1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, can you hear me? 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Yes? Who is it? 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is a gecko guy. 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Sorry, I'm so loud. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how you doing? 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was damn. I'm good. Wow, this is 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: crazy man. I've been listening to you for years and 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: everyone's right too. It's so weird to like actually talk 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: to you. Oh my god, whoa how are you? 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm good? I am uh yeah, I'm good. I feel 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: ready to talk about life and about stuff and about things. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I I just got back from Iraq yesterday. That was 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: pretty crazy, and now I'm now I'm back here in 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: America hanging out, living life. 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really sick that you're I watched your 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: break dancing video, but I didn't see your one talking 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: to the Juggalos. It was a little shaky. Everybody. That's cool, 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: but no, that's that's sick that you were in Iraq. 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: It's really cool that you're able to like travel and 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: make your make your job part of that too. It's 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: been cool to hear you with your uh with your podcast, 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: like seeing how it's growing and seeing you kind of 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: follow your passion. It's really cool. 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you, thank you. You know, I wanted, 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the all the iraction on 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the podcast, but I'm I'm going to do that at 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: another point because I want to talk to you because, uh, 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: you texted me something that I thought was super interesting 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and I have questions. I am curious. You told me 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: that you did a strong man show today, yeah, and that, 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: uh you want to talk about like you want to 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: talk about these are your words, being a muscle mommy 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: and competing in a strong Man as a woman. I'm 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: very curious about that. Please please tell me how it went. 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I don't know how much other people or 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: how much you know about strength sports necessarily. I know 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: you've kind of talked about fitness on the podcast, and 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: I've always thought it would be kind of interesting if 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I called in to provide my perspective on being in 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: strength sports too and having that kind of be my passion. 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, so, I I am twenty eight. Now. I 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: know you never like remember people's names, but it doesn't 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: really matter too much. But I'm twenty eight. I started lifting, 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: like doing up powerlifting, which is like squat, bench press 46 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: and bedlift. I started training that in my freshman year 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: of college in twenty fifteen, and then I did a 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: lot of power lifting meets between twenty fifteen and about 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one when I started freshman year of college, 50 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: like I said, and then I graduated college and I 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: went to a gym where they had strong Man stuff, 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: and so strong Man it kind of like the the 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: thing that people think of with strong Man is like 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: if you've ever seen the guy in a circus uniform 55 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: with just the mustache and no hair and the big 56 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: dumbbell and like the stripey shorts. You know, if you 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: could picture that, that's they call that, Like the giant 58 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: tell bell is called a circus bill, and that's sometimes 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: an event. It's strong Man was kind of just bringing 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: about bringing a weight that's as heavy as you can 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: from point A to point B. So sometimes it's that. 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: Sometimes I've pulled a truck before the competition, which is cool. Yeah, 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: my profile picture on Instagram is me pulling a truck 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: with like a flag on the back. In school. Sometimes 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: it's well known for like Atlas stones what they're called, 66 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: and they're just big round stones and you pick it 67 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: up and you either put it over a bar or 68 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: put it up to a platform. You carry a lot 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: of stuff you do, deadlifts, reps. Sometimes it's kind of 70 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: just nowadays I've noticed and I'm like, I go on 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Reddit a lot, and there's a subreddit for strongmans and 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: the sub for everything, and I saw somebody's hot take 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: a strong man has gotten kind of it used to 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: be more exciting and now it's kind of like it's 75 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: not as exciting, like they used to do sumo wrestling 76 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: and they used to like flip cars, and now it's 77 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: kind of more it's it's it's a way I think 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: nowadays it's more like dead lifts and more standardized stuff 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: as I think to get more people into it. But 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: it's it's not it's not like creamy stuff now. 81 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean you pull, you know, is there like a 82 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: what was the other I guess is the idea that 83 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: like it should have been more crazy thing like picking 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: up a like like they put a child under a 85 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: car and you got to save them type of stuff. 86 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: I do actually know one of the people at the 87 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: gym that I go to there's a show where one 88 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: of the events is running through drywall, and he was like, man, 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: I wish I could have done that one. But I 90 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: mean the show I did today. I wish I could. 91 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm hoping when I explained stuff, if like it's not 92 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: clear what I'm saying, I could try to elaborate, but 93 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: like I think the coolest one that I did today, 94 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: or like, there's one event. It's a yoke and so 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: it's like think of a barbell and it's welded to 96 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: two posts on the side. It's like if you've ever 97 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: seen the stuff that like cows will pull that, that's 98 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: literally a yoke and it's strong man. You'll you'll kind 99 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: of get under it and you'll walk with it, sometimes 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: fifty feet sometimes and in this particular case, it was 101 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: carry the yolks fifty feet and then grab farmer handles, 102 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: which is kind of like if you can carry two 103 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: bags of groceries, then you can do farmer carry, but 104 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: then picking that up and carrying that fifty feet back. 105 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: And the yolk that I carried was four hundred and 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: twenty pounds and I'm I'm five to two and I 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: weigh about one forty five pounds, So wow, it's yeah, 108 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: it's it's cool to be able to because I've been 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: doing string sports, like I said, for almost ten years 110 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: at this point, so to be a female athlete in 111 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: like where my focus isn't like trying to be small 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: and lose weight, it's trying to build muscle and take 113 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: care of myself to like lift as much weight as 114 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: I can. I'm actually too, I'm more excited because in 115 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: January too, I'm doing so for context too. With strong Man, 116 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: it's very common for people to take steroids, like the 117 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: big guys at the tippy top, if you know, like 118 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: half thorb Jordson for instance, he was the Mountain and 119 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, or like Eddie Hall is a popular 120 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: name to those guys. It's like pretty understood in the 121 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: community that they take steroids like the top guys typically do. 122 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: And so there's a federation in strong Man where it's 123 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: for people who don't take steroids. And since I've been 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: doing it long enough, like not a lot of women 125 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: do strength sports. So because I've been doing that long enough, 126 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: like I'm pretty good at it now, and the show 127 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: in January that I'm doing would be a qualifier to 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: go to Worlds for the federation in like August next 129 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: year probably. So I've never I've only traveled to South 130 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: America once I went to the Amazon Rainforest, it's funny enough. 131 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: That's the only time I've left the country, but for 132 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: the show. It would be cool. I would like be 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: able to qualify and compete and go to Europe hopefully, 134 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: and I think it was in the UK this year, 135 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: but it'd be cool if it were there Ireland. I 136 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: think I'd love to go there next year and like 137 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: do a strength competition and stuff. You know, it'd be 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: so cool. 139 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's so cool. So the so thet when 140 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: you say so the steroids thing, it seems to me 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: that it's like, uh, everyone kind of is it kind 142 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: of like a thing where it's like you're not supposed 143 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: to do it, but everyone just fucking does it anyway. 144 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so in strong Man and honestly kind of 145 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: an Olympic sports to my understanding, there's ways to if 146 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: you get blood work done regularly and you eat healthy 147 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: and try to like get good sleep. There's there's always risks, 148 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: but there's ways to do it and kind of mitigate 149 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: those risks. Like they say cycling on and off, Like 150 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: cycling on is like taking some sterized and then cycling off. 151 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: That's kind of what you're supposed to do to help 152 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: like reset your body, and so I've met different people 153 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: who talk openly about it. There's a lot of channels 154 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: on YouTube or people talk openly about it, and I 155 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: follow athletes on Instagram that's talks openly about it. So 156 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm actually funny enough too. I would have considered taking 157 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: it if there was a point, because like, I'm a 158 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: good athlete, but I don't know if I could ever 159 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: like be the best. And I thought about it. But 160 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: the reason I don't do is my boyfriend, who he 161 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: is a powerlifter. He's like, if I took it, you 162 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: know it, it would make me have a deeper voice, 163 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: and it would give you more masculine features and probably 164 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: like lose my hair and stuff. And if the roles 165 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: were reversed, I probably wouldn't be happy if he took 166 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: steroids either. So it's it's I'm not gonna like it's 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how common it is necessarily because like 168 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: people aren't all talking openly about it, but I know 169 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: that it is a thing where they're like people might 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, take like a little bit of home to them, 171 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: you know. 172 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: So I'm curious. So your boyfriend is also a powerlifter. 173 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: He's a powerlifter. I'm a strong an athlete. 174 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Who would win in a fight. 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: He would, So I'm curious. 176 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious about this, Like was it important to you? 177 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure that like because listen, here's like the 178 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: average even though you're five to two. But the fact 179 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: that like you could probably like the average guy, right 180 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: like you could beat the ship out of me, you 181 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you could beat the ship 182 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: out of probably most average guys, right Like? Was that 183 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: when you were like dating, was that important to you 184 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: to find like like I I was that the thing 185 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: where you're like, you know, I accept that I could 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: beat the ship out of most average guys? Or was 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: it important to you, like find someone who is also 188 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: like you know, who was like like I guess above 189 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: your level, not like above your level, you know, but 190 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: like you know can like uh like physically like like 191 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, is that 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: important to you that you're you know you know what 193 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying is wrong? I do. 194 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: No, I never thought about it necessarily as like someone 195 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: I could be in a site versus couldn't. But I did, 196 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: like it's hard to be a woman doing strength sports 197 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: and accept that like have like I don't have a 198 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: small waist, I'm kind of blocky, and I I feel 199 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: like I have like kind of more masculine features because 200 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm more muscular, so I was I've dated at this point. 201 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Now I think it's like the fourth guy that I've 202 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: dated and after the last one, I guess the last 203 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: one was this one. Now, I did want somebody who 204 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: uh like a beefcake, you know, like a huge size. 205 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And look, you got to where 206 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: you and you deserve that. You know what I'm saying, 207 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, because like in the in the 208 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: dating universe, in the dating universe, it's you really you 209 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: really can't ask for anything that you don't have, you 210 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you if you wanted, like 211 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: if you wanted like a like a hot muscular guy, 212 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, you've earned it, you know what 213 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 214 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's nice. You do kind of get your 215 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: pick of the letter if you are a girl who 216 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: does shrink sports, because it's like, you know, there's not 217 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: a lot of us, so it's kind of nice in 218 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: that regard. 219 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: To pass three guys. Do you think you could have 220 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: beaten them up? 221 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: No, so my my last boyfriend, Oh that's kind of funny. Uh, 222 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: my last boyfriend he was six foot three and at 223 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: one point almost four hundred pounds, and he was a 224 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: strong man too. He actually when we were going through 225 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: our breakup, he didn't he wanted to talk things through, 226 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: and so he sat in front the door for like 227 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: three hours because he didn't want me to leave, and 228 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: I couldn't have moved him, Like I like try to 229 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: nudge it a little bit. That whole thing is kind 230 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: of funny too. But I think my second one probably 231 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: and well because it's funny enough. Like my original type 232 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: was like skinny white dude like I was. I'm also 233 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: an engineer, so like I was surrounded by like skinny 234 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: white guy, right, and that you stalls be my type. 235 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: But then you know, you do strength sports, so it's 236 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: like you're at the gym four to five days a week, 237 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: two to three hours at a time, so you're kind 238 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: of surrounded five yeah. Yeah, I'm just you're surrounded by 239 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: these giant, muscly guys. So you know, you see that 240 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: for like five six years, and that's kind of like 241 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: how your type transitions. That's what I noticed for myself. 242 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: I guess, mm hmmmmmm. 243 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so you go to the gym do you 244 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: used to sell for how how many years have you 245 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: been going to the gym five times a week, four 246 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: to five times a week, two to three hours. 247 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't remember what I was doing in college. I 248 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: do know honestly that I was a bit more anal 249 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: when I was in college. Honestly, up until I dated 250 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: my last boyfriend, I was like way more anal about it. 251 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: And I think I started lifting and competing in twenty seventeen, 252 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: so it was probably from like twenty seventeen up until now. 253 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: You know I'm going to the gym. Well, right now, 254 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: I go to the gym to do strength training four 255 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: days a week, and then I rock climb once a week. 256 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: I actually too as a side note, because I've been 257 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: listening to your podcast so long. You talk a lot 258 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: about just like you know, going out and doing shit, 259 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: and I talk about your podcast with people a lot. 260 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: I don't think I've gotten anyone to listen to your books. 261 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: It's a tough pi, no, but it's so good. 262 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: And on Monday nights at the rock climbing gym I 263 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: go to they have a ladies' night at six o'clock, 264 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: different women can go and there's a form of rock 265 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: climbing it's called blaying. I don't know if you know 266 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: what that means, but that's like when you have to 267 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: harness and you're hooked up to someone. And so I 268 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: kind of did that and was like trying to go 269 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: regularly because like I listen to the podcasts and people 270 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: talk about like I remember the girl who went to 271 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: Pinball Club, like a older episode, and it was just 272 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: inspiring me where it's like I'll go and I'll go regularly, 273 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Like I listen. I think one of the episodes, maybe 274 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: a week or two ago, there was a kid who 275 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: was like his first year of college and he was 276 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: two weeks in. He's like, I'm not making any friends. 277 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I stand by it that you 278 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: have to be regularly at a space for a year 279 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: to really get comfortable. Yeah, totally had the community, but 280 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: I moved. I've been in the same state for my 281 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: whole life, but I left my last job and moved 282 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: to the area that I'm at now in October of 283 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: last year. So it's been almost a year living here 284 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: and I'm rock climbing regularly. And I have like some 285 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: friends from it. Now I'm actually going to Warp Tour 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: with two of my rock climbing friends cool November. 287 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: So climbing friends also like super Ripped. 288 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm actually because I have the strength background, I'm 289 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: naturally stronger than a lot of them, which does feel 290 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: pretty cool. I will say, uh, it has. It's very 291 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: helpful to be a lifter in a lot of aspects 292 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: of life, to be honest. 293 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: That other what other aspects? 294 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: I mean. 295 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: One interesting thing is that at the gym I go to, 296 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: there are a lot of it's a big gym, and 297 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: there's this one woman that I met. She's a mother, 298 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: she's probably in her fifties. She's like in perimenopause and menopause, 299 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: and she taught. She posts things openly about that on Instagram. 300 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: She talks about it. And I know. The biggest thing 301 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: is that because I have this like s fitness habit 302 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: that I've built, I eat really healthy too. I actually 303 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: got a nutrition coach recently. Uh so I eat really healthy. 304 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: I prioritize my sleep and it helps being with someone 305 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: who prioritizes their sleep. But I feel good pretty much 306 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: most of the days, aside from when I'm super sore 307 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: from training. I sleep pretty good. I don't drink either. 308 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: I haven't actually had any alcohol since New Year's two 309 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: years ago now, And I just it's cool to be 310 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: able to have a habit where I feel pretty good 311 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: a lot of the time. And I feel like, only 312 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: not all the time, because I'm kind of an anxious 313 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 2: person too, but I feel like having this fitness habit 314 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: allows me to like think pretty clearly, to be able 315 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: to have good control of like how I'm feeling. And 316 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: I know my anxious thoughts get worse when I'm more 317 00:17:53,359 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 2: tired or I'm not being mindful of my ChIL to 318 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: the point of the menipausting to the thing that women 319 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: who actually study that say, and you're older is yeah, 320 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking to the gecko. 321 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: Who is that? 322 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: That's my boyfriend? 323 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's that is it? 324 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: Wait? 325 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: Did he just walk in? 326 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: She just walked in? He just went on a walk. 327 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: We went to a restaurant after my show, and we 328 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: each ate nachos and boff wings and our own respective meals, 329 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: and we each got a dessert. 330 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Are those all? Are those all the foods that you 331 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: like can't have while you're like leading up to this. 332 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: It's funny, actually is you can kind of eat stuff 333 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: like that. Like there's if you're ever in a diet. 334 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: In my opinion, if you ever a diet where you 335 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: have to cut out food, then it's not sustainable. I'm 336 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: not really putent free and you can't. 337 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Have wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. That doesn't 338 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: make any don't all diets involve cutting out food. 339 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: It's it's it's moderation. So I, for instance, the girl 340 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: that's my nutrition coach, one of the snacks that I'll 341 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: get on my rock climbing day before I go to bed, 342 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: my last meal is and Okay, it sounds kind of lame, 343 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: but it's really good rice cakes with peanut butter and 344 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: mini chocolate chips. That sounds oh my god, dude, it's 345 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: so good. But I just to tie up the last 346 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: way too, Like when women get older, they like their 347 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: estrogen levels just like shoot down and their hormones get 348 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: all out of whack. And the best thing you can 349 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: do when you're older and like in that stage your 350 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: life is lift weight, eat proteins, leap, drink water like 351 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: all that stuff that I'm kind of doing now. So 352 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: I feel like because I have this happen now. I 353 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: know it's gonna help in the long run, but also 354 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: I feel like it helps me manage my emotions and 355 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: I I haven't talked to people a lot of I 356 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: don't really know how to phrase it, but I feel 357 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: like I have a pretty good head on my shoulders 358 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: and it helps a lot because I strength train regularly. 359 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: And also too, I have a community. I think that's 360 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: a big thing that a lot of people miss in 361 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: in like the modern day. Is like when you go 362 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: to a place regularly, like we were just saying, go 363 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: to the gym regularly, you see the same people and 364 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: you kind of build a community there. And gym people 365 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: are kind of like people who do strength sports. They're 366 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: kind of very similar people. So it's easy to say 367 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: hi to people and chat about it. And I can 368 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: be like an awkward person, but to be able to 369 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: ask someone like, oh, are you like training for a show? 370 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: Like what events are you doing? And like we're all 371 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: kind of in similar boats, so y'all kind of get it. 372 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: So you did the show today, Let me ask you this. 373 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: You say that a lot of people in the strong 374 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: man community feel as though it's gone downhill because they're 375 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: not as, Uh, my understanding of what you said is 376 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: that the kind of like there's less showmanship, right, Can 377 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: I ask you? 378 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh so sorry? 379 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead go aheah ahead. 380 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I misrepresented it. I 381 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: don't think that's a common sentiment among all people. That's 382 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: just my perspective. 383 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so okues, So that's a perfect, perfect perfect. 384 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: So if that's your perspective, what do you think, like, 385 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: what give me some good like challenges that that you 386 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: think they should add, like fucking like picking up big 387 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: barrels of water and throwing them down, Like what do 388 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: you think they should they should add to the strong 389 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: man competition if you could add any kind of challenge. 390 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: So the first thing that comes to mind is that 391 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: I follow I follow a lot of athletes on Instagram, 392 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: and there was somebody post to show where most of 393 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: the events were in water. So it's like one event 394 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: was picking up a log and pressing it overhead for 395 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: rest in water, and then another was tearing like a tub. 396 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a big a drum filled with 397 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: water and carrying that around. I think it's just like 398 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: it's stupid, you know, actually too. The last show I 399 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: did it was a kilted show. Everybody wore a kilt 400 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: and it was a rent fare and so we were 401 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: in kind of like the horse trough, kind of where 402 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: they do the jeffs, same kind of area. And so 403 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: there was one event, and this one you might have 404 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: to look up to kind of see. It's hard to explain, 405 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: but it's called a single finger something that's such weird names. 406 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: But the single finger is you kind of pick up 407 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: this I think of a stick that is stuck to 408 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: a pivot point, really big stick, and so you pick 409 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: up from one end and you kind of get it 410 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: up to your chest and then push it above your 411 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: head and you kind of walk your hands under it 412 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: to push the stick to fall on the other side. 413 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: That's the That's the way I can explain it. You 414 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: might just have to look it up, but that's a 415 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: cool event to watch people do. There was one where 416 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 2: it was the the wagon of pain they called it, 417 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: where you pick up a sandbag and load in a wagon, 418 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: pick them another loaded the wagon that picks another load 419 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: in and then you carry the wagon down at distance. 420 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: And that one doesn't look cool too. Those are the 421 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: ones I remember, but I thought that one was cool. 422 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I signed up for it, was because 423 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: it was at a rent there and like it's kind 424 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: of a spectacle. 425 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, m. 426 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I wanted to ask your what are the 427 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: so what are the numbers for you? Like, what's your 428 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: what's your I would love to hear a rundown of 429 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: the stats, like what's your bench? 430 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: So I actually don't really bench anymore, but I did 431 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: a power listing meat last year and I benched one 432 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds the enough that I've deadlifted. 433 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: That one's cooler. The most I've deadlifted is three hundred 434 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: eighty pounds. 435 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: WHOA, that's great. 436 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then squat too. I don't really do 437 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: that one as much, but when I did it last year, 438 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: I squatted to sixty so they yeah, the numbers for 439 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: it's hard to say numbers for strong man stuff because 440 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: it's you're never really going for like a heavy single. 441 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: But like I did an event today that was cool too. 442 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: It was I picked up a sandbag that weighs as 443 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: much as me, like one hundred and fifty pounds, and 444 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: then you know, like keg, like you put beer in it. 445 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: I picked up that one and that weighed one hundred 446 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: and fifty five pounds and I carried it, and then 447 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: I picked up an Atlas stone which also it was 448 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five pounds and tried to carry 449 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: that one. But it was cool though, because they like 450 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: split up the group everybody was competing today into two 451 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: groups to make it go with it faster, and I 452 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: picked up I was like the second, the last person 453 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: to go for that event. So like all these guys, 454 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: you know, some of them were like in their fifties 455 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: and stuff, and like they were carrying less than meet 456 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: like hot shit, but yeah, thank you. But as far 457 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: as specific weights to give, I guess the last show 458 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: I did, there was an event where it was you know, 459 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: like a beer cake. Literally one of them is like 460 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: carrying a keg. It was a two hundred pound keg 461 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: and I put it over a bar that was at 462 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: like forty five inches tall like I'm five but two, 463 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: so it was maybe like forty two inches high, I think, 464 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: And I did that I think four times. So I 465 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: don't know, it's hard to like explain these numbers and 466 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: like know if other people like know what that feels like, 467 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: but it's it's I think the coolest part of it 468 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: for me is that the stuff that I'm doing next 469 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: year is stuff that I never thought I would be doing. 470 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, like I now my voice is shaky. I 471 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: feel like it's so surreal, but it's just I think 472 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: I've been really excited because, Yeah, the stuff that I'm 473 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: doing next year is the stuff that I've been standing 474 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen, like working. 475 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: Towards you know, interesting what you never thought that you 476 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: would make it into what is it called federation? 477 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Well, there's different federations. It's more I never thought that 478 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: I would be doing a qualifier to go to World 479 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: for a strong Man and like I'm going to have 480 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: you ever heard of the Arnold? 481 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 482 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: No? Is that based off of chart? 483 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 3: Uh? 484 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: Sorry? Is that based off the Schwarzenegger. 485 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fitness expo and in Columbus, Ohio. 486 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: I don't know what else there is in Ohio, but 487 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: there's a fit It's a fitness expo. So it's like 488 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: all the strength sports that kind of come together and 489 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: it's like it's one of the top sport strong man 490 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: shows for people that besides the super heavyweight men. And 491 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to that too. In March. That's a plan anyway, 492 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: unless the events kind of stinker. If it's too expensive, 493 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: then I probably won't. But I think I'm been saving 494 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: my money. I think I can go, And the fact 495 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: that I'm going to it is like I never thought 496 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: I'd be able to go, you know what I mean? 497 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: Mmmmm, what's the what is the demographic? Like who's in 498 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: the audience for these shows? I'm curious, like, who are 499 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: the what's the demographic of people that attend? 500 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: So the one that I did, it's mostly friends and family. 501 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: It's the people who compete, it's the people who help out, 502 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: and then it's friends and family. So my mom and 503 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: my stepdad actually came to watch, very nice and my 504 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: mom she's, oh my god, she's weighs as much as me, 505 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: but she's like six inches taller than me. She's skin 506 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: and bone, she's sixty. She's sixty years old, literally osteoporotic. 507 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: And she's like, she said, she felt so out of 508 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: place because you know, we're doing this stuff when we're 509 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: like all shouting and rah rah. But you know she 510 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: was there too, and there are other like parents and 511 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: stuff there, and that's typically who it is, even at 512 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: a bigger show, it's comprised of the athletes, the couple 513 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: people who help out, and then maybe some other athletes 514 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: who go to that gym and are interested in it. 515 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: But then in other ways it's friends and family. So 516 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: if you ever watch a high level strong man show 517 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: like the audience, I mean, for like World's Strongest Man, 518 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: that's like one of the biggest ones, and Matt has 519 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: other people, but for ones that aren't as well known 520 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: but are still big, it's usually friends and family. 521 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: Who's the like World's Strongest woman? Right now? Do we 522 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: have a do we have eyes on that? 523 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: The name that comes to mind for me, there's this 524 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: woman named Nnez I am easy. I think she might 525 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: be the strongest in her weight class. There is this 526 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: woman whose name I can't think of her name, but 527 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: she's she's I think. 528 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: From Oh is it para Kara Squill. 529 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's definitely one of the top strongest athletes. The 530 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: strongest people. It's mass move mass, so the strongest people 531 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: are gonna be the heavyweights and the super heavyweights. Like 532 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I can name the strongest people like in my weight class. 533 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: But I guess to give you some perspective too, I 534 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: am a typically one hundred and forty five pound woman. 535 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: When I do a weight cut into like a competitive 536 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: weight class, I'm about one hundred and forty one pounds, 537 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 2: and at one hundred and forty one pounds, there are 538 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: women who are deadlifting four hundred and five hundred pounds. 539 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane. So people are just nutty strong nowadays. 540 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: I got a fitness question for you. It's not really 541 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: a fitness question. We're just like, okay, when people do 542 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: like squats. There's this thing that gives me tons of 543 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: anxiety when I see it at the gym where people 544 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: do squats and they're carrying all of the fucking weight 545 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: of the thing, not like with their They're not like 546 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: grabbing it with their shoulders, like they're on their fingertips, 547 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, like they carry it all on their finger 548 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: to you know, what I'm talking about is like, is. 549 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: The bar on their collar bone? 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: I may possibly possibly maybe I think it's like on 551 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: their yeah, like on their back, on their neck maybe, 552 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: and they're just carrying it all with their fingertips, I 553 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: don't know. And their hand their fucking hands are like 554 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: curled all the way back. 555 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: Is that just like a regular squat? But people have 556 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: their hands bent really far back. I might know what 557 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: you're talking. 558 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: About, I think, so, I mean I might just be stupid, but. 559 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, if I'm picturing the right, some people 560 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: just have really good wrist flexibility. Some people, how do 561 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: I say, Yeah, I mean that's just the way some 562 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: people squat. Some people squat with their legs super wide 563 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: out and have their hands bent really really far back. 564 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it allows them to have the bar 565 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: sit lower on their on their upper back. So I'm 566 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 2: not this is kind of out of my wheelhouse. But I, 567 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: for instance, for my body shape, I have like longer thighs, 568 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: and so when I squat, I kind of will bend 569 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: over versus some people, like you can squat really upright 570 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: if they have like shorter thighs, and so there are 571 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: people if you squat, if you lean over more forward 572 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: as you're squatting, and the bar bell is further down 573 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 2: on your back, like on your upper back, and your 574 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: hands are bed further, then that's little engineering. It's it's 575 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: a smaller lever arm, so it's a little bit easier 576 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: to move versus if it were higher up on your 577 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: upper back. I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense, 578 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: But it's like it's the distance between the bar and 579 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: your hips is a little bit closer, so it's a 580 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: little bit easier to lift. I don't know if that's 581 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: exactly the way to explain it. 582 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: That makes sense. I just as long as I thought 583 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: you were gonna, as long as you didn't say because 584 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: they're crazy and why then No. 585 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: We'stening regularly. We're not crazy and wild. They go to 586 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: bed at nine thirty pm. They don't drink beer or 587 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: like once a month. You know they're not crazy. 588 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: So well, let me think here, what's next for you? 589 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: Well? 590 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you tell me your name? 591 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh, it's Rochelle, Rochelle. 592 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: What's next for you? Rochelle? I guess so you're gonna 593 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: You're you're going out for Worlds. That'll be cool. When 594 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: is that again? 595 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: So the qualifying show I'm doing, it's in Jersey in 596 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: mid January, and if I do well in that, then 597 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: Worlds would be in August of next year. Presumably it 598 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: was in August of this year, so I think it 599 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: would be in August next year. And then I'm doing 600 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: the Arnold two, which is in March, and after that, 601 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: I don't really know. I'll kind of figure it out after, 602 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: but those are plans right now. M. 603 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's really cool. I'm excited for you. I'm 604 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: trying to think if H, well, I guess before we go, 605 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: is there anything else you want the people to know 606 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: about women's strong men strong man competitions, those conceptions you 607 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: want to clear up. 608 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's a misconception, but I don't even 609 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: think it is. The people who go to the gym regularly, 610 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: or the guys, especially who looks big and scary, they're 611 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 2: typically the nicest people. And if you see someone like 612 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: in there all the time and lifting heavy, and you 613 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: ever have a question about like oh I don't I 614 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: don't know how to squat, or like I need help 615 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: with ben, you give me a spot, like they would 616 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: be more than happy too. They'd be more than happy 617 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: to talk about it and give tips because it's all 618 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: we do. You know, it's our only hobby. So people 619 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: who are like that, they're super nice and they would 620 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: love to help you. You never have to like worry 621 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: people are watching you at the gym, because they're really 622 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: unless you're like in their cocky and like telling people like, 623 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: oh this is whatever if you're like trying, Like I 624 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: always have respect for the people who are like clearly 625 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: trying and a guy who's lifting like the bar bell 626 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: because he's new to it, or like someone who's overweight 627 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: and like clearly like is uncomfortable being there. Like, I 628 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: think that's great. And most people who do fitness to 629 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: the level that I do, they feel the same with. 630 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: Oh my other question, but what's the what's the like 631 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: like the other women who participate in the competitions? Do 632 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: you become friends with them? Are they the kinds of 633 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: people you you would want to hang out with? 634 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: I honestly, it's interesting. I don't really hang out with 635 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: a lot of like the gym people outside of the gym, 636 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: but I would. I don't know. I guess I just 637 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: kind of I don't hang up. I don't I guess 638 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: I would simple question, simple answer your question as I would. 639 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: It's hard to break that barrier with like gym going people. 640 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: But actually the people that I hung out with after 641 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: my competition today were people that I met in the gym. 642 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: So I think it's just I don't know. Sometime real 643 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: think about I guess trying to like ask them more 644 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: like if they want to hang outside of the gym. 645 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Rochelle, is there anything else you want to say to 646 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go? 647 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: No, I just it's so cool that have finally got 648 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: on and were listening to you so long. Your podcast 649 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: is great. It's it's really I guess for you. It's 650 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: just I know people tell you like what you're doing 651 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: is it's it's good. I'm trying to find my words, 652 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: but it really is. It's really helpful to hear perspectives 653 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 2: of a variety of people. I loved that guys story. 654 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: I know I'm talking a lot mo Yeah, no, don't know. 655 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: Just the train Hopper guys fascinating you is so nice. 656 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's listening to this too, but 657 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: I hope he knows. Like I agree with the Spotify 658 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: Covins too, like, yeah, he clearly loves his daughter and 659 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: he's I just love hearing different people's stories and makes 660 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: the world feel a lot smaller and it really does 661 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: help me know that. Like like you say too, I 662 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: don't know anything. I don't know anything about people, but 663 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: I love learning about their experiences. I love It's just 664 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: it's cool that I got to get on, especially too. 665 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: When I see like your personal hobbies of like traveling 666 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: and making that part of your work and interviewing people, 667 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 2: it seems like that strange to take off. So I'm 668 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: excited to see how that goes for you. I will 669 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: be whatever is like, we'll be watching your career whatever. 670 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Like, thank you, Rochelle, No, thank you. 671 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: Know. 672 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm touched that so many people have been felt connected 673 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: to that particular episode, because yeah, it really touched me too. 674 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: It's cool to see. I'm very happy that that got 675 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: the kind of response that I think that that guy's 676 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: story warranted. And thank you for talking about this. This 677 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: was This was a very fun one and a sea 678 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: of this was cool. I feel like, in a cee 679 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: of a lot of you know, heavy stuff, it's nice 680 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: to just like chat about a fun, cool, interesting thing 681 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: that someone does as part of their life. So I 682 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on and talking about this. 683 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. Oh I guess too, if people 684 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: I can throw out my Instagram. 685 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, sure please. 686 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to become a big name instrum man. 687 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be an influencer, but I love 688 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: that people have questions about fitness and want to like 689 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: for me my Instagram handle, Well, yeah, my Instagram handle 690 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: is Roe Shambau nine five like r O s h 691 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: a m b oh ro Shambo. I'm Rochelle, Yeah, Rochelle. 692 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: Yes, trust me, I'm an engineer. Oh this is you. 693 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: This is you with your ripped boyfriend. 694 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: Yes, he he. When I make my next post, I 695 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: got him a shirt that says a super hot cougar 696 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: stole my heart anywhere? Is that? Because I think it's cute. 697 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, I hope this isn't weird considering the context. But 698 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: you guys have crazy calves. 699 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. No, I love that. 700 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: I love them. 701 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: People like like I've had girls at the gym sy like, 702 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 2: oh my god, like you your quads are huge, and like. 703 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 704 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: Oh this is I see this is what the I'm 705 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: looking at through a little carousel and I see the 706 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: little the post the oh, holy shoe way is that you? 707 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: Oh holy fuck, dude, you're you look like you're about 708 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: to Oh my god, this is you deadlifting? Uh damn. 709 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: That's Cray with the guy in the beard in the background. 710 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three forty five. 711 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: Holy shit, that looks that looks terrifying. Honestly, that looks 712 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: like like I look at this and I'm like, you 713 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: look it looks like I mean, and you're professionals obviously 714 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: know what you're doing, but I'm like, damn, if I 715 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: tried to do this shit, my back would just fucking 716 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: go be destroyed. 717 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, your your reaction is the same as my mom. 718 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: She gets very scared to see me left. But you know, 719 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: you do it for long enough, and you stay open 720 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: to feedback from people, and anybody can do stuff like that. 721 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: You know. 722 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anyone has questions ever about fitness or anything, 723 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: you can just like message me and I can do 724 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: my best to answer. I feel like sometimes that's what 725 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: people need. 726 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 3: You know. 727 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you where on your profile picture with 728 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: pulling this truck with an American flag in the background. 729 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty epic. 730 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: My dad recorded that video too, and it's just funny 731 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: because he didn't get the truck until like at the 732 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: very end, I think. 733 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh, he just was like he just recorded you holding 734 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: the rope. 735 00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was great. My dad moved, but he 736 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: came to every single show I had before and every 737 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: power every single one before you moved. So I appreciated 738 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: that a lot. 739 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for calling. Rochelle. I wish you good 740 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: luck in qualifying for worlds. 741 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 2: Thank you, and good luck in all your trips too. 742 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: See you around the universe. Dude. M hm, take care bybershell. Ye, 743 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: that was a fun one that felt like a very 744 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: classic therapy Gecko phone call. 745 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 746 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking through this this woman's instagram. This is this 747 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: like strong Man. She has all these photos of her 748 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: strong Man shit row Chambeau one n. Yeah, this looks crazy. 749 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: This looks like I feel myself in pain just watching 750 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: her do this stuff. Yeah, with look at this with 751 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: the drum, the big fucking oh holy fuck, dude, she's 752 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: picking up this giant like bean bag and like bending 753 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: herself all the that's crazy. She's like, that's crazy. Holy shit. 754 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: She's like bending herself all the way backwards to hold 755 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: up this barrel and then just like powers back forward. 756 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: That's insane. Damn. Shout out, shout out to Rochelle. Hey, 757 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: what's up? 758 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 3: Man? 759 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: What's your name? 760 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 2: Oh? 761 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just the get Yeah, who is this? 762 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 3: Oh? This is Elias Elias. 763 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: Elias Elias. You texted me and you said I want 764 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: to talk about my root beer collection. 765 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just text you right now. I just got 766 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: a place with no connection. But I tried calling you 767 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 3: tricking after I got off of work. But then I 768 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 3: went to this place with no connection, and then I 769 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 3: think I might have lost you. 770 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: But none of that matters now, Elios, none of that matters. Now. 771 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to hear about this root beer collection. 772 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: Okay, So I've been building a root beer collection. I'm 773 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: only twenty one, so I've been building a re sellection 774 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: for like three years, four years now. I mean I 775 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 3: tried everywhere I go, I try to find a bottle 776 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 3: of root beer. I went to Well, so far, I've 777 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 3: only went to places in California, but I went to Hawaii. 778 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: I tried to find one there, and I don't think 779 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 3: they sell the right type of the ingredients to make 780 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: a good root beer there, or so I heard. But yeah, 781 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: I mean I have a picture of my collection, but 782 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 3: I would just have to show you. 783 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you text that to me? 784 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: Tractice? Uh, Now I need to find it. 785 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: What's the most prized aspect of your collection? 786 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: My most tried aspect? It's just that, I mean I 787 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 3: only have. 788 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: Like or I'm sorry I said that wrong. The most 789 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: prized item. 790 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I had, Well, I think my favorite. My favorite 791 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: is the Dad's The Dad's root beer. You ever tried 792 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: that one? 793 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, So I've never had I've never had 794 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: Dad's root beer. But when I was in high school 795 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: on Amazon, I once ordered like a hundred Dads root 796 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: Beer barrel candies and so I've had like tons, Like 797 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: I would just find loose root beer barrel candies in 798 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: my backpack all the time because of how many of them. 799 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: I just like took me to school and ship. I've 800 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: never had actual Dad's root beer, though, Is it any good? Oh? 801 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: Dude? Every time there's I mean, we haven't had a 802 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 3: Dad's great, but every time I. 803 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: Go there, Sorry you cut out for a second. Would 804 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: you say? 805 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 3: Every time I go to the Little Sandwich. 806 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: I always get it and oh, we're losing you. 807 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 3: Refrigerator with Dad's root beer. I'm grabbing it. That's how 808 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 3: good it is. 809 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: Okay, every time you go to a sandwich shop you 810 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: get it. That's how good it is. Okay, that's pretty good. 811 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Okay, what's the root what's the what's 812 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: the worst. What's the worst root beer that you've had? 813 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: Okay? So I went to this candy shop my local mall, 814 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 3: and there was one called Rats root beer. It is 815 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 3: like Rats and I tried it. It tastes it tasted 816 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 3: like like super watery. Uh you had like when you 817 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 3: drink from a water fountain. It's just it's just straight 818 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 3: up syrup. Yeah, that's what. That's what that one's chased like. 819 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. 820 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm trying to find this. 821 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Okay, rank these one to three, A 822 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: and W, barks, mug. 823 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're talking about the real the roof. So 824 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: if you have bark in between those three, if you 825 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 3: have barks in two or one the spirit, then that's 826 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: the worst stigion of your life. 827 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: Because okay, so bars barks is the worst. 828 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: Barks is definitely the worst for sure. And then I 829 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 3: go A and W. But me and my brother dude, 830 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 3: we every every time we go to like a soda 831 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 3: falon and they don't mug. Dude, I mean, I still 832 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 3: drink the root beer, but if they don't have mug, 833 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: I mean I give it like a. 834 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: Okay, you're a mug guy. Automatically, you're a mug guy. 835 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,439 Speaker 3: I'm definitely I'm definitely a mug guy. 836 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: For I'm with you. I'm also a mug guy. I 837 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: just like the dog. I don't know why, but something 838 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: about looking at the dog while I'm drinking the root 839 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: beer makes the root beer taste different. I don't know 840 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: that much about mug like. I don't know if it, 841 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: if it. I know that A and W. I think 842 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: A and W is like A what's it? What is 843 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: A and W under? I think they're under. 844 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: Oh? 845 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So there's the three. There's the three 846 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: big challengers in the soda beverage industry. There's Pepsi of 847 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: course to Pepsi and mug BrX is owned by Coke. Yeah, 848 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: and then uh, A and W is hold on, I 849 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: think a NWS by like Snapple. Let me let me 850 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: look at this an W. Yeah, A n W is 851 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: under doctor Pepper, doctor Pepper. I think doctor Yeah, Curig, 852 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: Curig Curig doctor Pepper is a publicly traded Oh I 853 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: didn't know that they merged. Okay, Curig doctor Pepper. Okay, yeah, 854 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: there we go. Okay, it used to be the doctor 855 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: Pepper Snapple group, and now it is the Curig doctor 856 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: Pepper group. So the doctor Pepper people, the Pepsi people, 857 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: and the Cola and the Coca Cola people are the 858 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: main competitors in the space, and they all have their 859 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: own root beer and I agree that I think mug 860 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: is the best of those. Oh I got I have. 861 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. What are what's your 862 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: opinion on root beer floats? How do you like a 863 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a vanilla ice cream in your root beer? 864 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 3: Honestly, that's like saying, like putting a cherry on top, 865 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: you know, No, you always put like cherries on top 866 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 3: of like a like a cat take or something. 867 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I just got the photo. I just got the photo. 868 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: Oh ship, there's so many people in here that I'm 869 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: not okay, hold on, wait let me sorry, go ahead, 870 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, it's got kind of. 871 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 3: So this is this is not my full root beer 872 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: collection I put it. I haven't taken a picture of 873 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 3: my my fullest one, Like the Rats one is not 874 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 3: on there. But this is like maybe a year ago, 875 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: but I added maybe another stack on top of that. 876 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: This is awesome. Okay, I've had I'm gonna go through 877 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: the ones I've had. Okay, you've got IBC. That one's 878 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't know if I've had the IBC 879 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: root beer. But I've definitely had the IBC cream Soda. 880 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: That ship's really good. Henry Wine Hard's, I've never had that. Stuarts. 881 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: That's a that's a sleeper pick. Yes, Stuart's. Stuarts has 882 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: an amazing orange creamsicle flavor. Have you ever had? 883 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 3: I had that? I had that one. 884 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Balls root beer? 885 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 3: Okay, that one's my favorite one. Actually, yeah, that was 886 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 3: my favorite one because I brought it home one day 887 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 3: and then my brother was like, you're really drinking balls 888 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 3: right now? And I was like, no, root beer? 889 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: Wait, balls is a Where have I seen this? Yeah? Okay, 890 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: I've seen Balls before as like, uh uh yeah, I've 891 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: seen it in like a classy blue soda before. But 892 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: I didn't know they had a root beer. So that's interesting. 893 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know river City. I don't 894 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: know river City. Oh look at this dang butterscotch root beer. 895 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: What was that? 896 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 3: Like? 897 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: Tell me about did they have how was. 898 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: The So that one is a little That one's a 899 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 3: little more on the sweeter side. 900 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: Right, it's got butterscotch. 901 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 902 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: Good. 903 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: That one's like probably the most seest one. 904 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: Jackson hole Buckin' root Beer virgils. I've had this one. Okay, 905 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: the Spreker fire brewed root beer. 906 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 3: They have, They have a couple of different types of those. 907 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 3: I have like maybe two more of those in that 908 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 3: new collection. 909 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: Okay, this one the root beer main roots. Where's that 910 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: one from? That looks familiar? 911 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 3: I got that? Do you know what Lake Lake Tahoe 912 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: in the in the Nevada? Sure, that's where I got 913 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 3: that one. And it's like, gave me like a forest 914 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 3: you feel, because I feel because Lake Child was kind 915 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 3: of like foresty and like I don't know, it's it 916 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 3: was just like the all the aesthetic around it. And 917 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 3: I was like, it just like called my name in 918 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 3: this little little tiny bakery I went too, and I 919 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 3: was like, hey, grab me. 920 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to backtrack real quick. The dang butterscotch root beer. 921 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: How heavy was the butterscotch? Could you taste the notes? 922 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 2: It was? 923 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 3: It was kind of like it was kind of like 924 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 3: a root beer float, honestly, not like but it had 925 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: like that it had that vanilla e like, oh, you 926 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: know if you there's like this root beer, Oh it's 927 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 3: it's it's like mug too where you make it like 928 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 3: kind of like cream it's like root beer. It's like 929 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 3: the cream style cream soda. 930 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,959 Speaker 1: And what's it called? 931 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 3: Okay, actually it's just cream soda. So that's kind of 932 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 3: what it tastes like if you had. 933 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, it just tastes like a regular cream soda. 934 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: All right, we have all right, here's the dads, which, 935 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: as you say, is your favorite. I've never seen Dad's 936 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: root Beer as just like sold in like a play. 937 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 1: I've just never seen it out and about. 938 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a spot by my house down town, 939 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: and uh, honestly it's pretty good. It's a gig sandwich spot, 940 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 3: so I like it. 941 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh shit, Dad, I'm on the Dad's root Beer website, 942 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: a website I never thought I would ever be on, 943 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: but it seems like they have a butt. Dad's has 944 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: all these whoa dude, holy tits? Have you ever seen 945 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: this before? Dad's old fashioned blue cream Soda? Have you 946 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: ever seen that? I'm not actually Dad's Blue cream Soda, 947 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: it says, it says Dad's Blue Cream Soda is almost 948 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: liquid with cotton candy with very heavy vanilla notes. That 949 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: sounds fucking insane. I'm dude. You can sign up for 950 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: a They have an email list. I'm signing up for 951 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 1: that they have Yeah, dude, you can write to them. 952 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 1: Nine to fifty South Saint Charles Street, Jasper, Indiana, four 953 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: seven five four six. 954 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 3: I'll miss it out. 955 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: They have merch. What do they have on? What's their 956 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: merch situation? You can buy a ooh ooh you see this. 957 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: They have a Dad's root beer mug. Imagine drinking Imagine 958 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,959 Speaker 1: drinking a Dad's root beer out of a Dad's root 959 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: beer mug. That sounds awesome. They have lip bomb. It 960 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: tastes like root beer. That's I don't I don't know. 961 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: If this mug you can sell, you can become a 962 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: real itter. Look at this. You can sell dads. Use 963 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: the contact form to reach out to be able to 964 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: sell dads at your location. Okay name, No, I'm not 965 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna fill that out. I don't have anything funny to 966 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: say while I fill that out. But uh, okay, I 967 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: could read the history of Dad's Rutier, but I won't. 968 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish your collection. Okay, you have dog and 969 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: what is this one? Say? Dog? And us dog and 970 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: SuDS dog and what dog? And SuDS Dog and SuDS Rutier. Okay, 971 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: how was that that one? 972 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 3: It was all right, just this is a regular root beer, 973 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 3: maybe like A and W type. So like all these 974 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 3: all these root beers bottles I based off my those 975 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 3: top three that you mentioned earlier, the mug A and 976 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 3: W and then barks. I rarely, I rarely rate them 977 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 3: as the bark style. It's usually A and W. But 978 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 3: like what the wing do the mugs those are like 979 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: like the dads maybe yeah, yeah, I like this. 980 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've developed your own you've developed your own ranking 981 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: style system where a BARX is a C an, a 982 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: n W is a B and a mug is an A. 983 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. But then the last one is Sioux City. 984 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: Sioux City. I saw that. I saw Sioux City. Okay, well, 985 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm where do you rank Sioux City? 986 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: That one's an abbie. Actually I had this one when 987 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 3: I was super drunk one night, and uh so, maybe 988 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 3: maybe it was a mug back then, but it's probably 989 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: an a wie mm hmm. Yeah. 990 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: You sober up and you really yeah, you sober up 991 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: and you realize that what you thought was a mug 992 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: is really a Sometimes it can be a box. 993 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 994 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: I see that you have lego flowers coming out of 995 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: a few of these bottles. I like that. 996 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Jruffer bought them for me, and then I 997 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 3: had no place to put them, so I chose the 998 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 3: three bottles that were probably I think I chose these 999 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 3: because there were mugs. They were the mug rating like 1000 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 3: the virgils, and. 1001 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: Then oh, okay you gave you gave literal flowers to 1002 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: the mugs. Ranking okay, so Henry all right. So for 1003 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: the people who can't see this image, the Henry wine 1004 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: Hearts has a flower in it, so that's a mug rating. 1005 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,479 Speaker 1: The Virgil has a flower in it, that's a mug grating. 1006 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: And then the Dads has a flower in it. So 1007 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: those are are those are? Those are three mugs out 1008 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: of the whole collection. 1009 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have a cup. I don't put 1010 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 3: flowers in the I think I have one more mugs, 1011 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 3: but I'm blanking on the name of it. Dude, I 1012 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 3: need to send you that updated picture because they have 1013 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 3: like another stack on top of this one picture. 1014 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: Can can you send me that? Can you send me 1015 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: that other picture? How far? How so this is from 1016 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: a year ago? 1017 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I'm actually coming home from work right now, 1018 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 3: so I don't I'm not in access of my rootbeer 1019 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 3: collection right now, But next time you're live, I'll just 1020 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 3: send you a picture or something. 1021 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: So okay, let me count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Okay, 1022 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: right now, there's thirteen bottles in this picture. How many 1023 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: bottles do you think you have? Now? 1024 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 3: Probably twenty six? Only? 1025 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: Shit? Okay? 1026 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1027 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: How far away are you from your house right now? 1028 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 3: I about forty minutes? 1029 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: Okay? 1030 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 3: All right, Well, yeah, I'll have to send you it later. 1031 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: All right, you'll have to send me it later. What's 1032 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: the give? What? What's the root beer that you've heard 1033 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: of in passing that you have not yet tasted but 1034 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: would like to taste one day? 1035 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 3: Uh, that's a good question because it's usually like because 1036 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm more of a of a fake type of guy, 1037 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 3: like all my my pet animals I've gotten like from 1038 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 3: like them coming to me. You know. It's like like 1039 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 3: I said earlier about that main room beer, like it 1040 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 3: just called my name. Like as soon as I walk 1041 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 3: to a store, I look in like the soda section 1042 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: just to see if they have one. But you know, 1043 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm not just not a lot of my friends are 1044 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 3: a root beer type of guy. Actually, my brother is 1045 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: is more. I'm a doctor pepper guy, and uh so 1046 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 3: we don't really see eye to eye. But I mean, 1047 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 3: it's just whenever I see it, I just grab it. 1048 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't I haven't had any hurt or I haven't 1049 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: heard any I traveled yet. 1050 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: So I like that you. I like that you. I 1051 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: like that you let fate bring the right routiers to you. 1052 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 3: And that's just a good, uh good lifestyle for me 1053 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: at least. I can't speak for everyone, but I like 1054 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 3: that lifestyle as just a person. 1055 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel somebody? If someone out 1056 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: there wants to start collecting rupier bottles, what advice would 1057 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: you give to them? 1058 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 3: Just some I mean, just amongst your travels. Just go 1059 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 3: to the local corner store and just look in the 1060 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 3: soda section. If they don't have any, just you just 1061 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 3: gotta move on. Not much, not so much to it. Also, 1062 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 3: restaurants have them too, sometimes if you ask a routier 1063 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 3: and then you can sometimes ask them for the bottle. 1064 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel like collecting root beer has given you 1065 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: a good perspective on the idea of just moving on 1066 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 1: in general? You know, has it let you be better 1067 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: at that? What do you mean, like you know you said, 1068 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: if they don't have root beer, then you just move on, 1069 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm I guess I'm trying to take 1070 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: your root beer collecting and apply it to your broader 1071 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: life in some sense. No, actually not really, well then 1072 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: never mind. 1073 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 3: What's your name, ages, It's Elias with a. 1074 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Z, Elias, Elias, thank you for sharing this. This has 1075 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: been an incredibly enjoyable twenty minutes for me. 1076 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 3: Me toon therapy, get go. 1077 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1078 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1079 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: Keep drinking root beer? 1080 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Beautiful? Thank you, Elias. 1081 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1082 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: That was That was incredibly enjoyable for me, folks. I 1083 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: think I'm going to end the podcast today by reading 1084 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: a few emails. I like that I've gotten a little 1085 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: drip in of of GEK mails and I figured I 1086 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: would read a few of them. I'll also talk a 1087 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: little bit about my trip to Iraq. I don't know 1088 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: if I'm going to do a whole thing about it, 1089 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: but it was really it was amazing. I mean, it 1090 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: was so un like what my expectations were of what 1091 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: it would be like. That's the main thing I want 1092 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: to say. I'll say everything that I really want to 1093 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: say when the video is out, because that's it's gonna 1094 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: take me a full month to edit it, at least 1095 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: a month at least, So I'm aiming for like, no, 1096 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm aiming for like the very beginning of November to 1097 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: get the full video out there. But yeah, it was. 1098 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: It was great. People were so fucking nice to us. 1099 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Like the very first day we were there, these like 1100 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: two police officers holding like big ass AK forty seven's 1101 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: just like came up to us and they were like, 1102 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: where are you guys from, how you guys doing? Welcome 1103 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: to Iraq, and then they gave us some SIGs and 1104 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: then one of them like invited us to get lunch 1105 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: with him and his mom. We had we just had 1106 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: interactions like that all the time, where like I don't know, 1107 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: people would just be really chill and really respectful and 1108 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: really uh really really nice. I wish I could. I'm 1109 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: glad that I went and I and I took a 1110 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: bunch of video because I'm kind of shit about explaining 1111 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: it with my words, but yeah, it was a great time. 1112 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Please please go somebscribe to YouTube dot com slash lyle 1113 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: forever so that when I post the video in a 1114 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: month you can see it because it's it's it's one 1115 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: of my favorite things I've I've done in my gecko career. Anyway, 1116 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: let's read a few emails and then we'll get the 1117 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: fuck out of here, all right. This is from Ali 1118 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: subject line af af fantasia. Am I saying this correctly? 1119 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Afantasia fanta Okay? Hi Lyle. I wanted to email because 1120 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I recently learned I have something called afantasia and inability 1121 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: to form mental images, and it's been a crazy revelation 1122 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: for me. I never realized I was missing something until now. 1123 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: When I imagine things, I don't see them, I feel their 1124 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: presence or I know certain facts about them. If I 1125 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: picture a forest, I can tell you how quiet or 1126 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: loud it might be, how tall the trees are, how 1127 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: the evening sun paints an orange. But none of that 1128 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: is an image. It's more like a list of facts 1129 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: that my mind creates. Interestingly, I do see things in 1130 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: my dreams, sometimes very clearly, and sometimes when I'm between 1131 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: being awake and asleep, I'll catch moments of imagery and 1132 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,919 Speaker 1: what I assume is the way other people see their 1133 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: thoughts all the time. Interesting, I've been thinking about this 1134 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: a lot lately, I feel spiteful that others have this 1135 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 1: skill and I don't. I'm really tired at the time 1136 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: of writing this, so I'm sorry if I sound insane. 1137 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Afantasia isn't something I like to talk about to people 1138 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: in real life, but I'd love to hear your perspective. 1139 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: How do you see in your head? Thanks for reading this. 1140 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: That's interesting. That part about like how I part about, Like, oh, 1141 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I can almost catch a glimpse of what a thought 1142 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: might feel like when I dream, but it's like elusive. 1143 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. How do I see in my head? 1144 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm imagining boobs right now, but they they're like cartoon. 1145 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm imagining that. It's like when I try to imagine 1146 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: boobs is like a painting of it. Okay, I just 1147 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: did it. I just imagined like a normal, like human boobs, 1148 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: but it felt like a wickied. It felt like I 1149 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: was looking at like the Wikipedia page for boobs. It 1150 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: was a very non sexual image. Anything I could tell 1151 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 1: you about how I see in my head would be 1152 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: it would be fake because I'd be trying, like right, 1153 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: like if I try to, like not like when I 1154 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: like naturally imagine things, because I'm like trying to imagine something. 1155 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm trying to imagine like a gecko. I'm 1156 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: imagining the gecko lizard emojive. I can see it. This 1157 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: is a weird exercise to do right now. This feels 1158 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: kind of achadelic. I feel like I'm like entering and 1159 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: exiting my head because yeah, I can see it. I 1160 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: know what it feels like to imagine something. I guess 1161 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. Is this a real condition? 1162 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 2: Now? 1163 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're lying, but I'm JUSTO, you know 1164 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Okay, I'm googling it. Affantasia is 1165 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the inability to form or access mental images in one's mind, 1166 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: often referred to as lacking a mind's eye. The phenomenon 1167 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: was first described by Francis Galton in eighteen eighty. Who 1168 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 1: the hell was this guy? Francis Galton? He's dead now, 1169 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why. That's the only thing I have 1170 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to say about him. I mean, it's not the only thing. 1171 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: He invented fanta and he's dead. He died in nineteen eleven. 1172 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: That's one hundred years ago. At least. He's known for 1173 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: regression towards the mean. Okay, we can stop reading about 1174 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: this guy. Thank you for sharing this. Ali. Okay, this 1175 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: is from Let's see. This is from Cherry. Subject line 1176 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: the void made me send this. Hi, Lyle, my name 1177 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: is Cherry, and I don't really know how to start 1178 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: this without sounding either incredibly self important or totally unhinged. 1179 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Maybe both. I've listened to your show for a few 1180 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 1: years now, mostly at work, but also sometimes on long 1181 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: drives when I want to hear someone else speak fluently 1182 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: to the void. I know this is strange. I know 1183 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I am strange, but I also know myself well enough 1184 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: to trust when I feel something important. And this feels 1185 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: important in the way weird things often do. I think 1186 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: we might be the same kind of person, whatever that means. 1187 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be dramatic. It's just the way 1188 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: you talk, the way your thoughts loop and land and 1189 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: reach sideways into the absurd and intimate at the same time. 1190 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: That is how I think. That's how I feel and navigate. 1191 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Like we both tuned into the same haunted radio station 1192 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and decided to keep listening. That's very poetic. This is 1193 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: let's keep going anyway. I'm rambling, I'm nervous, I definitely 1194 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: smoked a bowler two. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong. 1195 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm not asking for anything, not trying to get on 1196 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: the show. I just don't often find my flavor of 1197 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 1: weird reflected in other people, and I guess I wanted 1198 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: to let you know that I exist somewhere out here, 1199 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: not expecting a reply, but also kind of hoping for one. 1200 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Not a fan of talking on the phone, but maybe 1201 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 1: in the next life we can talk on the phone 1202 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 1: for approximately seven to thirty minutes. It's nice that she 1203 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: clocked exactly how much time most people here spend on 1204 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: the show talking. It's approximately seven to thirty minutes. Thanks 1205 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: for being one of the few people who makes you 1206 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,640 Speaker 1: feel like less of an anomaly. PS. So sorry, I 1207 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 1: just reread that email. But fuck, are we ball Cherry? 1208 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: How do I respond to this? I don't know. I 1209 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's that weird of an email. I don't 1210 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: think I don't think it's that particularly star. I don't 1211 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: think you would listen to the show. I think it's 1212 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: a legitimate reason to want to like to listen to like. 1213 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: When I think about like podcasts I listen to, or 1214 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 1: comedians I like, and things like that, I guess I do. 1215 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate them because they have a similar I feel like, 1216 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can see myself in this person's brain, 1217 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's this is weird. You know 1218 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: this makes sense. I don't know if I have a 1219 01:09:54,439 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: good response to it, although I guess I just did respond. 1220 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I hope you're doing all right, Cherry. It was very 1221 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 1: pigh like this. I like, I know that you feel 1222 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: weird about this email, but it's poetic. I like it. 1223 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: We both tuned into the same haunted radio station and 1224 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: decided to keep listening. It's it makes me think about 1225 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: how I'm being perceived when I talk on this fucking 1226 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 1: thing and I get I'm, I'm, I'm I'm this email. 1227 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: It makes me feel like it's a good perception. This 1228 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 1: email makes me feel like I exist. So okay, I'm good. 1229 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm glad. This makes me feel like I also exist 1230 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: in a way. So thank you. Thank you for making 1231 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: me also feel as though I exist by reflecting that 1232 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: my existence somehow makes sense to you. You know what 1233 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean? That was a mutually beneficial email. Okay, let's 1234 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 1: do one more, all right. This is from someone subject 1235 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 1: line I cut open dead people for a day and 1236 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 1: now I can't get over it. Hey Gek, I'm a 1237 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: pre med student working through my undergrad degree and recently 1238 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 1: shadowed a forensic pathologist, the type of doctor who does autopsies. 1239 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: It was an insanely eye opening experience, and though I've 1240 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: never had a fear of death, autopsying approximately ten people 1241 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: has really changed my perspective on a lot of things, 1242 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: mainly that we are all just bags of flesh and 1243 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: are way more fragile than we think we are. During 1244 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: the autopsies, you have to go through all the organs, 1245 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: plus cut the skull open and gross the brain, which 1246 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,520 Speaker 1: is a very inhumane experience. Obviously, I know it's necessary 1247 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 1: to determine the cause of death, and I literally work 1248 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,680 Speaker 1: with organs and tissues every day. Just something about the 1249 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: physical dismemberment of a human is mentally jarring, and every 1250 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 1: instinct you have is screaming at you to see stop 1251 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: and run, kind of like the whole Uncanny Valley thing, 1252 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,520 Speaker 1: which comes from our recognition of decaying humans and subsequent 1253 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 1: flight response. Halfway through the workday, I went to grab 1254 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: lunch and it all hit me. At the same time 1255 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: I was trying to eat a spam musubi, which apparently 1256 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: has the same fleshy sponginess as livers do. I couldn't 1257 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 1: eat meat for weeks, and I couldn't stop thinking about 1258 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: how everyone in that morgue were people I could have 1259 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: had classes with or passed on the street. I think 1260 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 1: about those patients and their families every day, and the 1261 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: experience has made me so much more passionate about medicine, 1262 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 1: because half of those deaths were completely medically avoidable if 1263 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: those people received the correct care. I don't regret the 1264 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: experience at all, but I don't think I'll ever really 1265 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 1: be the same. Do you have any thoughts. Well, I'm 1266 01:12:53,600 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a billion thoughts. It's all shit I've been 1267 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: talking about on here before. But yeah, I think a 1268 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: lot about our own fragility. I try not to. I 1269 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: try not to, because, like bro coming to terms with 1270 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: your own fragility as a human being and the fragility 1271 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: of the universe and the transient nature of time and 1272 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: all this existential stuff. It's a crazy ride, I think, 1273 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 1: if you're alive, I think it's a good ride to take, 1274 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: but it becomes at at some point just like incompatible 1275 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 1: with like normal ass life and I got to that. 1276 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I got to that point and I thought I would 1277 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 1: never be able to leave it, and I and I did, 1278 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 1: and that not you know, I don't know if I 1279 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: ever left it whatever, but I thought I would never 1280 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: be able to just like live normal fucking human being 1281 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:55,919 Speaker 1: life after having really felt like I went there mentally. 1282 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: But now I have, and it's it's good. It's good 1283 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: to know. I think you should take the ride if 1284 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: you'd never taken the ride. But yeah, I try not 1285 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: to think about this stuff as much as I I 1286 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: try to know, I don't try not to think about 1287 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: the stuff. I try to think about the stuff optimally, 1288 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,679 Speaker 1: try to think about the stuff just enough to keep 1289 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: my ass in shape and ignore it just enough to 1290 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 1: keep my ass sane. You know, I'm glad it's made 1291 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: you more passionate. And the fact that you say you 1292 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: won't ever be the same, I don't think. I don't 1293 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: think I'm the same after having my crazy, fucking existential crisis. 1294 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: But that's good, but you but I feel. But I 1295 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: also I think in order to go there, I had 1296 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 1: to lose touch with certain parts of myself, and that 1297 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 1: felt scary. The idea that I would uh that in 1298 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: order to gain this kind of clarity, I had to 1299 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 1: give give away certain things, but I got I got 1300 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: all that stuff back. I feel so I feel like 1301 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I feel like i'm not. I feel like 1302 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: I've been come more whole as a result of kind 1303 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: of facing my own fragility. I haven't fucking faid. I 1304 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: don't think I would want to face it in the 1305 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,639 Speaker 1: way that you have faced it. I'm sorry. That's a lot. 1306 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot, but uh, you know you're you're in medicine. 1307 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: It's what you do. Uh, And it's a noble thing 1308 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: to do what you do. I mean, I don't want 1309 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 1: to That's that's why it's noble. I don't want to 1310 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,679 Speaker 1: fucking do it. So, but someone has to do. Someone 1311 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: has to cut open dead guys. Someone has to do it, bro, 1312 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: someone has to cut open dead guys. And I'm glad, 1313 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: and I am glad that it's you and it's not me, 1314 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: And it's noble of it to be you. So you 1315 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: should be proud of yourself for cutting open dead folks. 1316 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 1: It's not an easy thing to do, and I'm glad 1317 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 1: that it's made you more passionate. Let that be Look, 1318 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,560 Speaker 1: because that's the thing, right is like you you you 1319 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: face it and you're fucking terrifying, but you're using it 1320 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 1: to actually like do work. And that's when you're the 1321 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: least terrified, I think, is when you're in the flow 1322 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 1: state and when you're working, and when you're like have 1323 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: some kind of mission, right, Because you could easily open 1324 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,719 Speaker 1: look at all these dead people and have it drag 1325 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: you into nihilism. But it didn't. It dragged you quite 1326 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: the opposite, into into being passionate about keeping people alive. 1327 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's awesome. I think that's great. So that's 1328 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: my thoughts on this email is that you know, what 1329 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,240 Speaker 1: you experienced sounds like it was really jarring and crazy 1330 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 1: and life altering in terms of your perception of life. 1331 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 1: But it didn't fucking take you into nihilism. It didn't 1332 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: make you go, we're all bags of flesh and we 1333 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,559 Speaker 1: don't fucking matter. It took you deeper into your own 1334 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 1: fucking humanity. That's what I love about this email is 1335 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: it took you deeper into your own humanity. Humanity being 1336 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: a thing that you know is kind of beyond us 1337 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 1: that we don't understand. That's like getting us away from 1338 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: our own nihilism and into let's fucking do something, you know, 1339 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: let's let's keep being more passionate about medicine and fucking 1340 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: making it so less people die. It's cool. I like it. 1341 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: I think I think I think you took a good 1342 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 1: direction with it. I saw it. I saw a dead chicken, 1343 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: like it's a raw dead chicken, and I was like, yo, 1344 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 1: it's crazy. How like you go to chick fil a 1345 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: and like everything's like white and nice and polished and 1346 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 1: like that, Like there's marketing and they have like Instagram, 1347 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like a like the capital the 1348 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: capitalistic guysation whatever of like killing a bunch of chickens 1349 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to make it like a nice, fun, happy, cool thing, 1350 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 1: even though it's like killing a bunch of fucking living things. 1351 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,639 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. I don't say that. I'm totally 1352 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: I love Chick fil A. I'm gonna keep eating there 1353 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: and enjoying it and loving loving it. I might go 1354 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 1: there right after this. I'm not. This isn't like a 1355 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 1: peta rant, but it is. You gotta think about it 1356 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. All right. That's the podcast. That's it. 1357 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,640 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening, Thanks for being here. My 1358 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 1: name is Lyle. I'm a gecko. I don't know. If 1359 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to say, uh, follow me 1360 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 1: on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever. That's what 1361 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna post all of my Iraq stuff. I'll i'll 1362 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: talk about it more if someone calls in and asks 1363 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,679 Speaker 1: me about it. I can't really just I'm not gonna 1364 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 1: rant about it, but I'll also talk about it on 1365 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: that video when I put it out in a month. Anyway, whatever, 1366 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm Lyle, I'm crazy. I'm a gecko. Thanks for listening. 1367 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 1: See you again Wednesday. Gek bless everythin goes on the line, 1368 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 1: thanking your phone calls every night. Everything goes, And I'm 1369 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: teaching you a loud mean of your line expert