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Speaker 2: Let's give this.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: South Florida with a cover.

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Speaker 4: Huh, it's a march is all about?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a win for seth.

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Speaker 5: Good teams, winn great teams. Cover.

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Speaker 4: All right, put it on the poll.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Colin Cowherd and think about it

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Chris Sim's going to join us in about

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. If the high point coach doesn't wow, let's

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Speaker 1: hear me drowning in my own flem again. But I

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Speaker 1: am wondering, here are their challenges with coaching your own kid.

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Speaker 4: It was still in your mouth the second half of

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Speaker 4: that question. It was in there.

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Speaker 1: I've done worse and you've heard it.

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Speaker 6: The one clip that they've played from the first time

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Speaker 6: it happened to you are the worst time it ever

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Speaker 6: happened to you on the show with your name on it.

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Speaker 4: I'm with Lewis on this one. It hurts like I

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Speaker 4: have to. If I ever have air pods on, I.

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Speaker 6: Will immediately eject them from my ears and throw them

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Speaker 6: to different sides of the room because I don't want

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Speaker 6: to hear the rest.

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for a lifeguard to jump in and

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Speaker 1: say to me, I was drowning that badly in.

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Speaker 4: My own flap.

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Speaker 1: I want to do think about it Thursday, because it's

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Speaker 1: a good question. But before we get to that, I

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Speaker 1: want to think about what Colin Coward did with his bracket.

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Speaker 1: And so Taylor please explain to Israel, to Me, to Mikey,

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Speaker 1: to everyone and the audience what it is Colin did

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Speaker 1: with his bracket.

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Speaker 7: So Colin Coward filled out a bracket. Everybody wants to

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Speaker 7: know who Colin Coward has cutting down the nets. So

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Speaker 7: in his bracket he has Yukon beating Michigan State in

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Speaker 7: the Sweet sixteen, right, and then Michigan State come back

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Speaker 7: from being eliminated and then beating Dunk in the elite.

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Speaker 1: That's what march is all about. I mean, I got

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Speaker 1: a second chances, and if that happens, he's gonna win

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Speaker 1: the pool.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's no Mark DEROZI helped him always ahead

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Speaker 6: of the game.

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Speaker 1: This call it.

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Speaker 7: That's the dangers of filling out the bracket with pen

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Speaker 7: and paper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. Or as you're getting old.

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Speaker 6: I just had that experience today, Taylor, where this morning

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, I hadn't filled out my

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Speaker 6: Fox one yet, let me do that officially. So it's

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Speaker 6: ten in the morning, and man makes it so easy.

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Speaker 6: It's just click click, click, click click. You don't even

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Speaker 6: have to scroll the side to side. You don't have

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Speaker 6: to think about who's in what region. Just pick a winner,

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Speaker 6: keep all the thought process out of it.

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Speaker 1: So can I hear this again before we get to

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Speaker 1: think about it Thursday? Exactly what did he do? He

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Speaker 1: had who beating who in the sweet sixteen?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so he has Yukon beating Michigan State in the

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Speaker 7: sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 4: All right, so hard to get stops out.

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Speaker 1: So Michigan State is out and Yukon has advanced, and

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Speaker 1: then he and then he has what happening?

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Speaker 5: He has Michigan State beating Huke and.

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Speaker 8: The what happened to you?

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Speaker 5: Gott don't want to talk about it?

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Speaker 6: In Michigan State, the resurrection baby the way, what is

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Speaker 6: happening to Duke? They're down nine or down eleven at halftime?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long halftime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of fud.

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Speaker 7: Don't think about it though, That's one you just kind

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Speaker 7: of have to let the game come to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's play the imaging again for Think About It Thursday.

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Speaker 3: You know that segment talk About It Tuesday on Hawkman

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Speaker 3: Crowder in Soleiro, This is like that, but bigger, bigger

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Speaker 3: and better, better, better, And forty eight hours later, this

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Speaker 3: is think About It Thursday.

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Speaker 7: So for the people who weren't here for the first hour,

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Speaker 7: the question for Think About It Thursday, who is the

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Speaker 7: worst current NBA player that you could put on a

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Speaker 7: sixteen seed that could then go on to win the

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Speaker 7: NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: So we're not going to explain to people that, you know,

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Speaker 6: Washington State who Hawkman, Crowder and Selearro are.

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Speaker 4: And then we're gonna let that image and go.

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Speaker 1: We have discussed hawk at length on this show, and

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Speaker 1: I said Taylor's counter programming a local show down here

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Speaker 1: in Miami, the afternoon show on Well, I can't say

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Speaker 1: the station.

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Speaker 8: That's what Google is for.

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Speaker 7: They do they do talk about it Tuesday. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 7: this is very different. This is think about it third.

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Speaker 6: And as the imaging said forty eight hours later, yes, god,

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Speaker 6: what an opening day of marsh. So as I was

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Speaker 6: thinking about this before Fred Hoiberg called Taylor, when you

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Speaker 6: had this in mind, you just cared about like what

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Speaker 5: What level of player?

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Speaker 6: Okay, because the guy that I have, I think is

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Speaker 6: probably even below the level that you would consider somebody

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Speaker 6: and they've got one or two shooters on their team.

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Speaker 6: You need one rebounder, just one little pogo stick maybe

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Speaker 6: matter who that other player is, just making a decent

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Speaker 6: defender whatever. And then this player, so this player has

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Speaker 6: to be great at isolation, has to be sort of

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Speaker 6: a microwave, right, has to be able to either give you,

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Speaker 6: you know, ten straight points before you could even blink, right,

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Speaker 6: or just you know, keep drawing the defense and you know,

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Speaker 6: hitting his shooters for three after three.

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Speaker 1: After so, Benny Johnson, I mean, well, he said, current right, current, current, Now, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: did you want to give me a couple of names

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Speaker 1: and see if that's like somebody.

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Speaker 4: That you or think that I would choose, or do

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Speaker 4: you just want me to give you who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 7: So you give me who you're talking about, and then

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna cross check your player with the Ringers NBA rankings,

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Speaker 7: and then I'm going to look around that player and

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Speaker 6: So here's my problem is, I don't think my player's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you ready for the name? Yep, it's Cam Thomas.

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Speaker 6: Cam Thomas now of the Milwaukee Bucks, formerly of the

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Speaker 4: He is the type of scorer.

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Speaker 6: That I mean, you give him thirty eight minutes in

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Speaker 6: eight these days. Like if you take him now this

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Speaker 6: you know, the skill set, that refined skill set that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that guy can win six straight games

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Speaker 1: That list is a top one hundred list, not a

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Speaker 4: No, I mean it's a top ninety nine list.

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Speaker 6: The one we're reading is the top one hundred list

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Speaker 6: of all time. The one Taylor's referring to is another

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Speaker 6: one that bleacher Board did. Great listach ring Sorry the ringer,

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Speaker 6: my bad. There is a top one hundred too many media.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at a totally different list, am I bad?

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Speaker 5: So Cam Thomas is not on that list?

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Speaker 6: Okay, wow, So did I ruin the game? That's why

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Speaker 6: I wanted to see if you wanted to do it

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Speaker 6: in reverse.

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Speaker 1: I felt like Cam to ruin.

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Speaker 8: The game when you asked five questions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean really, I mean it's unbelievable how he

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Speaker 1: breaks these things down.

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Speaker 5: Win.

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Speaker 1: It's think about it Thursday. But don't think too much.

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Speaker 8: I mean, answer the question Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Part of the rules.

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Speaker 6: I did not get. Answer the question Thursday does not work.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't sound right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking on this this Ringer list. Mkel Bridges

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Speaker 7: is fifty seven. Does mckel bridges win a title?

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Speaker 6: No, because that's what I'm talking about. That's not the

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Speaker 6: type of player like Mikal Bridge is at number fifty seven.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't know if I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I haven't really looked at the rest of the list.

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Speaker 6: But that's not he is not a takeover offensive type

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Speaker 6: only option there. Looked like he could score forty on

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Speaker 4: I just don't I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: Does Norm Powell win an NC DOUBLEA championship?

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Speaker 4: Norms A? Norms a good one.

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Speaker 6: I know that's a good one. Why having watched him,

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Speaker 6: Here's forty six on this list.

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Speaker 4: We're thinking about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if the referees understand how to call shooting fouls,

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Speaker 6: then yes, then I think Norman Powell will absolutely be

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Speaker 4: Six games as the headman on the What did you

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Speaker 7: Again, no current current day NBA player on the team.

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Speaker 7: What about Austin Reeves? Does Austin Reeves that's a great one.

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Speaker 5: No, No, he doesn't. We saw Cooper flag last year

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Speaker 5: he lost in the tournum.

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Speaker 6: Right, he's overrated, Yes, although he's better this year than

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Speaker 6: he was marginally like, drop him in right now. He's

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Speaker 4: But what name did you just mention there?

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Speaker 5: Austin Reeves thirty six on this list?

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Speaker 6: I think Austin Reeves. Yes, he can be one of

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Speaker 6: those players because he can absolutely fill up a score

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Speaker 6: sheet like and because he's so good at drawing fouls.

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Speaker 6: And again, if these officials know how to call fouls properly,

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Speaker 6: I think he could absolutely do it.

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Speaker 1: How about your boy Keante George.

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Speaker 4: Not quite big ticket o KG. Yeah, I think he's.

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Speaker 6: A little too small and a little too not liking

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Speaker 4: I think some people might call himseff a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if he is necessarily gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to carry that.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna keep going up this list that the

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Speaker 7: Ringer has. Karl Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, today's Carl Anthony Dominate y.

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely that guy.

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Speaker 6: He'll shoot from thirty eight and then just come back

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Speaker 6: and pound in the paint for another you know, ten

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Speaker 6: straight possessions, right, I think got oh, man.

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Speaker 4: He would have so much fun with him at Sienna.

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Speaker 6: Could you imagine all these little dudes at Sienna just

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Speaker 6: I think bam out of Baio looks at every college

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Speaker 6: Look, my answer to Kanka Nipple is no rookies. No rookies, okay,

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Speaker 4: People will look at him like he's weird. You're so old.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I have another name suggestion to throw it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because I absolutely love Derek White. Like

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Speaker 1: I have a good one. I think again, a guy

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, he would take it so seriously. That guy's

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Speaker 1: Best athlete in college basketball right now.

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Speaker 6: He's definitely not nearing a triple double in terms of

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Speaker 1: We love them. We miss some football seasons over. I'm

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be nervous about it. It's okay, you still

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Speaker 5: Look at that. He's a winner.

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Speaker 11: And that's where everybody gets messed up in this whole process.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your your quarterback

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Speaker 11: watched through the film and started to dig through it, No,

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Speaker 11: Mendoza's the freaking man. Mendoza doesn't miss. Mendoza is a

443
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Speaker 11: really good athlete. Mendoza's tough as hell. Mendoza is just

444
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Speaker 11: one good decision after another. Mendoza makes the hard stuff

445
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Speaker 11: look so easy that we actually, I think, discredit for him.

446
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Speaker 5: That's what I kind of took away from it, were

447
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Speaker 5: we kind of pooh pooed, like.

448
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Speaker 11: Oh, there he is getting hit in the face, throwing

449
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Speaker 11: a back shoulder twenty five yards down the field on

450
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Speaker 11: the money. Oh you know, he's a dork. He looked

451
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Speaker 11: in the camera and talks like this, like no, no.

452
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Speaker 5: No, he's the man. He's the man.

453
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Speaker 11: Yes, so, and ty Simpson's really good, but there's some

454
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Speaker 11: little deficiencies is and mechanics throwing the football. At times,

455
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Speaker 11: he's a phenomenal athlete. I mean he makes them unbelievable

456
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 11: moving around, oh, throwing the ball in weird positions and

457
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Speaker 11: still getting power there.

458
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Speaker 5: Incredible that way, but he.

459
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Speaker 11: Also at the end of the year was a little

460
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Speaker 11: off target because of some of those mechanics. And what

461
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Speaker 11: I do worry about with ty Simpson is he's six

462
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Speaker 11: to one. He's he's two hundred and twelve at the combine.

463
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Speaker 11: He was probably one ninety something during the NFL the

464
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Speaker 11: college season, And I do worry about that size and

465
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Speaker 11: how that translates. And I always worry about size, as

466
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Speaker 11: you guys know. So yeah, I liked him a lot.

467
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Speaker 11: He's certainly in the first round conversation, but I think

468
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Speaker 11: the gap between him and Mendoz is bigger than Love

469
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Speaker 11: and Jadari and Mikeye.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like Mendoza surprised you. Is that fair ing

471
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Speaker 1: that yeah, No.

472
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Speaker 11: I was not expecting that kind of stuff there. I

473
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Speaker 11: was not you know, I think that you realize, like

474
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Speaker 11: I had things in my note, hey good arm, you know,

475
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Speaker 11: a really good arm, not a wow arm. And then

476
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Speaker 11: like three sentence later, so I'm like, sentences later, I'm like, well,

477
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 11: check that it is a wow arm. I didn't realize

478
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Speaker 11: when he's on the gas like that he can do that,

479
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Speaker 11: and you know, so that's.

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Speaker 5: The amazing thing.

481
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Speaker 11: And then there's there's a lot of plays too where

482
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Speaker 11: you know, again I think we just kind of swept

483
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Speaker 11: it on the rug where pressure he moves, he runs

484
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Speaker 11: a little bit, and then he sets back up with

485
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 11: really quick feet, makes a big throw.

486
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Speaker 5: Down the field and you just go, it's phenomenal.

487
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Speaker 11: He's the most machine I've seen as far as quarterback.

488
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Speaker 11: And I wrote this, it's Joe burrow ish and it's

489
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Speaker 11: processing and his ability to stay growing. Yeah, it's Joe Burrow.

490
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Speaker 11: You go, oh, he read one. It wasn't there. Oh

491
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Speaker 11: he read two, and you're like, what he did? He

492
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Speaker 11: even look at three and he's already kind of throwing

493
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Speaker 11: and processed it and it's open. And that's to me

494
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Speaker 11: where he's got a little bit of that Burrow Peyton

495
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 11: Manning aspect about him, and then if you meet him

496
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 11: in person, you're like, oh gosh, you are like Peyton Manning.

497
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Speaker 5: You're prepared for everything, you.

498
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Speaker 11: Know everything about everybody, and you're that guy, right, And

499
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Speaker 11: I give him credit for that. Yeah, I that the

500
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 11: wrong way. I go, know what you're getting mad about?

501
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 11: Because he's prepared and he wants to be impressive.

502
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Speaker 5: That's a good thing.

503
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Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of Burrow, are you a little worried about

504
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Speaker 2: Mendoza going into a similar situation as Burrow where he's

505
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: gonna go and guess what, good luck, there's no offensive

506
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Speaker 2: line here to help you.

507
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Speaker 11: No, I I guess yes, But but I think they

508
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 11: realize that too. And of course, you know that's the

509
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Speaker 11: you know, the Raiders, And I'm sure that was the

510
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 11: disappointment of the Max Crosby trade just because hey, yeah,

511
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 11: we're gonna have two first rounders. We're gonna be able

512
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Speaker 11: to build around him and do stuff like that. But

513
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Speaker 11: you know, the one thing, I'll say, you get the

514
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 11: center and Linderbaum, you got an offensive head coach who

515
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 11: understands how to run the ball and understands how to

516
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Speaker 11: protect and not to put the quarterback in vulnerable positions.

517
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Speaker 11: And that's why you love Mendoza the Raiders, because Mendoza

518
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 11: ran a ton of play action at Indiana and he's

519
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 11: gonna do a ton of that with Kun Kubiak, who

520
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 11: runs that Shanahan scheme, and that it should fit Mike ye.

521
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Speaker 11: I think they'll be all right, and I think they'll make,

522
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Speaker 11: you know, a concerted effort to improve that old line

523
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 11: uh in the draft and even maybe further on here

524
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Speaker 11: and for you agency.

525
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Speaker 1: The Vikings, according to Diana Rassini today, have decided to

526
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Speaker 1: bring back Carson Wentz. What's going on with JJ McCarthy man.

527
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Speaker 11: Well, they're just protecting themselves. I think it's pretty you know.

528
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Speaker 12: It's it's so JJ McCarthy is played one year and

529
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 12: he's got injured what three different times, and then the

530
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 12: other year he couldn't even get to the year he

531
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Speaker 12: got hurt in the preseason.

532
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Speaker 5: So they got to worry about that.

533
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Speaker 11: And then you got Kyler Murray who's small, he's one,

534
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 11: you know, getting smushed into the ground.

535
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Speaker 5: You're like, oh, he's done for a few weeks. He

536
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 5: got smushed like he's done. It's so what do we do?

537
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Speaker 11: So I think, you know, Carson Wentz gives them a

538
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 11: little protection for two guys that have had a little

539
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Speaker 11: injury history, and I think it's more about that. It's

540
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 11: more about that they have a good football team and

541
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Speaker 11: they looked at it and probably went, man, we messed

542
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 11: up some years because we didn't have adequate backups here

543
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Speaker 11: to save us.

544
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Speaker 2: But you don't see that Carson Wentz chose to go back.

545
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Speaker 2: Maybe they gave him some indication that you are the

546
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Speaker 2: number two. Well he sees blood in the water.

547
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Speaker 11: He just goes, wait, I don't have a lot of

548
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Speaker 11: opportunities here, and this is one where, you know, I

549
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 11: think next to these guys every day, I can show

550
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Speaker 11: that I'm you know, I'm right up there with them

551
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 11: a little bit and yeah, maybe be a number two

552
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 11: or he's just sitting here going wait, I can be

553
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Speaker 11: with O'Connell. If I do get a chance to go in,

554
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 11: I know it's a place I can look good and hey,

555
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 11: these guys get hurt, so I could end up in

556
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 11: the football game. And you just want to put yourself

557
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 11: in a spot where you know you can succeed if

558
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 11: you do get in. And I think that's where it's

559
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Speaker 11: good for Carson Wentz.

560
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Speaker 1: The frustrating thing with Kyler Murray is he could sit

561
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Speaker 1: on the couch, play video games for eighteen months, get

562
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Speaker 1: off the couch and walk on any athletic field and

563
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Speaker 1: he's the best athlete on the field. And I think

564
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Speaker 1: that's what right. But you think O'Connell might have a

565
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Speaker 1: chance or probably the best chance of bringing something special

566
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Speaker 1: out of Kyler Murray.

567
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Speaker 5: I hope so.

568
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Speaker 11: And you know to that, that's where Kyler Murray I

569
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Speaker 11: think has to up his game. Yeah, he's got to

570
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Speaker 11: up his game and hopefully he can learn that being

571
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Speaker 11: around with Carson Wentz, even a JJ McCarthy and seeing

572
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Speaker 11: how they approach it.

573
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Speaker 5: But yeah, so Connor is going to have a standard.

574
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Speaker 11: And it's always a little bit of a shock. People think, oh,

575
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 11: I was with a good offensive.

576
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 5: Coordinator and I did this, and I did that.

577
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Speaker 11: I know football, And then you get it with an O'Connell,

578
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 11: you know, a Shanahana McVeigh and Andy Reid, a Josh McDaniels.

579
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 5: Is like, holy shit, I don't know anything.

580
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Speaker 11: I mean, they're teaching me stuff that I never really

581
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 11: realized the nuance of that They're they're holding me to

582
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 11: a standard that I've been with some other good offensive coaches,

583
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 11: the standards not been like this, right, So there's going

584
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 11: to be a shock, you know, a shock there like

585
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 11: what Caleb Williams went through last year. What every play

586
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 11: I got to be perfect and remember all these rules.

587
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 11: I used to just drop back and go, I'm gonna

588
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Speaker 11: make it happen. Holy crap. So that that's where I think,

589
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 11: you know, the Kevin O'Connell experience kind of hits you

590
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Speaker 11: right in the face.

591
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Speaker 1: Holy shit, I have a coach. He's holding me account to.

592
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Speaker 11: Check and I can't just run out of the pocket

593
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Speaker 11: and play backyard football when I want.

594
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Speaker 5: He's going out, You're a idiot. There's people open, it's

595
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Speaker 5: there in the pocket.

596
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Speaker 11: There's an adjustment to that, and and the quarterback coaches

597
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Speaker 11: and the quarterback whispers really have that.

598
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Speaker 1: So how did the coach is like in terms of

599
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: this is interesting to me because Caleb Williams you mentioned,

600
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Speaker 1: of course, with Ben Johnson, O'Connell, now with Kyler Murray.

601
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Speaker 1: How did they gain those guys trust? Is it simply

602
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: by telling them to do things and then they go

603
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: out on the field and they do said things and

604
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Speaker 1: those things work.

605
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Speaker 8: And that's it.

606
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Trust is es fablished.

607
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 8: Yeah one.

608
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Speaker 11: Well, and they first they first start down that road

609
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Speaker 11: with showing them visual evidence of the plays working before,

610
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 11: right right, So you got to be a salesman. They

611
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 11: go in and they sell the play to the quarterback

612
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Speaker 11: and the offense first to go.

613
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Speaker 5: Hey, look look look at this play. Look at and

614
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: if you just do this and read this guy.

615
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 11: Right here, Hey look this is this is Joe Montana

616
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 11: and Jerry Rice in nineteen eighty nine.

617
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Speaker 5: Look at joy O bo you know, the players per

618
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Speaker 5: cup and go that's awesome.

619
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Speaker 11: And then you know, he shows another play ten years

620
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Speaker 11: later and goes, ok here sterling sharp, gone touchdown, same play,

621
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Speaker 11: and then it's okay. So it gets you excited to

622
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 11: do it, and then they go out in the field

623
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Speaker 11: a few times and you're like, damn every time he

624
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 11: calls that play and I just read that.

625
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 5: Key that he talks about.

626
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 11: Yeah shit, it's it's a good play, and everybody thinks

627
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 11: I'm awesome because yes, right, And.

628
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Speaker 5: That's where you get onto me.

629
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Speaker 11: You know, you hear me say sometimes like it's a

630
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 11: silver platter completion by Shanahan and Rigay, like you know,

631
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Speaker 11: I'm gonna get them wide open. If you can just

632
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 11: throw it over here, it's a play. Yeah, and yeah,

633
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 11: that's how it happens. And that's why you always hear

634
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 11: those guys leave those places and go, oh my gosh, their.

635
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: Genius, third genius, third genus.

636
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I love that shit.

637
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 5: Yea, yeah, that's so good.

638
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 11: Right.

639
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: They tell you months in advance, don't worry, it's gonna

640
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: be open. You get out on the field and holy shit,

641
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: it's over right.

642
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 11: He's just like, you know, he told me, and he

643
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 11: told me to like, watch this guy and if he

644
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 11: leans that way, it means it's this coverage. And if

645
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 11: he leans that way, it's that card. It's like he's

646
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 11: right every time. I'm a sad experience with Shanahan and

647
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 11: Tampa Bay. Really yeah, Tampa Bay when he was quality control,

648
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 11: we got into a game and he was starting to

649
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 11: get more and more confident with giving me little clues

650
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 11: on the sideline and things like that and speaking his mind,

651
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 11: and he kind of showed me something about the nickelback

652
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 11: one time, and he goes, listen, if he plays like

653
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 11: this again, I've been watching them all game.

654
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: It's quarters.

655
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Speaker 11: If he plays like this, it's Tampa two and I

656
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 11: remember I got out there and I was like, man,

657
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 11: I'm not sure what coverage it is.

658
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 5: And I looked over the nickel and I went, damn.

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Speaker 11: Kyle said, if he plays like this this quarters and man,

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Speaker 11: if he wasn't right like every freaking time, and you

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Speaker 11: know that's the kind of stuff he can do.

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Speaker 1: I love the deal for both teams. It's the rare

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Speaker 1: trade where I thought both teams did well. Jalen Wonnell

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Speaker 1: to the Broncos. Broncos inside a championship window, quarterback on

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Speaker 1: the rookie contract. They are going for it right now,

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Speaker 1: as they should, by the way, and the Dolphins are rebuilding.

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Speaker 11: Get a first and a third round pick for Waddell.

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Speaker 11: Great trade, great trade, great trade for both. You said

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Speaker 11: it right. The Denver Broncos have no needs. They have nothing.

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Speaker 11: That was their only need of their football team their

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Speaker 11: defensive set. They got an all star defense. They got

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Speaker 11: a good old line. They got two running backs they

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Speaker 11: like in RJ. Harvey and JK. Dobbins. The tight ends good.

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Speaker 11: They got second and third receivers. We talked about a lot.

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Speaker 5: During the year.

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Speaker 11: They're missing an offensive playmaker. And then you couple that

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Speaker 11: with Sean Payton his offense. We know he knows how

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Speaker 11: to get slot guys open, whether it was Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 11: back of the day or Michael Thomas who was a

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Speaker 11: bigger guy, but.

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Speaker 5: They still got him open over the middle of the

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Speaker 5: field all the time.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's where Jalen Wattle's gonna be able to take

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Speaker 11: pressure off the offense. It was a dire need for them.

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Speaker 11: So that's a big one. And then you know they

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Speaker 11: don't know what they're gonna get at the end of

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Speaker 11: the first round. If somebody like that at receiver position

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Speaker 11: is going to be available and play.

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Speaker 1: He ain't gonna be Wattle, right, and he ain't.

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Speaker 11: Gonna be Wattle, and he's not gonna be seasoned veteran

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Speaker 11: to where you go, wait, we're a super Bowl team,

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Speaker 11: but I don't know how much we can put on

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Speaker 11: this guy's plate as a rookie. So this is where

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Speaker 11: you do that. And then, like you said, Miami, yeah,

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Speaker 11: they're looking to the future. The only thing I think

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Speaker 11: with Miami is just go, damn, can we leave some

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Speaker 11: players for Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: So he can look good?

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Speaker 11: Yes, that was where it kind of surprised me that way,

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Speaker 11: But but you know, good for Miami to trim the

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Speaker 11: fat and start to hopefully build a young nucleus around

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Speaker 11: Malik Willis in the future.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is still there for now?

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Speaker 11: I mean yeah, I think he will be, because like this,

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Speaker 11: you're gonna have to do something crazy to get him.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Hafley's a defensive coach.

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Speaker 11: Bobby Slowick his Shanahan Kubiak, he wants to run the ball.

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Speaker 11: Mike McDaniel just had a chan Kubiak was with Mike

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Speaker 11: McDaniel before, so he knows he fits that off.

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Speaker 5: And he's making minimal money, so.

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Speaker 11: It's not like one where you're like, oh, that'll change

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Speaker 11: our whole salary cap situation.

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Speaker 5: I think he's making like five million dollars this year.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you'd have to blow them out of the water

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Speaker 11: to trade trade get him off their books.

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Speaker 5: I think all right.

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Speaker 1: PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock The Unbuttoned

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Speaker 1: podcast as well Football Night in America Sunday Night, Football

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Speaker 1: Won Football rolls around again. We've missed it so much. God,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we wanted to get through the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We did, and then a week later I missed football.

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Speaker 11: I'm hoping going to enjoy some basketball this weekend and

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Speaker 11: get going from there.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, we'll talk to you again, Sims. I

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Speaker 1: want to do this. I want to have you on

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Speaker 1: and talk about non football things.

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Speaker 8: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 4: Can we do that?

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Speaker 8: Can we?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll continue.

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Speaker 8: I want to talk about football.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about we can mix it together.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the fact that he can't find time to go to

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Speaker 1: the dentist.

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Speaker 11: That's what I want to I'm missing a tooths a

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Speaker 11: freaking too.

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Speaker 1: Tell mikeyyy how long you've been missing that too?

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Speaker 5: Since August? So I'm like, I gotta go. Yeah, i

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Speaker 5: gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Correlates with football season. You're the best, buddy. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to see you guys.

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Speaker 5: Be good.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Chris Simms for joining US earlier. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to Fred Hoiberg, the mayor for joining US. Nebraska winsday advance.

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Speaker 1: Duke right now tied up at sixty one with Siena.

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Speaker 1: Now they're up to. Can't do play by play on

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Speaker 1: the radio, but I'm doing it anyway.

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Speaker 6: Cameron Boozer, man, I don't know about him being a

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Speaker 6: top three pick. I'm just gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: Really. Yeah, I got three players I like better than

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Speaker 4: Cam Boozer.

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Speaker 8: Name them.

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Speaker 6: In no particular order, like aj out in BYU. I

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Speaker 6: just only like saying letters. I like Caleb Wilson North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: I'm not like Darren Peterson DP. I like Acuff two

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Speaker 6: out of Arkansas.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So Duke is up to. There's about four minutes to

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Speaker 1: go in this game. Sienna's gonna blow it.

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 5: They got no shot at winning.

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Speaker 1: They had no shot. It's over.

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Speaker 5: You already know it's over, right. I just wrote Duke

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Speaker 5: in my bracket to the next.

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Speaker 4: Round, and you're trying to jinx them.

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Speaker 1: Penn it's in pen Is he yeah, okay, my bractad

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Speaker 1: is it's perfect right now.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: His Collins.

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Speaker 6: He already filled out all the empty slots. You've only

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Speaker 6: filled out the games that have happened overdy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's get to Irish Sam. Here we have we

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Speaker 1: have the Bleacher Reports top one hundred NBA players of

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Speaker 1: all time from a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Top ten.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting. Yeah, go ahead, Irish Sam kind is down here.

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Speaker 5: There were two days after Saint Patrick's stay.

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Speaker 13: I feel like I've outstayed my welcome a little bit

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Speaker 13: on this show and in gentlemen, maybe.

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Speaker 4: Well ry what you look like? They'd be like, No,

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Speaker 4: this is perfect.

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Speaker 5: We're right, this d the ground.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, yes, yes, we will. I mean, of course

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Speaker 1: we will. Listen, do you Your character is what radio

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Speaker 1: is all about? Man, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 13: We've finally gotten to the top ten of this list

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Speaker 13: from last year. Oh the real meat of it all right,

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Speaker 13: let's start with number ten. He's still playing. One of

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Speaker 13: the greats of Golden State, Stephen Curry.

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Speaker 6: Oh big controversy, step Curry ahead of Kobe Bryant. Did

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Speaker 6: you imagine in twenty fifteen saying that Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: Will one day be ranked as a greater player than

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Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 1: Never but next year's list. We discussed this yesterday. Ban's

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Speaker 1: gonna be ahead of Kobe. How about that.

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Speaker 13: Number nine, number nine, the only man to ever score

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Speaker 13: one hundred allegedly in a game, Will Chamberlain, Yeah, no

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Speaker 13: one saw it.

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Speaker 6: Wrote a book, talked about how many women he slept

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Speaker 6: with that people doing math to see if that was

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Speaker 6: even possible.

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Speaker 1: If Will like five titles, he'd be the best player

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Speaker 1: of all time, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean the rules were different back then. He stole

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Speaker 6: buckets from teammates on offensive goaltending.

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Speaker 1: He talks about that number eight.

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Speaker 6: Number eight, the hick from French Lick Larry Bird, potentially

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Speaker 6: your grandfather.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that would be.

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Speaker 5: Find Boston Celtic.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna mention this because it's a it's a

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Speaker 6: callback to your interview with mc hammer yes back in

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Speaker 6: the day, which we played on this show. Yep, Iowa,

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Speaker 6: Sorry Irish. Sam's T shirt says, all right, stop Hannah time.

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Speaker 6: I don't really know what Hannah this is referencing, but

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Speaker 6: I love the shirt.

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Speaker 13: It's the great Hannah Stolky of the Iowahawkey is the

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Speaker 13: number two seed Iowah Hawkeyes.

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Speaker 6: I should have known, of course, we got a guy

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Speaker 6: with Sam back starting next week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can't look at him because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to look at him. I don't want to know what

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Speaker 1: he looks like.

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Speaker 5: I mean, where we where are we?

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Speaker 1: Number? I'm sorry about that. Larry Bird would be number

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Speaker 1: one if it was your last We know, all right, guy?

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Speaker 13: This man was an anchor Tim Duncan on those spurs. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: number seven so good.

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Speaker 6: Although you look at his career numbers, they don't jump

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Speaker 6: off the page. Nineteen points and ten point eight rebounds.

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Speaker 1: How many rings five that jumps off the page?

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Speaker 5: Can make an argument he's the most underrated player in

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Speaker 5: basketball history, no question about it. So too.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you could number six.

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Speaker 13: Pressing on, pressing on the great Country of Ireland takes

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Speaker 13: credit for this man.

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Speaker 5: He is Shaquille O'Neil at number six.

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Speaker 6: Shaquille O'Neil of the O'Neills. Some would say Tim Duncan was.

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Speaker 5: Better, the big Shamrock, the big I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know why I'm doing the Irish accident when Sam does

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Speaker 6: it better.

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Speaker 1: It's contagious, you say. Some would say I did say it.

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Speaker 1: And Shaquille o' he'll sent me a direct message. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna come down here and butch me.

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Speaker 4: In the face.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if Sam's okay with this, but apparently

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Speaker 6: Larry Birden not the best Celtic on the list.

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Speaker 4: Number five.

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Speaker 13: Wow, let's go to one of the all time greats,

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Speaker 13: Bill Russell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, eleven rings. If it was a ring contest,

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Speaker 4: he'd be on the top.

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Speaker 1: He would be on top. Yes, number five, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Number four? Excuse me?

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Speaker 13: Going number four? Yes, Irvin Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 6: Look, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I

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Speaker 6: think he's a little overrated. I think mad a little

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Speaker 6: more like nine or ten, not like three or four.

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Speaker 6: But I think we've been fixed to put him in

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Speaker 6: that top three or four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Have we got Jaylen Brunson yet?

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Speaker 1: No shocking?

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Speaker 5: All right? Have number three? Top three. Karareem Abdul Jabbar.

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Speaker 4: Wow, greatest laker of all time? Which is crazy because

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Speaker 4: maybe not when you watch Kareem highlights.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's mostly from the late eighties, so nobody really

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Speaker 6: knows how dominant and great he was when he was

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Speaker 6: in his prime.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 13: Number two, Irish Sam, alright, number two. He's still playing

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Speaker 13: his little gimpia times. So Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: Greatest laker of all time controversy.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's shocked, right, nobody's actually gonna put him at number

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Speaker 6: one on one of these sort of collaborative lists.

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Speaker 5: No, Nick Right probably would.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he should be five, maybe six, perhaps seven. I

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Speaker 1: can make an argument that Lebron's outside the top ten.

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Speaker 5: That's another segment. I can make an argument.

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Speaker 13: Do you even need to say, Ober one, we don't

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Speaker 13: have the time for that number one.

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Speaker 5: You guessed it.

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Speaker 6: Michael Jordan got a full thirty seconds left. Sam is

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Speaker 6: panicking losing his shirt over there. I'm trying to take

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Speaker 6: it down the west like we're gonna have a long

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Speaker 6: conversation about whether or not Michael Jordan should be number

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Speaker 6: one overall.

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Speaker 5: Come on, it's Michael versus Lebron all over again.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to retire Irish and get Iowa back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Duke is up four here against Siena. My day

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Speaker 1: is ruined. I mean, Duke's gonna advance. They're gonna wind

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Speaker 1: up covering that spread twenty and a half.

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Speaker 5: I think, so what