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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini yoursel mini episode, motherfucking mini your self.

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Speaker 2: Feel the rain on your skin. No one else can

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Speaker 2: feel it for you, only you can let it in.

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Speaker 2: No one else, no one else like you're going there.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, little mama's and gentiles alike, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: another phenomenal episode. And my mama told me.

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Speaker 3: The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of

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Speaker 3: black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: And we finally worked to prove the theories that you

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Speaker 2: the listeners have at home. It's a motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 2: It's a mini episode, baby, that's so yeah. Love Natasha

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Speaker 2: bett and Field. Yeah, yeah, she's She's thicker than you remember, really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: big old ass. No, I didn't even know there it was.

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Speaker 2: It was memed quite a bit. Uh. I think in

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Speaker 2: the past like year or two, people started pointing out

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Speaker 2: that Natasha Benningfield is it's very thick.

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Speaker 3: God bless her.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm you know el stick huh Nelly Furtado. You

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Speaker 2: lying gotta gotta gott a dumper on her? Yeah, really,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 3: Is that I'm like a bird? Yep, I had no

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Speaker 3: idea more like a hawk.

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Speaker 2: You've been like an Oscar. God, damn evil, you can't

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Speaker 2: fly away with that thing.

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Speaker 3: Stuck to the ground.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We got another email. We got email, and we got

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Speaker 2: a voicemail. We got a voicemail. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: of emails. We get a lot of voicemails. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: all that you guys are sending. We're doing our best

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Speaker 2: to frankly juggle all of them. So please, it's worth saying.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes we don't get to cover every email

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Speaker 2: and conversation on every episode, And that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: we won't eventually get to it. But more importantly, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we're not appreciative of you taking the

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Speaker 2: time to communicate with us. We read them all, we

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Speaker 2: listen to them all, and we we sometimes are very

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable with some of the things you guys say to us.

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Speaker 3: You're very forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of you are calling drunk.

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Speaker 3: That's the funniest. That is crazy.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you are getting like for real drunk

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Speaker 2: and then calling us and it's like, all right, man,

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah, it's like, I guess that's a fun

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Speaker 3: thing to do when you're drunk. Yeah. I think the

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the only way you would call us.

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Speaker 2: If you were drunk with friends and you called us,

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Speaker 3: It just BECs some of you sounds like maybe you're

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Speaker 2: And just because that car is also your bedroom doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean you can call us in it. You gotta you gotta, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But keep calling them, keep calling, even if you get

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Speaker 3: two best internet friends you never met. It's all welcome

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Speaker 3: over here. We got a voicemail that we were excited about.

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Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating ship. Let's just play it. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all love the show. I gotta choose part. The

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Speaker 4: first one is just a question. I'm a black dude,

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Speaker 4: I just want to know what was the ditch that era? Like,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's pause right there. Huge, It was huge for you.

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Speaker 3: It was huge period. I think I will say though,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Nigga, y'all are hault wrung. It's Andre

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Speaker 5: Fight me, I like, legit upset people. They were like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know when you played them what a job?

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Speaker 3: Right, And I mean there was just Andre doesn't have

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Speaker 2: There's no anthems, there's no like forever quotables that he's

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Speaker 3: And it's also like it also feels like with Andre

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Speaker 2: No, it's just fun, life changing for me. The love

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Speaker 2: us all to see ourselves in Cameron and Dips that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was. I mean I assume that

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Speaker 3: I hear that there are still rappers like this now,

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Speaker 3: we're willing to die for that. Yeah, just dudes who

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Speaker 2: The Aurora Mall. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like and then the the way that it influenced how

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Speaker 3: And it was like at that time, Cam, I mean

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Speaker 2: He was and he was a good actor in that movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I can do anything else because

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Speaker 3: He was he went crazy. It was just like at

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Speaker 3: which is weird because you hear I've heard that like

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Speaker 3: there's always these rabid fan bases in hip hop that like,

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Speaker 3: No, I can't anything like that anymore.

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Speaker 2: I've likely tried with Cardi specifically, and I do not

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: It does seem like, I will say, this is the

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Yes, Like I can't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was, it was. It was really. I

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Speaker 3: And at some point you get sick of that guy

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Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean. Yeah, it sucks because

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Speaker 2: You wanted a knit cap with a brim.

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Speaker 3: But for for a second or just like trying to

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Speaker 3: be like no, I really love like water for chocolate

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Speaker 3: and not like it's a terrible album. But did I

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Speaker 3: play that more than get Richard Die Trying? Hell no,

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Speaker 3: But that's what it's like, even.

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Speaker 2: If you did. When you go to a party and

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Speaker 7: that's not it. Go ahead and all hey ma, and

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like a perfect type of nostalgia that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, well should we finish his voicemail?

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Speaker 4: It for me. She said that doctor Umar is a

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Speaker 4: finding women on ig live. And that's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of his true mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: So it got off within that.

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Speaker 3: I say, it doesn't have to be some reverse Reagan

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Speaker 3: I think it could. I think it could truly just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he can be a scoundrel

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Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, that's not how that works.

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Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of times with someone

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just these people

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Speaker 2: I also think, not for nothing you And you know,

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Speaker 3: Agree, agreed completely.

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Speaker 6: I think I think a lot of times we try

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Yeah, like like oh, he's

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Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know, man, It's just I

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, yeah, just live and I think

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Speaker 2: I think there's no world where doctor Umar goes into

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Speaker 3: He now facts, I don't, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that that's like, that's that's a

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Speaker 2: I also think, not for nothing, I think if he

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Speaker 2: is is sort of like locally big, But I don't

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Speaker 2: to like what Candice Owens is, who does feel much

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Speaker 2: more like a intentional plant on the part of like media. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call it CIA because I think that's

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Speaker 2: I know how to are. But I certainly think that

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Speaker 2: that feels false, whereas like a doctor Umar feels truly

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Speaker 2: like he built it all on his own. That dude

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agreed. So you know, give doctor Rumar some space,

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Speaker 6: is what I'm saying. Go ahead of all that, Go ahead,

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Speaker 6: back that thing off of Vumar. Man, come on, he

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Speaker 6: ain't got you all that. We are big fans over here.

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Speaker 6: We've said it before. Doctor Umar is always welcome on

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Speaker 6: the podcast. We've attempted to have him on the podcast,

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Speaker 6: and it would have cost us more money than we

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Speaker 6: we care to discuss online. But certainly, if we ever

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Speaker 6: come up with that money, doctor Umar will be here

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Speaker 6: and you'll know we are rich.

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Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, probably probably one of the last five episodes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, use it or Lose it. Clause is gonna kick

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Speaker 2: in and we're really gonna go crazy. Yeah yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We got to spend the last of that budget before

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Speaker 3: December thirty first. But yeah, man, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: loved it. Lumar Dimpsett was crazy to live. Also just a.

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Speaker 2: Guy, just a guy who apparently acts up on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I was a teenager, I was a team. I was

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Speaker 2: just looking for hope. My dad was five eight. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know what to do. I get it. I was

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Speaker 2: with you. I thought I thought that whole backpack era

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. Yeah, I now know I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, and it's just music. No rappers is

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Speaker 2: And that's that's what you figure out how to think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they work in the music industry.

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Speaker 2: These are adult men who got attention too early in

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Speaker 2: their lives and are really dealing with an odd type

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Speaker 2: of arrested development. Good beats, good beats, good beats, killer outfits,

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Speaker 2: nice rhymes. Shout out to the Beanie with the brim,

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Speaker 2: Beanie with the brim baby.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have one? I never actually had one. No,

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Speaker 3: it was I knew that was a mistake. It was

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Speaker 3: just it couldn't it just it's just it was just

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Speaker 3: not okay. You know, there was a lot I did. No,

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Speaker 3: I knew that one was bad. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I knew that was a.

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Speaker 2: Huge mistake. I stayed away from it.

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Speaker 3: And this might be for another day. I just do

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Speaker 3: want to put this out there and we can think

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Speaker 3: about it. It didn't seem like at that age, smart

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Speaker 3: people were wearing brown. Yeah, isn't that crazy? What was that?

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Speaker 2: I think? I think you think about like what Common

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Speaker 2: I think that I think when you didn't have enough

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Speaker 2: money to truly replicate the like crocheted sweaters that Common

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Speaker 2: had on, You're like, well, what is the closest thing brown?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I just wear this padres t shirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I just put on that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm of the I of the essence.

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Speaker 3: It's a tone from the ground. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Smart people with browne to this day. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to tell the people where they can find you?

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