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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, an evil millionaire socialite who

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Speaker 1: slaughters two little boys while racing her Mercedes in a

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Speaker 1: entitled demand from behind bars. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: The socialite I'll never forget her name, Rebecca Grossman, who

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Speaker 1: is convicted of murdering two little boys two brothers with

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Speaker 1: a drunken and booze soaked lunch, demands her civil trial

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Speaker 1: be moved because of quote sensationalized coverage of the crimes.

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Speaker 1: She insists she should not be tried in La County

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Speaker 1: after the parents of Jay eight and Mark eleven brothers

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Speaker 1: sued her for damages after the boys were run down

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Speaker 1: in Westlake Village there in La Now, according to court

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Speaker 1: documents we've obtained, she says, Grossman says, this court is

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Speaker 1: requested to issue in order changing the place of trial

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Speaker 1: because an impartial trial cannot be had in La County

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Speaker 1: and nearby vicinities. She's serving fifteen toly for two counts

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Speaker 1: of second degree murder and she is claiming other people

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Speaker 1: are biased. Okay, what do we know about the case.

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Speaker 1: There's so many questions. Let's start it off.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: Just after seven pm on a September evening, Jacob and

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Speaker 3: Mark Iskander, their siblings and parents, go for an evening

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Speaker 3: stroll to a nearby lake. The boys enjoy ruller bleeding

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Speaker 3: and skateboarding. The six member family is heading home, crossing

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Speaker 3: in a crosswalk at a three way intersection when mother

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Speaker 3: Nancy heard a speeding car barreling their way. Says her

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Speaker 3: only managing to grab one of them, a five year old,

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Speaker 3: dies at the scene. Jacob dies later at the hospital.

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Speaker 3: According to police, Mark was thrown two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: four feet.

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Speaker 1: Two one hundred and fifty four feet. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: that coming up on the scene and seeing a little helmet,

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Speaker 1: a child's scooter and crime same tape with me an

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Speaker 1: all star panel to break it down and put it

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Speaker 1: back together again. First of all, founder of Class Kids Foundation,

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Speaker 1: Mark Class. You can find him at Classkids dot org.

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Speaker 1: And that's with a K. Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina trial lawyer.

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Speaker 1: You can find her at Ncdomestic Law dot com. Renowned

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Speaker 1: psychiatrist joining US of Atlanta, doctor Angela Arnold at Angela

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Speaker 1: Arnold MD dot com. Founder director of the Cold Case

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Speaker 1: Research Institute, Former president of Mad Georgia Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood

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Speaker 1: Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star of a new

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Speaker 1: series on the True Crime Network, Poisonous Liaisons. Joseph Scott Morgan.

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Speaker 1: But first to the lead news anchor W Dbo Ray Caputo,

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Speaker 1: Ray Caputo, two brothers dead and one fell swoop, one

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Speaker 1: just nine years old, the other just eleven. What happened?

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Speaker 4: Well, Nancy, this was a really hot day that happened

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Speaker 4: at a Westlake village, California. It's about an hour west

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Speaker 4: and the family goes out. Jacobs and eight eleven there

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Speaker 1: They're with their whole family. It's not like the children

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the road riding their scooters.

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Speaker 1: They're in a crosswalk with their family. Correct.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a little march crosswalk.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm I wanna understand where this is Mark Class,

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Speaker 5: Well, it's several hundred miles from where I am, but

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Speaker 1: You know, when you say a suburb of LA. Having

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Speaker 1: and I'm just imagining this family. You know, Ray Cooputo,

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Speaker 4: They're getting pushed around. But you know, everybody was there.

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Speaker 1: Boys, the whole family together. You know, when I go

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Speaker 6: A family of six was walking across this crosswalk when

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Speaker 6: tragedy struck. Captain Salvador Vissera with the La County Sheriff's

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Speaker 7: The family were in a marked cross crosswalk, clearly marked.

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Speaker 1: To Ray Capudo, did the two boys nine and eleven

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's just terrible, Nancy.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the boys died at the seat. He

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the woman hit the little little boy and carried

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Speaker 1: They're in a crosswalk. There are six people, including two

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Speaker 1: there as coming up over hill because it's too dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So as if you couldn't see them a mile away.

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Speaker 1: We learn from witnesses that one of these two little

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Speaker 1: one hundred feet. Crime stories with Nancy Grace spoiled brat

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Speaker 1: socialite Rebecca Grossman issuing demands from behind bars that her

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Speaker 1: civil trial be moved. In a further attempt at sympathy,

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Speaker 1: her lawyers claim her family got death threats. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: last I looked, they were still alive, and well, she's

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Speaker 2: Knew who she is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you'd have to be living under a rock

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Speaker 1: with ear muff song not to know who Rebecca Grossman is.

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Speaker 1: That does not mean they cannot be impartial. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for Pete's saint, look at Shan Combs's trial, who didn't

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Speaker 1: three of the five counts good luck with that, Grossman.

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Speaker 1: What more do we know about the case? I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to you, Wrek Copudo. This was in

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Speaker 4: Well there was a cross walks. YouMagine a team and

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Speaker 4: And then there's a crosswalk. So my assumption is is

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Speaker 4: believe that she may have taken a turn where there

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Speaker 4: she was going really fast. And I've seen this on

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Speaker 1: If you're coming down a road like you're saying there's

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Speaker 1: a hill coming down. You can see down. It's not

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Speaker 1: suddenly you're in a crosswalk and there are people in

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Speaker 1: the middle of it. Cheryl McCollum, you're the former president

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Speaker 1: of Mothers Against Driving Georgia.

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Speaker 8: Help me out here, Nancy.

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Speaker 9: There was so many things this woman did wrong before

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Speaker 9: that accident.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking right now about the crosswalk. Crosswalks are

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Speaker 9: It, correct, but not somebody that's drunk. It could very

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Speaker 9: well be she was fiddling with the radio. It could

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Speaker 9: be that she was going through her purse.

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Speaker 1: Marquez with Tina Pattel CBS LA. We have more breaking news.

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Speaker 6: A driver has been arrested after a crash last night

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Speaker 6: in Westlake Village that killed two children. CBS two is

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Speaker 6: Tina Patel is live with the latest on this investigation.

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Speaker 6: It's heartbreaking developments this morning, Tina.

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Speaker 10: It really is. One boy died here at the scene.

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Speaker 10: saying whether they are related. But you can see the

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Speaker 9: Think about that, Nancy.

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Speaker 9: But Nancy, think about the fact that she's already hurt

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Speaker 9: She made the choice of getting that child off the

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now, I want to go straight out

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Speaker 1: What in the world would make you keep going after

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Speaker 12: It's such a horrific act, Nancy, that most of us

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Speaker 9: On top of her.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that for a moment. I want

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what the deputy said.

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Speaker 4: What they found her about a mile down the road. Answer,

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Speaker 1: Here, we'll tell you how. I learned that dui. Driving

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Speaker 9: She did nothing to help this family. She did nothing

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Speaker 1: You know, Cheryl, suffering the sudden and criminal death of

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Speaker 9: Kept going what that must be like to them? I mean,

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Speaker 9: he was fine. But as a mother, you just, you know,

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: Wealthy socialite Rebecca Grossman accused suspect number one in mowing

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Speaker 1: She was charged with suspicion of voluntary manslaughter and DUI.

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Speaker 1: This is a montage of all the coverage about how

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Speaker 13: So many of us at ABC News know about the

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Speaker 14: I just wanted to take a moment of your time

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Speaker 13: Another miracle at the gross Burn Center here at Southern California, Astoria.

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Speaker 5: The Grossman Burne Foundation has launched a campaign to stop

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Speaker 6: A local oscar winning special effects artists has become a

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Speaker 15: Rebecca Grossman of the Grossman Burne Foundation found out about

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Speaker 15: Eustonce Rebecca takes the prosthetics, travels to Indonesia and delivers

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Speaker 1: You're hearing so much about the Burne Foundation. Remember, this

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Speaker 1: listen to Tina Patel CBS LA.

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Speaker 16: Investigators arrested a fifty seven year old driver and charged

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to you, Mark Class,

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Speaker 1: it was a hit and run. She was arrested about

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Speaker 5: Now she the nonprofit world is full of hit Chris.

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Speaker 5: It's full of wealthy people who sit on boards of

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Speaker 5: They can talk about how wonderful missus Grossman is and

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Speaker 5: the woman who plowed down two little boys, bumped one

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Speaker 5: This is a woman with no conscience. This is a

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I know that she's charged with suspicion dui.

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Speaker 1: Now you know the case will be ruined if they

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Speaker 1: She was GUI, so they have her charge with suspicion dui.

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Speaker 1: Why would they have charged her with that, Cheryl, There.

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Speaker 9: Either they could smell alcohol in her breath, there was

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Speaker 9: But Nancy, the other thing they're missing. They don't have

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Speaker 1: She didn't stop good point, good point.

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Speaker 9: So there's so many things they can't get her accurate speed.

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Speaker 1: We do know this though, Cheryl. Now this is good

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Speaker 14: Explain, Yeah, the legal limit, dependent upon where you are,

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Speaker 14: Whereas you or I might have a drink couple of

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Speaker 14: glasses of wine or something and we're out like a baby,

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Speaker 14: this woman might could go through two or three bottles

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Speaker 14: of wine, so be upright and functioning. Uh so's it's

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Speaker 14: kind of a hit or miss. They need to have

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Speaker 14: done this early on.

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Speaker 1: And look at the front end of her Mercedes. You

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Speaker 1: can see it at climeboline dot com.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, if I could address another car, Yeah, if

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Speaker 14: I could address that. This is a full size Mercedes Sedan, Nancy.

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Speaker 14: And you know, Mercedes, one thing they're known for. It's

449
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Speaker 14: not just a luxury car. They're known as being a

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Speaker 14: safe car, well built. And Nancy, it looks like she

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Speaker 14: ran into a damn telephone pole. It's a center mass strike.

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Speaker 14: And just so people at home will understand, if you

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Speaker 14: imagine that great big Mercedes symbol that sits right in

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Speaker 14: the center of the grill, that's gone, and not only that,

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Speaker 14: the hood itself is crushed in. This gives us an

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Speaker 14: indication that when she struck these two little boys, as

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Speaker 14: you mentioned just a second ago, in front of their parents.

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Speaker 14: Mind you, she was traveling at such a high rate that,

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Speaker 14: at least because I don't have all the data from

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Speaker 14: the scene, it gives the appearance that she hit a

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Speaker 14: fixed object, Nancy, not some non anchored person like these

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Speaker 14: two children. She hit something at such a high rate

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Speaker 14: of speed it literally collapsed the front of that car.

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Speaker 14: I don't see how the airbags kept from deploying. And

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Speaker 14: if you look at that image real quick, she did

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Speaker 14: try to flee. The only reason she didn't get away.

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Speaker 14: If you take a real close look at that image

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Speaker 14: on crime on Line, you'll see that there are fluids

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Speaker 14: that have poured out of the bottom of this thing,

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Speaker 14: so it disabled the vehicle. My guess is, as Ray

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Speaker 14: had alluded to earlier, is that if she could have

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Speaker 14: put as much distance between her and that event, that

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Speaker 14: that homicide, then you would have had time for the

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Speaker 14: blood alcohol to metabolize in her system. She would have gone.

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Speaker 14: And this has happened numbers of times with high profile

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Speaker 14: people over the years. If you don't have that science

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Speaker 14: to back it up, if you don't know what the

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Speaker 14: BA is at that moment in time, you've lost it.

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Speaker 1: Foreverything crime stories with Nancy Grace in the last days,

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Speaker 1: millionaire social like Rebecca Grossman making demands from behind bars.

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Speaker 1: Does it never end with this woman? What happened that

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Speaker 1: day when two little brothers were run down dead by her,

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Speaker 1: and then she lied about it? Six family members were

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Speaker 1: crossing the three way intersection in a marked cross walk

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Speaker 1: on the road. The parents heard the speeding Mercedes. They

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Speaker 1: could hear it speeding and hearing the car, they reached

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Speaker 1: out to grab their children. They grabbed Zachary and Violet.

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Speaker 1: Mark and Jacob were too far away. They heard the

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Speaker 1: speeding car. Cheryl, now you understand the legal implications of this.

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Speaker 1: They could hear it at a distance speeding. There were

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Speaker 1: no skid marks. The parents grabbed the children they can reach.

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Speaker 1: The ones they couldn't reach were mowed down. Analyze it,

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum.

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Speaker 9: Nancy, what you're going to have is you're going to

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Speaker 9: have the police go They've got to go back. They've

496
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Speaker 9: got to get video from every ring camera. If they

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Speaker 9: have the flock system, they've got to get that video.

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Speaker 9: They've got to trace her actions backwards. Where did she drink,

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Speaker 9: how much did she drink? Where did you get it

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Speaker 9: from that she paid for it? Was it already at home?

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Speaker 9: Was she had a bar when?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to retrace all of their her steps.

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Speaker 1: At least I.

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Speaker 9: Hope they are. That. They've got to Nancy, because they

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Speaker 9: don't have anything else, because again they know the blood

506
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Speaker 9: alcohol is going to be contested. They know that they're

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Speaker 9: going to have a fight on their hands. So they've

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Speaker 9: got to go back and show, just like you used

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Speaker 9: to do that, this crime didn't occur at nine forty

510
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Speaker 9: seven PM or six forty five. This crime occurred at

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Speaker 9: two o'clock when she took her first drink. It occurred

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Speaker 9: at three fifteen when she took the next one. It

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Speaker 9: occurred at five sixty when she had her third one,

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Speaker 9: and then she chose to get in the car after

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Speaker 9: five or six or a bottle. And that's what they've

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Speaker 9: got to show the importance of that. They've got to

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Speaker 9: go back and show every speeding ticket. They've got to

518
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Speaker 9: show every failure to maintain lane. They've got to show

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Speaker 9: every DUI she's ever had, even if they reduced it

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Speaker 9: to you know, whatever, they might have reduced it to

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Speaker 9: reckless driving or such. You know, we all know reckless

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Speaker 9: driving usually the DUI that's been reduced. They got to

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Speaker 9: look at every single one, every single time her prominent

524
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Speaker 9: husband has saved her. They've got to go talk to

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Speaker 9: friends and said, hey, how many contail parties does she throw?

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Speaker 9: How often do y'all know her.

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Speaker 1: To you know, it's going to be critical that they

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Speaker 1: trace her steps that day. Amen, Because Mark Class, I mean,

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard accident used in DUIs? It's no accident,

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Speaker 1: Mark Class, Because, as Cheryl McCollum was saying, you start

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Speaker 1: in the day drinking, you decide to get your car keys,

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Speaker 1: You decide to walk out to your car after you've

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Speaker 1: been drinking. You decide to insert the key in the

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Speaker 1: ignition and start the car, put it reverse and then

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Speaker 1: drive there you go. All those were conscious decisions, Mark Class.

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Speaker 5: There were conscious decisions. Why a woman who's probably done

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Speaker 5: that hundreds of times and doesn't really seem to care

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Speaker 5: about the safety of anybody else, feels that she's privileged

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Speaker 5: enough that she can do what she wants when she

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Speaker 5: wants and have some kind of a sterling reputation and

541
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Speaker 5: a lot of money to fall back on.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina, try a lawyer

543
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Speaker 1: at the scene. We've seen so many celebrity walk a

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Speaker 1: straight line tests, touch your nose tests or the ABC's test.

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Speaker 1: What other tests are performed at the same are supposed

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Speaker 1: to be performed when cops suspect do UI.

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Speaker 8: Well, obviously the markers are a breathalyzer, she could refuse

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Speaker 8: the breathalyzer. She refuses the breathalyzers, they'll take blood work

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Speaker 8: at the hospital or wherever she can carcerat as I

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Speaker 8: would suppose. They can do the field sobriety tests such

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Speaker 8: as heel toe.

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Speaker 9: They also can.

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Speaker 8: Take other steps to determine whether or not they're drinking,

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Speaker 8: such as alcohol bottles in the car, the smell of

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Speaker 8: alcohol on that lady's breath.

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Speaker 1: We do know that this prominent socialite, Rebecca Grossman, was

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Speaker 1: involved in an accident twenty twelve where the other driver

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Speaker 1: claims she ran a red light, driving over sixty five

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Speaker 1: in a forty mph zone and plowed into the back

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Speaker 1: of his car. The driver passed away later from ill health,

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Speaker 1: but the insurance report includes his detailed description of the crash. Now,

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Speaker 1: in that case, we know that insurance paid out one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in a settlement with Grossman. She was

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Speaker 1: injured in that too, So what if anything, do we

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Speaker 1: know about her history, Raykipudo.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dancy, she's not a good driver, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can only speculate that that's connected to this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know for shirt one. It seems to be

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Speaker 4: that the writing was on the wall for miss Grossman,

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Speaker 4: and she had plenty of opportunity to fix some of

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Speaker 4: the issues that she had her life, but you know,

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Speaker 4: she didn't.

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Speaker 8: And here we are.

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Speaker 4: This tragedy was avoidable. There was something that shouldn't have happened,

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Speaker 4: and now this family is going to be living with

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Speaker 4: us for the rest of her horizon. This Glosman's life

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Speaker 4: is done too. Pretty much, her reputation is gone.

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Speaker 1: I'm really more worried about the two dead boys than

579
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Speaker 1: anybody's reputation, Doctor Angela Arnold. What about the people surrounding her?

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Speaker 1: I mean, according to a Daily Mail report, quote she's

581
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Speaker 1: a reckless driver. The socialite charge with killing two young

582
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Speaker 1: boys in Dui hit and run previously totaled another driver's

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Speaker 1: car after quote speeding through a red light, and then

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Speaker 1: she sued him even though she ran into the back.

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Speaker 2: Of his car.

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Speaker 12: You know, Nancy, I don't believe that they should be

587
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Speaker 12: calling her a socialite. I think that they should be

588
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Speaker 12: calling her a sociopath. That is what this woman is

589
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Speaker 12: at the core of who she is. She is a sociopath.

590
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Speaker 12: Why we have to be describing this woman who has

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Speaker 12: hit and killed two children and has absolutely no remorse.

592
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Speaker 12: Instead of a social socialite, we should be calling her

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Speaker 12: a sociopath today because she's wondering.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cheryl McCollum, director of Mad Georgia mother's against

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Speaker 1: junk driving. Everybody around her, I mean, are they enabling

596
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Speaker 1: her drinking and driving way in nanty.

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Speaker 9: I think the most important thing is forget everybody around her.

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Speaker 4: This is solely on her.

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Speaker 9: She did this, This is nothing new behavior. She chose

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Speaker 9: to drink, she chose to drive, She chose to try

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Speaker 9: to cover it up. She chose to try to hide

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Speaker 9: her face. Now she had chosen not to reach out

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Speaker 9: to the family and apologize. She has chosen to do

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Speaker 9: all of these things that show exactly who she is.

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Speaker 9: And I think that last statement was pen on accurate.

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Speaker 1: She is a social path demands from behind bars, A

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Speaker 1: wealthy socialite who runs down two little brothers embracing her

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Speaker 1: mercedes after a boozy lunch, makes new demands from behind bars.

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Speaker 1: What's next? Two boys are dead and you're whining.

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Speaker 17: The venn I Superior Court judge denied Grossman's bid to

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Speaker 17: move the trial. Grossman's civil attorneys argued extensive negative publicity

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Speaker 17: surrounding the accident and legal proceedings would inevitably buy us

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Speaker 17: local jurors against her, making a fair trial impossible. In

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Speaker 17: La County, Judge Huey Cotton acknowledged that Grossman had been

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Speaker 17: portrayed unfavorably on social media and drew attention from the press,

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Speaker 17: but he agreed with the Iskandors attorneys that the news

617
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Speaker 17: coverage mostly reported the facts rather than expressing outrage. Grossman's

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Speaker 17: team argued a venues such as Sulaire County in central

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Speaker 17: California would provide a jury pool less prejudiced against their client,

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Speaker 17: but the judge did not agree, saying the Los Angeles

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Speaker 17: Superior Court handles high profile cases on a regular basis

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Speaker 17: and expressed confidence that the court and attorneys on both

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Speaker 17: sides will be able to ferret out prejudice in the

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Speaker 17: jury pool and seat an impartial jury. That left one

625
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Speaker 17: important question remaining. Will the Iskander attorneys be allowed to

626
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Speaker 17: depose Grossman's husband a second time and her daughter Alexis

627
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Speaker 17: for the first time? And that answer is yes. A

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Speaker 17: judge ruled that Grossman Burne Foundation co founder Rebecca Grossman

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Speaker 17: cannot prevent attorneys from deposing her husband a second time

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Speaker 17: and her daughter in a civil suit filed by the

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Speaker 17: Iskander family. That trial is set to begin in February.

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Speaker 17: After Grossman was granted a request for a new date,

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Speaker 17: it was scheduled to start January. Fifth Judge Huey Pacotton

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Speaker 17: rejected arguments by Grossman's attorneys that the one previous deposition

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Speaker 17: taken of the philanthropist's husband, doctor Peter gross by the

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Speaker 17: plaintiff's attorneys, was enough, adding that deposing daughter Alexis Grossman,

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Speaker 17: sixteen at the time of the crash would further traumatize

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Speaker 17: the young woman already suffering from PTSD. The judge countered

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Speaker 17: that Alexis, now twenty one, was able to testify on

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Speaker 17: her mother's behalf at the criminal trial, and she was

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Speaker 17: one of the first people on the scene after the crash.

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Speaker 17: The judge ruled the disability does not disqualify her from

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Speaker 17: appearing at deposition. The judge also ruled husband Peter Grossman

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Speaker 17: may have relevant information. Peter Grossman is a defendant in

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Speaker 17: the suit on grounds he allegedly granted permissive use to

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Speaker 17: his wife to drive the vehicle use in the accident

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Speaker 17: included in the deposition motion is a request by the

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Speaker 17: iskanders to question the renowned plastic surgeon about the transferred

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Speaker 17: title to the couple's sprawling, twelve bathroom, thirteen thousand square

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Speaker 17: foot hilltop mansion to a mystery trust and lawyer. It's

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Speaker 17: now on sale for thirteen monero point five million, according

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Speaker 17: to court documents, with convicted child killer Rebecca Grossman now

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Speaker 17: being accused of fraudulently hiding assets ahead of the wrongful

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Speaker 17: death trial. They say Peter Grossman has first hand knowledge

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Speaker 17: of Rebecca's finances. The iskandor's attorney says the giant property

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Speaker 17: is an asset subject to collection against Rebecca Grossman.

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Speaker 1: As always, our prayers with the victim's family at this

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Speaker 1: hour and we wait as justice and false good Night friend,