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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Scott Channing our two Sean Hannity Show,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, if you want

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eight days away until election Day, only

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Speaker 1: fifty nine days away from early voting beginning in the

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Speaker 1: Great State of Pennsylvania. Later on, Dave McCormick will join us.

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Speaker 1: He is the Republican senatorial candidate from the Great State

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We'll get to all

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Speaker 1: of that. Peter Navarro has a new book out. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you about that. We're going to put

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Speaker 1: it up on Hannity dot Comments, on Amazon dot com,

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Speaker 1: bookstores around the country. But you know, he spent two

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Speaker 1: months in prison and frankly, he had nothing, no reason

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Speaker 1: to be there. Last night, President Trump calling on Democrats

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Speaker 1: to stop the weaponization of our justice system and labeling

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Speaker 1: people an enemy of democracy. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 2: And we must not criminalize dissent or demonize political disagreement,

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Speaker 2: which is what's been happening in our country lately at

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Speaker 1: In that spirit, the.

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party should immediately stop weaponizing the justice system and

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Speaker 2: labeling their political opponent as an enemy of democracy, especially

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Speaker 2: since that is not true. In fact, I am the

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Speaker 2: one saving democracy for the people of our.

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Speaker 1: Contract, and he is indeed anyway, Peter Navarro joins us.

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Speaker 1: He has a new book out. It's called The New

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Speaker 1: Maga Deal, The Official Deplorables Guide to Donald Trump's twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four policy Platform, and it's on Hannity dot com,

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Speaker 1: Amazon dot com now bookstores around the country. Peter, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the program. And on a personal level, I've

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Speaker 1: always been very fond of you. I've known you for

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Speaker 1: was going on with you. It broke my heart to

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Speaker 1: been there for how many months now, four months now,

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Speaker 1: and now you're finally released, and I want to talk

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Speaker 1: go through that. I really mean that with all my heart.

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Speaker 3: Jod I consider your brother in arms man. We've gone

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Speaker 3: through a lot. When I was in with the Boss

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Speaker 3: for four years and the administration, our past would frequently cross.

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Speaker 3: I remember a fond night when we had to do

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Speaker 3: the convention for twenty twenty at the lawn of the

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Speaker 3: White House. If you remember that with the screens, I

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 1: I was up on a platform and you were right

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Speaker 1: below me. I do remember.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but look, I want your listeners to understand

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Speaker 3: one thing. I'm fine, we're soldiers. I took a figure

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Speaker 3: other day. The theme of my speech at the convention

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Speaker 3: And what I meant by that, Sean, is that my

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Speaker 3: our government, their government will control us. And I went

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Speaker 3: through how the legislative, executive, and judicial branches, all involving

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Speaker 3: Democrats weaponizing their powers, put me in prison. It was

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Speaker 3: the House j six Committee and a Democrat majority holding

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Speaker 3: constitutional separation of powers. Democrats did that. It was the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Attorney General Merritt Garland who indicted and prosecuted me

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Speaker 3: If Congress comes to Colin with a subpoena for a

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Speaker 3: And let's not forget Eric Holder and more recently Biorcis being.

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Speaker 1: He had to add to the les Lowist Learner. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And then and then the judges, I mean, Sean, with

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Speaker 1: you explained what the principle of executive privilege meant, why

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Speaker 1: But you did it anyway. And you know, I always

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the principle of the matter. And

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Speaker 3: you're back our first President George Washington, when the Jay

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Speaker 3: treaty got negotiated, he got subpoenaed by Congress, and he

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Speaker 3: And that was John. That was when this doctrine of

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Speaker 3: that's an illegal, improper subpoenia. You don't have the authority.

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Speaker 3: I'm a hold of my ground and I am the

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Speaker 3: it's going to the Supreme Court. That's where I said

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Speaker 1: But Peter, look at what we've now learned. They destroyed

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Speaker 1: different narrative. And you spent four months in prison over this.

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Speaker 1: It's unreal to me. This is not the US that

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Speaker 3: You see what they're doing Tolston Journal report in Russia.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I got the same treatment. Okay, communist

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Speaker 3: Sean for the future that the Supreme Court say that

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Speaker 3: but look if John at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: It'll be worth it. And even if I lose. Look,

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Speaker 3: this is what we do. We stand up for principal Trump.

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Speaker 3: People do not bend, We don't break. And when you

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Speaker 3: know what right, let me ask you this bullet. You know,

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Speaker 3: the least I could do is go to prison for principle.

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Speaker 1: All right? Quick break more with our friend Peter and THEVA,

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Speaker 1: former director of US Office of Trade and Manufacturing. His

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Speaker 1: The Unofficial Deplorables Guide to Donald Trump's twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Tell us the prison you

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Speaker 1: were in. Tell us what it was like, how did

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Speaker 1: the other prisoners react to you, and what's it like

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Speaker 1: to have your freedom ripped away from you?

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Speaker 3: Well? Let me, yeah, what kept me going in prison

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Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. You mentioned the New Maga

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Speaker 3: getting printed up. And let me just say this, Well,

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Speaker 3: that is chaos personified. I think ultimately what we're going

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Speaker 3: because the Biden administration is not enforcing the first step back.

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Speaker 3: Think about that. These guys go to prison for breaking

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Speaker 3: should be because the Bureau of Prisons in the Biden

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Speaker 3: administration is breaking the law. And if I can get

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Speaker 3: a little love, you're listening, Jim Jordan, Comer Gates is

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Speaker 3: helping Biggs. I can blow up a five billion dollar

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Speaker 1: It's this well, Jim Jordan will take your call. I

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Speaker 1: know that for a fact, he absolutely would take your call. Continue.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Pete Navarro is with us and he just got out

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Speaker 1: of prison, former director of the US Office of Trade

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Speaker 1: and Manufacturing under Donald Trump, and out of prison, he's

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Speaker 1: written a new book. It's called The New Magga Deal,

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Speaker 1: The Unofficial Deplorable's Guide to Donald Trump's twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: policy Platform. I'm so sorry, and I mean this sincerely

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Speaker 1: that you had to go through that. I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it. It shouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask a final question. You knew, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure your lawyers told you that if you would have

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Speaker 1: only gone into the JA six committee and pled the fifth,

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Speaker 1: you would have walked out and you would have walked free.

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Speaker 1: You did not have to do this, but you thought

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Speaker 1: the principle was too important. Tell me about why, because

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Speaker 1: because I'm trying to put myself in your shoes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say, you know what, screw it, I'll just

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Speaker 1: plead the fifth. What do I care because I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you anyway. You're not forced to, you're not compelled

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Speaker 1: to tell them. And if you did just that, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone to prison, and you wouldn't have had

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Speaker 1: to experience it, but you felt the principle of executive

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Speaker 1: privilege was that important that you were willing to do it.

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Speaker 1: That shows me, number one, the type of person you are.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not as strong as you. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I would have just looked at them and said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not letting you put me in

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Speaker 1: that position. But you felt strongly about it, and I admire.

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Speaker 1: I admire the fact you stood on principle. But I

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Speaker 1: wonder you ever think at any point I should have

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Speaker 1: just pled the fifth and gotten out of there.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not for a second. Show I don't regret

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Speaker 3: a thing. Here's the thing. The difference between me and

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Speaker 3: probably everybody else who got a subpoena for J six

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Speaker 3: was my lived experience in the White House, and my look.

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Speaker 3: I saw my colleagues, Kelly and Conway, down Thegan, Porter, Hope, Hicks,

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Speaker 3: all these people were subpoenaed over these impeachment things, right,

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Speaker 3: and they held firm and more importantly, the pat sippoloona

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Speaker 3: White House legal counsel, issued letters about the importance of

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Speaker 3: testimony immunion and Department of Justice policy. And I read

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Speaker 3: all that stuff and for me in my day DNA

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Speaker 3: that when Congress comes to call them, you got to

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Speaker 3: defend the constitution. So when I saw to inform that

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Speaker 3: Jay six committee, Okay, and I had talks. I don't

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Speaker 3: like to talk much about talks with the Boss, but

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Speaker 3: we had one, and it was it's in the public

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Speaker 3: record now about these subpoenas. And he and I both

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Speaker 3: knew we could see that the only reason they were

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Speaker 3: doing that was not to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: what happened, but to put Donald Trump in prison and

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Speaker 3: keep him out of the White House. And I wasn't

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Speaker 3: going to participate in that. I said from the outset, John,

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Speaker 3: I said, look, the President has invoked the privilege. That's

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Speaker 3: a fact, not mine the way, that's the law. And

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Speaker 3: if you want me to test, which I would be

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Speaker 3: happy to do, just go and ask the President to

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Speaker 3: waive the privilege. Now here's the thing, Sean. They never

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Speaker 3: did that.

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Speaker 1: No, they never did.

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Speaker 3: Well call to the president because the irony in all

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Speaker 3: of this. I would have been one of one of

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Speaker 3: the JA six people on the stand who would have

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Speaker 3: been exculpatory. I mean I wrote about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there were a lot of people that would have

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Speaker 1: been exculpatory. The people that would have testified that Frum

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Speaker 1: called up the guard and Muriel Bowser would have been

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Speaker 1: you know, it would have proven that. Well. Why did she,

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Speaker 1: in writing deny the troops. Why did Nancy Pelosi and

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer not not call up troops? Even NBC reported

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Speaker 1: there was actionable intelligence in the days leading up to this.

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Speaker 1: Why was the Capitol Police chief son I brought in?

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Speaker 1: But you know, Peter, I'm glad you're out. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it was really unpleasant. I do admire the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're a man of principle. I really do. I really

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Speaker 1: urge people to get a copy of your book. We're

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Speaker 1: going to put it on my website, Hannity dot Comments

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Speaker 1: on Amazon dot com. It's in bookstores around the country.

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Speaker 1: It's called The New Maggot Deal. The Unofficial Deplorables Guide

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's twenty twenty four policy platform. I know

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Speaker 1: I kept you a lot longer than I thought I would,

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Speaker 1: but I am an I do appreciate your time I've

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Speaker 1: known you. I appreciate our friendship, and I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: home free. And my best to you and your fiance

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Speaker 1: and your new life and your new lease on life,

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Speaker 1: and I wish you the best.

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Speaker 3: All right, my brother, you keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: You're the best at it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'm trying though. I'm trying hard.

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Speaker 1: I promised, Peter. Thank you, my friend. Eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: four one Sean. This can't happen in our country. It

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Speaker 1: just can't. But it's happening. This is what the weaponization

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Speaker 1: of justice is