1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: From Futro Media and pr X. It's Latino USA. I'm 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Marieojosa Today. The band Making Movies, Making Movies is a 3 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: band based out of Kansas City, Missouri that mixes rock 4 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: with tropical Latin music. Like SISA the US, The group 5 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: is based in Kansas City, but its members have roots 6 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: in Panama and Mexico. Their sophomore album, I Am Another 7 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Youth features a fusion of electric guitar, mambo rhythms, and 8 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: operatic vocals, and the album reached the ears of iconic 9 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Panamanian musician Ruben Blade, which is by the way the 10 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: way he pronounces his name, and this led to Ruben 11 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Blades giving them a shout out at the twenty seventeen 12 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Latin Grammys. 13 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm Making Movies. 14 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Spinning out and they recently collaborated with Ruben Blades to 15 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: put out a song called Noe Kays. We spoke with 16 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: the band in twenty nineteen and we're happy to bring 17 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: them back to you today. Listen as members Enrique Chi 18 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: and Juan Carlos Chao Dan talk about one of the 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: band's most ambitious tracks on their album I'm Another You. 20 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: The song is called Lo Gura Collectiva. 21 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: My name is Wan Carlos Chao Dan and I played 22 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: percussion and keyboards for Making Movies. 23 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: My name is Enrique Chi and I am the guitar 24 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: player and singer of the band and also the songwriter. 25 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: I was born in Santiagopanama, and I fell in love 26 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: with rock and roll music first. And I really rejected 27 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: Latin music as a little kid because I wanted to 28 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: play the guitar like my dad. After like becoming an 29 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: adult and realizing I'm an immigrant in the United States, 30 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: the longing to reconnect to the Latina roots became. 31 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: Bigger and bigger every year. 32 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: So he collected a bunch of vinyls and that was 33 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: my introduction to music. 34 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: He had all these dire straits albums and one of 35 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: them is called Making. 36 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: Movies, and I thought, well, that would actually be kind 37 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: of a cool band name. 38 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: I love Struggle Romeo seeing the streets of Sereni. 39 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: It harkens back to the time period of loving rock 40 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: and roll before I spoke English. 41 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: Love so that he made. 42 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: Music can communicate even through a language barrier. Album is 43 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 4: called I Am Another You. 44 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: The name of this track is. 45 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: My grandma and I were watching the news and she's 46 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: this kind of like very protesting poetic woman, and my 47 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 4: grandma goes, which means collective insanity. 48 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, there's a song and that. 49 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: I think it always brings into the ideas and the blueprint, 50 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: I guess you could say. And we just start to 51 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: structure it little by little. 52 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: And I actually had this riff lying around that I 53 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: thought could marry to that, and the riff I don't 54 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: know if you know this, but I. 55 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Stole the riff from you. 56 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: You've been playing on a piano. Montuno is like it's 57 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: the part of the piano break in a SASA song. 58 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: It gets everybody to get up and dance. And then 59 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: I changed the key and I moved it to more 60 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: guitar friendly places, and I simplified it down to like 61 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: damn day damp damn to make it like if if 62 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: led zep One had played your piano part. 63 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Or something, and so hearing a little bit of the 64 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: mon it kind of already took me to more of 65 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: like a mumbo rhythm and we ran with it. 66 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: Our band doesn't have a horn section, and a lot 67 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: of Latin music, the high energy moments come from a 68 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 4: horn riff. I think of Willie Colan's like many of 69 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 4: his signature horn riffs that intro songs. 70 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: So to do that on the guitar, you. 71 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: Kind of need to run it through a bunch of 72 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: crazy effects, like the fuzz that Keith Rich's on Satisfaction. 73 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: That fuzz sound was advertised in the sixties is like, 74 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: make your guitar sound like a horn. It kind of 75 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 4: pictured the story in my head once I knew what 76 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 4: I wanted to say. The lyrics did all come together 77 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: in one sitting. Something has happened and the world has 78 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: come to an end, and so what would you feel like? 79 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: And then you run into an old man, You say, 80 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 4: what do you think now we have a few moments 81 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: left to live? The old man despised. I just kept 82 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: praying that nothing would ever change. And to me, that's 83 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: like the human fear of change is inevitable, but yet 84 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: people feared. 85 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: The song goes into outer space. 86 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: The same and that's when the story says, well, God, 87 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: what do you think of that? What do you think 88 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: seeing us like this, you know, at war with each other, 89 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 4: at the end of our road as human beings. 90 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: That does sound kind of like the end of the world. 91 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: By the time you get to the outrail. 92 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: So that rhythm that we go towards the end that 93 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: we break into, I just heard it automatically. It was 94 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: just like, I think we should add some about that rhythms. 95 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: I don't think my kungas are just enough for it. 96 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: About that, you can't one person can't properly play it. 97 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: It has to be a group. 98 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: With three different people. And it's a very Yoduba centric 99 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: which is the santaria rhythms in Kuba. 100 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: And those rhythms technically you're not really supposed to mess 101 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: with them unless you are initiated in the religion. 102 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: So for us it was a learning curve for me especially, 103 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: and it was one of those inspiring and it was 104 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: a moving moment in the song. 105 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 4: So we're going back towards the root of all Latino 106 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: music and all even American music. 107 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: But this record had a. 108 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: Bunch of challenges before we were able to put it 109 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: into the world. We made it four years ago. We 110 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: would hire and fire people and then like files kept 111 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: getting lost. Then we finish it and we're waiting sitting 112 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: on it to be mastered in our record label that 113 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: we'd signed to seem to have lost interest. There was 114 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: a considerable time where I thought we had messed with 115 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: the wrong juju. 116 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: We cursed ourselves, Yeah. 117 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: By you playing the bata and not being initiated to 118 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: Santa Rie, or maybe by me cursing God for the 119 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: state of mankind. Maybe I was accidentally whipped up a 120 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: curse or you whipped up a curse upon our record. 121 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: For a while I was worried, and this song was 122 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: probably the cool print. We've made it through now and 123 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: we seem to be all right. 124 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: That was Enrique Chi and Juan Carlos Chagan from Making Movies. 125 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: And just before we go, dear listener, a special treat 126 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: for you. The members of Making Movies stop by the 127 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: Latino USA offices and played a live session of one 128 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: of their songs, Spinning Out. So we leave you with 129 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: the band Making Movies playing live in our offices. 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