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Speaker 3: All let's do it live on a Draft day. Thursday

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Speaker 3: edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet,

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Speaker 3: coming soon Ohio. I am merely bow he is a

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Speaker 4: It's finally here. And it's so weird because this does

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Speaker 4: not carry anyway any of the normal draft excitement that

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Speaker 4: you know, a superstar to your team, somebody that will

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Speaker 4: be a pillar of your team, a first round pick

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Speaker 4: that you hope, you know, in case the Browns obviously

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Speaker 4: that didn't work out so well for many many years.

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Speaker 4: But somebody that would hope would be a pillar of

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Speaker 4: get better, you know, in one day. And that's not

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Speaker 4: gonna happen for us. That's we're we're not picking tonight.

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Speaker 4: And I think you guys can You've heard Andrew Berry

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Speaker 4: say it many many times. You don't have to watch

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Speaker 4: tonight for hoping the Browns are going to trade back

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Speaker 4: in the first round. They're not. So it's interesting, it's weird.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like it isn't happening, but then it is happening.

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Speaker 4: Because Gibe said it reminded me that I'll be here

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Speaker 4: from seven to midnight tonight. They seven midnight tomorrow night,

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Speaker 4: which will be a little bit more fun, and then

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Speaker 4: bonus hour on day three, twelve to four.

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Speaker 3: There was a I was talking about this on Monday

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Speaker 3: when when you were when you're off and both of

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Speaker 3: you guys has experienced through this because you've you know,

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Speaker 3: you've been in this organizational long time. Give you've been

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Speaker 3: in this market for a very very long time. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if the people who cover the team or

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Speaker 3: because for the longest time, this was the super Bowl Yes,

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Speaker 3: a point with the roster and now it's a lot

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Speaker 3: more difficult now than it was then in terms of

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Speaker 3: though our team significantly better that the super Bowl is

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl. We remember saying that like this is

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Speaker 3: this was the price, and now this is where you are.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if I still have people like

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Speaker 3: there's you know, yeah, it's a long way. It's a

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Speaker 3: long way, yes, And so it's I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I think every other team in the league will have

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Speaker 4: drafted two players at a minimum by the time we've drafted.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's four, aren't there that have two picks in

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Speaker 4: By the way, when we were talking, the reason that

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Speaker 4: circle up. Yeah, there, maybe maybe New Orleans has too.

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Speaker 3: They Yeah, they probably do, right, Why wouldn't they unless

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Speaker 4: That's it. They sid that whole thing up. They sure did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I don't think anyone that the town

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Speaker 3: Of course, remember when when we got Backham, we fear

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Speaker 4: That's why you did that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the super Bowl is the super Bowl, but we've

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Speaker 4: And you know it, you've been picking twelfth overall, you

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Speaker 4: And that's fine, and it is a It is weird though,

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Speaker 4: And I think if there was one team that the

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Speaker 5: Fuddy South pal this morning reporting that Howie Roseman has

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Speaker 3: To into those Yeah, well, because this is the this

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why to me, if you could trade it,

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Speaker 3: What was you guys have been here a long time,

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Speaker 3: longer than I. This will be the third time that

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Speaker 3: since I've been here that we haven't had a first

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Speaker 4: We used to have like four, right, and it also

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Speaker 3: No, it didn't and a lot of times, I mean

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Speaker 3: and all of this stuff. What is your what was

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Speaker 3: your most fun draft experience as part of as part

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Speaker 3: of the organization, The most fun day of the Draft.

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Speaker 3: Forget what happened afterwards.

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Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen Easy John Football All done backstory Lunacy. I

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Speaker 4: was in New York. I was at the What's a

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Speaker 4: It was my first pre draft TV that I had

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Speaker 4: done with the brown because I'd done Browns Daly in

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Speaker 4: twenty thirteen. But then I became full on and going

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Speaker 4: we did. But when we traded back in at twenty two,

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Speaker 4: the electricity in Radio City Music Hall was like a buzz.

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Speaker 4: was like that. Then we picked John Manziel. People will

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Speaker 3: It's probably the worst, as bad as any ever.

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Speaker 4: I mean, neither of them finished their rookie country.

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Speaker 3: Which is the there was even precedent for that two

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Speaker 4: Neither one do. No. Yeah, but that was it.

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Speaker 5: That was a crazy night.

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Speaker 4: Where were you were you here?

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Speaker 5: I was in the back hallway at ESPN Cleveland, Okay, because.

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Speaker 4: Your boy cried that night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were literally in the back hallway.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, So the next day I had to bring

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Speaker 5: I hear it on occasion when they sell ticket packages. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, those two.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was there was even like, didn't

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Speaker 4: And look at in this pick the outside of the room,

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Speaker 4: this is two two. Oh yeah, this is that.

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Speaker 5: This is this week two, so that that's up there.

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Speaker 5: Number one for me might have been when I was

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Speaker 5: it's when the drafts was a Saturday Sunday event.

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Speaker 4: I was doing radio for you guys. I did that

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Speaker 3: But what you was never going to show up on

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Speaker 3: a genius Kyle Shanahan was at that point, I mean not.

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Speaker 4: Fully, not fully. He was the youngest offensive coordinatying in

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Speaker 4: league history with Houston and did a great job with

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Speaker 4: Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 3: But that was under Kubiak, and at that time it

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Speaker 3: was mostly Kubiak was given the credit for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no Ukubax system. Like there wasn't a full appreciation

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 3: Really wasn't until he got to Atlanta and you were like, oh,

444
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Speaker 3: like look what he did here, like all the way

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Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, Ryan's and.

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Speaker 4: MVP all that stuff in San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Well since and he never had what I'm saying, like

448
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Speaker 3: in fourteen, you didn't know that you were that he

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Speaker 3: was who he was or what he has become.

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Speaker 4: So you also had the right with his dad you

451
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Speaker 4: had in Washington with RG three and things like I

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Speaker 4: think that that's fair.

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Speaker 3: That felt like that that was his dad's got credit

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 4: Like it was.

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Speaker 3: Almost like he hadn't proven that he could stand on

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Speaker 3: his own two feet because his dad and Kubiak, that's

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Speaker 3: the same tree.

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Speaker 4: That's just where to take care of him.

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Speaker 5: We played staff had mc mcveigh's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was on that staff McVeigh.

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Speaker 5: Like there were there were there were some play there

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Speaker 5: was some oh yeah for sure, so that he would

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Speaker 5: he would have gotten lost in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know if he was like a trust fund

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Speaker 3: baby or if he was legit at that point.

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Speaker 4: We know now, but we didn't know that he is

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Speaker 4: the OC in Houston from eight to nine, he was

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Speaker 4: the OC with the Redskins, then then the Redskins ten

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Speaker 4: to thirteen, so he had been had the title anyway

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Speaker 4: as an OC for six years. Goes here, then goes

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Speaker 4: to the foul like his uncle. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 4: so now.

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Speaker 3: Then he stands on his own Like what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: is is.

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Speaker 4: People here knew I would say, right, But I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think the fans knew, and I don't think the NFL

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Speaker 3: at large knew what he was capable of Intel Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: That's when it's like, oh, this is what we have

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Speaker 3: our hands on here, and then the rest is history.

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Speaker 3: But up until that point, it's like, Okay, so his

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Speaker 3: dad hired him, and is what's essentially is his uncle

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Speaker 3: hired him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's it's I

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 4: I love the draft. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Before I got into this, this was a when I

487
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Speaker 3: was a kid. This is a big pepperoni and mushroom

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Speaker 3: pizza day. You get that sucker. You set it out there.

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Speaker 3: You I take notes, rigorous notes.

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Speaker 4: Who's going? But this loved it.

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Speaker 5: Much, sitting all day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a Kuiper guy for just love Kuiper,

494
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Speaker 3: love everything around it, love the hope that springs eternal

495
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Speaker 3: from it. You can talk yourself into anything, and it's

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Speaker 3: fun for sure. We have a multiple yeah, man, Like

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Speaker 3: the inexact science of it is stunning, though.

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Speaker 4: I mean at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the biggest changes in this league

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Speaker 3: is like you don't have a whole lot of patience

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Speaker 3: for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: No, you know you used to.

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Speaker 3: Now it's one in two three years and we're on

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Speaker 3: down the road and we'll try it again next year.

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Speaker 3: So no picks for us tonight. As we mentioned, we

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Speaker 3: will pick on Friday as scheduled at seventy four and

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Speaker 3: ninety eight or maybe not. So that's that's kind of

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Speaker 3: where you stand at this point. As we as we

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Speaker 3: head into Friday night, there's a lot swirling around, including

510
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Speaker 3: some consensus building about what could happen at the top

511
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Speaker 3: and could include something going on potentially with the former

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Speaker 3: Ohigh State Buckeye quarterback CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: So we'll keep you updated as this is one of

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Speaker 3: the big big days on the NFL calendar and while

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Speaker 3: we are not participating, still a lot of fun off

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Speaker 3: and running. Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by Bally Bet

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch all the action of around one

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Speaker 3: of the NFL Draft tonight on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland

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Speaker 3: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network coverage starts

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Speaker 3: at eight with Ken Gerard and Z you're joining closer

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Speaker 3: to eight thirty?

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Speaker 4: Is this is what I see in notations? Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: I got TV from seven to eight and then I.

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Speaker 3: Got to come from no pick though, why you do

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Speaker 3: a TV.

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Speaker 4: Downtown and then I'll come here reprieving the draft. Do

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Speaker 4: we still have picks to make? We still have improvements

532
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Speaker 4: to this team, good.

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Speaker 3: Sales, pitch, first round analysis, reaction, you can get it

534
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Speaker 3: all tonight. There is a there's something happened this morning

535
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Speaker 3: just from the draft, and at the top of it,

536
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Speaker 3: it feels like it all starts with Houston at two

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Speaker 3: and then certainly at Arizona at three, but Houston will

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Speaker 3: be the first one making a decision. I saw several

539
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Speaker 3: final mocks this morning that had Tennessee going up to

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Speaker 3: three to draft.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud, Kuiper had it, Shay had it, others. We talked

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Speaker 4: about that before I came in. Yeah, it feels like

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Speaker 4: like that's what's coming. So I think, and I'll give

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Speaker 4: Ta cleave Ta some credit for this, but he said it,

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Speaker 4: and I said, that makes a lot of sense. There's

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Speaker 4: been never been less information about who's going where. I

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Speaker 4: feel like then this year that's come out in the

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Speaker 4: week before any of it.

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Speaker 3: The only information we have is based on betting odds. Honestly,

551
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Speaker 3: like then the last month from Stroud to Young. But

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Speaker 3: Stroud was the pick a month ago and now it's Young.

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Speaker 4: My thought is with all the gambling stuff and how

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Speaker 4: seriously the league takes the gambling they I think because

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Speaker 4: this is heavily gambled on. Now. Yeah, they're trying to

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Speaker 4: keep it under wraps. Well they are.

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Speaker 3: They've succeeded because there's no there's nothing out there, even

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Speaker 3: even on the Young camp stuff, and it it moved

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Speaker 3: this week with the Levis stuff, with the Reddit post,

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Speaker 3: it moved. And I don't know, it feels to me

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Speaker 3: like that if you kind of just comprehensively take a

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Speaker 3: look at all of the mocks that are out there,

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Speaker 3: it seems like Houston's going to go defense number two.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what the general said. Well, that's what

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Speaker 4: Zerlin said, and he's plugged in down there. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: If the Houston Texans stay at two and draft a

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Speaker 3: defensive player, they better be damn sure that these other

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks aren't it. Yeah, because that is organizational malfeasance going

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Speaker 3: back to the end of last season, like if they

571
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Speaker 3: had if the apple of their eye was Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: and only Bryce Young, if that's really what it was,

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Speaker 3: and that the difference was enormous between him and everybody else,

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Speaker 3: and you won that game.

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Speaker 4: So do you have you mean that's buffoonery. We watched

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Speaker 4: the play that won them the game. Have you seen

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Speaker 4: the play showed fourth and twenty Okay, from about the

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Speaker 4: thirty okay, fourth and twenty okay, it's on Renner's timeline.

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Speaker 4: Mills just kind of chucks one up down the middle

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Speaker 4: of the field. It looks to me like there's a

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Speaker 4: cult who absolutely should have intercepted the ball and he

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Speaker 4: just kind of doesn't, and it goes right to Jordan

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Speaker 4: Akins for the touchdown. All right, But there's a guy

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Speaker 4: on the Colts who is in front of where this guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, there are guys.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that guy missed on? I mean he

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Speaker 4: had to.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me pull I need to pull this

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Speaker 3: up for a full screen, all right. So it's Davis Mills, yep.

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Speaker 3: And he drifts and then he drifts, drifts and just

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Speaker 3: throws it off his back foot. As he's being hit

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Speaker 3: into the middle.

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Speaker 4: But there's a that's right there who misses it. Well,

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Speaker 4: not only that, there's like eight Colt guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody watches him. It's like who was tanking that game?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but they both The Colts don't want

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Speaker 3: them getting the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They want either.

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Speaker 3: Look at this moron. He doesn't even realize what he's done. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: So there is a guy who jumps from the Colts.

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Speaker 3: It feels like I could have knocked It feels like

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Speaker 3: it went right over his head, quite honestly. And then

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Speaker 3: who's eighty eight for the Texans?

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Speaker 2: That guy?

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Speaker 4: That's our guy. That's our guys. You gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 5: That's him.

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Speaker 3: So he's so unaware of what's going on that he

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Speaker 3: celebrates and as holding the ball like like we've done something.

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Speaker 3: His teammates are doing the same. Why wouldn't they be.

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Speaker 3: They're playing that's what you're supposed to do, right.

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Speaker 5: But that they're playing for their coats. They're playing.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. And so then what

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Speaker 3: happens on the two pointer, because it's they go for

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Speaker 3: the win, so they and they get the two Okay,

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Speaker 3: so this is just yeah, it's just males.

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Speaker 4: Just put it. He hit him again. It's Aikin's on

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Speaker 4: the two. It's as I thought it.

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Speaker 5: We got.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's a good looking target, great looking target when

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Speaker 4: you need guy he's got clutch meter. Obviously we know it. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the number of colts around the ball and not

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Speaker 5: one even dives or tries to make a play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you still could have salvaged it.

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Speaker 5: By just stopping the two point conversion.

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Speaker 3: The other thing you could have done is just kicked

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Speaker 3: the field goal and kept it going into overtime, kicked

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Speaker 3: the extra point I'm sorry, the extra point and just

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Speaker 3: gone into overtime. They would have had the tie breaker,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't they have with the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they could have just done that on fourth

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Speaker 4: and twenty. Just kicked a field goal. That would have

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Speaker 4: done it too. Field goal, field goal unit.

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Speaker 3: We're doing on side kick? You know what they always say,

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Speaker 3: take the automatic points, get that three, then get out

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Speaker 3: there and yeah and do it that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Wow. So

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Speaker 4: real quick, just as a do you mind? Do I

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Speaker 4: can I give a quick aside of something that I

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Speaker 4: came across yesterday. That was the most kind of huh

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Speaker 4: and then followed by so Steve kime.

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Speaker 3: Yep Arizona them remember when we were at the combine

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Speaker 3: he drafted like dress dressed like Kingsbury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like stuffed like a so siege go ahead. Steve

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Speaker 4: kime was on Dan Patrick yesterday. Do you know about this?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna do the Bosa story? Is that that you're

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Speaker 4: gonna do with the Kyler story?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, then I don't. There's a quote from him, okay,

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Speaker 4: and I think it explains a lot about his current situation. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Draft Day is probably the most accurate movie I've seen.

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Speaker 5: That that is not.

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Speaker 3: How did somebody like that ascend to being in charge

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Speaker 3: of personnel acquisition with an NFL team.

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Speaker 4: He did follow it up by saying teammates not going

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Speaker 4: to a party is a huge red flag, but draft

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Speaker 4: there is not. So you can't trade three seconds for

657
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 4: the sixth overall pick. That doesn't work. That doesn't add up.

658
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: I want all my picks back. That doesn't add up.

659
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: You also, did you guys see this thread this morning

660
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: of like the.

661
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: Driving, The driving was great. Job shout out to that

662
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: the driving. They're like over in my neighborhood and then

663
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: simultaneously downtown. And I mean it, I never I got

664
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: three hour drive.

665
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: I've never seen that movie in like from start to finish,

666
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: Like I've seen parts of it, but I've never like.

667
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 5: Miscas it from an entertainment standpoint, I was entertained by it.

668
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: But at no point do I think that any of

669
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: this is real.

670
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: It's so not realistic. And for a guy who was

671
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: a GM to be like, there's a bunch of most people, Wow, Rush,

672
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: I think Rush had a nice cameo. Wow.

673
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah is that I that's stupefying a that you would

674
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: say something like that. And so yeah, like I I

675
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: haven't seen it start to finish, but just when it's

676
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: if it's on, I'll watch for ten minutes here or there,

677
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: and and so I'm very familiar with the premise and

678
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: what's happening.

679
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: With it, and none of it that is not realistic. No,

680
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: not none of it. I'm sure there are things that

681
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: are realistic.

682
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: But.

683
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: Not that isn't.

684
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: Jonah Ryan from Veep like Costner's dude, Yes, that's a

685
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: great poll.

686
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I thought.

687
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's he's so good And Veep that would

688
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: have been funnier if he would have played that character

689
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: as Joana, Oh Ryan, that would have been a great

690
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: job right there. No, that's pretty problematic when you think

691
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: about it. So, yeah, that was funny that But yeah,

692
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: that guy this morning I saw on Twitter like from

693
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: like Rocky River to Geoga Lake back by somehow driving

694
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: by the west Side market and ending up here but

695
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: driving the wrong way into here, like a two hour

696
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: drive to work. Were they acting like the owner on

697
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: the amusement park? Is that what they were acting like?

698
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: It was?

699
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: I think so, man, So I've never since I've been here,

700
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: like those slides weren't up at Juaga Lake since I've

701
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: been here.

702
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: Those slides went down in the summer of the year

703
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: that the Cavs won the championship sixteen that summer where

704
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 4: that was it closed I think forever maybe like that July,

705
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: that July or that season.

706
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: But until that point they still had water slides and

707
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: all that.

708
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, those three at the top of that tower.

709
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: Were fantastic, really great, right of course zones at a

710
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: bad time on a water slide.

711
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: God, it's a nice little water park. Underrated.

712
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's gone and didn't Cedar Fair buy it

713
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: and then close it so that they could because they

714
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: have it up there now.

715
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that water park up there stinks even the

716
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: new because they've when in the last year or two

717
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: they put news maybe it's better. Well when I went

718
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: with the kids in nineteen.

719
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've done I think they've been lacking.

720
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: I think they've done news since then.

721
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: I could love it.

722
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best stuff there at good people.

723
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: Great people, unbelievable park.

724
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: All right, you want to do we'll do a little

725
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: draft day thing or not a thing.

726
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to do that real quick?

727
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, get the.

728
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: Texans won't take a quarterback. The Texans won't take a

729
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: quarterback at number two overall.

730
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: Thing. Don McLean says it, and Zero Line says that

731
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 4: they're both very plugged in Houston. Feels like thing, Yeah,

732
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: it does. It does seem that way to me.

733
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Uh, Tyree Wilson being drafted ahead of Will Anderson Junior

734
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: not a thing.

735
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: Tyry Wilson's got a Liz Frank thing. Apparently his draft

736
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: stock is plummeting right now.

737
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: So Will Anderson will go two overall if it holds

738
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: that way. Yes, Will Levis's stock is actually rising.

739
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: I think he goes in the top fifteen. Does that

740
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: make that a thing? Or does that he could go

741
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: four to Indy?

742
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: No, I would say top five, like your stock's rising

743
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 5: to the point where they're talking.

744
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: He could go four to Indy and me if Andy's

745
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: like we're taking a quarterback yeah or three? Yeah, then

746
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: they you know he could go there for sure. B

747
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: Jon Robinson will be a top ten pick.

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a thing. I think I think

749
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: he is. I think he is worthy of it. I

750
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: just don't think it will be a thing.

751
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: Where Ard podcast yesterday about what he said, everybody doesn't

752
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 5: want to everybody has him as a top five player

753
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: in the draft, and he said, but no one wants

754
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 5: to take it because the draft says and the and

755
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: the way things work now you don't take a running

756
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: back in the top ten. And he's like, you're all fools,

757
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 5: are you?

758
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 3: Though, here's the been I've said this for the whole

759
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: time on this kid. There is one spot a team

760
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: that has two ones, a team that has no weaknesses whatsoever.

761
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: That if you put him there, good night nurse, and

762
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: that's Philly. Yes, if you put somebody that dynamic next

763
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: to Jalen Hurts in a run first scheme behind that

764
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: offensive line in those weapons, good luck to you, because

765
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: not only will that would that be the perfect spot

766
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: for him, but it would be the perfect stop to

767
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: accentuate the quarterback. It makes him that more dangerous. The

768
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: only place is where it would be the case would

769
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: be there in Baltimore. Those the only places where you

770
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: would have have somebody else where you have to deal.

771
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: With back there.

772
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: But Baltimore has too many needs like Philly doesn't have needs.

773
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: And by the way, with Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins,

774
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: they are fine at running back. No, no, that's what

775
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

776
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: It's really it's only Philly. They he saw other place

777
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: where I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's what you Supposely.

778
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: The Eagles want to come up, and this is against speculation,

779
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: but they want to come up and get either Jalen

780
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: Carter the kid out of Georgia. Yeah, because they have

781
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 4: Nikobe Dean and Jordan Davis, so they feel like they

782
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: could with the Georgia influence, keep him on the straight arrow.

783
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: Then well, I don't think he's a kid who wasn't

784
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: on the straight and narrow. He did something really dumb

785
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: yet resulted not at his fault of being a part

786
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: of something where two people lost their lives. I don't

787
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: know that there's any other red flags with him.

788
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: Well then you showed to that workout like, but he's

789
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: play dealing with quite a bit, quite a bit going on.

790
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: I think supposedly that's what they want to do, is

791
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: go get him or like a dominant edge rusher, if

792
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: like will Anderson fell, I would love to see them

793
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: take Beijeon. I think he's somebody that I would like

794
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: to see go into the NFC. Although it's here's the thing.

795
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: You can find and look at all the best running

796
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: backs in the league right now. You know Saquan was

797
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: taken early. He hasn't stayed healthy his whole career. It's

798
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: just a position that you're, yeah, kind of destiny.

799
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: That's why to me, it's Philly because they have two

800
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: ones and they don't need a lot.

801
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so they can. It's a luxury pick. They could.

802
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: If he's great for four years for them home run ye,

803
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: then that's it. Like the Bears, if they didn't have

804
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: all the needs that they had to put him next

805
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: to fields would be a problem. Trying to decide who

806
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: has the ball on that front. Trey Lance would be

807
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: traded during the draft.

808
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: Not a thing. I don't think it's a thing either,

809
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: According to Boots on the Ground, Pedro not Pedro. He

810
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: says they're not idiots. I said, well, huh, I don't

811
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: think they are either. But they could have also.

812
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: Just they're not good at the court.

813
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: They could have Tyreek Hill justin fields and Bradley Chubb.

814
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: So that's Lance. It feels like they got the wrong

815
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: side of that deal.

816
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: But he's still does he listen to reason, Like with

817
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: most things, when you give him.

818
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 4: That, yes, yes he thinks that. Yes, he's other things,

819
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: no reason.

820
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: No, Stuborn as a mule. That's right wide receiver draft

821
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: in his first round overrated.

822
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: It just doesn't seem to be like it was. We've

823
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: become accustomed to where every year it's like megastars are

824
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: coming out, but.

825
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: That it's going to be a one year hiatus because

826
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: next year it'll be right back. Yeah, because you'll have

827
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior eleven, mecho Buka, you'll have I mean

828
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: that'll be five, that's Mechabuka. You'll have five first round

829
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: Ohio State receivers.

830
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 4: In three drafts, do you think, Okay, let me pose

831
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: this to you. Best recent college receiving rooms. Would it

832
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: be this Ohio State iteration. Would it be that Alabama one.

833
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: That had DeVonta Smith and Jalen Waddell and Ruggs.

834
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: And Judy Right and Judy Yeah, or LSU Jefferson and

835
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: Chase Well. I mean the high end Jerisson Marshall was

836
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: pretty good for them, for sure.

837
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: College Jefferson and Chase at the high end are just

838
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: the two of the three best receivers in the league.

839
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: So then then so that at that point that quality

840
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: is so great, Yeah, we won't know because all right

841
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: now we have Wilson and o lave out of this

842
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: Buckeye group, and they both were great. Wilson was the

843
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: Rookie of the year. A LaVey was great. I mean,

844
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: what Wilson's going to do this year with Rogers is going.

845
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: To be just ridiculous.

846
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: So that feels like like if it's between them or

847
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: the Alabama group, it feels like Ohio State would fall

848
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: in behind the high end of the LSU ahead of Bama.

849
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: But you're betting on Smith and Jigba being what you

850
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: think he is Marvin Harrison is going to be the

851
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: best player in.

852
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: College football next year.

853
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: He just doesn't play quarterback, but he's going to be that,

854
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: like that's a fact. So and then Abuka was actually

855
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: higher rated coming out. People get how great he was

856
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: because he got hurt last year. So I think that

857
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State group is a chance to be better like totality,

858
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: but they got it.

859
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: They do it there.

860
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Henn and Hooker will be taken higher than expected.

861
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: What what are you using as a baseline for expectation there, Gibbe.

862
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: I'll say top fifteen.

863
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: Now, No, I think if he goes in the first

864
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: round that means he was taken higher than expected. I

865
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: mean he hasn't and really first round.

866
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 5: Is going to be disagree with you that we talk

867
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: about next.

868
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: No one has a damn clue but that that has

869
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: been so that would be he'd be the free quarterback.

870
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: Like do they have him going ahead of other quarterbacks?

871
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: Yes? Really? Well I had a labs. We'll see.

872
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: I mean remember last year what happened like it was

873
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: only Pickett?

874
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, and we thought that were going to be

875
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 5: thought Willis was going to be.

876
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Speaker 4: The first round.

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00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: mel kiper Junior I reference this earlier. There seems to

889
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: be a consensus with the Titans moving up to the

890
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals to take CJ. Shroud at number three. He has

891
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: will Anderson going two. He has them getting Richardson at twelve,

892
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: so they get their quarterback and their defensive endas. Follow

893
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: some people down in Houston and there's they get all

894
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: excited about this number three pick that potentially this Houston

895
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: could go.

896
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 4: Up to three. Trade with arizonder the three.

897
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: So he has them going back to back two three

898
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: to be able to do it. I mean they could

899
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: give up twelve and then they could give up next.

900
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: Year's one from us. Why would you do that?

901
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: I guess then you get the defensive player you want

902
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: and you get the quarterback.

903
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Shouldn't you take the quarterback first? Then?

904
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, either way, whatever the order of it is, I

905
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: guess you could take the quarterback at two and then

906
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: trade up to three to get the defense.

907
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 4: I feel like if you take the quarterback at two,

908
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 4: you have a better chance at the price to trade

909
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: to three to be lessened, no doubt. So I don't

910
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: understand taking the defense player and then paying the Kings

911
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: rants and still pay three to pay the quarterback.

912
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point, Like, just take the quarterback

913
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: at two and then trade up to three and take the.

914
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: Right and hopefully the quarterback you drafted it too. I

915
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: guess somebody wanted to trade up for so now it's

916
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: reduced a game.

917
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 5: The name and Jeremiah has that he has the in

918
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah's one, he has Stroud to the Texans at two.

919
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: And then he moves so heres the common sense I guess, Yeah,

920
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: So he uses the common sense one to get to

921
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: where Houston. Yeah, because that would be the way, that

922
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: would be the order of things, as opposed to the

923
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: other way.

924
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 5: Kuiper has.

925
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: That deal that I just said was Stroud for three,

926
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: it would be it would cost this from the Titans,

927
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: likely involving pick numbers eleven and forty one in the

928
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: draft of twenty twenty four to one and a top

929
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: pick in twenty twenty five.

930
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 5: Sounds like a lot.

931
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: It's a lot. Yeah, I don't like what else. I

932
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 4: don't like this Ravens taking Jackson Smith and Jigba.

933
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: I don't like that for Jackson Smith and Jigbe either.

934
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: I would want I mean I don't want. I don't

935
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: need him in that division and I don't need uh.

936
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: He's just that would just he would not He would

937
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: not thrive there in any way shape or lewis to

938
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: the Colts at four levis to me, And it could

939
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: be very very wrong on this, most likely m He

940
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: feels to me a lot like Zach Wilsony to me, Okay,

941
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: not necessarily in terms of style, just in terms of

942
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: like wowed by certain things. But there's a whole lot

943
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: that I think is being overlooked with him. A number four,

944
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: the Rammets trading with the Chiefs to get Hendon Hooker

945
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 3: at the quarterback out of Tennessee. One thing that would

946
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: happen if all of this played out is like Tennessee

947
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: would then be Tennessee would be trading Tannehill at that

948
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: point or attempting to trade Tannehill, And then.

949
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: What would the ram would the Rams try to trade Stafford?

950
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: Is that my or that Hooker sits for a year

951
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: and Hooker's twenty four? Is he coming off of an injury?

952
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: He's coming up of a very serious injury that aren

953
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: Achilles or an ACL. I can't remember so ACL. So yeah,

954
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Like I guess what nobody knows about all Stafford's kind

955
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: of the thing that's floating out there because nope, you know,

956
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be healthy. If he is, he's top

957
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: ten quarterback in the league. Like if he if he

958
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: if you put him on some of these other teams,

959
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: and god knows, you don't need him in the AFC,

960
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: but if you put him on some of these other teams,

961
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: it would feel like, well that there's an ascent.

962
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: He makes all a sense in the world for Miami. Yeah,

963
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 4: but we don't need that. Could you imagine if Miami,

964
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 4: the Jets and the Bills were all that loaded. No Mania, Belichick.

965
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: If you're Belichick, then you then you go theether way,

966
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 3: you tank and you go you gotta get our guy.

967
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: H Daniel Jeremiah has strounded the Texans is give. He

968
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: pointed out, he has Houston moving back up to get

969
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: Will Anderson at three, at pick nineteen, Jackson Smith.

970
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: And Jigbu who is that? Who is who's the pick

971
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 4: of nineteen? Gibe?

972
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: He has Richardson not getting drafted in round one, which.

973
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: Is wild to me. That's the guy I'm And I

974
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: said this we had on Tuesday, we had danon Or

975
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 4: I had danaon and I was like, I've watched enough

976
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: stuff with Orlabski now and all these people talk about him,

977
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: and it sounds to me like that's the guy you

978
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: would take.

979
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 5: Richard say, at number nineteen, what do they need another receiver?

980
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 4: There a slot guy they got Godwin. No, that's silly,

981
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: Anthony richards feels like the guy that you take.

982
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: You know, Renner told me on Tuesday, he said, if

983
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: Richardson ceiling athletically is by far and away the highest,

984
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: yeahy by one hundred Miles and he said honestly, and

985
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 3: he goes, I'm not even saying this facetiously. If he

986
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: doesn't make it as a quarterback, he could go play

987
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: tight end. Like there's a kid for Matt Jones. I

988
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: think from Arkansas who did that.

989
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 4: Was a thousand yard receiver who did that for Jack

990
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: Logan Thomas and Logan Thomas. Yeah, so there's some examples

991
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 4: with that. I just think he's gonna make it. I mean,

992
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: everything I screwed up, you did, scrub. He goes any

993
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: of the Seahawks and he said, I think he's in

994
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: play for Seattle at number five, but they'll definitely take

995
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: him at twenty.

996
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the perfect spot for him. Look, it's

997
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: a bad joby do you give me? Sorry said small

998
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: P Dane Brugler.

999
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: I wish I still had it. It's over there.

1000
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: I mean the one time I said it was amazing,

1001
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: so amazing. Bruglar has Stroud going four to the Colts,

1002
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: Richardson eleven to the Titans, Levis twelve to the Texans.

1003
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: The Packers take a wide receiver now that Rogers gone,

1004
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba from Ohio State going, aren't.

1005
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 4: They at thirteen.

1006
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: They are, They're at thirteen in the Green and the

1007
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: Jets are at fifteen, so they would do it in

1008
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: front of they would pick it in front of of

1009
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: of the Jets.

1010
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: I like it.

1011
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: I crushed this from a actual really good Johns.

1012
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 4: It's all right, it's all good. I'm looking because I'm

1013
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: telling you bring back Esteban.

1014
00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: Original, Stevie original, original original, the the the. Yeah, all right,

1015
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: we've got a little a little fun with some prop.

1016
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: We'll have a little fun with that here in the

1017
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: second hour. Also take a look at the Baltimore Ravens.

1018
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: It does. There is no news on the Lamar Ravens

1019
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: front none, nothing's coming out of it.

1020
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: But it.

1021
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: Feels like he's that he'll be playing there though, and

1022
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: it could be maybe something that happens today. We'll put

1023
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: some perspective on all that as well. Second hour here

1024
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: of a draft day edition of Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

1025
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1032
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Speaker 3: Final hour of the program here on a draft day edition.

1033
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: No first round picks for us. We will not pick

1034
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 3: as scheduled until seventy fourth Overall, seventy three will be

1035
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: selected before we do. There will be. It would end

1036
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: up three teams in the first round with two picks,

1037
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: or is it four? I know it's Detroit, Seattle, Houston, Philly.

1038
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 5: Philly's got two firsts Philly.

1039
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: And then and then maybe Saints New Orleans has twenty

1040
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: nine and only twenty nine so it's only their first one.

1041
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: So there's four teams that multiple have two first rounders tonight.

1042
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: Can you imagine that?

1043
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: Philly your entire third round, third day three and.

1044
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: They used to pick to get a j Brown, like

1045
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: they what's amazing is but it speaks to the luck

1046
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, Like they picked second not that long

1047
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: ago and drafted Carson Wentz. Well, they didn't be draft

1048
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in the first round.

1049
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 4: It's because they kept drafting and they hit they quarterback

1050
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 4: till they got one.

1051
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and they got one in the second round?

1052
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: Ye who nobody thought would be this?

1053
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 4: Nobody? Nobody?

1054
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: And that's now here you go. All right, Gibby, what

1055
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: do you have here? You got a little little little

1056
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: prop fun.

1057
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a prop bets for this year's NFL.

1058
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: I like it.

1059
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 5: Are we going to track these little traveling music?

1060
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: Track? Track them? Track them?

1061
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 5: Cigar, you track them.

1062
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: I want to keep your piece of paper here and

1063
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: write what you say.

1064
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 5: Uh number one? How many round one draftees will be

1065
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 5: wearing glasses? Is the Is that sunglasses?

1066
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: Or well I was just gonna say, is that indoors

1067
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: are out? Where's the stage? Outdoors?

1068
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 5: Outdoors?

1069
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: Wearing glasses at the time of selection, or wearing glasses

1070
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: when they shake the commissioner's hand.

1071
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm going under.

1072
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: I feel like it has to be when they get announced.

1073
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: Here's a tough one. Who's are you going to figure out?

1074
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: Tell us what the outcome was? Give me I'm gonna

1075
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 4: go under.

1076
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: Less than less than eight and a half, will try.

1077
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 4: But if it's so, it's Kansas City time, so it's

1078
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: an hour behind, so it's seven.

1079
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: It will be sunny, Oh for sure, it'll be sunny,

1080
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: for sure. But like I'm guessing they're not gonna be

1081
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: out in the sun. They're gonna be in a covering room,

1082
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: in a green room with it.

1083
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: But it could be people who wears glasses, not just shape.

1084
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: There could be some of that.

1085
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: But I still think by the time you get to Godel,

1086
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: you're taking the glasses off. So I guess I think

1087
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 3: this is a really this would be a really tough

1088
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: one to adjudicate.

1089
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: All right, I'm saying that there too.

1090
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 5: Same. I don't know if I'll be able to find

1091
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 5: an answer for that, but I'll try. Based on how

1092
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 5: we're trying to define.

1093
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: That's a tricky one.

1094
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 5: How many round one draftees will be wearing a tie?

1095
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: The over under is nineteen and a half.

1096
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 4: Msay over.

1097
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: I still think that's It feels like people are still

1098
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: doing that, right, Like.

1099
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 4: Two thirds are still gonna be in tie.

1100
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still feel Yeah, it still feels like it's

1101
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: I know that we've we have dramatically uh hey, there's

1102
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: our old buddy Omar omarz the I know we have

1103
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: very much casualized the look of an American society over

1104
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: the last decade.

1105
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: I have in dramatic ways.

1106
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 3: But I still think that in these things, you'll see

1107
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: I would go over as well.

1108
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 5: I'm going under.

1109
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember what guys were last yeo. I'm

1110
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: trying to remember, like Garrett Wilson on the draft, did

1111
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: he have a tie, like I.

1112
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: Don't know, like there were the nice shirts in the

1113
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: in the sport code or the.

1114
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 4: Jack maybe AOI under a would be great?

1115
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 5: Uh real, real trance one trades, the over under is

1116
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 5: five and a half. Really that's a big number. I

1117
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 5: feel like, do.

1118
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: You count the Carolina trade?

1119
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: Do you count trades in that are just you know,

1120
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: trades in the first round tonight that happened.

1121
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: They have to happen tonight like tonight, I'm gonna go under.

1122
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm going six trades.

1123
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: I don't see six trades in the first round. I

1124
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: don't think there's even a mock with six trades in it. Yeah,

1125
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under it.

1126
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 5: I feel like there could be good two or three,

1127
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 5: but okay, uh, round one trades within the top ten

1128
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: tonight over under is one. So it's either not happening

1129
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 5: or it's basically happening.

1130
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: I think there's good there.

1131
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: It's happening for sure. I think there could be two.

1132
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: I think two. Yeah, same take the over.

1133
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 5: Total qbs drafted in round one over under four and

1134
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 5: a half.

1135
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be over.

1136
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: It's like someone will take hooker at the back end.

1137
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 5: Same total wide receivers drafted in round one over under

1138
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 5: three and a half.

1139
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: So most have three, right, who else.

1140
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: Is the kid from TCU.

1141
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: Ki kid from TCU Jackson Jackson Smith and jig Bet

1142
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 4: Addison and then sometimes Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee would

1143
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: be the fourth. I've seen him thirty first to Kansas

1144
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: City and a few I'm going under. I'm going to

1145
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: go over. It's receivers, right, I mean it takes and

1146
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: a Flowers.

1147
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: Weapons weapons one.

1148
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: If you're in the AFC right now, the pressure that

1149
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: is on you to they're all so close. They're also

1150
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: great if you if you're Kansas City and Jalen Hyatt sitting.

1151
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: There, why not.

1152
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 5: You got the best quarter of tires on it?

1153
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah.

1154
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 5: Total running backs drafted in round one over under is

1155
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 5: one and a half.

1156
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 4: Over take the over you're gonna get drafted Gibbeck Hope.

1157
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: A lot of people think that's where the Eagles will

1158
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 4: get a running back. They'll take the Gibbs at thirty.

1159
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 5: If they don't trade that pick, which I think they're

1160
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: actively trying to do. Total Alabama players drafted in a

1161
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 5: Round one over under three and a half.

1162
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: So you've got Brian Branch, Will Anderson, Will Anderson Gibbs.

1163
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 5: I think that's an under will.

1164
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: This be the fewest amount that they've had taken. Oh Young,

1165
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: Bryce Young.

1166
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: And Bryce Young. So over over So you're gonna get

1167
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: two right away. The question is do you get they're

1168
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: gonna get four.

1169
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 5: It's Alabama, they'll go over. Yeah, we forgot the number

1170
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: one pick. Drafts great. Uh. Total Georgia players drafted in

1171
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 5: Round one over under his three.

1172
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: So Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith. That's two automatics, locks, Broderick

1173
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 4: Jones a tackle. This goes in the top twenty in

1174
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 4: all of these. So you just need the fourth.

1175
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: No, that would do it because it's under three. It's

1176
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: not three and a half, so that would do it.

1177
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 4: It's a push. Yeah, you need four to win. Two

1178
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: to lose. Three are locks. I'll take the I think

1179
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: you can't. Don't think you can lose that.

1180
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 5: Finally, a little fun total SEC number number of SEC

1181
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 5: players drafted in round one the over under is twelve.

1182
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: Well, if we just follow our simple logic, we have

1183
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: eight Georgia and Bama players going in the first round, Levis, Hooker, Hyatt,

1184
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: that's nobody from l s U. That's nobody from Auburn,

1185
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: nobody from Misissippi State, nobody from Well Richardson. We're at

1186
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: twelve in our sleep.

1187
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: Over over.

1188
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: Hell, they could have they could have four quarterbacks. The

1189
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: SEC could If Hooker goes, it'll be because it would

1190
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: be Hooker, Richardson, Levis and.

1191
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 4: Texas Big twelve. So there's still big twelve.

1192
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 5: Uh, over twelve? What do you have for the Big ten?

1193
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under on that. I've said over on

1194
00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: basically everything too. Let's see you trying to look at

1195
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 4: what's this dynamic radio we're doing.

1196
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: He's trying to figure out what the number is on

1197
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 3: Big ten?

1198
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: What's Texas Tech?

1199
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 5: Now Big ten players drafting a Round one over under

1200
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: was nine and a half.

1201
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: Nine and a half Big ten. Yeah, it'll be three Buckeyes.

1202
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: Is Texas Tech going to the se they're saying, just

1203
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: Texas and Oklahoma Texas? Okay, Big ten, you're saying, so

1204
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: this one would have this would have CJ. Shroud, Devin

1205
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: Witherspoon from Illinois.

1206
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: It's two Smith and Jigman, Paris Johnson.

1207
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson, Smith and Jigua Lucas van Ness from Iowa. Five,

1208
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: Peter Skearonsky Northwestern. Six.

1209
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 5: I don't know how you get to nine and a half.

1210
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: Michigan doesn't have anybody that I can think of. Maryland, Yeah,

1211
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: Deontay Banks, Hey, that's seven. Joey Porter Junior. Oh, sure,

1212
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: that's eight. Wisconsin Keanu Benton. But that's the only mock

1213
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: I've seen.

1214
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 5: Go in the first round, last or borderline like I've

1215
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 5: seen Porter goings first pick of the second round of

1216
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 5: the Squeelers.

1217
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: Porter feels like someone who's gonna be good. There's a

1218
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: Mississippi state corner that's in the EMMANUAL'SBC to Now, if.

1219
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 5: You wanted one, the total number of Big twelve players

1220
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 5: drafted in round one, the over unders four.

1221
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: Well, they'll have the Texas Tech kid Bijon at Texas.

1222
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: Oklahoma's gotta have somebody Texas Texas alignment.

1223
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 3: There was a year a couple of years ago where

1224
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: Texas didn't have anybody drafted the University of Texas.

1225
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: I know that's wild. That's that's impossible. Uh huh. It's

1226
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting, to say the least. It's gonna be fun.

1227
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: We will continue our look around the NFL. We are

1228
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: in Baltimore, take look at the Ravens, try to get

1229
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: an update on where they stand with all of this.

1230
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank goodness you have. When I just

1231
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: saw a guess we hit Cadre on, I'm like, oh

1232
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: my god, I can't do the little marking of codright,

1233
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: So thank God, good job out you. Luke Jones will

1234
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: join us on that in a few minutes from now.

1235
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,320
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1236
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,680
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1237
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,760
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1238
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1239
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,280
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1240
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,920
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1241
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,600
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1242
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland.

1243
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: We are in Baltimore and we are having a little

1244
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: conversation about the Ravens. As of right now at two eighteen,

1245
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: I appear to be proven wrong at least outwardly.

1246
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: I thought that they would have certainty on Lamar Jackson

1247
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: by now. It's possible. A lot of cryptic tweets yesterday

1248
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: there are.

1249
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's possible that they do, and they're just there's

1250
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: no announcement of it. I just I don't believe that

1251
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: that organization would draft tonight without knowing who's at the quarterback.

1252
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: It just seems silly to me that they would do that,

1253
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: and they're an organization that doesn't do a lot of

1254
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: silly things. Luke Jones will join us on some of

1255
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: those specifics in about ten minutes between now and then.

1256
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: Let's get the categories in the Baltimore Ravens. Okay, what's.

1257
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 5: Well?

1258
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean that was a loud thing, right it. Yeah, yeah,

1259
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: uniforms Ravens.

1260
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 4: They're great, They're great. Have they even changed really?

1261
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: Oh, they changed the helmet. The helmet used to have

1262
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 3: the crest and now it's got the bird. When they

1263
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: originally launched, they had a crest.

1264
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: I don't even remember that. Like when they won their

1265
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: first Super Bowl though, they still they were at the bird.

1266
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: So I mean it's been Oh, I have no idea.

1267
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: But when they first went to Baltimore, there was a

1268
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: crest on their helmet instead.

1269
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 4: Of the bird. I like their uniforms. I think they're great.

1270
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: I like the white over black. I like the purple,

1271
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: the black over purple, black over black, the purple over white.

1272
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: I love all of them.

1273
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: So they only had the crest for three years.

1274
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: It was ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, Okay, yeah,

1275
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 4: so they won a Super Bowl with the Raven. I

1276
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 4: don't even remember that. They've always had that the raven

1277
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 4: on the head. Yeah, I do too.

1278
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: They are they are the one team in the league

1279
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: that should be in black head to toe, and when

1280
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: they do, it looks great. I like their purple over white.

1281
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: I like the black over white. I like their white

1282
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: over white. I think it's all a win. It all fits.

1283
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 4: It's a good brand. They haven't really changed anything. They've

1284
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 4: just brought back various combos at various times, and then

1285
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: they introduced for a while that that kind of the

1286
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: purple over the gold, which wasn't great. But I mean

1287
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: it's been a very similar uniform for their whole existence,

1288
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: and they're great.

1289
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 3: It's it's just what are the subtle differences, even just

1290
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: like it's now even the numerals pretty similar, very similar.

1291
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: The neck for a while on like the on the

1292
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: white jersey, there was like a little bit of a

1293
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 4: black neck when Nike he had those huge fat necks

1294
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: on your jerseys back in like the early twenty tens.

1295
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 4: So the neck is now all white. No, it's it's

1296
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: it's it really hasn't changed a.

1297
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: Whole lot had this white stripe on the side of

1298
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: their pants at one time when they had black uniforms.

1299
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 5: Yep.

1300
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: I actually didn't even mind the gold pants when they

1301
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: wore them. I thought those were fine too.

1302
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 4: I love the the black is where it's at. I mean,

1303
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: that's the mostly it's basically been like, oh, we brought

1304
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: back the purple jersey with black pants combination for the

1305
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 4: first time since nineteen ninety six. We brought back.

1306
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they look the way that they're supposed to look.

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Speaker 3: The all black is would be my favorite of theirs.

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Speaker 4: That's uh. They're a raven. That's what they share, like perfect.

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Speaker 3: By the way, that raven that they have on the

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Speaker 3: sidelines is the biggest damn raven I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Big bird.

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Speaker 3: That thing is a monster big. We don't have them

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Speaker 3: like that around here, do we have ravens?

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Speaker 5: Around here.

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Speaker 3: They all blackbirds. What's the difference crows?

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Speaker 4: We have crows.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's the difference. I mean is are

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Speaker 3: there are ravens bigger? This is something for the Mit

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: kids to look up stadium. I've been there a long

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Speaker 3: time ago, but it was a little of it. When

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Speaker 3: I was there, it was one of my favorites.

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Speaker 4: Ravens have bigger, curvier beaks relative to crows. Both have

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Speaker 4: bristles at the base of the beak. The ravens are

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: noticeably longer throat feathers are also quite shaggy. Common ravens

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Speaker 4: are much less common than American crows in the eastern

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Speaker 4: United States. Okay, so I think what we have around

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01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: here is probably crows, and they're a little bit like

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 4: ravens are a little bit bigger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that one they have on the sideline is huge.

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Speaker 3: The stadium's elite.

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 4: Great stadium, great experience, great intro, great, all of it,

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Speaker 4: all of it great, best best booth in the biz

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 4: by far for now. Well, of course it's too good

1334
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: a real estate. Sasha Brown's gonna take that from us.

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that that's a You'll never see that again

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: in a stadium ever. No, midway up fifty yard line

1337
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: press box. No, that's that's a thing of days gone.

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 4: By, right, prime real estate.

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: It's really is road trip. Yeah, I love it. I

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: love that whole area, d C, Annapolis.

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 5: Federal Hill.

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: But even just I mean like you do a little

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: tourist weekend out of it.

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01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 4: You go to d C, you do a little history,

1345
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 4: go to Annapolis, go.

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: To Anapolis, go to the Naval Academy.

1347
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: That's stunning. You can go on a wire tour, which

1348
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: I did one year. Did you really Alec Shiner was

1349
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 4: a big wire officionados, so did like some of the

1350
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: bars where they had been in the show, and yeah

1351
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 4: Nulty where he would go. So yeah, it was Baltimore's awesome.

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01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 4: Food's good. Our place is zoomy. Gibbe is a delight.

1353
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes you break bread with by the way, shout out.

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01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 4: Speaking of congrats to Modes, mister Modley. Yep, his book's

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01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 4: number one on a number one bestseller. Fantastic. It's awesome.

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it on Amazon. Do it right now.

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Must thing to do on a road trip. We kind

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: of went over that. There's a lot of different ways

1360
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: to do it. You could do it many away player

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: you want from their current roster.

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: By the way, it's called Vector's Heroes, Villains and Heartbreak

1363
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: on the Bridge of the US Navy Thomas B. Modley

1364
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 4: number one bestseller on Amazon, chieved yesterday.

1365
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: So aw shout out it's awesome. Yeah, that's great. Yeah,

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: player you want from their roster.

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01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: Current roster. Player that I want from their current roster.

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01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: Who's on their D line?

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 4: Nobody a great note, it's probably Marcus Williams, the free

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01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 4: safety or Roquan Smith to just give us a beast

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 4: dog at the second level. Yeah, let me see, I

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: mean Mark Andrews. But I believe in the chief Mark

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: Andrews would make a lot of sense. Though.

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Speaker 5: We do have crows, by the way, in.

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Speaker 4: Ohio, crows, but no ravens. Yep.

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01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, crows probably more abundant because of the clearing of

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Speaker 5: Ohio's vast forests.

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01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm dealing with crows on a rag puddy Gary

1379
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: and I see him every morning. They got an interesting

1380
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: roster like Ronnie Stanley and Linderbaum and yeah, that's but

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01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: I think that's it.

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: I think you have it right. I mean Ronnie Stanley's

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01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 4: on a battle Ronnie Sandy Good.

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Speaker 3: I also think like Roquan I like your idea of

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: Roquan Smith, like just just forget.

1386
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: About it, just to get that straight monster.

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all time favorite Raven.

1388
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 4: Ed Reid, Ed Reed. Ed Reid was so good.

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm pretty sure we put him in the Hall

1390
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 5: of Fame.

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, ed Reid would be. Ed Reid's a great one.

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: He's so cool man and there's not all the bravado

1393
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: with Ray Like it's.

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 4: Just no, he was cool. He's the coolest. Loved. Yeah,

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: I loved him. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's not

1396
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: that ad.

1397
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Read playoff team. Yeah, of course sure they are every year.

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: Oh we gotta find out who's playing quarterback for him.

1399
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it feels like that way matter.

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 5: It's culture can get you to where you need to be.

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 4: See it's like you and I talked about the other

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01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 4: day with the Squealers.

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 5: Culture gets them to at least nine and eight every year,

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 5: not this year.

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, there it's I can't. I mean they went

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: ten and seven last year. Baltimore did. How many games

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 3: did Hundley play four?

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 4: I think the last four four or five. He's a

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl prowler.

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Speaker 3: And they went ten and seven impossible with all their injuries,

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: makes no sense. Biggest off season addition or loss.

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 4: They lost Ben Powers to the Broncos. And I think

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 4: the only person that they've added and they lost klais Campbell.

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01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 5: Mountains.

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: It's the only person that they they signed this year

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 4: Nelson Agilor is that OBJ and OBJ? Yeah, so that's.

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 3: Their biggest off season addition will be who they pick

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Speaker 3: in the first round tonight and then whatever happens with Lamar.

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I assume he's going to be there. That'll

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: be That's kind of what you're waiting on. What they

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: do at ten? All right, I mean I'm sorry what

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 3: they do in the draft? What do they pick twenty two?

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: So, I mean it is this the spot where it's

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01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 3: do they try to They haven't been able to draft

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01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: receivers very well, They've.

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Speaker 4: Not at all. There's not a whole lot of coverage

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01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: of everything that they've done, by the way, which is

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Speaker 4: kind of amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's where they stand on on this thing. So,

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: but the whole thing revolves around Lamar.

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Speaker 4: What does that look like?

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 3: We'll get some perspective on that from Luke Jones. He

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Speaker 3: will join us Behind Enemy Lines Coming up next. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by Bally Bett

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Speaker 3: Coming soon to Hio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett, coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. As we

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Speaker 3: continue our off season tour, we head to Baltimore, Behind

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Speaker 3: Enemy Lines with the Ravens. Ravens reporter of Luke Jones

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 3: from WNST Radio joins us on the Twisted Tea Hotline,

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 3: brought to you by Twisted T hardeed T, official sponsor

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Speaker 3: for Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Look, Luke, let's

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Speaker 3: just start with the I don't know two hundred billion

1446
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 3: dollar question with Lamar. It's there's from thirty thousand feet.

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01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 3: It feels like there's no information. Looking at cryptic tweets,

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 3: Odell's there, there's some tweets there. What's how hard has

1449
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: this been for you guys to follow?

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 4: What do you think?

1451
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: What do you believe to be where we are between

1452
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 3: the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: And Lamar Wellsancy, first question, it's been extremely difficult. It's

1454
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 6: been exhausting. I mean, the pre draft buzz centered around

1455
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 6: a SpongeBob SquarePants tweet from Lamar Jackson earlier this week,

1456
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 6: so very cryptic, very little information, and as we all

1457
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 6: know by now, he doesn't have an agent, and as

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01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,919
Speaker 6: you guys know, agents are very much a major information

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 6: channel as it relates to contracts and roster moves and

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 6: things of that nature. So it's been difficult, but I've

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01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 6: seen what everyone else has seen. Look, I think everyone

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 6: around the league respects Lamar Jackson as a high quality quarterback,

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 6: whether you put him in the top three, top five,

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01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 6: top ten, whatever. But given all the circumstances and given

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 6: what his believed asking price has been, which is somewhere

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 6: in that Deshaun Watson contract territory, there just hasn't been

1467
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 6: that movement. So this kind of feels like, I mean

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 6: not kind of. It definitely is one of those major

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 6: checkpoints of this offseason to see if something happens. But

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Speaker 6: you know, I said that at the start of the

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 6: free agency. I said that when the Ravens placed a

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 6: non exclusive franchise tag on him, I thought maybe that

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 6: might be a sign of movement. When he made his

1474
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 6: trade request public, but no one has stepped up to

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 6: the plate. So I'm not gonna sit here and say

1476
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 6: there's you know, a zero chance of that. But you know,

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 6: my gut tells me that Lamar Jackson is going to

1478
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 6: be a Baltimore Raven at least for this season. Now,

1479
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 6: how that's going to play out with the tag and

1480
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 6: when he shows up and signs and all that still

1481
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 6: very much to be determined. But you know, short of

1482
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 6: the Ravens making a major move tonight for a quarterback,

1483
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 6: what's their alternative? So that's where I just keep coming

1484
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 6: back to, you know, what is it Akham's razor? Where

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,919
Speaker 6: the most you know, the most direct or the simplest

1486
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 6: explanation is the right one. And that's what this one

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 6: just feels like as the off season, as we get deeper.

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Speaker 4: Into this offseason, are we not overblowing this a little bit? Though?

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01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 4: I Mean, when you kind of look at the facts

1490
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 4: of it, you have a Pro Bowl quarterback and Tyler

1491
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: Huntley on your roster, So what's I don't know, what's

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01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 4: where's the leverage for Lamar? You got a Pro bowler there,

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 4: you know, well, well he was what's right?

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 6: But I mean, I mean the reality is at this

1495
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 6: point in time. Look, he can want the market to

1496
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 6: say that, sure, for a team to come forward like

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01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 6: the Browns did to get to Sean Watson, But the market,

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 6: you're you're always, you know, a prisoner to whatever the

1499
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 6: circumstances of the market are at any given time with

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Speaker 6: players or cars or houses or whatever. And you know,

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01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 6: it just feels at this point in time that the

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 6: market doesn't align with what Lamar is looking for. So

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 6: that's the thing, and you just said it, you know,

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 6: as far in terms of his leverage, I mean, we're

1505
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 6: talking about someone who's made roughly thirty two million dollars

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 6: in his career. And look, I'm not losing sleep for

1507
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 6: the guy. That's way more money than you and I

1508
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 6: will ever make. But even on the non exclusive franchise

1509
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 6: tag this year, it would double his career earnings. So

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 6: to sit there and you know, people have said, oh,

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 6: you're going to sit out? Is he going to do

1512
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 6: anything like that? That's where I keep coming back to

1513
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 6: this and saying, if he truly wants to cash in

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 6: for what the price he wants, he certainly needs to

1515
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 6: go out there and have a great year and stay

1516
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 6: on the field and not be injured at the end

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 6: of the season like the last two years. So you know,

1518
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 6: it is one of those things where you kind of

1519
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 6: just look at it and I again, there's a non

1520
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 6: zero chance that there is a team that's ready to

1521
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 6: pounce maybe after the draft, given the circumstances of the

1522
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 6: offer sheet, and then you could push back your two

1523
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 6: first round picks the next year and the year after that.

1524
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 6: But I don't know. It's one of those things. As

1525
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 6: more time goes on, it's like, if this is going

1526
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 6: to happen, I feel like, you know, the wheels would

1527
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 6: have been churning at this point. Yeah, it hasn't to

1528
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 6: this point.

1529
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 4: It is kind of wild. And yes, we've talked all along.

1530
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: We believed he was going to play for the Ravens

1531
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 4: or nobody, and playing for nobody makes no sense. Hence,

1532
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 4: as you said, he'll play for the Ravens this year.

1533
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: What did you make of the large and I think

1534
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: very large and we're big fans of this guy. The

1535
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 4: large amount of money that was just handed out to

1536
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham was that to entice Lamar Jackson, And it

1537
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 4: also I imagine limits, you know, the money that they

1538
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 4: have for Lamar Jackson now in the first year. These

1539
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 4: contracts would be structured with a one million dollar contract,

1540
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: probably in this first year anyway, as they are all

1541
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 4: around the league. But were you kind of surprised that

1542
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 4: that number for Odellan Did you feel like that was

1543
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 4: to move the needle, and yet here we are with

1544
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 4: the needle seemingly not being moved.

1545
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 6: Well, to answer your question about whether I was surprised,

1546
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 6: I was shocked. I mean, typically with the Ravens, if

1547
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 6: you tell me they're gonna sign Odell Beckham, I'll say, Okay,

1548
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty six. I mean, they you know, they

1549
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 6: always just seem to get those former star receivers that

1550
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 6: are well past their prime. Now beck to be thirty,

1551
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 6: you know, and the big question is, and you guys

1552
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 6: are obviously familiar with him. I mean, his last, you know,

1553
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 6: at least relatively healthy season was twenty nineteen, his last

1554
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 6: thousand yard season, so that was a long time ago

1555
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 6: at this point in time, you know, the Lamar tie in,

1556
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 6: I think some of that's been a little overblown. I

1557
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 6: think certainly it helps you know, if you want to

1558
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 6: throw consider it an olive branch, a carrot, whatever you want.

1559
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 6: In terms of hey, no, even if it's just a

1560
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 6: one year band aid him playing on the tag we're

1561
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 6: bringing in Odell Beckham, we want to wait, you know,

1562
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 6: and we'll see where we are at this point in

1563
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 6: that next year. So there's that factor. But I'll also

1564
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 6: throw out there, I'm not sure anyone else was given

1565
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 6: Odell Beckham fifteen million dollars. How much did that factor in?

1566
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 6: From his perspective and saying, okay, you know the Ravens

1567
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 6: can sell to Odell, and I think they did that.

1568
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 6: We're pretty confident Lamar is going to be here. Do

1569
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 6: we know that with one hundred certainty? We don't. So,

1570
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 6: you know, from from Beckham's perspective, he's trying to revitalize

1571
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 6: his career, you know, on a one year deal. You know,

1572
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 6: if there is some doubt that Lamar Jackson's going to

1573
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 6: be his quarterback, and as you mentioned, even if it

1574
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 6: is a Pro Bowl altered and Tyler Hutley, that's certainly

1575
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 6: a drop off, you know, that fifteen million dollar price tag.

1576
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 6: You know, it does feel a little more like that

1577
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 6: was a case where the Ravens couldn't make him an assurance.

1578
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 6: I think it certainly helps. But again, you know, as

1579
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 6: as far as how much it drastically impacts Lamar, I

1580
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 6: don't think it does anything financially, but I do think

1581
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 6: it certainly helps in terms of if you do need

1582
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 6: to kind of just massage this for another year and

1583
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 6: try to play nice and sing Kumbaya for one more

1584
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 6: season and then you try to figure it out next

1585
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 6: year at this time certainly helps. Having Odell Beckham added

1586
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 6: to that wide receiver group.

1587
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: Look, just historically, this is one of the smartest organizations

1588
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: in the sport. They've been that way for twenty years.

1589
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 3: As long as they've they've been in Baltimore, They've been

1590
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 3: one of the bright spots in terms of handling all

1591
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: of this stuff. It's just so hard for me to

1592
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: believe that they would draft tonight not knowing that Lamar

1593
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 3: Jackson was going to be the quarterback or not.

1594
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 5: Right.

1595
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think again, I feel that they

1596
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 6: have a high confidence level about this year. Then again,

1597
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 6: you never really know. I mean five years ago, almost

1598
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 6: to the day, I wasn't convinced that they were moving

1599
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 6: on from Joe Flacco, and then they drafted Lamar Jackson.

1600
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 6: Then they moved on from Joe Flacco in less than

1601
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 6: a year. You never really know. I think there is

1602
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 6: something to be said of you've been at this for

1603
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 6: more than two years, is there some resignation, even if

1604
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 6: it's long term in saying, you know, we need to

1605
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 6: start planning for the future. So that doesn't mean I

1606
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 6: think they're taking a quarterback in the first round. I

1607
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 6: think that scenario with them picking at twenty two is

1608
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 6: highly unlikely anyway, But I think it's something you have

1609
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 6: to at least consider when you've been at it at

1610
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 6: this that long, where you just ask, if both sides

1611
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 6: love each other that much, why can't you figure it out?

1612
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 6: You know, it's almost like what are those marriages that

1613
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 6: you know after a while you just throw your hands up,

1614
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 6: But you know it's certainly you know, it's it's been

1615
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 6: a major point of frustration in Baltimore. I know it's

1616
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 6: been a point of frustration for the organization. I'm sure

1617
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 6: Lamar's frustrated. But I think what was interesting, and to me,

1618
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 6: what was telling, is we saw the numbers the terms

1619
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 6: that Jalen Hurts just signed with the Philadelphia Eagles last week,

1620
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 6: and if you kind of look at that deal, and

1621
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's a carbon copy, but if you

1622
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 6: look at that deal compared to what we know about

1623
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 6: the reported offer the Ravens gave Lamar last summer, it

1624
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 6: wasn't terribly different, and that was, you know, seven eight

1625
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 6: months ago, whatever it was. So that tells you at

1626
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 6: the very least, even if they can't get something worked out.

1627
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 6: You know, some of the national media perception that we've

1628
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 6: heard the Ravens have quote disrespected Lamar Jackson, I'm not

1629
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 6: buying that whatsoever. We can debate whether you're sweet in

1630
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 6: the pot, whether you need to increase the off or whatever.

1631
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 6: But based on what we saw with that Hurts deal,

1632
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 6: you know, it's not as though what the Ravens have

1633
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 6: offered him has been woefully unfair or anything like that.

1634
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 6: It just hasn't been the Deshaun Watson deal. And we've

1635
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 6: seen a number of quarterback deals go down since then,

1636
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 6: and you know, I you know, again not to get

1637
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 6: into to it too much, but it seems that's been

1638
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 6: much more the outlier than some kind of you know,

1639
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 6: sea change the quarterback compensation.

1640
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 4: No, you're exactly right. I would caution, as a Cleveland Brown's,

1641
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 4: you know, employee for over a decade Pick twenty two,

1642
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 4: not always the best spot to find a quarterback. It

1643
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: certainly has not been for our franchise. So I would

1644
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 4: just urge caution there to the Ravens on that regard.

1645
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 4: You know, going back to Odell and just kind of

1646
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: talking big picture about this offense with Lamar without Lamar.

1647
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 4: You know, Todd Monkins brought in. He spent some time

1648
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: here with us. I think he's very smart, obviously did

1649
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 4: a great job at Georgia. You know, it felt like

1650
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 4: Odell got that contract because receivers don't want to come

1651
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 4: to Baltimore historically they have been. In fact, Hollywood Brown,

1652
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: who was very good friends with Lamar, said I can't

1653
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 4: play here anymore. This offense isn't conducive to me making

1654
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 4: the kind of money I want to And so you

1655
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: almost feel like for Odell, was it a one year

1656
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 4: grab or is there a belief that in the switch

1657
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: from Greg Roman to Todd Mounkin that they can actually

1658
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 4: run a passing offense that will produce the kind of

1659
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 4: numbers that the receivers and pass catchers outside of Mark

1660
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 4: Andrews would want to be a part of.

1661
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up because you know,

1662
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 6: as I was talking about back them a few minutes ago.

1663
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 6: I think that's certainly part of it. And was there

1664
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 6: a little bit of a tax you have to pay there,

1665
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 6: not just because of Lamar's uncertainty, but yeah, because of

1666
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 6: the stigma. Sure, And yeah you can you can sell

1667
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 6: people and say, okay, well Greg Roman's not here anymore.

1668
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 6: Todd Munkin, you know, say what you want about Georgia's offense.

1669
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 6: I mean, with all the success, there was still tight

1670
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 6: ends and running backs and we know that. But you know,

1671
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 6: it's not as though he wasn't part of that Tampa

1672
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 6: Bay offense before he went to Cleveland and they had

1673
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 6: thousand yard receivers and they threw the ball at So

1674
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 6: you know, Todd Mounkin, his reputation has been the kind

1675
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 6: of morph his offense to best suit his players. So

1676
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 6: you bring in an Odell Beckham, he's established you have

1677
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 6: clearly they at least think they have a high confidence

1678
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: level in terms of his health and where he is physically,

1679
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 6: and they know what he can do. And you know,

1680
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 6: they've got some other young receivers like Forrashad Bateman their

1681
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 6: first round pick two years ago, that they're still looking to,

1682
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 6: you know, pop and for him to stay healthy, because

1683
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 6: he's been quite impressive when he's been on the field.

1684
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 6: So you know, I think with Mounkin there certainly is

1685
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 6: a thought. And look, this is still a John Harball team.

1686
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 6: I don't think the Ravens are going to suddenly become

1687
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 6: overly pass happy, but I think you're going to see

1688
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 6: more balance. I think you're going to see a real

1689
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 6: aim to be more efficient and more explosive in the

1690
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 6: passing game, and certainly they think Beckham can be a

1691
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 6: big part of that if he can stay healthy.

1692
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: Look, the Raven's been such a fixture in the postseason.

1693
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: It's you know, we missed it last year. You want

1694
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: to get back to it. That's why you have Deshaun Watson.

1695
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 3: That's why all those things happen. Man, You look around

1696
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 3: this now with with Rogers in here too. We were

1697
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: doing this earlier in the week on the show. There's

1698
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: like eight, nine ten teams in the AFC that look

1699
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 3: in the mirror in the morning and say, yeah, we

1700
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: can go win the Super Bowl. I don't know that

1701
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: we've ever seen anything like this, and I think with

1702
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: that comes tremendous pressure to keep pace, doesn't it.

1703
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 6: It's wild it really is. I was I was just

1704
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 6: talking to one of our guys at WNST about this

1705
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 6: earlier today, where you know, you look around, I mean,

1706
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 6: how about Russell Wilson now with Sean Payton. I mean,

1707
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 6: as much as Russell Wilson was was a you know,

1708
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 6: kind of a disaster last year, I don't think anyone's

1709
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 6: ready to or should be writing.

1710
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: Him off completely now we're not.

1711
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you look at the AFC East now

1712
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 6: where wow, it feels like the New England Patriots are

1713
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 6: the team that is, you know, kind of at the

1714
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 6: bottom looking up at everyone. I mean the AFC North

1715
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 6: with you know, the Ravens, assuming Lamar and obviously what

1716
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and the Bengals have done. And you know,

1717
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 6: I mean we'll see what happened, what Kenny Pickett looks

1718
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 6: like in year two with Pittsburgh. And you know we've

1719
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 6: talked about the AFC West, you know, going back to

1720
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 6: last year with Herbert and Russell Wilson and you know

1721
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 6: the King and Patrick Mahomes. I mean it's just you know,

1722
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 6: like you just said, you can rattle off eight, nine,

1723
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 6: ten teams where you can make a very reasonable argument

1724
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 6: to make the playoffs, but there's only seven, right, So

1725
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 6: I mean, it really is wild. And that's where I'd

1726
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 6: be remiss if I didn't at least mention you know,

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01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 6: there's been smoke as crazy as it as it is,

1728
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 6: and I'm not convinced DeAndre Hopkins there's been smoked still

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01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 6: for the Ravens to even be after him. Now, also

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 6: Kansas City and Buffalo. You know you've heard some reports

1731
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 6: and rumors there. But with this being the draft, that's

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01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 6: another big name. And you just mentioned this arms race,

1733
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 6: with all this offensive firepower on all these quarterbacks, it'd

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01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 6: be something if DeAndre Hopkins joined the mix somewhere in

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 6: the AFC, coming over from Arizona. So that's just something

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01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 6: else to whet your appetite as we get ready for.

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Speaker 4: The draft to night, it's gonna be wild. If you

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 4: had to give us your turn in the card, who

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: do the Ravens take.

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a corner. I mean, I

1741
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 6: could really see Deontay Banks from Maryland. I think Joey

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 6: Porter Junior from Penn State. I think those are the two.

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01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 6: First of all, there's both both would be fun stories.

1744
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 6: I mean, the former Pittsburgh Steelers Son who was such

1745
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 6: a bitter rival of the Ravens, and in the case

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 6: of Deonte Banks, be the first terp that the Ravens

1747
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 6: have drafted since Tory Smith in twenty eleven. Both filled

1748
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 6: their biggest immediate need at cornerback opposite Marlon Humphrey. So

1749
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 6: my gut tells me it's gonna be one of those

1750
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 6: two guys, which tells you probably won't be either of them,

1751
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 6: because that's just how this goes. And I'm very rarely

1752
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 6: am I correct talking about the draft, but hey, it's

1753
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 6: still a lot of fun, it.

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01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: Sure is, Luke, great talking to you, man, Thanks so

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01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: much for your time.

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01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 6: No problem, glad to do it.

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01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: That's Ravens reporter Luke Jones from w NST Radio on

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,600
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Speaker 4: Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. When was the last time there

1761
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 4: was this much kind of uncertainty around a Baltimore Ravens team.

1762
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 4: It has to have been quite some time, right.

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Probably going into what was Harbaugh's lame duck here the

1764
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 3: year that they'd drafted Lamar. I mean the drafting of Lamar.

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01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: I mean, they still had Flacco at that point, they'd

1766
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 3: recently paid him. Harbaugh was attached to Flacco at the hip,

1767
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 3: and I remember specifically in that draft like just not

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01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: Baltimore with him. You know, that was one of those

1769
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 3: things where with Lamar he was so electric at Louisville,

1770
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 3: but it was also like kind of had to be

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01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: the right place, right And.

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 4: What's wild about that? We say that turmoil that lame

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01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 4: duck Yar. They had gone nine and seven the year

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: before then they go ten and six as Lamar kind

1775
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 4: of takes over. At the end of that season, they

1776
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 4: get blasted in the wild card game, remember by the

1777
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 4: Chargers who played three safeties and were like, Oh, everybody's

1778
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 4: got it all figured out. Then he comes out and

1779
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 4: as the MVP. Yeah, it's wild. I mean the only

1780
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 4: losing season that Harbaugh's ever had was or he had two.

1781
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 4: He had twenty twenty one they went eight and nine,

1782
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 4: and in twenty fifteen they went five and eleven. Yeah,

1783
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: they just don't. It's just not what they do. No,

1784
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 4: they've been to the playoff though for the last five

1785
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 4: years now they have not gotten deep into the playoffs.

1786
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 4: They haven't gotten past the division round. Lamar has only

1787
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 4: won one playoff game.

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: Well, and the other thing that's really difficult is they're

1789
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 3: in an AFC now where you've got to be able

1790
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: to throw it when everybody knows you're going to be

1791
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 3: able to throw it, and you've got to be able

1792
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: to score forty in the postseason thirty five in the postseason.

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01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 4: They're not built for that. They're not, and they won't

1794
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 4: be as long as he's their quarterback. And that's why

1795
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, the best thing for Lamar, his best

1796
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 4: best path to win a Super Bowl as a player

1797
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 4: is in the NFC. Yeah, it just is. It's just

1798
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: what the gauntlet that you have to go through in

1799
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 4: the AFC is just too tough. There will be a

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01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 4: game where you are not going to control the game

1801
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 4: script and four games you're gonna need. It's just it's

1802
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 4: just that's the way it is. So I think that

1803
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 4: all parties would benefit from that and it will be

1804
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 4: a I'd be curious, see now, if a guy, if

1805
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm them, and let's say Anthony Richardson falls, I'm taking

1806
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 4: a shot on him, or I'm trading up to get

1807
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 4: him and going in and sending Lamar somewhere so there.

1808
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 4: The notion that nobody wants Lamar is insane.

1809
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 5: To me, of course.

1810
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you put him on Atlanta right now.

1811
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: Favorites, they're the favorites in the division.

1812
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I'm with you.

1813
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: I'm with you, and I think those are the I

1814
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe that is something that happens tonight.

1815
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 4: It's can you imagine put him on Washington, put him

1816
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 4: on the Commanders?

1817
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think the commis to me, the Commies are

1818
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: a team that's riped ripe to go one in sixteen.

1819
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 3: They might be too good for it on their team

1820
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: is like way too good for it. Yeah, I mean

1821
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: that the problem is that they still have that front.

1822
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 4: They kept them all. Yeah, yeah, they're not going to

1823
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: be able to just and they've got Dotson and McLaurin

1824
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: and that beach. The kid they had was a Brian

1825
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: rob the guy who got shot in the leg.

1826
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah Robinson, the kid out of Alabama.

1827
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he solid.

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01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, gonna be uh yeah that I'd love

1829
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 3: to get him out of there. That would be a mess, though.

1830
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Odell with a rookie quarterback Richardson Fell

1831
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: or something like that that would not go well. No,

1832
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: all right, so much more to come. You listen to

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Speaker 3: fifty ESPN, Cleveland. What would shock you tonight? In recent years,

1839
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 3: we've gotten the A. J. Brown trade, We've got obviously

1840
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: Rogers wants out happened.

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, theft here a couple of years ago, I think

1842
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 4: would shocked me. The Ravens Sacond quarterback would shock me.

1843
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 4: I think a stud receiver being traded for a pick

1844
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me, but it would also be fun. And

1845
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 4: then to me, it just feels like if Miami was

1846
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 4: going to do anything and be like you know what,

1847
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 4: I just understand how they can have assembled this roster

1848
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 4: and be like we can roll with to a and

1849
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with his talent.

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01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's I mean, his talent, his head

1851
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 3: and it's just his health. Like the fact that you

1852
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 3: would just I mean, are they waiting on.

1853
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 4: Stafford knows that system like it's a similar thing to

1854
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 4: what he did with McVeigh. It's built off of many

1855
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 4: of the same principles, Like that would be the one.

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01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 4: Stafford to Miami that they don't have a one. Do

1857
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 4: they need a one for him? Or can they get

1858
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 4: a future one for him? Do they care? Like I don't.

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01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 4: I don't want that. Are you trying to It doesn't

1860
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 4: feel like that built to compete?

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01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 6: No?

1862
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 4: And then if you trade him, you trade Donald too.

1863
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 5: Like last year, wasn't it Marquise Brown that got traded.

1864
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: AJ Brown and Markus Brown? Marquis too? Yeah?

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01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, an agent is Hopkins getting moved somewhere tonight?

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01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: Could be I mean that could be that Arizona would

1867
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 4: be the receiver. That could be the way that that

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01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 4: thing goes.

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01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 3: I still love it. We don't have a pick. I'll

1870
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 3: still love it. It'll be on all great, I'll be I'll.

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Speaker 4: Be into it and you can listen to you guys

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