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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my good buddies with cul Timber Productions,

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Speaker 1: Bryant Sentmon and Corey Toombs. Welcome to the show, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Jeb absolutely yeah, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how far back, you know, our

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Speaker 1: relationship goes. I think it was probably at the Pacific

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Speaker 1: Northwest Sportsman Show, you know, us in our booth, you

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Speaker 1: guys walking by, and I think you know about that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what was it seven eight

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Speaker 1: years ago you guys started. Is that correct? Is that

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Speaker 1: timeline correct about when you guys started it is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when we started this you were one

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Speaker 2: of the first partners we started speaking with and that

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Speaker 2: was twenty seventeen. So we had started talking to you

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Speaker 2: a couple of years before that, hunting around the Pacific

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Speaker 2: Northwest here. But in terms of Haul Timber origination, around

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen is when we started.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And you know, I like to say I've

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Speaker 1: got a knack for when you talk to somebody, you

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Speaker 1: know who they are. They're good guys, they're good hunters,

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Speaker 1: and so like I was, you know, drawn to you guys,

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Speaker 1: wanted to work with you, and you know, fast forward

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, you guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: a successful Elk Obsession project which we've been able to

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Speaker 1: be a part of and collab on that, which we're

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Speaker 1: going to get to more more later. But yeah, you

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Speaker 1: guys do it right. You guys are successful and like

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't wait to kind of explain the

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Speaker 1: Elk Obsession story and where the project came from and

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Speaker 1: what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. And I think a nice thing

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Speaker 2: is having in common with you hunting here in the

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Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest. It seems like when you cut your teeth here,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can find success kind of wherever you go.

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Speaker 2: At least that's what we like to tell ourselves.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's true. And in every I've got

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Speaker 1: to imagine more of our listeners aren't from Washington and Oregon,

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Speaker 1: So I'm probably gonna make more people upset than I am. Like,

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Speaker 1: agree with me, but we've seen it a lot right

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Speaker 1: where guys from here. If you're a if you're a

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Speaker 1: quote unquote killer around home, you're gonna be good wherever

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Speaker 1: you go. Now, we've taken lots of guys that, you know,

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Speaker 1: celebrity hunters or very successful hunters show up here on

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Speaker 1: the coast and they're like, oh, we didn't have any success.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's true, not saying it always works

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Speaker 1: that way, but I'm I'm pretty confident that a coastal

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Speaker 1: Roosevelt elk killer can go anywhere in the world and

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Speaker 1: be good.

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Speaker 3: You understand the struggle.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, Yeah, it's it's uh when you cut your

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Speaker 1: teeth here, they're they're razor sharp. I guess when you

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Speaker 1: when you go out to the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: the elk hunt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, when it comes to

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Speaker 2: pressure and thick country and places that people don't want

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Speaker 2: you know, you find ways to be consistently successful in

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Speaker 2: that environment. Yeah. The eye openers when you start going

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Speaker 2: somewhere else where you can see elk and they view

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and uh Now I feel like though

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Speaker 1: you know, we got I feel like I grew up

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Speaker 1: in the heydays maybe or like just right on the

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Speaker 1: edge of the heyday's kind of declining, where it was

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Speaker 1: like it was as good as it got like I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say it was easy, but even for Roosevelt,

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Speaker 1: like it was some of the spots we hunted were

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Speaker 1: pretty dang easy. Now it's you know, it's like video

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Speaker 1: games when you're a kid, Like you could beat the

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Speaker 1: game on like beginner level, right, but then you crank

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Speaker 1: it up the expert and you can't get Like now,

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Speaker 1: it's like hunting on level expert around home, Like if

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Speaker 1: you're consistently killing elk, like I I trust you can

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Speaker 1: kill elk, you know, even more so anywhere because we

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Speaker 1: just don't have near the elk we did just you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one thing to note is Brian and

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Speaker 3: we don't know what the heyday was, so we don't

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Speaker 3: know any better. Yeah, like we just we just this

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Speaker 3: is going to be the struggle. This is what it takes,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, we don't we don't know what that heyday

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, and you could. I think most hunters, if

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Speaker 1: and and do it right. So yeah, that's uh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna roll in. So usually we do like two to

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Speaker 1: three like hand fed questions here, but we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: off with some just absolutely random questions. And I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to see your guys's reasoning. And I didn't give these

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm I'm picking a pack of wolves because

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Speaker 2: they do the most damage on elk, right, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: All Uh, it was gonna be wolves or a mountain lion,

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Speaker 3: So I'll take a mountain non.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. When my head was out when I

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Speaker 1: first read the question, I'm like, what would what would

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Speaker 1: I I pick? But it's got to be wolves, right,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a cougar hunting by yourself, you might

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Speaker 1: be just aspective as a wolf. So I think those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you like to call in bulls, you

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Speaker 2: know you want to be vocal. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, you can howl and like direct

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Speaker 2: A wolf, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, what's the weirdest or most unexpected things you guys

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 3: Brian and I were on the coast one year and uh,

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Speaker 3: we you have to remind me on the music, but

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Speaker 3: we were sleeping in the back of the truck, just

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Speaker 3: I think Bryant had the tag. And it's probably two

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Speaker 3: in the morning and we're in the middle of nowhere

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Speaker 2: It was like metal right, yeah, total tweaker status for sure, and.

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Speaker 3: We were like, are we gonna have to get out?

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Speaker 3: And like we got the handguns there, like what's going on?

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Speaker 3: And they were like shouting and yelling and screaming at

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Speaker 3: each other and we're like what, Like I thought I

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Speaker 3: got away from the city. But yeah, it was definitely

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Speaker 3: a surprise right before opening day with the at two

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Speaker 1: Just somebody miss going to party in the woods or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, picking the same dead end road we did.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and as hard as it is to sleep,

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Speaker 2: you know, prior to like going out El Cunning, you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, really helped makes you make sure you're

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Speaker 1: your best on an opening day there. That's right mine,

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Speaker 1: I'll share mine a little bit. And I'm like anti alien,

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Speaker 1: like anti all of this stuff. Right now. I was

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Speaker 1: quote unquote Alien country. All the weird stuff that down

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Speaker 1: there and uh still unidentified, like red and orange glowing

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Speaker 1: at night, I wouldn't believe it if I wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: I still don't necessarily know what it was, if it

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Speaker 1: I just stopped looking at it and thought if I

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Speaker 1: it like lightning flashes of light, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, that's I don't like this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in that sort of like I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily you know, but it definitely bothered me

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Speaker 2: So, uh, yeah, I can see why you wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to do the men in Black thing where they put

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Speaker 1: I guess Roswell was the talent. Let's so you like

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Speaker 1: area that supposedly has most of that activity in the

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Speaker 2: There's got any chances? Yeah, what are What are the

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Speaker 2: chances though, that all the sightings happen in that same area?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: That's something funny?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. If you guys could swap lives with

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Speaker 1: any historical hunting figure for a week, who would it be?

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Speaker 3: WHOA Uh, I'm gonna go with Jim Shockey. I think

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Speaker 3: that's just one that growing up watching the Outdoor Channel

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Speaker 3: and just thinking about all the adventures and everything that

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Speaker 3: he's seen, like culture and places and different animals, and

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Speaker 3: I mean all the way down to all the food

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Speaker 3: that he tries, and I think, uh just I mean

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Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that's a good one. Let's see, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: not much of a history buff, so, but I think

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Speaker 2: he's a few years older than me. I might have

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Speaker 2: to just go with Remy. You know, Remy's a guy

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Speaker 2: that's been in the Elkwood's probably more than anyone I

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Speaker 2: can think of, and the variety of being able to

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Speaker 2: guide hunters go out get it done with a traditional bow,

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Speaker 2: a compound. Yeah, that's that's probably you know, someone that

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Speaker 2: I would like to spend a few hunting seasons in

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Speaker 2: their shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I thought about this question as I was

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Speaker 1: getting it all laid out, and I'm like Gordon Eastman

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Speaker 1: thing and got to hunt some really cool stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: stone sheep, doll sheep, all of that. And then like

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Speaker 1: of course Fred Behar, you know, he kind of got

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Speaker 1: to hunt in the heydays. So it's like I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you guys are gonna make me feel like

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Speaker 2: some things up, that's for sure. So yeah, that's as

437
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: you know, there's definitely some of those scenarios that just

438
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: trying to run a camera and a tripod, and especially

439
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: in those early days, you're just gonna blow some things up.

440
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: And I would just tell myself enjoy the journey. You know,

441
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: if you stick with it, there's gonna be even more

442
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: of those in their place.

443
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's something male echo would be enjoying the journey.

444
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: I think early on you're enjoying the journey, and then

445
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 3: everyone's kind of guilty of this would be you look

446
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: at social media and you see all these bulls dying

447
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 3: and different age classes, and you start trying to compare,

448
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: and you get you can get lost in the in

449
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: the end result and only the end result. And I

450
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: think when you lose track of the journey and growing

451
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 3: as an individual, growing as a hunter, becoming well rounded,

452
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: that's an important thing and don't lose loose track of that,

453
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 3: because that's when you're truly having fun and enjoying the

454
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 3: outdoors and joy enjoying the hunt and joining your your

455
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: hunting partner in the camp. So that would be something

456
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: that I would share with my myself.

457
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 1: Gotcha, good good advice if you had to go on

458
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: a on a one month hunting trip, so back to

459
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: the lamper's style, He's going to be out in the

460
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: woods for a month and not have to check back in.

461
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: But you can only bring one food eye them to

462
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: eat the whole time. What would it be.

463
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm cheating here, but I would just

464
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: be like peaks. I could. I could survive on on

465
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 3: peaks easy, but that's a whole meal, so I don't

466
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 3: know if that counts.

467
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, just you're just screwing dehydrated the whole time.

468
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could survive. I mean, my my hunting partner

469
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: whoever I'm with, might not might not like that after

470
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 3: a while.

471
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's see, I'd probably have to go more

472
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: of the jerky route. Yeah, jerky or pepperoni. I feel

473
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: like just some solid protein can can keep me going,

474
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, and I can't eat too much sugar too

475
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: often when I'm out there, it just messes me up.

476
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: So sticking with jerky might get me by Yeah.

477
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it too, and I think I

478
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: would probably you know, have to have to like lean

479
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: towards like a Loan Dieger, you know, something that's like

480
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: temperature stable, but you could eat meat the whole time

481
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: and you know, me eventually's gonna turn out there. But

482
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: like Lon Dieger, I think is like built for just

483
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, the entire ride, and it would be something

484
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Pemmican, which is I'm not a huge

485
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: fan of the flavor at times, but it's like, you know,

486
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: that's what the the old timers used to eat on

487
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: the long journeys, and it's like you could probably make

488
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: do with that. But you know, similar to you Briant,

489
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't. I try to stay away

490
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: from sugar at times, but then when I do, it's

491
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: like then you're just living off a sour patch kids

492
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: as you hike up and down the trails, and it's

493
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: just like it's either all in or all out. Yeah.

494
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Corey should have plenty of suggestions because that's he

495
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: does more eating than hunting. Out there usually. So yeah,

496
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: I feel like when I get into hunt mode, I

497
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: just I know you have to force yourself to eat sometimes,

498
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: but it's I struggle to just pack down a lot

499
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: of calories and I'll find myself running at a pretty

500
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: big deficit for five six days in a row. Yeah.

501
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, Corey, he does more eating than hunting usually.

502
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I'm not built like you guys. I'm a

503
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: little thicker, so like my body can take the five

504
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: to six days. You guys don't have a whole lot

505
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: of days of reserve built up.

506
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it would usually drop ten or fifteen pounds

507
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: after a hunting the season, Yeah for sure.

508
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, this one, I don't I'm curious to hear

509
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: your answer on this one. Dold you rather fight one

510
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: elk size the squirrel or ten squirrel sized elk.

511
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: I think I'm going ten squirrel sized elk for that one.

512
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, start stifling on them versus Yeah, squirrels. Squirrels are

513
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: mean anyways. And now if it's that big and then

514
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: big old teeth like I'm and if they're as quick

515
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: as they still are, like you'd be in trouble.

516
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're always like disease ridden. You get one

517
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: scratch on yourself and you're you know, you're gonna just

518
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: start deteriorating out in the woods or something.

519
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: So all right, excellent. If you were in charge of

520
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: renaming one big game animal that's inappropriately named in your opinion,

521
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: what would you call it?

522
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: You might have you might have stumped me here, might

523
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 3: have got you game animal inappropriately named.

524
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: See, I'll give you I'm gonna answer, and then I'll

525
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: give you guys some time. So I always, I always

526
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: pitch a little you know, crap towards white tail deer, right,

527
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: and so like they're always down on the low land,

528
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: and so we I just always like they should be

529
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: called like the swamp rat, Like they just they're down there,

530
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: they're overtaking mill deer country. They're they're you know, they

531
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: they can live wherever. And I'm like, I just feel

532
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: like whitetails should have been renamed like something to do

533
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: with a rat.

534
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Let's see when you guys

535
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: can pass it.

536
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: We don't have to get held up unless you can

537
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: think of something.

538
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: You know, you're kind of sending me down that same path.

539
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm pretty avid. Blacktail deer hunter, you know, and you

540
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: hear blacktails called a timber ghost for a reason, especially

541
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: a mature black tail buck and a few of the

542
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: mature blacktail bucks that I've killed and just have those

543
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: jet dark chocolate antlers, and you can tell they they

544
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: don't see the sunlight often, which you know, definitely puts

545
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: right in line with that that timber ghost name for sure.

546
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we we always said like if deer were

547
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, if vampires were deer, they'd be the blacktail

548
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: because the same thing. They just they're scared of the light.

549
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: They just will not you know, back the day when

550
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: I was younger, we would always run around and we

551
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: would spotlight a lot, you know, off season, just just

552
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: to see what was around. And you're like, oh, there's

553
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: big bucks all over. You come out for an entire season,

554
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: you can't find anything, and it's just like these things, Yeah,

555
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: they just they hate daylight. And yeah, I've always you know,

556
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: everybody gets into the white tail hunting and like, oh

557
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: these deer, these big bucks never showed, but they'll be

558
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: on camera. I'm like, well, guess what, there's a deer

559
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: that does it even better than that, Like come out

560
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: to the coast and come out blacktails. Yeah.

561
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, they'll give you a run for your money

562
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: for sure.

563
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I swear I wasn't running cameras on the Washington coast,

564
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't know about any any bucks that were

565
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: bigger than a four.

566
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Yeah. They get to what three and a half,

567
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: four and a half, and they just like something snaps

568
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: in their mind and they know how to survive, they

569
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: know how to do They just they live without daylighting

570
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: for the most part.

571
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: Yep.

572
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: All right, So here's my last question, and don't throw

573
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: anything at me because it might not be like a

574
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: straightforward answer. But let's say aliens are somebody that had

575
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: no idea what we do here on Earth, and you

576
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: had to try to explain hunting to them, like how

577
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: do you draw that picture?

578
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing that comes to mind is that

579
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: explaining it to an alien can't be much different than

580
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: explaining it to an anti So there you go. I

581
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: would have to say, it's just one of the most

582
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: challenging and fulfilling ways to harvest your own meat and food.

583
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: And that's you know, the biggest thing for me is

584
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: providing for my family, and we're gone so much in

585
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: the fall with what we do and then your family

586
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: being able to live out off that for the rest

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: of the year. But yeah, I feel like I've had

588
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: that conversation with a few antis over the years or aliens.

589
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, so that's uh, yeah, I think there would

590
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: be some similarities there.

591
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I went to I'm gonna

592
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: have to like draw a picture, like I don't know,

593
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to communicate with them. I

594
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: took it so literally.

595
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: You're trying to go to like hieroglyphics and like.

596
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, rong, Like I'm gonna have to go verbal cues

597
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: like pull a bow back, like the act of it,

598
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: like show eating. Yeah, but no, I think on Bryant's

599
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: point would just be to add to it, would just

600
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: be explaining to them the understanding of where your food

601
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: comes from. Yep, Like that is the most important thing.

602
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so whether it's aliens or just you know,

603
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: being able to justify what we do, it's like, yeah,

604
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: there's no lineage, you know, even these I'm gonna go

605
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: on a little rant here, even these antis or vegans

606
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: or people that disagree with hunting, like you wouldn't be here,

607
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: like your lineage has meat in it somewhere, there's no

608
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: way you got here, and so like, yeah, fast forward

609
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: to today where there's options, but back in the day,

610
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: there weren't options. And so like we continue to carry

611
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: on their traditions the ways. Call me, you know, polish,

612
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: my tinfoil hat up, call me crazy, But it's like

613
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I like the idea that I eat a lot of

614
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: beef too, So I'm being a little hypocritical, but I

615
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: do like the idea that the majority of the red

616
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: meat I eat, like it doesn't have any antibiotics. It

617
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have if it gets sick, it dies, if it lives,

618
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: and I get to kill it, then I get to

619
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: eat it. Like it's just and and you know, being

620
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: raised on it, I think it's more healthy. And I

621
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: would be lying to say that I the hunting is

622
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: something that like one keeps me in shapey around, keeps

623
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: me like sharpened as a as a person. It you know,

624
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: being competitive and and school sports, like it allows me

625
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: to continue to be competitive, whether it's against myself or

626
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: with the you know, the animals we take. And so

627
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: like it's and and I'm involved like my like Bryant said,

628
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm involved in where my food comes from, Like the

629
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: blood's not anybody's else's hand, Like I understand what it

630
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: took to get that on the plate. Hopefully I can

631
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: pass that on to my kids. And so yeah, I

632
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: think you know, Ronella said it before, like not hunting

633
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: is like the weirdest thing he's ever seen, Like it's

634
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: the opposite, Like why we looked at as the is

635
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: the wrong ones. I'm like it, you go back two generations,

636
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: maybe three generations, Like it would be unheard of for

637
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: somebody to question while you're out there hunting. Where now

638
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: you fast forward sixty seventy eighty years and all of

639
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're you know, we're we're you know, crazy,

640
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: sadistic murderers, blood thirsty, whatever you want to call it. Like, no,

641
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: this is this is normal, normal for every for ninety

642
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: nine point five percent of like time on the earth.

643
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: This is how people lived and survived.

644
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: It's a way of life. I mean, the whole year

645
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: is how how you go about your life. It revolves

646
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: around that. If you're fishing or hunting, or being outdoors,

647
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: or your families going on these trips, you're introducing your

648
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: kids to it. It's just a way of life, and

649
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: it gives you something you're passionate about, it gives you

650
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: a why, It just all the above. Yeah, And so

651
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: I think it's just that if you again, it's the

652
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: personal take and a little bit of a ramp myself

653
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: with just if you share camp or share a room,

654
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: or have conversations with like minded people hunters, anglers, you'll

655
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: quickly realize we all. I mean they're kind, they're generous,

656
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: they're wealth and knowledge. They'll give you their shirt off

657
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: their back. And so when you are in share a

658
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: passion like that, you know you're in the right crowd.

659
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. And then the I mean

660
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: all the way to you walk out to your freezer

661
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: and you got meat for the whole year, if it's

662
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: seafood or if it's red and meat, I mean not

663
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: having to go to the store for those things. It's

664
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: it's priceless.

665
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's a I mean there's people that train,

666
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, all year long for like an iron man

667
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: or a triathlon, and and to me, elk hunting is

668
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: the ultimate iron man, right. And then on top of that,

669
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: you're accomplishing, you know, this extremely physical feat and you're

670
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: coming home with hundreds of pounds of meat to share

671
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: with with family members, and there's just not there's nothing

672
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: else out there like it where it's it's so rewarding

673
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: physically mentally draining and then rewarding and then you're ending

674
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: up with that end result.

675
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I have a quick question. I'm gonna throw

676
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: another one just before we and it's more to do

677
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: with what you know, we talk about meat and that's

678
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: one thing that like has been very important, even you know,

679
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I remember growing up Grandpa like stacking the freezer like

680
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: horns didn't matter, antler size, this or that, like it

681
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: was it was what we did, Like we lived off

682
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: of red meat. Have you guys, because I'm starting to

683
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: struggle with a little bit, like you know, you walking

684
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned walking out to your freezer and so I

685
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: can pull sheet meat, but I'm like, don't really say

686
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: like we're filling the freezer with sheet meat because it's

687
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: very expensive, right or you know, we do get you

688
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: guys talked about hunting, no call over, and it's like

689
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: the travel to get there, the this or that becomes

690
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: like very expensive. How are you guys like justifying that

691
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: that whole idea now that you know it is becoming

692
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: more expensive, but at least you do get the meat.

693
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, you do get that, and so it's that's

694
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: one of those things I've been struggling with a little bit.

695
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Is you know some of these bucket lists hunts or

696
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: or some of these things where you know the cost

697
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: per pound is definitely going up now that I don't

698
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: hunt around home. But the reality is I still get

699
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: to feed the family. You know, wild game, you know,

700
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: for ninety percent of the meals.

701
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'll start with if I wasn't hunting,

702
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: I would be doing something else, So that could be

703
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I get out and my golf. I'd

704
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: give you golfing more. I mean, there's so many other

705
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: things that you'd be doing. Joke is, my wife loves

706
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: happy hour. I'm not a huge happy hour person, like

707
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: go get drinks. Like I'm doing something that's healthy, I'm

708
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 3: staying active. I most likely would be spending similar amount

709
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: of money if I was going and doing other things

710
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: throughout the year. And then also like yeah, you ultimately,

711
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: if you have a successful year, you got you got

712
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: an ELK or two, potentially three ELK. Now I'm able

713
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: to feed not only my family, but my extended family,

714
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: my friends, I can share meat with them, might introduce

715
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: them to elk meat or deer meat, even bear meat.

716
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: I'm sure we're I live right outside Portland. I used

717
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: to travel into Portland for a corporate job and to

718
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: bring some summer sausage into for the Christmas party, and

719
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: to tell them it was bear meat was a crack up.

720
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: And then they loved it and they've never eaten eaten

721
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: bear meat before. And to be able to introduce people

722
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: to things like that, I just all of those things

723
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: can line really is what does it for me and

724
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: justifies it on my end?

725
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.

726
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: And there's no other like time where actual meat from

727
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: the grocery store is as expensive as it's ever been, right,

728
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: and when you start actually calculating it per pound, and

729
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: then you start looking at a you know, a thousand

730
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: dollars out of state tag and you add in the fuel,

731
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: and you add in you know, the food, and then

732
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: it actually went on a successful hunt, your bottom line

733
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: is actually doing pretty well.

734
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

735
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: So you know, and and not every hunt are we successful.

736
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: But that's one unique thing and nice thing about our

737
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: group of four guys is we share meat with each

738
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: other from successful hunts if needed at the very end,

739
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: to make sure you know, we've all got some to

740
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: help out. But yeah, there's no when you go look

741
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: at the price of a good steak in the grocery store,

742
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: you find out real quick that a hunting tag is

743
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: not a bad deal.

744
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's still pencils out, you know,

745
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: as long as it isn't a sheep or something of

746
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: that nature. But you know, you know, deer and elk

747
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: still you know, maybe not deer, but it's still it's

748
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: still out. You know, there's other things besides the money.

749
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: You're still probably you know, right there with with store

750
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: bought and uh you know, but but you got the adventure.

751
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: And like I say, I I never shy away from

752
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: there is something like deep inside that that adventure is

753
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: worth something entertainment value, whether you know, whether I'm going

754
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: to a concert or this or that, like you said,

755
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: happy hour, like it's my way and what I want

756
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: to spend my money on as well.

757
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's why I limit myself on those

758
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: extreme adventure hunts because I know the more often I

759
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: do it, the more I'm gonna be digging into my savings.

760
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Account because it's uh yeah, it's like a drug, and

761
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: once you get a taste of it, you're just gonna

762
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: want more and more of those type type of hunts.

763
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: And I think you're right in the thick of it.

764
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, and and I gotta I gotta soften

765
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: soften the wife up with these like repeat discussions like

766
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: are you sure we don't want to like work an

767
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: extra five years and retire a little bit later so

768
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: I can go on another sheep hunt or do the

769
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: slam or no, it's probably not going to happen, but yeah, yeah,

770
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: So thank you guys for entertaining us on those quick questions.

771
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: So let's jump into why we brought you guys here,

772
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: the Elk Obsession project. Give us a little background on

773
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Tall Timber productions to begin with, and kind of how

774
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you guys got here.

775
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, two thousand and seventeen, early twenty eighteen. Brian and I,

776
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: like I mentioned earlier, we dove into the deep end

777
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: for elk hunting previously, so a couple of years before that,

778
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: and we were just talking about, Hey, let's pick up

779
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: a camera and document some of these adventures. We were

780
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: going into new places, learning things for the first time

781
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: experiencing things for the first time, and it'd be really

782
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: cool to look back at those adventures or even just

783
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: share them with your family. And from there just started

784
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: to grow. Both of us were college college athletes, and

785
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: when we enjoy something and we we commit, we're all

786
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: in and we want to learn everything about it. And

787
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: so we kind of we ultimately got that same bug

788
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: for for elk hunting. And so as the video piece

789
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: start growing more and more legs, our good friends Kyle

790
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: Gomez and Alex Zurbach, we talked about expanding the group

791
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: and now there's four of us for the last five

792
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: six years that have been a part of Tall Timber

793
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: production and growing that platform and that brand. And uh,

794
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: about two years ago, we we decided, Hey, what we're

795
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: really passionate about elk honey, let's look at doing an

796
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: elk specific project where we go on as many elk

797
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: hunts as as we can in the fall that our

798
00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: wives will allow, and uh document those and all the

799
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: trial and air. And I think one thing that that

800
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: we experienced was just growth out of out of that

801
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: project and it's been a joy.

802
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I know you guys have talked to you

803
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: know you you liked elk hunting. What made Are you

804
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: guys still filming other hunts aside from the elk hunts?

805
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Do you guys have like videos you released separate from

806
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: the Elk Obsession?

807
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we have. We're working on our second

808
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: season of Elk Obsession now, and then we just have

809
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: some tall timber hunts as well, and that that mule

810
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: deer hunts, blacktail hunts, some trips with other family members

811
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: and so yeah, we we definitely you know, Corey's caribou

812
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: hunt in Alaska, so we we have done some different

813
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: adventure type hunts into different areas. Yeah, it's just the

814
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: passion and the time spent is focused around Elk Obsession.

815
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: Gotcha?

816
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Would have been like the biggest challenges in bringing this

817
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: whole vision to life, you know, from the start to now.

818
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: I think ultimately would just be time. Right. The four

819
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: of us have full time, full time careers, We have

820
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: growing families, little kiddos. I think Blakely, my daughter's the

821
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: oldest out of all of them, and she's about to

822
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: turn eight, so you can imagine the households and so

823
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: being able to leave. We joked earlier about lampers and

824
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: thirty days in the field and it takes time, right

825
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: to make this happen, and you're away from home and

826
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: you're traveling, and so just the logistics of it all

827
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: and making sure that on certain hunts you have a

828
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: designated cameraman. On on say, rifle hunts, maybe you don't

829
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: need a designated cameraman, maybe both people have tags. Just

830
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: all of those things to make sure that you're capturing

831
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 3: content at a high quality.

832
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've definitely had challenges with archery L cunting specifically,

833
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: you know, trying in the beginning, Corey and I would

834
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: try to to video archer L cunts with just the

835
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: two of us, and a lot of times we would

836
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: kill a bull and well you couldn't see the bull

837
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: in the frame, you know, shooter caller set up. So

838
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: we had some challenges there. But fortunately now with the

839
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: four of us, we've all been very unselfish and that's

840
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: helped our group work well together. Our group have success,

841
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: you know, and there's times where we've taken an opportunity

842
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: maybe on a smaller bull, because it frees up some

843
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: time for the next guy, and that's that's been a

844
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: huge step in keeping our group cohesive. Is we have

845
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: to be unselfish for each other, and everyone has to

846
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: get some opportunities in you know, trying to keep keep

847
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: our personal endeavors aside in the success of the group. Yeah,

848
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: the main focus.

849
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that chemistry between the team members is always important.

850
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: You know, It's like you could be the best of friends,

851
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: but you get out there and somebody like doesn't necessarily

852
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: like the decision that was made or it's cutting into

853
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: my time, and and we've wrestled with that as well.

854
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: But for the most part, you know, everybody that we

855
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, we hunt with is on the same page,

856
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: like and we just talk about it, like what are

857
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: you doing in this situation? Or if you don't then

858
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: I will or I'm gonna get it time, and so

859
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: we just make sure that we we we lay all

860
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: that out ahead of time. One of the major challenges

861
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that I'm we're dealing with, I'm sure you guys are

862
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna start dealing with. You guys have been fairly successful

863
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: in the draws lately, but getting a tag in the

864
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: near future to to put a project like you you

865
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: guys are doing, is going to become challenging. Or you're

866
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: going to see a bunch of like coastal Washington and

867
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Oregon stuff on a yearly basis, Like you know, Dirk

868
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: is lucky that he lives in Idaho, you know, but

869
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: living in Washington, I'm like, well, I guess if I

870
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: have too, I could hunt Roosevelts again as my you know,

871
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: my standard, but like nothing anymore as a guarantee.

872
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a challenge. I think. The nice thing

873
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: is we do a good job, the four of us

874
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: communicating early in the year through the tag draw process

875
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: and planning of like, hey, you know, we've got so

876
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: many points here. We've got so many points here, you

877
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: guys can cool together. We've got this plan. So we

878
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: try to have a b C D down the line

879
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: of plans that can come together and keep that three

880
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: to five year approach of being able to kind of

881
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: bounce from each area. And that's one thing you know,

882
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: we haven't drawn up most recently, we've drawn a couple

883
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: of pretty good tags, but up until that, it's we're

884
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: trying to really make do with these tags that you

885
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: can get either OTC or every two to four years,

886
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: and that keeps a rotation going. And as you know,

887
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: that is that is changing. So we're navigating it just

888
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: like everyone else. But yeah, so far we can we

889
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: can cycle around and still get some stuff done and

890
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: have some backup plans. But Corey's probably got a deep

891
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: backup of making a move to Montana.

892
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: It's it's on. It's definitely on the list of things

893
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: to do is get out of the state to guarantee

894
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: that hunt. But yeah, like you mentioned that, if you've

895
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: got a decent rotation between Montana Wyoming and then like

896
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: my plan is between those two, I can rotate those

897
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: if I have to throw Washington, and I can you know,

898
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: maybe pick up an Idaho tag here or there, and

899
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: then if I'm rotating through on Colorado, Nevada, you know,

900
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Colorado is a little easier, but then like Nevada, Utah, Arizona,

901
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: New Mexico. You just kind of swing for the fences

902
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: every year, like eventually based on percentages, and as long

903
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: as you're not a plan for the absolute hardest tags,

904
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: like you will probably end up with an ELK tag,

905
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: you know, every year. And when you do get a

906
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: group of four, you can be a little more strategic

907
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: and you know, groups and rounding up and here and there,

908
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: like there's a way to probably have an Okay, ELK

909
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: take outside of our state every year?

910
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: Still, yeah, very much so, and we count we shouldn't be,

911
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: but we count on someone out of the four drawing

912
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: something they quote unquote shouldn't on a yearly basis, and

913
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: we've been pretty lucky in that regard. But like Bryant

914
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: mentioned it, you're sacrificing those those coveted tags, like that

915
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: deep investment in ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years to

916
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: draw a coveted tag, and really we're looking at that

917
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: short term two to five years we want to tag

918
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: in some of these states where people are holding out

919
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: for those a higher end tags and trophy qualities. So

920
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: just getting out and essentially doing as much outcunting as

921
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: you can, gotcha.

922
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: So with the Elk obsession, like, how did you guys

923
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: like go into that, Like whether you got a vision

924
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: or a mission statement for that, Like how did you

925
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: want that project to maybe differentiate itself from other hunting

926
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: films or series that are out there?

927
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think ultimately we we were looking at hey,

928
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: we're we're filming our hunts, but it's it's what what's

929
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: our identity? What what do we like to do? What's

930
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: our passion, and really what it came down to was

931
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: we we our passion is elkhunting, And yeah, you do

932
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: have elk projects that are out there that are elk specific,

933
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: but we, by no means are experts. We're growing, we're

934
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: we're learning as we go, and that's what we wanted

935
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: to showcase was, Hey, we're we love elk hunting, We're

936
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: passionate about it. We're newer in the grand scheme of

937
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: things to elk hunting, like watch along and learn from

938
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: some of our mistakes and enjoy joy some of us,

939
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: laugh at some of our mistakes if you'd like, and

940
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: and then some of our successes as well as we

941
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: go along and we make those decisions about hey, do

942
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: we take this bowl, do we hold out to the end,

943
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: all of those things. So I think for us, it

944
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: was just showcasing the rawness of it, as Hey, someone

945
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: that's in the first decade of Hugh of elk hunting

946
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: and diving into the deep end, here's what to expect

947
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: as as we're going through that journey as well.

948
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, I kind of mentioned it earlier,

949
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: but the uniqueness of our four person group and really

950
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: trying to fill an ELK tag for every all four

951
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: of us, and that's you know, taking that unselfish approach,

952
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: and we're you'll probably see us lean into that a

953
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: little bit more. But it's just I might have one

954
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: of the guys that helps me pack out a bull

955
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: I killed during archery season. So say we go to

956
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: another state and it's rifle season there first up, you know,

957
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: and I think capturing that and just showing the you know,

958
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: cohesiveness of hunting in a group. And there's other groups

959
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: out there that you know, document these these sorts of projects.

960
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: But I think you'll see us lean into that a

961
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: little bit more and just kind of show that, you know,

962
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: because that's something that happens behind the scenes that makes

963
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: it all work.

964
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Yep, that's awesome. So right now, you know this is

965
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: gonna air on the thirteenth. You guys have released two episodes,

966
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: and I believe on the sixteenth you said New Mexico

967
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: Elk will be releasing, and then on the twenty third,

968
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: the Idaho one where we kind of did the collab

969
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: with Phelps and Tall Timber will release on the twenty third.

970
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: What was the most memorable moment in your guys' opinion

971
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: from and you may let the cat out of the

972
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: bag or spill the beans a little bit here. But like,

973
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: what was the most memorable moment for you guys putting

974
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: ELK Obsession together this year?

975
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think it would have to be the Wyoming episode,

976
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: which is already out. Uh So first episode we tried

977
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: to come out with a bang this year, and and

978
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: that was my tag in Wyoming. Corey came along with me,

979
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: and then actually we invited I invited a family friend

980
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: to run camera and help us out as well. But yeah,

981
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: first episode Wyoming under twenty yard six point bowl, you know,

982
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: on film on an our triolch the iy public land Hunt,

983
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: and that's you know, as you know, that's such a

984
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: hard thing to capture. Yeah, and it was a special moment,

985
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: a super tough pack out out of a beautiful remote area.

986
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: So it just kind of had everything together. And that's

987
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: that's one of those instances I was mentioning too, is uh.

988
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: That happened on day two and a half, basically our

989
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: third day there. I would have loved to held out forever,

990
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: but that freed up Corey to get to Montana earlier,

991
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: me to get back to the Oregon coast and so

992
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: you know that that was a That was a good

993
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: one for sure.

994
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've I climbed out of there without an elk

995
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: on my back and didn't appreciate the climb out of

996
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: that canyon. So I can only imagine with an elk

997
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: on three guys's back, it wasn't that much fun.

998
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was that was a special one for us.

999
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Yep, how about you, Corey.

1000
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that while Brian was talking, and

1001
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily one moment, it's just

1002
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 3: looking back at the entire project. So we even spent

1003
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: time on the Oregon coast. Some of that stuff we

1004
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 3: didn't document it document So going from the Oregon Coast

1005
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: and then I was at we had five stops. I

1006
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: was at four of them, to be in five different

1007
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: states from September to November hunting elk and just going

1008
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 3: from the coast and the jungle to Wyoming and having

1009
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: that experience with Brian, and then going to Montana and

1010
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: there's no vegetation to be seen. It's like the desert

1011
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: to me. And then jumping to Idaho and the high

1012
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: country and chasing critters with you, and then going to Arizona.

1013
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: It was just a whirlwind looking back at it, and

1014
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: all the different strategies and different ways of approaching getting

1015
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: close on critters, all that combined was pretty cool. Most

1016
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: people don't even experience that. And a ten day span,

1017
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 3: let alone a three month span or ten year span,

1018
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: let alone three months.

1019
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: So the entire culmination of the project, which is you

1020
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: know where I'm at, It's tough to pick out one

1021
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: when you know the entire season is kind of what

1022
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: what I remember? So where does elk Obsession go from here?

1023
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Are you guys playing it like year by year? You

1024
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: guys just plan on keeping running an elk obsession until

1025
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: something else changes, or like where's it? Where's what's the

1026
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: future of elk Obsession?

1027
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we the first season was last year

1028
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: and the feedback we got from everybody was was amazing,

1029
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: and hence why we rolled it back for for season

1030
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 3: two here in twenty twenty five. And some people joke,

1031
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: do you ever get burnt out? Go into all these

1032
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm nowhere, they're burnt out on Elk cutting. So I enjoyed.

1033
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: I love it, and so I think we we ultimately

1034
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: collectively will need to have those tags like you mentioned

1035
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: that are going to be hard to come by year

1036
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 3: to year. But our goal right now, rough draft, would

1037
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: be to do it again here in the fall of

1038
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

1039
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and we are playing it year by

1040
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: year in the fact of trying to keep things unique

1041
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: and exciting, keep keep ourselves engaged because I think you know,

1042
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: as you know, you do the same thing for a

1043
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: couple of years, it gets a little stale. But I think, yeah,

1044
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, leaning in more to the story of

1045
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: our group of four and working working hard for each other.

1046
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: You know, I think it is something you'll you'll see

1047
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: in the future here, gotcha.

1048
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: So work in the audience, support and follow Tall Timber.

1049
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Where can they go watch the yelk obsession videos the series.

1050
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: So we Instagram Tall Timber Productions. We are YouTube channel

1051
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: same thing, Tall Timber Productions. We just released episode three

1052
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: last night, so that's the second episode out of Montana,

1053
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: and then as you mentioned, New Mexico will come this

1054
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: Sunday and then also on Facebook for Tall Timber Production

1055
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 3: Productions as well.

1056
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Any closing thoughts, what's one piece of advice you

1057
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: would leave with with new Elk Hunters or Elk Hunters

1058
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: that maybe aren't a successful every year.

1059
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: I would just go back to enjoy, enjoy the struggle.

1060
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: It's going to be a struggle, and enjoy the journey.

1061
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: And as long as you go in with a growth mindset,

1062
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 3: it's it's everything that's cracked up to be yep.

1063
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: And I would say find a mentor for sure, because

1064
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: one thing about this community that we have together is

1065
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: people are willing to help. And I think sometimes, you know,

1066
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: newer hunters are afraid to ask questions. I know when

1067
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: I was just getting into it, you you kind of

1068
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: put some people up on a pedestal. You're afraid to

1069
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: ask for advice, and all of us are willing to help.

1070
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: So find a mentor someone that can help you. And

1071
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: I think you'd be surprised how how much that can

1072
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: cut down the learning curve.

1073
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It's you know, even if you've got to

1074
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: go be a packer, aren't for somebody like offered whatever.

1075
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: Like it's if you can cut that learning curve down,

1076
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: it's huge. And then just time in the field is

1077
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: always important and you can read whatever you want. But

1078
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: like that's why the mentor thing like reading on the internet,

1079
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, watching YouTube video doesn't like put you in

1080
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: the position to make decisions, and why are these decisions

1081
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: being made? So it's important to get out there. And

1082
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: the other thing I tell people is like it's maybe

1083
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: a tougher pill to swallow is you watch these videos.

1084
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: You guys get to see the best thirty minutes of

1085
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: my entire ELK Hunt right when we edit. We all

1086
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: edit because people are going to tune out if you

1087
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: got to see the three days of us getting our

1088
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: butts kicked, and so like it's it's not reality what

1089
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: you watch any of us do on YouTube. You're getting

1090
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: to see the best of that entire hunt in a

1091
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: thirty minute package. You fail, You're going to fail. I fail.

1092
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: You guys fail. Everybody fails, even the best you know,

1093
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Lampers fails. He talks about like you know, Brian Barney,

1094
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: all of these guys, whether you make mistakes or not,

1095
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: they're olk they're not they're not reading the same script

1096
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: you are. And so I've always just like to keep

1097
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: people's confidence. You know, I've seen people after a year

1098
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: or two like I'm just okay, I'm never gonna it's

1099
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: never gonna work. And I'm like, well, most of these

1100
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: guys producing videos on YouTube are ten plus years experience.

1101
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: They've got a system. They've got it figured out, like

1102
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: don't don't measure your expectation against like what what you

1103
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: know some of these video projects do. It's not not

1104
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: maybe the norm, it's a little bit of the exception.

1105
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: And so I just try to like stay engaged and then,

1106
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: like you guys have mentioned multiple times, I'm gonna kind

1107
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: of roll into that, like fall in love with the

1108
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: journey of becoming that person that kills an elk every

1109
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: other year, every third year, or you know, the journey

1110
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: to your first elk, whatever it is. And don't you

1111
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: know put that undue pressure on you, like you have

1112
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: to be successful. It's gonna take time for sure.

1113
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, finding that mentor you learn that

1114
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: this is a year round it's a year round a

1115
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: journey and that that's uh. People talk about confidence being

1116
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: so important, and it is. Once you get that confidence

1117
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: in those scenarios when you especially when you have animals

1118
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: in close, you start to you know, punch tags more often.

1119
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: But it's the reps in the off season with the

1120
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: bow and it's the training to get physically fit, and

1121
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: it's the researching tags and areas and practicing your calling.

1122
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: And once you're putting in all that effort throughout the year,

1123
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: that gives you the confidence in the fall. You know,

1124
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: it's it's it takes a long time to develop confidence.

1125
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: If you're only expecting your two three weeks of vacation

1126
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: and time in the fall. Actually out hunting is the

1127
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: time you're going to gain that. You have to be

1128
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: putting that in, you know, in the other nine months

1129
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: out of the year.

1130
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it takes a little bit of like that

1131
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: old school thought. You know, we live in a world

1132
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: where instant gratification is such a real thing, like everything

1133
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: needs to be quick, it needs to be instant. And

1134
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is more of an old school thing,

1135
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: like you better, you better be in for the long

1136
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: haul because it's not going to be that. It's going

1137
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: to take a while. It's going to take year round.

1138
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: You know, people think we're crazy, Like you guys think

1139
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: about this year round to spend one week out in

1140
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: the Elk Woods. It's like, yeah, it's that important to us,

1141
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: and it's what it's what you do to ensure that

1142
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: you have success or a chance at success. And even then,

1143
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: like you could do all that and still maybe not

1144
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: you get your chance in a week, you know, And

1145
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: so it's like people just need to realize it. It's

1146
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: not it's not going to happen in an instant. It's

1147
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: going to take it.

1148
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the neat thing is there's these small wins

1149
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: along the way, right that we know of. Right, you

1150
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: put in for tags and you draw a tag, so

1151
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: you get that instant a little bit of that gratification,

1152
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: and you're working on your calling and you've been trying

1153
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: to get this you know, clean high note in your locator,

1154
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it's happening, right, so that

1155
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: you get these little wins throughout the year shooting the

1156
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: bow and now you're hitting the kill zone at fifty

1157
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: yards when you only could at thirty before. So there's

1158
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: these little wins if you look for them, that keep

1159
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: you going and get you ready.

1160
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I really appreciate having you guys on here.

1161
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: Look forward to the rest of the elk Obsession project,

1162
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, good luck and all your your tag draws

1163
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: and hopefully you guys can fill up the all your

1164
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: all your time slots. Everybody gets a tag, and look

1165
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what elk Obsession three turns out to.

1166
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: Be appreciate you, Jason.

1167
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks a lot.

1168
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: YEP, Take care, guys,