WEBVTT - After The Laughter 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.400 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Rexie 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.240 Wright Jr. And Alex Alonso on the Digital Soapbox Network 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.640 material witness on an aggregated battery. I was a hang 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.960 gun and they believe this might be in retaliation to 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:22.880 her testimony. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.640 welcome to another episode of The gang to Chronicles wherever 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.120 you may be listening to. My name is Alex Alonso 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:33.120 from Street Street Gangs, and I'm James mcdonal. And uh, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.360 we're missing our our third co host, Reggie Wright Jr. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.559 But hopefully we might get him on the show a 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.920 little bit later then yeah, he might be calling in. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.839 And I believe this is our episode forty two, so 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.839 let's just get right into it. James, I got a 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.959 couple of fact checks from a couple of episodes. Um 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.080 first one I want to talk about is we talked 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:58.160 about people going proper defending themselves and we mentioned, uh, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.400 this one guy from from Family Swan named Claimant Johnson. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:07.600 I looked him up and um in, he was charged 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:12.039 with the murder of Tyrone Mosley and he took that 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.959 to trial himself. He was his own legal counsel and 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.480 that case got thrown out. He didn't he wasn't found 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.880 not guilty, but he got found with almost just as 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.680 good as a not guilty verdict. He had deadlock jury, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.280 which means mistrial. They could retry it if they want, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.360 but for whatever reason, they chose not to retry it. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.560 And then later he got caught up in another case 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.520 and was sentenced to death in that's why they ain't 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.160 tried it. That's why they ain't that that's done. But 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.520 you know, he's this guy has been like probably one 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.119 of the best guys from the hood to defend himself 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.840 because even being sentenced to death, he appealed his case 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.280 and he got it appealed. So now, uh, in two 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.880 thousand twelve or thirteen, they pulled him out of San 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.360 Quentin prison brought him back to l A County jail 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.840 to be retried on the same trial that put him 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.760 on death throw. So now you know he's looking at 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.160 possibly either getting a lesser sentence or if he wins 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.760 the case, coming home. That's good, that's good. He probably 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:18.520 wanted the first that that I mean looking twice man, Well, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.560 I'd like to know if anyone out there knows any 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.800 dudes from l A, from any of these neighborhoods that 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.440 have represented themselves and was successful because um, you know, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.440 I'm sure he's not the only one that's ever done 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.840 it though, And you know it's the trip. I was 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:37.359 reading the transcript from his case and he testified on 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.120 his own behalf in that trial, so you know what 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.120 that The way he does it is you sit on 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.280 the stand right and you answer the question. Then you 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.400 get out of the stand and you stand there and 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.600 you ask yourself the question. Then you go back and 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.960 sit down and answer the question. So there's just back 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:58.440 and futh. It's kind of bizarre, like you you're you're 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.840 actually direct examining yourself during a trial. So he's not 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.400 looking at the death penalty no more. Well, at this point, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.720 they haven't decided because they gotta retrial, and right now 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.440 he've been sitting in the county jail since two thousand 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.799 and twelve thirteen. Whether or not he's gonna look at 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.639 these uh, well they're definitely gonna retrying. But whether they're 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.840 gonna pursue the death penalty or not, who knows. But 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.120 his next court date I looked at up. His next 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.120 court date is uh, next week and he's been in 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.240 the county jail now seven years. That would be interesting 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.480 to go to that. Yeah, I was. I was thinking 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.400 about checking it out when it does go to trial. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.840 But have you ever crossed paths with them that they 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.240 call him big evil from from family spawting. He's about 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:47.600 your age, man to to to to uh fight your 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.040 own case and get this far with it. I mean 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.960 he don't did it once. I hope he can do 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.720 it again. Well, I think he could be successful because 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.280 he's got time on his hands because this is an 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.520 old case and when she tried to retry an old 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.320 case from the nineties, you don't have the same witnesses. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:14.480 People's memories aren't the same, so it'll be yeah, all right. So, um, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.640 another fact check. We were talking about marijuana use with 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.479 Adam twenty two last week and he was saying that 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.800 maybe it's the reason why he can't get his girl pregnant. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:29.560 His girl is pregnant. Oh, she is pregnant. She is pregnant. Well, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.160 I looked up whether or not marijuana could have an 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.400 impact on a male sperm, and it actually absolutely has 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:41.160 an impact. Just about every health research, all the science 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:46.120 on marijuana and pregnancy says that it doesn't have a 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.520 negative impact on your ability to get a woman pregnant. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.040 There's actually one study that says that marijuana could alter 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.280 the genetic profile of male sperm. You probably do. I 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.240 ain't got a word about that. I don't smoke weed, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.000 and I ain't trying to annimal kids. But imagine all 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.880 the people out there that are impregnating women while they 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.440 hide as a kite on multiple blunts. It's it's impacting. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.200 That's been from the beginning of the town. Nobody, I 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.200 don't something. What about alcohol? Alcohol? Do alcohol? Oh, we 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.520 absolutely know that alcohol has an impact. They got a 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.600 thing called a fetal alcohol syndrome. You know, Well, it 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:28.440 impacts women that drink while they're pregnant. That's obvious. Um, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.640 But I don't know if you're asking, does alcohol have 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.200 an impact on the male sperm exactly? Well, that's a 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.000 great question, um, But definitely marijuana does. A couple of 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.800 my kids was born a boy, some some some hennessy 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.279 and why she gets you right? Well, I saw an 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.720 old picture of my mom when she was about two 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.200 or three months pregnant with me, and she had a 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:53.480 cigarette in her hand. Everything is so different from back 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.599 then to now. The pollution and everything, folks, So you 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.440 never know what what stopped you from having kids. The 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.039 water we're drinking now, and so you never know. Well, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.000 if you're trying to get your girl pregnant and you haven't, 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.719 you haven't had any success out there, and um, you 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.599 smoke a lot of weed. You might want to do 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.720 some research and rethink that if you're trying to get 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.600 your girl pregnant. And uh, the last thing I wanted 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:26.360 to mention is the proliferation of skate parks in South 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.760 l A. Now. I know when I was young and 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.200 probably um, I don't know if you ever paid attention 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.719 to this, but there were no places from kids skateboard, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.880 not at all. And you know, I just did a 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.039 quick search and there are at least a half a 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.880 dozen parks in Los Angeles south of Los Angeles, in 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.239 the hood where brothers an sistors can grab their board 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.479 and go to the skate park. And there's actually a 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.040 skateboard park in Compton over at uh Wilson Park. You 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.640 ever played at Wilson Park when you was a kid. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:59.720 Never It's a little park though, it's a tiny little park. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.640 But that's on the other side of rosecrans. Never ever, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.280 never ever thought about picking up a skateboarding going skateing, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.960 skateboarding and and doing tricks and all that other ship. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.560 What about just going to Wilson Park. No, but you 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.920 guys had looters, looters had everything. When every kid the gym, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.320 I mean, you're going to gym and you know, that's 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.800 when everybody was acting about they were playing basketball and 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.920 all that. But other than that, no, no, all right. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.840 There's also an amazing skate park at Gilbert Lindsay Park 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.840 that's the home of the fur trade against the crips. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:38.400 And there's um, there's another one at Jim Gilliam which 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.320 is uh the home of the Black Pea Stones. And 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.440 there's just there's just quite a few skate parks all 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.600 over South l A. Which I think is a great thing, man, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.800 I mean a great thing. They had a park there 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.400 or a great thing, a great thing for the kids 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.760 to go and skate. I think it's a great place 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.560 for the kids to go on skate because in order 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.000 to get good at skateboarding, in order to turn pro, 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.240 you gotta learn how to do those tricks, and those 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.840 skate parks make it easier because they got the rails, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.120 they got the ramps, they got all of the things 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.320 where kids can practice tricks, where in the seventies and 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.240 eighties it was only white kids that were able to 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.720 do all those tricks. But look at the area where 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.720 these skateboard parks is. Is these kids actually going out there? 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.880 I know I passed by one in Long Beach, um 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.920 is over there? I think, what is that ocean uh 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:32.320 right where i'd go fishing all to the right. Um, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.319 I see a lot of kids at that park with 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.440 their skateboards. But I don't, I don't. I don't think 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.280 it's too many kids going to the to the parks 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.760 in the neighborhood on the skateboards. Well, I guess each 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.520 neighborhood is different. I know the one that uh at 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.120 U Ranchos Rancho Santega Park over there by the Jungles. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.160 Every time I go over there with my two sons, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.880 is at least four or five kids in there? Um 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.600 four's I know. I mean I don't go there all 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.120 the time. Gilbert Lindsay Park. Um. I've done a few 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.480 interviews there with some four trays, and it really kind 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.600 of messed up my interviews because I got these guys 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.199 on camera. I got a mike and you just hear 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.120 kids in the background skating in the middle of the interview. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.840 Um so no, I think they're getting used. I mean, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.160 it's just like anything else. It's not you know, you 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.840 got a basketball court in the skate park you go to, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.439 you see you might see three or four kids on 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.960 the basketball court at any given day, you know. But 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:34.079 it's it's allowing people of color to get good at 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.960 a sport that they were never able to get good 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.720 at before. And there was a couple of brothers from 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.600 there was a guy from Long Beach that end up 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.079 having a reality show. Um and he had he turned 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.280 pro and there's all these kids. If you watch X Games, now, 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.360 X Games is not just dominated by white folks. You 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:58.360 got people of black and browns. And oh yeah, that's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.920 that's like not our generation. But if you had I 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.400 bet you one of your grandkids, you know, when he 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.480 comes with age, you put a skateboard. Well, you get 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.880 him a skateboard, he's gonna he's gonna want to use it. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.599 He pushing the skateboard now, but I'm scarting riding the 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.839 damn thing. Oh come on, man, you gotta let them, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.679 you know, do what they do. One thing about skateboarding, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.640 you gotta be fearless. You can't be you know, timid. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.240 You can't be hesitant or reluctant. You gotta just go 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.679 out there and just do it. That's the same thing 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:33.400 with a bike of motorcycle. All these toys they got 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.520 them scooters that they got the motors on them. Now, man, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.319 these kids running and the ship kids taking that ship 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.559 from you. You're getting beat up over it. All kind 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.640 of ship is going down. But I ain't never been 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.120 in the skateboard man, It's not my cup of tea, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.320 all right. On a previous episode, we talked about we 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.160 talked about Lee Baca, the sheriff that got charged with 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.520 all those other deputies for hiding an inmate in the 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.240 l A County jail because he was exposing abuse is 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.640 and everybody was found guilty or pled guilty. He the 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:09.400 only one that tried to fight his appeal, and he 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.280 took it all the way to the United States Supreme Court, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.320 and they told him get out of here. Man with 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.559 this appeal, don't do your time. He was found guilty. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.679 They didn't even want to listen to the case. How 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.800 much time did he get that, gave him three years, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.800 and he's got to turn himself in either the end 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.560 of this month at the beginning of next month. And 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.120 but he let me ask you this, James, he's in 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.880 his seventies. He's now saying he's suffering from Alzheimer's disease. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.840 Should should he get a pass or just like any 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.120 other person almost eight years old? Should he do his time? 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.800 When you're he was ninety, he did the crime, you 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.120 should do the time. He wasn't worried about none of 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.360 his health problems when he was doing what he was doing. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.240 So hell no, you just like us at that point 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.960 when when you committed crime, especially anybody of authority, you're 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.959 a police officer, you committed crime, you should be and 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.439 treated just like me. That don't make you better than 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.880 me because you are getting lesser sentenced because you was 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.199 a police officer. That should be worship You know what 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.800 I'm saying. I think three years is actually like a 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.320 slap on the wrist for for what he was doing. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.800 I mean that is like large scale corruption, hiding inmates 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.200 from the system that the federal government we're trying to 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.320 they were trying to communicate with kidnapping. That's basically kidnapping. Yeah, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.000 they're gonna give us five for kidnapping, that's basically kidnapping. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.319 And then plus, really, what kind of pisces me off 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.720 about the whole thing is eighteen of the deputies went 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.959 to prison, and most of those deputies got more time 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.040 than three years. Some of them got eight, some got five, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.280 some got six. But you got the ringleader of the 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.800 whole thing, he only get three, he gets three, he 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.280 only gets three. But I remember Reggie said something, he said, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.520 Lee Bak is not really the head of the l 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.280 A County sheriff Department. He said his underboss, which was 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.280 a Japanese guy named Paul Tanaka. He said, Paul Tanaka 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.440 was running the Sheriff's not not Lie Baka. But you 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.080 know Paul Tanaka went to prison too. So I think 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.880 it doesn't matter. You're the head, you're the leader. How 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.520 do the people that did what you told him to 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.320 do get more time than you get? But that's just 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.040 the system, man. I think he should have got the 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.920 most time because he didn't want planning and putting the 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.360 ship out there like that. He should have he should 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.440 have gotten more than three years. But because of his age. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:35.160 They slapped him moment Ridge. He's seventy seven years old. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.920 James don't matter. Yeah, don't matter. And it's kind of 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.520 disappointment because I actually met this guy a few times. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.680 I actually interviewed him. I never posted it, and he 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.719 really seemed like a dude that cared about the community. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.920 He understood that there was over policing of gangs, he 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.240 understood that gangs aren't as bad as what what other 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.120 cops make him out to be. And then he it's 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.719 caught up in this scandal. So I believe why I 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.560 listen to him that I was just disappointed because most 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.240 cops don't take that position. I mean, he would publicly 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.040 say things that you're like, Yeah, it's nothing wrong with 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.000 the police officer getting up there and saying a lot 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.320 of ship, but is he living by that? Is that? 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.800 I mean, that's just conversation. Then he turned up a 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.600 year later killing people. We didn't find out he didn't 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.360 killed three people. Not saying him, but I'm just saying, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.400 they just got a different agenda. And if they can 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.640 get away with just say things, if I was a 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.720 police officer, if I'm a police officer and I got 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.400 found guilty, of a crime. I should be treated worser 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.160 than a streetcat. And the reason why I say that 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.040 because you are here to serve and protect me. But 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.640 then you out here and now you've caught a case 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.280 I would have to prove. I would use them as examples. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.920 How can you go to just say, going to the military, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.560 you come on and kill somebody, they're gon tell you 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.840 you're distrace to the to the flag. You're you, you're distrace. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.880 They are distraction to their badge. And if they got 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.760 found guilty, they should be thrown under something. Yeah, definitely 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.560 three more years. But I honestly we're just saying that, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.960 like they swore an oath to to be to protect 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.200 and I didn't. I didn't. I'm just out there doing 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.880 what I do. You know, we out there hurting people, 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.880 we out there doing wrong, We get caught, we go 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.240 to jail. We're in jail. They give you forty years 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:36.280 for one body, a police officer gets five years, or 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:41.680 get set free for that body. That's like crazy, that's cold, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:46.400 that's wrong. Yeah, this this um lie baka situation stems 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.680 from a two thousand and eleven investigation. I can't believe 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.600 here we are nine years later and uh it's finally 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:59.720 finally finished. Uh. Ten other sheriff deputies have already went 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.880 to prison. Half of them have already been released. That's 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.040 how long this case has been dragging through the court system. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.160 Lee Baca's got to do us three years. Paul Tanaka 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.040 should be getting out soon. He turned himself in to 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.040 do his I think four or five years, a couple 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.400 of years ago. Um, so he probably would have been 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:22.040 better off just turn himself in because he'd becoming home already. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.200 So do they lose their pension and all that ship? Nah, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.320 Unfortunately a lot of these cops are able to keep 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.640 all of their their pension, all of their benefits. It's 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.120 got to be something like super you know, a convission. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.720 Convission is a conviction, Guilty is guilty, prison is prison. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:46.400 You're locked up. Why should you get paid and keep 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.960 that money? You could have been a dirty, dirty cap 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.360 for the longest and just got caught on this. I 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.360 think we mentioned that, And what did Reggie say? Like 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:57.080 he was completely against taking away any benefits. And I 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.920 argued with Reggie right now in today on that one. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.760 I give it to him? Why I give it to him? Well, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:09.520 I agree, I agree that something that the punishment should 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.800 include some of the benefits that you have as a 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.000 as a deputy, because you shouldn't have no been a pitch. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.280 You don't. You don't spoil the badge. You didn't, you 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:23.160 didn't commit you I did committing crimes? Why your ship going? 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.119 So what? Why do? Why? Why should he deserve it? 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.960 That's wrong? Yes, Well, well they're gonna say that this 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.919 guy has been on the force. I've been I've been 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.119 in the hood over thirty some years, and when I 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.840 go to jail, or any man on the street go 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.840 to jail, he stripped of everything. He stripped of everything. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.480 So what makes them different. I think he's got to 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.440 like commit murder or something in order to lose. Well, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.879 if if I should have been a cop, then I 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.000 should have been a cop because I'd have been doing 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.840 everything I can do. Plus they're able to get money 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:04.080 from the Police Office Association to defend themselves. I feel 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.879 about that. That's that's sad. Well, well, here's the thing. Technically, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.679 you're innocent until proven guilty, so you're gonna get the 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.160 benefit of the doubt from the officers association to get 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.119 the money for your defense. If you're a good copy. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.320 You should never even have to worry about being on 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.040 the other side of the law. You aren't. You're supposed 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.639 to be on the right side of law. That's what 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.280 you signed up for. You should never have to cross 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:34.200 defence across that line to be uh on trial. Once 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.240 you committed that crime, all vessels off. Everything is over 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.960 close the folder. And if you get found out guilty, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.200 then that might be something different. You get your pension back, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.240 you should start going, you get your job back. No, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.760 if you get found guilty and go to prison, you 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.280 can sit in prison and your pension just keep coming. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.760 Your money is still coming. Yeah, that then you're not guilty. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.520 That's double standard. O. J. Simpton. Simpson got found not 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.760 guilty of murder, but then they go over here in 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.440 this court and take everything he had. That's double jeopardy. Man. 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.560 Well they did it in a civil court, but it 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.080 still don't matter. Civil whatever, it don't matter. It's double jeopardy. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.520 But it only applies to those who they wanted to 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:27.240 apply to. Well, they're gonna say it's not double jeopardy 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.240 because he wasn't found guilty of any murder. He was 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:36.439 found uh ressivilly responsible for the death which is different 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.320 from me. How can't they be found? And this is 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.720 what everybody keeps saying, How then are you gonna be found, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.280 uh anything? Of the death. And he got found not 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.720 guilty for killing him, That means he ain't there, he 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.240 ain't the one who did it. Not guilty is I'm innocent? 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.040 So how can you send me the civil court and 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.919 I lose? And and here you're gonna tell me I 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.639 killed him, but over here I didn't. Well, So what 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.879 you're saying is if if you went in criminal court, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.240 that should be the end of it. That should be it. Yeah, 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.639 how can you come back and say I'm responsible for murdered. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.959 I got found not guilty on that I that I 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.280 had my hand and something to do with these two 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.960 people getting killed? You know, because I think in the 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.720 criminal court, when you when you found not guilty, that 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.080 doesn't necessarily mean you didn't do it. Why not I 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.840 got found not guilty. I got twelve people in this 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.920 in that box to say he didn't do it. Well, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.400 what I'm saying is that is that rich Alright, people 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.640 out there, we just gotta we just gotta call from 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:42.320 from Reggie Wright Jr. Calling from at Water right. Yeah, 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.119 what's your brother? How you doing. You're gonna have to 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.320 talk a little bit louder so we can hear you. Okay. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.320 I gotta some people around, so I don't want to 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.200 be talking to That's what's going on with y'all. What's 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.520 up with Alison James? Happy New Year to you. I 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.680 haven't talked to you on the wild Man. I haven't 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.320 talked to you, officer, and so I think you said 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.520 take six nine, we're gonna get no time when I 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.040 kept telling you he's gonna get some time. Yeah, Well 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.479 two years ain't nothing compared to what he was looking at. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.159 Takashi six nine is gonna get out of prison in 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.280 a few months, boy, will you be? He got sent 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.240 this already got sent twenty four months, okay, twenty four 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:24.239 months with with already fifteen sixteen months time served, so 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:28.280 that leaves him about five or six months. He and 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.760 I should be touching streets at the same time. You'll 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.000 probably getting out August. I'll be getting out from time 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.000 in September. Well, I'll be going through a halfway off 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:42.480 in September. Well, I calculated July will be his sir, 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.639 So he might beat you. He might beat you. He 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.680 might beat you home rich. So what wa wait, I'm 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.919 gonna asking, No, what was your what was your reaction 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.679 when you heard that he only got twenty four months? No, 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.639 I was surprised of that though. Surprise, but let's call 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.800 That's how I said. Let's all you're up until that day. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.280 We're saying he wasn't gonna get u. He will be 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:09.440 getting released on in December, but that this will show 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.440 you the only reason we had talked about it because 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.760 I was just trying to think, show people how you 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:16.920 can make whatever deal you want with your attorney and 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.320 all of that. They're steal up to the federal judges, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:20.879