Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes? Who is it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: This is a gecko guy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Sorry, I'm so loud.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I thought it was damn. I'm good. Wow, this is
Speaker 2: crazy man. I've been listening to you for years and
Speaker 2: everyone's right too. It's so weird to like actually talk
Speaker 2: to you. Oh my god, whoa how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? I am uh yeah, I'm good. I feel
Speaker 1: ready to talk about life and about stuff and about things.
Speaker 1: I I just got back from Iraq yesterday. That was
Speaker 1: pretty crazy, and now I'm now I'm back here in
Speaker 1: America hanging out, living life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really sick that you're I watched your
Speaker 2: break dancing video, but I didn't see your one talking
Speaker 2: to the Juggalos. It was a little shaky. Everybody. That's cool,
Speaker 2: but no, that's that's sick that you were in Iraq.
Speaker 2: It's really cool that you're able to like travel and
Speaker 2: make your make your job part of that too. It's
Speaker 2: been cool to hear you with your uh with your podcast,
Speaker 2: like seeing how it's growing and seeing you kind of
Speaker 2: follow your passion. It's really cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you, thank you. You know, I wanted,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the all the iraction on
Speaker 1: the podcast, but I'm I'm going to do that at
Speaker 1: another point because I want to talk to you because, uh,
Speaker 1: you texted me something that I thought was super interesting
Speaker 1: and I have questions. I am curious. You told me
Speaker 1: that you did a strong man show today, yeah, and that,
Speaker 1: uh you want to talk about like you want to
Speaker 1: talk about these are your words, being a muscle mommy
Speaker 1: and competing in a strong Man as a woman. I'm
Speaker 1: very curious about that. Please please tell me how it went.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I don't know how much other people or
Speaker 2: how much you know about strength sports necessarily. I know
Speaker 2: you've kind of talked about fitness on the podcast, and
Speaker 2: I've always thought it would be kind of interesting if
Speaker 2: I called in to provide my perspective on being in
Speaker 2: strength sports too and having that kind of be my passion.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so, I I am twenty eight. Now. I
Speaker 2: know you never like remember people's names, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: really matter too much. But I'm twenty eight. I started lifting,
Speaker 2: like doing up powerlifting, which is like squat, bench press
Speaker 2: and bedlift. I started training that in my freshman year
Speaker 2: of college in twenty fifteen, and then I did a
Speaker 2: lot of power lifting meets between twenty fifteen and about
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one when I started freshman year of college,
Speaker 2: like I said, and then I graduated college and I
Speaker 2: went to a gym where they had strong Man stuff,
Speaker 2: and so strong Man it kind of like the the
Speaker 2: thing that people think of with strong Man is like
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen the guy in a circus uniform
Speaker 2: with just the mustache and no hair and the big
Speaker 2: dumbbell and like the stripey shorts. You know, if you
Speaker 2: could picture that, that's they call that, Like the giant
Speaker 2: tell bell is called a circus bill, and that's sometimes
Speaker 2: an event. It's strong Man was kind of just bringing
Speaker 2: about bringing a weight that's as heavy as you can
Speaker 2: from point A to point B. So sometimes it's that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I've pulled a truck before the competition, which is cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my profile picture on Instagram is me pulling a truck
Speaker 2: with like a flag on the back. In school. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's well known for like Atlas stones what they're called,
Speaker 2: and they're just big round stones and you pick it
Speaker 2: up and you either put it over a bar or
Speaker 2: put it up to a platform. You carry a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff you do, deadlifts, reps. Sometimes it's kind of
Speaker 2: just nowadays I've noticed and I'm like, I go on
Speaker 2: Reddit a lot, and there's a subreddit for strongmans and
Speaker 2: the sub for everything, and I saw somebody's hot take
Speaker 2: a strong man has gotten kind of it used to
Speaker 2: be more exciting and now it's kind of like it's
Speaker 2: not as exciting, like they used to do sumo wrestling
Speaker 2: and they used to like flip cars, and now it's
Speaker 2: kind of more it's it's it's a way I think
Speaker 2: nowadays it's more like dead lifts and more standardized stuff
Speaker 2: as I think to get more people into it. But
Speaker 2: it's it's not it's not like creamy stuff now.
Speaker 1: I mean you pull, you know, is there like a
Speaker 1: what was the other I guess is the idea that
Speaker 1: like it should have been more crazy thing like picking
Speaker 1: up a like like they put a child under a
Speaker 1: car and you got to save them type of stuff.
Speaker 2: I do actually know one of the people at the
Speaker 2: gym that I go to there's a show where one
Speaker 2: of the events is running through drywall, and he was like, man,
Speaker 2: I wish I could have done that one. But I
Speaker 2: mean the show I did today. I wish I could.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping when I explained stuff, if like it's not
Speaker 2: clear what I'm saying, I could try to elaborate, but
Speaker 2: like I think the coolest one that I did today,
Speaker 2: or like, there's one event. It's a yoke and so
Speaker 2: it's like think of a barbell and it's welded to
Speaker 2: two posts on the side. It's like if you've ever
Speaker 2: seen the stuff that like cows will pull that, that's
Speaker 2: literally a yoke and it's strong man. You'll you'll kind
Speaker 2: of get under it and you'll walk with it, sometimes
Speaker 2: fifty feet sometimes and in this particular case, it was
Speaker 2: carry the yolks fifty feet and then grab farmer handles,
Speaker 2: which is kind of like if you can carry two
Speaker 2: bags of groceries, then you can do farmer carry, but
Speaker 2: then picking that up and carrying that fifty feet back.
Speaker 2: And the yolk that I carried was four hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty pounds and I'm I'm five to two and I
Speaker 2: weigh about one forty five pounds, So wow, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's cool to be able to because I've been
Speaker 2: doing string sports, like I said, for almost ten years
Speaker 2: at this point, so to be a female athlete in
Speaker 2: like where my focus isn't like trying to be small
Speaker 2: and lose weight, it's trying to build muscle and take
Speaker 2: care of myself to like lift as much weight as
Speaker 2: I can. I'm actually too, I'm more excited because in
Speaker 2: January too, I'm doing so for context too. With strong Man,
Speaker 2: it's very common for people to take steroids, like the
Speaker 2: big guys at the tippy top, if you know, like
Speaker 2: half thorb Jordson for instance, he was the Mountain and
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, or like Eddie Hall is a popular
Speaker 2: name to those guys. It's like pretty understood in the
Speaker 2: community that they take steroids like the top guys typically do.
Speaker 2: And so there's a federation in strong Man where it's
Speaker 2: for people who don't take steroids. And since I've been
Speaker 2: doing it long enough, like not a lot of women
Speaker 2: do strength sports. So because I've been doing that long enough,
Speaker 2: like I'm pretty good at it now, and the show
Speaker 2: in January that I'm doing would be a qualifier to
Speaker 2: go to Worlds for the federation in like August next
Speaker 2: year probably. So I've never I've only traveled to South
Speaker 2: America once I went to the Amazon Rainforest, it's funny enough.
Speaker 2: That's the only time I've left the country, but for
Speaker 2: the show. It would be cool. I would like be
Speaker 2: able to qualify and compete and go to Europe hopefully,
Speaker 2: and I think it was in the UK this year,
Speaker 2: but it'd be cool if it were there Ireland. I
Speaker 2: think I'd love to go there next year and like
Speaker 2: do a strength competition and stuff. You know, it'd be
Speaker 2: so cool.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's so cool. So the so thet when
Speaker 1: you say so the steroids thing, it seems to me
Speaker 1: that it's like, uh, everyone kind of is it kind
Speaker 1: of like a thing where it's like you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to do it, but everyone just fucking does it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so in strong Man and honestly kind of
Speaker 2: an Olympic sports to my understanding, there's ways to if
Speaker 2: you get blood work done regularly and you eat healthy
Speaker 2: and try to like get good sleep. There's there's always risks,
Speaker 2: but there's ways to do it and kind of mitigate
Speaker 2: those risks. Like they say cycling on and off, Like
Speaker 2: cycling on is like taking some sterized and then cycling off.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what you're supposed to do to help
Speaker 2: like reset your body, and so I've met different people
Speaker 2: who talk openly about it. There's a lot of channels
Speaker 2: on YouTube or people talk openly about it, and I
Speaker 2: follow athletes on Instagram that's talks openly about it. So
Speaker 2: I'm actually funny enough too. I would have considered taking
Speaker 2: it if there was a point, because like, I'm a
Speaker 2: good athlete, but I don't know if I could ever
Speaker 2: like be the best. And I thought about it. But
Speaker 2: the reason I don't do is my boyfriend, who he
Speaker 2: is a powerlifter. He's like, if I took it, you
Speaker 2: know it, it would make me have a deeper voice,
Speaker 2: and it would give you more masculine features and probably
Speaker 2: like lose my hair and stuff. And if the roles
Speaker 2: were reversed, I probably wouldn't be happy if he took
Speaker 2: steroids either. So it's it's I'm not gonna like it's
Speaker 2: I don't know how common it is necessarily because like
Speaker 2: people aren't all talking openly about it, but I know
Speaker 2: that it is a thing where they're like people might
Speaker 2: you know, take like a little bit of home to them,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious. So your boyfriend is also a powerlifter.
Speaker 2: He's a powerlifter. I'm a strong an athlete.
Speaker 1: Who would win in a fight.
Speaker 2: He would, So I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I'm curious about this, Like was it important to you?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure that like because listen, here's like the
Speaker 1: average even though you're five to two. But the fact
Speaker 1: that like you could probably like the average guy, right
Speaker 1: like you could beat the ship out of me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you could beat the ship
Speaker 1: out of probably most average guys, right Like? Was that
Speaker 1: when you were like dating, was that important to you
Speaker 1: to find like like I I was that the thing
Speaker 1: where you're like, you know, I accept that I could
Speaker 1: beat the ship out of most average guys? Or was
Speaker 1: it important to you, like find someone who is also
Speaker 1: like you know, who was like like I guess above
Speaker 1: your level, not like above your level, you know, but
Speaker 1: like you know can like uh like physically like like
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, is that
Speaker 1: important to you that you're you know you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is wrong? I do.
Speaker 2: No, I never thought about it necessarily as like someone
Speaker 2: I could be in a site versus couldn't. But I did,
Speaker 2: like it's hard to be a woman doing strength sports
Speaker 2: and accept that like have like I don't have a
Speaker 2: small waist, I'm kind of blocky, and I I feel
Speaker 2: like I have like kind of more masculine features because
Speaker 2: I'm more muscular, so I was I've dated at this point.
Speaker 2: Now I think it's like the fourth guy that I've
Speaker 2: dated and after the last one, I guess the last
Speaker 2: one was this one. Now, I did want somebody who
Speaker 2: uh like a beefcake, you know, like a huge size.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And look, you got to where
Speaker 1: you and you deserve that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, because like in the in the
Speaker 1: dating universe, in the dating universe, it's you really you
Speaker 1: really can't ask for anything that you don't have, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you if you wanted, like
Speaker 1: if you wanted like a like a hot muscular guy,
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, you've earned it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's nice. You do kind of get your
Speaker 2: pick of the letter if you are a girl who
Speaker 2: does shrink sports, because it's like, you know, there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of us, so it's kind of nice in
Speaker 2: that regard.
Speaker 1: To pass three guys. Do you think you could have
Speaker 1: beaten them up?
Speaker 2: No, so my my last boyfriend, Oh that's kind of funny. Uh,
Speaker 2: my last boyfriend he was six foot three and at
Speaker 2: one point almost four hundred pounds, and he was a
Speaker 2: strong man too. He actually when we were going through
Speaker 2: our breakup, he didn't he wanted to talk things through,
Speaker 2: and so he sat in front the door for like
Speaker 2: three hours because he didn't want me to leave, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't have moved him, Like I like try to
Speaker 2: nudge it a little bit. That whole thing is kind
Speaker 2: of funny too. But I think my second one probably
Speaker 2: and well because it's funny enough. Like my original type
Speaker 2: was like skinny white dude like I was. I'm also
Speaker 2: an engineer, so like I was surrounded by like skinny
Speaker 2: white guy, right, and that you stalls be my type.
Speaker 2: But then you know, you do strength sports, so it's
Speaker 2: like you're at the gym four to five days a week,
Speaker 2: two to three hours at a time, so you're kind
Speaker 2: of surrounded five yeah. Yeah, I'm just you're surrounded by
Speaker 2: these giant, muscly guys. So you know, you see that
Speaker 2: for like five six years, and that's kind of like
Speaker 2: how your type transitions. That's what I noticed for myself.
Speaker 3: I guess, mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so you go to the gym do you
Speaker 1: used to sell for how how many years have you
Speaker 1: been going to the gym five times a week, four
Speaker 1: to five times a week, two to three hours.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what I was doing in college. I
Speaker 2: do know honestly that I was a bit more anal
Speaker 2: when I was in college. Honestly, up until I dated
Speaker 2: my last boyfriend, I was like way more anal about it.
Speaker 2: And I think I started lifting and competing in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: so it was probably from like twenty seventeen up until now.
Speaker 2: You know I'm going to the gym. Well, right now,
Speaker 2: I go to the gym to do strength training four
Speaker 2: days a week, and then I rock climb once a week.
Speaker 2: I actually too as a side note, because I've been
Speaker 2: listening to your podcast so long. You talk a lot
Speaker 2: about just like you know, going out and doing shit,
Speaker 2: and I talk about your podcast with people a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've gotten anyone to listen to your books.
Speaker 1: It's a tough pi, no, but it's so good.
Speaker 2: And on Monday nights at the rock climbing gym I
Speaker 2: go to they have a ladies' night at six o'clock,
Speaker 2: different women can go and there's a form of rock
Speaker 2: climbing it's called blaying. I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: what that means, but that's like when you have to
Speaker 2: harness and you're hooked up to someone. And so I
Speaker 2: kind of did that and was like trying to go
Speaker 2: regularly because like I listen to the podcasts and people
Speaker 2: talk about like I remember the girl who went to
Speaker 2: Pinball Club, like a older episode, and it was just
Speaker 2: inspiring me where it's like I'll go and I'll go regularly,
Speaker 2: Like I listen. I think one of the episodes, maybe
Speaker 2: a week or two ago, there was a kid who
Speaker 2: was like his first year of college and he was
Speaker 2: two weeks in. He's like, I'm not making any friends.
Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I stand by it that you
Speaker 2: have to be regularly at a space for a year
Speaker 2: to really get comfortable. Yeah, totally had the community, but
Speaker 2: I moved. I've been in the same state for my
Speaker 2: whole life, but I left my last job and moved
Speaker 2: to the area that I'm at now in October of
Speaker 2: last year. So it's been almost a year living here
Speaker 2: and I'm rock climbing regularly. And I have like some
Speaker 2: friends from it. Now I'm actually going to Warp Tour
Speaker 2: with two of my rock climbing friends cool November.
Speaker 1: So climbing friends also like super Ripped.
Speaker 2: No, I'm actually because I have the strength background, I'm
Speaker 2: naturally stronger than a lot of them, which does feel
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I will say, uh, it has. It's very
Speaker 2: helpful to be a lifter in a lot of aspects
Speaker 2: of life, to be honest.
Speaker 1: That other what other aspects?
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: One interesting thing is that at the gym I go to,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of it's a big gym, and
Speaker 2: there's this one woman that I met. She's a mother,
Speaker 2: she's probably in her fifties. She's like in perimenopause and menopause,
Speaker 2: and she taught. She posts things openly about that on Instagram.
Speaker 2: She talks about it. And I know. The biggest thing
Speaker 2: is that because I have this like s fitness habit
Speaker 2: that I've built, I eat really healthy too. I actually
Speaker 2: got a nutrition coach recently. Uh so I eat really healthy.
Speaker 2: I prioritize my sleep and it helps being with someone
Speaker 2: who prioritizes their sleep. But I feel good pretty much
Speaker 2: most of the days, aside from when I'm super sore
Speaker 2: from training. I sleep pretty good. I don't drink either.
Speaker 2: I haven't actually had any alcohol since New Year's two
Speaker 2: years ago now, And I just it's cool to be
Speaker 2: able to have a habit where I feel pretty good
Speaker 2: a lot of the time. And I feel like, only
Speaker 2: not all the time, because I'm kind of an anxious
Speaker 2: person too, but I feel like having this fitness habit
Speaker 2: allows me to like think pretty clearly, to be able
Speaker 2: to have good control of like how I'm feeling. And
Speaker 2: I know my anxious thoughts get worse when I'm more
Speaker 2: tired or I'm not being mindful of my ChIL to
Speaker 2: the point of the menipausting to the thing that women
Speaker 2: who actually study that say, and you're older is yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm talking to the gecko.
Speaker 1: Who is that?
Speaker 2: That's my boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's that is it?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Did he just walk in?
Speaker 2: She just walked in? He just went on a walk.
Speaker 2: We went to a restaurant after my show, and we
Speaker 2: each ate nachos and boff wings and our own respective meals,
Speaker 2: and we each got a dessert.
Speaker 1: Are those all? Are those all the foods that you
Speaker 1: like can't have while you're like leading up to this.
Speaker 2: It's funny, actually is you can kind of eat stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Like there's if you're ever in a diet.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, if you ever a diet where you
Speaker 2: have to cut out food, then it's not sustainable. I'm
Speaker 2: not really putent free and you can't.
Speaker 1: Have wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. That doesn't
Speaker 1: make any don't all diets involve cutting out food.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's moderation. So I, for instance, the girl
Speaker 2: that's my nutrition coach, one of the snacks that I'll
Speaker 2: get on my rock climbing day before I go to bed,
Speaker 2: my last meal is and Okay, it sounds kind of lame,
Speaker 2: but it's really good rice cakes with peanut butter and
Speaker 2: mini chocolate chips. That sounds oh my god, dude, it's
Speaker 2: so good. But I just to tie up the last
Speaker 2: way too, Like when women get older, they like their
Speaker 2: estrogen levels just like shoot down and their hormones get
Speaker 2: all out of whack. And the best thing you can
Speaker 2: do when you're older and like in that stage your
Speaker 2: life is lift weight, eat proteins, leap, drink water like
Speaker 2: all that stuff that I'm kind of doing now. So
Speaker 2: I feel like because I have this happen now. I
Speaker 2: know it's gonna help in the long run, but also
Speaker 2: I feel like it helps me manage my emotions and
Speaker 2: I I haven't talked to people a lot of I
Speaker 2: don't really know how to phrase it, but I feel
Speaker 2: like I have a pretty good head on my shoulders
Speaker 2: and it helps a lot because I strength train regularly.
Speaker 2: And also too, I have a community. I think that's
Speaker 2: a big thing that a lot of people miss in
Speaker 2: in like the modern day. Is like when you go
Speaker 2: to a place regularly, like we were just saying, go
Speaker 2: to the gym regularly, you see the same people and
Speaker 2: you kind of build a community there. And gym people
Speaker 2: are kind of like people who do strength sports. They're
Speaker 2: kind of very similar people. So it's easy to say
Speaker 2: hi to people and chat about it. And I can
Speaker 2: be like an awkward person, but to be able to
Speaker 2: ask someone like, oh, are you like training for a show?
Speaker 2: Like what events are you doing? And like we're all
Speaker 2: kind of in similar boats, so y'all kind of get it.
Speaker 1: So you did the show today, Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: You say that a lot of people in the strong
Speaker 1: man community feel as though it's gone downhill because they're
Speaker 1: not as, Uh, my understanding of what you said is
Speaker 1: that the kind of like there's less showmanship, right, Can
Speaker 1: I ask you?
Speaker 3: Oh so sorry?
Speaker 1: Go ahead go aheah ahead.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I misrepresented it. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's a common sentiment among all people. That's
Speaker 2: just my perspective.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so okues, So that's a perfect, perfect perfect.
Speaker 1: So if that's your perspective, what do you think, like,
Speaker 1: what give me some good like challenges that that you
Speaker 1: think they should add, like fucking like picking up big
Speaker 1: barrels of water and throwing them down, Like what do
Speaker 1: you think they should they should add to the strong
Speaker 1: man competition if you could add any kind of challenge.
Speaker 2: So the first thing that comes to mind is that
Speaker 2: I follow I follow a lot of athletes on Instagram,
Speaker 2: and there was somebody post to show where most of
Speaker 2: the events were in water. So it's like one event
Speaker 2: was picking up a log and pressing it overhead for
Speaker 2: rest in water, and then another was tearing like a tub.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a big a drum filled with
Speaker 2: water and carrying that around. I think it's just like
Speaker 2: it's stupid, you know, actually too. The last show I
Speaker 2: did it was a kilted show. Everybody wore a kilt
Speaker 2: and it was a rent fare and so we were
Speaker 2: in kind of like the horse trough, kind of where
Speaker 2: they do the jeffs, same kind of area. And so
Speaker 2: there was one event, and this one you might have
Speaker 2: to look up to kind of see. It's hard to explain,
Speaker 2: but it's called a single finger something that's such weird names.
Speaker 2: But the single finger is you kind of pick up
Speaker 2: this I think of a stick that is stuck to
Speaker 2: a pivot point, really big stick, and so you pick
Speaker 2: up from one end and you kind of get it
Speaker 2: up to your chest and then push it above your
Speaker 2: head and you kind of walk your hands under it
Speaker 2: to push the stick to fall on the other side.
Speaker 2: That's the That's the way I can explain it. You
Speaker 2: might just have to look it up, but that's a
Speaker 2: cool event to watch people do. There was one where
Speaker 2: it was the the wagon of pain they called it,
Speaker 2: where you pick up a sandbag and load in a wagon,
Speaker 2: pick them another loaded the wagon that picks another load
Speaker 2: in and then you carry the wagon down at distance.
Speaker 2: And that one doesn't look cool too. Those are the
Speaker 2: ones I remember, but I thought that one was cool.
Speaker 2: And that's why I signed up for it, was because
Speaker 2: it was at a rent there and like it's kind
Speaker 2: of a spectacle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, m.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I wanted to ask your what are the
Speaker 1: so what are the numbers for you? Like, what's your
Speaker 1: what's your I would love to hear a rundown of
Speaker 1: the stats, like what's your bench?
Speaker 2: So I actually don't really bench anymore, but I did
Speaker 2: a power listing meat last year and I benched one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds the enough that I've deadlifted.
Speaker 2: That one's cooler. The most I've deadlifted is three hundred
Speaker 2: eighty pounds.
Speaker 1: WHOA, that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then squat too. I don't really do
Speaker 2: that one as much, but when I did it last year,
Speaker 2: I squatted to sixty so they yeah, the numbers for
Speaker 2: it's hard to say numbers for strong man stuff because
Speaker 2: it's you're never really going for like a heavy single.
Speaker 2: But like I did an event today that was cool too.
Speaker 2: It was I picked up a sandbag that weighs as
Speaker 2: much as me, like one hundred and fifty pounds, and
Speaker 2: then you know, like keg, like you put beer in it.
Speaker 2: I picked up that one and that weighed one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty five pounds and I carried it, and then
Speaker 2: I picked up an Atlas stone which also it was
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five pounds and tried to carry
Speaker 2: that one. But it was cool though, because they like
Speaker 2: split up the group everybody was competing today into two
Speaker 2: groups to make it go with it faster, and I
Speaker 2: picked up I was like the second, the last person
Speaker 2: to go for that event. So like all these guys,
Speaker 2: you know, some of them were like in their fifties
Speaker 2: and stuff, and like they were carrying less than meet
Speaker 2: like hot shit, but yeah, thank you. But as far
Speaker 2: as specific weights to give, I guess the last show
Speaker 2: I did, there was an event where it was you know,
Speaker 2: like a beer cake. Literally one of them is like
Speaker 2: carrying a keg. It was a two hundred pound keg
Speaker 2: and I put it over a bar that was at
Speaker 2: like forty five inches tall like I'm five but two,
Speaker 2: so it was maybe like forty two inches high, I think,
Speaker 2: And I did that I think four times. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's hard to like explain these numbers and
Speaker 2: like know if other people like know what that feels like,
Speaker 2: but it's it's I think the coolest part of it
Speaker 2: for me is that the stuff that I'm doing next
Speaker 2: year is stuff that I never thought I would be doing.
Speaker 2: You know, like I now my voice is shaky. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's so surreal, but it's just I think
Speaker 2: I've been really excited because, Yeah, the stuff that I'm
Speaker 2: doing next year is the stuff that I've been standing
Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen, like working.
Speaker 1: Towards you know, interesting what you never thought that you
Speaker 1: would make it into what is it called federation?
Speaker 2: Well, there's different federations. It's more I never thought that
Speaker 2: I would be doing a qualifier to go to World
Speaker 2: for a strong Man and like I'm going to have
Speaker 2: you ever heard of the Arnold?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: No? Is that based off of chart?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Is that based off the Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fitness expo and in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else there is in Ohio, but
Speaker 2: there's a fit It's a fitness expo. So it's like
Speaker 2: all the strength sports that kind of come together and
Speaker 2: it's like it's one of the top sport strong man
Speaker 2: shows for people that besides the super heavyweight men. And
Speaker 2: I'm going to that too. In March. That's a plan anyway,
Speaker 2: unless the events kind of stinker. If it's too expensive,
Speaker 2: then I probably won't. But I think I'm been saving
Speaker 2: my money. I think I can go, And the fact
Speaker 2: that I'm going to it is like I never thought
Speaker 2: I'd be able to go, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Mmmmm, what's the what is the demographic? Like who's in
Speaker 1: the audience for these shows? I'm curious, like, who are
Speaker 1: the what's the demographic of people that attend?
Speaker 2: So the one that I did, it's mostly friends and family.
Speaker 2: It's the people who compete, it's the people who help out,
Speaker 2: and then it's friends and family. So my mom and
Speaker 2: my stepdad actually came to watch, very nice and my
Speaker 2: mom she's, oh my god, she's weighs as much as me,
Speaker 2: but she's like six inches taller than me. She's skin
Speaker 2: and bone, she's sixty. She's sixty years old, literally osteoporotic.
Speaker 2: And she's like, she said, she felt so out of
Speaker 2: place because you know, we're doing this stuff when we're
Speaker 2: like all shouting and rah rah. But you know she
Speaker 2: was there too, and there are other like parents and
Speaker 2: stuff there, and that's typically who it is, even at
Speaker 2: a bigger show, it's comprised of the athletes, the couple
Speaker 2: people who help out, and then maybe some other athletes
Speaker 2: who go to that gym and are interested in it.
Speaker 2: But then in other ways it's friends and family. So
Speaker 2: if you ever watch a high level strong man show
Speaker 2: like the audience, I mean, for like World's Strongest Man,
Speaker 2: that's like one of the biggest ones, and Matt has
Speaker 2: other people, but for ones that aren't as well known
Speaker 2: but are still big, it's usually friends and family.
Speaker 1: Who's the like World's Strongest woman? Right now? Do we
Speaker 1: have a do we have eyes on that?
Speaker 2: The name that comes to mind for me, there's this
Speaker 2: woman named Nnez I am easy. I think she might
Speaker 2: be the strongest in her weight class. There is this
Speaker 2: woman whose name I can't think of her name, but
Speaker 2: she's she's I think.
Speaker 1: From Oh is it para Kara Squill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's definitely one of the top strongest athletes. The
Speaker 2: strongest people. It's mass move mass, so the strongest people
Speaker 2: are gonna be the heavyweights and the super heavyweights. Like
Speaker 2: I can name the strongest people like in my weight class.
Speaker 2: But I guess to give you some perspective too, I
Speaker 2: am a typically one hundred and forty five pound woman.
Speaker 2: When I do a weight cut into like a competitive
Speaker 2: weight class, I'm about one hundred and forty one pounds,
Speaker 2: and at one hundred and forty one pounds, there are
Speaker 2: women who are deadlifting four hundred and five hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane. So people are just nutty strong nowadays.
Speaker 1: I got a fitness question for you. It's not really
Speaker 1: a fitness question. We're just like, okay, when people do
Speaker 1: like squats. There's this thing that gives me tons of
Speaker 1: anxiety when I see it at the gym where people
Speaker 1: do squats and they're carrying all of the fucking weight
Speaker 1: of the thing, not like with their They're not like
Speaker 1: grabbing it with their shoulders, like they're on their fingertips,
Speaker 1: you know, like they carry it all on their finger
Speaker 1: to you know, what I'm talking about is like, is.
Speaker 2: The bar on their collar bone?
Speaker 1: I may possibly possibly maybe I think it's like on
Speaker 1: their yeah, like on their back, on their neck maybe,
Speaker 1: and they're just carrying it all with their fingertips, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And their hand their fucking hands are like
Speaker 1: curled all the way back.
Speaker 2: Is that just like a regular squat? But people have
Speaker 2: their hands bent really far back. I might know what
Speaker 2: you're talking.
Speaker 1: About, I think, so, I mean I might just be stupid, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, if I'm picturing the right, some people
Speaker 2: just have really good wrist flexibility. Some people, how do
Speaker 2: I say, Yeah, I mean that's just the way some
Speaker 2: people squat. Some people squat with their legs super wide
Speaker 2: out and have their hands bent really really far back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it allows them to have the bar
Speaker 2: sit lower on their on their upper back. So I'm
Speaker 2: not this is kind of out of my wheelhouse. But I,
Speaker 2: for instance, for my body shape, I have like longer thighs,
Speaker 2: and so when I squat, I kind of will bend
Speaker 2: over versus some people, like you can squat really upright
Speaker 2: if they have like shorter thighs, and so there are
Speaker 2: people if you squat, if you lean over more forward
Speaker 2: as you're squatting, and the bar bell is further down
Speaker 2: on your back, like on your upper back, and your
Speaker 2: hands are bed further, then that's little engineering. It's it's
Speaker 2: a smaller lever arm, so it's a little bit easier
Speaker 2: to move versus if it were higher up on your
Speaker 2: upper back. I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense,
Speaker 2: But it's like it's the distance between the bar and
Speaker 2: your hips is a little bit closer, so it's a
Speaker 2: little bit easier to lift. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: exactly the way to explain it.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I just as long as I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna, as long as you didn't say because
Speaker 1: they're crazy and why then No.
Speaker 2: We'stening regularly. We're not crazy and wild. They go to
Speaker 2: bed at nine thirty pm. They don't drink beer or
Speaker 2: like once a month. You know they're not crazy.
Speaker 1: So well, let me think here, what's next for you?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Do you tell me your name?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's Rochelle, Rochelle.
Speaker 1: What's next for you? Rochelle? I guess so you're gonna
Speaker 1: You're you're going out for Worlds. That'll be cool. When
Speaker 1: is that again?
Speaker 2: So the qualifying show I'm doing, it's in Jersey in
Speaker 2: mid January, and if I do well in that, then
Speaker 2: Worlds would be in August of next year. Presumably it
Speaker 2: was in August of this year, so I think it
Speaker 2: would be in August next year. And then I'm doing
Speaker 2: the Arnold two, which is in March, and after that,
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I'll kind of figure it out after,
Speaker 2: but those are plans right now. M.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's really cool. I'm excited for you. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think if H, well, I guess before we go,
Speaker 1: is there anything else you want the people to know
Speaker 1: about women's strong men strong man competitions, those conceptions you
Speaker 1: want to clear up.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's a misconception, but I don't even
Speaker 2: think it is. The people who go to the gym regularly,
Speaker 2: or the guys, especially who looks big and scary, they're
Speaker 2: typically the nicest people. And if you see someone like
Speaker 2: in there all the time and lifting heavy, and you
Speaker 2: ever have a question about like oh I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know how to squat, or like I need help
Speaker 2: with ben, you give me a spot, like they would
Speaker 2: be more than happy too. They'd be more than happy
Speaker 2: to talk about it and give tips because it's all
Speaker 2: we do. You know, it's our only hobby. So people
Speaker 2: who are like that, they're super nice and they would
Speaker 2: love to help you. You never have to like worry
Speaker 2: people are watching you at the gym, because they're really
Speaker 2: unless you're like in their cocky and like telling people like,
Speaker 2: oh this is whatever if you're like trying, Like I
Speaker 2: always have respect for the people who are like clearly
Speaker 2: trying and a guy who's lifting like the bar bell
Speaker 2: because he's new to it, or like someone who's overweight
Speaker 2: and like clearly like is uncomfortable being there. Like, I
Speaker 2: think that's great. And most people who do fitness to
Speaker 2: the level that I do, they feel the same with.
Speaker 1: Oh my other question, but what's the what's the like
Speaker 1: like the other women who participate in the competitions? Do
Speaker 1: you become friends with them? Are they the kinds of
Speaker 1: people you you would want to hang out with?
Speaker 2: I honestly, it's interesting. I don't really hang out with
Speaker 2: a lot of like the gym people outside of the gym,
Speaker 2: but I would. I don't know. I guess I just
Speaker 2: kind of I don't hang up. I don't I guess
Speaker 2: I would simple question, simple answer your question as I would.
Speaker 2: It's hard to break that barrier with like gym going people.
Speaker 2: But actually the people that I hung out with after
Speaker 2: my competition today were people that I met in the gym.
Speaker 2: So I think it's just I don't know. Sometime real
Speaker 2: think about I guess trying to like ask them more
Speaker 2: like if they want to hang outside of the gym.
Speaker 1: Rochelle, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: No, I just it's so cool that have finally got
Speaker 2: on and were listening to you so long. Your podcast
Speaker 2: is great. It's it's really I guess for you. It's
Speaker 2: just I know people tell you like what you're doing
Speaker 2: is it's it's good. I'm trying to find my words,
Speaker 2: but it really is. It's really helpful to hear perspectives
Speaker 2: of a variety of people. I loved that guys story.
Speaker 2: I know I'm talking a lot mo Yeah, no, don't know.
Speaker 2: Just the train Hopper guys fascinating you is so nice.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's listening to this too, but
Speaker 2: I hope he knows. Like I agree with the Spotify
Speaker 2: Covins too, like, yeah, he clearly loves his daughter and
Speaker 2: he's I just love hearing different people's stories and makes
Speaker 2: the world feel a lot smaller and it really does
Speaker 2: help me know that. Like like you say too, I
Speaker 2: don't know anything. I don't know anything about people, but
Speaker 2: I love learning about their experiences. I love It's just
Speaker 2: it's cool that I got to get on, especially too.
Speaker 2: When I see like your personal hobbies of like traveling
Speaker 2: and making that part of your work and interviewing people,
Speaker 2: it seems like that strange to take off. So I'm
Speaker 2: excited to see how that goes for you. I will
Speaker 2: be whatever is like, we'll be watching your career whatever.
Speaker 1: Like, thank you, Rochelle, No, thank you.
Speaker 3: Know.
Speaker 1: I'm touched that so many people have been felt connected
Speaker 1: to that particular episode, because yeah, it really touched me too.
Speaker 1: It's cool to see. I'm very happy that that got
Speaker 1: the kind of response that I think that that guy's
Speaker 1: story warranted. And thank you for talking about this. This
Speaker 1: was This was a very fun one and a sea
Speaker 1: of this was cool. I feel like, in a cee
Speaker 1: of a lot of you know, heavy stuff, it's nice
Speaker 1: to just like chat about a fun, cool, interesting thing
Speaker 1: that someone does as part of their life. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on and talking about this.
Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. Oh I guess too, if people
Speaker 2: I can throw out my Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, sure please.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to become a big name instrum man.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be an influencer, but I love
Speaker 2: that people have questions about fitness and want to like
Speaker 2: for me my Instagram handle, Well, yeah, my Instagram handle
Speaker 2: is Roe Shambau nine five like r O s h
Speaker 2: a m b oh ro Shambo. I'm Rochelle, Yeah, Rochelle.
Speaker 1: Yes, trust me, I'm an engineer. Oh this is you.
Speaker 1: This is you with your ripped boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yes, he he. When I make my next post, I
Speaker 2: got him a shirt that says a super hot cougar
Speaker 2: stole my heart anywhere? Is that? Because I think it's cute.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I hope this isn't weird considering the context. But
Speaker 1: you guys have crazy calves.
Speaker 2: Thank you. No, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love them.
Speaker 2: People like like I've had girls at the gym sy like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like you your quads are huge, and like.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh this is I see this is what the I'm
Speaker 1: looking at through a little carousel and I see the
Speaker 1: little the post the oh, holy shoe way is that you?
Speaker 1: Oh holy fuck, dude, you're you look like you're about
Speaker 1: to Oh my god, this is you deadlifting? Uh damn.
Speaker 1: That's Cray with the guy in the beard in the background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three forty five.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that looks that looks terrifying. Honestly, that looks
Speaker 1: like like I look at this and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: look it looks like I mean, and you're professionals obviously
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, but I'm like, damn, if I
Speaker 1: tried to do this shit, my back would just fucking
Speaker 1: go be destroyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your your reaction is the same as my mom.
Speaker 2: She gets very scared to see me left. But you know,
Speaker 2: you do it for long enough, and you stay open
Speaker 2: to feedback from people, and anybody can do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if anyone has questions ever about fitness or anything,
Speaker 2: you can just like message me and I can do
Speaker 2: my best to answer. I feel like sometimes that's what
Speaker 2: people need.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you where on your profile picture with
Speaker 1: pulling this truck with an American flag in the background.
Speaker 1: It's pretty epic.
Speaker 2: My dad recorded that video too, and it's just funny
Speaker 2: because he didn't get the truck until like at the
Speaker 2: very end, I think.
Speaker 1: Oh, he just was like he just recorded you holding
Speaker 1: the rope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was great. My dad moved, but he
Speaker 2: came to every single show I had before and every
Speaker 2: power every single one before you moved. So I appreciated
Speaker 2: that a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for calling. Rochelle. I wish you good
Speaker 1: luck in qualifying for worlds.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and good luck in all your trips too.
Speaker 1: See you around the universe. Dude. M hm, take care bybershell. Ye,
Speaker 1: that was a fun one that felt like a very
Speaker 1: classic therapy Gecko phone call.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm looking through this this woman's instagram. This is this
Speaker 1: like strong Man. She has all these photos of her
Speaker 1: strong Man shit row Chambeau one n. Yeah, this looks crazy.
Speaker 1: This looks like I feel myself in pain just watching
Speaker 1: her do this stuff. Yeah, with look at this with
Speaker 1: the drum, the big fucking oh holy fuck, dude, she's
Speaker 1: picking up this giant like bean bag and like bending
Speaker 1: herself all the that's crazy. She's like, that's crazy. Holy shit.
Speaker 1: She's like bending herself all the way backwards to hold
Speaker 1: up this barrel and then just like powers back forward.
Speaker 1: That's insane. Damn. Shout out, shout out to Rochelle. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just the get Yeah, who is this?
Speaker 3: Oh? This is Elias Elias.
Speaker 1: Elias Elias. You texted me and you said I want
Speaker 1: to talk about my root beer collection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just text you right now. I just got
Speaker 3: a place with no connection. But I tried calling you
Speaker 3: tricking after I got off of work. But then I
Speaker 3: went to this place with no connection, and then I
Speaker 3: think I might have lost you.
Speaker 1: But none of that matters now, Elios, none of that matters. Now.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this root beer collection.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I've been building a root beer collection. I'm
Speaker 3: only twenty one, so I've been building a re sellection
Speaker 3: for like three years, four years now. I mean I
Speaker 3: tried everywhere I go, I try to find a bottle
Speaker 3: of root beer. I went to Well, so far, I've
Speaker 3: only went to places in California, but I went to Hawaii.
Speaker 3: I tried to find one there, and I don't think
Speaker 3: they sell the right type of the ingredients to make
Speaker 3: a good root beer there, or so I heard. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I have a picture of my collection, but
Speaker 3: I would just have to show you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you text that to me?
Speaker 3: Tractice? Uh, Now I need to find it.
Speaker 1: What's the most prized aspect of your collection?
Speaker 3: My most tried aspect? It's just that, I mean I
Speaker 3: only have.
Speaker 1: Like or I'm sorry I said that wrong. The most
Speaker 1: prized item.
Speaker 3: Oh, I had, Well, I think my favorite. My favorite
Speaker 3: is the Dad's The Dad's root beer. You ever tried
Speaker 3: that one?
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, So I've never had I've never had
Speaker 1: Dad's root beer. But when I was in high school
Speaker 1: on Amazon, I once ordered like a hundred Dads root
Speaker 1: Beer barrel candies and so I've had like tons, Like
Speaker 1: I would just find loose root beer barrel candies in
Speaker 1: my backpack all the time because of how many of them.
Speaker 1: I just like took me to school and ship. I've
Speaker 1: never had actual Dad's root beer, though, Is it any good? Oh?
Speaker 3: Dude? Every time there's I mean, we haven't had a
Speaker 3: Dad's great, but every time I.
Speaker 1: Go there, Sorry you cut out for a second. Would
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 3: Every time I go to the Little Sandwich.
Speaker 1: I always get it and oh, we're losing you.
Speaker 3: Refrigerator with Dad's root beer. I'm grabbing it. That's how
Speaker 3: good it is.
Speaker 1: Okay, every time you go to a sandwich shop you
Speaker 1: get it. That's how good it is. Okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Okay, what's the root what's the what's
Speaker 1: the worst. What's the worst root beer that you've had?
Speaker 3: Okay? So I went to this candy shop my local mall,
Speaker 3: and there was one called Rats root beer. It is
Speaker 3: like Rats and I tried it. It tastes it tasted
Speaker 3: like like super watery. Uh you had like when you
Speaker 3: drink from a water fountain. It's just it's just straight
Speaker 3: up syrup. Yeah, that's what. That's what that one's chased like.
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Okay, rank these one to three, A
Speaker 1: and W, barks, mug.
Speaker 3: Okay, now we're talking about the real the roof. So
Speaker 3: if you have bark in between those three, if you
Speaker 3: have barks in two or one the spirit, then that's
Speaker 3: the worst stigion of your life.
Speaker 1: Because okay, so bars barks is the worst.
Speaker 3: Barks is definitely the worst for sure. And then I
Speaker 3: go A and W. But me and my brother dude,
Speaker 3: we every every time we go to like a soda
Speaker 3: falon and they don't mug. Dude, I mean, I still
Speaker 3: drink the root beer, but if they don't have mug,
Speaker 3: I mean I give it like a.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're a mug guy. Automatically, you're a mug guy.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely I'm definitely a mug guy.
Speaker 1: For I'm with you. I'm also a mug guy. I
Speaker 1: just like the dog. I don't know why, but something
Speaker 1: about looking at the dog while I'm drinking the root
Speaker 1: beer makes the root beer taste different. I don't know
Speaker 1: that much about mug like. I don't know if it,
Speaker 1: if it. I know that A and W. I think
Speaker 1: A and W is like A what's it? What is
Speaker 1: A and W under? I think they're under.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So there's the three. There's the three
Speaker 1: big challengers in the soda beverage industry. There's Pepsi of
Speaker 1: course to Pepsi and mug BrX is owned by Coke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then uh, A and W is hold on, I
Speaker 1: think a NWS by like Snapple. Let me let me
Speaker 1: look at this an W. Yeah, A n W is
Speaker 1: under doctor Pepper, doctor Pepper. I think doctor Yeah, Curig,
Speaker 1: Curig Curig doctor Pepper is a publicly traded Oh I
Speaker 1: didn't know that they merged. Okay, Curig doctor Pepper. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. Okay, it used to be the doctor
Speaker 1: Pepper Snapple group, and now it is the Curig doctor
Speaker 1: Pepper group. So the doctor Pepper people, the Pepsi people,
Speaker 1: and the Cola and the Coca Cola people are the
Speaker 1: main competitors in the space, and they all have their
Speaker 1: own root beer and I agree that I think mug
Speaker 1: is the best of those. Oh I got I have.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. What are what's your
Speaker 1: opinion on root beer floats? How do you like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a vanilla ice cream in your root beer?
Speaker 3: Honestly, that's like saying, like putting a cherry on top,
Speaker 3: you know, No, you always put like cherries on top
Speaker 3: of like a like a cat take or something.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just got the photo. I just got the photo.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, there's so many people in here that I'm
Speaker 1: not okay, hold on, wait let me sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, it's got kind of.
Speaker 3: So this is this is not my full root beer
Speaker 3: collection I put it. I haven't taken a picture of
Speaker 3: my my fullest one, Like the Rats one is not
Speaker 3: on there. But this is like maybe a year ago,
Speaker 3: but I added maybe another stack on top of that.
Speaker 1: This is awesome. Okay, I've had I'm gonna go through
Speaker 1: the ones I've had. Okay, you've got IBC. That one's
Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't know if I've had the IBC
Speaker 1: root beer. But I've definitely had the IBC cream Soda.
Speaker 1: That ship's really good. Henry Wine Hard's, I've never had that. Stuarts.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a sleeper pick. Yes, Stuart's. Stuarts has
Speaker 1: an amazing orange creamsicle flavor. Have you ever had?
Speaker 3: I had that? I had that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Balls root beer?
Speaker 3: Okay, that one's my favorite one. Actually, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: my favorite one because I brought it home one day
Speaker 3: and then my brother was like, you're really drinking balls
Speaker 3: right now? And I was like, no, root beer?
Speaker 1: Wait, balls is a Where have I seen this? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: I've seen Balls before as like, uh uh yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen it in like a classy blue soda before. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know they had a root beer. So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know river City. I don't
Speaker 1: know river City. Oh look at this dang butterscotch root beer.
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Tell me about did they have how was.
Speaker 3: The So that one is a little That one's a
Speaker 3: little more on the sweeter side.
Speaker 1: Right, it's got butterscotch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: That one's like probably the most seest one.
Speaker 1: Jackson hole Buckin' root Beer virgils. I've had this one. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Spreker fire brewed root beer.
Speaker 3: They have, They have a couple of different types of those.
Speaker 3: I have like maybe two more of those in that
Speaker 3: new collection.
Speaker 1: Okay, this one the root beer main roots. Where's that
Speaker 1: one from? That looks familiar?
Speaker 3: I got that? Do you know what Lake Lake Tahoe
Speaker 3: in the in the Nevada? Sure, that's where I got
Speaker 3: that one. And it's like, gave me like a forest
Speaker 3: you feel, because I feel because Lake Child was kind
Speaker 3: of like foresty and like I don't know, it's it
Speaker 3: was just like the all the aesthetic around it. And
Speaker 3: I was like, it just like called my name in
Speaker 3: this little little tiny bakery I went too, and I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, grab me.
Speaker 1: I want to backtrack real quick. The dang butterscotch root beer.
Speaker 1: How heavy was the butterscotch? Could you taste the notes?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 3: It was kind of like it was kind of like
Speaker 3: a root beer float, honestly, not like but it had
Speaker 3: like that it had that vanilla e like, oh, you
Speaker 3: know if you there's like this root beer, Oh it's
Speaker 3: it's it's like mug too where you make it like
Speaker 3: kind of like cream it's like root beer. It's like
Speaker 3: the cream style cream soda.
Speaker 1: And what's it called?
Speaker 3: Okay, actually it's just cream soda. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: what it tastes like if you had.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, it just tastes like a regular cream soda.
Speaker 1: All right, we have all right, here's the dads, which,
Speaker 1: as you say, is your favorite. I've never seen Dad's
Speaker 1: root Beer as just like sold in like a play.
Speaker 1: I've just never seen it out and about.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a spot by my house down town,
Speaker 3: and uh, honestly it's pretty good. It's a gig sandwich spot,
Speaker 3: so I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Dad, I'm on the Dad's root Beer website,
Speaker 1: a website I never thought I would ever be on,
Speaker 1: but it seems like they have a butt. Dad's has
Speaker 1: all these whoa dude, holy tits? Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: this before? Dad's old fashioned blue cream Soda? Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen that? I'm not actually Dad's Blue cream Soda,
Speaker 1: it says, it says Dad's Blue Cream Soda is almost
Speaker 1: liquid with cotton candy with very heavy vanilla notes. That
Speaker 1: sounds fucking insane. I'm dude. You can sign up for
Speaker 1: a They have an email list. I'm signing up for
Speaker 1: that they have Yeah, dude, you can write to them.
Speaker 1: Nine to fifty South Saint Charles Street, Jasper, Indiana, four
Speaker 1: seven five four six.
Speaker 3: I'll miss it out.
Speaker 1: They have merch. What do they have on? What's their
Speaker 1: merch situation? You can buy a ooh ooh you see this.
Speaker 1: They have a Dad's root beer mug. Imagine drinking Imagine
Speaker 1: drinking a Dad's root beer out of a Dad's root
Speaker 1: beer mug. That sounds awesome. They have lip bomb. It
Speaker 1: tastes like root beer. That's I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: If this mug you can sell, you can become a
Speaker 1: real itter. Look at this. You can sell dads. Use
Speaker 1: the contact form to reach out to be able to
Speaker 1: sell dads at your location. Okay name, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna fill that out. I don't have anything funny to
Speaker 1: say while I fill that out. But uh, okay, I
Speaker 1: could read the history of Dad's Rutier, but I won't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish your collection. Okay, you have dog and
Speaker 1: what is this one? Say? Dog? And us dog and
Speaker 1: SuDS dog and what dog? And SuDS Dog and SuDS Rutier. Okay,
Speaker 1: how was that that one?
Speaker 3: It was all right, just this is a regular root beer,
Speaker 3: maybe like A and W type. So like all these
Speaker 3: all these root beers bottles I based off my those
Speaker 3: top three that you mentioned earlier, the mug A and
Speaker 3: W and then barks. I rarely, I rarely rate them
Speaker 3: as the bark style. It's usually A and W. But
Speaker 3: like what the wing do the mugs those are like
Speaker 3: like the dads maybe yeah, yeah, I like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've developed your own you've developed your own ranking
Speaker 1: style system where a BARX is a C an, a
Speaker 1: n W is a B and a mug is an A.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then the last one is Sioux City.
Speaker 1: Sioux City. I saw that. I saw Sioux City. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm where do you rank Sioux City?
Speaker 3: That one's an abbie. Actually I had this one when
Speaker 3: I was super drunk one night, and uh so, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe it was a mug back then, but it's probably
Speaker 3: an a wie mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You sober up and you really yeah, you sober up
Speaker 1: and you realize that what you thought was a mug
Speaker 1: is really a Sometimes it can be a box.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I see that you have lego flowers coming out of
Speaker 1: a few of these bottles. I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Jruffer bought them for me, and then I
Speaker 3: had no place to put them, so I chose the
Speaker 3: three bottles that were probably I think I chose these
Speaker 3: because there were mugs. They were the mug rating like
Speaker 3: the virgils, and.
Speaker 1: Then oh, okay you gave you gave literal flowers to
Speaker 1: the mugs. Ranking okay, so Henry all right. So for
Speaker 1: the people who can't see this image, the Henry wine
Speaker 1: Hearts has a flower in it, so that's a mug rating.
Speaker 1: The Virgil has a flower in it, that's a mug grating.
Speaker 1: And then the Dads has a flower in it. So
Speaker 1: those are are those are? Those are three mugs out
Speaker 1: of the whole collection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have a cup. I don't put
Speaker 3: flowers in the I think I have one more mugs,
Speaker 3: but I'm blanking on the name of it. Dude, I
Speaker 3: need to send you that updated picture because they have
Speaker 3: like another stack on top of this one picture.
Speaker 1: Can can you send me that? Can you send me
Speaker 1: that other picture? How far? How so this is from
Speaker 1: a year ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I'm actually coming home from work right now,
Speaker 3: so I don't I'm not in access of my rootbeer
Speaker 3: collection right now, But next time you're live, I'll just
Speaker 3: send you a picture or something.
Speaker 1: So okay, let me count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Okay,
Speaker 1: right now, there's thirteen bottles in this picture. How many
Speaker 1: bottles do you think you have? Now?
Speaker 3: Probably twenty six? Only?
Speaker 1: Shit? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How far away are you from your house right now?
Speaker 3: I about forty minutes?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: All right, Well, yeah, I'll have to send you it later.
Speaker 1: All right, you'll have to send me it later. What's
Speaker 1: the give? What? What's the root beer that you've heard
Speaker 1: of in passing that you have not yet tasted but
Speaker 1: would like to taste one day?
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a good question because it's usually like because
Speaker 3: I'm more of a of a fake type of guy,
Speaker 3: like all my my pet animals I've gotten like from
Speaker 3: like them coming to me. You know. It's like like
Speaker 3: I said earlier about that main room beer, like it
Speaker 3: just called my name. Like as soon as I walk
Speaker 3: to a store, I look in like the soda section
Speaker 3: just to see if they have one. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not just not a lot of my friends are
Speaker 3: a root beer type of guy. Actually, my brother is
Speaker 3: is more. I'm a doctor pepper guy, and uh so
Speaker 3: we don't really see eye to eye. But I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just whenever I see it, I just grab it.
Speaker 3: I don't I haven't had any hurt or I haven't
Speaker 3: heard any I traveled yet.
Speaker 1: So I like that you. I like that you. I
Speaker 1: like that you let fate bring the right routiers to you.
Speaker 3: And that's just a good, uh good lifestyle for me
Speaker 3: at least. I can't speak for everyone, but I like
Speaker 3: that lifestyle as just a person.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel somebody? If someone out
Speaker 1: there wants to start collecting rupier bottles, what advice would
Speaker 1: you give to them?
Speaker 3: Just some I mean, just amongst your travels. Just go
Speaker 3: to the local corner store and just look in the
Speaker 3: soda section. If they don't have any, just you just
Speaker 3: gotta move on. Not much, not so much to it. Also,
Speaker 3: restaurants have them too, sometimes if you ask a routier
Speaker 3: and then you can sometimes ask them for the bottle.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like collecting root beer has given you
Speaker 1: a good perspective on the idea of just moving on
Speaker 1: in general? You know, has it let you be better
Speaker 1: at that? What do you mean, like you know you said,
Speaker 1: if they don't have root beer, then you just move on,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm I guess I'm trying to take
Speaker 1: your root beer collecting and apply it to your broader
Speaker 1: life in some sense. No, actually not really, well then
Speaker 1: never mind.
Speaker 3: What's your name, ages, It's Elias with a.
Speaker 1: Z, Elias, Elias, thank you for sharing this. This has
Speaker 1: been an incredibly enjoyable twenty minutes for me.
Speaker 3: Me toon therapy, get go.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Keep drinking root beer?
Speaker 1: Beautiful? Thank you, Elias.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That was That was incredibly enjoyable for me, folks. I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to end the podcast today by reading
Speaker 1: a few emails. I like that I've gotten a little
Speaker 1: drip in of of GEK mails and I figured I
Speaker 1: would read a few of them. I'll also talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about my trip to Iraq. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm going to do a whole thing about it,
Speaker 1: but it was really it was amazing. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was so un like what my expectations were of what
Speaker 1: it would be like. That's the main thing I want
Speaker 1: to say. I'll say everything that I really want to
Speaker 1: say when the video is out, because that's it's gonna
Speaker 1: take me a full month to edit it, at least
Speaker 1: a month at least, So I'm aiming for like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm aiming for like the very beginning of November to
Speaker 1: get the full video out there. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was great. People were so fucking nice to us.
Speaker 1: Like the very first day we were there, these like
Speaker 1: two police officers holding like big ass AK forty seven's
Speaker 1: just like came up to us and they were like,
Speaker 1: where are you guys from, how you guys doing? Welcome
Speaker 1: to Iraq, and then they gave us some SIGs and
Speaker 1: then one of them like invited us to get lunch
Speaker 1: with him and his mom. We had we just had
Speaker 1: interactions like that all the time, where like I don't know,
Speaker 1: people would just be really chill and really respectful and
Speaker 1: really uh really really nice. I wish I could. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that I went and I and I took a
Speaker 1: bunch of video because I'm kind of shit about explaining
Speaker 1: it with my words, but yeah, it was a great time.
Speaker 1: Please please go somebscribe to YouTube dot com slash lyle
Speaker 1: forever so that when I post the video in a
Speaker 1: month you can see it because it's it's it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things I've I've done in my gecko career. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's read a few emails and then we'll get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here, all right. This is from Ali
Speaker 1: subject line af af fantasia. Am I saying this correctly?
Speaker 1: Afantasia fanta Okay? Hi Lyle. I wanted to email because
Speaker 1: I recently learned I have something called afantasia and inability
Speaker 1: to form mental images, and it's been a crazy revelation
Speaker 1: for me. I never realized I was missing something until now.
Speaker 1: When I imagine things, I don't see them, I feel their
Speaker 1: presence or I know certain facts about them. If I
Speaker 1: picture a forest, I can tell you how quiet or
Speaker 1: loud it might be, how tall the trees are, how
Speaker 1: the evening sun paints an orange. But none of that
Speaker 1: is an image. It's more like a list of facts
Speaker 1: that my mind creates. Interestingly, I do see things in
Speaker 1: my dreams, sometimes very clearly, and sometimes when I'm between
Speaker 1: being awake and asleep, I'll catch moments of imagery and
Speaker 1: what I assume is the way other people see their
Speaker 1: thoughts all the time. Interesting, I've been thinking about this
Speaker 1: a lot lately, I feel spiteful that others have this
Speaker 1: skill and I don't. I'm really tired at the time
Speaker 1: of writing this, so I'm sorry if I sound insane.
Speaker 1: Afantasia isn't something I like to talk about to people
Speaker 1: in real life, but I'd love to hear your perspective.
Speaker 1: How do you see in your head? Thanks for reading this.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. That part about like how I part about, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can almost catch a glimpse of what a thought
Speaker 1: might feel like when I dream, but it's like elusive.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. How do I see in my head?
Speaker 1: I'm imagining boobs right now, but they they're like cartoon.
Speaker 1: I'm imagining that. It's like when I try to imagine
Speaker 1: boobs is like a painting of it. Okay, I just
Speaker 1: did it. I just imagined like a normal, like human boobs,
Speaker 1: but it felt like a wickied. It felt like I
Speaker 1: was looking at like the Wikipedia page for boobs. It
Speaker 1: was a very non sexual image. Anything I could tell
Speaker 1: you about how I see in my head would be
Speaker 1: it would be fake because I'd be trying, like right,
Speaker 1: like if I try to, like not like when I
Speaker 1: like naturally imagine things, because I'm like trying to imagine something.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm trying to imagine like a gecko. I'm
Speaker 1: imagining the gecko lizard emojive. I can see it. This
Speaker 1: is a weird exercise to do right now. This feels
Speaker 1: kind of achadelic. I feel like I'm like entering and
Speaker 1: exiting my head because yeah, I can see it. I
Speaker 1: know what it feels like to imagine something. I guess
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. Is this a real condition?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're lying, but I'm JUSTO, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Okay, I'm googling it. Affantasia is
Speaker 1: the inability to form or access mental images in one's mind,
Speaker 1: often referred to as lacking a mind's eye. The phenomenon
Speaker 1: was first described by Francis Galton in eighteen eighty. Who
Speaker 1: the hell was this guy? Francis Galton? He's dead now,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. That's the only thing I have
Speaker 1: to say about him. I mean, it's not the only thing.
Speaker 1: He invented fanta and he's dead. He died in nineteen eleven.
Speaker 1: That's one hundred years ago. At least. He's known for
Speaker 1: regression towards the mean. Okay, we can stop reading about
Speaker 1: this guy. Thank you for sharing this. Ali. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is from Let's see. This is from Cherry. Subject line
Speaker 1: the void made me send this. Hi, Lyle, my name
Speaker 1: is Cherry, and I don't really know how to start
Speaker 1: this without sounding either incredibly self important or totally unhinged.
Speaker 1: Maybe both. I've listened to your show for a few
Speaker 1: years now, mostly at work, but also sometimes on long
Speaker 1: drives when I want to hear someone else speak fluently
Speaker 1: to the void. I know this is strange. I know
Speaker 1: I am strange, but I also know myself well enough
Speaker 1: to trust when I feel something important. And this feels
Speaker 1: important in the way weird things often do. I think
Speaker 1: we might be the same kind of person, whatever that means.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be dramatic. It's just the way
Speaker 1: you talk, the way your thoughts loop and land and
Speaker 1: reach sideways into the absurd and intimate at the same time.
Speaker 1: That is how I think. That's how I feel and navigate.
Speaker 1: Like we both tuned into the same haunted radio station
Speaker 1: and decided to keep listening. That's very poetic. This is
Speaker 1: let's keep going anyway. I'm rambling, I'm nervous, I definitely
Speaker 1: smoked a bowler two. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for anything, not trying to get on
Speaker 1: the show. I just don't often find my flavor of
Speaker 1: weird reflected in other people, and I guess I wanted
Speaker 1: to let you know that I exist somewhere out here,
Speaker 1: not expecting a reply, but also kind of hoping for one.
Speaker 1: Not a fan of talking on the phone, but maybe
Speaker 1: in the next life we can talk on the phone
Speaker 1: for approximately seven to thirty minutes. It's nice that she
Speaker 1: clocked exactly how much time most people here spend on
Speaker 1: the show talking. It's approximately seven to thirty minutes. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being one of the few people who makes you
Speaker 1: feel like less of an anomaly. PS. So sorry, I
Speaker 1: just reread that email. But fuck, are we ball Cherry?
Speaker 1: How do I respond to this? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that weird of an email. I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't think it's that particularly star. I don't
Speaker 1: think you would listen to the show. I think it's
Speaker 1: a legitimate reason to want to like to listen to like.
Speaker 1: When I think about like podcasts I listen to, or
Speaker 1: comedians I like, and things like that, I guess I do.
Speaker 1: I appreciate them because they have a similar I feel like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can see myself in this person's brain,
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's this is weird. You know
Speaker 1: this makes sense. I don't know if I have a
Speaker 1: good response to it, although I guess I just did respond.
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing all right, Cherry. It was very
Speaker 1: pigh like this. I like, I know that you feel
Speaker 1: weird about this email, but it's poetic. I like it.
Speaker 1: We both tuned into the same haunted radio station and
Speaker 1: decided to keep listening. It's it makes me think about
Speaker 1: how I'm being perceived when I talk on this fucking
Speaker 1: thing and I get I'm, I'm, I'm I'm this email.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like it's a good perception. This
Speaker 1: email makes me feel like I exist. So okay, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. This makes me feel like I also exist
Speaker 1: in a way. So thank you. Thank you for making
Speaker 1: me also feel as though I exist by reflecting that
Speaker 1: my existence somehow makes sense to you. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That was a mutually beneficial email. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: do one more, all right. This is from someone subject
Speaker 1: line I cut open dead people for a day and
Speaker 1: now I can't get over it. Hey Gek, I'm a
Speaker 1: pre med student working through my undergrad degree and recently
Speaker 1: shadowed a forensic pathologist, the type of doctor who does autopsies.
Speaker 1: It was an insanely eye opening experience, and though I've
Speaker 1: never had a fear of death, autopsying approximately ten people
Speaker 1: has really changed my perspective on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: mainly that we are all just bags of flesh and
Speaker 1: are way more fragile than we think we are. During
Speaker 1: the autopsies, you have to go through all the organs,
Speaker 1: plus cut the skull open and gross the brain, which
Speaker 1: is a very inhumane experience. Obviously, I know it's necessary
Speaker 1: to determine the cause of death, and I literally work
Speaker 1: with organs and tissues every day. Just something about the
Speaker 1: physical dismemberment of a human is mentally jarring, and every
Speaker 1: instinct you have is screaming at you to see stop
Speaker 1: and run, kind of like the whole Uncanny Valley thing,
Speaker 1: which comes from our recognition of decaying humans and subsequent
Speaker 1: flight response. Halfway through the workday, I went to grab
Speaker 1: lunch and it all hit me. At the same time
Speaker 1: I was trying to eat a spam musubi, which apparently
Speaker 1: has the same fleshy sponginess as livers do. I couldn't
Speaker 1: eat meat for weeks, and I couldn't stop thinking about
Speaker 1: how everyone in that morgue were people I could have
Speaker 1: had classes with or passed on the street. I think
Speaker 1: about those patients and their families every day, and the
Speaker 1: experience has made me so much more passionate about medicine,
Speaker 1: because half of those deaths were completely medically avoidable if
Speaker 1: those people received the correct care. I don't regret the
Speaker 1: experience at all, but I don't think I'll ever really
Speaker 1: be the same. Do you have any thoughts. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a billion thoughts. It's all shit I've been
Speaker 1: talking about on here before. But yeah, I think a
Speaker 1: lot about our own fragility. I try not to. I
Speaker 1: try not to, because, like bro coming to terms with
Speaker 1: your own fragility as a human being and the fragility
Speaker 1: of the universe and the transient nature of time and
Speaker 1: all this existential stuff. It's a crazy ride, I think,
Speaker 1: if you're alive, I think it's a good ride to take,
Speaker 1: but it becomes at at some point just like incompatible
Speaker 1: with like normal ass life and I got to that.
Speaker 1: I got to that point and I thought I would
Speaker 1: never be able to leave it, and I and I did,
Speaker 1: and that not you know, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever left it whatever, but I thought I would never
Speaker 1: be able to just like live normal fucking human being
Speaker 1: life after having really felt like I went there mentally.
Speaker 1: But now I have, and it's it's good. It's good
Speaker 1: to know. I think you should take the ride if
Speaker 1: you'd never taken the ride. But yeah, I try not
Speaker 1: to think about this stuff as much as I I
Speaker 1: try to know, I don't try not to think about
Speaker 1: the stuff. I try to think about the stuff optimally,
Speaker 1: try to think about the stuff just enough to keep
Speaker 1: my ass in shape and ignore it just enough to
Speaker 1: keep my ass sane. You know, I'm glad it's made
Speaker 1: you more passionate. And the fact that you say you
Speaker 1: won't ever be the same, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm the same after having my crazy, fucking existential crisis.
Speaker 1: But that's good, but you but I feel. But I
Speaker 1: also I think in order to go there, I had
Speaker 1: to lose touch with certain parts of myself, and that
Speaker 1: felt scary. The idea that I would uh that in
Speaker 1: order to gain this kind of clarity, I had to
Speaker 1: give give away certain things, but I got I got
Speaker 1: all that stuff back. I feel so I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm not. I feel like i'm not. I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been come more whole as a result of kind
Speaker 1: of facing my own fragility. I haven't fucking faid. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would want to face it in the
Speaker 1: way that you have faced it. I'm sorry. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot, but uh, you know you're you're in medicine.
Speaker 1: It's what you do. Uh, And it's a noble thing
Speaker 1: to do what you do. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to That's that's why it's noble. I don't want to
Speaker 1: fucking do it. So, but someone has to do. Someone
Speaker 1: has to cut open dead guys. Someone has to do it, bro,
Speaker 1: someone has to cut open dead guys. And I'm glad,
Speaker 1: and I am glad that it's you and it's not me,
Speaker 1: And it's noble of it to be you. So you
Speaker 1: should be proud of yourself for cutting open dead folks.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy thing to do, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: that it's made you more passionate. Let that be Look,
Speaker 1: because that's the thing, right is like you you you
Speaker 1: face it and you're fucking terrifying, but you're using it
Speaker 1: to actually like do work. And that's when you're the
Speaker 1: least terrified, I think, is when you're in the flow
Speaker 1: state and when you're working, and when you're like have
Speaker 1: some kind of mission, right, Because you could easily open
Speaker 1: look at all these dead people and have it drag
Speaker 1: you into nihilism. But it didn't. It dragged you quite
Speaker 1: the opposite, into into being passionate about keeping people alive.
Speaker 1: You know, that's awesome. I think that's great. So that's
Speaker 1: my thoughts on this email is that you know, what
Speaker 1: you experienced sounds like it was really jarring and crazy
Speaker 1: and life altering in terms of your perception of life.
Speaker 1: But it didn't fucking take you into nihilism. It didn't
Speaker 1: make you go, we're all bags of flesh and we
Speaker 1: don't fucking matter. It took you deeper into your own
Speaker 1: fucking humanity. That's what I love about this email is
Speaker 1: it took you deeper into your own humanity. Humanity being
Speaker 1: a thing that you know is kind of beyond us
Speaker 1: that we don't understand. That's like getting us away from
Speaker 1: our own nihilism and into let's fucking do something, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's keep being more passionate about medicine and fucking
Speaker 1: making it so less people die. It's cool. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think you took a good
Speaker 1: direction with it. I saw it. I saw a dead chicken,
Speaker 1: like it's a raw dead chicken, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. How like you go to chick fil a
Speaker 1: and like everything's like white and nice and polished and
Speaker 1: like that, Like there's marketing and they have like Instagram,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like a like the capital the
Speaker 1: capitalistic guysation whatever of like killing a bunch of chickens
Speaker 1: to make it like a nice, fun, happy, cool thing,
Speaker 1: even though it's like killing a bunch of fucking living things.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. I don't say that. I'm totally
Speaker 1: I love Chick fil A. I'm gonna keep eating there
Speaker 1: and enjoying it and loving loving it. I might go
Speaker 1: there right after this. I'm not. This isn't like a
Speaker 1: peta rant, but it is. You gotta think about it
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. All right. That's the podcast. That's it.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening, Thanks for being here. My
Speaker 1: name is Lyle. I'm a gecko. I don't know. If
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to say, uh, follow me
Speaker 1: on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post all of my Iraq stuff. I'll i'll
Speaker 1: talk about it more if someone calls in and asks
Speaker 1: me about it. I can't really just I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: rant about it, but I'll also talk about it on
Speaker 1: that video when I put it out in a month. Anyway, whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm Lyle, I'm crazy. I'm a gecko. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: See you again Wednesday. Gek bless everythin goes on the line,
Speaker 1: thanking your phone calls every night. Everything goes, And I'm
Speaker 1: teaching you a loud mean of your line expert