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Speaker 2: You've been like an Oscar. God, damn evil, you can't
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Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: We got another email. We got email, and we got
Speaker 2: a voicemail. We got a voicemail. We got a lot
Speaker 2: of emails. We get a lot of voicemails. We appreciate
Speaker 2: all that you guys are sending. We're doing our best
Speaker 2: to frankly juggle all of them. So please, it's worth saying.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we don't get to cover every email
Speaker 2: and conversation on every episode, And that doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: we won't eventually get to it. But more importantly, it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we're not appreciative of you taking the
Speaker 2: time to communicate with us. We read them all, we
Speaker 2: listen to them all, and we we sometimes are very
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with some of the things you guys say to us.
Speaker 3: You're very forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of you are calling drunk.
Speaker 3: That's the funniest. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: A lot of you are getting like for real drunk
Speaker 2: and then calling us and it's like, all right, man,
Speaker 2: that's cool.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, it's like, I guess that's a fun
Speaker 3: thing to do when you're drunk. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 3: worry is that it feels like a lot of you
Speaker 3: are getting drunk alone calling us.
Speaker 2: I guess that's the only way you would call us.
Speaker 2: If you were drunk with friends and you called us,
Speaker 2: that's weird as fun.
Speaker 3: It just BECs some of you sounds like maybe you're
Speaker 3: drunk alone in a car.
Speaker 2: And just because that car is also your bedroom doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you can call us in it. You gotta you gotta, yeah.
Speaker 3: But keep calling them, keep calling, even if you get
Speaker 3: drunk and lonely and you want to talk to your
Speaker 3: two best internet friends you never met. It's all welcome
Speaker 3: over here. We got a voicemail that we were excited about.
Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating ship. Let's just play it. Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: get into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all love the show. I gotta choose part. The
Speaker 4: first one is just a question. I'm a black dude,
Speaker 4: I'm twenty seven. I grew up in the suburbs, and
Speaker 4: I just want to know what was the ditch that era? Like,
Speaker 4: where were you outside? What were you doing? What does
Speaker 4: this mean? What? What does it feel like? I just
Speaker 4: got into it recently because you know, fuck it, getting
Speaker 4: the new music and shit, and I just need to
Speaker 4: know the impact of this on our culture.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's pause right there. Huge, It was huge for you.
Speaker 3: It was huge period. I think I will say though,
Speaker 3: that I was late because, as we've discussed before, I
Speaker 3: was trying to do to live quality my way to heaven,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I was kind of like, hmmm,
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know what I mean, at a
Speaker 3: little like mynware academics corning, and then yeah, it was
Speaker 3: just such a beautiful wave that you couldn't I mean,
Speaker 3: just so charming. They were just so charming.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. I too, was late
Speaker 2: to the dipset train. I guess. I remember very distinctly
Speaker 2: almost getting into a fight at school because there was
Speaker 2: like a lunch table I was sitting at where everybody
Speaker 2: was arguing about who the best rapper alive was, and
Speaker 2: at the time everybody was like Cam's like it's Jay
Speaker 2: and Cam Cam might be number one, it depends like whatever.
Speaker 2: I was like, Nigga, y'all are hault wrung. It's Andre
Speaker 2: three thousand, and the way that these motherfuckers wanted to.
Speaker 5: Fight me, I like, legit upset people. They were like,
Speaker 5: shut the fuck up. Later, you don't know what the
Speaker 5: fuck you talking about? He's so much better. Come on, y'all,
Speaker 5: listen to this.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know when you played them what a job?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, they ain't trying to hear that shit.
Speaker 3: I will also argue that I think at the time
Speaker 3: they were probably more right than you were.
Speaker 2: I will I will never concede that I think that
Speaker 2: anybody is a better rapper than Andre, But what I
Speaker 2: will concede is that it took Yeah, I think just
Speaker 2: I just don't know that anybody could could do what
Speaker 2: he does. Man, he really is so distinct in the
Speaker 2: way that he even approaches the art form. I love
Speaker 2: it so much. I could tell I can tell, but
Speaker 2: I'll say that that more importantly, it took years for
Speaker 2: me to recognize that rap isn't just limited to like
Speaker 2: lyricism and sort of like an aesthetic, and that there's
Speaker 2: there's a depth and an importance in hip hop to
Speaker 2: like being able to create energy and a vibe and
Speaker 2: like truly build these waves like Dipset and Cameron where
Speaker 2: able to do and so like I recognize that like
Speaker 2: a rapper's influence and sort of like the Lord that
Speaker 2: they're able to build around themselves. Is also their value
Speaker 2: as an artist.
Speaker 3: Right, And I mean there was just Andre doesn't have
Speaker 3: his version of like let me know, like.
Speaker 2: There's no anthems, there's no like forever quotables that he's
Speaker 2: sort of like kicking around.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: And it's also like it also feels like with Andre
Speaker 3: and maybe this is a testament to his art, You're like, no,
Speaker 3: you have to listen to the whole song. You don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean it's always like no, no, no, Happy Valentine's Day,
Speaker 3: that be wearing the thought things bits.
Speaker 2: No, it's just fun, life changing for me. The love
Speaker 2: below was still is in some ways. But I fully
Speaker 2: understand that, like I was maybe living in a in
Speaker 2: a little bubble at the time of like no true
Speaker 2: artistry instead of recognizing that like yeah, but that's not
Speaker 2: what the that's not what the culture is asking for.
Speaker 2: The culture is asking for like a way to for
Speaker 2: us all to see ourselves in Cameron and Dips that
Speaker 2: were I think closer to that than what he was
Speaker 2: putting out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was. I mean I assume that
Speaker 3: I hear that there are still rappers like this now,
Speaker 3: but it was like those they were people were willing,
Speaker 3: people who had no affiliation to New York City or Harlem. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're willing to die for that. Yeah, just dudes who
Speaker 3: just dressed like Juel's Santana at.
Speaker 2: The Aurora Mall. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like and then the the way that it influenced how
Speaker 2: we speak, like literally like dipset like pause is the
Speaker 2: product of of some you know, I mean a dipset
Speaker 2: era ass like movement that continues to this day. It's
Speaker 2: not like Cameron and Mace will chill out about it
Speaker 2: like they really do it. There's still any baby.
Speaker 3: And it was like at that time, Cam, I mean
Speaker 3: Peyton fully had just come out like he could really
Speaker 3: do anything.
Speaker 2: He was and he was a good actor in that movie.
Speaker 3: He was a great actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I can do anything else because
Speaker 2: he was just playing Cameron. But he was fucking great.
Speaker 3: He was he went crazy. It was just like at
Speaker 3: the it was. It was a hopeful movement. It was exciting.
Speaker 3: Everybody was a part of it. It was a fun time,
Speaker 3: which is weird because you hear I've heard that like
Speaker 3: what's his name, who's the vampire? H playboy CARDI I
Speaker 3: heard his fans are like that. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: there's always these rabid fan bases in hip hop that like,
Speaker 3: young men will die for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Cardi Cardi has a truly like fucking
Speaker 2: Sicka fan like ass fan base. But I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: No, I can't anything like that anymore.
Speaker 2: I've likely tried with Cardi specifically, and I do not
Speaker 2: get it. And I know that that's just me being
Speaker 2: old and washed, and I just can't figure it out.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It does seem like, I will say, this is the
Speaker 3: Dipse era versus like a Playboy Cardi situation. It does
Speaker 3: feel like at that point the culture was broader where
Speaker 3: it was like more for all ages. It wasn't such
Speaker 3: a select you know what I mean. I feel like
Speaker 3: Jay like Blueprint, Like let's say Blueprint because that's like
Speaker 3: that dropped nine to eleven. We were in high school.
Speaker 3: Blueprint was like I was listening to Jay Z. I
Speaker 3: was fourteen, he is what probably like thirty? Yeah, Jay
Speaker 3: started old. Yeah, So it was like to that credit,
Speaker 3: those movements were like and even even Cam and Jay.
Speaker 3: Maybe Cam's a little but those movements it seemed like
Speaker 3: they were a lot broader in scope than they are now.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Yes, Like I can't think
Speaker 3: of another person who dropped like that where it felt
Speaker 3: like everybody, I don't know, Kendrick good Kid, mat.
Speaker 6: City felt like everybody was on board with it. But
Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like it was that big. So what
Speaker 6: it felt like to be outside? All encompassing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was, it was. It was really. I
Speaker 2: think all encompassing is a good word, even as the
Speaker 2: contrarian that I was, and it sounds like you were
Speaker 2: at the time. Unfortunately, Yeah, you could not avoid it.
Speaker 2: You could not sort of like wrestle with whatever was
Speaker 2: in front of us. So yeah, one hundred percent all
Speaker 2: encompassing is a great answer.
Speaker 3: And at some point you get sick of that guy
Speaker 3: at the party being like.
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean. Yeah, it sucks because
Speaker 2: like it's not like my favorite rapper. Your favorite rapper
Speaker 2: was to lib at the time.
Speaker 3: It's not like, uh, here's the issue. Well, I was
Speaker 3: just gonna say, I don't think it was talib. I
Speaker 3: wanted it. I wanted that to be what it was.
Speaker 2: You wanted a knit cap with a brim.
Speaker 3: But for for a second or just like trying to
Speaker 3: be like no, I really love like water for chocolate
Speaker 3: and not like it's a terrible album. But did I
Speaker 3: play that more than get Richard Die Trying? Hell no,
Speaker 3: But that's what it's like, even.
Speaker 2: If you did. When you go to a party and
Speaker 2: there's baddies around, nobody wants to hear think of that,
Speaker 2: think of that, think that that.
Speaker 7: Come on, I see you, pep, come on, come on,
Speaker 7: that's not it. Go ahead and all hey ma, and
Speaker 7: let's let's get to business.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's a song I'm made teen and live a crazy life.
Speaker 3: That's what you thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's no way.
Speaker 3: It's interesting to hear what the idea that somebody's getting
Speaker 3: on it now though? And being you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine discovering dipset right now.
Speaker 3: But maybe that's cool.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like a perfect type of nostalgia that
Speaker 2: you can just live in and celebrate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's exciting. And they got a Christmas album
Speaker 3: they were doing a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, well should we finish his voicemail?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's finish.
Speaker 4: It for me. She said that doctor Umar is a
Speaker 4: CIA agent running a reverse Ronald Reagan con on Black
Speaker 4: America and pretty much that he's not who he says
Speaker 4: he is. He has not built the Pan African School
Speaker 4: and the niggas just running around doing whatever he wants
Speaker 4: finding women on ig live. And that's a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of his true mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So it got off within that.
Speaker 3: I say, it doesn't have to be some reverse Reagan
Speaker 3: scheme for him to just be running around looking for
Speaker 3: women on IGI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think it could. I think it could truly just
Speaker 3: be that in some decent points being made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he can be a scoundrel
Speaker 2: without being a CIA operative. And and I think the
Speaker 2: CIA has never spoken to doctor Umar once. That's that's
Speaker 2: my feeling is is they they know frankly that they
Speaker 2: can't control whatever that is well enough to empower it
Speaker 2: to like do their bidding, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, that's not how that works.
Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of times with someone
Speaker 3: who is position themselves is like a teacher or whatever,
Speaker 3: their humanity will take them out more than any government operation,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just these people
Speaker 3: will be found to be flawed because they're people.
Speaker 2: I also think, not for nothing you And you know,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of the critique in Umar, but he does
Speaker 2: love black people. It's not like that dude is like
Speaker 2: actively working against us. I just think he loves himself
Speaker 2: and money obviously a lot more than anything. And and
Speaker 2: that's a different conversation, but I think Adams core this
Speaker 2: is a dude who deeply, deeply does care about the
Speaker 2: things that he claims to represent. He just doesn't care
Speaker 2: enough to to solve problems.
Speaker 3: Agree, agreed completely.
Speaker 6: I think I think a lot of times we try
Speaker 6: to do it, make it like a this or that situation,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Yeah, like like oh, he's
Speaker 6: he's either for the system or he's against it or whatever.
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know, man, It's just I
Speaker 3: think he's just a guy. But I do I do
Speaker 3: to your credit, yeah, your point, Yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: I think he truly loves I think he deeply cares
Speaker 3: and all that.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, yeah, just live and I think
Speaker 2: I think there's no world where doctor Umar goes into
Speaker 2: the CIA and lets a white man tell him what
Speaker 2: to do and how to do it.
Speaker 3: He now facts, I don't, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 3: that little of him that you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think that that that's like, that's that's a
Speaker 3: nasty thing. That's that's a nasty, nasty thing.
Speaker 2: I also think, not for nothing, I think if he
Speaker 2: were a CIA operative, he'd be bigger, like doctor Umar
Speaker 2: is is sort of like locally big, But I don't
Speaker 2: actually think that he's that big of a name in
Speaker 2: the global sense, and I think that he'd be closer
Speaker 2: to like what Candice Owens is, who does feel much
Speaker 2: more like a intentional plant on the part of like media. Certainly,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call it CIA because I think that's
Speaker 2: some of that branches in a more complex way than
Speaker 2: I know how to are. But I certainly think that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who are actively attempting to
Speaker 2: destroy communities that are being uplifted in a way that
Speaker 2: that feels false, whereas like a doctor Umar feels truly
Speaker 2: like he built it all on his own. That dude
Speaker 2: just built a ground swell of people who believed in
Speaker 2: his school or thought he was really really funny even
Speaker 2: as he's saying this ridiculous shit, and we just he's
Speaker 2: a reflection of our own sickness more than he is
Speaker 2: a bad dude who was planted on us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agreed. So you know, give doctor Rumar some space,
Speaker 6: is what I'm saying. Go ahead of all that, Go ahead,
Speaker 6: back that thing off of Vumar. Man, come on, he
Speaker 6: ain't got you all that. We are big fans over here.
Speaker 6: We've said it before. Doctor Umar is always welcome on
Speaker 6: the podcast. We've attempted to have him on the podcast,
Speaker 6: and it would have cost us more money than we
Speaker 6: we care to discuss online. But certainly, if we ever
Speaker 6: come up with that money, doctor Umar will be here
Speaker 6: and you'll know we are rich.
Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, probably probably one of the last five episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, use it or Lose it. Clause is gonna kick
Speaker 2: in and we're really gonna go crazy. Yeah yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: We got to spend the last of that budget before
Speaker 3: December thirty first. But yeah, man, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: loved it. Lumar Dimpsett was crazy to live. Also just a.
Speaker 2: Guy, just a guy who apparently acts up on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, I was a team. I was
Speaker 2: just looking for hope. My dad was five eight. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do. I get it. I was
Speaker 2: with you. I thought I thought that whole backpack era
Speaker 2: of hip hop was the ultimate salvation to everything. And
Speaker 2: I was wrong. Yeah, I now know I was wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, and it's just music. No rappers is
Speaker 3: gonna save this bro, no man.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what you figure out how to think
Speaker 2: as you get older, as you go, Oh, these are
Speaker 2: none of these are saviors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they work in the music industry.
Speaker 2: These are adult men who got attention too early in
Speaker 2: their lives and are really dealing with an odd type
Speaker 2: of arrested development. Good beats, good beats, good beats, killer outfits,
Speaker 2: nice rhymes. Shout out to the Beanie with the brim,
Speaker 2: Beanie with the brim baby.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have one? I never actually had one. No,
Speaker 3: it was I knew that was a mistake. It was
Speaker 3: just it couldn't it just it's just it was just
Speaker 3: not okay. You know, there was a lot I did. No,
Speaker 3: I knew that one was bad. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I knew that was a.
Speaker 2: Huge mistake. I stayed away from it.
Speaker 3: And this might be for another day. I just do
Speaker 3: want to put this out there and we can think
Speaker 3: about it. It didn't seem like at that age, smart
Speaker 3: people were wearing brown. Yeah, isn't that crazy? What was that?
Speaker 2: I think? I think you think about like what Common
Speaker 2: and most Death were doing, and it was a lot
Speaker 2: of like earth tones and sort of like knits, and
Speaker 2: I think that I think when you didn't have enough
Speaker 2: money to truly replicate the like crocheted sweaters that Common
Speaker 2: had on, You're like, well, what is the closest thing brown?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I just wear this padres t shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I just put on that. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm of the I of the essence.
Speaker 3: It's a tone from the ground. Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Smart people with browne to this day. Do you
Speaker 2: want to tell the people where they can find you?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
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