my loins. A crab was

671
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: crawling up Pamela's body, she screamed as its pinchers. Yaha, YadA, YadA, yeah, YadA.

672
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: A lot of breast biting from the crabs here that

673
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 3: we don't necessarily need to get into. So he eventually

674
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: pulls her out of there, right or yeah, After like

675
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: a difficult fight with the crabs, he gets his hand

676
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: bitten to the bone, so he nearly loses a hand

677
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: for his troubles, but he manages to drag Pamela out,

678
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: and we get a pretty unsettling description of her mutilated

679
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: body that I will not repeat here because I do

680
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: think the writer was working for through a fetish in

681
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: this article.

682
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, she dies from the crabs. Yeah, does she

683
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: get any like last words?

684
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: No, she's dead by the time he gets her back

685
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: to shore. I don't know if the crabs actually killed her,

686
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: if she bled out, if she like drowns in the surf.

687
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: It's not really it doesn't really matter. Pamela's dad after

688
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: he gets back, there's like a scene with like our

689
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: hero and this young woman's father, where it's just made

690
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: clear that her dad doesn't care about what happened to her,

691
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: and then our hero returns home forever scarred. When I

692
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: recovered from my experience, I finished up my business in

693
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: Belize and flew back to the States. That was three

694
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: years ago. I haven't been able to go near saltwater since.

695
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: And I lay awake at night thinking of the long

696
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: limbed redhead with a calendar girl body he gave herself

697
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: to me one night in British Honduras and who met

698
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: a death of unimaginable grisliness the next day.

699
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, what a strange tale. Okay, bye, Hi if

700
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: this was true and it's not, but yeah, that I

701
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: would spend the rest of my life. Yeah, I mean, yes,

702
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: of course you would. That would be you would never

703
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: leave that moment. Yeah, or my house. No, that is

704
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: the kind of PTSD that you would never recover from.

705
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: No crab murder. Fortunately, you could write one article about

706
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: it and buy a mansion.

707
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do get a single article in a men's

708
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: adventure magazine.

709
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 4: I'm just so glad I know this very real story.

710
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think this is this has changed my

711
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: life for the better. For one thing, I'm going to

712
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: bring a weapon to the beach better than a bottle

713
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: anytime I go, because you'll never know when.

714
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: Crab You're right, You're right, You're right. He had a knife.

715
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: I was a pocket and I honestly, if I was there,

716
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: like a stick or a rock is probably going to

717
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: be a better bet against a bunch of fucking crabs.

718
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: You're not going to just like pull out a handgun,

719
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: so a shooting the ocean.

720
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: Well, I would, in fact pull out a handgun and

721
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: start firing at the ocean.

722
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: Think I know about Rob He's doing exactly that.

723
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Let's be fair here, if there's not crabs, I'm still

724
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: shooting that ocean. That's the only one that keeps the ocean.

725
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: That's why saw that gun control on the East Coast

726
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: is why they get hurricanes, that Florida gun control. Yeah right, yeah,

727
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: And you know that's that's why we need anyway, shoot

728
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: at a hurricane, folks, It's the only thing that can

729
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 3: save you from climate change. Let's move on to our

730
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: next magazine.

731
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: Uh huh, so it's called Climate Change Denial magazine from

732
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: nineteen forty.

733
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a picture of a handgun and the

734
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: weather system.

735
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like one be prepared for everything, but real things. Yes,

736
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: the name of the magazine, for example, an attack of

737
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: killer crabs. Oh god, wait, hold on, but the name

738
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: and the picture of what you've just shown me agree magazine.

739
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: Oh it's glorious. This is from December of sixty nine,

740
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: I do want to say, And yeah, you want to

741
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: describe this one for our listeners, Margaret.

742
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

743
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: Sure. There's three white women in lingerie pointing a knife,

744
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: but also sexually or like caressing a man's shoulders who's

745
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: on a bed, and there's like nothing in the background.

746
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: It's sort of an empty room and it's called Man's Combat.

747
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: And the reason that I'm upset is that these are

748
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: clearly women in combat and this is a rasure unless

749
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: actually they could be transmasculine and not expressing that visually

750
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: in a clear way, and that is totally up to them. Also,

751
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: it has headlines exposed swinging sex in women's prison. The

752
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Nazis turned them into prostitutes and paid plenty for it.

753
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Exclamation mark, Oh god, I just got to the fucking

754
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: the art. The title that goes with the cover art yes, yeah,

755
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: the hippies raped him and then they told him how

756
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: much it was going to cost exclamation mark.

757
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: I want to be clear here, we will be going

758
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: into the story. The hippies do not rape him at

759
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: any point, like this is purely this is an old

760
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: man having consensual sex with a bunch of hippies. Like don't, don't,

761
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: don't get that wrong, Like the title is not accurate.

762
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: What the kids are studying in college this year sex

763
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: exclamation mark, which is just a current right wing talking point.

764
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: And then, of course I was the love slave of

765
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: the geisha. Yeah, the Japanese geisha girls almost killed him

766
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: with affection.

767
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: Perfect.

768
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: Thanks, what a great magazine.

769
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: You don't love Man's Combat.

770
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: Oh, Robert, I don't love Man's comm I almost.

771
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: I do.

772
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Also want to note one of the girls who's the

773
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 3: one who's holding the knife on him, has big coke

774
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: bottle glasses, so you know that she's like a kind

775
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: of a mod girl, you know, right it's nineteen sixty nine, baby, right, yeah, yeah,

776
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 3: well nerd, great cover, great cover. We'll turn this magazine now.

777
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: I almost closed with a different issue of a different series,

778
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: but it was titled four Men Only, and I thought

779
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: I might violating some sort of I didn't want to

780
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: get a curse right.

781
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: From like me and Sophie wouldn't be able to hear it. Yeah,

782
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: it would just be blank space. Hugh Hefner's mummy might

783
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: come for me in the night. So this transfer of

784
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: the Men's Combat magazine, it cuts out half of the

785
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: first page of advertisements. I think because somebody cut out

786
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: one of the ads for some purpose. But it looks

787
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: like it was an ad for a muscle supplement scheme,

788
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: which does fit entirely with the kind of publications that

789
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: these are. Oh yeah, yeah.

790
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: How to gain up to fifty pounds of mighty muscles.

791
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: How to develop sixteen to eighteen and a half inch

792
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: big arms powerful enough to land a knockout blow.

793
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: Fast, Oh my god, nothing changes.

794
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: How to build a forty five to fifty two inch

795
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 3: heroic chest housing tireless lungs for endurance and works sports

796
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: or for attracting girls all gaps. How to mold a

797
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: broad muscle packed back, and wonder why Superman's shoulders tapering

798
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: to a slim punch proof weist.

799
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: I ever heard of a weights described that way? Punchproof?

800
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Oh, first off, folks, a slim waist is never punchproof.

801
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: If you want a punchproof guy, go go look at

802
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: a powerlifter. Look at one of those guys who can

803
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: deadlift seven hundred and fifty pounds. Like, look at that

804
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: guy's belly. That's a punchproof West. You can hit that guy's.

805
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Belly all day long and you're not gonna make any progress. Yeah.

806
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Whatever, fascinating, fascinating period of time.

807
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: So that never ended.

808
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: Now I am absolutely certain that this product, whatever supplement

809
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: this guy is selling to help people put on muscle,

810
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: has killed people. But it's probably beaten in deadliness by

811
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: the next ad, which is a home study course to

812
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: become an electrician. And the reason why I say it's

813
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: deadly is there's a little cartoon at the top with

814
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: two men talking to each other, and one man's said,

815
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: do you mean I can learn to be a skilled

816
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: electrician by studying at home in spare time? Yes, the

817
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: other says, and earn while you learn thanks to advanced

818
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: shop method draining.

819
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Now, hell yeah.

820
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: I don't think people should be doing professional electrical work

821
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: until they've been licensed and bonded. What But that's my

822
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: attitude on being an electrician.

823
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: Why do you hate dy to stand in a puddle.

824
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, stand in a puddle barefoot and just start

825
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: poking wires.

826
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually helps disperse the electricity in a larger area.

827
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: You may not know that, but uh yeah, you want

828
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: to be barefoot and ideally standing in water if you're

829
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: doing any kind of work with electricity.

830
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: You don't pay for the extra for those cuck boots.

831
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: No, no, those just keep the electricity in and endanger you.

832
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: You can find more tips like this and Robert and

833
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: Margaret's Guide to Surviving Dangerous Situations for people we hate

834
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: you know, here's another free tip. Got a grease fire,

835
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: water that son of a bitch. No, as much water

836
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: as you can dump on that grease fire. Really, it's

837
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: the opposite of fire, obviously, right, if that's how you

838
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: want to deal with a grease fire. But only if

839
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: we hate you.

840
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Only if we hate you.

841
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: If we do not hate you, do not take this

842
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: advice or by this book. Yeah, so we should go

843
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: to ads at this point, including ads for in Margaret's

844
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: exciting new book How to Survive Dangerous Circumstances. If you're

845
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: a person that we don't like very much, that's right,

846
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: which we'll be giving out for free at seapack next year,

847
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: We're back.

848
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Ah.

849
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: So Man's Combat next provides us with its table of

850
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: contents page, which which gives us some summaries for each

851
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: of the stories. There's sex orgies on campus. They don't

852
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: give some kids degrees in what they're studying. Every night,

853
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: women's prisons. The chicks behind the bars quickly learn how

854
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: to make out without men. Yeah, great, incredible. The Nazis

855
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: died smiling. The Huns turned them, turned them into high

856
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: priced prostitutes, but the girls made them pay too much

857
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: in the end.

858
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: Oh, this is this is two separate things. I thought

859
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: the Nazis died smiling because the Huns turned them into.

860
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: No, No, it's the Germans make these. Well we'll get

861
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: into this. Yeah, but anyway, I was the love slave

862
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: of the geisha. This is by Lieutenant G. E. Lavelle,

863
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: US Navy. They whipped him, tortured him, and almost loved

864
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: him to death. Murph the Surf, the golden boy of crime.

865
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: They convicted him of murder and sentenced him to a

866
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: life in prison. Will he beat this rap to the

867
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: boudoir Battle of Washington, d C. The Russian thought she

868
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: was smitten with his charms, but she was after the

869
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: secrets in his briefcase. And then of course the hippies

870
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 3: raped me and made me pay. They didn't have much

871
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: as much trouble talking him into it as expected. Kent, okay, whatever,

872
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get into man Man's Combat for its

873
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: improper use of terms like that. Also, the very next

874
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: page after this is straight up softcore pornography, several pages

875
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: of it, so we're not going to get into that.

876
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: We're going to get into a story next. But after

877
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: that softcore pornography, there's two pages of ads, and these

878
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: provide a searing look into the male psyche circa nineteen

879
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 3: sixty nine, a better one than I've gotten before.

880
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: It is basically the same as.

881
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: The male Psyche circa twenty twenty three. So we've got

882
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: shape up, muscle up, shop, build muscles, gain weight, lose weight,

883
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: everything you need to muscle up and make out. That's

884
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: the first ad, which is for I guess, a series

885
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: of videos on how to get muscles and make out

886
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: with girls. Then the second ad is for this killer

887
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: karate crusher all three ks. I don't like that gives

888
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: you pulverizing hand power. Don't understand. I think it's just

889
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: a rock to hit people with. The end of the

890
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: skinny body is a Yeah, gain fourteen p in fourteen days,

891
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 3: that's us healthy. Yeah, that seems like a sustainable rate

892
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: of gain here for masculine virility. Create a new exciting

893
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: fun going you the slim guard. I think it's literally

894
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: selling like a fucking shatner. What do you call those things?

895
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: You use it to tighten it around your belly?

896
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: The you mean like body shaping stuff or like yeah, yeah, yeah,

897
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: chicle belts that like, no, no, no.

898
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a body shaping deal. Yeah, the slim guard. Yeah.

899
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: And then there's loose thirty five pounds in a few weeks.

900
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: That's probably just methamphetamine.

901
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, given the healthy rate of health, yeah, weight loss,

902
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: all of this seems healthy.

903
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: I wonder why half this generation died at forty one

904
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: from heart attacks now.

905
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: No clue. Probably the woke agenda. Probably the wok agenda. Yeah.

906
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: Next we get the monthly news segment Hot Flashes for Men,

907
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: which starts with a paragraph long blurb about a bunch

908
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: of former wax who are suing the military because they

909
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: got accused of being lesbians and thus suffered harms to

910
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: their careers and reputations. Now, what's a whack a whack

911
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: is women's.

912
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Air Corps or auxiliary Corps.

913
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: I think it was basically like if you were a

914
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: woman and wanted to serve in the military in World

915
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: War II. Obviously our military was not gender integrated then,

916
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: but the whax are like how women could serve and

917
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: contribute to the war effort as part of the actual

918
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 3: like defense department.

919
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: So it was, yeah, it was.

920
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: It was a military service kind of deal. And this

921
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 3: is a story about like, it's really just a blurb

922
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: about these women who like got accused of being lesbians

923
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: and like lost their careers, but there was never any

924
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: evidentiary hearing at all, and so they were like suing

925
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: the government over that.

926
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: That's actually kind of interesting.

927
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the story is just kind of like, again, this

928
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: is hot Flashes for men. I think literally the only

929
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: reason this is included is because they get to use

930
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: the word lesbian, like these ladies.

931
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.

932
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: They were excited by that. After that, we get this

933
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: fascinating section. If you have a taste for pornography and

934
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: haven't been getting enough of the real thing, why not

935
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: organize a chapter of citizens for decent literature in your neighborhood.

936
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 3: The CDL is a highly respectable group which has appointed

937
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: itself the guardians of public morals, vested with the responsibility

938
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: of protecting all of us from our baser selves. In

939
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: doing so, the various CDL chapters must first view the

940
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: objectionable materials, whether the smut and the former printed literature,

941
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: stag films or whatever. These meetings are often heavily attended,

942
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: and even more attended by heavy.

943
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: Breathing, flushed faces, and a high degree of prurient prudishness.

944
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: That's funny.

945
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: I can think of very few things I want to

946
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: do less than be in a room full of nineteen

947
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: fifty seven dudes and watching whatever a stag film is.

948
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Also, just there's so many layers. Yeah, there's a lot

949
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: going on in that one. Huh. They're admitting that most

950
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: anti porn crusaders are just porn addicts. Well yeah, I

951
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: mean this is a porn im stock died with a

952
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: warehouse full of all the pornography had been like confiscated.

953
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, in fairness to them, I think they are

954
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: like purposefully doing this is total. This is they're making

955
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: fun of, like the people who don't like.

956
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: Although for a little while I thought they were just

957
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: earnestly selling antiforn ads in their porn magazine, which also

958
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: kind of rules just as a way to be like whatever,

959
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: we're getting money.

960
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: So enough of that crap. We're going to start with

961
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: the story The Nazis Died Smiling, which has an incredible

962
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 3: title art piece. Right, that's this is this. This one's

963
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: a banger. You get a great drawing of a Nazi.

964
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: He's like in the doorframe with a woman in lingerie's

965
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: like leading him into the room.

966
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: There's like a naked lady.

967
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 4: In bed, missing an eye or something.

968
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got well, he's like a Prussian officer, so

969
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 3: he's got like what do you call those, like a monocle. Right,

970
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: and then behind the door is like another woman in lingerie,

971
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 3: but with a fucking stiletto knife. She's she's gonna stab

972
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: the ship out of this Nazi. Pretty dope. I say, yeah,

973
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: this it's based on true stories.

974
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: There are absolutely women in the resistance, and you're like, oh, yeah,

975
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: come with me into the woods, totally not going to murder.

976
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: You also just love the normal proportions they've given these

977
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: women's bodies.

978
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, just very normal French peasant girls. Yeah. Yeah.

979
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: So after a brief summary of why Nazis are bad,

980
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: we get told that the German invasion of France. During

981
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: the German invasion of France, an SS unit with their

982
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: general took over a nunnery. They massacred all of the

983
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: older women and then they raped all of the nuns. Now,

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: the author of this takes great pains to tell us

985
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: in a talisized text that every girl had been a

986
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: virgin before sun up. Every girl had been ravaged many times.

987
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: So that's unpleasant. There's a lot of unpleasantness. But then

988
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: the girls who survived the night decide, what if we

989
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: become fake prostitutes in order to entrap and murder Nazis?

990
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, which is pretty cool.

991
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: This starts with them, like they decide to like hold

992
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: a party for these Nazis who are occupying the nunnery

993
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: and they feed them arsenic and murder them all fuck yeah,

994
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: which is fine, And then yeah, you get this kind

995
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: of you know, pretty fun story about traumatized nuns ensnaring

996
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: Nazi officers and.

997
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: Brutally murdering them. As you noted, there are.

998
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: Some real events like this, some actual women who like

999
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: would entice Nazi officers into their beds, often acting as prostitutes,

1000
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: and then murder them as part of organized resistance plots. Yeah,

1001
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: specifically though, and this is the thing that's messed up

1002
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: about this. This story is based on a real tragic story,

1003
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: the tale of the Blessed Martyrs of Noah Grodek. Okay,

1004
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: I think kind of based on it, because this is

1005
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: one of the better known stories about like Nazis killing

1006
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of nuns, right, and you know, this story

1007
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: starts stated in France, but other aspects of it are

1008
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: kind of similar. And the gist of it is that

1009
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: in nineteen forty three, the Gestapo are like massacring a

1010
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: bunch of civilians, specifically a lot of Jewish civilians in

1011
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: this uh Polish town, you know, no Noah Grodek and

1012
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: a bunch of a group of the nuns basically like

1013
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: come forward to the Gestapo in public and are like,

1014
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: take and murder us instead of murdering these people. And

1015
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: because they do it in public, it like the Gestapo

1016
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: temporarily has to cancel a bunch of deportations and stop

1017
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: because like they looked really bad. In front of the

1018
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: whole town, and it's like a dangerous situation for them.

1019
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: They do eventually punish the nuns by like coming and

1020
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: grabbing them and murdering them all. I think they kill

1021
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: eleven nuns something like that, all of whom are like

1022
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: not sainted. But another thing that the Catholic Church does

1023
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: to say you were pretty rad.

1024
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't think I would know it, but I don't. Yeah.

1025
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like an actual tragic story, I mean,

1026
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: an also heroic story of these ones who like gave

1027
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: their lives to try to protect a bunch of you

1028
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: know people from being murdered.

1029
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: By the Nazis. Yeah.

1030
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: I think they've kind of taken part of that because

1031
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: it involves nuns and turned it into a fetish story.

1032
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: So, you know, yeah, men's adventure stories. Hooray, Yeah, hooray.

1033
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: Next we get a horny college story and then a

1034
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: bunch of dimpled pin up tales, the story of a

1035
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: sexy surf bum murderer and then swinging sex in women's prisons.

1036
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I was saying about the surf the surf murderer,

1037
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: because they've got the hatchet wielding hitchhiker guy Kai the hit.

1038
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I did like Kai up

1039
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: until it became clear that he was also a murderer.

1040
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 2: Well, I hold that it is possible that his story

1041
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: about what happened was true and that he was defending

1042
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: himself from I think it's entirely bosler John anyway. Yeah,

1043
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: it's an unfortunate tale. Yeah, and completely unrelated. Sorry.

1044
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: It's one of those situations where he was a hero

1045
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: in a situation in which an axe was the best

1046
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: tool to use, and then he was in another situation

1047
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: which it might not have been but uh.

1048
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: Right, or it could have been, but it was not

1049
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: publicly acceptable. Yeah, it's hard to tell. Yeah, difficult tale.

1050
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: This is not that story.

1051
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: Although we can try and go back and talk about

1052
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: the Sexy surf bumb if you want.

1053
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: All right, I just got excited about Kay the Sexy

1054
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: surf bumb mercer.

1055
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: Anyway, Swinging Sex and Women's Prison is the next one,

1056
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 3: and then after that it's s e X The Love

1057
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: Slave of the Geisha, which has some of the one

1058
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: of the first pieces of like straight up like bondage

1059
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: art I've seen in one of these, so that's interesting.

1060
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: It's like a man tied to four corners of a bed.

1061
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, yeah, there, you know.

1062
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like male submissiveness in this, right,

1063
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 2: This is like, yes, a lot of like women as

1064
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: the active agent of yes, trickery and assault. And it's interesting.

1065
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things about that is

1066
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: because obviously they are servicing a group of men who

1067
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: are attracted to that, who find who fantasize about that,

1068
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: but also don't feel like they can fantasize, so the

1069
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: fantasy has to be I have been put in a

1070
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: situation which I legitimately don't have a choice, right opposed

1071
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: to like you wouldn't. These probably are not meant for

1072
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: people who actually like do this kind of play. It's

1073
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: meant for people who, like you need an excuse to

1074
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: feel like, well, you know, this is a situation in which, oh,

1075
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: you know, he just had no other option. The hippies

1076
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: tied him down, and you know, what else could he

1077
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: do but submit? It's yeah, it is interesting. And speaking

1078
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 3: of what, let's get to that hippie story. Excellent, because

1079
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: this one has quite an opener, Margaret. Of all the

1080
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: stories we've seen, this is probably most honest about its

1081
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: intended audience, which is sad horny white guys who live

1082
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 3: in suburbia and are board as hell.

1083
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1084
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm a married man with three children, and I own

1085
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: a small hardware store and a town in Massachusetts. I

1086
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: belong to the Rotary Club, the Chamber of Commerce, and

1087
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm a deacon in my church. I'm a really solid citizen.

1088
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 3: Ask anyone who knows me. It's all upfront, though deep down,

1089
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm the same man I was twenty years ago when

1090
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: I drank too much, slept with every girl I could

1091
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: get into bed, and some of the things I did

1092
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: with and two the women I had weren't very pretty.

1093
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: Then I met Emily, cleaned up the mess of my life.

1094
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: I went to church with her regularly and tried not

1095
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: to get caught aggling the women and the congregation, and

1096
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 3: then subsequently went into business. Twenty years and three children later,

1097
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm about as dola character as you're apt to find

1098
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: on any rotary or sea of c luncheon. Inside, though

1099
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: I haven't changed. There's a motel I drive to about

1100
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: twice a month where I know a fairly pretty young

1101
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: prostitute will be waiting. I take fantastic pains not to

1102
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: be caught, and so far, I've been lucky. There have

1103
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: been a few women I've met in my store who

1104
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: let me know they'd be delighted to have a little

1105
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: extra marital fun, but I avoided going all the way

1106
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: with them. It seems safe enough, but each time I

1107
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: backed down at the last minute. It's like you can

1108
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: see who this is being marketed towards, right, And there's

1109
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: even that thing about like, well, I used to be

1110
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: a wild man, because like, yeah, you want to feel like, ah,

1111
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: I was just these this wife and kids that took

1112
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: me out of my wild years where I was cool the.

1113
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: Arrow to the knee proverbially speaking.

1114
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, his was Emily. So now, look, my

1115
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: heart does go out to this guy because he is

1116
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: clearly unable to communicate with his wife and probably in

1117
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 3: everyone else and his wife, which is probably I think

1118
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 3: accurately describes a kind of guy whose heart exploded after

1119
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: two years of you know, too many years of chainsmoking

1120
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 3: cigarettes and being filled with resentment.

1121
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1122
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a decent.

1123
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: Chunk of that generation that was their Vietnam also Vietnam.

1124
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, he spends he spends several paragraphs giving us

1125
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: descriptions of all the things he likes seeing on younger women,

1126
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: and then we unfortunately find out what young means in

1127
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 3: this context, my teenage daughter's friends are another source of temptation.

1128
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: Now that's a sentence that should never be written.

1129
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there's that whole American beauty.

1130
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's still you can you can find very

1131
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: recent movies fantasizing about this.

1132
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1133
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's a creepy he puts it, speaking of

1134
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: American beauty. I put a concrete pool in my backyard

1135
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 3: a year ago, and all the kids hang out back there.

1136
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean, some of them really do hang out. The

1137
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: way they make bait. I don't want to read this line, Margaret,

1138
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 3: but it's it is kind of too revealing to not read,

1139
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: all right, the way they make bathing suits today. It's

1140
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: a wonder there isn't a mass rape daily at the

1141
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: public beaches.

1142
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: So what if we put all them like this?

1143
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: Son of an Island, Yeah yeah, speaking of your book,

1144
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Escape from in Cell Island, Yeah, what a what a

1145
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: dark dive? This is like, uh, what you might call it?

1146
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: What's that book? Uh, the one that they made Apocalypse

1147
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: Now based off.

1148
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: Of Heart of Darkness.

1149
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Heart of Darkness very hearted darkness moment for us here, Margaret. Yeah,

1150
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: so the basic the gist of the story is that

1151
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: like he notices these hot hippy chicks out in front

1152
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: of his store, and then eventually, while he's locking up

1153
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: after work, they've broken into his car and they're like

1154
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: sitting in there, and yes they do, they do call

1155
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: him daddy, oh several times.

1156
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that's important.

1157
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: He tries to get them to leave, but they basically

1158
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: ask him to like take them to a motel and

1159
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: then once they get there, they like take his keys,

1160
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: so he like follows them into the room to get

1161
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: his keys back, and then they like hold him at

1162
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: knife point, and like there's a light scene where they

1163
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: like threaten him a little bit, but it's it's he's

1164
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: clearly enjoying it. And then you know, they all have

1165
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: sex with him and then he becomes their pimp and

1166
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: it's a happy ending until they until they get arrested

1167
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: for I think robbing a bank, wait, bust in the police.

1168
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: They get busted in a police rate and then they

1169
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: send him a letter from jail being like thanks for

1170
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: all of the pimping.

1171
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So it's like they're like the weather

1172
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 2: underground basically they're like.

1173
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, I think it was more they got

1174
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: arrested for being sex workers.

1175
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh, they said they were robbing a bank.

1176
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: I thought that that was me being wrong. I think

1177
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: it was. I think it was a look. I had

1178
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: to read through a lot of these stories.

1179
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm sure they all blurn again.

1180
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they certainly do. So, Margaret, that's most of

1181
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: what I've got for you this week.

1182
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do wanna.

1183
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: I do want to end with with one lasd title,

1184
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: with one last cover page of a magazine. Perhaps we

1185
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: should have gotten to but boy, maybe next time.

1186
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 2: Maybe so much time I day.

1187
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's called Rage for Men, and the art

1188
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: the cover art is two very English explorers with like

1189
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: white pit helmets and they're fighting off. It would look

1190
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: like rabid dogs. It's called Fangs at my Throat. They

1191
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: have such horrified looks on their face.

1192
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: They're they're white people, but they're red. They are because

1193
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: they're British. Right, They've been drinking.

1194
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: They've been mainlining nothing but gin and tonics for seventy

1195
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: three years.

1196
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Yeah, and then the some of the

1197
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: other things that says on there is is a woman

1198
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: making you impotent. It's your fault. I can't get it up.

1199
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: Which is right above the Cortisan who ran for president.

1200
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Are women coming in to destroy your life? Try rage?

1201
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: Yes they have. They have been trying that fairly effectively

1202
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: unfortunately for a very long time.

1203
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: Elvis Presley defends rock and roll. Sure, that's a fascinating interview.

1204
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1205
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: And then of course Fangs in my Throat, which is

1206
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: the cover story of these British men being beaten or

1207
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: murdered by dogs.

1208
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: That is the one upside of all of this is

1209
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: that the dogs are gonna win.

1210
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1211
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: I do think the dogs are gonna win. They've got

1212
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: that one dude by the throat, so I felt pretty

1213
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 3: good about their chances.

1214
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1215
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: Well, mag Pie, do you understand you know, the older generation,

1216
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: you know of both of writers and editors, you know

1217
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: of in cells any better now sadly?

1218
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, that is the price of this show. That

1219
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: is the price of this show. I think I do

1220
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: understand them that the nothing ever changesness of it is

1221
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: the like, really is a woman or it? And it's

1222
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: like pointing out it's all the stuff that you're like

1223
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: because I mostly read feminism from this period, right, Yeah,

1224
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: and so I read all this feminism and some of

1225
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: the things that they're like saying that the men are doing.

1226
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, were they really or are you like exaggerating

1227
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: or like what And they're like reading, You're like no, no,

1228
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: it's they are blaming women for making them impotent and

1229
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: can't actually have honest fantasies about being submissive to women,

1230
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: so they must create like elaborate systems around it, and

1231
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, it is the is the it's not

1232
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: a it's a portal into a damaged psyche.

1233
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: It is a portal, like it is a portal, like

1234
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: the The the healthiest and least problematic article here from

1235
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: like a like a a sex and gender point of

1236
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: view is the story about a woman being murdered by crabs.

1237
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is not great, but yeah it's not great,

1238
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know it is.

1239
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: It is by far the least problematic thing we've discussed

1240
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: in these in these episodes.

1241
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, please cut this out. Could I read the

1242
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: first page of Insult Island? Yeah? Sure, why not? I'm

1243
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: going to go grab a copy.

1244
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: Oh, we never left. I don't know why I'm doing

1245
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: my returning back thing. It's because we had an idea Margaret.

1246
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: We had a great idea, because this is this is

1247
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: your Christmas present, your bizarre prelapsarian Orthodox Rosicrucian crypto.

1248
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: Cryptomalogy.

1249
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, something like that.

1250
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1251
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't know enough Christianity to make a better joke

1252
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: about your obscure Christmas. You want to read it from

1253
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: your novel that people should buy.

1254
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, because we're talking about pulp fic. So

1255
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to read the first, first page, first couple

1256
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: paragraphs of Escape from innsul Island.

1257
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: Excellent. Yeah, let's do it. Let's let's entice them a

1258
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: much better story than the stories we've read today. Although

1259
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: maybe nobody does get eaten by crabs.

1260
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 2: I give the crabs story there. I know there's people

1261
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: who would try to feed people the crabs in this,

1262
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: but they come lately. Yeah. They don't call me man

1263
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: Killer Jones for nothing. They call me man Killer Jones

1264
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: because I tell people that's my name, and I kind

1265
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: of throw a fit if anyone calls me anything else. Honestly,

1266
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: I have a feeling most people call me Shirley behind

1267
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: my back or mixed Jones if they're feeling formal. It

1268
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me too much what people call me, because

1269
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm never around to hear it. I'm always too busy

1270
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: infiltrating and x filtrating the deadliest places on Earth. War

1271
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: and disaster would be my middle name if I hadn't

1272
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: already legally changed my middle name to danger. I only

1273
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: feel alive when I'm surrounded by the dead, the dying,

1274
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: and the people who don't know they're about to find

1275
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: themselves in those categories. I only feel alive in the

1276
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: hottest of hot spots, spots like in Cell Island, which

1277
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: inched over the horizon to greet us as the sun

1278
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: rose behind us.

1279
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 3: Excellent, very exciting. So check out Escape from in Cell Island.

1280
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful story. And Margaret, is it possible? And

1281
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm completely coming out of left field here, no idea

1282
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: if this is the case, really just inventing shit and

1283
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: putting you on the spot for it. Is it possible

1284
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: that there's some sort of story based podcast, like a

1285
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: short fiction show that's going to be launching in a

1286
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: place where people can listen to it and hear fun

1287
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: stories about you know, collapse and survival and endurance and

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Speaker 3: all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Should we call it the Cool Zone Book Club, and

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Speaker 2: I was thinking we could. It could come out starting

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Speaker 2: October eighth of this year, and it could be an

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Speaker 2: every Sunday addition to it could happen and hear feed,

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Speaker 2: so it's already in the feed that you already listen to.

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Speaker 3: That's an incredible pitch. Yes, yes, it could be. Well

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Speaker 3: everyone you've got that to look forward to short stories

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Speaker 3: and longer stories as well, coming every weekend to the

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Speaker 3: it could happen here feed in order to basically derive

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Speaker 3: a sneaky way of paying people for fiction again, which

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Speaker 3: gets harder and harder every year, so somebody ought to try.

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Speaker 2: And also because I think it's like the itch that

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Speaker 2: these stories from these old magazines, even like it's a

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Speaker 2: specific itch, you know. And I think that that's also

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Speaker 2: one that because the market is so hard to it's

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Speaker 2: so gone, we want to encourage people to be writing

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Speaker 2: these stories because we want to hear them. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love short stories. I grew up reading a lot

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Speaker 3: of like you know, Lovecraft and Asimov and all those.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they were mostly men. But that's a not

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Speaker 3: a problem with the concept of a short story just right.

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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 3: It's like like journalism, which we also try to find

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Speaker 3: ways to pay feet before here rid cool Zone. It's

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Speaker 3: gotten like thinner and thinner on the ground, actual places

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Speaker 3: like public and there are some there are some really

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Speaker 3: great magazines still out there where you can read much

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Speaker 3: higher grade short stories than these men's adventure magazines from

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Speaker 3: the fifties and sixties. And all of the editors keeping

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Speaker 3: those places alive are are are heroic and great and

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Speaker 3: that's why you are going to be joining them soon

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Speaker 3: and doing that. But in podcast for.

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Speaker 2: Hooray, so yeah, check it out and there'll be more

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Speaker 2: information about it on it Sundays. Yes, it could happen.

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Speaker 3: Here Sundays when it could happen here, Well, folks, that's

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Speaker 3: going to probably do it for all of us here. Yeah, yep, yep, bye,

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Speaker 3: go to Hell.

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Speaker 2: I Love you.

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Speaker 4: Behind the Bastards is a production of cool Zone Media.

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Speaker 4: For more from cool Zone Media, visit our website Coolzonemedia

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Speaker 4: dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.