1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've heard 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Edith Steak, is that woof? 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Woof? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: And then and tie. 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Dan Robinstein. It is the last week of the regular season. 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: We did a part one for Rivalry Week back on Tuesday. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: We've got a part two coming everybody's way right now, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Rivalry Week Part dua, thank you, Thanksgiving in the good 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: old us of a a busy week in the forballer hood, 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: my good friend, welcome back to the show. 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: How are you great to be here? I'm doing great. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I looked at the document because we did part one 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: for all of the pre Saturday action. I looked at 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: part two, which is just Saturday, and I just said 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to myself, too many bangers, too many games, too much 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: greatness on the line, too much emotion. How do we 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: do this all in one show? Well, friends, I'm here 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: to tell you we're gonna try. We are absolutely gonna try. 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome one, Welcome all, hit follow, hit subscribe 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: if you have yet to do so. Hopefully, if you 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: are on the go, out and about on the way 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: to grandmother's house for Thanksgiving, wherever it is you may be. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading, for supporting. We will do our 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: part over the next hour or so to keep you entertained, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: to get you up to date with everything going on 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: in and around the world of college football. If you're 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: curious about what's going to happen on the Thursday and 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Friday games, if you are listening to this episode in 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: advance of those, go back and listen to the Tuesday episode. 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: That's when we cover them. On today's episode, we're going 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to cover everything that's going to transpire on Saturday, some 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: of the scenarios that could play out depending on how 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: things break down. Do our best to dive into all 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: of that and much much more. But make sure you 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: hit follow, make sure you hit subscribe if you are 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: amongst the people this Thanksgiving, depending on when you're listening 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: to this. 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: I like that you said if you're amongst the people, 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: as if this show is exclusively framed and directed at aristocrats, 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: of course, of course, if you're with the people. 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: If you are out with the people, let them know 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: about the show so that we can continue to grow 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,559 Speaker 2: the verboler hood. Last, but certainly not least playruntheboard dot com. 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big in this week. 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: It is sixteen rivalry games, all of which have a 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: cool nickname or a cool trophy. 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Play rundboard dot com. 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: We'll give you more intel on how to get in 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: on that game. We have not determined what the prize 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: is going to be yet. Yeah, and it was actually 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: kind of fun last week to just sort of throw 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: random thoughts out there and then weave them together in 56 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: the end. So I have taken on that burden as 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: you are thinking up Dan, what would make sense to 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: use as a prize in week fourteen. Just throw the 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: word out. I will find a way to weave them 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: together in the end. We'll give out a gift card 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: or something fun. 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: You send me a link to something called an adult 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: swing and I did not. I did not say that. 64 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: My computer is telling me that it is is a 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: very specific kind of recreational device. I don't know what 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: kind of STU appropriate you're googling over there in Chicago. 67 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: But Joyce, I have no idea what that. I did 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: not know where that came from. I did not send 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: that to you. 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: My mother is listening. 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, where are we going? Where are we going, So 72 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: we have to come up with the prize as we're going. 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: You know that makes sense in alignment with our conversation. 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: It's our big pickup game. Yeah, yeah, we'll come up 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: with We'll come up with some word association here. The 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: deeper we get into this thing, Dan, it is rivalry 77 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: week this week, which does mean only one thing. I'm 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: gonna let you do the honors. If you are ever 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: so inclined. 80 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Ty, you have got to throw the records out, Dom 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: out the window, dow them out the window, get them 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: out of here. 83 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: More and more coaches every year, every year now some 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: of these coach pressers that we see in the build 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: up to Rivalry Week, coaches start talking about, look, you 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: gotta throw the record. 87 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: You just got to throw the records out. Was it 88 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Jeff Brahm? This year somebody said everybody. 89 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a tweet saying, look, you just got 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: to throw the records out in this rivalry? 91 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you do. Who's Northampton High's rival? The Catasauqua Rough Riders. 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: I'll get out of here. Rough got calbas A Girl High, 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Oh my god, I think that's where Clay 94 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Matthews went yeah, I believe you know who went to 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: my high school. Who's that? Nobody? Nobody, not even the 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: famed early two thousands alt rock group Incubis. No. 97 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: No, we had Jim Druckey Miller, we had Brian Schneider, 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: we had Denny Oncott's back in the day, but otherwise 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: we had no. 100 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: No, we had we had Tapanga from Boy Meets World 101 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: and Jesse Spano from Saved by the Bell and Jim Rome. No, 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: we don't have anybody of merit and me and used. 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: So look, throw out the records. It is rivalry week. 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna go through all of these and much much 105 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: more before we do, though, just because we are interested 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: in being completists, not gonna yell. We have new college 107 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: football playoff rankings. We talked about the for Baller top 108 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: twelve on the last episode. Here is the actual top 109 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: twelve per the powers that be, if that's something you 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: care about, all right, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas one, two, three, 111 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: Penn State still holding on at four. 112 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Over Notre Dame. 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Notre Dame hanging on over number six, Miami number seven, eight, 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: nine are Georgia, Tennessee and SMU cracking the top ten. 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Good for them. 116 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Tennessee drops or excuse me, Indiana drops below Tennessee 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: and below SMU to number ten, Boise at number eleven, 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: Clemson clet'son up five now to number twelve. The first 119 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: four out per this ranking system are number thirteen Alabama, 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: number fourteen, Old Miss number fifteen in South Carolina, number sixteen, 121 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: Arizona State. Then and your reaction to this, do we 122 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: gloss over it? 123 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Do we move on? 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Obviously this is going to get a little bit weird 125 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: after this weekend, will it not? 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh, it will get weird. But this is basically our 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: moment to say, through what are we at through thirteen weeks? Yeah, 128 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: of data points, this is where the committee has landed, 129 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: and so we typically have said, you know, most famously 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: like when TCU was in the top four a decade 131 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: ago and they destroy Kansas and do nothing to say 132 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: that they're not a top four team, but they get 133 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: jumped over, they get leapt over whatever by Ohio State 134 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: that year. I believe that you're like, well, what did 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: this team do that was so bad? In the case 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: of Clemson at twelve, it's particularly interesting because they have 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a high profile opponent, they have an opportunity to cement 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: themselves as a top twelve team by that game in Clemson, right, yep, 139 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: that's correct, by beating a headline rival, and it at 140 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: least sets up the possibility that the ACC is going 141 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: to get a couple teams in, which has been a 142 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: question with the ACC and the Big twelve ACC More, 143 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I would argue with, you know, now three ACC teams 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: in the top twelve heading into the final week. So 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: that's interesting to me. And so yeah, just in all 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: of these it sets up the idea with Boise State. 147 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Now we still have conference championship weekend, of course, but 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: with Boise State where they are, with SMU where they are, 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: with Tennessee where they are, and most of these teams 150 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: where they are that are you know, angling for an 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: at large bid that this is a significant statement by 152 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: the committee heading into rivalry weekend. They're like, Okay, this 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: is how we view this team after you know, eleven games, 154 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: and that should mean probably more than a single data point, 155 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: but we'll. 156 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: See, we'll see. The Other thing that I think is 157 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: of interest if you look at this, Arizona State is 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: at sixteen. Also, yes, interesting, it is the highest ranked 159 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Big twelve team per this ranking set. How that changes 160 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: by beating Arizona. I don't know if it changes much 161 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: by beating Arizona. Arizona's pretty bad. There could be teams 162 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: in front of ASU that lose that essentially helped to 163 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: move up their standing within this ranking. The Big twelve 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: is in really interesting territory. I think you're probably looking 165 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: at a win in a conference championship game that would 166 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: move Arizona State up a little bit more and would 167 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: insulate them perhaps from somebody like a two lane. 168 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: ASU at sixteen. It's Iowa State at eighteen. So either way, 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: if if the Big Twelve championship ends with Iowa State 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: beating Arizona State, somebody who felt pretty damn good about 171 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: being in this twelve team field is being booted. Yeah. 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: And furthermore, TWU Lane is at seventeen in the rankings. 173 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: And so the place going with this is the way 174 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: that the rules are set up. Your only guaranteed spots 175 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: are for the top five ranked conference champions right by 176 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: it does not specify that they have to be Power 177 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: Conference right victors. 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: So there is at least a. 179 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: Slim chance, and I don't think it's likely, but there 180 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: is a slim chance that a team like al Tulane 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: could sneak in ahead of a Big twelve champion depending 182 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: on how things go this weekend, right, I mean a 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: lot can go wrong, a lot ca and go hay wire. 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: The Big twelve is already kind of in this blender, 185 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: but just something to kind of file away in the 186 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: back of your mind. Tulane sitting there at nine and two, 187 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: they are only two losses to Power Conference opponents. They've 188 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: been playing pretty well. There's a real chance here if 189 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: things really get hay wire this weekend, if Tulane goes 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: on to beat Army for that American title, that they 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: could end up sniping that final spot. 192 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm also I was curious as for Texas 193 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: A and M's rank because Texas A and M losing 194 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: and quadruple overtime I'm on the road to Auburn. They 195 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: sit at twenty. Yeah, and so now we talk about 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: the potential, albeit a low chance, but a chance, a 197 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: potential leapfrog situation of Texas A and M at home, 198 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: beating Texas and beating Georgia in the SEC Championship game, 199 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: and the SEC potentially not getting a first round by 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: if Boise is taking care of business and finishes the 201 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: season at twelve and one. Yep, and keep they keep 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: moving up with you know, teams ahead of them losing whatever. 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: I guess that that would well, that's what would stand 204 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: in the SEC's way of getting that by right, it's wild. 205 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: Man, I tell you there there are some real interesting 206 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: scenarios here. 207 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Because I don't think it'll be two lane standing in 208 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: their way. Probably not. 209 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: It probably won't. We have gotten to the point now, though, 210 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: where there are a limited number of games that can 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: give you that upward mobility and a limited number of 212 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: teams that actually have upward mobility. 213 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Given what's left. 214 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: Obviously, if you're not playing a conference championship game, you 215 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: got to show out this weekend. The other thing that 216 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: I did want to point out Dan before we move on, 217 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: the coaching carousel is starting to spin now, and North 218 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: Carolina has made. 219 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: The move on Mac Brown. 220 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Mac Brown, notably, a couple of weeks ago, said he 221 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: wasn't going anywhere. This followed reports from earlier in the 222 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: season after that James Madison game where he kind of 223 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: offered to resign if it would be helpful, and then 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: everybody had his back. Mac didn't have any imminent plans 225 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: to walk away. North Carolina has other ideas. North Carolina 226 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: is going to move on from Mac Brown. He's going 227 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: to coach this weekend against NC State. It's unclear right 228 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: now if he's going to be in the bowl game 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: or not. I would just call this out simply because 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: right now North Carolina is the top Power job on 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: the board, and I wonder if that's the reason they 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: made the move, if they are kind of the darling 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: job that is available right now at the Power five ranks, 234 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Power four. 235 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: Ranks, right, and it's the only one right. I believe 236 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: he won, So it's both. It's also the worst available 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Power Conference job available. It's possible, Yeah, yeah, it's possible. 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: But the fact that they are on the board early 239 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: trying to court some others who might be interested, I 240 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: think is intriguing and puts UNC in a spot that 241 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: I can't ever remember them being in. We'll see what 242 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: they decide to do. But if you are either a 243 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: lower level Power whatever coach looking to move up, if 244 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: you're a G five looking to move up, if you're 245 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: a hot coordinator looking to move up, UNC is out there. 246 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: UNC is the name on the board right now. That 247 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: is courting any and all who are interested, So we'll 248 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: see which direction they end up going. 249 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw Bruce mentioned John Summral in his first 250 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: year at Tulane, Jamie Chadwell who's been pretty successful at 251 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Liberty now after his coastal time. Glenn Schuman is going 252 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: to come up in these jobs because of how many 253 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: games he has won as an assistant and coordinator. Yeah, 254 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith came up because he's a North Carolina guy 255 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: and weirdly enough, they're like and his dad is super 256 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: loaded as a fed X. Yeah, there's a lot interesting there. 257 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: It's a very good job. It is a good job. 258 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: Let's get to rivalry week though, are you ready ready? 259 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's do it? 260 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Yah, time they need the week. 261 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want to short change any games this week 262 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: because we've got so many great rivalries. We are still 263 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: going to do our big games at the top. We're 264 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: going to do our part to rattle off all the 265 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: big name rivalries, the ones with the cool trophies, all 266 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: the stuff that you actually care about. So if we 267 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: do a little bit more rapid fire when we get 268 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: to Quad Fathers in that segment, forgive us. We want 269 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: to make sure we give every rivalry it's due this week. 270 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 2: If you're cool with that, Dan Ruis. 271 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Yes, of course we do need to start though with 272 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: the one they call the game. Yeah, oh my gosh, 273 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: of course the game. 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: Maybe the game isn't quite as big of a game 275 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: in terms of national relevance as it was a year ago, 276 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: but the game is still the game. It's at high noon, 277 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: it's on Fox. 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: It is Michigan at Ohio State, Ohio State. 279 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Playing another noon game. 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: This is when they play there. 281 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: Of course they are Ohio State favored by twenty one 282 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: at home. And look, did you see what Ryan Day 283 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: had to say about this game? 284 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I think he basically said, losing this game has been 285 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: the worst experience of his life, short of like things 286 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: happening with his family, So short. 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Of losing his father, he says, losing this game has 288 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: been the worst thing that has happened to him and 289 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: his family. Yes, which seems like a lot personally, seems 290 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: like a lot. 291 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: But this is Michigan, Ohio State. Whether or not that 292 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: is a good thing to have in our world. That 293 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: you are devastated to the point of emotional destruction annually 294 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: over this game. Whether you're a fan of coach, a player, 295 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the reality. I don't know. 296 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: I want to know from Ohio State people, does it 297 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: make you feel better to hear him say that or 298 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: does it make you wonder if the coach has a 299 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: screw loose? 300 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all. I think both can be sort of true. 301 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody doubts. I don't think any like 302 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: rational college football fan feels as if their coach is 303 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: not taking an incredibly huge, storied rivalry seriously and personally. 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much better it makes you feel. 305 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: The only thing that makes you feel better is winning. 306 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: To that end, Michigan has won the last three they have, 307 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: as you might expect, effectively driven Ohio State Ryan Day 308 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: a little bit crazy, and to an extent, this entire 309 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: offseason was about loading up to beat Michigan right, even 310 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: if Ohio State bombs out of the playoffs, which who knows, 311 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: depends on their pathway through this season. On some level, 312 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: is going to be judged by did beat Michigan? Did 313 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: break the stream right? And they are a healthy favorite 314 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: to do that. So I guess from the Michigan side, 315 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: given where they have been this season, some of the 316 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: obvious flaws that this team has that we know about 317 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: at this point, is the best case scenario look ahead 318 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: spot for Ohio State with a likely game against Oregon 319 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: on deck next week. 320 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you're just not living in reality to think 321 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: that in any capacity Ohio State's looking past Michigan. 322 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they are. I think that is foolish 323 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: to assume as much. I am trying to craft the 324 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: universe in which Michigan actually has a chance to win 325 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: this game. Oh, sure, that was what I came up with. 326 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: There's a look ahead spot. The defense muddies it up, 327 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: they keep it close, basically due to Ohio State when 328 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Nebraska did to Ohio State the week before the Penn 329 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: State game. 330 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Sure take advantage of a line that is beat up 331 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: and has shuffled bodies around, that has held up I 332 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: think in past blocking and past protection. 333 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Enormous stretch to me, Dan, Okay, I'm not saying I 334 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: buy this. 335 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I am trying. 336 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Is there another universe that you can craft that gives 337 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: Michigan the over Ohio State for the forty Yeah? 338 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's just a Will must Champ game, that's 339 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: all it is. I mean, the it's very easy to 340 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: not see happening, but it's very easy to sort of 341 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: imagine how it happens. And let's just turnovers and special 342 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: teams and freak plays. And you know, Davis Warren hasn't 343 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: been all that good of a quarterback for a very 344 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: disappointing passing attack, but he hits a screen that you know, 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: Mullings or whoever take for eighty three yards randomly. That's 346 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: uncharacteristic of Ohio State's defense. But this is college football. 347 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Freak plays happened, freak results, you know, crazy close games happen. 348 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Bad weather affects things. It's going to be freezing across 349 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: the Midwest, below freezing across the Midwest. I don't know 350 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: how that affects things. Likely not these teams practicing this 351 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: and training this all year long. But yeah, you just 352 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: it's your game simmed one hundred times. This thing only 353 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: happens three times out of one hundred. 354 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm just not sure where the points are coming from 355 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: for Michigan. Sure, I feel like a broken record. I've 356 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: said that time and again here against better teams. The 357 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: offense at this point is pretty telegraphed, and they are 358 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: not the dominant ground team. That they've been over the 359 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: last couple of seasons, and you know, you could say, okay, well, 360 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: Indiana did get something going on the ground against Ohio State, 361 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: which is true to an extent. 362 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: That's true. 363 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: But Indiana also had a deep passing game, and I 364 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: think the Buck guys are far more interested in that 365 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: side of their offense. That's why they took it away. 366 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: They were content to let them run runtil they're blue 367 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: in the face. Didn't match right, Just don't beat us 368 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: deep with the pass, don't inch your way back in 369 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: on the back of Curtis work. I don't know where 370 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: the points coming from from Michigan. It seems like an 371 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: entirely different situation. I think Ohio State clearly far and 372 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: away as a better team. I think if they can, 373 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: they're going to run it up, and I think they 374 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: might have the chance. So I've got this one at 375 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: thirty five thirteen, Buck guys, I've got a big win. 376 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: I've got a close cover. I think they break the 377 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: streak here, start a new one on their own. Thirty 378 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: five thirteens. My final forty five to thirteen. 379 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I think it's limb from limb. I think you 380 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: have exercise demons you leave in starters, even though Ohio 381 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: State will have played a bunch of weeks in a 382 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: row and a bunch of big games in a row 383 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: starting with last week and in Indiana, And I don't 384 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: think there's real hangover just because there's no inspiration. You 385 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: don't need to get up extra early. You don't need 386 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: to pinch yourself to get excited for Ohio State Michigan. 387 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: So yes, exercise demons. It's a Herbrook style again again 388 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: because it's in Columbus and so yeah, I short of 389 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Michigan overwhelming Ohio State's offensive line, which maybe they will 390 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: at times, maybe they'll get to Will Howard a little bit, 391 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: claps and pockets with those defensive linemen, they're good on 392 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the edge. Michigan did score fifty without any sort of 393 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: consistent downfield passing last week against Northwestern, So that's a 394 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: skill that you know, could they score thirty against Ohio State. 395 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening, But it's a skill to 396 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: score fifty without a downfield passing attack. 397 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: Look, there is a school of thought that Michigan could 398 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: just keep doing what it's done the last three years. 399 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: Sure that now, I don't think their line is as good. 400 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't think, as they said, they're a dominant ground 401 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: team as they have been. 402 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Noel Johnson like, yeah, there's just. 403 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: But there's there's a school of thought and I've seen 404 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: it discussed online. Don't subscribe to this that Michigan like, 405 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: why why change it if it ain't broke, Just try 406 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: and do the same thing that they have done and 407 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: beat their brains in make the game muddy. It would 408 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: have to be a close win, but just do that again, improve, 409 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: make Ohio State prove that they can stop it this year. 410 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have to get off the field 411 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: on third or fourth and short always like Nebraska was 412 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: able to do. Like when Ohio State has had a 413 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: slowdown on offense, they haven't been able to convert some 414 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: of those higher leverage moments early on in games. Anyway, Yeah, 415 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: that's what it would take. It would take Michigan winning 416 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen, twenty to seventeen something. It's just wild that, 417 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, there's maybe out of nowhere, there's crazy gusts 418 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: of wind sustained wins that completely slow down Ohio State 419 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: through the air. Again, this is how you have to 420 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: construct it, because otherwise, if it's just a straight up 421 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: back and forth. It favors Ohio State immensely forty five 422 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: to thirteen. 423 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not going to dive into wild hypotheticals with 424 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: this one. Just know there are some wild hypotheticals if 425 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: Ohio State were to lose here. 426 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Okay, if in the event that Ohio State loses, Penn 427 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: State is in the conference championship game. 428 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Penn State's of the Conference championship game, Ohio State drops 429 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: in the polls, I think they would have to be 430 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: slotted somewhere in front of Indiana starts to question whether 431 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: Indiana gets in, starts like it. 432 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: It sets off a whole. 433 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: Chain reaction of other questions, not the least of which 434 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: is what happens to Ryan Day after the season? 435 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: Okay, what happens to Ryan Day. It's not a great loss. 436 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: If Ohio State lose now Michigan in terms of where 437 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: Michigan has been here. 438 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: No, I'm just I don't want to go there, because 439 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: this is this is inventing stuff out of thin air. 440 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: But just know that there are a whole other series, 441 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: a whole other universe of weird possibilities that will show 442 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: its ugly face should Ohio State lose this one, but 443 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: we throw out the records in the rivalry. I'm taking 444 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: this game kind of in a vacuum, and I'm not 445 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: trying to assume too much one way or another other 446 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: than what we have seen this season, which is Michigan 447 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: on offense is no boyno. So we'll see yep three 448 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: thirty on Fox Territorial Cup Dan Yes, Arizona playing host 449 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: to nine and two Arizona State. Arizona State trying to 450 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: get to ten and two. They are a eight point 451 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: five point favorite. This is a big game for ASU, 452 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: to say the least. Arizona one by thirty six a 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: year ago. They've actually won the last two. This season, 454 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: Arizona has been the second worst FBS team against the spread, 455 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: so they have not been good at covering at all. ASU, 456 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 2: though has almost exclusively played in one score games against 457 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: teams from power conferences, they have not been out there 458 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: separating themselves in any kind of impressive capacity. So feels 459 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: like something's got to give here. Arizona very bad against 460 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: the spread. Arizona State not necessarily the team you want 461 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 2: to rely on when the point spread is greater than 462 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 463 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: And Arizona State coming off of an enormous, enormous, emotional 464 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: last second whatever you want to call the Kenny Dillingham 465 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: on field freak out, horrible clock management, crowd rushes the 466 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: field twice moment. I'm going to go ASU here same. 467 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Arizona is capital B bad, and I wonder how much 468 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: they've got left in the tank at this point. 469 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: They've had no tank this year, They've had no tank. 470 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: They're really limited on offense with how they can beat you. 471 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's noa fafita, It's team Mac. 472 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: It's team Mac orbust. Yeah, and even that has not 473 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: been a winning formula. It's been winning for everybody being 474 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: able to ooh and ah over team axibility, but hasn't 475 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: translated to the. 476 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: Rud blocking has not been good for Arizona either. It's 477 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: just been very very one dimensional. 478 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: I can see a scenario in which Arizona State goes 480 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: limb from WIM and beats them by forty. I am 481 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: not banking on that. I'm going to take a much 482 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: more responsible approach here and say it's something like thirty 483 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: one to twenty somewhere in that neighborhood. I think ASU 484 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: gets the road win there is that question about what 485 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: they've got left given somewhat down potential. But I just 486 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: feel like they are playing with a full head of 487 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: steam right now. And outside of maybe Kansas, Arizona State's 488 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: probably the team in the Big twelve that nobody wants 489 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: to play. 490 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have thirty five seventeen as it's not like 491 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: ASU is getting on a plane. This isn't Notre Dame 492 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: USC or Oregon Washington where you're getting on a plane 493 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: to play your arrival. I believe Oregon Washington would be 494 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: getting on a plane, but certainly Notre Dame US. So 495 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: you've taken buses two hours down the road, so this 496 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: isn't crazy in terms of travel. Even if there's a 497 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: letdown effect, you get right up because it's a territorial 498 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: cup and ASU smells blood in the water. Kenny Dillingham 499 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: rightfully so is absolutely ruthless. And this is a big 500 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: recruiting spot, of course, and there's absolutely blood in the 501 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: water with Arizona as one of this year's elite losers. 502 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: So I have ASU. 503 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: Big also at three point thirty. This one on ABC 504 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: this year, not CBS. Yeah, it's taken a little bit 505 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: of getting used to not gonna lie. It is Auburn 506 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: at five and six, It is Alabama at eight and three. 507 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: Bama is an eleven and a half point favorite in 508 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl. 509 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: This game. 510 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: More often than not, more often than not, has. 511 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: Very weird energy. 512 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, weird things that have happened with respect to this game. Now, 513 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Bama's won the last four Since twenty eighteen, this game 514 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: has alternated between being a blowout and being a close 515 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: Alabama win. Yeah, last year it was twenty seven to 516 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: twenty four Alabama. So if the pattern holds, then we'd 517 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: be looking at a blowout this year. The point spread 518 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: is saying blowout. The pointspread at eleven and a half 519 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: is saying double digits. 520 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: What is Dan Rubinstein saying? I have Alabama covering this 521 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: and I went back and forth. I don't think they'd 522 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: cover whatever it would be on the road eight nine 523 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: points against Auburn, but there is something and look Auburn 524 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: players as exhausted as they are after last week's quadruple 525 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: overtime win. It's also kind of a proof of concept 526 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: that Auburn can finish and hang with a perceived superior team. 527 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: So I'm not discounting that. I just think an on 528 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: Alabama as evidenced against I guess it was Drew Pine 529 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: missoo or against LSU, and on Alabama, if they're able 530 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: to game plan something that isn't just Jalen Milroe Jalen 531 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: Milroe left and right, that they can put up points, 532 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: that they can get stops that Peyton Thorn, for as 533 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: fun as some of his bigger throws this year have been, 534 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: is still pretty turnover prone and on the road in 535 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl. Even with Peyton Thorn nearly beating Alabama 536 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: last year, I just think if Alabama is kind of on, 537 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: they win this game by twenty. If they're fully off 538 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: once again and they are down on themselves and Kaylen 539 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: de Boor is not able to get this team up 540 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: after last week's lost to Oklahoma, that says more about 541 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Kaylen de Boor. But what's this dude's record in November. 542 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: What's this dude's track record and getting teams up for 543 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: really huge rivalry games late in the season. Man, it's 544 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: really good. I could not disagree with you more on 545 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: this pick. Auburn's my home dog. 546 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: Of the wink Wow, the Yokos home dog of the week. 547 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not going to act like I'm crazy about Auburn. 548 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: Okay, they were good last week. Yeah. 549 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: The main thing for me is that Auburn's got a 550 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: solid defense and Alabama's offense feels. 551 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Very telegraphed at times. 552 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very Jalen Milroe centric. That's part of why 553 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: we liked Oklahoma last week, was it not? It is 554 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: good defense against an offense that's entirely dependent on one player. 555 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: I think Auburn can ugly it up. I think they 556 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: can do enough on offense to keep it within striking distance. 557 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: I think again, this is something like twenty seven to 558 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: twenty four Alabama. I would not be surprised to Auburn 559 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: won this game out right. This just feels to me 560 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: like a good spot for Auburn. They want they absolutely 561 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: want to get Bull eligible. They need this one to 562 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: get Bull eligible. It's on the road at Tuscalosa, which 563 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: is not an easy place to play by any stretch. 564 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: But this rivalry tends to be real weird. 565 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 566 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: I see a close game here. I will happily take 567 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: eleven and a half points. 568 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: They scored seven points against Vanderbilt like three weeks ago. 569 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: I know, I know, it doesn't always need to make 570 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: sense though in the Iron. 571 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: Bowl, and getting up for Vandy is different than getting 572 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: up for Alabama. I am still track record with. If 573 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: you have the quarterback advantage, which I think Alabama still does, sure, 574 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: if you have the head coaching advantage, which to me 575 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: Alabama still does. You're playing at home, and while the 576 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Auburn defense has gotten to be at times scary good 577 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: and love Jarquez Hunter, if you have a quarterback who 578 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: is to this extent a wild card with turnovers, I 579 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: can't get on board. I get it. 580 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: I understand the logic. 581 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm either going to be crazy right or crazy wrong, 582 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: with almost nothing in between. This is just a much. 583 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: More flawed Alabama team than we are used to. I agree, 584 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: and it is somewhat telegraphed. 585 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: It is. 586 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: It is highly dependent on Jalen Milroe to go out 587 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: there and make a play. And if we know it, 588 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: certainly a team like Auburn with a good defense also 589 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: knows it. Agree, they've seen all the tape now they 590 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: know I don't know. Twenty seven to twenty four Alabama, 591 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: all right, we disagree, but stay in the three point 592 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: thirty block. They call it the Battle for the Jewels. Shalela. 593 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: It's on CBS. 594 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: Still taking some time to get used to that. Notre 595 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: Dame ten and one minus seven and a half points 596 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: on the road at USC. USC sitting at six and 597 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: five Notre Dame one by twenty eight last year. This year, 598 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: it's winning in the new playoff format. We just talked 599 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: about the rankings earlier. Their fifth A win gets them 600 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: a home playoff game in all likelihood. It depends on seeding, 601 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: depends where things shake out, probably as a five to 602 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: six seventh seed somewhere in that neighborhood they end up 603 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: hosting a playoff game. Depends where you look, depends on 604 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: your projections. Some have them against SMU, Others have them 605 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: against Boise. I've seen some against Tennessee. It varies pretty 606 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: widely right now because we just are grasping. But we 607 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: will see what happens if and when they end up 608 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: winning this game. But they got to win this one first. 609 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Da Oh great. 610 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: I've been surprised at your level of confidence regarding Notre 611 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: Dame in this matchup. You seem to be fully sold 612 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: on Notre Dame beating USC because you're fully out on 613 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: SC You've sold on c stock. 614 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and no, I took a more ten thousand foot 615 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: view of Notre Dame in their schedule. True road games 616 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: have they played this year? Like two late three A 617 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: and M and Georgia Tech. I want to. 618 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: Say Georgia Tech was in Atlanta in Atlanta, Okay, Yeah, 619 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: so they played Purdue, they played obviously then and M 620 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: game to start the year. They've played other games away 621 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: from home that neutral site. But in terms of true 622 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: road games, you've only been two, right. 623 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: And how many let's call it decent quarterbacks have they 624 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: faced this year? One in Tyler Shock probably, Yeah. I 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: mean Notre Dame schedule is benched Mac benched and bad 626 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Mac decent. Tyler Shock not good at Stanford back up 627 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. That was Pyron, right, that's his name. 628 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Navy not a thrower, Florida State not good, Virginia not good. 629 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Army not a thrower, right. I just don't know. I 630 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: think it's weird to go this far into the season, 631 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: and maybe people would argue like this is Notre Dame. 632 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: Every year, join a conference, cowards, blah blah blah. But 633 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: we just don't have a con Notre Dame down their 634 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: best corner defense irrefutably strong. They're performing as a good 635 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: defense should against this schedule. USC has been winning in 636 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: every fourth quarter, right. I saw the stat today that 637 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: they're one of five or six teams to have won 638 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: in every fourth quarter, and they've lost five games and 639 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: the other five or six teams have combined to lose bot. Yeah, 640 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: they've led every fourth quarter. They've led every fourth quarter. 641 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Something ridiculous. Yeah. USC is nothing if not a competitive 642 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: weekly team who is prone to gacking away games at 643 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the end, better at home games in LA. I'm taking 644 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: points here, No, I am taking points here. If there's 645 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: something USC gives up, it's big passes. If there's something 646 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't do, it's generate, consistent, successful downfield passes. 647 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Now Ryle Leonard's gotten better, they've become a more efficient 648 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: complete offense, but there's not a consistent deep threat element 649 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: to this offense. And maybe that's just because they haven't 650 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: had to do it, because they just stomp everybody. I 651 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: think USC loses this game. The score of the spread 652 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: once again is seven, seven and a half. I got 653 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: it at Yeah. I think it's a close loss for SC. 654 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: It's something in the range of twenty seven to twenty three, 655 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: because that's kind of SCSMO. This kind they'll be winning 656 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty with eight and a half minutes left, 657 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: give up a touchdown and Mayova throws a backbreaking pick 658 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: or something in the end zone late. I only managed 659 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: nineteen against UCLA last week, by the way. 660 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: I started from that point. Yeah, I started from that point, 661 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: and I tried to convince myself. Otherwise, I try to 662 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: convince myself because you know, my inclination will be to 663 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: go points here, absolutely no points here. Rivalry, game, crive 664 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: and cross country a lot riding on at USC, if 665 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: nothing more. Has been plucky against some better teams on 666 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: their schedule, almost beat Pen State. They probably should have 667 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: beaten Penn State, right, So that was my starting point. 668 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: I just come down on really liking the matchup for 669 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, okay, because I think they're much more physical 670 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: in the trenches on both sides, and I think Riley 671 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Leonard kind of breaks what USC wants to do on defense, 672 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: which is blitz the crap out of you. That's what 673 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: they've done all year. They blitz the crap out of you. 674 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 2: And the irony here is that though they're blitzing a lot. 675 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: Their sack rates, their pressure rates are very low, which 676 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: is basically a long way of saying that in this case, 677 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: if you're over committee against a mobile quarterback, that's not 678 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: something that generally works. I have not seen that generally 679 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: work in college football. I am not a defensive coordinator. 680 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: It seems like a bad formula to me. Riley Leonard 681 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: is that mobile quarterback. Riley Leonard is obviously the focal 682 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: point of this offense. Riley Leonard is also very good 683 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: at avoiding sacks in his own right. His sack avoidance, 684 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: I've said this a million times, very very good. He's 685 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: good at avoiding the sacks. He just knows where pressure's 686 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: coming from. Not always the best quarterback out there, but 687 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: he's good at not getting taken down. True, I would 688 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 2: be a lot more worried about this if it were 689 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: Miller Moss. 690 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I went back and forth. See that 691 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: the numbers and the competitive nature of these USC games 692 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: have not necessarily been on the back of Jade Mayava. 693 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 694 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: If it were Miller Moss, I think I would be 695 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: with you and I would go points. But though I 696 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: like Jade Mayava, and the mobility that he brings. He 697 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: is still relatively green, and I just think Notre Dame 698 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: is going to dare him to throw into the defense, 699 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: and I think that's where we see some mistakes. 700 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: So I think this is a good game. 701 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't think this is a runaway trained by any stretch, 702 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: and I think we're going to learn something a lot, 703 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: hopefully about Notre Dame and what they've got in the 704 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: tank against a better opponent. This is the best opponent 705 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: they've played in a while. Thirty one seventeen is my 706 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: final for Notre Dame. I think they pull away late again. 707 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: I think they win this game the way they've been 708 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: winning games, which is they're going to grind you down. 709 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: They're going to make you make decisions against Briley Leonard, 710 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: who is mobile, who they can put on the run, 711 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: who they can do RPO stuff with. I think he 712 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: will put this linebacking corps, especially in a bit of 713 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: a bind, and it is that matchup that eventually ends 714 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: up working for Notre Dame. Thirty one seventeen, Okay, we disagree, 715 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: and everything you said is totally reasonable and for me 716 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: to pick against a team that has an advantage on 717 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: neither line nor do they have an advantage at quarterback. 718 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: They're real big advantage is or not big advantage, but 719 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: they seem like that their depth of skill is at 720 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: least a little bit. It might have a higher ceiling 721 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: given that Lincoln Riley has that background offensively, and look, 722 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: Mike Denbrock is very good obviously, sure, but that would 723 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: be the advantage that those big offensive plays, if everything 724 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: is working out for both teams, might have an advantage 725 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: or might it might be USC's advantage. But no, I 726 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: think everything you said is sound. This is sort of 727 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: like a little bit of hoping to watch Notre Dame 728 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: play a competitive game rather than truly feeling great about 729 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: USC actually winning a game like this. 730 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: Again, if it were Miller Moss. If it were Miller Moss, 731 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: I would feel much differently the fact that it's Jade Mayava. 732 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: I Look, it might be Miller Moss in the second quarter. 733 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah knows. I think it might be done. 734 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven point thirty on ABC. This is kind of 735 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: a big another weekend. Texas ten to one Texas A 736 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: and M eight and three Texas is a five point 737 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: road favorite. It goes without saying that this is an 738 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: enormous game. This will be an enormous game if the 739 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: stakes weren't already so high. But the way things have 740 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: gone now in the SEC, the winner of this game 741 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: is playing Georgia for the SEC title. It's a big deal. 742 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Field's gonna be rocking. Five points? 743 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: Is a spread? 744 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: Dan? Yeah, how do. 745 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: You feel about that? I'm taking A and M. I 746 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: don't love it. I'm going with the home team with 747 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: not the superior defense, but what can be an excellent 748 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: defense in an environment that will be bloodthirsty. 749 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because I have seen this 750 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: question pop up a fair amount recently because of the 751 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: playoff stuff, and I don't think we've really addressed it here. 752 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: Have we been giving Texas too much benefit of the doubt? 753 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: You know, because a lot of the arguments, Yeah, a 754 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: lot of the arguments that people have made about strength 755 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: of schedule. I'm not saying it's Notre Dame. I'm not 756 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: saying it's Penn State. I'm not saying it's Indiana, right, 757 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: But strength of schedule on the Texas side has been 758 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: something that has kind of come up here, and there 759 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: is Texas getting too much benefit of the doubt? 760 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: Right now, I think they're getting too much offensive benefit 761 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: of the doubt. If anything, that I don't know if 762 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: it's a rankings benefit of the doubt, because they're still 763 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: winning games. And while you can question the strength of 764 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: their schedule, and that's fine, and the quarterbacks who played 765 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: in those games, that's fine, But I don't have a 766 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: convincing argument to put a different team above Texas in 767 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: this moment. So I'll say, for the sake of predicting 768 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: games for prognostication, yeah, maybe we are overrating Texas's ability 769 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: to take care of business against good teams because I 770 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen it this year, right, It's just a mystery. 771 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: So in this situation, I'm taking Texas A and M 772 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: because they're at home, bloodthirsty crowd, huge emotional spot, quin yours. 773 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: Beat up Texas on the road has not been lights 774 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: out on offense this year, and I'm just going to 775 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: wager as as much as they just don't. I'm not 776 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: enamored with this beat up Texas A and M offense, 777 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: but I think they can pull this out based on 778 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: where Texas is a where really where they haven't been. 779 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: I just think it's a tough situational spot for Texas 780 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: being a road favorite, where just whatever two to three 781 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago against Arkansas they struggled to separate on the road. 782 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: That I just, I don't know. I'm not enamored with 783 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: Texas on offense this year in the way that I 784 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: thought i'd be. So I'm gonna go A and M 785 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: bouncing back from a big emotional loss, because again, you 786 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: don't need to figure out how to muster the emotion 787 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: and will to get up for the return of Texas 788 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: against A and M. So I wing A and M 789 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: outright to win this game twenty four to twenty outright 790 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: outright at home. Man, they're my home dog of the week, 791 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: by the way, how about that? 792 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: Oh okay, the Yakos home dog of the week. I 793 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 2: want to watch the A and offense is just off 794 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: for Texas. 795 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. 796 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to watch the A and M fraught 797 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 2: against the Texas offensive line. Yeah, in particular, we saw 798 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: what Georgia did to the Texas offensive line. 799 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: Is A and M good enough to replicate that? 800 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 2: They're certainly good enough to try, and I think they 801 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: should because you mentioned Quinn Ewers is banged up. He's 802 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: out there on a bum ankle. This is an offense that, 803 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: to your point, yes, sort of struggled to separate, especially 804 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: in the road. We've just gotten done talking about it. Frankly, 805 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: we talked about it on Tuesday. Where is this next 806 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: gear for the Texas offense? Does it have a next gear? 807 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: It feels like a Sark offense should be a little 808 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: bit better than this with all the artillery they've gotten. 809 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: Why is it now? 810 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: I do question if Marcel Reid has the juice. 811 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: To beat Texas. I like a question that too. 812 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: I like Marcel Reid. Does he have enough juice to 813 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: beat this Texas defense? 814 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 815 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 2: I do love the spot for A and M, though, 816 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 2: and I also have them outright. I've got it twenty 817 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: six twenty three, A, I love that from you. I've 818 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 2: got it twenty six twenty three. I probably should have 819 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: made it my home dog as well, but I was 820 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 2: enamored with that Auburn pick. This would be an incredible, 821 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: incredible victory for A and M. This would throw a 822 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: lot into question with regard to the playoff, and part 823 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: of me is sort of enamored with that storyline. It 824 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: may have influenced my pick here a little bit, but 825 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 2: bear in mind they are restarting this rivalry for the 826 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: first time since twenty eleven, way back when Mac Brown 827 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 2: knocked off Mike Sherman twenty seven to twenty five. 828 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: In validate McCoy, Case McCoy. So it is just it has. 829 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: Been so long since we had this game. I find 830 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 2: it hard to believe that any one team is going 831 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: to blow out the other. So I'm taking points and 832 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm taking a and m out right. 833 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, we agree, by the way, that was case 834 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: McCoy sixteen of twenty seven four point one yards per 835 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: attempt taking down Ryan Tannehill, who threw three picks four 836 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: point six yards per attempt. Malcolm Brown on the ground 837 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: for Texas, Ben Molina on the ground for Texas, A 838 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: and m former Angels catcher Ben Molina or Ben Molina 839 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 1: one of the Molina brothers. Yeah, yeah, took a stab 840 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: at running the ball twenty five times in a rivalry game. 841 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: Markus Goodwin out wide with Jackson Shipley for Texas. Yeah. 842 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: When I looked at Texas's schedule again, through no fault 843 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: of their own, what have we seen against Texas with 844 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: a good defensive line and a decent quarterback? No, I 845 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: don't know, lose to Georgia, and that's kind of it. 846 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: Like Kentucky's got that good front, but they don't have 847 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: the decent quarterback. Oklahoma's got that decent front. They didn't 848 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: have a good quarterback. Florida decent front. It was an 849 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: Aiden Warner game like it. Just a guy doesn't mean 850 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: they can't beat A and M. They most certainly can 851 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: beat A and M. They can beat an AM by 852 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. It's just been a long year of not 853 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: seeing it. That's all. 854 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: I think about. The heart, the passionate, the love, the commitment, 855 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 2: and the energy you're willing. 856 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: To put into it. 857 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: All Right, the Quad Father's Segment's gonna be a little 858 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: different this time around. We've just got a bunch of 859 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: games that we need to call out. You can pick 860 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 2: your own quads, but there are a bunch of cool 861 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: rivalries that I think we need to discuss here. We 862 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: will start at high noon on ABC. Tennessee nine and 863 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 2: two Vanderbilt six and five. Tennessee needs to win against Vandy. 864 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: They are a ten and one half point favorite. Vandy 865 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 2: now with Diego Pavia has a chance to beat an 866 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: in state rival, has a chance to knock the in 867 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: state rival. 868 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: Out of the playoffs. 869 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: I would presume out of the playoffs if Tennessee finishes 870 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: with three losses. Does Vandy have more magic left? 871 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: Dan? I think they have covering magic. I'm gonna take 872 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: the points, Okay. I don't feel confident about Vandy scoring 873 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: enough to beat Tennessee. Though I'm not crazy high on 874 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: Tennessee's offense this year. I think they've slowly improved. So 875 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, yeah, twenty seven to twenty, twenty 876 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: four to seventeen somewhere in that. I'm going to take 877 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: points here Vandy as a home dog. 878 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: This one was Tennessee minus twelve when I made the doc, 879 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: and since then it's come down a little bit. 880 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: For as much as I'd like to. 881 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: Go Vandy to make it really uncomfortable for the playoff committee. 882 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: Let's get real, that's all I care about. 883 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 2: I think the combination of Tennessee's defensive front with their 884 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 2: ability to throw. 885 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: The ball, I'm with you. 886 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: I think that's more than enough to get the w. 887 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm kind of looking at this one like I did 888 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: South Carolina against Vandy with their defense are front. 889 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: Isn't it now? It would have been better if for 890 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: this specific game, if Vandy barely lost to Alabama, because 891 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: obviously Tennessee will have or Tennessee's attention will be fully 892 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: sweared on Vandy. Here, there is something about you use 893 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: what was the term you use, like controlling their own destiny. 894 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: There is something that, like diego Pavia is just destined 895 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: to hurt people's feelings. 896 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: I think this is this is his last regular season game. 897 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 2: He lost that appeal that he I mean, I don't 898 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: know where things stand in the court case to try 899 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: and get another year of eligibility. 900 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: You wanted to stay of some kind Yeah, yeah. 901 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, with junior college eligibility or whatnot. I think this 902 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: is probably going to be his last home game short 903 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: of the bowl, whatever bowl they end up going to. 904 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 1: So maybe there's more magic in there. 905 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 2: I look, I'm all for it, but yeah, the win, 906 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 2: no bowl, But yeah, I've got a twenty seven to 907 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: fourteen Tennessee winning and covering going to the playoffs. 908 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: Disagree he's gonna hurt feelings. 909 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ESPN South Carolina eight and three, Clemson nine 910 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 2: and two. Clemson favored by two and a half in 911 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: the Paul Metal Bowl. Dan, I'm going South Carolina. 912 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: Outright here, as am I. 913 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 2: I'm going outright ink Clemsons would be a big win 914 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: to get them to nine and three. I just genuinely 915 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: think they're the better team. I love their defensive front. Clemson. 916 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: I've come around on Clemson. I feel like I have 917 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: a weekly sort of check in with Clemson where I'm 918 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: not sure how I feel about them, but generally I 919 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: think it's shown improvement throughout the course of the year. 920 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: I just kind of like South Carolina more and their 921 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: defensive front. 922 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: So give me the game Cocks. Yeah, it's just a 923 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: consistency thing for me that South Carolina appears to be 924 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: peaking right now. Nearly lost to Misszoo, but I think 925 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: actually Miszoo has finally come into their own. It's taken 926 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: long enough, so I'm gonna go South Carolina here. I 927 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: just there is something about the trust of recent performances 928 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: that I don't have with Clemson. I mean, Clemson's very good. 929 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: I think Dylan Stewart I have saw that there's some 930 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: like public negotiations on what his nil number is gonna 931 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: be next year. Okay, he might add like a quick 932 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: three hundred K by performing in this one so yeah, 933 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go South Carolina here by the touchdown. 934 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 2: Also at noon in the SEC, it is the Governor's Cup. 935 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: It is Louisville in. 936 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: SEC Territory lex Tin Kentucky scoring off against their in 937 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: state rival Kentucky Wildcats. A battle of seven and four 938 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 2: against four and seven, louisvill favor by four. 939 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,959 Speaker 1: Who's taking home the Governor's Cup? Dam? I have Louisville here, 940 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Kentucky had average quarterback play 941 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: or proven average quarterback play. They made the change. Brock 942 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: Vandergriff will not be starting this one. It's gonna be 943 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: my guy, Butter Coally, Yes, Butter Kohley. But I think 944 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: Louisville is just too solid. The defense is average, but 945 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think Kentucky has the offense to take advantage. 946 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 1: Even though some of the skill on that team is good, 947 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're I'll button up enough team 948 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: right now. So I have Louisville winning this one outright, 949 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: covering with relative ease something like now thirty one sixteen. 950 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Louisville's actually played well against the better teams 951 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 2: in their schedule. They beat Clemson pounded with Stanford. Ye, yeah, 952 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 2: pounded pit almost beat Miami. They hung with Notre Dame. 953 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 2: The Stanford loss was not great, right, However, they're absolutely 954 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: good enough to beat a team like Kentucky, which kind 955 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: of feels in disarray right now. 956 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. That was across the country too 957 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: for Louisville. Stanford lost. Yeah. 958 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ESPN two Kansas minus one and a half points. 959 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: This line has shifted in favor of Kansas against the 960 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: Baylor Bears. Dan, I am one hundred and ninety percent 961 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 2: on Kansas here. 962 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love it. 963 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: I fully disagree and ninety percent They're the one team 964 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 2: the Big twelve I would not want to play right now, 965 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: even more so than Asu. 966 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm on Kansas. I think they're out of gas. Oh. 967 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: With his not really being a rivalry game, I think 968 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: Baylor has done enough both at home and on the road. 969 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm going Baylor here against this Kansas defense to take advantage. 970 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: Get off the field enough. Not a great defense, but 971 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: get off the field enough. I have Baylor winning this 972 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: one by I don't know, three or four points. 973 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 2: Two named rivalries that will move to the afternoon slate 974 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 2: twelve o'clock Big ten Network. It's the Land of Lincoln Trophy. 975 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen this? By the way, have you seen 976 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: the trophy? You sent it to me? Looks beautiful? Is 977 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,760 Speaker 1: that not a cool freaking trophy? The big gold, golden 978 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: looking top hat, top hat. I love it. 979 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it before. Illinois eight and three, Northwestern 980 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: four and seven. Illinois favored by seven and a half points. 981 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: Any reason to go to Arthwestern here? Now? 982 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's Wrigley Field, I guess I don't know. No, 983 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: I have Illinois big. 984 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 2: Illinois big, Okay, ESPNU. They call it the Battle on 985 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,919 Speaker 2: the Bayou matchup between Louisiana at nine and two. They're 986 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 2: a nine and a half point favorite on the road 987 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 2: at Louisiana. 988 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: Monroe Battle on the Bayou, Dan. 989 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 2: Yes, Monroe's made a good story. They can get eligible 990 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: with the win. 991 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: He lost five straight, which I don't love against not 992 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: so good defenses other than Auburn. I'm going with Louisiana 993 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: to win this one and cover on the road. 994 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: They're much better. Louisiana is much better, especially on offense. 995 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: So I think I'm with you. Okay, Let's get to 996 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: the afternoon block. Yeah, play, Welcome to the pain zones 997 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: where we live. Let's go to the pain zone. Could 998 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 2: this be the pain zone for the Miami Hurricanes. I 999 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 2: have Syracuse three thirty ESPN. Miami at ten and one 1000 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 2: is an eleven point favorite on the road at Syracuse 1001 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 2: Syracuse eight and three, very quietly eight and three. I'm 1002 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 2: expecting a lot of points. Vegas is expecting a lot 1003 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 2: of points. They've got the over under at sixty seven 1004 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: and a half on. 1005 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: A fast track in a dome. 1006 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 2: JMA Wireless Dome DAN one of the weirdest places that 1007 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: you could play, especially against a weird coach who does 1008 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: not shower if he doesn't win, So the impetus is obvious. 1009 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 2: I think for Miami, you win, you caull fly, not 1010 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 2: just for the ACC title game, but most likely for 1011 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 2: the playoff as well. Is Syracuse good enough to cover 1012 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: this point spread? 1013 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: Yes, they're also good enough to lose by thirty, but 1014 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: I think they're good enough to cover as well. Yeah. 1015 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: Is Syracuse the kind of team that is good enough 1016 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 2: to lose by one score against everybody on its schedule? Maybe, 1017 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: with the exception of pitt I think probably they feel 1018 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 2: like one of those teams. 1019 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: Even that pit game that was just a bunch of 1020 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: pick sixes, five interceptions for Comport in that game. 1021 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder if Syracuse is the style team 1022 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: that's going to find a way, come hell or high 1023 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 2: water to keep this one close. Eleven feels like a lot. 1024 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 2: I understand why it's at eleven. Miami is obviously very 1025 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 2: very good on offense led by cam Board. I'm going 1026 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 2: with the for animal, Baby. 1027 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm going with the f animal two. 1028 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 2: I got it at thirty eight thirty one. Miami wouldn't 1029 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: surprise me if Syracuse won the game out right because 1030 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 2: of the for animal, because it's a weird place, weird 1031 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 2: place to play, because Syracuse has a tendency to do 1032 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: this to teams. So I'm going Miami, but not covering. 1033 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: They've run well, Syracuse has and there is still something 1034 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: about Miami where you want to be my top five team, 1035 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: you want to be my top eight team. And I 1036 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: know it was a special teams thing and it was 1037 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of a weird situation against wake Forest. What's the 1038 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: score going into the fourth quarter last week twenty to fourteen. Yeah, 1039 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: for as good as Miami can be at so many 1040 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: different things on both sides of the ball, yeah, first 1041 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: half separation, first three quarters separation. It just hasn't been 1042 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: a thing for this team. This team is not a 1043 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: take care of business team. And now you're going to 1044 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: fly up to Syracuse, New York, play in a dome 1045 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: and figure it all out to win this game against 1046 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: a decent Syracuse team. I think they can win. I 1047 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: think they should win. I have them winning, but I 1048 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: have them winning. Thirty five thirty one, all right, we 1049 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 1: agree that, Yes, we agree? Agree? 1050 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, three thirty ESPN two. Another ACC matchup weirdness. It 1051 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 2: may sound to say Cal on the road at SMU, 1052 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: SMU favored by thirteen and a half points at home. 1053 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: This seems like far too many points to me. It's 1054 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: just too many points to me. Yeah, I don't think 1055 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: too many. And now this is it's a letdown spot 1056 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 1: for Cal having beaten Stanford in a big emotional spot, 1057 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: now traveling to Texas. I just think it's too many points. 1058 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 2: It feels to me, though SMU has been really solid 1059 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 2: down the stretch, and though I think they are getting 1060 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 2: a little bit better each week, given the fact that 1061 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 2: they've punched their ticket to the ACC title already, there's 1062 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: a look ahead spot here. There's a look ahead spot. 1063 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,959 Speaker 2: I would not want to be in a look ahead 1064 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: spot against a calgorithm no one more chance to put 1065 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 2: one final scare into a notable team from the deep South. 1066 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,959 Speaker 2: Mind you, right, thirty four to thirty one, SMU wins, 1067 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: but only barely. 1068 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: So you have like a certain amount of calculus, and 1069 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: it's not limited to SMU. You here a calculus of like, 1070 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: how many games do we actually have left if we 1071 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: are looking at a playoff berth, how much do we 1072 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 1: want to show? How much were we willing to put 1073 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: out there? How long are we willing to leave starters 1074 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: in If you are a lot of these teams Miami, SMU, 1075 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: any you know Tennessee if they're up reasonably so against Vanderbilt, 1076 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: or again like Ohio State, that you want to have 1077 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 1: enough in the tank to get to early January, middle 1078 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 1: of January, late January, or whatever. No team is fully 1079 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: prepared to do this because nobody team has potentially played 1080 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: as many games as some of these teams will by 1081 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: the end of the year. And so I think you're 1082 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at a number of coaches who are trying 1083 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: to think about this in a newly smart way. Maybe 1084 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: it'll work out for them. Maybe it won't, but I 1085 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: think a game like this, I think is certainly an 1086 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: example of where it could happen, where you're just like, 1087 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 1: let's just win, stay healthy, pull this guy who's been 1088 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: beat up early, and maybe that allows somebody back into 1089 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 1: the game a little bit. We'll win. No, I think 1090 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: that's where we are with smu CAL. 1091 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 2: Three thirty Big ten Network, Maryland a twenty four and 1092 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: a half point dog on the road at Penn State. 1093 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: Penn State leads this series forty three to three. Yeah, 1094 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 2: this game is almost never close. I think Penn State 1095 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: is going to lay the wood in as we say, 1096 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 2: forty one to fourteen. 1097 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: Is my final. 1098 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: I got Penn State big forty four to ten. Yeah, 1099 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 2: well you agree, very close again. Three thirty FS one 1100 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 2: Rutgers six and five Michigan State five and six. Michigan 1101 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 2: State needs to win. They are a one point favorite. 1102 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: Rutgers hurts feelings. Rutgers is going to win this game 1103 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: by three. I love Michigan State here really, oh, I 1104 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: love them. I mean, it wasn't a great game against Perdue, 1105 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: but okay. 1106 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm treating this one like it's some sort of playoff game. 1107 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: Truly. I think bowlel eligible and one I get Bowl 1108 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: eligible in year one. 1109 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 2: Jonathan's okay, yeah, yeah, we disagree. I'm gonna go Michigan State. 1110 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 2: I also have listed here NC State on the road 1111 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: at North Carolina. North Carolina, I have minus three and 1112 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 2: a half. I don't know if that's changed since I 1113 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 2: made the doc, but mac Brown's been fired. NC State 1114 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: needs to win this one and get Bowl eligible. I'm 1115 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 2: on wolf Pack here, give me the wolf oh man. 1116 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm on North Carolina and Max's final game. I think 1117 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: they run wild. 1118 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: A few named rivalries that I did want to call 1119 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 2: out here, yeah, and then of course. 1120 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: One other one. Did you say BC pitt I was 1121 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: going to get to b C Pittes, Okay, just making 1122 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: sure BC pit all right? So Pitt's seven and four, 1123 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: they're a five point road dog against Boston College, who 1124 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: is favored at home. You have a you have a leen? Oh? 1125 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: I love Boston College? Here, do you? I think Pitts 1126 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: season has collapsed from beneath it with Eli Holstein's injury, 1127 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: a couple of other key injuries. I just I think 1128 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: Boston College is in a nice place, so I have 1129 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: them winning. 1130 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 2: The three named rivalries that I wanted to call out. 1131 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 2: The battle line rivalry is Sarkansas at six and five 1132 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 2: against Missoo at eight and three. Missoo is favored by three. 1133 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 2: I've got the Battle of I ten between Utip and 1134 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: New Mexico State. Both teams are bad, but who cares. 1135 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: It's a cool rivalry in Mexico State favored by two. 1136 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: And then we've got deeper than height. You gotta say 1137 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 2: it in that tone. You can't say deeper than. 1138 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: Hate is deeper than heat. 1139 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, app State at five and five on the road 1140 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: at Georgia Southern, which is seven and four. Georgia Southern 1141 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: favored by two and a half points. Got to lean 1142 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 2: on any of those games. 1143 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm going Georgia Southern, I'm going to New Mexico State, 1144 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going Missoo. I'm going home teams in an 1145 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: advantage spot Missoos, as I mentioned, they've come into their 1146 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: own a little bit right there about to beat South 1147 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: Carolina obviously didn't go their way, but no Miszoo generating 1148 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: bigger plays more recently. As much as I like Arkansas Offen, 1149 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: I like Arkansas overall, but I just they haven't been 1150 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: able to pull out games. I'm going missoo here to 1151 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: finish strong and UH have an opportunity to finish the 1152 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: season with ten wins. Ten wins. 1153 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm with you on all three of those, by the way, okay, 1154 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 2: all three those we agree. 1155 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: Let's get to. 1156 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 2: The night and uh late. 1157 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait what Fresno State, UCLA, TCU, Cincinnati, 1158 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead? What do you got? Give me quicker? I 1159 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: have Fresno State the week after for UCLA the week 1160 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: after a rivalry game against a non headline opponent. As 1161 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: much as I respect Fresno State, I think Fresno State 1162 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: on the road here can cover TCU. I think beat Cincinnati. 1163 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: They've been performing better and better on offense earlier on. 1164 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I have West Virginia over Texas Tech 1165 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: Duke over Wake as well. In that early window. I'm 1166 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,439 Speaker 1: going with the road teams there. West Virginia better away 1167 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: from Morgantown, and I like the Duke defense a lot 1168 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: against Wake. Now we can move on. Let's move on. Now. 1169 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: You have to achieve failure. You need to take it 1170 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: that far. Nobody wants to go that far. 1171 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 2: It's too scary. 1172 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: You know something, I got news for you that's where 1173 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: winning is. 1174 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 2: That's where winning is. Dan yep, our final quad here 1175 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 2: of the regular season. 1176 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: I guess we. 1177 00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 2: Won't have quads next week. The whole thing's a big quad. 1178 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 2: I forgot to put this game on the document, so disrespectful. 1179 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 2: I forgot to put Washington against Oregon on the document 1180 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: after all of the baggage from a year ago and 1181 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 2: really throughout the rich history of this matchup. I forgot 1182 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 2: to put Washington against Oregon. So I apologize, Okay, So 1183 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 2: I mean no disrespect. It's an NBC game. It is 1184 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Washington at six and five. It is your Oregon Ducks 1185 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 2: at eleven or zero. Oregon is a nineteen point favorite. 1186 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1187 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Is there any universe in which Oregon does not absolutely 1188 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: lay the lumber to Washington in this game. 1189 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Well, at the risk of echoing myself picking against Washington 1190 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: both times last year and being wrong both times, it's 1191 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: trending in that way. Washington went on the road. Now 1192 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: it's cross country. It's a little bit different than staying 1193 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest. What was the final score against 1194 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Penn State a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, 1195 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: it's like thirty five to six. Yeah, Yeah, something like that, 1196 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: they had to make a quarterback change. The turnovers are there. 1197 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: I think even with Oregon not playing an a game 1198 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: on offense, I think the defense will get off the 1199 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,919 Speaker 1: field often enough. With Washington having some quarterback questions going 1200 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: between you know, Will Rodgers leaving the game for a 1201 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: couple couple of straight big games. I think it was 1202 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: against UCLA they pulled him after another suspect performance. So 1203 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Oregon's able to turn over Washington. 1204 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to run on Washington. 1205 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Washington has good defensive stats against the pass, but really 1206 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks faced have been pretty disappointing, just like you 1207 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: know in the instance of Notre Dame schedule, so it 1208 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't work out against Penn State when they actually had 1209 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: to play against a decent offense. I don't think it's 1210 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,959 Speaker 1: going to work out against Oregon. And obviously Dan Lanning 1211 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: has done a very good job motivating this team this year, 1212 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 1: pulling away from teams even without you know, putting in 1213 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: an a performance. So I have forty five fourteen forty 1214 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: two to fourteen forty two seventeen something that like, and 1215 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Oregon hasn't been a team to score forty this year. 1216 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,439 Speaker 1: They haven't been that team. But I think there's something 1217 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: special about this. 1218 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not feeling Washington this matchup here. I think 1219 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: Oregon is about as close to a complete team as 1220 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 2: we have seen so far this season, and I like 1221 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: him in this matchup to exact some revenge. I have 1222 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 2: to imagine, given what we know of Dan Lanning, he's 1223 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: playing up that angle lost to him twice last year, Right, 1224 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's just sort of his jam. Give me 1225 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 2: a Oregon minus the number. 1226 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't even think Oregon has an incredible 1227 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: offensive game. I just think that the game gets away 1228 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: from Washington in too many phases. 1229 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 2: Seven point thirty on Fox, they call it Pharmageddon, my 1230 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: favorite nickname. It's great Kansas State at eight and three, 1231 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 2: I will state at nine and two, I will state 1232 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: favored by two and a half points. Look, I have 1233 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 2: no idea who's winning this game. 1234 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: This game feels dead even to me. 1235 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: I looked at maybe two or three other projection system. 1236 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Everyone has this as even. Yeah, everyone has this as even. 1237 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this one. I'm saying, all right, it's 1238 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 2: cold night and names. I want the better running team 1239 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 2: and I think that team is Case State. So give 1240 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 2: me k State outright. That throws the Big twelve, mind you, 1241 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: perhaps into a further state of disarray because of the 1242 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: as you win. It would mean that ASU potentially rematch 1243 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 2: scenario conference championship game next week. I'm not going to 1244 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 2: talk through all of these things, but Kansas State beating 1245 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Iowa State could mean some really weird things in this conference. 1246 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 2: I just think they're the better running team and I 1247 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 2: like their matchup here, So give me Can't State outright? 1248 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Can you? You can't calculate on the fly for me. 1249 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I know you had some sort of web app available. 1250 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I can, I can't. What do you want? Kansas State winning, 1251 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Arizona winning, Kansas State winning Aria, both Iowa State and 1252 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: ASU losing. 1253 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay, in the event that happened is BYU Colorado, Okay 1254 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 2: for the conference championship. That's just those are eliminators, all right, 1255 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 2: to know exactly, and I do have in this block 1256 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 2: as well. Another game to keep tabs on is the 1257 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Houston versus BYU game, because Houston beating BYU is the 1258 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: one that unlocks true weirdness. We made a video about this, 1259 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 2: We talked about this on the Tuesday episode that we 1260 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 2: put out there, Houston beating BYU, also Cincinnati beating TCU. 1261 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: If both of those things happen, and the rest of 1262 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 2: the lot in the Big twelve is chalk, that's the 1263 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 2: only instance in which Arizona State could win and would 1264 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 2: not be into the conference title game. 1265 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: But I don't understand. So if ASU finishes the season 1266 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: with two losses, right, and Iowa State finishes the season 1267 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: with two losses, right, how does BYU getting a third 1268 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: loss throw ASU out of it? It would be. 1269 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: So what we'd be looking at is a scenario in 1270 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 2: which Colorado, who also has two losses, and Iowa State 1271 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 2: has two losses, two conference lows, two conference losses. Essentially, 1272 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 2: because of the way that the tiebreakers are set up, 1273 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 2: it would unlock a scenario in which we're looking at 1274 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 2: opponents and conference winning percentage. 1275 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Ahead of full record, which obviously Colorado has a third 1276 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: loss overall to Nebraska. That's right. 1277 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 2: And so in that instance, because Houston would knock off 1278 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 2: BYU because they would give them a loss, and because 1279 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 2: of the way that other tiebreakers would shake out, Arizona 1280 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 2: State would not get the nod. It would go to 1281 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 2: Iowa State. In Colorado, But that's the only instance in 1282 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 2: which it happens. The only instance of which it happens 1283 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 2: is Houston beating BYU, Cincinnati beating TCU, the rest of 1284 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 2: it being chalk. 1285 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: And Arizona State would obviously have the tie break over 1286 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: BYU because of head to head. 1287 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 2: Arizona State would have the tiebreaker over BYU, but they 1288 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 2: would not have it in that instance over both Iowa 1289 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 2: State and Colorado. 1290 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Who would go to the conference title game? 1291 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, okrazy, I trust you craziness. 1292 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: I have BYU winning this game. I have BYU winning 1293 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: as well. And this is one of those matchups to 1294 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: where I just have a lot of doubts about Houston's offense, 1295 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: And so is the spread still twelve and a half? 1296 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Twelve and a half? Before looking at the spread and 1297 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: considering the number itself, I said, Okay, Houston's defense has 1298 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: been consistently pretty good, has gotten stronger over the course 1299 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: of the season. BYU's offense, while at times shaky or not, 1300 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: they're not super prone to like a crazy number of turnovers. 1301 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know, twenty three points sounds reasonable. I 1302 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: don't see Houston any more than ten. So I had 1303 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: a twenty three to ten, and it's twelve and a half, 1304 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: So I guess I'm rolling with given those points. 1305 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 2: Gotta do it, man, Yeah, gotta do it. Who did 1306 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: you pick in Farmageddon, by the way. 1307 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 1: And farm Again. I'm going with Iowa State. I'm going 1308 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: with the home team. It's gonna be freezing cold. I 1309 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: have them winning by five or six points. I just 1310 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: the how off and inconsistent Kansas State's offense have been 1311 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: has been on the road. I'm just even if Iowa 1312 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: State its own defense hasn't been typically very good as 1313 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: it has been these past few years. I'm going with 1314 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: the Clones at home. 1315 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 2: A couple other name rivalries that we got to call out, Yeah, 1316 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 2: Commonwealth Cup, Virginia Virginia Tech. The winner of this game 1317 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 2: gets bullligible. Virginia Tech favor by seven points. Kyen Drones 1318 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 2: is questionable. 1319 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Colin Slee is questionable. Will I Shelee is questionable. Yeah, 1320 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: ill Virginia points. 1321 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 2: I still think I like Tech a lot more, and 1322 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 2: they've generally owned this series. They've won the last three. 1323 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 2: They won by thirty eight last year in Charlottesville. 1324 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1325 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 2: There is also the possibility that Brent Pry is coaching 1326 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: for his job, which I don't think is unrealistic at 1327 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 2: this point, given Wow, given where Tech has kind of 1328 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 2: finished up this year, it's definitely been very disappointing. 1329 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to go Tech. I like Tech at Home 1330 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: minus the seven. I'm going Virginia. The quarterback situation scares 1331 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: me away too much, and I don't. I don't think 1332 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Virginia wins, but I think they'll. They're good enough to 1333 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 1: keep this pretty tight. 1334 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 2: The Old Oaken Bucket ooh seven PMFS one Perdue is 1335 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 2: one to ten. They're a twenty nine point dog against 1336 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,600 Speaker 2: ten and one Indiana for the Old Oakan Bucket. The 1337 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 2: Old Oaken Bucket, by the way, named via pom almost 1338 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,839 Speaker 2: made a video on this, named after a poem Indiana 1339 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 2: minus whatever that we got Limb from Limb Yeah, yeah, 1340 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 2: eight pm, CBS Sports Network. It is Nevada, it is UNLV. 1341 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 2: UNLV favored by nineteen points. Here, gotta win. They get 1342 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 2: into the Mountain West title game. This is the battle 1343 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 2: for the Fremont Cannon. 1344 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Dan. 1345 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 2: Yes, some interesting historical points on the Fremont Cannon. Maybe 1346 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 2: the most expensive rivalry trophy used to fire, literally fire 1347 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 2: until I believe UNLV dropped it by mistake and no 1348 01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 2: longer is it functional. Oh that's something you care about. 1349 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Give me Devada plus the points. I think Nevada puts 1350 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 2: them in the choke hold. I think UNLV wins, but 1351 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 2: this is close. 1352 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: Nevada has lost five straights but have been competitive, but 1353 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: it's been against kind of I mean, air Force has 1354 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 1: been disappointing. They lose that one by three. Hawaii. They're 1355 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 1: not competitive against Fresno. They are competitive against It's really 1356 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 1: difficult to gauge. I think they're up for this game. 1357 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: UNLV trying to get into the conference championship game without injury, 1358 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 1: so I think they get up comfortably. Nevada comes back 1359 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: to at least cover this game. 1360 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 2: We've also got Florida versus Florida State. Florida favored by 1361 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half points. I'm on Florida minus anything 1362 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 2: in this game. 1363 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: Game. Yeah, absolutely. 1364 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 2: We've got Oklahoma at six and five against LSU at 1365 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 2: seven and four. LSU is favored by six. Part of 1366 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 2: me wants to sensationalize a bit and say that Brian 1367 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 2: Kelly is also coaching for his job. I don't know 1368 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 2: if that's a real thing. Okay, I do know that 1369 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 2: there is obvious disappointment with where LSU has finished up 1370 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 2: this season, and maybe we saw a bit of a 1371 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 2: renaissance with Oklahoma beating Alabama in the manner that they did. 1372 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna see a lot more Jackson Arnold on 1373 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 2: the run. I think they can keep this close. I 1374 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 2: just don't know if they can keep it within the six. 1375 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 2: I felt better about fourteen last week at home. Six 1376 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 2: on the road in Tiger Stadium at night feels like 1377 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 2: a different animal together. 1378 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I think Oklahoma is just never going to 1379 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:34,759 Speaker 1: be what they were last week. Often just the defensive scoring, 1380 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: the defensive putting your offense in position to score big 1381 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: time plays from this defense, I'm with you. I think 1382 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,600 Speaker 1: they regress to the mean in terms of total points, 1383 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: and they're going to find themselves in that thirteen fourteen 1384 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: point range. I don't love that. Garrett nus Meyers made 1385 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: some boneheaded mistakes this year, but I have this as 1386 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen. 1387 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 2: I've got this at nineteen to fourteen. Oh, okay, nineteen 1388 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: to fourteen. Another stellar defensive effort from Oklahoma, but LSU 1389 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 2: wins Okay fair enough. The only other game that I've 1390 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 2: got here because it's a good matchup. Frankly eight and three, 1391 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 2: Marshall eight and three, James Madison, James Madison favored by three. 1392 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm going to Marshall. They've been I am 1393 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: strong in conference. I like Marshall in this matchup, I 1394 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,759 Speaker 1: really do. I think it's a nice matchup for Marshall. 1395 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: One Thundering Heart. 1396 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,799 Speaker 2: If you are out and about amongst the people, download 1397 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 2: the Varsity Network app right now. It's free Apple App Store, 1398 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 2: Google Play story search for your school. You get the 1399 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 2: content that you desire about your desire, desire about your 1400 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 2: college football team. We are on there. A bunch of 1401 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 2: other podcasts are on there. Our friends at the Varsity 1402 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 2: Network do an awesome job. Go and download that for free. 1403 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 2: There is one more game that we should probably discuss, 1404 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,520 Speaker 2: dan uh oh. 1405 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: If you drop that big stanky play drum and five 1406 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: for me, baby baby, baby baby, let me cut the 1407 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: music for a second. Please take a knee. 1408 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 2: Can I tell you how many people message me about 1409 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,600 Speaker 2: Lehigh winning against Lafayette last week and then throwing the 1410 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 2: goalposts in the Lehigh River. 1411 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: I would assume many. 1412 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 2: So the Bethlehem Police Department did fish the goalposts out 1413 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 2: of the river. Yeah, for those interested, they got it 1414 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 2: and now they are trying to find trying to find 1415 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 2: whoever was responsible for throwing it in the river to 1416 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,680 Speaker 2: begin with. Good luck with that. 1417 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Does the Bethlehem Police have like a dedicated frogmen division 1418 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,799 Speaker 1: and Scooby a retrieval team something? Yeah, I gotta believe 1419 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 1: they do. 1420 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 2: I gotta believe they have something like that because Bethlehem 1421 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 2: is right on the river. 1422 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. What cars got to get fished out investigated? You know, 1423 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: weird situations happened. 1424 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, they fished it out. They're looking for those responsible. 1425 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 2: And of note, the Northampton County District Attorney, who would 1426 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 2: be I guess they'd have jurisdiction over whoever the assailants. 1427 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what you say, whoever the offending parties were. 1428 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 2: It is of note that the Northampton County District Attorney 1429 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 2: is a Lafayette alum. 1430 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Ooh so maybe throwing the book at him maybe a 1431 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: little bit of yeah, a little bit of bad blood there. 1432 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: I like that. 1433 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 2: Don't know if it goes full on refusal as a result. 1434 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how these things work. 1435 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 1: But who does Lehigh have Round one? 1436 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 2: Lehigh has the Richmond Spiders in round one, a historic 1437 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 2: FCS power. Of course, Richmond is a ten and one 1438 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 2: half point home favorite here against Lee High Mountain. 1439 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: How's the weather supposed to be in Richmond? Top of 1440 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: your head? Let me know, I know you just follow 1441 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 1: this stuff anyway. 1442 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, come on, absolutely no idea 1443 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 2: of whether we'll play a factor here. 1444 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Richmond weather underground, that's my go to source. Tie Richmond, 1445 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Virginia weather conditions for the FCS opening round playoff matchup 1446 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Tie, you're not gonna believe this monsoon like 1447 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 1: can didn't know? Saturday it'll be in the thirties, low forties. 1448 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm gonna go uh, I'm gonna go Lee 1449 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: High to cover this one. How about that? I'm going 1450 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,639 Speaker 1: to High out right out right? Baby? Who do they play? 1451 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Who would they be playing in the second round of 1452 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 1: the FCS playoffs? Bring up the bracket as I vamp here, 1453 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Tie FCS playoff bracket? Who would Lehigh face? Not if? 1454 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: But when? 1455 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, when Lee High wins? Lee High would then? Okay, 1456 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 2: where is it said? 1457 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 1: Now? I can't find it here. Let's see Idaho. It 1458 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 1: looks like I think Idaho. 1459 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 2: I know you can beat Idaho. Come on, get on. 1460 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: I know it's right there with Oregon week one, the 1461 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: number one team in America. Maybe they can't beat it. 1462 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Ida's good. I like their coach a lot. Let's go 1463 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Mountain Hawks. Let's go Mountain Hawks. Okay, that's all we got. 1464 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,719 Speaker 2: Thank you to one and all for downloading, for listening, 1465 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 2: for supporting what we do. Make sure you get on 1466 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 2: over to play rundboard dot com. We have not determined 1467 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 2: what the prize is yet. We have not been dropping 1468 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:18,679 Speaker 2: any keywords throughout the course of episode. We have been 1469 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 2: so transfixed by these rivalries in front of us that 1470 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 2: it feels like we haven't really given this prize it's due. 1471 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: We will have you. But well I mentioned cold weather. 1472 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 1: We will have a very big. 1473 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: Prize next weekend for Conference Championship Week. Conference Championship Week 1474 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 2: will have all the games that are played on Saturday. 1475 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,600 Speaker 2: We're going to mix in some player props. It is 1476 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 2: going to be the conclusion of our run the Board 1477 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 2: game before we go headfirst into whatever game we do. 1478 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 2: Winter Wonders style for bowls and playoffs and all that, 1479 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 2: which I have started working on already, and I need 1480 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 2: to talk about that after the show. But as for 1481 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 2: this the last weekend of the regular season, you mentioned 1482 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 2: cold weather. Yeah, okay, obviously been talking about passion, passion 1483 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: of rivalries, right, joy Swing Joyce Swing at the beginning 1484 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 2: of the episode. Sure, we've talked about that. 1485 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 1: For sure. 1486 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,600 Speaker 2: There is a lot of upset potential here. Yeah, to 1487 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 2: only further, I think the emotional weight of some of 1488 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 2: these rivalry games. 1489 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Yea. 1490 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,639 Speaker 2: And clearly this is a podcast. Clearly this is something 1491 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 2: that you're listening. 1492 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Clearly this is we can all agree. That's right. 1493 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so cold Weather rivalry with Passion. Obviously this is 1494 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 2: an audio only format. You want to give away some 1495 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,759 Speaker 2: sort of like cool, it's not everything can be viewed 1496 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 2: on YouTube. Well, you need to listen to it otherwise 1497 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 2: you don't really know what we're talking about. 1498 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:45,679 Speaker 1: That's true. Okay. 1499 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Do we want to give away some cool headphone situation? 1500 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:48,679 Speaker 1: Oh? 1501 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 2: Okay, you like the you like the cut of my 1502 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 2: jib here? Yeah? 1503 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: You got any good Black Friday deals? Any Bow's not 1504 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,839 Speaker 1: a sponsor, could be any Beats, any Apple? Yeah? 1505 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get away a set of Bo's headphones, Dan. 1506 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 1: Noise canceling. 1507 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 2: Let's give away noise canceling headphones from Bows. Oh my god, Ty, yeah, 1508 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,719 Speaker 2: you're feeling saucy this week. Okay, big week, big prize. 1509 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 2: They're on sale right now. We're gonna give away noise 1510 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 2: canceling headphones. I guess they're called Quiet Comforts from bos Oh. 1511 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,679 Speaker 1: I wear those all the time. They're impeccable. I love them. 1512 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 1: Keep the ears warm, Keep the ears warm when you're 1513 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 1: on the plane. Yeah, yeah, of course. 1514 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 2: Noise canceling headphones have changed my entire life. Oh my god, 1515 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 2: especially when I'm doing travel. They've changed my entire entire 1516 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,759 Speaker 2: mood everything. 1517 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Give them away. Great battery life with these, 1518 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: charge them up last you a long flight, no problem, 1519 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: talking about baby. I think that's a great idea. Ty, 1520 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you nailed this one. Bose Quiet Comfort noise canceling headphones. 1521 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Unless you're scared to compete, play run the board dot com. 1522 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 1: Get those picks in for a chance to win beautiful, 1523 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 1: beautiful headphones. 1524 01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 2: We will be back midnight Eastern on Saturday Night. We 1525 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 2: have done this show now a couple of years running. 1526 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 2: Every year we do the Week fourteen Recap Pod, the 1527 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Rivalry Week Recap Pod live on YouTube Live wherever we 1528 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 2: might put it elsewhere. Who knows. Every week we do 1529 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 2: every year we've done this. This week it has been 1530 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 2: one of our biggest shows, and there is a lot 1531 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 2: at stake here, so we encourage you to stop on, buy, 1532 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 2: partake in the festivities with us. If nothing more, download 1533 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 2: the episode, the next one that drops bright and early 1534 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 2: on Sunday morning. Wherever it is that you are listening 1535 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 2: to this episode, we hope you are safe. We hope 1536 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 2: you are well fed. We hope you are happy. We 1537 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 2: hope you're out there amongst the people and enjoying all 1538 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 2: of this weekend has to offer, whether you're celebrating Thanksgiving 1539 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 2: here in the States, whether you're out and about somewhere 1540 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 2: else in far flong parts of the universe, just enjoying 1541 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Rivalry Week and all its glory. Wherever this finds you, 1542 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 2: we appreciate your support. We hope you enjoy all that 1543 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 2: Week fourteen has to offer, and we will be back 1544 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 2: to help decipher everything that transpired on Sunday morning. 1545 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 1: Dan, I agree with all of that. For that, go 1546 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan. 1547 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 2: For myself, Tie, As always, you know the drill, stay solid, Peace,