1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: CAUs Media. You're listening to the Away Days podcast on 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the ground Outside, reporting from the underbelly with me Jake Hanrahan. 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: To watch Awaydays documentaries, go to YouTube dot com slash 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: at Away Days TV. This is Part one, No Rules 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Is No Rules, Episode four. This podcast is a production 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: of h Leven Studio and Call his Own Media. Since 7 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: we first met Joey in episode one when he thought 8 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: bash in Hastings, he's been having a bit of a 9 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: hard time getting fights. He tried to sign up to 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: go at it in just about every fight club or 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: bernacle event there is, but he's been having no luck. 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: A decent fighter and completely dedicated to violence and raising 13 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: his own profile in the underground. Still though, something wasn't 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: hitting personally. I think it might be his flamboyant character 15 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: and attitude. As I've mentioned before, Joey is really quite 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: different from most of the clandestine fighters out there. He's 17 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: loud as fuck, he dies his beard, he wears Neon colors, 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: and lives with his heart on his sleeve at all times. 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Joey is about as stoic as a Jerry Springer contestant. 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: He cannot help but shout loudly about what he thinks 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: and who he is. Joey, whether you like him or not, 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: is a one of one. I think it's great. However, 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm unsure the scene as a whole is quite ready 24 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: for someone like him. Generally, there's a hardcore, tough guy 25 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: element to underground fight clubs, as you can obviously imagine 26 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Joey running in with his Neon pink trainers and three 27 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: different haircuts, all bleached ye different ways. 28 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't quite fit the mold. 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: The whole point of clandestine fighting, though, is that it's 30 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: a counterculture outside of society. Anyone taking part has to 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: exit from the norm and prepare for a wild West 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: in every way possible, even if you're just in attendance watching. 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: There's one King of the Streets video, for example, where 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: someone in the crowd grabs onto a fighter through a 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: corrugated fence, literally trying to limit his movement so his 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: opponent can get the upper hand. God knows what he 37 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: was thinking, but let it be known that no rules 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: only applies to what's happening inside the fight. Everyone else 39 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: better behave. In the video, the mysterious boss Man of 40 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Cots instantly spots the grabbing and leaps over the fence 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: like a gazelle. Several other Hype crew members follow him 42 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: and a fight breaks out in the crowd. The edit 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: then cuts to a be right back technical difficulties had 44 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: for a second before the fight is back on. I 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: have it on good authority from someone who was there 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: that day that the lad who grabbed the fire to 47 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: got beaten up, knocked out, and dragged out of the venue. 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: I was told he's banned for life from all COTS events. 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: There's even a rumor he was kicked out of the 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: hooligan firm he was a part of for embarrassing everybody 51 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: involved with his antics. No rules is not a game, 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: it's not a sport. That's just one specific example that 53 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: was caught on video. There were many more that are 54 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: yet to be seen, like when the police raided a 55 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: COTS fight and hundreds of people inside had to escape 56 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: and attempted to run away before the cops arrested them, 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: or when fights broke out between rival hooligan firms close 58 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: to the event. So Joey spent months trying to fight 59 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: people on the concrete. Every so often he'd have an 60 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: opponent ready, only for them to drop out at the 61 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: last minute. If it wasn't that it was peral health 62 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: issues of his own. I won't go into too much 63 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: detail other than what Joey has already said publicly, but 64 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: basically he has a fairly serious heart condition that flared 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: up recently, putting a pause on his training on fighting, down, 66 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: out and unwell. I could since Joey was becoming depressed. 67 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: He called me up for no real reason, talking about 68 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: how his fights had fallen apart, how he needs to 69 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: get operated on, how he's basically sick of sitting around. 70 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: He'd be sat at home in Wales with his mind 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: ticking over double time. Fighting men are not attuned to 72 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: bed rest. It's not in their DNA, it's not in 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: their makeup. They feel lethargic, puffy and even out of control. 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: The discipline of the gym, the ring and the concrete 75 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: is where they most feel relaxed. One time I saw 76 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: on Joey's Instagram stories that he was taking a rest 77 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: from training for a bit due to injury, but within 78 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: hours he posted the story of him jogging topless in 79 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the moors whilst eating a full red onion raw like 80 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: an apple. Why I don't know, but that's what he 81 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: was up to. That's the kind of person he is. 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Trying to get Joey to rest for anything is obviously 83 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: going to be very difficult, as you can imagine. When 84 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: Joey got the confirmation he'd be fighting on King of 85 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: the Streets, he was over the moon. He went instantly 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: from the sofa to the tarmac, hitting weights, hitting the bags, 87 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: and consuming as many steroids as possible. After a few weeks, 88 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Joey is ready. He's even asked to Cott's bosses if 89 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I'd be allowed to come and film his fight, but 90 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: they said no security issues. 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Instead, I'm headed out to Spain to meet Joey a 93 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: few days before the fight. I won't get to see it, 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: but i'll see him before and after I land in Spain. 95 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: We'll keep the city undisclosed, but it's busy, it's hot, 96 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: and the traffic is bonkers. 97 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Yesterday he was. 98 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Flown out by Hype crew, all expenses paid, and he's 99 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: currently held up in a hotel on the outskirts of 100 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: the city. The fight is in twenty four hours. There's 101 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: a rumor going around that the location for this event 102 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: will be the most extravagant in the history of cots. 103 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Generally the fights are held in warehouses or empty multi 104 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: story car parks, but now and then a wildcard location 105 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: is used for the fights. One time they held an 106 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: event in an ice rink with the floor covered. Another 107 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: on top of a roof of a very high building. 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: It's like Tekan. The one that's planned for Spain is 109 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: apparently unlike anything else. A cool Joey. He's full of 110 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: energy as usual. He tells me to come through. So 111 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: we're hopping a taxi and head out to meet him 112 00:06:45,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: and his mate there with his top off mate fucking 113 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: size on it. Man, Are you feeling top Yeah, you're 114 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: looking happy you made it. 115 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: Man. 116 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Joey is easily half a stone heavier than when i'd 117 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: last seen him. He's put on a ton of muscle. 118 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: He's got his shirt off and his hair slipped back, 119 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: and he's practically vibrating on the spot. He's just throwing 120 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: out sentences without me even asking anything. In the midst 121 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: of this madness, he starts to explain how he finally 122 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: got onto cops. 123 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: Let's fight. 124 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: So I just thought, yeah, spoke to some boy. 125 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: It's a polished boy who fought with them sucking the 126 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: month ago. 127 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: And then yeah, he was speaking to. 128 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: Me, so I just fucking yeah, he said, I was 129 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: trying to do this, and then he give. 130 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: Me the contact. 131 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: And after all Joey's efforts to get the tension of 132 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Hype Crew and King of the Streets, all it took 133 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: in the end was messaging a previous fighter who was friendly, 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: As Joey said, some Polish lad had fought on Cots before, 135 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: gave him the contact for the right people. He sent 136 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: them footage of his previous fights and they said, yep, okay, 137 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: you can fight at Cotts. Joey will be fighting Alex, 138 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: a man we spoke about briefly. 139 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: In episode one. He's the guy who got half. 140 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: His ear bitten off by Bash and continued to fight 141 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: an even win by a brutal double eye gouch. Alex 142 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: is a serious fighter with a lot more experience than Joey. Joey, 143 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: though genuinely does not seem anything but excited. No nerves, 144 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: just excitement. We walked through a feel of Dusty baron 145 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Land as he sporadically jumps about whooping and shadow boxing. 146 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: He's like a kid in a sweet shop. Visualized in 147 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: The Winner, He's. 148 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: Like God looking down at me telling me you're this 149 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: is like, this is like a big thinking. This is 150 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: what you've been aiming for thoughn't it? What is it 151 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: about the king King of the streets? 152 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: Like? Mate, you want to be honest. 153 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: The scenery and now I think, but the scenery and 154 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: all that fucking it's like a movie and every clip 155 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: they have on YouTube, but it's like a fucking this 156 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: is like a film for hour long, like fifty minutes long, 157 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: and I just will fuck out And he looks nastiest 158 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: factor on him. What's the worst thing that can happen? 159 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 5: Obviously, yes, a lot of things, but you know. 160 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Certain men don't think like you don't think that. Whilst Joey, 161 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: as you can hear, is a bit of a madman 162 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: in person, there's something almost endearing about him. He's a 163 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: young man from South Wales where there is honestly not 164 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: much opportunity. The idea that he'll soon be taking part 165 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: in the world's most serious underground fight club is exhilarating 166 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: for him. I hate it all love it. This is 167 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the biggest prospect of Joey's life so far. It means 168 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot to him. 169 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for any did I have, but you know, 170 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: you've got to push yourself. I can't keep running around 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: thinking I can do anything. 172 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I gotta take take it to day. 173 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for that like and I'm going on 174 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: to this Pimuni thesty practice. 175 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: Nothing more harder or better, is it? 176 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 177 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: You're not feel any nerves, that's all. No, I don't 178 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: like that's what I want to take. 179 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 180 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: I don't see I'm not a bad person, you know. 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: What I mean. I'm doing this out of what I 182 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: want to do. 183 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm practicing. I'm fucking getting more Bayler and I just 184 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: want to swell. I obviously want to smack some on 185 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: them too, but you know that's their fault anyways. 186 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: They want to do it as well. 187 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: So if you you know, you both want to be 188 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: met and let's go for it. 189 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: But no, I don't get wordied or shadow new this 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: WHAT'SU all? 191 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: That? 192 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Something that often comes up when I tell people I've 193 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: been filming underground no rules fight clubs like the one 194 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Joey's about to take part in, is the idea that 195 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: everyone involved must be some kind of lunatic. Their lives 196 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: must have been hard, they're probably nasty pieces of work. 197 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. That's definitely true for some fighters. But 198 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: most of the people I've met in the two years 199 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: i've been working on my no Rules projects are totally normal. 200 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Other than the fighting, most of them are really nice. 201 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Even Joey, for example, is a family man who's very 202 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: close with his mom and dad. Still it's something he 203 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: talks about often. 204 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: I haven't been through nothing to fucking get myself that way. 205 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm just happy. 206 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. A lot of people are like. 207 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh, you must have something wrong with you, there must 208 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: be something in your childhood. 209 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah? Fuck o? 210 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: But I got raised fucking perfect on my parents, like 211 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: literally either the best ever ever. I had everything I 212 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: ever wanted, Catholic primary school, Catholic fucking com school. You know, 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: I weren't allowed without late at night, I went fucking 214 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: and I never got into no. 215 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: Trouble and that. So I don't know. 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: Maybe un less it's because I'm at this age so 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: I can of my parents can't tell me. 218 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you just like fighting. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, 219 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: what have you what your mom and dad said about it? 220 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: Did I know? 221 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: My mom doesn't know about it. 223 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: You don't know about. 224 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 6: This again, Like, but my dad's like I told him, 225 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 6: he goes fucking hell, Joe because not much I can 226 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 6: say about it anymore. 227 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: You know you wanted to do it, I. 228 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 6: Can't tell you anymore. 229 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's fubby. It's why I'm doing it as well, 230 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: because if I'm able to do stuff that without. 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: The thing with cots is it's more than just the fighting. 232 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: The whole thing is an experience, a counterculture, a door 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: into a different world that is closed for ninety nine 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: percent of the population anywhere. For Joey, he's not only 235 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: fighting on a massive platform. He's been flown out to 236 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: somewhere new, He gets paid to fight, and he gets 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: treated differently to what he would back home. I think 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: this is a big appeal for many fighters involved in 239 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: the counterculture of no rules clandestine fighting. 240 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 6: I always always wanted to get flew out to a 241 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 6: different country. 242 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 5: Not obvious the UK and fucking another fight teram and 243 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 5: that does a manner if it was free, or if 244 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: it was fucking tank brand or fucking million pons Like, no, 245 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: it doesn't make a difference doing it. 246 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: You know you have money back to spend this gone 247 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: doing it something you have the memory of it all? 248 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: So many is and match, I guess there's a free 249 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 6: night out with a missus and the fucking yeah. Well 250 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: ever else, like do. 251 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: You remember like do you remember like your first fight 252 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: street fight? 253 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my first. 254 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 6: Street fight though, so you must have been when I 255 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 6: was younger, and that's when obviously just sticking up for 256 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 6: my brother because people used to you know, used to 257 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 6: get a little bit of a little idiot and that 258 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 6: he was a little bit you know, he's getting trouble, Like, 259 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 6: so I's brother's I stick up for him and yeah, 260 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 6: yeah remember that. It was kind of always just one 261 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: massive bang and they'd down out. 262 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: Wow, this is mad. 263 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 6: So, I mean I never thought anything from it. I 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 6: always thought I was tough until I've done my first 265 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 6: ever fight boxing face, and then I was at all. 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: I leave Joey to shadow box in the dust and concrete, 267 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: preparing for his fight tomorrow. Now I'm not allowed to 268 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: see the fight in person, but I can watch it 269 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: in real time. Cotts has a live pay per view 270 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: link on their website. So I sit back, keep my 271 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: Airbnb and get ready to see if Joey has what 272 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: it takes to be part of King of the Street's history. 273 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I stay glued to my laptop for the countdown the 274 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: pay per view starts. The rumors are true. This is 275 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: by far the most extravagant Cott's location to date. They're 276 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: fighting in a bull ring. They've even got someone dressed 277 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: up as a matador to lead the event. It's incredible. 278 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: The fighters are preparing in the paddocks where the bull 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: would go. Old broken wooden gates separate the fighters from 280 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the hard, dusty floor of the bull ring. A chain 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: is unlatched on the paddock gate each end, and two 282 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: fighters emerge. Joey and Alex are up. Joey raises his 283 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: hand to the sky and Alex moves forward confidently. His 284 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: long hair is tied in a bun. He's covered in tattoos, bearded, tall, 285 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: and stocky. He looks ready but relaxed. Joey is fully 286 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: dialed in. You can tell he's rare in to go. 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: The two fighters meet in the middle and of the 288 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: last few steps, Joey randomly breaks out into a short 289 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: sprint towards Alex before leap into the air and throwing 290 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: a short fly kick. Alex shifts out the way, but 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: it catches him in the hip. Looks painful. Joey lunges 292 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: for him and throws two badly timed haymakers. They miss 293 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: thrown into mid air. The third he throws connects with 294 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: the side of Alex's head. He looks a bit flustered, 295 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: but he's fine. Alex grapples with Joey. Joey shifts his weight, 296 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: throws ahead, but pulls Alex downward, throws a knee into 297 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: his face. Alex looks dazed. Joey goes from again, with 298 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: no guard whatsoever. He's like a wild animal. Alex straightens 299 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: up and throws a perfectly timed left hook into Joey's jaw. 300 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Joey goes down heavy. He hits the dirt, all eighty 301 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: one kilos of him. The dust rises. I wonder is 302 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: he done for. 303 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: Nope. 304 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Within less than a second, Joey leaps back up onto 305 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: his feet. Alex tries to boot him but misses. The 306 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: two circle each other for a second. Alex drops another 307 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: stiff left hook into Joey's chin. This time, Joey just grins, 308 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: flashing the white of his gum shield. Joey jabs Alex 309 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: in the face and the two grapple. Alex tries to 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: lift Joey up but fails. The two are locked together, 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: now on the floor in the dirt. Joey is choking 312 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Alex out. The two scuffle for a while on their 313 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: knees till Alex lifts Joey, throws. 314 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: Him over and lands on top of him. 315 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I can't see how Joey can get out of this one, 316 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: but he manages to hold on headlocking Alex by the neck. 317 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: The two are a tangle of bloody limbs and sweat. 318 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Dirt sticks to them as they do battle on the ground, 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: face pushed against face, Both are in a perfect position 320 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: to bite the other, but they don't. There's some unspoken 321 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: understanding in this fight, as that are with many a 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: COT's just because you can do whatever you want in 323 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: no rules. 324 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you have to. 325 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Alex frees himself from Joey's grip and is now kneeled 326 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: over him. He starts punching Joey in the face, but 327 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: somehow Joey manages to spin. 328 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Around and stand up. 329 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: The two men part for a few seconds. Both are 330 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: visibly exhausted. They pant hard and take a few steps 331 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to catch their breath. The pair step forward, both 332 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: throwing a white cross at the same time. Both fighters 333 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: land the punch into each other's head. The next snap 334 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: back for a second and blood is visible on both. 335 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: They then swing wild at each other until Alex drops 336 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: to the ground from pure exhaustion. Joey jumps on top 337 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: of him and grabs his hair, pounding his fists into 338 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: Alex's face and head. Alex covers up and lets out 339 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: a growl as Joey continues to rain down fists. Wow, 340 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Alex is no longer fighting back. The boss man at 341 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Cots moves in and pulls Joey off of him. I 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: can't believe it. Joey has won the fight. His hand 343 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: is held up in the air and all the other 344 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: fighters cheer him on from the stands of the Matador Stadium. 345 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: It's just what Joey wanted. 346 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 347 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Alex is back up on his feet, beaten, blooded but 348 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: generally okay, so clapping. The two men embrace in a 349 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: show of good sportsmanship, and that led back to the 350 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: Padducks to be seen to by a makeshift medical team. 351 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: It was a brawl, very scrappy, but honestly, what an 352 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: entertaining fight That was to watch. Later that day, I 353 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: meet Joey in another dusty field nearby. You do manuck, 354 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: congrats man amazing? 355 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: Right, all right, you look all right, broke the nose. 356 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: Look what did you call your parents? 357 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Joy? 358 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 6: Only we need to ring the most season? 359 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: My parents and brother what they say? 360 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were loving it, having a drink at the moment, 361 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: and then I wrung and he's like, yeah, well done, 362 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 4: you know, he fucking yeah, we just have this family 363 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: thing going on in it, like, you know, because my 364 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 4: grandpa alviously passed away when I was younger, and I 365 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: was my dad's dad, and I was the last fucking 366 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: feeling he had, and there because everything they've done for 367 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: me and bloody, but I just fucking makes such a 368 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 4: feeling for me, and yeah, that's all I need. You know, 369 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 4: some people, obviously, like you say, some fighters are fucking 370 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: nats in and out of jail, fucking bad people. 371 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 6: But then you know, some just do it for the 372 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: fucking all hard and spills. 373 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: It's proud, you know, he is, Like he said it 374 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: fucking two years ago. 375 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 6: He always said, you'll never be as mad as me. 376 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: Joe I was fucking mad he was. 377 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, two years since now and then he said, right, yeah, 378 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 6: I'm just letting you know, joe you can calm down. 379 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I was like, Dad, that's the best man alive. Never 380 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: have it, Like, yeah, I'm over the moon. 381 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: Like to be honest, I can. I can see it 382 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: looks so happy. So Joey won and he will go 383 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: on to fight more in the underground scene, he's happy. 384 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm not happy though, not with Joey, but with access. 385 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: I was so close to King of the Streets, yet 386 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: so far I felt as if I'd failed. Rarely have 387 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I tried to get access to a story and not 388 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: managed it. But as I said earlier in the series, 389 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: where there's a will, there is a way. What I 390 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned so far in the Away Days podcast because 391 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: it will be covered thoroughly in the novels documentary I'm 392 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: making is my work filming with a highly respected cotsfighter 393 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: that you'll see in the film when it's released. He'll 394 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: be a main feature of the documentary, which will eventually 395 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: be published at YouTube dot com slash at Away Days TV. 396 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe. If you can't find it that way, 397 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: just search Await Days Jake Hanrahan in YouTube. Now this 398 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: cotsfighter was wary of me for a while because I'm 399 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: a journalist, but eventually he began to understand the scope 400 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: of my film and he started to help me with access, 401 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: introducing me to the right people. To cut a long 402 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: story short, I got a call a few weeks after 403 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: I'd returned from Spain. Turns out, after two years traveling 404 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: back and forth to various no rules fight clubs across Europe, 405 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: I'd finally been granted permission to come and film at 406 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: King of the Streets, the place that started it all. 407 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: They trusted that my intentions were good and that I 408 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: was not fucking around or trying to do some kind 409 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: of expose on them. People have tried in the past 410 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: to do that, mostly due to the KOTS a political rule. 411 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: Basically anyone from any political background can fight at King 412 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: of the Streets. Due to this, they have been surprised 413 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: neo Nazi fighters brawling at KOTS. A few disingenuous mainstream 414 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: reporters decided to single that out and act as if 415 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: KOTS is some kind of far right training ground That 416 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: is simply not true. COTS has fighters from all different backgrounds, 417 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: including several anti fascist hooligans, some of which have literally 418 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: screamed anti far at the top of their lungs after winning. 419 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: There are dozens of fighters from all different racial and 420 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: religious backgrounds. Some of the main heads in Hype Crew 421 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: even are black and Arab. So for Cots to be 422 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: a white supremacist breeding ground, they're after a bad start. Now, 423 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: sure would the environment of Cots scare away your average 424 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: liberal or conservative mainstream reporter and make them very upset 425 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: due to what they're seeing? Yes, but what wouldn't These days? 426 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: Basically everyone from far left to far right and back 427 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: again confers, I I at Coots if they've got the 428 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: metal to do so. Politics at the fight club is 429 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: simply irrelevant. Now. You might not like that, but I 430 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: dare say the people at the fight clubs don't care. 431 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: So King of the Streets, I jumped on a plane 432 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: and headed out to an undisclosed country in Europe. Been 433 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: trying to get access to Kotts for a very long time, 434 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't even know if I'd be allowed in 435 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: till the very second I was through the door. Even then, 436 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: it was just to meet the boss man and hear 437 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: what he had to say. If he didn't like what 438 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I had to say, he would have kicked me out 439 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: there and then at the location, a warehouse, I was 440 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: thoroughly searched and briefly interrogated. Once the bossman had decided 441 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: I am who I said I am, and I'm trying 442 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: to film a genuine documentary about this wild and counter 443 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: culture had created, he decided I was okay. 444 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: Then that was it. Off we went. 445 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: We were free to film whatever we wanted as the 446 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: fights took place. Now, due to the nature of the 447 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: agreements we have for the access, I'm not going to 448 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: go into detail here about the event. You will see 449 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: it all though, when a documentary is released. What I 450 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: can say though, is that the atmosphere at Coutts was 451 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: unlike anything I've experienced in my ten plus years as 452 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: a journalist. They are the most notorious fight club for 453 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: a reason. So this first part of the Away Days podcast, 454 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: there's been a journey through recreational ultra violence on which 455 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: an entire counterculture is growing rapidly. I've tried to be 456 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: as frank and as open as possible. Await Days is 457 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart. I want to make 458 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: journalism that has none of the edges rounded smooth. After 459 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: all of this, you might think that no rules under 460 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: ground fighting is horrible, brutal or barbaric. Even most people do, 461 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: but that's almost the point of it. It is not 462 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: for everyone. It's actually barely for anyone at all. Even 463 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: most professional fighters. 464 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: Wouldn't get involved. 465 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: That's completely understandable. Most people don't want to risk having 466 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: their heads smashed off of a concrete floor, or their 467 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: eye gouged out, or their skin bitting off. I certainly 468 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: would not. That is totally normal. One thing, though, that 469 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I often see brought up in regards to no rules 470 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: fighting is the morality of it. This, I think is 471 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting elements of the scene. People 472 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: who are outraged by it can simply look away, but 473 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: they won't. Two people fighting in private, hidden from the 474 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: rest of the world is no one's business but their own. 475 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: And yet still the biggest detractors of no rules want 476 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: to act as. 477 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: If they are above the violence. They're not. No one is. 478 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: Violence is part of our DNA. 479 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: It is all around us, but it's been sanitized and 480 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: repackaged to seem acceptable. If the quote unquote correct people 481 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: are doing it now. I don't want to come across 482 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: as some boring political philosopher, But I do think there's 483 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: a point to be made. 484 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: Put it this way, if. 485 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: You have ever cheered on a politician, you have almost 486 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: definitely promoted, whether you liked it or not, extreme violence 487 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: from left to right. Politicians are involved in dropping bombs 488 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: on the heads of people all across the world. This 489 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: is not a part is an issue. I've seen it 490 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: firsthand myself and my many reporting trips to various front 491 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: lines across the world. Heads get blown open, brains poured 492 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: onto pavements, Limbs are torn from bodies, skin burns off 493 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: of the bones of innocent people. War is far more 494 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: violent than anything you will ever see in a no 495 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: rules fight. And you can cool clandestine fighters, thugs and 496 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: criminals if you want, but they've never since seventeen billion 497 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: dollars worth of military aid to a country in the 498 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: throes of a televised genocide. It might think this is 499 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: a straw man argument, and that's fine. Maybe it is, 500 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: but consider this. The people who dictate what level of 501 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: the qorum is and isn't allowed in our society are 502 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: the very same people who facilitate some of the most 503 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: deadly violence in history. My final point is to say 504 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: that many people are obsessed with violence or will simply 505 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: excuse it. They just don't realize it. At least with 506 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: no rules fighting, everyone there knows who they are. So 507 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: that was part one of the Away Days podcast. No 508 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Rules is No Rules. Next week will be starting part 509 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: two of the podcast, where we'll take you on a 510 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: journey through a deadly pavela in Brazil to see what 511 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: life is like when a gang takes on the role 512 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: of a government. Remember if you want to watch our 513 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Away Days documentaries, go to YouTube dot com slash at 514 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Away Days TV. You've been listening to the Away Days podcast. 515 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: Next week part two to watch independent Away Days documentaries, 516 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: subscribe to our channel at YouTube dot com slash at 517 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: Away Days TV. 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